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Sharc
15th July 2017, 23:21
...or perhaps by a right-click on the VID_0000... stream in the Stream tab (similar to Preview / Blank this Item ....), for example "Set as Extra".

Lathe
16th July 2017, 01:52
...or perhaps by a right-click on the VID_0000... stream in the Stream tab (similar to Preview / Blank this Item ....), for example "Set as Extra".

Hey, not bad Sharc! You know... it doesn't happen very often, but now and then you really come up with a great idea! :)

MrVideo
16th July 2017, 02:22
Usually I externally convert DD+ to DTS
What do you hope to gain by doing that?

MrVideo
16th July 2017, 02:42
Instead of dcaenc, why not the better replacement: ffdcaenc (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=172694)

Sharc
16th July 2017, 11:09
There's really no definitive way for BD-RB to definitively identify which is the feature when there are multiple large playlists. It just makes an educated guess.

I see. And when in doubt which one is the true Feature BD-RB decides to encode both like a Feature (which makes sense in probably most cases).

jdobbs
16th July 2017, 14:17
I see. And when in doubt which one is the true Feature BD-RB decides to encode both like a Feature (which makes sense in probably most cases).Yes. It uses several checks to make the determination. One is that it assumes anything larger than 5 billion bytes is a feature. I used that number after comparing several "series" BDs. But, of course, it can't always be right.

jdobbs
16th July 2017, 14:18
...or perhaps by a right-click on the VID_0000... stream in the Stream tab (similar to Preview / Blank this Item ....), for example "Set as Extra".Yeah, that would be a good way to do it.

jdobbs
16th July 2017, 14:20
Secondly: Since v0.50.24 the .log is no longer written (or updated) to the HD. Is there as setting for this which I missed? I tested it on my system and it is working correctly. Not sure why it would be different on yours. Do you have BD-RB installed in "Program Files" or "Program Files (x86)" perhaps? If you do it's possible that Windows is virtualizing and writing the output to another location. It started doing that with Windows Vista, I believe.

[Edit] But... that could only happen if your Working Folder were there too... which is not very likely. So I really have no idea why it isn't working on yours.

Sharc
16th July 2017, 15:14
I tested it on my system and it is working correctly. Not sure why it would be different on yours. Do you have BD-RB installed in "Program Files" or "Program Files (x86)" perhaps? If you do it's possible that Windows is virtualizing and writing the output to another location. It started doing that with Windows Vista, I believe.

[Edit] But... that could only happen if your Working Folder were there too... which is not very likely. So I really have no idea why it isn't working on yours.
Thanks for checking. Nothing of above applies for my installation, weird. I tried to trace the case back and I suspect now that it came with a Win10 update or with another program installation. I'll wait for the next OS update to see whether it will revert to normal behaviour.

bryrabknowles
16th July 2017, 16:54
What do you hope to gain by doing that?

Slightly better audio quality than 640kbps ac3 that maintains backwards compatibility with SPDIF.

gonca
16th July 2017, 17:21
@Sharc
Do you, by chancs, have Verbose Status Reporting checked under Settings?

Sharc
16th July 2017, 18:32
@Sharc
Do you, by chancs, have Verbose Status Reporting checked under Settings?
Oh yes! That's a change which I made recently only. I didn't think that it disables the logging to the HD. Thanks!

jdobbs
16th July 2017, 19:01
Slightly better audio quality than 640kbps ac3 that maintains backwards compatibility with SPDIF.That's debatable... especially since double-blind tests have proven 640Kbs AC3 to be indistinguishable from lossless (to human beings).

jdobbs
16th July 2017, 19:05
Oh yes! That's a change which I made recently only. I didn't think that it disables the logging to the HD. Thanks!I doesn't stop from writing to HD, but it does reduce the number of things written.

But... there is an option under the FILE menu called "Status Logging On". Make sure that is checked. I'd forgotten I even had that there. :o

Sharc
16th July 2017, 19:57
But... there is an option under the FILE menu called "Status Logging On". Make sure that is checked. I'd forgotten I even had that there. :o
Oh I missed that option. It got probably reset when I installed v0.50.24 from scratch. All ok now. Thanks!

jdobbs
16th July 2017, 20:19
Oh I missed that option. It got probably reset when I installed v0.50.24 from scratch. All ok now. Thanks!It defaults to on. I'm guessing it just accidentally got reset at some point.

bryrabknowles
16th July 2017, 20:56
I don't think I ever explained my other question very well.

BDRB stops Multiprocessing from being used on smaller files during a Full Disc Reencode.

When using Multiprocessing, I find that I get better results if I lower the number of threads used. For Multiprocess=12, I set Threads=1.

This works great for the main feature.

The problem I run into is when BDRB processes the smaller files on the disc that default back to only 1 process, the program still uses Threads=1. I was hoping you might include a fix for this in hidden options so that BDRB knows to use a different number of threads for those files.

For Multiprocess=0, the program would use the number of threads defined in Threads=y
For Multiprocess=x>0, the program would use the number of threads defined in Threads_MP=y

Am I the only one with this issue... seems to keep getting lost in the thread.

Lathe
16th July 2017, 23:42
@Sharc
Do you, by chancs, have Verbose Status Reporting checked under Settings?

Ah, yet again, Gonca dazzles us with his keen insight. Take note fellow Dobbsies, it's kind of like a full solar eclipse... You may only see this once in your lifetime...

gonca
17th July 2017, 01:06
@Lathe
First it a small g
Second, please accept this in the spirit it was meant,

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6cbb/qpcja15zbq59vr94g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/qpcja15zbq59vr9/ddba2303e981a96dc0c79ba8fc320af5.jpg)

Lathe
17th July 2017, 01:36
@Lathe
First it a small g
Second, please accept this in the spirit it was meant,

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6cbb/qpcja15zbq59vr94g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/qpcja15zbq59vr9/ddba2303e981a96dc0c79ba8fc320af5.jpg)

WOW, that is quite a face! http://lathe-of-heaven.com/yes.gif

small 'g' huh...? Oooooh, aren't we humble... small 'g'.... No capital pretensions from me, oh no... Just a lowly, I'm your humble servant, 'I don't need a capital' gonca...

:D

gonca
17th July 2017, 02:01
Lathe, you really need to get out more :rolleyes:

Lathe
17th July 2017, 02:49
Lathe, you really need to get out more :rolleyes:

Don't change the subject little 'g'... :cool:

And, YES, I do indeed need to get out more... :rolleyes:

MrVideo
17th July 2017, 21:41
Slightly better audio quality than 640kbps ac3 that maintains backwards compatibility with SPDIF.
As jdobbs says, doubtful. Especially when feeding it an EAC3 file. You can't get something better from such a source. You'll never hear the difference.

Lathe
18th July 2017, 02:47
WOW! I had taken the Xtras from 'GHOST IN THE SHELL' and created a playable BD5. But, my older OPPO sometimes doesn't like some of the newer Java or something in some of the newer menus (I remember reading SOMETHING about it, but I can't remember precisely what it was) and it just showed 'Wrong disc' as it has a number of times before.

So, I don't normally do this, but I then imported that BD folder and rendered it with a quick play menu. Now the WOW part :) I was stunned when I went to play the disc and all of the sudden the entire background was full of these awesome graphics and sound. NEVER saw that before. Apparently, BDRB recognized and took the original discs background imagery and sound and used it here. WOW, did that look frigg'n AWESOME! Very impressive JD! I guess I just had never had opportunity to use this aspect of BDRB, but I had to come here and say how amazing that looked! Bloody awesome feature man, thanks for that! :D

jdobbs
18th July 2017, 05:04
WOW! I had taken the Xtras from 'GHOST IN THE SHELL' and created a playable BD5. But, my older OPPO sometimes doesn't like some of the newer Java or something in some of the newer menus (I remember reading SOMETHING about it, but I can't remember precisely what it was) and it just showed 'Wrong disc' as it has a number of times before.

So, I don't normally do this, but I then imported that BD folder and rendered it with a quick play menu. Now the WOW part :) I was stunned when I went to play the disc and all of the sudden the entire background was full of these awesome graphics and sound. NEVER saw that before. Apparently, BDRB recognized and took the original discs background imagery and sound and used it here. WOW, did that look frigg'n AWESOME! Very impressive JD! I guess I just had never had opportunity to use this aspect of BDRB, but I had to come here and say how amazing that looked! Bloody awesome feature man, thanks for that! :D
Glad you got some use out of it. I put a lot of work into that reauthoring code. Thanks for the kind words.

Lathe
18th July 2017, 05:59
Glad you got some use out of it. I put a lot of work into that restoring code. Thanks for the kind words.

Absolutely! Normally, if there are just a few Xtras, I would just import them into BDRB and let it create it's default, static menu. But, sometimes with more visually oriented films, it might be nice to keep the menus, especially if there are numerous Xtras. BUT... like I mentioned, the older OPPO players sometimes choke on the newer menus if they've been backed up. Something about 'something' timing out, I don't remember... But, what is nice now that I've seen how BDRB can retain the original menu visuals and sound, simply importing the already BDRB created Xtras disc with menus, entering the title names of the Xtras, and THEN burning it, yields REALLY nice results!

I remember discussion here about how BDRB could use the existing menu backgrounds, but I had NO idea that it would come out so amazingly. So, after this, I will plan on doing that every time :)

I will try to attach a link if you wanna see how the background looks and sounds. You can imagine since this was my very first time seeing BDRB do this, I was quite blown away!

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/gitsmenu.mkv (it IS about 50 megs, sorry... it took me about 20 seconds to DL)

bbcby
18th July 2017, 11:05
Help please.
Target BD size: BD-25
Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
Why BD Rebuilder force reencode DTS-HD 2.0 to AC3?

mparade
18th July 2017, 17:55
@jdobbs

In case of an alternate output (if I remember correctly you told you might add such a feature to BD-RB) is it possible to use unique parameters without any restrictions that are added automatically to the commandline? My playback device is a HTPC, so there would be no need for any restrictions to be able to play back alternate outputs without any playback issues.

I just would like to determine the preset, the profile, the tune and some other parameters by myself in the command line using the tweak option. If I remember correctly, in the previous releases some restrictions were added automatically to the commandline. Is it possible to disable them with a hidden switch and add my own parameters?

Thank you very much for your help.

bryrabknowles
18th July 2017, 22:00
Rather than use Quick Encode for Extras, is there any way to set BDRB to encode extras in SD?

Sharc
19th July 2017, 13:42
@jdobbs

In case of an alternate output (if I remember correctly you told you might add such a feature to BD-RB) is it possible to use unique parameters without any restrictions that are added automatically to the commandline? My playback device is a HTPC, so there would be no need for any restrictions to be able to play back alternate outputs without any playback issues.

I just would like to determine the preset, the profile, the tune and some other parameters by myself in the command line using the tweak option. If I remember correctly, in the previous releases some restrictions were added automatically to the commandline. Is it possible to disable them with a hidden switch and add my own parameters?

Thank you very much for your help.

From the hiddenopts.txt:
ALTERNATE_BLURAY=n n = 0/1 Default "1", if set to "0" --bluray-compat setting not used for ALTERNATE encodes

removes the blu-ray restrictions.

mparade
19th July 2017, 16:55
From the hiddenopts.txt:

removes the blu-ray restrictions.

Thank you very much for your reply.

That one is a great feature, however it only removes the --bluray compat parameter from the command line and allow for other restrictions to apply. But it is not a big deal, because I can overwrite them using the tweak parameter, I just would have liked to know if there is a switch for it already.

worknstiff
20th July 2017, 17:54
Just putting this question out there, probably just my system, has anyone done Kong 3d and had any issues with stuttering, flickering or flashing of the image after an encode?

CraigWally
20th July 2017, 20:19
Just putting this question out there, probably just my system, has anyone done Kong 3d and had any issues with stuttering, flickering or flashing of the image after an encode?

Yes, I have had that issue with other discs when playing the output in PowerDVD, but it played just perfect in the standalone Blu-ray player.

worknstiff
20th July 2017, 21:02
thanks CraigWally; RE: When playing the output in PowerDVD.

I will have to try playing it somewhere else then. It seems like I had this issue once before and when I played it with PowerDVD on another PC it was ok. I tried this disk on that PC and PowerDVD still flickered. PowerDVD USUALLY plays 3D content fine, wonder why this one is strange?

Ch3vr0n
20th July 2017, 21:28
It aint strange, that's been established LONG ago soon after 3D support was added. PDVD doesn't seem to like the in-mux method BDRB uses. Play the disc in a standalone player and it'll play just fine

worknstiff
20th July 2017, 23:31
thanks Ch3vr0n; RE: PDVD doesn't seem to like the in-mux method BDRB uses. Play the disc in a standalone player and it'll play just fine.

Weird, I usually always play the BD_RB output and never had any problems with PowerDVD 14. Like they say, live and learn. I wasted two or three attempts on trying to FIX this problem. Thanks for the heads up.

bryrabknowles
21st July 2017, 17:46
Rather than use Quick Encode for Extras, is there any way to set BDRB to encode extras in SD?
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jdobbs
21st July 2017, 20:07
Rather than use Quick Encode for Extras, is there any way to set BDRB to encode extras in SD?
bryrabknowles is online now Report PostNot currently. There is a way to make everything SD... but not just extras.

I'll put it on my to-do list, though.

mparade
21st July 2017, 22:53
Most of my BD-s includes DTS-HD and AC3 tracks that I want to keep per disc. In case of chosing mkv container as an output is it possible to reencode the DTS-HD track to AC3 using the bitrate chosen in the mkv profile and keep the AC3 track intact without reencoding at the same time? I found that BD-RB wants to reencode the AC3 track as well (regardless of it's original bitrate) to the bitrate chosen in the mkv profile. (I do not want to reencode a lower or equal bitrate AC3 track to a higher or same bitrate track but at the same time I want to use 640 kbit/s for the DTS-HD track).

Please help.

gonca
21st July 2017, 23:20
Extract the AC3 track from the BluRay and remux back into the mkv

Lathe
21st July 2017, 23:35
Extract the AC3 track from the BluRay and remux back into the mkv

See, what did I tell you... This guy is on a ROLL! :D

gonca
22nd July 2017, 00:01
See, what did I tell you... This guy is on a ROLL! :D

And its still a lowercase g
By the way, your avatar, is that one of your dollies?

Lathe
22nd July 2017, 00:34
And its still a lowercase g
By the way, your avatar, is that one of your dollies?

Grrrr... Don't diss my Avatar little 'g'... Just an Anime thing. I would use some really nice gif images if the bloody site would allow me to do so...

MrVideo
22nd July 2017, 05:11
Extract the AC3 track from the BluRay and remux back into the mkv
I think the point is to avoid having to do the extra work, when BDRB can be told to leave it well enough alone.

gonca
22nd July 2017, 12:29
The point is that mparade asked if it is possible in BD_RB
It is not, so I recommended to him/her an easy way to do it

jdobbs
22nd July 2017, 13:10
Most of my BD-s includes DTS-HD and AC3 tracks that I want to keep per disc. In case of chosing mkv container as an output is it possible to reencode the DTS-HD track to AC3 using the bitrate chosen in the mkv profile and keep the AC3 track intact without reencoding at the same time? I found that BD-RB wants to reencode the AC3 track as well (regardless of it's original bitrate) to the bitrate chosen in the mkv profile. (I do not want to reencode a lower or equal bitrate AC3 track to a higher or same bitrate track but at the same time I want to use 640 kbit/s for the DTS-HD track).

Please help.It does checks so it doesn't reencode a lower or equal bitrate now. I'll have to check whether that is true for ALTERNATE output.

MrVideo
22nd July 2017, 15:43
The point is that mparade asked if it is possible in BD_RB
It is not, so I recommended to him/her an easy way to do it
True, but it can be a suggestion as an improvement for BDRB.

mparade
23rd July 2017, 15:03
In case of selecting mkv container as the output, even if I "turn on" a subtitle stream in the stream tab by using the right mouse button, after finishing the project media info tells this stream is not forced, but normal.

worknstiff
23rd July 2017, 15:32
@ mparade RE: Even if I "turn on" a subtitle stream in the stream tab by using the right mouse button.

I wish there was a way to "Burn In" the subtitles because of all the stubborn subtitles like Avatar & District9 to name a few. Streaming MKV's to Plex, Kodi or even dedicated boxes like the WDTV are hit and miss even if the forced flag is turned on. It would be great to simply have it displayed once and for all.

jdobbs
23rd July 2017, 16:17
@ mparade RE: Even if I "turn on" a subtitle stream in the stream tab by using the right mouse button.

I wish there was a way to "Burn In" the subtitles because of all the stubborn subtitles like Avatar & District9 to name a few. Streaming MKV's to Plex, Kodi or even dedicated boxes like the WDTV are hit and miss even if the forced flag is turned on. It would be great to simply have it displayed once and for all.There is. Look at "Use SupTitle..." in the setup menu. You have to first install SupTitle on your system (it is free, but, per its usage rules, can't be distributed with BD-RB).