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gonca
16th June 2013, 12:56
@longtom
In your case input size is the size of your movie, Movie Only. To accomplish what you want, BD-RB would have to demux every stream in the movie, add up the sizes for your selections and overhead. If you didn't like the new size and changed something it might want to start again, as the job changed.
If you really want to what you plan just set an oversized custom target and FORCE_NOENCODE=1 in your config file. This will give you the actual size of your settings and shouldn't take too much time.

longtom
16th June 2013, 12:59
Thanks, so'll start the process and see if bdrb is reencoding with 2 languages.

jdobbs
16th June 2013, 13:27
ok, but shouldn't be the input size different between one and 2 languages, or are ALL languages included in the input size?
(Main movie only output!) The input size is the size of the disc before processing. Why would that change when you are modifying your output selections?

longtom
16th June 2013, 13:29
Ok, so it is the full disc size? I thought it is only the size of the selected video and audio tracks.

lauguru
16th June 2013, 13:40
hello

as could be done, that bdrebuilder convert mpeg2 to mpeg4 files, without having to dial BD50 to BD25, BD50 eg to BD50 (force encoding). Many movies come in and want to convert mpeg2 to mpeg4.

I'm also checking that import dvd function, does not take the whole structure, and the same extras missing quoted above ... it could force the process mpeg2 to mpeg4, without having to choose dvd9 to dvd5 and dvd9 to dvd9 maintain

I tried to put FORCE_ENCODE = 1 but I can not

jdobbs
16th June 2013, 14:15
Ok, so it is the full disc size? I thought it is only the size of the selected video and audio tracks.It's the full size of the source -- for the mode. So Movie-Only would be different than Full-Backup.

jdobbs
16th June 2013, 14:18
hello

as could be done, that bdrebuilder convert mpeg2 to mpeg4 files, without having to dial BD50 to BD25, BD50 eg to BD50 (force encoding). Many movies come in and want to convert mpeg2 to mpeg4.

I'm also checking that import dvd function, does not take the whole structure, and the same extras missing quoted above ... it could force the process mpeg2 to mpeg4, without having to choose dvd9 to dvd5 and dvd9 to dvd9 maintain

I tried to put FORCE_ENCODE = 1 but I can notBD-RB imports all DVD titles that meet the minimum size. The default is 15 minutes, but you can change it with DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD. FORCE_ENCODE will definitely reencode -- but it must do so when you actually run the job, not during import. Importing creates a pseudo-BD structure that is not necessarily compliant. That pseudo-BD structure is your SOURCE after import. You have to then run the job (as if it is a typical backup).

lauguru
16th June 2013, 14:41
DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD = 1 is to display all the videos with 1 minute on the structure, correct?

jdobbs
16th June 2013, 14:52
DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD = 1 is to display all the videos with 1 minute on the structure, correct?You have to add it to [OPTIONS] area of the config file without the spaces, like this:

DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD=1

With that setting, any title that is at least 1 minute long will be included in the DVD import. This setting is documented in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. Just a warning, with a threshold set that low you're likely to get some "junk" like previews and warnings included in your import. It varies from disc to disc.

lauguru
16th June 2013, 15:00
You have to add it to [OPTIONS] area of the config file without the spaces, like this:

DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD=1

With that setting, any title that is at least 1 minute long will be included in the DVD import. This setting is documented in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. Just a warning, with a threshold set that low you're likely to get some "junk" like previews and warnings included in your import. It varies from disc to disc.

thanks Jdobbs ;)

indeed, it would be possible to add a command to convert (dvd 25fps) to 23,976, to 24 and vice versa, to well, take advantage of the audio and subtitles and more easily mounts to make. ???

omegaman7
16th June 2013, 16:52
Importing creates a pseudo-BD structure that is not necessarily compliant.

Love that feature by the way. I've lost count, how many mkv/mp4 files I've repaired. The blu-ray player can be a bit picky about MKV/MP4 files. But it always seems to play the Pseudo files built by BD-RB :)

AmigaFuture
17th June 2013, 10:43
@ omegaman7

As much as I Love BD-RB, you should try MKVToolNix. Building a Pseudo file structure isn't always needed from an already created MKV/MP4(V). Unless you need MPX.... ;-)

omegaman7
17th June 2013, 16:35
I'll look into it. Thanks Amiga ;)

jdobbs
17th June 2013, 18:48
I'll look into it. Thanks Amiga ;) If an MKV has trouble playing, most of the time it is because it was created with an incompatible track compression. You can fix that by using MKVMERGE:

mkvmerge.exe -o x:\destpath\outfile.mkv --compression -1:none x:\srcpath\infile.mkv

even better:

mkvmerge.exe --engage no_cue_duration --engage no_cue_relative_position -o x:\destpath\outfile.mkv --compression -1:none x:\srcpath\infile.mkv

mkvmerge.exe is included in the BD-RB tools folder.

omegaman7
17th June 2013, 19:42
Appreciate the input. THat seems pretty straightforward.

spotswood
18th June 2013, 02:58
Received the attached error when BDRB starts extracting the main movie streams. This particular disc has TrueHD tracks. The error doesn't specify which track is in error but the error comes up 3 times, so I'm assuming it's referencing the TrueHD tracks. My questions is, should I answer Yes or No from the options given? Or is this a bug and the warning is in error? Thanks for your help...

jdobbs
18th June 2013, 13:21
@spotswood

That error message isn't coming from BD-RB. It is from DGIndexNV. Generally I think the PAT/PMT is correct -- but Neuron2 would be a better source of information. Note that you can open DGIndexNV.exe and set an automatic answer so that message doesn't appear.

See this link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1617363&highlight=dgindexnv+pat%2Fpmt#post1617363) for a discussion. Note: As I mention above the newest versions of DGIndexNV allows you to automatically answer "Yes", "No", or "Ignore Stream" and suppress that message. You set it from the DGIndexNV GUI.

I just tested this on my system. Getting that message with TrueHD isn't happening, even if I enable the prompt. So I don't think it is "normal" to get it.

dt5
19th June 2013, 08:28
Shutdown does not seem to work.

[00:08:29] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.


But nothing happened.
In the event log there is no sign that the computer even tried to shutdown.

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64 bit

gonca
19th June 2013, 10:42
Shutdown works fine, use it all the time. Problem is probably on your end.

jdobbs
19th June 2013, 12:39
Shutdown does not seem to work.



But nothing happened.
In the event log there is no sign that the computer even tried to shutdown.

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64 bitThere are lots of settings in your system that could prevent shutdown. Something external is preventing it.

dt5
19th June 2013, 13:38
shutdown /s works.
I think that you use that command?

I have no idea what happened. I will try to verify it again.

Edit:
Now it worked also with BD_Rebuilder. Something happened (or not happened) last night.

Edit2:
Is there a way to perform a "shutdown /h"? (hibernate instead of shutting down)

jdobbs
19th June 2013, 14:39
shutdown /s works.
I think that you use that command?

I have no idea what happened. I will try to verify it again.

Edit:
Now it worked also with BD_Rebuilder. Something happened (or not happened) last night.

Edit2:
Is there a way to perform a "shutdown /h"? (hibernate instead of shutting down) I use an operating system call (ExitWindowsEx) to perform the shutdown.

Currently you can either shutdown completely, or put the system to sleep when "Shutdown" is selected. To put the system to sleep instead of performing a complete shutdown, see SHUTDOWN_SLEEP as documented in HIDDENOPTS.TXT.

spotswood
19th June 2013, 21:19
@spotswood

That error message isn't coming from BD-RB. It is from DGIndexNV. Generally I think the PAT/PMT is correct -- but Neuron2 would be a better source of information. Note that you can open DGIndexNV.exe and set an automatic answer so that message doesn't appear.

See this link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1617363&highlight=dgindexnv+pat%2Fpmt#post1617363) for a discussion. Note: As I mention above the newest versions of DGIndexNV allows you to automatically answer "Yes", "No", or "Ignore Stream" and suppress that message. You set it from the DGIndexNV GUI.OK, I'll give it a try. Does it even matter if I'm converting to BD9 AC3@640? What does x264 use if there's a mismatch? There's no error when trying another run with x264 instead of DGIndexNV...

I just tested this on my system. Getting that message with TrueHD isn't happening, even if I enable the prompt. So I don't think it is "normal" to get it.Did you try it on The Deep? Might be something with that title, although I don't have another movie with TrueHD to test. Thanks again for your help...

gonca
20th June 2013, 00:28
OK, I'll give it a try. Does it even matter if I'm converting to BD9 AC3@640? What does x264 use if there's a mismatch? There's no error when trying another run with x264 instead of DGIndexNV...

Did you try it on The Deep? Might be something with that title, although I don't have another movie with TrueHD to test. Thanks again for your help...

x264 encodes video not audio and DGDecNV decodes the streams, they don't do the same job

jdobbs
20th June 2013, 01:13
OK, I'll give it a try. Does it even matter if I'm converting to BD9 AC3@640? What does x264 use if there's a mismatch? There's no error when trying another run with x264 instead of DGIndexNV.Right now you really don't even know for sure which PID is causing the mismatch... so assuming it is audio may be an error. Ether way, in BD-RB's processing X264 and DGIndexNV are only used for converting video. The audio is demuxed by TSMUXER, decoded by NicAudio (using AVISYNTH) and reencoded using AFTEN. So if it were audio, DGIndexNV's disposition wouldn't matter anyway.

I'd recommend just setting DGIndexNV to answer "Yes" automatically -- and don't worry about it.

spotswood
20th June 2013, 02:48
x264 encodes video not audio and DGDecNV decodes the streams, they don't do the same jobAhh, silly me.

Right now you really don't even know for sure which PID is causing the mismatch... so assuming it is audio may be an error. Ether way, in BD-RB's processing X264 and DGIndexNV are only used for converting video. The audio is demuxed by TSMUXER, decoded by NicAudio (using AVISYNTH) and reencoded using AFTEN. So if it were audio, DGIndexNV's disposition wouldn't matter anyway.

I'd recommend just setting DGIndexNV to answer "Yes" automatically -- and don't worry about it.Ahh, silly me again. DGIndexNV option set to Yes. Thanks again guys...

Guest
20th June 2013, 12:56
Right now you really don't even know for sure which PID is causing the mismatch... so assuming it is audio may be an error. The DGIndexNV mismatch error can only occur for audio.

jdobbs
20th June 2013, 13:11
The DGIndexNV mismatch error can only occur for audio. Great. That makes it easy.

mrintegral
21st June 2013, 12:15
@jdobbs

I've recently had some trouble to have BDRebuilder work because it always gave me an ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 1605 error (file already exists).
My system is a MacPro with Paralles installed running Windows8. Of course, I am working with network volumes as working directories, they are hfs formatted disk drives being accessed via IP network.
The error mentioned above occurs solely in movie only mode! When creating the working directory in the Parallels disk C: everything runs smoothly.
I guess the problem is the path name: string length, delimiter or something like this.
Although my problem is solved now, it might be easy for you to check on behavior with these network paths and eventually change it.
Thanks!

benzyone
23rd June 2013, 00:35
Comodo just found this:

TrojWare.Win32.Injector.ABQS@299622063 C:\Users\Matt\Desktop\BLU RAY + VIDEO PROCESSING\BD-RBV04306\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\split.exe

TrojWare.Win32.Injector.ABQS@299622063 C:\Users\Matt\Desktop\BLU RAY + VIDEO PROCESSING\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\split.exe

TrojWare.Win32.Injector.ABQS@299622063 C:\ALL PROG SETUP STUFF\Necessary Setup and Driver Files\VIDEO APPS\BluRay Burning\New Versions of\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\split.exe

What do you think? False positive?

Matt

jdobbs
23rd June 2013, 02:24
If it is downloaded from my links... it is very definitely a false positive. I wrote split.exe... and it is clean.

Sometimes I think they A/V packages are more trouble than they are worth.

benzyone
23rd June 2013, 02:42
If it is downloaded from my links... it is very definitely a false positive. I wrote split.exe... and it is clean.

Sometimes I think they A/V packages are more trouble than they are worth.

I agree.

Appreciate your reply, esp. for something as prosaic as my question was.

jdobbs
23rd June 2013, 03:14
Prosaic, eh? My compliments on the vocabulary.

wakko709
23rd June 2013, 20:37
----------------------
[06/23/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta)
[12:24:40] Source: HOBBIT_PART1 - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Input BD size: 35.04 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:59:28.007]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:24:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:24:46] Processing: VID_00015 (1 of 2)
- [12:24:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [12:24:54] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,159 frames
- Bitrate: 2,540 Kbs
- [12:24:54] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[12:37:53] - Failed video encode, aborted
H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC) encoder has stopped working
-----------------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.7.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3326], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.44.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Ch3vr0n
23rd June 2013, 20:43
that's a modified logfile. The top of the log is missing, inspect.exe results NEVER appear at the start. Post the FULL and UNMODIFIED log results, then we can try to assist.

wakko709
23rd June 2013, 20:45
---------------------
[06/23/13] BD Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta)
[11:59:15] Source: HOBBIT_PART1
- Input BD size: 35.04 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:59:28.007]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:59:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:59:20] Processing: VID_00015 (1 of 2)
- [11:59:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [11:59:26] Reencoding video [VID_00015]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,159 frames
- Bitrate: 2,540 Kbs
- [11:59:26] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.44.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[11:59:36] - Failed video encode, aborted
--------------------
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.7.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3326], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.44.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
H.264(Mpeg-4 avc) encoder has stopper working

Ch3vr0n
23rd June 2013, 20:50
try removing the helper aps completely (including the install folders) and reinstalling them. Perhaps some other program took over.

gonca
23rd June 2013, 20:55
@wakko709
I might have missed it but have you tried any of the previous suggestions?

wakko709
23rd June 2013, 23:26
nope!

gonca
24th June 2013, 00:38
@wakko709
If you are not willing to try any suggestions to correct your problem, then why are you posting??

omegaman7
24th June 2013, 01:03
@wakko709
If you are not willing to try any suggestions to correct your problem, then why are you posting??

There's more than one way to interpret that response LOL! I guess I'm trying to assume that his post was non negative though. It would certainly not be logical to ask for help, and then refuse the opinions given. But, who ever said the human race is logical LOL!

wakko709
24th June 2013, 01:29
nope as in I did that and it didn't work!

gonca
24th June 2013, 03:22
@omegaman7
The question was --- have you tried any of the previous suggestions?
The answer was --- nope!

@wakko709
If you have cleaned the disk, re-ripped, reinstalled the helper apps, and your temps are ok, then look for any codec packs that might be interfering.

omegaman7
24th June 2013, 04:45
@omegaman7
The question was --- have you tried any of the previous suggestions?
The answer was --- nope!
Gotta love text conversations. The door is wide open to misinterpretation. Please don't be insulted. I understand where you're coming from :p He shouldn't have been so vague, but my statement stands. I was simply interpreting his reaction as, "Not Yet, but I'm on it".

I've probably really misinterpreted, since I haven't read every post that's been made :S

Jdobbs, Have you tried to import physical DVD titles on the fly (Anydvd Running), and output to MP4 720 x 480 with playable results? Because I've ran multiple tests today, and I get serious stuttering. The Pseudo files play just fine though :S :confused:

I notice that you recently updated the MP4BOX version. Perhaps that's why, eh? I've been running with BD-RB 4409 til now. But surely the old one wasn't causing this for so long. I am still testing.
--------EDIT-----------
Wow, an MKV source to MP4 is encoding MUCH faster. So the Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF may be the problem? Because when I encode from MPEG-2 sources(DVD), it goes 75 - 80% slower. I definitely won't be running DVD's very often LOL! Clearly HD streams are easier handled.

wakko709
24th June 2013, 04:54
sorry any ideas whats going on!

wakko709
24th June 2013, 08:12
i got it re-istalled haali splitter!

gonca
24th June 2013, 10:48
@wakko709
If you have uninstalled and reinstalled avisynth, haali and ffdshow and it still does this there must be a codec (pack) interfering. Make sure you uninstall all three helper apps and then reinstall them. If it doesn't work try x264/LAVF to decode to see if this works. The Hobbit movie should have no issues.

jdobbs
24th June 2013, 13:00
Gotta love text conversations. The door is wide open to misinterpretation. Please don't be insulted. I understand where you're coming from :p He shouldn't have been so vague, but my statement stands. I was simply interpreting his reaction as, "Not Yet, but I'm on it".

I've probably really misinterpreted, since I haven't read every post that's been made :S

Jdobbs, Have you tried to import physical DVD titles on the fly (Anydvd Running), and output to MP4 720 x 480 with playable results? Because I've ran multiple tests today, and I get serious stuttering. The Pseudo files play just fine though :S :confused:

I notice that you recently updated the MP4BOX version. Perhaps that's why, eh? I've been running with BD-RB 4409 til now. But surely the old one wasn't causing this for so long. I am still testing.
--------EDIT-----------
Wow, an MKV source to MP4 is encoding MUCH faster. So the Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF may be the problem? Because when I encode from MPEG-2 sources(DVD), it goes 75 - 80% slower. I definitely won't be running DVD's very often LOL! Clearly HD streams are easier handled. I'll run a couple of tests to see if the MP4 output. But I use 720x480 all the time for my iPhone. Normally, though, I copy the VIDEO_TS folder to my hard drive, though. I have done numerous MPEG-2 encodes in the last week -- I haven't noticed any slow encoding issues when doing it from hard drive. One thing you might try is setting the IMPORT folder to another drive (if you have one). By default the DVD is imported to the working folder, and you are then reading/writing to the same drive during encoding.

I'll let you know what I find.

omegaman7
24th June 2013, 17:30
The MKV to MP4 conversion succeeded without fault. I'm currently using Dvdshrink/Anydvd to rip the main title only, to VIDEO_TS. I thought about trying a single .VOB without separation, but I figured I'll try that next, if this doesn't succeed. Also, I recently added a directory for IMPORT. But I see that it still uses a tempimport folder.

A second encode from MKV to MP4 went well. So it's definitely isolated to a MPEG-2 source.

First encode went extremely well from VIDEO_TS. It only took 10 min. However, I'm unimpressed with the quality, so I'll run a 2 pass constrained size. It's looking like DVD Disc to Pseudo BD may be the problem somehow. Even though the Pseudo files play properly.

I think I may understand. I've seen Rebuilder reference optical drives for the source material on BD discs. I usually don't run the program from optical drive, but sometimes I do. Clearly with DVD is ill advised. Why it happens, is beyond me at the moment. But it seems likely the culprit.

AmigaFuture
24th June 2013, 21:53
Text messages by Phone or Fora are often misinterpreted because of lack of communication, as with wakko709 and gonca (only examples..Not flaming)...and Soooo many people "assume" negative rather than positive because of social conditioning and personal angst/drama (can be challenging to break free of..). I won't text by Phone with people who write in "txt speak" or won't use punctuation or capitalization with Phones because of that.

Anyway, I've noticed challenges with BD-RB and BD/DVDs from the Optical Drive also, usually program AnyDVD isn't running. I noticed it more earlier this month, June, as I was getting ready to visit another State, so I didn't keep any long or post. "Okay, Copy to HDD first!" However, this is a relaxed visit to another state..and DVDs are handy and I have my MacBook Pro...I'll do...some...testing.