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jdobbs
31st January 2014, 23:40
My bad LOL! His error was soo similar.I would have made the same assumption if I hadn't written the code. ;)

BD-RB uses pipes between FRIMDecode and FRIMEncode for BD3D to BD3D, but it requires AVISYNTH and FRIMSource() to do conversion of SBS to BD3D.

dfsooner
31st January 2014, 23:44
You can't do "a" -- because only movie-only 3D backup is supported. There should be a .BAT file in the working folder. Please post its contents.That only affects SBS imports that are being encoded.

MVCENCODE.BAT:
"D:\Utilities\BD_Rebuilder\tools\FRIMDecode.exe" -i::mvc "F:\BD_REBUILDER WORKFILES\WORKFILES\00800.track_4113.264"
"F:\BD_REBUILDER WORKFILES\WORKFILES\00800.track_4114.mvc" -o \\.\pipe\bdrb.yuv |
"D:\Utilities\BD_Rebuilder\tools\FRIMEncode.exe" mvc -i \\.\pipe\bdrb_L.yuv -i \\.\pipe\bdrb_R.yuv -viewoutput
-o "F:\BD_REBUILDER WORKFILES\WORKFILES\VID_00800.AVS.264" -o "F:\BD_REBUILDER WORKFILES\WORKFILES\VID_00800.AVS.mvc"
-w 1920 -h 1080 -f 23.976 -u 3 -cpbsize 3750 -l 6 -profile high -level 4.1 -vbr 21678 45000 -gop 24 4 0 S
-maxdpb 4

jdobbs
31st January 2014, 23:55
I don't see anything wrong with the command line. Can you open up a cmd window and run it to see what error you get?

dfsooner
1st February 2014, 00:04
I don't see anything wrong with the command line. Can you open up a cmd window and run it to see what error you get?

ERROR: Cannot initiate Intel Media Encoder - invalid parameters.
ERROR: invalid video parameters (-15), src\pipeline_encode.cpp (961)
ERROR: undefined behavior (-16), src\pipeline_decode.cpp (1113)
ERROR: the previous asynchrous operation is in execution (1), src\main_frim_decode.cpp (129)

Update:
I have an I7/3770k @ 3.5GHz (not overclocked).

HWK
1st February 2014, 00:05
Great to see its working.

Yeah, MVC encoding is anything but fast. But I notice on my system that my processor time is nowhere near 100%. I need to find a way to multiprocess when using FRIMEncode. On my system I think I could probably double the speed.

hmm, 8 hour is slow indeed. I think most likely cause is source being read from same drive is slowing down encoding.

Few days back I encoded with frim by having avc on one drive and mvc on another and finally destination was on separate drive. When quality is set u 3 I could see around 70% usage and 60 - 65% on u 2.

If u1 was chosen manually then 50 % was more like it on hexa core.

omegaman7
1st February 2014, 00:08
At the rate it's going, I would doubt hard drive I/O(R/W) is the problem. Better latency by using multi drive I'm sure, but trivial gain I would think. probably varies across CPU's. I'm running a 1090t. Perhaps intel processors are hit harder?

HWK
1st February 2014, 00:15
Jdobbs and you have AMD and I own Intel processor. I am wondering if it has to do something with speed. I wouldn't be surprised if it is optimized for Intel processor, thus name Intel Media SDK.

HWK
1st February 2014, 00:19
At the rate it's going, I would doubt hard drive I/O(R/W) is the problem. Better latency by using multi drive I'm sure, but trivial gain I would think. probably varies across CPU's. I'm running a 1090t. Perhaps intel processors are hit harder?

No, I am saying harddrive has to seek between two files back and forth during encoding.

If file is 10 GB long and another is 5 GB then on sector level it has to go back and forth to read. However I won't conclude this to be cause until more test are done. I am only saying because I loose few frames performance as well when doing this.

omegaman7
1st February 2014, 00:21
Well, I'm sure there's room for optimization ;) I'm a patient man :)

HWK
1st February 2014, 00:21
Well, I'm sure there's room for optimization ;) I'm a patient man :)

It always exited, that is why we have advanced from stone age :D

AmigaFuture
1st February 2014, 05:27
Software players often introduce their own artifacts.

I will agree with you..to an extent. I've NEVER before compared so many encodes with my Blu-ray Player and PowerDVD 12 as I have when I came into this thread! Wooahh... Anyway, mmmany times, when I see an artifact with my LG player, I also see it in PowerDVD 12 and visa versa. You have to be able to be able or willing to become attentive without getting down INTO a movie and willing to go back some and watch/listen again several times.
Hardware and software have to be functioning correctly also...but the results, for my experiences, are the same with both. However, I completely understand your disclaimer for the thread.

This one hell of a way to memorize lines and scenes in movies...WOW!

I haven't seen any replies about the Batch "Bug" I think I found, but....am going to Retest that soon. I have a Surge Protector that wasn't so protected from my cats...so Power OFF would happen in Pass 2 with a current test. Argh. :scared: :):)

omegaman7
1st February 2014, 05:51
Ok. So my last job apparently finished ok. Oddly though, Imgburn(I think), reported that the directory doesn't exist, and that there's nothing to build. And even odder than that, it did it anyway! I found the .ISO in the working folder. All appears fine. At least until I can test it on my soon to be player :o

Very weird stuff. I'm betting that one or both of the apps, doesn't like the name of my folder. "__3D Backups__"
I do that, so it resides at the top of the folder :o Guess a numeral 1 will suffice.

worknstiff
1st February 2014, 14:53
I was wondering how the 3D SDS videos are handled. I have a 3D SBS MKV that has been cropped to 1920x800. Will BD Rebuilder use this "as is" to create a final output of 1920x1080 3D or just leave it at 1920x800 in the final output? Should I just go ahead and un-crop it first to make it compliant before feeding it to BD Rebuilder? thanks jdobbs for this addition to an all ready great program.

dfsooner
1st February 2014, 17:00
MVCENCODE.BAT output:

ERROR: Cannot initiate Intel Media Encoder - invalid parameters.
ERROR: invalid video parameters (-15), src\pipeline_encode.cpp (961)
ERROR: undefined behavior (-16), src\pipeline_decode.cpp (1113)
ERROR: the previous asynchrous operation is in execution (1), src\main_frim_decode.cpp (129)

Update:
I have an I7/3770k @ 3.5GHz (not overclocked).

Anyone have an idea why Intel Media Encoder would come into play here? I didn't think any of the tools supported it.

omegaman7
1st February 2014, 18:12
If anyone is interested in testing the 3D capabilities, there are "open movies" on the web. This one has the benefit of being a fast encode(short run time). I didn't want to run the last job for another 7+ hours, so this is a viable option ;)
http://www.elephantsdream.org/

The above appears to be Full SBS.

Did 4607 bring new support for Full SBS? I remember you saying you were testing it, and then you updated a few hours later. If so, I have an error. But it is related to its framerate.
----------------------
[10:04:04] Importing MKV: ED3D_SIDEBYSIDE-RL-2X1920X1038_24FPS
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
[10:04:04] ERROR: 3D framerate must be 23.976fps. Aborted.

So there's no way (currently) to convert 24 - 23.976?

louv68
1st February 2014, 21:43
1. Ripped "movie only" w/ DVDFab v8.0.3.0 (my PC does not like v9)
2. Shrunk w/ BD-RBV04605 to BD25
3. Burned with imgBurn

I encountered a glitch in where forced subtitles on Captain Phillips remain on-screen until the next forced subtitle. I would have included the log, but I unfortunately deleted it when I burned the disc.

I re-shrunk the rip using another program to test it out, and the subtitles work fine. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this weird anomaly. I've not encountered this with any other titles.

jdobbs
1st February 2014, 22:54
1. Ripped "movie only" w/ DVDFab v8.0.3.0 (my PC does not like v9)
2. Shrunk w/ BD-RBV04605 to BD25
3. Burned with imgBurn

I encountered a glitch in where forced subtitles on Captain Phillips remain on-screen until the next forced subtitle. I would have included the log, but I unfortunately deleted it when I burned the disc.

I re-shrunk the rip using another program to test it out, and the subtitles work fine. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this weird anomaly. I've not encountered this with any other titles.I just happen to have "Captain Phillips" on my hard drive right now, so I'll plan to give it a test and see that happens.

[edit] Whoops, I guess I deleted it. I'll have to rip it again.

jdobbs
1st February 2014, 23:00
If anyone is interested in testing the 3D capabilities, there are "open movies" on the web. This one has the benefit of being a fast encode(short run time). I didn't want to run the last job for another 7+ hours, so this is a viable option ;)
http://www.elephantsdream.org/

The above appears to be Full SBS.

Did 4607 bring new support for Full SBS? I remember you saying you were testing it, and then you updated a few hours later. If so, I have an error. But it is related to its framerate.
----------------------
[10:04:04] Importing MKV: ED3D_SIDEBYSIDE-RL-2X1920X1038_24FPS
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
[10:04:04] ERROR: 3D framerate must be 23.976fps. Aborted.

So there's no way (currently) to convert 24 - 23.976?Yes, it converts full SBS.

The BD standard doesn't support 24fps for 3D, it only accepts 23.976fps (24000/1001) for 3D 1080p. I suppose I could use AVISYNTH to convert it, but I don't do it now. But I'd also have to force reencoding of the audio in order to keep sync.

omegaman7
1st February 2014, 23:17
Yes, it converts full SBS.

The BD standard doesn't support 24fps for 3D, it only accepts 23.976fps (24000/1001) for 3D 1080p. I suppose I could use AVISYNTH to convert it, but I don't do it now. But I'd also have to force reencoding of the audio in order to keep sync.

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I'll have to find another(PROPER) free short source to play with ;)

jdobbs
1st February 2014, 23:25
Thanks for the clarification. I guess I'll have to find another(PROPER) free short source to play with ;)If you have any of the Disney discs, you can usually find a short cartoon for testing. I use the Road Runner cartoon from "Legend of the Guardians 3D" for a lot of my testing.

omegaman7
1st February 2014, 23:28
If you have any of the Disney discs, you can usually find a short cartoon for testing. I use the Road Runner cartoon from "Legend of the Guardians 3D" for a lot of my testing.

I'll have to check some of my discs for shorter 3D content. Thanks! :)

louv68
2nd February 2014, 07:16
I just happen to have "Captain Phillips" on my hard drive right now, so I'll plan to give it a test and see that happens.

[edit] Whoops, I guess I deleted it. I'll have to rip it again.

I don't know how I forgot to mention this, but it starts out fine, and after a couple of times pausing the movie (yeah, girlfriend has a small bladder), it begins to glitch in the 2nd half or so.

Playback on a older pre-Cinavia player Vizio VBR231

gzr
2nd February 2014, 09:39
There's a post in the tsmuxer thread telling the same problem that I told you before (and seems you don't want to believe)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1664942#post1664942

Like he says it happens in some movies and some are ok.

mparade
2nd February 2014, 12:05
Changes.txt says: "Added routines to include alternate angles in the "Other Movie-Only Playlist" selection dialog."
Are the alternate angles considered as extras during encoding or as alternate primary videos in case using Full Backups?

Any help would be appreciated.

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 14:26
Changes.txt says: "Added routines to include alternate angles in the "Other Movie-Only Playlist" selection dialog."
Are the alternate angles considered as extras during encoding or as alternate primary videos in case using Full Backups?

Any help would be appreciated.That dialog is related to movie-only. Since there are no extras in a movie-only encode, when you choose the alternate angle it is the movie.

For full backups the alternate angles are always included, and shouldn't be considered extras.

mparade
2nd February 2014, 15:01
That dialog is related to movie-only. Since there are no extras in a movie-only encode, when you choose the alternate angle it is the movie.

For full backups the alternate angles are always included, and shouldn't be considered extras.

Thanks, I just wanted to be sure that the alternate angles are not considered extras by BD-RB during encoding to be able to use different (lower) CRF values for them and for the "real" extra content (a bit higher) of my Blu-rays.

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 15:03
Thanks, I just wanted to be sure that the alternate angles are not considered extras by BD-RB during encoding to be able to use different (lower) CRF values for them and for the "real" extra content (a bit higher) of my Blu-rays. They shouldn't. But I'll go back and look just to be sure.

dfsooner
2nd February 2014, 17:19
JDobbs, any idea why I get this or what can be done about it?

Originally Posted by jdobbs View Post
I don't see anything wrong with the command line. Can you open up a cmd window and run it to see what error you get?



MVCENCODE.BAT output:

ERROR: Cannot initiate Intel Media Encoder - invalid parameters.
ERROR: invalid video parameters (-15), src\pipeline_encode.cpp (961)
ERROR: undefined behavior (-16), src\pipeline_decode.cpp (1113)
ERROR: the previous asynchronous operation is in execution (1), src\main_frim_decode.cpp (129)

Update:
I have an I7/3770k @ 3.5GHz (not overclocked).

Sharc
2nd February 2014, 17:28
@dfsooner:
Did you set up ffdshow VFW configuration correctly?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1665312&postcount=19037

1. Click on the start button and select FFDSHOW from "All Programs"
2. Select VFW configuration.
3. On the Decoder tab, go down to "Raw Video", and select "All Supported".

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 17:38
JDobbs, any idea why I get this or what can be done about it?





MVCENCODE.BAT output:

ERROR: Cannot initiate Intel Media Encoder - invalid parameters.
ERROR: invalid video parameters (-15), src\pipeline_encode.cpp (961)
ERROR: undefined behavior (-16), src\pipeline_decode.cpp (1113)
ERROR: the previous asynchronous operation is in execution (1), src\main_frim_decode.cpp (129)

Update:
I have an I7/3770k @ 3.5GHz (not overclocked).Not a clue. I've not seen that at all. Just for gits and shiggles, maybe try forcing software decoding and see if it changes things. FRIM_SW_DECODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1, FRIMDecode uses software decoding, 0 (default) uses automatic detection
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1, FRIMEncode uses software encoding, 0 (default) uses automatic detection

dfsooner
2nd February 2014, 18:06
@dfsooner:
Did you set up ffdshow VFW configuration correctly?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1665312&postcount=19037

1. Click on the start button and select FFDSHOW from "All Programs"
2. Select VFW configuration.
3. On the Decoder tab, go down to "Raw Video", and select "All Supported".

Yes, tried that. Apparently it only affects SBS encoding anyway.

dfsooner
2nd February 2014, 18:40
Not a clue. I've not seen that at all. Just for gits and shiggles, maybe try forcing software decoding and see if it changes things. FRIM_SW_DECODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1, FRIMDecode uses software decoding, 0 (default) uses automatic detection
FRIM_SW_ENCODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1, FRIMEncode uses software encoding, 0 (default) uses automatic detection

Tried it and got the same error.

It would seem that it recognizes the presence of Intel Media encoder/decoder hardware and tries to use it regardless. Don't know if others with Ivy or Sandy Bridge processors have tried to use this feature. It always fails immediately following the completion of the extraction phase.

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 18:43
Tried it and got the same error.

It would seem that it recognizes the presence of Intel Media encoder/decoder hardware and tries to use it regardless. Don't know if others with Ivy or Sandy Bridge processors have tried to use this feature. There's really no reason to think that's the source of the error anyway. I just thought it would be worth giving it a try.

Someone further back in the thread reported using a supported processor without issues...

louv68
2nd February 2014, 18:48
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/362085-DVDFab-Movie-Only-Blu-Ray-Rip-BD-Rebuilder-to-BD25-Forced-Sub-issues?p=2299198&viewfull=1#post2299198

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 18:53
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/362085-DVDFab-Movie-Only-Blu-Ray-Rip-BD-Rebuilder-to-BD25-Forced-Sub-issues?p=2299198&viewfull=1#post2299198Yeah, I'll fix it when I finish what I'm currently working on. It's been reported a few times in the last several days.

This only happens on movie-only backups, right?

louv68
2nd February 2014, 19:09
Yeah, I'll fix it when I finish what I'm currently working on. It's been reported a few times in the last several days.

This only happens on movie-only backups, right?

I typically do movie only, so if someone else could jump in and answer this, that would be great. Thanks!

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 19:21
I typically do movie only, so if someone else could jump in and answer this, that would be great. Thanks! I'm sure that's the only time it can happen. In movie-only, BD-RB pulls out the forced subtitles into a stream of their own. I'm guessing there is something odd about the way the subtitles are removed in Captain Phillips -- either that or I'm missing something when building that PGS stream for remux.

It might be a day or two, but I'll find it and fix it.

soneca
2nd February 2014, 19:29
Jdobbs, apparently no more sync issues with the latest version!
I'll do some more tests.
:thanks:

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 19:33
I typically do movie only, so if someone else could jump in and answer this, that would be great. Thanks!I'm sure that's the only time it can happen. In movie-only, BD-RB pulls out the forced subtitles into a stream of their own. I'm guessing there is something odd about the way the subtitles are removed in Captain Phillips -- either that or I'm missing something when building that PGS stream for remux.

It might be a day or two, but I'll find it and fix it. Ok... now I'm confused. I just did a movie-only backup of Captain Phillips and the forced subtitles are working correctly. Do you have more details? What kind of player are you using?

louv68
2nd February 2014, 20:05
Ok... now I'm confused. I just did a movie-only backup of Captain Phillips and the forced subtitles are working correctly. Do you have more details? What kind of player are you using?

Vizio VBR231 Everything was working fine until the 2nd half of the movie or so. That's when the problem started.
I cannot test it on my other player, as it's from 2012 and adheres to Cinavia.

If I may suggest you leave it playing, and come back to it past the half way point. Thanks.

jdobbs
2nd February 2014, 20:12
Vizio VBR231 Everything was working fine until the 2nd half of the movie or so. That's when the problem started.
I cannot test it on my other player, as it's from 2012 and adheres to Cinavia.

If I may suggest you leave it playing, and come back to it past the half way point. Thanks.I'll do that and see what I find. Thanks.

dfsooner
2nd February 2014, 20:35
There's really no reason to think that's the source of the error anyway. I just thought it would be worth giving it a try.

Someone further back in the thread reported using a supported processor without issues...

OK. I have now tried this on 3 different Intel systems all with up-to-date Windows 7 x64 installed.

It fails on the two with Intel hardware encode capabilities (Ivy Bridge & Sandy Bridge) and works on the one without. Therefore, I must remain skeptical that it is set up to work properly with Quicksync-enabled processors.

Update: I may owe you an apology. On a hunch, I cleared my BDRB folder completely, copied all the new stuff into it, set the FRIM_SW_DECODE and FRIM_SW_ENCODE parameters to 1 and tried again. It seems to be working! It would seem that something in the install folder, maybe old BDREBUILDER.INI parameters or an old project file, was the culprit. I will also check to see if it works with hardware decode.

Update 2:
Still fails with hardware decode. In addition, I see just enough pixilation in the right eye of the finished product to make it annoying to watch. That is the case on three different titles processed on three different computers.

Glarioo
3rd February 2014, 18:07
Ahhh... I think I may know what it is.

1. Click on the start button and select FFDSHOW from "All Programs"
2. Select VFW configuration.
3. On the Decoder tab, go down to "Raw Video", and select "All Supported".

Let me know if that works -- and I'll update to a new version that does this automatically at encode time.


I thought "Raw Video" must be set to "all YUV". I'm not doing 3D Bluray's, only 2D to MKV.

worknstiff
3rd February 2014, 21:55
[QUOTE=dfsooner;1665745]
It fails on the two with Intel hardware encode capabilities (Ivy Bridge & Sandy Bridge) and works on the one without. Therefore, I must remain skeptical that it is set up to work properly with Quicksync-enabled processors.

--I too am having problems converting SBS 3D videos.
I have never had problems previously using BD Rebuilder, even when creating 3D SBS MKV's. Is it something on just my Intel i7 system or is there is a setting I am missing that enables the 3D output ISO. I have done a fresh install of BD Rebuilder (and all helper apps) on two different OS's (WIN-7 64k & WIN-8.1 64k w/ Nvidia GTX-550 Ti GPU) and am puzzled why it will not complete, even using the hidden commands FRIM_SW_DECODE=1 & FRIM_SW_ENCODE=1.


Included Files:

BD Rebuider.log

----------------------
[02/03/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.07 (beta)
[15:38:20] Source: PJSOFMNSTERS3D_(SBS)_00000
- Input BD size: 3.88 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:09.029]
- Target BD size: 23.68 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Converting SBS source to 3D-BD format
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:38:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:38:21] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [15:38:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15:40:04] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 152,704 frames
- Bitrate: 28,997 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC reencoding
- [15:40:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
[15:40:05] - Failed video encode, aborted


BD Rebuilder INF

[Status]
LABEL=PJSOFMNSTERS3D_(SBS)
VERSION=v0.46.07 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4166344704
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4166344704
TARGET_SIZE=25427968000
REDUCTION=6.10318391936876
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=25427968000
RATE=28997


Thanks jdobbs, Let me know if you need any more info.

jdobbs
4th February 2014, 00:12
@worknstiff

Does it also fail when you try to do a 3D backup of a 3D BD, or just when attempting a SBS-> BD3D conversion?

jdobbs
4th February 2014, 00:16
OK. I have now tried this on 3 different Intel systems all with up-to-date Windows 7 x64 installed.

It fails on the two with Intel hardware encode capabilities (Ivy Bridge & Sandy Bridge) and works on the one without. Therefore, I must remain skeptical that it is set up to work properly with Quicksync-enabled processors.

Update: I may owe you an apology. On a hunch, I cleared my BDRB folder completely, copied all the new stuff into it, set the FRIM_SW_DECODE and FRIM_SW_ENCODE parameters to 1 and tried again. It seems to be working! It would seem that something in the install folder, maybe old BDREBUILDER.INI parameters or an old project file, was the culprit. I will also check to see if it works with hardware decode.

Update 2:
Still fails with hardware decode. In addition, I see just enough pixilation in the right eye of the finished product to make it annoying to watch. That is the case on three different titles processed on three different computers. I've done a LOT of backups and I see no pixelation at all. Are you playing back on a standalone player? Also, someone several pages back reported that they saw pixelation (I think) when using HW decoding.

It might be a good idea on the next release for me to set SW encoding/decoding as the default, and make automatic the alternative.

jdobbs
4th February 2014, 00:54
I have updated the first post of this thread with links to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.46.10). Changes for this release:- Fixed an issue in which incorrect setting
of the decoder for FFDSHOW VFW Raw video
could cause 3D backups from SBS to fail at
encode time. BD-RB now sets the VFW/rawv
correctly before encode, and then resets
it to it's previous state at completion.
- Added warnings when attempting to backup
SBS 3D sources and the backup mode is not
correct for BD-3D using MVC.
- Corrected a problem in which forced sub-
title text in movie-only mode could, under
certain circumstances, remain on until the
next subtitle period begins.
- Changed the default for FRIM decoding and
encoding from "Automatic" to "software".
It seems this will provide a greater level
of compatibility, even on Intel processors.
- Added code to prevent "Keep original video"
from occurring when processing a SBS source
into BD-3D.
- Removed INSPECT.EXE from the build. The
same functionality is now available from
the BD-RB HELP menu.
- Added FFDSHOW release 4515 to the list of
tested/recommended versions.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

soneca
4th February 2014, 01:54
Nice! :thanks:

dfsooner
4th February 2014, 02:24
I've done a LOT of backups and I see no pixelation at all. Are you playing back on a standalone player? Also, someone several pages back reported that they saw pixelation (I think) when using HW decoding.

It might be a good idea on the next release for me to set SW encoding/decoding as the default, and make automatic the alternative.

I was playing back using a Dune HD Base 3D. I might suspect the player except that the ripped ISO from the original plays just fine. I did select BD-9 output for all three. Is it possible it was just too much data to make it that small and expect good 3D results (although one original was only about 17GB to begin with)?

jdobbs
4th February 2014, 02:50
I was playing back using a Dune HD Base 3D. I might suspect the player except that the ripped ISO from the original plays just fine. I did select BD-9 output for all three. Is it possible it was just too much data to make it that small and expect good 3D results (although one original was only about 17GB to begin with)? I personally don't think BD-5/9 is a good choice for 3D. There are twice as many frames, so you're creating the equivalent of 4 hrs video for a 2 hr film. While it's not exactly 2x required bandwidth -- it's using the currently available tools. Add to that all the enhancements that X264 provides (that aren't available with FRIMEncode) and a BD-5/9 is really pushing the limit.

I'm not saying you can't create a presentable BD-5/9 -- but I wouldn't expect quality comparible to the original. I personally do all my 3D backups to BD-25 (except possibly imported half-SBS sources that have already lost a significant portion of their true resolution before the conversion).