BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[spida_singh]

delete post, found solution....my bad for not reading

Originally Posted by chudm
hmmm well im doing a full backup to bd-25 i fixed my problem thx to jdobbs post from some time ago!

open the .ini file on the working directory and did this:

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

[jangai]

Hi all,
With backup of Animatrix BD : got a new problem
I had kept only DD EN, DD THD EN, DD FR for audio and all PGS tracks in requested parameters. All seemed well processed into log file.

When I look at my main movies m2ts files with TSmuxR : I see my 3 audio tracks and all PGS like asked to BD_RB

But when I run a BD-RE burned disc with my PS3, I can play only FR audio and FR PGS track... Other operations are not possible...


Problem solved :
Authoring for Animatrix is done just as remote control command for audio track and PGS track have the only choice fixed by pulldown menus...
If I want DD THD EN audio : I just must choose it by pulldown menu with command "popup menu"... It's only an "authoring choice"...

I profit from this post to thanks jdobbs again for this amazing piece of software...

[jdobbs]

@ JDobbs
Just had the GUI issue, no hWnd returned. error
(first time ive ever had this issue)

It happened when the encode finished the first pass and was starting the second but displayed before the encode had started and the x264 window had no information to return.

So maybe the problem could be that the GUI is trying to retrieve this information too early on some computers possibly when other tasks are running that could be delaying the start (The disk was under load when this occured) It tries to retreive the hWnd every 1/10th of a second for 5 seconds after the command has been executed. That's a really long time in computer terms...

[tekmobile]

It tries to retreive the hWnd every 1/10th of a second for 5 seconds after the command has been executed. That's a really long time in computer terms...

Well ive tried and tried to re create the error again by canceling and resuming the 2nd pass under different conditions with no luck
(Using Vista Home Premium SP2, 2GB DDR2 RAM)

[daberti]

trying to encode Black Hawk Down EU version. BD25
.
Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
Failed to retrieve audio, aborted.

More info:.......

[Status]
LABEL=BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30139856760
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30139693056
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.800176838270718
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111

**********

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLURAY\BLACK HAWK DOWN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD_REBUILDER\

****************

Any hint?

Thanks in advance

[chudm]

trying to encode Black Hawk Down EU version. BD25
.
Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
Failed to retrieve audio, aborted.

More info:.......

[Status]
LABEL=BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30139856760
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30139693056
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.800176838270718
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111

**********

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLURAY\BLACK HAWK DOWN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD_REBUILDER\

****************

Any hint?

Thanks in advance

got this problem right know with my matrix bluray, dont know why :eek:

[chudm]

hmmm ill try to put both source and working path on the same partition, cause i see on your ini you have it on differents partitions, and so do i, maybe thats the problem?

[saphire199]

Honestly I haven't a clue. I first heard of that problem when I changed the way the GUI was getting the window handle from the operating system. I could never figure out why it didn't work for some (it never happened on mine), so I just switched back to the original method. Since I did that it appears for work correctly on all systems except yours. I've gone over the code with a fine tooth comb. It is correct. That only leaves the operating system. I put that message in the LOG to show that after trying multiple times through system calls, the operating system would not return the X264 window handle.

Sorry it took so long to get back. I am continuing this as I saw someone else got the same message (GUI error) and I thought what I came up with might help. I also saw your comments with Furious Flea and when new version comes out I will test this on same movie.

OK, since you said my GUI error shouldn't be BDRB, I went to the guide thread and doublechecked everything. The first thing I did was re-download all the tools that go along with BDRB to make sure I had current. (ffdshow, etc) The first thing I noticed was ffdshow version was different - so I went into the version that I had (rev2684) and found out that I had not set any of the settings as laid out in the guide. This was kinda weird, since I have been using BDRB for awhile, I have burned MANY discs, I know I set up the ffdshow when I first started, but yet the settings weren't as I set them. The other thing is that this looks like a newer version than what is on the link (rev2661). I know this happened recently, cuz all my discs have been playing fine after remake. Then I checked the discs working backwards to about a month ago and sure enough, they all say data disc instead of avchd on my PS3. So I changed the version to what was on the link, set the proper settings and tried to redo death race. (As a note, I set the settings on version 2684 and redid death race and did get the GUI error again)On version 2661, I did not get the GUI error, but I did get encode errors. Then I tried Pink Panther 2, full movie, no problem. Then I tried Prestige, movie only, no problem. So I guess, in conclusion I have this:

1. Whats the difference between ffdshow rev 2661 and 2684.
2. Could this (ffdshow rev 2684) be connected in any way to getting GUI error? (cuz when I changed it, I stopped getting the error.
3. Death Race is the most complicated set of files I have ever seen in doing this - it has 72 vids, some MPEG4, some VC-1 and it also has secondary vid within the vid structure.(MPEG 4, 480p instead of 1080) It has AC-3 audio, DTS HD audio and DTS HD XLL audio. Could I be doing something wrong with how I am setting this up cuz it's so complicated?

I know this is a long one and I do appreciate your time and all the hard work you put into this program. I think it is great and I use it ALL the time, it is the only solution I have found that lets me save copies of my discs in the format that I choose (full movie/movie only/BD5,9,25). So thanks for bearing with me.

saphire199

[chudm]

put the working directory and the source path on the same folder but still had the same problem with matrix!

[20:05:08] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_MATRIX
- Input BD size: 37,10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:35:52.495]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[20:05:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:05:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[20:05:17] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


any suggestion guys?

[chudm]

sorry found the answer by searching on the thread :)

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

that works for me and saphire199

[GaPony]

@chudm

Maybe starting from scratch after making changes would be helpful. FWIW, I made a copy of this movie (Movie Only to BD9) back in March with whatever version was valid on 3-18-09.

What settings are you using? Maybe you're going to have to compromise on your choice of audio in order to get a workable copy, for the time being.

[chudm]

hmmm well im doing a full backup to bd-25 i fixed my problem thx to jdobbs post from some time ago!

open the .ini file on the working directory and did this:

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

[mikamocha]

Pls...the BD Rebuilder is show popup message "This beta has expired. Please upgrade to a newer version"
I try many version ..it still shown this message..
pls advice

thanks

[setarip_old]

@mikamocha

Hi!

Go to the following link that will take you to the first post of this thread and click on the link to download v.2.4.02:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1227473&postcount=1

[daberti]

hmmm well im doing a full backup to bd-25 i fixed my problem thx to jdobbs post from some time ago!

open the .ini file on the working directory and did this:

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

Done, with success! :)
Huge thanks :)

EDIT:
Success when target was 8.5GB
Failed when target was BD25. I.e.: BD structure is created but without reencoding the video, yet giving to it a ridiculous file size of 3MB (from a >than 25 source).
After further investigation the problem happened to me only when choosing to resize to 720p.
I.e.: ENCODE_STEP=1 is not needed to complete conversion process if I decide to keep original 1080p resolution

[Furiousflea]

hmmm ill try to put both source and working path on the same partition, cause i see on your ini you have it on differents partitions, and so do i, maybe thats the problem?

This shouldn't cause a problem in any way at all...Unless your referring to a previous post\some other context.

[scissors]

It tries to retreive the hWnd every 1/10th of a second for 5 seconds after the command has been executed. That's a really long time in computer terms...

Hi.

Nice work.

I've had this error for the first time ever also.

Film - any given sunday UK. Film only backup. dvd9.

1)I normally do dvd5, but just ordered some dl discs and it's a long film.

2) It's a 49gig iso and i'm limitted with space, so i ran it through tsmuxer to create a 28gig BD folder (this has worked in the past)

3)The folder is created on and external USB drive (again normally ok)

4) this occurred right after audio and subs streams extracted.

5) video codec vc1 (source m2ts does play in media player)


I've dropped back down to v 2301 as it's the last version i had before current this seems to have got past this point.

Also, in the workfiles folder the vc1 has been demuxed, but the script refers to the m2ts. Is the raw video stream used, or can I delete it - as space is tight?

[tekmobile]

Hi.


Also, in the workfiles folder the vc1 has been demuxed, but the script refers to the m2ts. Is the raw video stream used, or can I delete it - as space is tight?

You can delete it its only used for sizing calculations

[chudm]

Done, with success! :)
Huge thanks :)

EDIT:
Success when target was 8.5GB
Failed when target was BD25. I.e.: BD structure is created but without reencoding the video, yet giving to it a ridiculous file size of 3MB (from a >than 25 source).
After further investigation the problem happened to me only when choosing to resize to 720p.
I.e.: ENCODE_STEP=1 is not needed to complete conversion process if I decide to keep original 1080p resolution

i will know if mine failed on 2 or 3 hours, im still encoding matrix to bd25 full backup

[chudm]

full backup to bd 25 gbs of matrix done :) 23.1 gbs

[daberti]

full backup to bd 25 gbs of matrix done :) 23.1 gbs

I'm happy for you :) Did you make it at 1080p?

[chudm]

I'm happy for you :) Did you make it at 1080p?

full backup to bd-25 man, no resize, no audio converting, full backup, only deleted french audio & japanesse :D

[chudm]

tested the bd-25 on my ps3 and its working perfect :D now ill do 300 :)

[jdobbs]

Hi.

Nice work.

I've had this error for the first time ever also.

Film - any given sunday UK. Film only backup. dvd9.

1)I normally do dvd5, but just ordered some dl discs and it's a long film.

2) It's a 49gig iso and i'm limitted with space, so i ran it through tsmuxer to create a 28gig BD folder (this has worked in the past)

3)The folder is created on and external USB drive (again normally ok)

4) this occurred right after audio and subs streams extracted.

5) video codec vc1 (source m2ts does play in media player)


I've dropped back down to v 2301 as it's the last version i had before current this seems to have got past this point.

Also, in the workfiles folder the vc1 has been demuxed, but the script refers to the m2ts. Is the raw video stream used, or can I delete it - as space is tight? It's random. You probably would have had the same chance of success if you had used the same version again. Also -- you didn't have to restart. The encode was executing, it is only the GUI status that was not being updated. If you ignore it, you are fine. The message is a warning, just so you know that the GUI isn't updating -- if it were fatal, BD-RB would have stopped on its own.

I have no idea what is causing it, but I can say that it is something to do with particular configuration. In hundreds of encodes it has never once happened to me. My suggestion would be to make sure you are using the version of AVISYNTH, FFDSHOW, X264, TSMUXER, and HAALI that are included with BD-RB and/or are recommended at the beginning of this thread. If you do, you'll likely never see the message again.

Dropping back to an old version is not an acceptable solution -- you'll find that v0.23.01 will timeout soon.

For your last question see the next post.

[jdobbs]

You can delete it its only used for sizing calculations Not exactly. That demuxed video is used when the original is small enough to fit without reencoding. So if you remove it without knowing exactly what you're doing you can cause a failure. The next BD-RB version will remove the demuxed video automatically if it isn't used.

[chudm]

Not exactly. That demuxed video is used when the original is small enough to fit without reencoding. So if you remove it without knowing exactly what you're doing you can cause a failure. The next BD-RB version will remove the demuxed video automatically if it isn't used.

the next version of bd-rb its looking better and better man! :D

btw jdobbs, could be possible choose what extras we want to include or not on full backup mode?:rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

the next version of bd-rb its looking better and better man! :D

btw jdobbs, could be possible choose what extras we want to include or not on full backup mode?:rolleyes: Eventually when I add video viewer/selection. But not for a while.

[jdobbs]

Sorry it took so long to get back. I am continuing this as I saw someone else got the same message (GUI error) and I thought what I came up with might help. I also saw your comments with Furious Flea and when new version comes out I will test this on same movie.

OK, since you said my GUI error shouldn't be BDRB, I went to the guide thread and doublechecked everything. The first thing I did was re-download all the tools that go along with BDRB to make sure I had current. (ffdshow, etc) The first thing I noticed was ffdshow version was different - so I went into the version that I had (rev2684) and found out that I had not set any of the settings as laid out in the guide. This was kinda weird, since I have been using BDRB for awhile, I have burned MANY discs, I know I set up the ffdshow when I first started, but yet the settings weren't as I set them. The other thing is that this looks like a newer version than what is on the link (rev2661). I know this happened recently, cuz all my discs have been playing fine after remake. Then I checked the discs working backwards to about a month ago and sure enough, they all say data disc instead of avchd on my PS3. So I changed the version to what was on the link, set the proper settings and tried to redo death race. (As a note, I set the settings on version 2684 and redid death race and did get the GUI error again)On version 2661, I did not get the GUI error, but I did get encode errors. Then I tried Pink Panther 2, full movie, no problem. Then I tried Prestige, movie only, no problem. So I guess, in conclusion I have this:

1. Whats the difference between ffdshow rev 2661 and 2684.
2. Could this (ffdshow rev 2684) be connected in any way to getting GUI error? (cuz when I changed it, I stopped getting the error.
3. Death Race is the most complicated set of files I have ever seen in doing this - it has 72 vids, some MPEG4, some VC-1 and it also has secondary vid within the vid structure.(MPEG 4, 480p instead of 1080) It has AC-3 audio, DTS HD audio and DTS HD XLL audio. Could I be doing something wrong with how I am setting this up cuz it's so complicated?

I know this is a long one and I do appreciate your time and all the hard work you put into this program. I think it is great and I use it ALL the time, it is the only solution I have found that lets me save copies of my discs in the format that I choose (full movie/movie only/BD5,9,25). So thanks for bearing with me.

saphire199 I'm looking at build 2857 as becoming the new recommended standard and am currently testing it. I've found a couple of bugs in 2661 that force some work arounds (especially on small encodes) like the 00254.M2TS on "Day the Earth Stood Still". I'm not sure whether there is a connection yet -- so as of right now I still recommend 2661.

[chudm]

Eventually when I add video viewer/selection. But not for a while.

k :D waiting for the new beta, great job man!

[setarip_old]

@scissors

Hi!It's a 49gig iso and i'm limitted with space, so i ran it through tsmuxer to create a 28gig BD folderForgive my apparent ignorance here but, how do you first convert an original BluRay disc to a 49Gb .ISO image file and then convert the .ISO image file into a 28Gb BluRay folder? And why bother creating the .ISO image file at all?

[Capsbackup]

@scissors

Hi!Forgive my apparent ignorance here but, how do you first convert an original BluRay disc to a 49Gb .ISO image file and then convert the .ISO image file into a 28Gb BluRay folder? And why bother creating the .ISO image file at all?

If using ANYDVD HD, there is not an option, at least that I can find, to rip the movie only. So if you rip the ISO first, then you can strip all extras and audio tracks that you don't want, which is probably where the 28GB BluRay folder comes from.( my guess) :)

[GaPony]

I see your point, but there's no need to bother ripping a movie only to an .iso with AnyDVD. Just let BD-Rebuilder do the "movie only" copy and decide what it needs to get the job done. I'm sure that alot the problems people are having has something to do with them attempting to pre-process the movie, in some form or fashion,before using BD-Rebuilder on it.

I just rip the movie to the HDD with AnyDVD Ripper and run BD-rebuilder and have had great success with nearly 100% of the 225 movies or so, I've done. Granted, I don't do anything fancy like keep the HD audio but my receiver does a good enough job on the AC3 audio.

[jdobbs]

I see your point, but there's no need to bother ripping a movie only to an .iso with AnyDVD. Just let BD-Rebuilder do the "movie only" copy and decide what it needs to get the job done. I'm sure that alot the problems people are having has something to do with them attempting to pre-process the movie, in some form or fashion,before using BD-Rebuilder on it.

I just rip the movie to the HDD with AnyDVD Ripper and run BD-rebuilder and have had great success with nearly 100% of the 225 movies or so, I've done. Granted, I don't do anything fancy like keep the HD audio but my receiver does a good enough job on the AC3 audio.Agree. I've been through this preprocessing goat-rope before with DVD-RB.

Preprocessing = bad
Direct-from-source = good

:)

[jangai]

+1 for a lot of «GUI issue, no hWnd returned» warning message into log...

-Running 'BD-RBV02402.zip' release
-Computer is a 2 x 2,8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon powered
-Computer was not loaded at error time

Hope this helps...

[tekmobile]

Not exactly. That demuxed video is used when the original is small enough to fit without reencoding. So if you remove it without knowing exactly what you're doing you can cause a failure. The next BD-RB version will remove the demuxed video automatically if it isn't used.

Thats what I mean't just bad wording.
The OP was doing the movie down to DVD9 so I highly doubt it would fit uncompressed.

Maybe only demux the raw video if doing BD25 because under normal circumstances the video will always need re-encoding when doing DVD5 or DVD9 unless your doing say just a TV episode from a series

[skylab1]

Does anyone know what this error is error 2202?

[07:44:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:44:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:44:06] RebuildBDFiles() 00076 2202
[08:07:54] - Aborted at user request

it only happen when I try to do full backup, so far this has happen on all BD disc I've tried.
on any version of BD Rebuilder. I never it been able to do a full back yet.

Movie only backup works fine never had it problem.

This error only occur after all the video files are encoded, when BD rebuilder start to rebuilding the
disc file structure then error 2202 occurred.

[GaPony]

I don't have a clue what that error is, but the first thing I'd check is free space, if it only happens with full movies. Just a wild guess. It probably isn't that. :)

[Kakashi Sensei]

@skylab1 - I had that error when i used the 0.24.01 you should upgrade to the current 0.24.02 version and it should fix it. You dont need to restart either, it will rebuild your BD from the previous version.

KS

[jdobbs]

Does anyone know what this error is error 2202?

[07:44:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:44:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:44:06] RebuildBDFiles() 00076 2202
[08:07:54] - Aborted at user request

it only happen when I try to do full backup, so far this has happen on all BD disc I've tried.
on any version of BD Rebuilder. I never it been able to do a full back yet.

Movie only backup works fine never had it problem.

This error only occur after all the video files are encoded, when BD rebuilder start to rebuilding the
disc file structure then error 2202 occurred. It means "path not found" in attempting to copy files from the original disc to the destination. Make sure your source path is still valid.

What version of BD-RB are you using? Always use the most recent.

[jdobbs]

I'm posting this version here in the bug reports bowels rather than in the first post so that it will be only downloaded and used by those actively working bugs. I've made a lot of changes in this version -- and it will likely show a few new bugs. Please post them as you run into them. Be careful with the one-pass encoding... it isn't very accurate yet. It will likely undersize -- but that's purposeful as it is a lot better than an oversize. You can download it from this link. (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV02501.ZIP).

Changes made to this version:
July 8th, 2009 - v0.25.01
- Implemented a one-pass CRF mode. This estimates
the CRF needed for the required size and reencodes
using a single pass. Note that this mode is new
and is experimental -- use for testing only, as it
is possible you may get over/undersizing.
- Added a feature that automatically extracts and
uses all original video streams intact when the
output target is smaller than the selected source.
- Added code to collect and log the TSMUXER error
message when a MUX has failed for some reason.
- Added support for DD+ secondary audio. Now PiP
audio should work (when it is DD+). Note: This
feature is disabled and is in use only for internal
testing.
- Added code to detect and work-around certain types
of demuxing errors.
- Added a hidden switch for help during testing of
the PiP functions. PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 will
enable the PiP processing. If it is set to 0 (the
default value) the secondary video will be ignored.
- Corrected an issue with update of the MPLS when
secondary video tracks are used.
- Added a "HIGH-SPEED" option to the "SETTINGS/ENCODER
SETTINGS" menu. It is visible/recommended for BD-25
encoding only. The quality on BD-5/9 will suffer
greatly if this option is used (via hidden setting).
When used with one-pass CRF mode on BD-25 it can
result in a very fast yet excellent quality backup
of most discs.
- Added AVISYNTH code to limit audio channels to six
(DD 5.1) when reencoding to AC3. This should stop
reencoding failures on 7.1 sources.
- Regressed the version of AFTEN in order to prevent
hangs on some AVS sources.
- Updated NICAUDIO.DLL to r2.03
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Kakashi Sensei]

That brilliant, I know its experimental but I can't wait to test out the 1 pass encoding. Thanks :)

[drmih]

@jdobbs

Can you explain the PiP function. I have a disc and with the default the secondary video is omitted and AUD_005 (2nd) AC3+ is also 'X' out. When I add the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 line, the video is included but the audio is still shown as 'X'. Will this be picked up or is there something else to do?

[tekmobile]

@jdobbs

Can you explain the PiP function. I have a disc and with the default the secondary video is omitted and AUD_005 (2nd) AC3+ is also 'X' out. When I add the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 line, the video is included but the audio is still shown as 'X'. Will this be picked up or is there something else to do?

Added support for DD+ secondary audio. Now PiP
audio should work (when it is DD+). Note: This
feature is disabled and is in use only for internal
testing.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Can you explain the PiP function. I have a disc and with the default the secondary video is omitted and AUD_005 (2nd) AC3+ is also 'X' out. When I add the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 line, the video is included but the audio is still shown as 'X'. Will this be picked up or is there something else to do? I implemented this, but I'm not confident in it yet, so I disabled it just before the post. I didn't want to "stink up the place" with untested code.

[drmih]

Added support for DD+ secondary audio. Now PiP
audio should work (when it is DD+). Note: This
feature is disabled and is in use only for internal
testing.

I was going from the CHANGES.TXT which was with the release rather than the one in the post!

[drmih]

I implemented this, but I'm not confident in it yet, so I disabled it just before the post. I didn't want to "stink up the place" with untested code.

I'd be happy to also test it as I have about 20 discs with PiP which I've put on the back burner waiting for this beta, and have been around here long enough to focus on this one feature, without confusing the mainstream beta reports.

[chudm]

will test this one with batman begins tonight, thx jdobbs!!

[scissors]

@scissors

Hi!Forgive my apparent ignorance here but, how do you first convert an original BluRay disc to a 49Gb .ISO image file and then convert the .ISO image file into a 28Gb BluRay folder? And why bother creating the .ISO image file at all?

I use my ps3 to obtain the iso as I have no blu ray drive for my pc. Google ps3 SAK. I use tsmuxer to create the 28 gig folder. If I had a blu ray writer this would always be my first step to see if the basic streams i want can fit onto a BD.

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Agree. I've been through this preprocessing goat-rope before with DVD-RB.

Preprocessing = bad
Direct-from-source = good

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Hi. With respect. Where I can, I leave alone. As stated space was tight due to the BR source being 49gig. As stated, dropping back to version 2301 cured the problem.

Although I certainly don't want to critise and i have no knowledge at all i would ask you this.

If I take an ISO and run it through tsmuxer to create a BD structure with only the streams I require, how is that so different to the final stage of BD rebuilder which is using the exact same tool to create it's output.

Isn't that like saying if i was given a 25gig BDRom with a movie created by BD rebuilder on it, I should expect the possiblity of problems should i run it through BD rebuilder to create a BD5 or 9 because the "source" is a processed structure and not an origian BD?

Genuine question.

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Yes on both counts. BD-RB is beta software -- which by definition means there are bugs. Why multiply that?

The same is true for preprocessed sources. I feel fairly confident that a bug reported on a commercial source is legitimate. But preprocessing doesn't only have to take into consideration the software in use -- but also the decisions made by the person sitting in front of the computer. Powerful software like TSMUXER and others also give the user a large amount of control --resulting in a high probability of problems.

Here's an example: TSMUXER will let you mux a stream into BD format that is completely outside the BD standard.

I have in the past, and always will refuse to respond to bug reports on preprocessed sources. Why? Because in more than 90% of the cases in my experience that involved preprocessed sources -- the preprocessing was the cause of the error, and I spent way too much time crawling down rabbit holes trying to find an error that didn't exist.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't preprocess for whatever reason you want... I just ask that you not report any issues until you try the same reencode on the original source.