BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[fgm]

Well, I’m glad to report that the latest version solved the problem I reported on May 6th.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1720480#post1720480

Thank you jdobbs

[gogosch]

I have the Problem that I cannot play 3D-AVCHDs on my SAMSUNG F-7500 Player. Message "Disc does not fit specifications".
Other "normal" 3D-discs are shown without problems.
I use the lastest Version of BD-Rebuilder. Inspect shows no problems.
In the stream Directory of the Output there is one mts-file which I can play by VLC or stream to TV, but not in 3D.
I use "movie only backup". FRIM-decode is automatically set by 3D-discs.
Here my Settings:
[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.7
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=70
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
TARGET_SIZE=8032
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
STATUS_LOG=0
ENCODER=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
IGNORE_3D=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
DECODER=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\
WORKING_PATH=E:\AUTHORED\

[worknstiff]

I could be wrong but I don't think you can make AVCHD 3D movies except SBS, and I don't think VLC will play it in 3D either.

[AmigaFuture]

@ JD

"50 Shades of Grey" update.. It wasn't AnyDVD. It is BD-RB. If I uncheck everything to be blanking from Menus & Movie, or with Full Backup don't set anything to be blanked and processed to BD-50 from either THEN Browse for that finished process, and then select Movie Only and select Unrated Playlist then select Intact A/V MKV, the sound is not correct with the movie.

After browsing for the ripped BD directory as Source and go right to Movie Only A/V Intact MKV or have DTS to AC3 active, then A/V play as they should. After having BD-RB process it as BD-25/50...something isn't being kept correctly. This seems to be a ?bug?. I was operating from a saved BD-RB project from Menu & Movie when I first noticed this which is where I noticed the possible bug that I thought was the fault of AnyDVD.

I'm now checking with a default config where only ENABLE_TEST=1 & DGIndexNV are being added.

Update: The Uncut movie is playing well as a BD from Full Backup. More checking..

[Sharc]

I have the Problem that I cannot play 3D-AVCHDs on my SAMSUNG F-7500 Player. Message "Disc does not fit specifications".
Other "normal" 3D-discs are shown without problems.
I use the lastest Version of BD-Rebuilder. Inspect shows no problems.
In the stream Directory of the Output there is one mts-file which I can play by VLC or stream to TV, but not in 3D.
I use "movie only backup". FRIM-decode is automatically set by 3D-discs.
Here my Settings:
[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.7
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=70
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
TARGET_SIZE=8032
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
STATUS_LOG=0
ENCODER=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
IGNORE_3D=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
DECODER=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\
WORKING_PATH=E:\AUTHORED\
You seem to be outputting to BD-9. I have seen Samsung and LG players being very picky on what they accept on BD-5 and BD-9, and only accepting BD25 for 3D.
As an alternative you could try to encode to half SBS and output to mkv. This should work for BD5,9 or streaming directly to TV.

[gogosch]

So I ripped the movie to SBS and AVCHD works.
But the quality (sharpness) is very poor compared to the original, without SBS.
I'm also missing chapter marks.
Could anyone explain that?

@Shark: You're right! I burned the folders "as it is" to a BD-25 and I can play them on my SAMSUNG.
But no chapter marks are available.

[Sharc]

So I ripped the movie to SBS and AVCHD works.
But the quality (sharpness) is very poor compared to the original, without SBS.
I'm also missing chapter marks.
Could anyone explain that?
I would have to disagree. For higher compression I found the half-SBS quality using the x264 encoder significantly better (especially with high motion scenes) than the Intel MVC encoder, despite the reduced resolution.

[jdobbs]

You seem to be outputting to BD-9. I have seen Samsung and LG players being very picky on what they accept on BD-5 and BD-9, and only accepting BD25 for 3D.
As an alternative you could try to encode to half SBS and output to mkv. This should work for BD5,9 or streaming directly to TV.I know my Samsung player won't play 3D from a BD-5/9. I can't say whether others might. I think your player might have to say it supports AVCHD 3D -- but since mine doesn't, I can't say whether that would make it work.

[gogosch]

Does anybody know a BD-player with UHD upscaling who supports AVCHD-3D (BD-5 and BD-9 AVCHD 2.0 specification)?
@jdobbs: Why are chapter marks missing on 3D rips?

[Blurayhd]

Jdobbs a very small donation is on the way, please excuse me, next time I hope my budget let me give you more!! and thank you for everyting!! you know...

[Sharc]

Does anybody know a BD-player with UHD upscaling who supports AVCHD-3D (BD-5 and BD-9 AVCHD 2.0 specification)?
@jdobbs: Why are chapter marks missing on 3D rips?
The chapters are normally kept for 3D in my experience. I think to remember one case only where the chapters were dropped (a Disney edition). I didn't investigate this case further.

[jdobbs]

Does anybody know a BD-player with UHD upscaling who supports AVCHD-3D (BD-5 and BD-9 AVCHD 2.0 specification)?
@jdobbs: Why are chapter marks missing on 3D rips?They aren't in the ones I've done.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs a very small donation is on the way, please excuse me, next time I hope my budget let me give you more!! and thank you for everyting!! you know...Thanks.

[AmigaFuture]

@ JD

50 Shades update: Something I noticed, there hasn't been any sound when I'd preview a VID. You typed before that FFDShow and LAV Filters weren't needed. I only used DGIndexNV because I wanted to test without the other 2. I've not done 'till now.. Now I have FFShow and LAV Filters installed and sound for preview is there. Now I'm testing Full Backup (BD-50). Success and with menu! From it I was able to make an Intact A/V mkv that played the Theatrical & Unrated correctly. Now testing Movie & Menu (BD-50; unchecking all pre-blanked)..

[jdobbs]

Neither FFDSHOW nor LAV is normally used for audio decoding/encoding. For all but odd circumstances BD-RB uses NicAudio() for decoding audio streams. That isn't true, however, for preview -- as at that point, for simplicity, Directshow is used.

[AmigaFuture]

Sound wasn't played in preview until I installed FFDShow. I considered making a video to demonstrate it, but I didn't.

[jdobbs]

That isn't true, however, for preview -- as at that point, for simplicity, Directshow is used.Sound wasn't played in preview until I installed FFDShow. I considered making a video to demonstrate it, but I didn't.Yep. Exactly as I stated. FFDSHOW contains Directshow CODEC drivers.

[Acerjen]

Jdobbs,

A while back you mentioned you bought Star Trek TNG Season 1 and made a 16:9 backup set. If you remember, could you please tell me what settings you used to do that? How well did they turn out? Thanks for your help. Later.


Acerjen

[omegaman7]

Jdobbs,

A while back you mentioned you bought Star Trek TNG Season 1 and made a 16:9 backup set. If you remember, could you please tell me what settings you used to do that? How well did they turn out? Thanks for your help. Later.


Acerjen

Surely you jest. Converting 4:3 to 16:9, would either stretch horizontally, or clip off of the top and or bottom.

Which can be done with most modern TV sets on the fly. I'd prefer to keep my backups just like they are, myself.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs,

A while back you mentioned you bought Star Trek TNG Season 1 and made a 16:9 backup set. If you remember, could you please tell me what settings you used to do that? How well did they turn out? Thanks for your help. Later.


AcerjenSurely you jest. Converting 4:3 to 16:9, would either stretch horizontally, or clip off of the top and or bottom.

Which can be done with most modern TV sets on the fly. I'd prefer to keep my backups just like they are, myself.Yeah I did it. It was a royal pain. Because of the probability of cutting off heads, feet, or losing titles etc. due to the cropping -- I had to set a different top offset for virtually every scene. In fact I wrote some (undocumented) code in BD-RB that let's you read the offsets at different framepoints within a source. :scared: -- please don't ask...

Eventually I decided it was better to just do a slighter widening (and losing less off the top/bottom of the picture) instead of a full 16:9.

[musiclover]

@JD

On the subject of converting 4:3 to 16:9. Have you ever followed up on your plan to add a mode to the presets that could do that conversion for ALTERNATE mode?



It works for full-backup and movie-only backup modes. But, the size of the output in ALTERNATE mode is determined by the preset. So none of the SETUP resizing settings should affect it.

What I might be able to do is add a mode to the presets that does those conversions.

[jdobbs]

I haven't, but I can. In the meantime you can add a filter to do it, and then you can just select (or create) a "NO_RESIZE" preset.

[musiclover]

I haven't, but I can. In the meantime you can add a filter to do it, and then you can just select (or create) a "NO_RESIZE" preset.

Sorry, but I have no idea how to do that.

[Blurayhd]

Hi guys, considering you said me in request post the option to "eliminate" registers of audios and subttitles that I previously eliminate can´t be done I need to ask, if I just pass the movie to a mkv file, and I edit this file with mkvtoolnix and save it again with Bluray disc format is this right? is this the best method? I´ll loss video quality? I mean all this is for eliminate for registers because I have various bluray movies with a lot of languages that I don´t want there but the registers are there

[jdobbs]

Hi guys, considering you said me in request post the option to "eliminate" registers of audios and subttitles that I previously eliminate can´t be done I need to ask, if I just pass the movie to a mkv file, and I edit this file with mkvtoolnix and save it again with Bluray disc format is this right? is this the best method? I´ll loss video quality? I mean all this is for eliminate for registers because I have various bluray movies with a lot of languages that I don´t want there but the registers are thereUnfortunately you're talking in circles -- so I'm not sure how to answer. So I'll try to guess at what you're asking.

You can remove any and all audio and subtitles you want. But if you are doing a full backup, the "references" have to stay. If you do a movie-only backup, there are no references. So if you output to an MKV, and then use the import to get it back... you are doing the exact same thing as a movie-only backup, except adding an unnecessary step to the process.

:confused:

[Blurayhd]

Unfortunately you're talking in circles -- so I'm not sure how to answer. So I'll try to guess at what you're asking.

You can remove any and all audio and subtitles you want. But if you are doing a full backup, the "references" have to stay. If you do a movie-only backup, there are no references. So if you output to an MKV, and then use the import to get it back... you are doing the exact same thing as a movie-only backup, except adding an unnecessary step to the process.

:confused:

Thank you Jdobbs you´re so clear!! I did not know that, you´re amazing!!

I wonder how many users here like to keep the bluray menues or just doesn´t?

[jdobbs]

A movie-only backup doesn't keep menus.

[Blurayhd]

A movie-only backup doesn't keep menus.

Yes I know that Jdobbs I just wanted to ask to others what prefer, encoding with menu or without

[Defcon0]

Is there any chance, BR-RB will work with the destination path on a network drive? I have a NAS and would like to backup to it but I get path-related errors.

[jdobbs]

Is there any chance, BR-RB will work with the destination path on a network drive? I have a NAS and would like to backup to it but I get path-related errors.It should work. I made some changes in the most recent version to support it better:

- Modified file access routines to be more
robust when accessing network shares that
have no drive letter associated with it.

[Defcon0]

Ah, cool. I will give it a try next time :) Big compliment for your great work!!

[jdobbs]

Much appreciated.

[Lathe]

Yes I know that Jdobbs I just wanted to ask to others what prefer, encoding with menu or without

For me personally, if the movie itself is much larger than a BD-25 and if there are a lot of extras, I generally just do Movie Only, and then encode the xtras separately. I don't think I EVER do Movie & Menus... If the total Blu-ray isn't TOO big, then I just do a Full Backup with everything, but usually with 'Fast Encode for Extras'

But, in all cases with Movie Only, I never include the Menus myself...

[Lathe]

Yeah I did it. It was a royal pain. Because of the probability of cutting off heads, feet, or losing titles etc. due to the cropping -- I had to set a different top offset for virtually every scene. In fact I wrote some (undocumented) code in BD-RB that let's you read the offsets at different framepoints within a source. :scared: -- please don't ask...

Eventually I decided it was better to just do a slighter widening (and losing less off the top/bottom of the picture) instead of a full 16:9.

Dude... you are a SERIOUS masochist! :eek:

What I do with special 4x3 shows like that is that I just go with the 1.2x on my Telly and it just chops a bit off the top and bottom and doesn't quite fill up the sides. That sounds sort of like what you did. Heh... it seems that Videophiles ALWAYS scream if ANY information is missing on any of the 4 sides; but, for my taste personally, I'd rather have the proper AR and just lose just a LITTLE information on 2 of the sides. Depending on the source material, of course...

[jdobbs]

Dude... you are a SERIOUS masochist! :eek:

What I do with special 4x3 shows like that is that I just go with the 1.2x on my Telly and it just chops a bit off the top and bottom and doesn't quite fill up the sides. That sounds sort of like what you did. Heh... it seems that Videophiles ALWAYS scream if ANY information is missing on any of the 4 sides; but, for my taste personally, I'd rather have the proper AR and just lose just a LITTLE information on 2 of the sides. Depending on the source material, of course...I guess I'm a little of both. I don't mind creating a backup with the missing information -- but I always keep the original 4:3 as well as an archive (even though it almost never gets watched).

[Sharc]

Yes I know that Jdobbs I just wanted to ask to others what prefer, encoding with menu or without
I can only speak for myself.
- Backups on BD5 or BD9:
Movie only, for the simple reason that my SAMSUNG and LG players don't accept anything else (unlike my old SONY which played almost everything I threw at it).

- Backup on BD25:
I am using all options depending on the source material, with a preference for creating Quick-play menus.

- Backup for NAS, streaming to TV:
Movie only. Output to .mkv. CRF mode.

[DoctorM]

For large discs with a lot of extras I typically do a movie only BD25 and then put the extras on a BD5 with quick menus.
The BD5 needs to be post-processed with MultiAVCHD (no changes, just load and save) to become playable on my Sony BD player.

Less than 20 minutes of extras I'll usually do a full back up to a BD25.

[Blurayhd]

Hi Jdobbs, guys, there´s some option in bd rebuilder when I encode some movie bd50 to bd25, and as you know this movie contains black bars, so is there some option to setting bd rebuilder so I can encode without that black bars? I mean, just like others applications do? I was tried some of that and the result was just great!! when the source is 1920x1080 (and not 1920x800) I can remove that black bars but I want to know if with Bd rebuilder I can do it?

Best regards!!

[jdobbs]

You can do it to an ALTERNATE output but it would violate the BD standard if you tried it to a blu-ray disc.

[Lathe]

You can do it to an ALTERNATE output but it would violate the BD standard if you tried it to a blu-ray disc.

Yes, and that is why I HATE it when I 'come across' ones like that. Encoding the black bars and keeping it IN spec for Blu-ray players really doesn't take up THAT much space. I personally think there is no real need to strip out the black bars and ruin the Blu-ray playability. Just my lowly and wretched opinion...

[Ch3vr0n]

There's not reason to remove them anyway, if the result doesn't match the TV's 16:9 ratio it adds them back in no keep aspect ratio intact.

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[AmigaFuture]

Yes I know that Jdobbs I just wanted to ask to others what prefer, encoding with menu or without

Both and some times what Lathe typed. If forced to keep the trailers and use Full Backup then make MKVs of movie and extras, then use Import after making a background and MAYBE if music isn't rap or something highly repetitive (bleech), use the music.

[terrykuntz]

Today when I tried to run BDRB.exe all I get i System Error. A Microsoft Installer error was encountered. ? I am running Windows 7 64 bit. Do have any idea what can be causing this?

[jdobbs]

Not sure where the error is coming from -- but it's not BD-RB. It doesn't use the Microsoft Installer in any way.

[terrykuntz]

It had something to do with Microsoft Office 2007 uninstaller, I uninstalled Office 2007 and I get the System Error I re-installed it and it works fine. You would think Microsoft would know how to uninstall its own programs!! Makes you want to go back to DOS!!

[jdobbs]

Interesting. Thanks for posting the update.

[g00g]

Hey, I have a problem reencoding in Movie Only mode with DGDecNV when the movie has 2 VIDs and the first VID (Main Movie) is a mpeg4 source and the second VID is a mpeg2 source. The process stops while the GUI shows the message "DGDecNV reindexing" just before reencoding of the second VID should start. There are no crashes of BD-RB, PopUp messages, entries in the log or anything else ... just stop working.
When doing the same reencoding with LAV Filters instead of DGDecNV anything works fine.

[jdobbs]

Hey, I have a problem reencoding in Movie Only mode with DGDecNV when the movie has 2 VIDs and the first VID (Main Movie) is a mpeg4 source and the second VID is a mpeg2 source. The process stops while the GUI shows the message "DGDecNV reindexing" just before reencoding of the second VID should start. There are no crashes of BD-RB, PopUp messages, entries in the log or anything else ... just stop working.
When doing the same reencoding with LAV Filters instead of DGDecNV anything works fine.Can you post the name of the source so I can test it?

Thanks.

[g00g]

Can you post the name of the source so I can test it?

Thanks.

PREDESTINATION and THE SECRET

[jdobbs]

PREDESTINATION and THE SECRETOk. I'll check later today to see if I can find one of those two for testing. In the meantime, could you please post your settings (the contents of BDREBUILDER.INI) so I can make sure I test in the same environment?