BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

Well that message has been there WAY before bdrb had DTS-E capabilities, i doubt its related to it.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=422
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=17653
IMGBurn Version 2.4.3.0 * Release Date: Apr 2, 2009



I doubt BDRB had DTS-express capabilities in april 2009. If i havent misread its working properly on the majority and not on some and atleast odd on PowerDVD sometimes it finds the audio sometimes it doesnt. JDobbs already stated he compared the related files and doesnt see anything different Thanks for the links. I think I know what's up. When I reintegrate the DTS-Express packets I don't modify much (only the arrival timestamp and DTS/PTS values) -- so the flags aren't being modified. I'll look at it. The CPI (Copy Permission Indicator) is the first two bits of each M2TS packet, so it should be easy enough.

I got confused when I saw those messages. There is also a CPI table (Characteristic Point Information) in the CLPI file. Since I modify the CLPI's CPI Table for DTS-Express I assumed it was talking about that one... but that second link clarified it greatly.

I should have known better, the error messages specifically reference "packets". Duh...

:thanks:

[Edit] Nope... I just looked at the packet merging algorithm and I'm clearing the CPI. Hmm...

Oh... and for all you vampires, zombies, pirates, fairy-princesses, mummies, witches, and warlocks out there -- Happy Halloween. Don't forget to hand out good candy. I may be the next trick-or-treater at your door!!

[setarip_old]

@drmih

Hi! We're trying to discover why the PiP functionality isn't working correctly To be more precise, as per jdobbs' request, we should be assisting him in trying to discover why the DTS Express audio (used in conjunction with SOME PIP video), doesn't function properly when played on some standalone players (SONY BDSP 360, for one).

You should note that there are some Blu-ray discs that present PIP Video/Audio without the use of DTS Express audio - "African Cats" is one such example. The simplest, most certain way to determine whether your disc contains DTS Express is to load the decrypted version into BD-RB and scroll through the listed audiostreams...

[Capsbackup]

Oh... and for all you vampires, zombies, pirates, fairy-princesses, mummies, witches, and warlocks out there -- Happy Halloween. Don't forget to hand out good candy. I may be the next trick-or-treater at your door!!

Well we didn't get many trick or treaters this year, but I thought that was you amongst one of the bunches! :p ;)

[drmih]

@drmih

Hi! To be more precise, as per jdobbs' request, we should be assisting him in trying to discover why the DTS Express audio (used in conjunction with SOME PIP video), doesn't function properly when played on some standalone players (SONY BDSP 360, for one).

You should note that there are some Blu-ray discs that present PIP Video/Audio without the use of DTS Express audio - "African Cats" is one such example. The simplest, most certain way to determine whether your disc contains DTS Express is to load the decrypted version into BD-RB and scroll through the listed audiostreams...

Thanks for stating the obvious. Having been inputting to this thread from pretty much the start, I didn't find it necessary to go into the minutiae of details when everyone knew what I meant. In fact, I believe that I was the person who originally flagged up the problem with bd-9 / U-Control Universal discs / DTSX audio issues on Sony players which lead to this in a round about way - but that was early 2009 and I've lost track.

[Ch3vr0n]

Well i've backed up the first 3 fast & furious movies now, all of em have DTS-express movie 2 and 3 so far even have multiple dts-e streams (3rd one even has 4), and u control works just fine here with a full disc backup

[drmih]

Well i've backed up the first 3 fast & furious movies now, all of em have DTS-express movie 2 and 3 so far even have multiple dts-e streams (3rd one even has 4), and u control works just fine here with a full disc backup

What are you playing them on as mine are fine on Panasonic standalones, and using PC players, but nothing else.

[drmih]

Thanks for the links. I think I know what's up. When I reintegrate the DTS-Express packets I don't modify much (only the arrival timestamp and DTS/PTS values) -- so the flags aren't being modified. I'll look at it. The CPI (Copy Permission Indicator) is the first two bits of each M2TS packet, so it should be easy enough.

I got confused when I saw those messages. There is also a CPI table (Characteristic Point Information) in the CLPI file. Since I modify the CLPI's CPI Table for DTS-Express I assumed it was talking about that one... but that second link clarified it greatly.

I should have known better, the error messages specifically reference "packets". Duh...

:thanks:

[Edit] Nope... I just looked at the packet merging algorithm and I'm clearing the CPI. Hmm...

Oh... and for all you vampires, zombies, pirates, fairy-princesses, mummies, witches, and warlocks out there -- Happy Halloween. Don't forget to hand out good candy. I may be the next trick-or-treater at your door!!

I'm still finding every M2TS stream which is re-encoded with PiP is triggering the message. I've just done a disc with multiple M2TS files, but only one containing the movie, and that was the only one which had the flag message.

[Ch3vr0n]

@drmih: Panny DMP-BD85

[jdobbs]

I'm still finding every M2TS stream which is re-encoded with PiP is triggering the message. I've just done a disc with multiple M2TS files, but only one containing the movie, and that was the only one which had the flag message. I've fixed it for the next release. But it really doesn't matter and has no effect on the playback. In fact, as the message indicates, ImgBurn if fixing it (resetting the CPI) during the burn.

[drmih]

I've fixed it for the next release. But it really doesn't matter and has no effect on the playback. In fact, as the message indicates, ImgBurn if fixing it (resetting the CPI) during the burn.

Pity that it wasn't an indicator of anything else. Do you have any thoughts of how we can try and find a trend?

So far we seem to have confirmation:

Standalone:
Panasonics work fine, but have never accepted bd-9
Sony / LG - handle PiP but without secondary audio.

PC Players:
TMT plays all discs fine.

[jdobbs]

Pity that it wasn't an indicator of anything else. Do you have any thoughts of how we can try and find a trend?

So far we seem to have confirmation:

Standalone:
Panasonics work fine, but have never accepted bd-9
Sony / Samsung / LG - handle PiP but without secondary audio.

PC Players:
TMT plays all discs fine. Well I did find a couple of other things (minor, though) while looking for it. So it wasn't entirely unfruitful.

By the way, you mention Samsung in your response. Both of my Samsung standalone players (BDP5500C and BDP5900) handle the PiP perfectly (including audio).

[drmih]

Well I did find a couple of other things (minor, though) while looking for it. So it wasn't entirely unfruitful.

By the way, you mention Samsung in your response. Both of my Samsung standalone players (BDP5500C and BDP5900) handle the PiP perfectly (including audio).

I've got four different Samsungs so I'll check them all as the two I have tested didn't work - they were combined freeview / HDD / blu ray players.

[Ch3vr0n]

That would indicate that drmih's samsung player settings arent configured properly to use the secondairy audio. As i said in a post a few back, i can setup my panny player in a matter of seconds to only show the video and not use the secondairy audio. So there must be a setting in the samsung player (and probably the LG and others too), that has the same effect. If the player isnt configured properly to use the secondairy audio, it wouldn't matter if you selected to display it or not. It's just gonna ignore the audio

[jdobbs]

That would indicate that drmih's samsung player settings arent configured properly to use the secondairy audio. As i said in a post a few back, i can setup my panny player in a matter of seconds to only show the video and not use the secondairy audio. So there must be a setting in the samsung player (and probably the LG and others too), that has the same effect. If the player isnt configured properly to use the secondairy audio, it wouldn't matter if you selected to display it or not. It's just gonna ignore the audio You definitely have to set "Mixed Output" to "On" on the Samsungs to get PiP Secondary audio.

[drmih]

You definitely have to set "Mixed Output" to "On" on the Samsungs to get PiP Secondary audio.

I have checked and get the following:

Samsung BD-5900 / Samsung BD-C6500 - work fine
Samsung BD-C8200 / Samsung BD-D8500 (both HDD/Freeview/Blu-ray) - No secondary audio heard.

I can't see any obvious difference in settings but if anyone has had joy with one of the ones I haven't, let me know the settings.

As I understand it, if you are taking a hdmi to a panel, then it should work fine out of the box - the mixing settings are more to do with the optical output to the amp.

[Ch3vr0n]

output device is irrelevant. My player is hooked up to my TV with HDMI, the TV is hooked up via fiberoptic cable to my logitech Z-5500. That means my player feeds the audio to the Tv, the tv forwards it to the surround system. The pip audio works just fine, straight off the disc. If i play a disc and active the pip stream on it, the audio plays directly. Temporarily disable it and the main audio instantly takes over, activate the pip again and the pip audio takes back over. So it would seem that either your C8200 and D8500 just don't like the pip streams or your settings are off

Try this drmih: http://samsungplasmatvfaq.com/index.php/PIP#Activating_PIP

I can't confirm this samsung guide as i only have 1 player and thats my panasonic

[drmih]

Thanks but that's information regarding the PiP functionality of the TV rather than the blu-ray. I'll have another check of the two samsungs that don't work.

[BobFloyd]

I'm pretty sure I know what's causing it. It's a condition of the User Operations masking that makes BD Rebuilder think the feature is a menu. A dumb mistake on my part, luckily it is very rare. I've fixed it for the next release.
Excellent, will look forward to that! Amazing work, just amazing.

[jdobbs]

Yes, is Robin Hood (the one with Russell Crown), contains theatrical and director's cut using multiangles and has a PiP containing interviews with Ridley Scott, more specifically is the G52 edition (for Latin America and Eastern Europe) with 10 audio tracks and 25 subtitles. The US release is similar in specs but with only 4 audio tracks and 6 subtitles.

I'm using ImgBurn 2.5.6.0 with "Reset 'Copy Permission Indicator' Flag" checked, I will burn the disc without to see if anything changes. I'm looking at the US version of this disc. No PiP or secondary audio at all.

[SquallMX]

I'm looking at the US version of this disc. No PiP or secondary audio at all.

Weird acording to the High Def Digest review:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3415/robinhood_2010.html

Director's Notebook — This is essentially a bonus view feature available only on the Theatrical Version of 'Robin Hood.' While watching the film, the screen suddenly moves and allows behind-the-scenes footage to play alongside the movie in a smaller window. We are also privy to Ridley Scott's hand-drawn concepts, called "Ridleygrams," and interviews with the filmmakers. Viewers are allowed to click on "Jump to Gallery," where we can look at the same stills collected in "The Art of Nottingham" separately.

Maybe the US version use a totally different video track for the Bonus View instead of using PiP?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs I'm looking at the US version of this disc. No PiP or secondary audio at all. Same for me.

IIRC (and that's a BIG "IF"), there were several different U.S. versions available...

[Capsbackup]

I'm looking at the US version of this disc. No PiP or secondary audio at all.

I have the Unrated Director's Cut, which has 2 versions: the unrated directors cut & theatrical version. This one does have the Directors Notebook, which does seem like a PiP, but it is a multi-angle/multi-m2ts to create the PiP effect. There is no secondary audio, only the DTS-HD Master. :cool:

[SquallMX]

I have the Unrated Director's Cut, which has 2 versions: the unrated directors cut & theatrical version. This one does have the Directors Notebook, which does seem like a PiP, but it is a multi-angle/multi-m2ts to create the PiP effect. There is no secondary audio, only the DTS-HD Master. :cool:

Interesting, so the Universal release is different than the international one. I will try a US disc, if I recall correctly Green Lantern has both multi-angle and PiP :thanks:.

[jfcarbel]

Problem with Rob Roy R1, on movie and menu only, when tested the menu text comes up and is functional but the background image is missing. The movie menu background image appears to be in 00941.m2ts

This title uses a static background, that is, their is no moving video.

In the logs it is showing the blanking of video 00941 for movies and menus only mode.

I tried to use BDInfo to see what playlist is using 00941. But BDInfo is only showing about 10 playlists while the playlists folder on disc is showing many more. Is there a reason BDInfo is not showing all the playlists?

I tried copying the 00941.m2ts file and its clipinf file to the backup and it did not work and caused issues. Is there a way to add the files it needs back in without redoing the whole backup?

[MILLZY]

Problem with Rob Roy R1, on movie and menu only, when tested the menu text comes up and is functional but the background image is missing. The movie menu background image appears to be in 00941.m2ts

This title uses a static background, that is, their is no moving video.

In the logs it is showing the blanking of video 00941 for movies and menus only mode.

I tried to use BDInfo to see what playlist is using 00941. But BDInfo is only showing about 10 playlists while the playlists folder on disc is showing many more. Is there a reason BDInfo is not showing all the playlists?

I tried copying the 00941.m2ts file and its clipinf file to the backup and it did not work and caused issues. Is there a way to add the files it needs back in without redoing the whole backup?

I have come across the same problem, but my question went unanswered. It would be nice to find out what the problem is :D

[jfcarbel]

I have come across the same problem, but my question went unanswered. It would be nice to find out what the problem is :D

Yep, I have had other titles also. Premonition R1 is another, while that one had a moving menu missing as background. But in all cases the menu is still functional.
I redid Premonition as Full Backup and in this case the menus did work. So it only seems an issue with movies and menu mode.

How about yours, was the menu still functional?

I am curious as to how Bluray handles first play, that is, what determines what streams display first and which ones are the menu. BDInfo is not showing all playlists so not sure how to dig deeper.

[MILLZY]

Yep, I have had other titles also. Premonition R1 is another, while that one had a moving menu missing as background. But in all cases the menu is still functional.
I redid Premonition as Full Backup and in this case the menus did work. So it only seems an issue with movies and menu mode.

How about yours, was the menu still functional?

I am curious as to how Bluray handles first play, that is, what determines what streams display first and which ones are the menu. BDInfo is not showing all playlists so not sure how to dig deeper.

The menu bar was still functional but no animation in the background.

[jdobbs]

I have come across the same problem, but my question went unanswered. It would be nice to find out what the problem is :D Seems obvious (to me anyway) that the background animation or backdrop was blanked. BD-RB is pretty good at identifying menus -- but it's not perfect yet. Sometimes (especially when the action is controlled via BD-J) it isn't obvious.

Just find the background that's been blanked and unblank it.

[MILLZY]

Seems obvious (to me anyway) that the background animation or backdrop was blanked. BD-RB is pretty good at identifying menus -- but it's not perfect yet. Sometimes (especially when the action is controlled via BD-J) it isn't obvious.

Just find the background that's been blanked and unblank it.

Sorry to be a total noob but how would achieve that?
Be gentle....

[jdobbs]

Sorry to be a total noob but how would achieve that?
Be gentle....

Well, I did explain it in the same post as the one that says how to enable the "Movie-and-Menus" test. But here it is again... double click on the title (in the streams list) and you'll see "Edit Mode" appear. You can then right click on any stream and blank/unblank its playlist (which may include other streams). You can also preview it (to see if it is the right stream) by selecting "Preview" (rather than blank/unblank). The ones that have been preselected to be blanked by "Movie-and-Menus" will be "grayed out" in the list.

[jfcarbel]

Well, I did explain it in the same post as the one that says how to enable the "Movie-and-Menus" test. But here it is again... double click on the title (in the streams list) and you'll see "Edit Mode" appear. You can then right click on any stream and blank/unblank its playlist (which may include other streams). You can also preview it (to see if it is the right stream) by selecting "Preview" (rather than blank/unblank). The ones that have been preselected to be blanked by "Movie-and-Menus" will be "grayed out" in the list.

I was aware of what you meant by unblanking it. However, in this case it would mean another 6-7 hour rencode as well for the main movie stream.

What are the options to avoid that? That is, is there a way to just copy some files from the original source to get it working?
For me, I tried the stream and its clipinf file, but not sure if I am missing something else.

[jdobbs]

I was aware of what you meant by unblanking it. However, in this case it would mean another 6-7 hour rencode as well for the main movie stream.

What are the options to avoid that? That is, is there a way to just copy some files from the original source to get it working?
For me, I tried the stream and its clipinf file, but not sure if I am missing something else.

C'mon. I explained very clearly that the movie-and-menus mode wasn't "ready for primetime" -- that's why it's disabled except for those who read this thread and want to test it. You apparently decided to test it, assumedly knowing it needs more work -- but now are complaining because it isn't perfect yet?

I'm a little disappointed. My hope would be that the folks who decided to test it would "help out" by reporting their experiences -- but have a little patience, as this isn't an easy task in blu-ray.

You typically can't just "copy files" because there can be interconnections between CLPI/M2TS sets via MPLS references. All three have to be updated accordingly.

[MILLZY]

C'mon. I explained very clearly that the movie-and-menus mode wasn't "ready for primetime" -- that's why it's disabled except for those who read this thread and want to test it. You apparently decided to test it, assumedly knowing it needs more work -- but now are complaining because it isn't perfect yet?

I'm a little disappointed. My hope would be that the folks who decided to test it would "help out" by reporting their experiences -- but have a little patience, as this isn't an easy task in blu-ray.

You typically can't just "copy files" because there can be interconnections between CLPI/M2TS sets via MPLS references. All three have to be updated accordingly.

If you go back a few posts jdobbs you would see that i was reporting my experiences with the movie and menu mode and my question wasnt answered,and my question in no way was a complaint.
I do understand the complexities of a BD structure and i know how hard it must be to navigate, and you are doing a cracker job with no complaints from me.

[jfcarbel]

C'mon. I explained very clearly that the movie-and-menus mode wasn't "ready for primetime" -- that's why it's disabled except for those who read this thread and want to test it. You apparently decided to test it, assumedly knowing it needs more work -- but now are complaining because it isn't perfect yet?

I'm a little disappointed. My hope would be that the folks who decided to test it would "help out" by reporting their experiences -- but have a little patience, as this isn't an easy task in blu-ray.

You typically can't just "copy files" because there can be interconnections between CLPI/M2TS sets via MPLS references. All three have to be updated accordingly.

I was reporting my experience, but in no way was complaining.
In fact I wanted to dig deeper to see if I could assist more but I lack understanding of how bluray handles first play and menus.

I do know this feature is not ready for prime time and if a file copy workaround is available I have no problem doing that when issues occur until its resolved. But it looks like this is alot more complex then I thought so that would not be an option. I would like to dig into the internals more to see how its all interconnected, but it seems BDInfo is not a tool that would be able to aid in this. Are there other tools I can look at for exploring a bluray discs structure and organization?

If there is anymore info I can provide to aid in diagnosing the issue then please let me know. I am one of those who also donates multiple times, so I don't take your work for granted and I think while the blanking and movies and menu is not ready for primetime, its working pretty darn good already.

[jdobbs]

Your support is greatly appreciated.

[MILLZY]

Your support is greatly appreciated.

I think you need a holiday mate or a good old old fashioned drinking bender to clear your head and chill for a while.
I think you need a break from all this, its not going to be the end of the world if you take a break for a while....
Not trying to be full of it by the way.
Just a little bit of concern thats all.....

[Capsbackup]

I tried to use BDInfo to see what playlist is using 00941. But BDInfo is only showing about 10 playlists while the playlists folder on disc is showing many more. Is there a reason BDInfo is not showing all the playlists?


If you click on "Settings" at the bottom in BDInfo, and check "Filter Playlists With Length <" and put 1 sec., that is the best you can get. ;)

[jfcarbel]

If you click on "Settings" at the bottom in BDInfo, and check "Filter Playlists With Length <" and put 1 sec., that is the best you can get. ;)

Yep, that showed more playlists, oddly the 00941 stream was in none shown. Since its a static background, I bet the stream is even less then 1 second possibly. Unless it can be used just by BD-Java without a playlist.

Perhaps that's the issue is that BD-Java static streams with just a still image are not caught. Not sure if this is going to be something BD-Rebuilder would be able to catch.

Perhaps this means if we see a bd-java title to make sure to check all the extremely short streams via edit mode. But, I think we cannot go by filesize. While this file was bigger then most short streams in size, its video duration was only 750ms.
So perhaps it might also be useful in Bd-Rebuilder to list the duration of the video stream.

MILLZY- prehaps you can list the info on that stream that held the static background image for your backup

Here is some info on the stream:

General
ID : 0
Complete name : T:\BD_Rips\ROB_ROY\BDMV\STREAM\00941.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 3.98 MiB
Duration : 1s 440ms
Overall bit rate : 21.7 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : N=1
Duration : 750ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.805
Stream size : 3.58 MiB (90%)

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have not had much success with using the blank feature to blank warnings. For me, they don't show up in BD-RB. :confused: As jfcarbel states, some streams are not shown.
Alternately, if I open the original Blu-ray or the BD-RB backup with multiAVCHD in re-author mode, every mpls/m2ts is visible.
Of course with this option to blank anything does bring about potentially more problems, but with a little practice I have had success. :)

[sfcav]

I've seen several comments in various posts on PredictAndEncode errors, but not the one I'm getting.

I have a captured mpg file that plays fine and is clean by TSDoctor, but when I try to shrink it with BD-RB I get the above error as soon as Reencoding starts. I've tested two RB versions (0.39.01 and 0.39.02) and get the same error. I've successfully used BD-RB with similar files in the past so why it's happening now is a mystery (at least to me).

:confused:
Thoughts?

Here's the INF file:

[Status]
LABEL=AVCHD
VERSION=v0.39.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4469588616
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4469495808
TARGET_SIZE=1258291200
REDUCTION=.281507902915568
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0

-------------------------------------

Here's the log file:

[14:34:29] BD Rebuilder v0.39.02 (beta)
- Source: AVCHD
- Input BD size: 4.16 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:42:26.725]
- Target BD size: 1.17 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:34:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:34:30] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14:34:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Extracting video streams [VID_00000]
- Extracting audio streams [VID_00000]
- [14:38:10] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [14:38:10] PredictAndEncode() 00006 2803
[14:52:27] - Aborted by user request

[By-Tor]

hi jdobbs,
hope you can help, I have started to have problems playing bd25 full back ups of the last 5 films i've backed up using v0.39.02. In that proir to using this version i've had no
trouble playing my back ups, but since using this update none of my back ups play on my LG bd370 ? but will play on my samsung bd1400 and my panasonic portable player
I'm using same settings as always and same media, this media from same packet works no problem on the LG bd370 using v0.39.01, any idea's as the LG is my main unit i use
films backed up are
salt
fantastic mr fox
knowing
and
battlestar galactica disc's 1 and 2 of the complete series
all data looks fine but LG does not like any more ?

[By-Tor]

original disc's play fine in LG bd370

[jdobbs]

hi jdobbs,
hope you can help, I have started to have problems playing bd25 full back ups of the last 5 films i've backed up using v0.39.02. In that proir to using this version i've had no
trouble playing my back ups, but since using this update none of my back ups play on my LG bd370 ? but will play on my samsung bd1400 and my panasonic portable player
I'm using same settings as always and same media, this media from same packet works no problem on the LG bd370 using v0.39.01, any idea's as the LG is my main unit i use
films backed up are
salt
fantastic mr fox
knowing
and
battlestar galactica disc's 1 and 2 of the complete series
all data looks fine but LG does not like any more ?Uninstall/reinstall BD-RB and all components. Unless you have enabled the DTSX_ENABLE option, nothing has changed that could cause your issues. If you have DTSX_ENABLE set, turn it off. It is for testing only.

[By-Tor]

Uninstall/reinstall BD-RB and all components. Unless you have enabled the DTSX_ENABLE option, nothing has changed that could cause your issues. If you have DTSX_ENABLE set, turn it off. It is for testing only.




thanx for quick reply will check later when encode finishes :D

[1Bullet]

with version 0.39.02 just started noticing the following as well.
My last 2 Blu ray rip are slightly larger than a standard single layer BD disc. So I use BD rebuilder to resize ( I have changed the name of the label).

This film had only one video and one audio DTS MA 5.1 and no subtitles after my rip. I have my BD-RB audio setting boxes first 2 and the last one checked in BD rebulder (in short BD rebuilder is to leave audio alone ?)
So if the video was not reencoded and the audio was not renecode. How did the move shrink 1.3 gb. and notuse the X264 encoder?
I have seen this now twice with this version, but I have not watched them yet.

[Status]
LABEL=XXXXXXXXX
VERSION=v0.39.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=25546303488
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25546303488
TARGET_SIZE=24222105600
REDUCTION=.948164794620011
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24222105600
USE_ORIGINAL=1
NSTART=27000000
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[20:46:12] BD Rebuilder v0.39.02 (beta)
- Source: xxxxxxx
- Input BD size: 23.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:21.109]
- Target BD size: 22.56 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:46:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:46:13] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [20:46:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:01:57] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [21:01:57] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [21:01:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:01:57] Multiplexing M2TS
[21:16:40]PHASE ONE complete
[21:16:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:16:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[21:31:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[21:31:47]JOB: xxxxxx finished.

My answer is probably going to come from demuxing both the video and then audio track on the orginal file and the completed BD rebuilder file, as something became smaller.

[jdobbs]

I guess I don't see the issue. The log shows that the video and audio both were kept intact. So the process happened as it should. It's likely there was something else in the source M2TS other than just the audio/video you saw. It's easy to put in NUL packets or an unreferenced audio track (for example) if someone wanted to make the M2TS a little larger and force dual layer.

Bottom line: The log shows BD-RB did exactly as it should. After it demuxed what was requested it saw that no reencoding was necessary, and it didn't reencode.

[1Bullet]

I guess I don't see the issue. The log shows that the video and audio both were kept intact. So the process happened as it should. It's likely there was something else in the source M2TS other than just the audio/video you saw. It's easy to put in NUL packets or an unreferenced audio track (for example) if someone wanted to make the M2TS a little larger and force dual layer.

Bottom line: The log shows BD-RB did exactly as it should. After it demuxed what was requested it saw that no reencoding was necessary, and it didn't reencode.

You are right demuxed both audio from the orginal and BD-RD and same size. My first thoughts were BR-RB was encoding the Audio track. Unfortunatly I have never come across the null packets until this build.

[jdobbs]

You are right demuxed both audio from the orginal and BD-RD and same size. My first thoughts were BR-RB was encoding the Audio track. The log shows less than a second in the audio encoding phase, indicating it had to have kept the original.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version of BD-RB (v0.39.03). Changes for this release:- Corrected an issue in which under certain rare
circumstances a main feature could be seen as
a menu -- and the feature may not be listed in
the streams list on BD-25 or unwanted audio may
not be removable.
- Corrected an error in experimental DTSX code
that could cause M2TS files to not fall on
proper aligned unit boundaries.
- Updated CLPI correction routine to modify the
TS_recording_rate value after updates to the
M2TS by experimental DTSX code.
- Fixed an issue related to arrival_time_stamp
rollover that incorreclty set permission bits
in packet headers (DTSX experimental code).
- Added a SETUP option to cause an audible "beep"
when a job is complete.
- Added a feature in which batch mode will not
overwrite existing output folders, but instead
add a suffix to the output title.
- Added a new AUTO_TWOPASSONLY hidden option. By
setting this value to "1" you can prevent the
automatic quality selector from ever doing one
pass ABR encoding.
- Regressed the included version of X264.EXE to
a previous release (r2085) due to reported LAVF
decoding issues.
- Regressed the included version of X264-64.EXE to
a previous release (r2085) due to reported LAVF
decoding issues.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Ch3vr0n]

Sweet to see my "audio tune" request to be implemented ^^

** Edit ** wanted to test the new version so i ran the Mamma Mia disc (that was previously rebuilt with the glitchy x264). When previewing stream 00124 (that was auto selected to be blanked) the following error occured

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7302/bdrberror.png

Is it because the source file is mpeg2