BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MR.WaynesWorld]

You'll need to disable h264\avc decoding in ffdshow so it uses another directshow filter. You can load the m2ts into graphstudio to figure out which filter its using. The problem is with some of the 480i clips, I can't remember offhand which. ffdshow isn't very robust at handling interlaced h264/VC-1 streams and when you come across these it's always safer to use an alternative. I've found these to work the best on interlaced streams if you have to use directshow.
for AVC, CoreAVC (may cause some artifacts on some recent 'non-compliant' retail blurays)
for VC1, WMVideo DMO 9 (part of wmp11)
for MPEG2, Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 (shareware) another alternative is ffdshow libmpeg2, it's decoded streams libavcodec couldn't

What has handled the widest variety of streams for me are DGAVC, DGVC1 (unfortunately requires a newer nvidia card), DGMpeg2. But these aren't currently supported by BD-RB

I haven't come across or seen reports of any progressive streams failing to decode by ffdshow's libavcodec.

Well I tried this solution and I must have done something wrong because I got a different problem. No x264.exe error but was hun at 20 frames and multiple Hali icons appearing and going away.

[Custom_VCD]

I had the same error with two different movies. Dances with Wolves European Version and Me Myself and Irene, as the encoding was finishing I got an aften.exe stopped responding error. Im running windows 7 beta, was curious if you had any thoughts. I would like to donate too, i was one of the first beta testers for you on the original rebuilder project

[turbojet]

Well I tried this solution and I must have done something wrong because I got a different problem. No x264.exe error but was hun at 20 frames and multiple Hali icons appearing and going away.

Did BD-RB finish without errors?

The haali icon will popup on every new stream. I've seen it 'stick' in the tray at times, hover the mouse over it and it disappears.

PS ffdshow build 2600 has fixed the 2 interlaced type clips I had, one was avc, other was mpeg2 (which decodes with libavcodec correctly, but not libmpeg2)

[MikeyBK]

Death Wish movie only played havoc on BD-RB. It is a multiple-m2ts movie Bluray and when the encoding started it pulled up an endless amount of FFDShow and Matroska instances... if I let it keep going, who knows how many instances there would've been. It already pulled up nearly 30 instances of both before I aborted. Not sure if this would also be the case if I did full disc as well...

I'll be joining all the movie m2ts files together using TSSplitter, then will load it onto BD-RB.

Not sure if this info helps you any JD, but let me know if you need me to try something else or do it another way...

[zakia]

hi,

I rebuild a bd movie yesterday to a BD25 and I ran out of disk! :eek: The files in "WORKFILES" folder seems to be ok, the .264 is 21GB but the resulting m2ts is only 9GB I'm guessing due to insufficient disk space.

How do I combine the WORKFILES to make a blu-ray?? I don't wanna start over and wait another 10 hours... help... thanks.

[MR.WaynesWorld]

Well I downloaded FFDshow rev. 2602 and I'm currently doing X Files - I Want to Believe. So far so good. Have a bunch of ffdshow and haali icons but it is still moving along. Almost 22 fps and it's done over 25,000 frames right now. Guess i'll see when the process if complete... Let's hope its good...

[MR.WaynesWorld]

Hung at almost 25% done.... Back to research again....

[shamoo]

ok you might laugh buy here goes anyway. i have downloaded all that was required, but every time i choose the source file it comes up with "selected source is not BD format" i used anyDVDhd to rip to my hd that didn't work, then i used tsmuxer deleted what i didn't want and outputeed as "blu-ray disk"
ALSO in settings in the target size, does this reflect the quality of the film?

[jwgallardo]

Well, I came back home and I tested the backup of "Shining" with the Denon BD-3800. Everything is working except for the video showing just a back screen.

Backup:
Shining: DVD-5 / DVD+R / Movie Only / AC3 audio 448kbps / Spanish subtitles

It worked in the PS3 using the composite out (HDMI out not tested).

Now it is not working on BD-3800 using HDMI out. I will test other video outputs (composite / component). Everything else is working: audio, subtitles and recognized as BD disc in BD-3800. I checked with the original movie and works ok. Maybe, like the problem with Full Movie PS3, there is an issue recognizing that a DVD-5 disc may contain a BD movie?

[MikeyBK]

ok you might laugh buy here goes anyway. i have downloaded all that was required, but every time i choose the source file it comes up with "selected source is not BD format" i used anyDVDhd to rip to my hd that didn't work, then i used tsmuxer deleted what i didn't want and outputeed as "blu-ray disk"
ALSO in settings in the target size, does this reflect the quality of the film?


Choose the movie title folder and not the BDMV or Stream. Yes, target size means what output size you'd want... so if you plan to put it onto a BD-R > choose BD-25

[shamoo]

lol it worked, i thought i tired that to be honest oops! thanks.
i do have 1 question, why are people "shrinking" the movie like the dark night to a dl dvd, surely this will hamper the picture quality? i cant understand the point of having a blu-ray home system just to lower the pic quality? or am i missing something?
also, if i DID put a movie onto a DL DVD will it play in a normal dvd player as blu-ray quality or only in a blu-ray player as its a blu ray format?
watch this space i'm sure i'll have more questions lol

[MikeyBK]

lol it worked, i thought i tired that to be honest oops! thanks.
i do have 1 question, why are people "shrinking" the movie like the dark night to a dl dvd, surely this will hamper the picture quality? i cant understand the point of having a blu-ray home system just to lower the pic quality? or am i missing something?
also, if i DID put a movie onto a DL DVD will it play in a normal dvd player as blu-ray quality or only in a blu-ray player as its a blu ray format?
watch this space i'm sure i'll have more questions lol

The whole idea of BD-RB is that it will retain virtually all of the picture quality even when reduced in size to a BD-9. You will have to see it with your own eyes to understand....

However, jdobbs specifically asks that this thread be for BD-RB bug reporting, so I'm sure he'd appreciate if you were to open another thread with your further questions about BD-RB...cheers

Edit: perhaps the Mods can move shamoo's posts into a thread of it's own?

[shamoo]

ok it worked but as it started an error came up.
"run time error 76 path not found"
any idea's?

also in the set up, it has a option to tick "colour boost (10%)"
is this worth ticking to boost the pic quality?

[datman]

I just did "A Room with a view" took 20 hours and had no audio. I usually work from my remuxed files and not the discs (to save mileage on my drive) I always choose the best audio option on this film it was DTS-HD. I guess the big red X under the audio tab means no DTS-HD conversion at this time or is the a setting I can change.:thanks:

[datman]

I just did "A Room with a view" took 20 hours and had no audio. I usually work from my remuxed files and not the discs (to save mileage on my drive) I always choose the best audio option on this film it was DTS-HD. I guess the big red X under the audio tab means no DTS-HD conversion at this time or is the a setting I can change.:thanks:


no BDRB does convert dts-hd. I pulled up another film and it will work. perhaps it was because I coverted it to a BD file from the HD-DVD rip and the saved audio is 3018Kbps.

[MikeyBK]

ok it worked but as it started an error came up.
"run time error 76 path not found"
any idea's?

also in the set up, it has a option to tick "colour boost (10%)"
is this worth ticking to boost the pic quality?
Did you set the working path to output to?

I just did "A Room with a view" took 20 hours and had no audio. I usually work from my remuxed files and not the discs (to save mileage on my drive) I always choose the best audio option on this film it was DTS-HD. I guess the big red X under the audio tab means no DTS-HD conversion at this time or is the a setting I can change.:thanks:

Double click on that red X

[mech61]

Just tried Starship_Troopers_AUS again and got the same error as before, see attached pictures.

http://www.users.on.net/~mech61/1.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~mech61/error.3.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~mech61/error.4.jpg

its full backup to dvd9.

[Ryu77]

I am not sure what has already been mentioned yet (please excuse me for not having the time to read back 26 pages) but I just completed a test recode.

My target was to BD-25 as I wanted to test the prospect of burning to Blu-ray discs in the future.

My test backup was The Dark Knight.

- First bug: I selected the TrueHD track and also the regular Dolby Digital track to keep. I also ticked the box "Do not reencode AC3". However, the end result was that I got two Dolby Digital tracks at 640kbs. Is there a way to keep the TrueHD track?

- Second bug: All the chapters were off by a gradually larger amount, and because of this BD RB seems to have dropped some. There were 40 chapter available in the original and only 31 available after the re-authoring.


Otherwise, thank you for what looks to be a very promising application. :-)

Edit: I just realised that that the checkbox states "Do not reencode AC3" not "Do not reencode Dolby TrueHD" like the "I can not read properly Fairy" made me think! My apologies.

[kevinm207]

I would like to report that I have successfully backed up The Dark Knight (movie only) to DVD5. JDobbs, thanks for a great product!

I do have three questions.
1) I have some artifacts during heavy actions scenes; is this simply because it's such a long, action packed movie? In other words would burning to DVD9 fix this problem?
2) Does the PS3 not play "full" backups? I haven't tried one yet, but I was reading some earlier posts. If so, that's sad; it's touted as the best Blu-ray player.
3) The project, from start to finish (after the ripping of course), only took 3:44! Is that normal? I'm running a Core 2 Quad (Q6600) overclocked to 3.6GHz on Windows 7 Beta. Seriously, I'm not complaining, when I was fiddling around with a "full" backup (not overclocked - 2.4GHz) in Windows XP it took like 20+ hours if I remember right. I ended up loosing that project during the reformat. Anyhow, is this kudos to 3.6GHz quad, Windows 7, or both?

It's certainly kudos to JDobbs! Thanks again!!!

[kevinm207]

Ok, I spoke too soon. The movie played fine (minus the artifacts) right up to the 17 minute mark, and then the video stopped, but the audio continued. Where could I begin on troubleshooting such a problems? Any ideas/suggestions?

Windows 7 64-bit
AVISynth - 2.58
FFDShow - rev2609_20090110_clsid_x64
Haali Matroska Splitter - 1.9.42.1

[MikeyBK]

Ok, I spoke too soon. The movie played fine (minus the artifacts) right up to the 17 minute mark, and then the video stopped, but the audio continued. Where could I begin on troubleshooting such a problems? Any ideas/suggestions?

Windows 7 64-bit
AVISynth - 2.58
FFDShow - rev2609_20090110_clsid_x64
Haali Matroska Splitter - 1.9.42.1

Windows 7 64-bit... less than 4 hours for this title is possible for your Quad Core, but how stable is the Windows 7 ??.... especially since it took less than 2/3rd of the time as some more potent QuadCore OCed systems.

BTW, Dark Knight to BD-9 looks incredible on my 42" Phillips, took my Core2Duo OC'ed @ 3.2GHz around 8 hours... on XP Pro

[Jake802]

Hey guys! I used BD on The Incredible Hulk, everything worked after 3 days, except when I went to burn it said there wasnt enough room on the disc? Did full disc. Disc is LG BD-RE. Any ideas as to why this would happen?

[MikeyBK]

Death Wish movie only played havoc on BD-RB. It is a multiple-m2ts movie Bluray and when the encoding started it pulled up an endless amount of FFDShow and Matroska instances... if I let it keep going, who knows how many instances there would've been. It already pulled up nearly 30 instances of both before I aborted. Not sure if this would also be the case if I did full disc as well...

I'll be joining all the movie m2ts files together using TSSplitter, then will load it onto BD-RB.

Not sure if this info helps you any JD, but let me know if you need me to try something else or do it another way...
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1235684&postcount=504

Well since BD-RB had issues with Death Race's multiple m2ts seamless branching main movie playlist, as mentioned in my earlier post, I'm guessing that BD-RB cannot do these Blurays with main-movies that have multiple-m2ts... guess this is a bug of sorts, unless there are some members who got BD-RB to function correctly with similar Blurays?

I used TSSplitter to join all the multiple m2ts files on the main movie playlist, and then had to run it thru TSRemux to create a single seamless m2ts file.... it is now running smoothly thru BD-RB.

So Death Race and similar Blurays must be run thru TSSplitter and TSRemux in order to work thru BD-RB movie/only mode.... am I correct? Anyone tried Rattatoullie?

[jdobbs]

It's supposed to handle seamless branching ok... can you give me some details as to what, exactly, isn't working? I looked at your post. When making a movie-only version of a seamless branching title, BD-RB creates an AVS file that concatenates all the separate parts (.M2TS sources) into a single stream. That would probably explain all the multiple occurances of FFDSHOW/Matroska... what happens if you let it run?

[pan07]

Just tried Starship_Troopers_AUS again and got the same error as before, see attached pictures.

http://www.users.on.net/~mech61/1.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~mech61/error.3.jpg

http://www.users.on.net/~mech61/error.4.jpg

its full backup to dvd9.

getting the exact same error with sin city trying to backup to bd25 full movie, done the dark knight previously with no problems

[MikeyBK]

Death Wish movie only played havoc on BD-RB. It is a multiple-m2ts movie Bluray and when the encoding started it pulled up an endless amount of FFDShow and Matroska instances... if I let it keep going, who knows how many instances there would've been. It already pulled up nearly 30 instances of both before I aborted. Not sure if this would also be the case if I did full disc as well...

I'll be joining all the movie m2ts files together using TSSplitter, then will load it onto BD-RB.

Not sure if this info helps you any JD, but let me know if you need me to try something else or do it another way...

It's supposed to handle seamless branching ok... can you give me some details as to what, exactly, isn't working? I looked at your post. BD-RB creates and AVS file that concatenates all the separate parts into a single stream. That would probably explain all the occurances of FFDSHOW... what happens if you let it run?

As I mentioned in that earlier post, an endless amount of ffdshow and matroska instances kept popping up along my taskbar. If I allowed it to keep going my system would probably have shut it down.

There were 24 m2ts files that made up the main movie, and they all did show up when I chose movie-only mode.... but once encoding started, the endless ffdshow & Matroskas.

[MikeyBK]

I looked at your post. When making a movie-only version of a seamless branching title, BD-RB creates an AVS file that concatenates all the separate parts (.M2TS sources) into a single stream. That would probably explain all the multiple occurances of FFDSHOW/Matroska... what happens if you let it run?

I could let it try and run, but there were more than 24 instances of both already and more were continuing to pop up.
It's running the TSSplitter/TSRemux m2ts right now, but I'll give it a whirl again tomorrow nite.

[jdobbs]

hi,

I rebuild a bd movie yesterday to a BD25 and I ran out of disk! :eek: The files in "WORKFILES" folder seems to be ok, the .264 is 21GB but the resulting m2ts is only 9GB I'm guessing due to insufficient disk space.

How do I combine the WORKFILES to make a blu-ray?? I don't wanna start over and wait another 10 hours... help... thanks.If you start again, just tell it to continue (it should recognize that you were already partially complete finish). If it asks you to "Delete files" -- say "No" -- that means that some setting has changed and it wants to start over...

[jdobbs]

I did a movie only rebuild for Ironman but when I tried to burn, Imgburn said the AC3 file was corrupted. All setting BD Rebuilder are default.???? There is no AC3 file being burned.

[jdobbs]

My apologies Jdobbs.

On my 2nd computer last night had a audio reincode error.

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.
Warning, unsupported file size.
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz 5.1-channel
output format: 48000 Hz 3/2 + LFE
SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3
Threads: 2
progress: 0% | q: 318.7 | bw: 34.0 | bitrate: 448.0 kbps

this was on a dos screen.

If someone can PM me and give advise on how to record and report errors. I could use the lesson.Unsupported filesize? That's odd. Does anyone with AFTEN experience know what this could be?

[Ryu77]

jdobbs, any insight as to why chapters might be incorrectly authored?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1235938#post1235938



Unsupported filesize? That's odd. Does anyone with AFTEN experience know what this could be?

Please excuse me for stating the obvious but is there any possibility that either A) He has run out of hard drive space, or B) One of his affected partitions is running a FAT32 file system?

[jdobbs]

Rebuilding "Meet the Robinsons" (German) completed (Complete backup to DVD9 size).

In tracks with german sound I've selected AC3 and, when available, DTS.
In tracks with no german sound I've selected English AC3.

Subtitles: all.

No quick encode for extras.

Made ISO Image with ImgBurn, mounted with DeamonTools and started playing with PowerDVD 8 Ultra.

The language menu at start works as it should. Then the first surprise. The standard Disney Blu-Ray promo trailer played with no sound. I looked into audio selection in PowerDVD. German was checked. I manually checked English (USA) ang got now sound...the german one. In the list of audiostreams shows PowerDVD 4 languages. English at first place, german at second place and so on. I think it is the same problem, that another user wrote here with wrong PID.

Same in main movie. Sound got muxed to the places of english.

Another problem with main movie. After 9 mins of playback it hangs. I had to jump manually some seconds forward to continue playback. The next part up to minute 29 or 30 repeated again and again. Then I stopped playback.

I tried also "Movie only" mode, but it selects not the main movie. It selects an extra as main movie.

Meet the robinsons is a very spezial BD. The main movie is split into 35 files. Half of them are tree times on BD. The regular files are with english in-movie text. The others are with german and italiano translations of the in-movie texts.

EDIT: I forgot. At end i got Error 9 'subscript out of...'. The last what it did was copying the BD structure files.Looks like this would be a good test disc... I haven't tried it. I'll pick it up and run it through.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, any insight as to why chapters might be incorrectly authored?

[url]http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1235938# Is it a movie-only encode? If so, I got lazy and just put a chapter mark every 5 minutes instead of keeping the original chapters. I'll fix that in an upcoming version.

[jdobbs]

I could let it try and run, but there were more than 24 instances of both already and more were continuing to pop up.
It's running the TSSplitter/TSRemux m2ts right now, but I'll give it a whirl again tomorrow nite.I'm guessing there would be as many instances as there are M2TS files.

I think there may be a bug in the placement of the icons also. On my system I get multiple ones that don't go away from the tray -- but if I run the cursor over them, they disappear.

I may have to relook at the concept of combining them in the AVS. Maybe I'll reencode all of them individually and then combine them in the multiplexing. I haven't tried that yet...

[shamoo]

Did you set the working path to output to?

i just set it in a folder called working which is on my hd the movie folder is in.

[jdobbs]

My apologies Jdobbs.

On my 2nd computer last night had a audio reincode error.

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.
Warning, unsupported file size.
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz 5.1-channel
output format: 48000 Hz 3/2 + LFE
SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3
Threads: 2
progress: 0% | q: 318.7 | bw: 34.0 | bitrate: 448.0 kbps

this was on a dos screen. Can you look at the size of the .WAV file in the WORKFILES directory and let me know how big it is?

Thanks.

[MR.WaynesWorld]

@jdobbs

I have three movies that have caused me grief with BD-Rebuilder. X Files - Fight the Future, X Files - I want to Believe and Hancock. All three give me multiple ffdshow and Matroska icons in the notification area and end up with multiple x264.exe errors. If there is anything I can do to help you debug this issue please let me know.

Other then those three every other one has been processed and worked perfectly.

Please keep up the great work on this program.

[jdobbs]

It appears I've overlooked something in the processing or LPCM files. When they are demuxed, any that are larger than 4GB are split into smaller files by TSMUXER -- I didn't account for that, and that's why they are screwing up when an LPCM track is kept.

[jdobbs]

Similar to the above... when doing movie only I created an AVS file that concatenated the video files... I just did a test with a large group of M2TS files (because of multiple story paths) and it failed ("out of memory"). I'm going to rethink how I do these for movie-only and will post a fix.

[vwpassion]

Similar to the above... when doing movie only I created an AVS file that concatenated the video files... I just did a test with a large group of M2TS files (because of multiple story paths) and it failed ("out of memory"). I'm going to rethink how I do these for movie-only and will post a fix.

One way is to go ahead and mux all the m2ts segments into one part (mkv), just like eac3to does when you remux to mkv. This way you'd also be able to make use of audio gaps (from my own experience this is most important when you keep the ac3 core of a True-HD track from a seamless branching title).

[jdobbs]

One way is to go ahead and mux all the m2ts segments into one part (mkv), just like eac3to does when you remux to mkv. This way you'd also be able to make use of audio gaps (from my own experience this is most important when you keep the ac3 core of a True-HD track from a seamless branching title).
That's a possibility, but unfortunately it also means you have to have an additional 15-40GB of free space for the temporary MKV file. It wouldl also solve the LPCM problem, as it could be muxed into the M2V and encoded via AVS support.

[MikeyBK]

I'm guessing there would be as many instances as there are M2TS files.

I think there may be a bug in the placement of the icons also. On my system I get multiple ones that don't go away from the tray -- but if I run the cursor over them, they disappear.

I may have to relook at the concept of combining them in the AVS. Maybe I'll reencode all of them individually and then combine them in the multiplexing. I haven't tried that yet...

Similar to the above... when doing movie only I created an AVS file that concatenated the video files... I just did a test with a large group of M2TS files (because of multiple story paths) and it failed ("out of memory"). I'm going to rethink how I do these for movie-only and will post a fix.


Also just to confirm, I reloaded Death Race/ Movie-Only from the full disc, and it also failed (screenshot below). I counted 67 instances of both ffdshow & Matroska, despite there being only 24 m2ts files in that movie playlist.
The out of memory error was kinda why I was thinking my system would shut it down, but instead BD-RB shut itself down.

Just FYI though, the remuxed (thru TSSplitter & TSRemux)movie m2ts of Death Race went flawlessly thru BD-RB. Beautiful BD-9... looks every bit as crisp as the original.

[mech61]

Just tried Starship_Troopers_AUS for the 3rd time with the same result "runtime error 424" "object missing". This time I noticed that ffdshow isnt running during the encode, could that be the problem?

[jdobbs]

Just tried Starship_Troopers_AUS for the 3rd time with the same result "runtime error 424" "object missing". This time I noticed that ffdshow isnt running during the encode, could that be the problem? That's just a residual error caused by the earlier one.

[mech61]

That's just a residual error caused by the earlier one.

any idea what the cause of the earlier problem is?

[jdobbs]

Yes. I think so. I'm working it.

[Jake802]

Hey JDobbs just so you are aware I did get that same message...
Originally Posted by datman View Post
My apologies Jdobbs.

On my 2nd computer last night had a audio reincode error.

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.
Warning, unsupported file size.
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz 5.1-channel
output format: 48000 Hz 3/2 + LFE
SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3
Threads: 2
progress: 0% | q: 318.7 | bw: 34.0 | bitrate: 448.0 kbps

this was on a dos screen.

If someone can PM me and give advise on how to record and report errors. I could use the lesson.


I just didnt realize it was an error I thought it was a normal part of the process. Thanks for the great program and work you've done by the way. I am thinking my files size was too big do to something with the audio files I selected, maybe i had too many.

[x_specter_x]

Hello Jdobbs,

I used BDRebuilder to copy the entire disc of (NTSC version) Bladerunner Theater/directors cut. By default it would only select 1 english audio channel. I went ahead and added the second dolby digital english channel to all of the segments. Then encoded and all the menus work and I can select the different versions but for some reason it shows 3 English audio channels available. When I switch them they all sound the same. There isn't a theatrical release audio version that has the voice over by Harrison Ford. Is that a bug when using multiple audio tracks with BDRebuilder?

[jdobbs]

Hello Jdobbs,

I used BDRebuilder to copy the entire disc of (NTSC version) Bladerunner Theater/directors cut. By default it would only select 1 english audio channel. I went ahead and added the second dolby digital english channel to all of the segments. Then encoded and all the menus work and I can select the different versions but for some reason it shows 3 English audio channels available. When I switch them they all sound the same. There isn't a theatrical release audio version that has the voice over by Harrison Ford. Is that a bug when using multiple audio tracks with BDRebuilder?It all depends whether the two you selected were both track audio or one was the commentary. Sometimes there can be more than one track of the same thing, only one might be DD 2.0 while another is DD 5.1 or LPCM, etc.

In order to prevent silence when selecting other tracks (from menus for instance) I always take the first selected audio track and insert its stream ID into the tracks that are removed. So if you selected only two English tracks to keep, the first English track would be played for French and Spanish as well. This concept also is meant to adjust for discs in which the main (default) track is English but you want to keep only Spanish (or another language). The Spanish stream ID would be inserted into all "empties" and therefore also become the default.

Hope that makes sense.

[x_specter_x]

jdobbs,

someone posted this on videohelp.com. if you haven't seen it you may find it helpful.

"Well adding to my previous comments....patching bd rebuilder (index.bdmv file) with Avchd.patcher V.1.5.Solved the data disc problem with Ps3.........Now the disc plays fine with Ps3 and standalone Bluray players,mine Samsung Bdp-1400.....Keep up the good work....."

here is a link to show what the patcher does: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=15285018&postcount=1662

...
That explanation about audio tracks does make sense. I thought they were both DD5.1 but could be wrong. I will check to make sure there is voice over on the original and try and figure out what happened. thanks for the help.