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setarip_old
2nd November 2010, 18:42
@ftb32

It would be more helpful if you posted the entire log...

ftb32
2nd November 2010, 19:00
-----------------------
[11:21:51] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: SU21NNE1
- Input BD size: 36,56 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:05:58.538]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:21:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:21:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [11:34:37] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 40)
- [11:34:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 140.737 frames
- Bitrate: 12.089 Kbs
- [11:34:37] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:40:57] Video Encode complete
- [12:40:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:40:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:49:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 1665
[12:49:32] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------

john920
2nd November 2010, 20:05
-----------------------
[11:21:51] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: SU21NNE1
- Input BD size: 36,56 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:05:58.538]
- Target BD size: 22,66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:21:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:21:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [11:34:37] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 40)
- [11:34:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 140.737 frames
- Bitrate: 12.089 Kbs
- [11:34:37] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [12:40:57] Video Encode complete
- [12:40:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:40:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:49:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 1665
[12:49:32] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------

I had this issue with the new grindhouse, I had to remove hd audio and copy only one audio stream, then it worked. I'm not happy with this, but it did work

ftb32
2nd November 2010, 23:47
Good friends and was an extra of 1,700 Kb remove that title, and send it to recode works well without problems.
Thanks..

spinn
3rd November 2010, 01:24
for those getting errors, have you tried to process in Safe Mode? I've found that my problems didn't show up if processed in Safe Mode. This is probably due to stray files left behind from uninstalls and reinstallations. I ran a registry cleaner from tweaknow, to remove any stray files and it seemed to have done the trick...so far.

8ternity
3rd November 2010, 02:05
Hello jdobbs;

I would like to know if there is an solution relative the CINAVIA watermark about removing that?

- i've found over the net to rebuild the BD with an AACS protection back to the master to bypass the protection, but i can't found any thread about which software can add back an ACCS encryption.

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 02:46
Hello jdobbs;

I would like to know if there is an solution relative the CINAVIA watermark about removing that?

- i've found over the net to rebuild the BD with an AACS protection back to the master to bypass the protection, but i can't found any thread about which software can add back an ACCS encryption. I'm sorry, but I just don't see what that has to do with this thread or BD Rebuilder? BD Rebuilder does not deal with encryption/decryption or protections in any way, shape, or form.

Please try to keep focused on the correct subject matter (Rule 3). There is an entire Doom9 subforum (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=9) dedicated to decryption. Within that forum there is an entire thread dedicated to Cinavia (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155777).

8ternity
3rd November 2010, 02:55
No Problem! I just remember the topic title "BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only "

Sorry

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 02:56
No Problem! I just remember the topic title "BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only "

Sorry It's cool. I can't even count the number of times this thead has gone off topic...

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 15:41
Jdobbs : I've just rebuilt the PIXAR Shorts Vol.1 and I have another .mpls issue. This BD have original IN time at 10:00:000 instead of habitual 00:00:11.650, the rebuilded mpls have the OUT TIME set with 00:00:11.650 more than the original. It makes playing shorts 11s longer than its original and the original m2ts real duration and could cause issues on some players. Not sure how that could happen. I have that disc. I'm looking at it now.

Acerjen
3rd November 2010, 17:07
I am trying to backup Cars. It has failed three times in the same place. I have re-ripped it
and it still is having problems. I am using the latest beta. Here are my logs and other info.
If any other info is needed, please ask.


Inspect.exe

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.35.0.1, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


BDRebuilder.ini

[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23200
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=O:\00 - BLU-RAY RIPS\CARS\
WORKING_PATH=O:\00 - BD REBUILDER\


Cars.ini

[Status]
LABEL=CARS
VERSION=v0.35.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=41371584140
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=37594177536
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.546615405439362
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=4
COMPLETED=29
[00015]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=46933711
RATE=9393
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28588320
NSIZE=46516224
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=14370615
RATE=10234
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27447840
NSIZE=14739456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37157393
RATE=8715
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=38952960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00024]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=38033937
RATE=8932
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=39100416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00025]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37258146
RATE=8740
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=39014400
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00026]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37654437
RATE=8838
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=39272448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00027]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37338747
RATE=8760
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=38928384
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37362256
RATE=8765
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=39032832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37130526
RATE=8708
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=38713344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=37624212
RATE=8830
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28350720
NSIZE=39284736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00036]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=576638147
RATE=9475
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46324800
NSIZE=555780096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00037]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=362025989
RATE=9351
NSTART=27000000
NEND=39306240
NSIZE=353544192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00038]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=328488956
RATE=8856
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38725920
NSIZE=315475968
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00039]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=427847370
RATE=3080
NSTART=27000000
NEND=70332480
NSIZE=425705472
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00040]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=143843847
RATE=3056
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41669280
NSIZE=143136768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00041]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=146490270
RATE=3071
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41863680
NSIZE=144728064
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00042]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=137415859
RATE=2998
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41263200
NSIZE=137723904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00043]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=159675368
RATE=3015
NSTART=27000000
NEND=43485120
NSIZE=161402880
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00044]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=73209872
RATE=3085
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34401600
NSIZE=72173568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00045]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=93148722
RATE=3008
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36639360
NSIZE=92891136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00046]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=193897516
RATE=3096
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46523520
NSIZE=193271808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00047]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=94643213
RATE=2814
NSTART=27000000
NEND=37404000
NSIZE=99182592
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00048]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=42591293
RATE=2823
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31684320
NSIZE=43431936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00049]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=79355753
RATE=2794
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35782560
NSIZE=81156096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00050]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=42037156
RATE=2801
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31638240
NSIZE=42694656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00051]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=84003786
RATE=2788
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36324000
NSIZE=85954560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00053]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=333452679
RATE=15993
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33770880
NSIZE=324765696
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00054]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=131814040
RATE=9701
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31328640
NSIZE=132476928
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00055]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=207925574
RATE=9919
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33685920
NSIZE=199680000
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00060]
AUDIO=1111
PGS=111
M2TS_TARGET=15969521632
RATE=7789


continued next post

Acerjen
3rd November 2010, 17:08
BDReuilder.txt (Log)

-----------------------
[22:23:07] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: CARS
- Input BD size: 38.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:49.536]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:23:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:23:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [22:23:14] Reencoding: VID_00015 (1 of 34)
- [22:23:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 847 frames
- Bitrate: 9,393 Kbs
- [22:23:14] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:23:26] Video Encode complete
- [22:23:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:23:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:23:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [22:23:31] Reencoding: VID_00016 (2 of 34)
- [22:23:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 239 frames
- Bitrate: 10,234 Kbs
- [22:23:31] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:23:34] Video Encode complete
- [22:23:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:23:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:23:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [22:23:41] Reencoding: VID_00023 (3 of 34)
- [22:23:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,715 Kbs
- [22:23:41] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:23:49] Video Encode complete
- [22:23:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:23:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:23:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [22:23:58] Reencoding: VID_00024 (4 of 34)
- [22:23:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,932 Kbs
- [22:23:58] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:24:12] Video Encode complete
- [22:24:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:24:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:24:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [22:24:21] Reencoding: VID_00025 (5 of 34)
- [22:24:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,740 Kbs
- [22:24:21] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:24:29] Video Encode complete
- [22:24:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:24:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:24:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [22:24:38] Reencoding: VID_00026 (6 of 34)
- [22:24:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,838 Kbs
- [22:24:38] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:24:46] Video Encode complete
- [22:24:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:24:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:24:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [22:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00027 (7 of 34)
- [22:24:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,760 Kbs
- [22:24:55] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:25:03] Video Encode complete
- [22:25:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:25:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:25:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [22:25:12] Reencoding: VID_00028 (8 of 34)
- [22:25:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,765 Kbs
- [22:25:12] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:25:21] Video Encode complete
- [22:25:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:25:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:25:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [22:25:29] Reencoding: VID_00029 (9 of 34)
- [22:25:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,708 Kbs
- [22:25:29] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:25:38] Video Encode complete
- [22:25:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:25:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:25:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [22:25:46] Reencoding: VID_00030 (10 of 34)
- [22:25:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,830 Kbs
- [22:25:46] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:25:54] Video Encode complete
- [22:25:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:25:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:25:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [22:27:21] Reencoding: VID_00036 (11 of 34)
- [22:27:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,297 frames
- Bitrate: 9,475 Kbs
- [22:27:21] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:30:59] Video Encode complete
- [22:30:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:30:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:31:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [22:32:15] Reencoding: VID_00037 (12 of 34)
- [22:32:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,557 frames
- Bitrate: 9,351 Kbs
- [22:32:15] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:34:30] Video Encode complete
- [22:34:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:34:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:34:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [22:35:32] Reencoding: VID_00038 (13 of 34)
- [22:35:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,248 frames
- Bitrate: 8,856 Kbs
- [22:35:32] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:37:50] Video Encode complete
- [22:37:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:37:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:38:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [22:39:09] Reencoding: VID_00039 (14 of 34)
- [22:39:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 28,860 frames
- Bitrate: 3,080 Kbs
- [22:39:09] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:41:04] Video Encode complete
- [22:41:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:41:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:41:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [22:41:43] Reencoding: VID_00040 (15 of 34)
- [22:41:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,770 frames
- Bitrate: 3,056 Kbs
- [22:41:43] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:42:20] Video Encode complete
- [22:42:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:42:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:42:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [22:42:48] Reencoding: VID_00041 (16 of 34)
- [22:42:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,900 frames
- Bitrate: 3,071 Kbs
- [22:42:48] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:43:27] Video Encode complete
- [22:43:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:43:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:43:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [22:43:54] Reencoding: VID_00042 (17 of 34)
- [22:43:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,500 frames
- Bitrate: 2,998 Kbs
- [22:43:54] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:44:29] Video Encode complete
- [22:44:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:44:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:44:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [22:44:59] Reencoding: VID_00043 (18 of 34)
- [22:44:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 10,980 frames
- Bitrate: 3,015 Kbs
- [22:44:59] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:45:39] Video Encode complete
- [22:45:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:45:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:45:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00044]
- [22:45:57] Reencoding: VID_00044 (19 of 34)
- [22:45:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,930 frames
- Bitrate: 3,085 Kbs
- [22:45:57] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:46:18] Video Encode complete
- [22:46:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:46:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:46:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [22:46:35] Reencoding: VID_00045 (20 of 34)
- [22:46:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,420 frames
- Bitrate: 3,008 Kbs
- [22:46:35] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:46:58] Video Encode complete
- [22:46:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:46:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:47:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
- [22:47:33] Reencoding: VID_00046 (21 of 34)
- [22:47:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 13,003 frames
- Bitrate: 3,096 Kbs
- [22:47:33] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:48:26] Video Encode complete
- [22:48:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:48:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:48:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00047]
- [22:48:48] Reencoding: VID_00047 (22 of 34)
- [22:48:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,930 frames
- Bitrate: 2,814 Kbs
- [22:48:48] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:49:08] Video Encode complete
- [22:49:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:49:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:49:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00048]
- [22:49:20] Reencoding: VID_00048 (23 of 34)
- [22:49:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,120 frames
- Bitrate: 2,823 Kbs
- [22:49:20] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:49:29] Video Encode complete
- [22:49:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:49:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:49:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00049]
- [22:49:43] Reencoding: VID_00049 (24 of 34)
- [22:49:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,850 frames
- Bitrate: 2,794 Kbs
- [22:49:43] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:49:59] Video Encode complete
- [22:49:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:49:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:50:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [22:50:10] Reencoding: VID_00050 (25 of 34)
- [22:50:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,090 frames
- Bitrate: 2,801 Kbs
- [22:50:10] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:50:19] Video Encode complete
- [22:50:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:50:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:50:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [22:50:34] Reencoding: VID_00051 (26 of 34)
- [22:50:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,210 frames
- Bitrate: 2,788 Kbs
- [22:50:34] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:50:52] Video Encode complete
- [22:50:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:50:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:50:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00053]
- [22:51:45] Reencoding: VID_00053 (27 of 34)
- [22:51:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,608 frames
- Bitrate: 15,993 Kbs
- [22:51:45] Reencoding: VID_00053, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:53:05] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:53:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:53:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00054]
- [22:53:38] Reencoding: VID_00054 (28 of 34)
- [22:53:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,307 frames
- Bitrate: 9,701 Kbs
- [22:53:38] Reencoding: VID_00054, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:54:19] Video Encode complete
- [22:54:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:54:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:54:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00055]
- [22:54:56] Reencoding: VID_00055 (29 of 34)
- [22:54:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,563 frames
- Bitrate: 9,919 Kbs
- [22:54:56] Reencoding: VID_00055, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:56:08] Video Encode complete
- [22:56:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:56:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:56:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- [23:35:29] Reencoding: VID_00060 (30 of 34)
- [23:35:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 167,736 frames
- Bitrate: 7,789 Kbs
- [23:35:29] Reencoding: VID_00060, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:53:09] Video Encode complete
- [00:53:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:53:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00060.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[01:01:43] - Failed to build structure, aborted



Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Magpowerzip

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 18:01
What kinds of audio does it show for VID_00060?

Acerjen
3rd November 2010, 18:28
It shows the following audio for VID_0060

AUD_001 LPCM, Multi-Ch, English
AUD_002 AC3, Multi-Ch, English
AUD_003 AC3, Stereo, English
AUD_004 AC3, Stereo, English


Thanks.
Magpowerzip

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 18:54
It shows the following audio for VID_0060

AUD_001 LPCM, Multi-Ch, English
AUD_002 AC3, Multi-Ch, English
AUD_003 AC3, Stereo, English
AUD_004 AC3, Stereo, English


Thanks.
Magpowerzip Can you look in the working folder (WORKFILES) and tell me how many .WAV files exist for 00060?

Acerjen
3rd November 2010, 19:16
I deleted the WORKFILES directory and started encoding another film. I will re-do it again today and get back with you this evening. Thanks for your help.

magpowerzip

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 21:46
I deleted the WORKFILES directory and started encoding another film. I will re-do it again today and get back with you this evening. Thanks for your help.

magpowerzip Thanks. I just wanted to see if there were multiple parts (.WAV files) so determine if that could be the root of the problem.

jdobbs
3rd November 2010, 21:47
Jdobbs : I've just rebuilt the PIXAR Shorts Vol.1 and I have another .mpls issue. This BD have original IN time at 10:00:000 instead of habitual 00:00:11.650, the rebuilded mpls have the OUT TIME set with 00:00:11.650 more than the original. It makes playing shorts 11s longer than its original and the original m2ts real duration and could cause issues on some players. Not sure how that could happen. I have that disc. I'm looking at it now. @SoniG

Can you give me some more information as to where to look for the problem? I completed the encode, and everything seems to look right to me.

Acerjen
4th November 2010, 04:08
Can you look in the working folder (WORKFILES) and tell me how many .WAV files exist for 00060?

I re-did Cars and there are 2 WAV files created for VID_00060.
They are as follows:

00060.track_4352.1
00060.track_4352.2


Thanks for your help.

Magpowerzip

jdobbs
4th November 2010, 04:30
I re-did Cars and there are 2 WAV files created for VID_00060.
They are as follows:

00060.track_4352.1
00060.track_4352.2


Thanks for your help.

Magpowerzip They do have .WAV on the end, right?

Acerjen
4th November 2010, 16:09
They do have .WAV on the end, right?


Yes, they have .WAV on the end. Thanks.


Magpowerzip

camj1970
5th November 2010, 12:41
While I was backing up my Planet Earth Blu-Ray I encountered a problem.

I selected each of the episodes as separately and put them into the batch. I then ran the batch and instead of 3 folders each with a separate episode, I had 1 folder with the last episode in it.

I looked at the batch and each playlist was named the same name. My assumption is that BD-Rebuilder overwrote each folder because they were named the same thing in the batch.

I found a work around by editing the batchbd.ini externally and renaming each play list separately.

The fix would be to either 1) Allow the renaming of each batch entry in the batch tab 2) Have BD-Rebuilder automatically rename a folder with numbers to denote a different one.

jdobbs
5th November 2010, 14:14
While I was backing up my Planet Earth Blu-Ray I encountered a problem.

I selected each of the episodes as separately and put them into the batch. I then ran the batch and instead of 3 folders each with a separate episode, I had 1 folder with the last episode in it.

I looked at the batch and each playlist was named the same name. My assumption is that BD-Rebuilder overwrote each folder because they were named the same thing in the batch.

I found a work around by editing the batchbd.ini externally and renaming each play list separately.

The fix would be to either 1) Allow the renaming of each batch entry in the batch tab 2) Have BD-Rebuilder automatically rename a folder with numbers to denote a different one. Hmmm... I'll look at it. What I might do is add a numeric extension to the name if the output folder already exists (when in batch mode).

omegaman7
5th November 2010, 17:53
I had a similar thought with Dvd rebuilder. I ran Batch once upon a time, with the output to the same directory. Needless to say, batch mode ran 4 jobs, and I ended up with only the final one completed. I learned my lesson that night LOL! ALWAYS change the ouput directory LOL! Or create an image file ;)

jdobbs
5th November 2010, 20:01
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.36.01). Changes for this release:- Added the ability to create DVD backups of your
blu-ray disc. The backup can be selected under
the "Alternate Movie-Only Output" when movie-
only mode is in effect. A ready-to-burn structure
is created in the working folder. Subtitles are
not supported, expect them in a future release.
- Added a new selection to the SETUP dialog called
"Assume PAL for DVD Output". This auto-converts
non-PAL sources to 25fps, 720x576 (for DVD output
only).
- Increased the BD-25 target size value slightly to
use more of available space.
- Corrected an issue in which stopping BD-RB during
audio encoding would leave the WAVI and AFTEN
processes running. As a result, restarting soon
afterward could cause unpredictable anomalies in
the audio, including sync and size issues.
- Changed an option in X264 command line that may
have caused "crash" on certain types of sources.
- Added check to ensure original video is not kept
intact when filter use is enabled.
- Removed inverse telecining from the streams menu.
Too many people don't understand IVTC and are
using it incorrectly. If you wish to IVTC, just
select it in SETUP. If you want it back -- add
the hidden value "IVTC_SELECTION=1" to the BD-RB
configuration (INI) file.
- Added 720x480 and 720x576 as output options to
Alternate output choices. Note that you cannot
use this size for iPOD output as it is larger
than the 640x480 maximum for that device.
- Corrected an error in which the frame rate was
set incorrectly for MP4 output when using
ALTERNATE output and IVTC was active.
- Fixed incorrect pass reporting during alternate
output to MKV.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1745).
- Updated the included version of X264-54.EXE to
the latest release (r1745).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

camj1970
5th November 2010, 20:36
Hmmm... I'll look at it. What I might do is add a numeric extension to the name if the output folder already exists (when in batch mode).

My workaround didn't work :eek:. I will try the editing of the output directory in the batch file.

camj1970
5th November 2010, 20:46
When I backup my kids Disney Blu-Ray discs there are what I call "artifacts", what looks like the picture being a bunch of squares with the playback.

When I look at the original stream folder I notice that the Disney Blu-rays have a lot more files than most of my other Blu-Rays. My guess is that the artifacts are occurring where the files are meshing together.

Capsbackup
5th November 2010, 20:53
When I backup my kids Disney Blu-Ray discs there are what I call "artifacts", what looks like the picture being a bunch of squares with the playback.

When I look at the original stream folder I notice that the Disney Blu-rays have a lot more files than most of my other Blu-Rays. My guess is that the artifacts are occurring where the files are meshing together.

More likely it has to do with the bitrate of the reencoded files. Are you doing a full movie backup, and if so is it to BD5? Check to see what the BD-RB log file says the bitrate is for the .m2ts files you see the blocking on.

camj1970
5th November 2010, 21:04
More likely it has to do with the bitrate of the reencoded files. Are you doing a full movie backup, and if so is it to BD5? Check to see what the BD-RB log file says the bitrate is for the .m2ts files you see the blocking on.

I am not reducing the size of the movie at all. Size is not an issue for me, I am backing up my discs to a NAS not burning them to another Disc. Quality is the most important thing to me.

Here are my options:
$$$$$Beauty_and_the_Beast-1, Movie-Only, CUSTOM, Extreme Quality
[Options]
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=80000
PRIORITY_CLASS=2
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=0
ALTMETHOD=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\RAW_BRAY\BEAUTYANDTHEBEAST\
WORKING_PATH=E:\BLU-RAY\
[Batch]
MAIN_MPLS=00803.MPLS
FORCED_SUB=0
FORCED_AUD=0
AUDIO=1001100110011001100110011001
SUBS=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Capsbackup
5th November 2010, 21:34
I am not reducing the size of the movie at all. Size is not an issue for me, I am backing up my discs to a NAS not burning them to another Disc. Quality is the most important thing to me.


Well if there is no reencoding, why would you suspect BD-RB is creating the blocking? :confused:

camj1970
5th November 2010, 21:43
Well if there is no reencoding, why would you suspect BD-RB is creating the blocking? :confused:

Because BD-Rebuilder is joining the various parts into 1 m2ts file. A feature I love, by the way.

Stormcrow
5th November 2010, 22:19
Hi,

Just updated to 36.01, and ran 'inspect' just to check all was well.
It's not.
I'm getting: "FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting"

I've read and re-read the first post and cannot find anything saying what the recommended setting is.

I've just looked in Start-All Progs-ffdshow-audio decoder config.
It's a rather bewildering array of options!
The most likely candidate I can see is the very last one 'uncompressed', which is currently set to 'disabled'.
Hoping that I could just 'enable' it, I clicked the drop-down and was presented with a long list of possible data types.

So which parameter do I actually need to change, and what value do I need to change it to?

<edit>: Yes, I found a post that says it should be set to 'all supported', and inspect seems happy.
Would it be possible to update the first post to include a more comprehensive list of 'recommended settings'?

Thanks,
SC

jdobbs
5th November 2010, 22:32
Because BD-Rebuilder is joining the various parts into 1 m2ts file. A feature I love, by the way. I really don't see how that could cause blocking...

jdobbs
5th November 2010, 22:35
Hi,

Just updated to 36.01, and ran 'inspect' just to check all was well.
It's not.
I'm getting: "FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting"

I've read and re-read the first post and cannot find anything saying what the recommended setting is.

I've just looked in Start-All Progs-ffdshow-audio decoder config.
It's a rather bewildering array of options!
The most likely candidate I can see is the very last one 'uncompressed', which is currently set to 'disabled'.
Hoping that I could just 'enable' it, I clicked the drop-down and was presented with a long list of possible data types.

So which parameter do I actually need to change, and what value do I need to change it to?

<edit>: Yes, I found a post that says it should be set to 'all supported', and inspect seems happy.
Would it be possible to update the first post to include a more comprehensive list of 'recommended settings'?

Thanks,
SC When you run BD Rebuilder the first time it will update it for you (assuming it has never been run before). The reason I added that check is that sometimes folks are reporting errors on WAV reencoding due to the fact that there is no directshow codec set to playback LPCM.

I'll update the first post.

camj1970
5th November 2010, 22:38
I really don't see how that could cause blocking...

I am but a novice in this you are the expert and the coder. All I can report is what I have observed in my use of the product, which I am a big fan of.

Every one of my Disney Blu-rays have the same problem. I will do a little more investigation to try and isolate the problem.

jdobbs
5th November 2010, 22:43
I am but a novice in this you are the expert and the coder. All I can report is what I have observed in my use of the product, which I am a big fan of.

Every one of my Disney Blu-rays have the same problem. I will do a little more investigation to try and isolate the problem. I'll do a couple with "FORCE_NOENCODE" set and see if it does it for me.

JJB
6th November 2010, 01:44
@jdobbs: I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.36.01). Changes for this release:


Thank You Very Much Sir!!!

Chiamos
6th November 2010, 06:11
Thank you for the update of your "Prime-Time" program .:)

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 14:43
I am but a novice in this you are the expert and the coder. All I can report is what I have observed in my use of the product, which I am a big fan of.

Every one of my Disney Blu-rays have the same problem. I will do a little more investigation to try and isolate the problem. Are you playing back on a standalone player or a PC? I'm not seeing any issues on my standalone.

[Edit] I'm trying it again with some different settings...

Giljorak
6th November 2010, 18:02
Thanks for the DVD output option. I just did a BD25 to DVD5 re-encode of Toy Story 3. There are a few of things I noticed.
1. The target BD size says 22.90 GB.
2. The final output was only 4.06 GB (4,367,894,528 bytes) in size.
3. Would it be possible to have the HCencoder window visible while the re-encode is happening?

[08:04:37] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3
- Input BD size: 21.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.344]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:04:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:04:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [08:08:55] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [08:08:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 147,533 frames
- Bitrate: 5,123 Kbs
- [08:08:55] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [10:38:15] Video Encode complete
- [10:38:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:39:29] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:39:29]PHASE ONE complete
[10:39:29]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:39:29] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [10:39:29] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [10:41:40] Starting MPLEX.
- [10:44:07] Building DVD File Structure.
[10:46:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:46:22]JOB: TOY_STORY_3 finished.

Thanks for the awesome application.

m.rup
6th November 2010, 19:04
Hi, since the first time I am using this wonderful application (thanks, jdobbs!) it is not very friendly to languages other than english. :) That means, even though I have selected german and english in the setup, languages to keep, BD Rebuilder always is keeping english language only and discarding german language, so I have to activate german language manually before encode (and, believe me, for the BD 'Cars' this takes some minutes...) Nevertheless, up to version 3406 I think, I could do it this way, but since I upgraded to version 3407 and 3601, german audio tracks are completely ignored, even when I have selected them manually. All the other stuff (menus, legal warnings, and so on) is in german language, but it's not possible to chose german audio track in the language menu, it feels as if the german language tracks all have been removed.

BD is 'Cars', region 'B', ripped with DVD Fab versions 8005 up to 8032.

Any ideas what this could be?

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 19:42
Thanks for the DVD output option. I just did a BD25 to DVD5 re-encode of Toy Story 3. There are a few of things I noticed.
1. The target BD size says 22.90 GB.
2. The final output was only 4.06 GB (4,367,894,528 bytes) in size.
3. Would it be possible to have the HCencoder window visible while the re-encode is happening?

...

Thanks for the awesome application.1. I've removed the target size log line when outputting to DVD.

2. I'll review the output size calculator. It should be outputting 4.20GB.

3. You can add "SHOW_ENCODER=1" to the INI file to show HC Encoder.

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 20:35
Hi, since the first time I am using this wonderful application (thanks, jdobbs!) it is not very friendly to languages other than english. :) That means, even though I have selected german and english in the setup, languages to keep, BD Rebuilder always is keeping english language only and discarding german language, so I have to activate german language manually before encode (and, believe me, for the BD 'Cars' this takes some minutes...) Nevertheless, up to version 3406 I think, I could do it this way, but since I upgraded to version 3407 and 3601, german audio tracks are completely ignored, even when I have selected them manually. All the other stuff (menus, legal warnings, and so on) is in german language, but it's not possible to chose german audio track in the language menu, it feels as if the german language tracks all have been removed.

BD is 'Cars', region 'B', ripped with DVD Fab versions 8005 up to 8032.

Any ideas what this could be? It treats all languages exactly the same and the exact same code is executed for all. The difference is probably that there are two different ISO codes in use for German (DEU and GER) -- make sure you select both ot them in SETUP.

Also -- make sure the tracks are actually still there after ripping.

MilesAhead
6th November 2010, 20:37
Thanks for the dvd output option. I did a few runs using dvd5 output and got sizes consistent with the other poster's note. In the range 4.0 to 4.06 GB as shown by Explorer. I did one with dvd9 output and got a folder size about 5.2 GB for a 90 minute film. The results all looked good. No audio sync or other issues. On one run I burned in forced subs using the avs filter options. All came out fine. The conversions all completed on my quad within the run time of the films. Which is great. Thanks again. :)

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 20:43
Thanks for the dvd output option. I did a few runs using dvd5 output and got sizes consistent with the other poster's note. In the range 4.0 to 4.06 GB as shown by Explorer. I did one with dvd9 output and got a folder size about 5.2 GB for a 90 minute film. The results all looked good. No audio sync or other issues. On one run I burned in forced subs using the avs filter options. All came out fine. The conversions all completed on my quad within the run time of the films. Which is great. Thanks again. :) The 5.2GB DVD-9 output is due to the maximum video bitrate limitations of DVD. I use an average bitrate of no more than 8500 Kbs and a maximum (peak) rate of 9000 Kbs to ensure there is room for audio and VBR adjustment. 90 minutes isn't long enough to fill a DVD-9.

I'm not sure why the DVD-5 size is so small. I must be calculating something wrong.

k-c-ksum
6th November 2010, 21:39
is there an option to use DTS core audio rather than encode the dtshd down to ac3? I know its possible in tsmuxer but cant see that option in bdrb, or am i missing somthing?

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 21:43
is there an option to use DTS core audio rather than encode the dtshd down to ac3? I know its possible in tsmuxer but cant see that option in bdrb, or am i missing somthing?Yes, you can use DTS core -- assuming you're not attempting to write to BD-5 or 9 and have Strict AVCHD selected (contrary to what some well-intended but less-informed folks might say -- DTS is not AVCHD compliant). Read the audio information post in the Frequently Asked Questions sticky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157143) for specifics.

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 22:12
I am but a novice in this you are the expert and the coder. All I can report is what I have observed in my use of the product, which I am a big fan of.

Every one of my Disney Blu-rays have the same problem. I will do a little more investigation to try and isolate the problem.

Well, after several attempts I've decided the problem has to be on your end somewhere. Maybe your playback CODEC? I did several discs, the lastest being "Toy Story 3", and can't repeat the issue. They all work perfectly on my standalone player.

m.rup
6th November 2010, 23:01
Hi jdobbs, thanks for your advice.

there are two different ISO codes in use for German (DEU and GER) -- make sure you select both ot them in SETUP.

You where absolutely right, shame on me, I didn't notice the second ISO code in setup.

Also -- make sure the tracks are actually still there after ripping.

I am an absolute newbie in terms of blu ray, how can I do this?

Anyways, I will run a new encode with the new setup and see what will happen.
Many thanks again.

Shuttle99
6th November 2010, 23:39
jdobbs,
not sure what changed 36.01 but something has changed for the worse, I have tried 36.01 on two movies dvd5 and dvd9 on both movies neither play on my panasonic player where they have all played up to version 35.01. I did them both over with 35.01 and they work fine using 35.01. Not sure if the logs will help you let me know if I can send them to you.

Thanks,
Shuttle99

jdobbs
6th November 2010, 23:53
jdobbs,
not sure what changed 36.01 but something has changed for the worse, I have tried 36.01 on two movies dvd5 and dvd9 on both movies neither play on my panasonic player where they have all played up to version 35.01. I did them both over with 35.01 and they work fine using 35.01. Not sure if the logs will help you let me know if I can send them to you.

Thanks,
Shuttle99 There was no change that could affect that except possibly the X264 update. Almost all the updates were to ALTERNATE output (which is a different module). I guess you could try v36.01 with the old X264 version. Are you sure you're using the same settings on both (especially the "Strict AVCHD" setting)?

k-c-ksum
7th November 2010, 00:09
Yes, you can use DTS core -- assuming you're not attempting to write to BD-5 or 9 and have Strict AVCHD selected (contrary to what some well-intended but less-informed folks might say -- DTS is not AVCHD compliant). Read the audio information post in the Frequently Asked Questions sticky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157143) for specifics.
thanks, so un tick keep hd audio and tick dont convert dts to ac3 and im good to go? dts hdma on tv shows is over kill imo and the fact that there is normally a ton of video on each disc then i think its worth the audio hit for some video bitrate :)

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 00:12
I don't use and have never used the "strict AVCHD for BD-5/9" since you have incorporated USE X264's internal LAVF I have benn using that and it has been working flawlessly. I will copy over the x264 from 35.01 to 36.01 and run another tonight and try it in the morning and let you know. I opened the settings window in each version so I made sure I had them the same since they have been working great.

MilesAhead
7th November 2010, 00:52
The 5.2GB DVD-9 output is due to the maximum video bitrate limitations of DVD. I use an average bitrate of no more than 8500 Kbs and a maximum (peak) rate of 9000 Kbs to ensure there is room for audio and VBR adjustment. 90 minutes isn't long enough to fill a DVD-9.

I'm not sure why the DVD-5 size is so small. I must be calculating something wrong.

I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I notice in the log it shows 640 kbit for audio even though the actual output is 448 dvd compliant ac3. That may skew it a bit undersized if the calc is assuming 640 kbit.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 02:58
I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I notice in the log it shows 640 kbit for audio even though the actual output is 448 dvd compliant ac3. That may skew it a bit undersized if the calc is assuming 640 kbit. I think I'd adjusted for that -- but I'll check it. Thanks.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 03:01
thanks, so un tick keep hd audio and tick dont convert dts to ac3 and im good to go? dts hdma on tv shows is over kill imo and the fact that there is normally a ton of video on each disc then i think its worth the audio hit for some video bitrate :) Yes, and if your output is DVD-5/9, also uncheck "Strict AVCHD".

Pifcan
7th November 2010, 06:42
I tried twice to backup ' How to train your dragon ', but no audio at all, the video is perfect!!!!
Here are my settings:
[14:45:14] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA
- Input BD size: 24.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:51.031]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:45:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:45:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [14:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [14:59:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 140,764 frames
- Bitrate: 9,174 Kbs
- [14:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:41:52] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:26:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:26:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:26:13] Multiplexing M2TS
[21:30:05]PHASE ONE complete
[21:30:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:30:05] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[00:12:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:12:31] BURNING BD structure to disc
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[00:52:00]JOB: HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA finished.



[Status]
LABEL=HOW_TO_TRAIN_YOUR_DRA
VERSION=v0.36.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=26494371840
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=26494371840
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.317884963752362
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00010]
AUDIO=1100000
PGS=1010000000
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
RATE=9174
NSTART=27000000
NEND=291194553
NSIZE=7064322048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUTO_BURN=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=fra;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=J:\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 13:57
jdobbs, I copied over the x264 from 35.01 to 36.01 and tried it again and it did not work. I am trying it again with strict AVCHD on and will let you know how that goes when it is done. They do play normal on the computer but the panasonic player does not like some thing that has changed in 36.01. I did notice a new file in the 36.01 tools directory HCencoder.exe not sure if it is being used in 36.01 and is causing it not to play?

Thanks,
Shuttle99

m.rup
7th November 2010, 13:58
Anyways, I will run a new encode with the new setup and see what will happen.

Encode is finished, and it is perfect! So I come to the conclusion that there must have been some changes in the code which latterly prevent BD Rebuilder from taking a language into consideration if this language is not selected in the setup. Shouldn't it be possible to override the settings from the setup manually? In earlier versions it worked this way, but not in the latest versions (I tried three or four times). Maybe this is a phenomenon limited to german language which has two ISO codes, but, as already mentioned, it worked in earlier versions.

gamete
7th November 2010, 14:00
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting

how to fix?

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 14:04
jdobbs, I copied over the x264 from 35.01 to 36.01 and tried it again and it did not work. I am trying it again with strict AVCHD on and will let you know how that goes when it is done. They do play normal on the computer but the panasonic player does not like some thing that has changed in 36.01. I did notice a new file in the 36.01 tools directory HCencoder.exe not sure if it is being used in 36.01 and is causing it not to play?

Thanks,
Shuttle99 That's unrelated to BD processing. It is only used for DVD creation.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 14:09
Encode is finished, and it is perfect! So I come to the conclusion that there must have been some changes in the code which latterly prevent BD Rebuilder from taking a language into consideration if this language is not selected in the setup. Shouldn't it be possible to override the settings from the setup manually? In earlier versions it worked this way, but not in the latest versions (I tried three or four times). Maybe this is a phenomenon limited to german language which has two ISO codes, but, as already mentioned, it worked in earlier versions.??? You can select/deselect anything you want by double clicking on the audio in the streams list. I just tried it and it works correctly. You cannot change the audio, however, while the disc is being processed (for obvious reasons).

but, as already mentioned, it worked in earlier versions.
I think you are mistaken. The way it works has not changed at all in many, many versions. The default selections are based upon your SETUP choices, but after the defaults are set, you can change as you see fit from the streams lit. If, however, you go back and change the settings in SETUP, you will revert to the defaults again.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 14:11
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting

how to fix? Go into FFDSHOW's audio decoder configuration utility and set "Uncompressed" (the last entry) to "All Supported".

m.rup
7th November 2010, 14:44
Hi jdobbs, sorry for being inexplicit, english is not my native language.

You can select/deselect anything you want by double clicking on the audio in the streams list.

Of course I selected german language in the stream list before starting processing the way you mentioned and it looked like it worked properly. But then, after the encode had been started and finished, I had to face that the only remaining audio tracks on the disc (burnt with ImgBurn) where the english ones, the german ones had disappeared. This did not happen with earlier versions of BD Rebuilder. Since I have selected the second ISO code in setup, the stream list now shows the german tracks selected from the beginning and they are on the disc after encode.

Besides, I appreciate your incredible work for years (maybe you remember, years ago I sent you some bucks in a letter from germany:)) and have made a donation. Please carry on with developing these marvelous things.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 14:52
Hi jdobbs, sorry for being inexplicit, english is not my native language.



Of course I selected german language in the stream list before starting processing the way you mentioned and it looked like it worked properly. But then, after the encode had been started and finished, I had to face that the only remaining audio tracks on the disc (burnt with ImgBurn) where the english ones, the german ones had disappeared. This did not happen with earlier versions of BD Rebuilder. Since I have selected the second ISO code in setup, the stream list now shows the german tracks selected from the beginning and they are on the disc after encode.

Besides, I appreciate your incredible work for years (maybe you remember, years ago I sent you some bucks in a letter from germany:)) and have made a donation. Please carry on with developing these marvelous things. Are you sure it isn't an issue with a specific disc? BD-RB's processing of audio hasn't changed in this release. There was an update in that last release (v0.35.01):- Corrected an error in which audio/sub tracks may
be incorrectly identified by track/language when
reencoded using movie-only mode from a multi-part
source with a large number of segments. Maybe posting your log and INF file (from the failed attempt) would help. I'm a little confused because selecting an audio track from the streams list and from the SETUP does the same thing -- except one is automatic.

drackula
7th November 2010, 14:59
I can't use it. when i can run program show " This beta is expired. Please upgrade to a new version" but i use program last version 0.36.01
How to i can fix. thank you

m.rup
7th November 2010, 15:26
BD-RB's processing of audio hasn't changed in this release. There was an update in that last release (v0.35.01):

Yes, it is possible that the issue has been raised in v0.35.01 (when I noticed the problem, I already had upgraded to 0.36.01)
Well, I will deselect German(deu) in setup and then do another encode.

Maybe posting your log and INF file (from the failed attempt) would help.

Where can I find these files? Do I have to delete the log file to get a new one containing only the current data?

Ps: Just deselected German(deu) and the german tracks have become deselected in the stream list. Will now start the encoding.
Pps: Of course I selected the the german tracks manually in the stream list.

bassnut
7th November 2010, 15:51
I can't use it. when i can run program show " This beta is expired. Please upgrade to a new version" but i use program last version 0.36.01
How to i can fix. thank you

If you ahve and are using the latest version 0.36.01 check your couputers date and time settings I would guess that something isn't set right there.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 15:53
I can't use it. when i can run program show " This beta is expired. Please upgrade to a new version" but i use program last version 0.36.01
How to i can fix. thank you Your computer's date is set incorrectly.

jhkilroy
7th November 2010, 17:03
Awesome to be able to make a normal dvd from bd rebuilder! Sweet! Its sweet to turn a blu ray into something that will play in the car....... sweeeeeeeeeeeet !

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 17:19
jdobbs, i had both conversions one from 36.01 & one from 35.01 so I thought I would try burn another disc using all files from 36.01 but make one change, I deleted the m2ts video file from the stream directroy and replaced it with the one made from 35.01 and low and behold the disc played so the problem isn't all the other files in the folders from 36.01 its the video file that won't play. I have proved it by using all files from 36.01 but only changing out and using the m2ts file from 35.01. Maybe this will help. Another thing is I converted it twice with 36.01 once with the x264 from 36.01 and another after replacing 36.01 x264 files with the ones from 35.01 and that did not play either so its something that 36.01 is doing to the m2ts video file and not the x264 files since I have tried the ones from 35.01 and it did not work. Version 35.01 works and 36.01 does something to the m2ts file and the player does not like it thought it does play on the computer.

Shuttle99

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 19:40
jdobbs, I just got done trying 36.01 with strict AVCHD on and it still does not work. So back to my other post 36.01 is putting something into m2ts video file it self that is preventing it from loading because like I said in the other post all the files generated from 36.01 and the m2ts video file from 35.01 play fine.

m.rup
7th November 2010, 20:16
The encoding is finished now and the disc shows the same behavior as afore when German(deu) was deselected, the german tracks have disappeared though I have selected them manually in the stream list (in this case only for main feature, I did it for all streams in previous tests, the result was the same). I have attached the .inf and the .log file, maybe there are some hints of what's going on.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 23:03
jdobbs, I just got done trying 36.01 with strict AVCHD on and it still does not work. So back to my other post 36.01 is putting something into m2ts video file it self that is preventing it from loading because like I said in the other post all the files generated from 36.01 and the m2ts video file from 35.01 play fine. Well no matter how many times you say it I have the code right here in front of me... and BD-RB never puts or changes anything in the M2TS file (except in a menu). The CLPI and MPLS files are modified by BD-RB to match the M2TS in the context of the BD. The M2TS file is created by TSMUXER. The same version of TSMUXER has been in use for at least a year now... I have no idea why it would be different -- but if something is modifying the M2TS I don't think it is BD-RB.

Are you doing any kind of pre or post processing?

I'm sure something is going on that is causing you to have an issue... but we're not going to find it by you telling me what my program is doing when I know better.

Can you run it again and compare the command lines used for encoding the main feature (it is in the BD-RB folder and is called LASTCMD.TXT)?

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 23:34
jdobbs, I always create a new directory for all new versions of BDRebuilder so I currently have both version still installed in seperate directories and they both run independent of each other. I ran each version 35.01 & 36.01 on the same video and saved them in different folders, I burned both & 35.01 plays and 36.01 wants to play but kicks back to the dvd player menu. So I burned the 36.01 files only changing the m2ts video file using the one created with 35.01 and it played fine. I will burn another with the 35.01 files changing only the m2ts video from the 36.01 conversion and let you know if it will play. I have both files you asked about and I can send them to you to look at. The only thing on the 36.01 file I last ran I selected strict AVCHD in the setup. Let me know if I can send them to you some how.

jdobbs
7th November 2010, 23:37
jdobbs, I always create a new directory for all new versions of BDRebuilder so I currently have both version still installed in seperate directories and they both run independent of each other. I ran each version 35.01 & 36.01 on the same video and saved them in different folders, I burned both & 35.01 plays and 36.01 wants to play but kicks back to the dvd player menu. So I burned the 36.01 files only changing the m2ts video file using the one created with 35.01 and it played fine. I will burn another with the 35.01 files changing only the m2ts video from the 36.01 conversion and let you know if it will play. I have both files you asked about and I can send them to you to look at. The only thing on the 36.01 file I last ran I selected strict AVCHD in the setup. Let me know if I can send them to you some how. I'd rather you compared the LASTCMD.TXT files as I requested.

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 23:46
ok not sure what to look for but here are the files

35.01
D:\Video\BD-RBV03501\tools\x264-64.exe" "D:\WORKING 5\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.vc1" --preset medium --demuxer lavf --force-cfr --b-pyramid strict --weightp 0 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 3759 --level 4.0 --qpfile "D:\WORKING 5\WORKFILES\VID_00020.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "D:\WORKING 5\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.vc1.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\WORKING 5\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.vc1.264"

36.01
"D:\Video\BD-RBV03601\tools\x264-64.exe" "D:\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.vc1" --preset medium --demuxer lavf --b-pyramid strict --weightp 0 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 3759 --level 4.0 --qpfile "D:\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\VID_00020.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --threads auto --thread-input --stats "D:\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.vc1.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\00020.track_4113.vc1.264"

Shuttle99
7th November 2010, 23:58
Ok I just burned a disc that 35.01 created but used the m2ts video that 36.01 created and it will not work but the disc I burned using the files from 36.01 and video from 35.01 works so the m2ts video file from 35.01 works when burned with all other files created from either version but the m2ts video file created with 36.01 will not work with either version files. I have test this on two different videos with the same results.

Capsbackup
8th November 2010, 02:09
It appears the log shows that with version 35.01 force-crf is set, but not with 36.01. Yet bitrate shows 3759 for both. :confused:

@Shuttle99;
Do you let BD-RB create a new .ini file when you unzip the newest release? If not, you may want to try that. It is pretty simple to set up the new release with the features that you like, and avoid a potential conflict with previous versions to new releases.

Shuttle99
8th November 2010, 03:28
It appears the log shows that with version 35.01 force-crf is set, but not with 36.01. Yet bitrate shows 3759 for both. :confused:

@Shuttle99;
Do you let BD-RB create a new .ini file when you unzip the newest release? If not, you may want to try that. It is pretty simple to set up the new release with the features that you like, and avoid a potential conflict with previous versions to new releases.

I always unzip to a new directory and so assume it does what it needs to do when I run it the first time. The only thing I have set in the setup in version 35.01 is to use the internal x264 LAVF. In version 36.01 I turned on strict AVCHD after both videos I tried it on failed. It did not help. The video play's fine on the computer but the player tries to start the video then aborts and goes to the players top menu. So I then ran 35.01 on both videos again and burned them and they played fine with 35.01 I rebooted the computer between all conversions. Like I said in my other post I converted the video with both versions and the video that was created with 35.01 works fine when burned with the files created with both versions but the video created with 36.01 does not work with either.

setarip_old
8th November 2010, 08:53
@Shuttle99

Hi!

Actually, the log shows "--force-cfr", rather than "--force-crf" - which leads me to think that you typed the logs in your post rather than actually copying them and pasting the copies.

Perhaps you should post copied versions, just to be sure...

Shuttle99
8th November 2010, 13:28
@Shuttle99

Hi!

Actually, the log shows "--force-cfr", rather than "--force-crf" - which leads me to think that you typed the logs in your post rather than actually copying them and pasting the copies.

Perhaps you should post copied versions, just to be sure...

I copied and pasted so maybe thats where the problem is.

Remember 35.01 is the one that works fine, 36.01 does not work.

I did not touch or edit the files.

Thanks for catching it so maybe you found the problem.

Shuttle99

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 14:31
It appears the log shows that with version 35.01 force-crf is set, but not with 36.01. Yet bitrate shows 3759 for both. :confused:

@Shuttle99;
Do you let BD-RB create a new .ini file when you unzip the newest release? If not, you may want to try that. It is pretty simple to set up the new release with the features that you like, and avoid a potential conflict with previous versions to new releases. I removed "--force-cfr" from the command line -- I'd added it a couple of revisions ago in testing and forgot to remove it then. I don't think it's the issue, but...

@Shuttle99

Turn off LAVF and see if that fixes it.

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 14:35
@Shuttle99

Hi!

Actually, the log shows "--force-cfr", rather than "--force-crf" - which leads me to think that you typed the logs in your post rather than actually copying them and pasting the copies.

Perhaps you should post copied versions, just to be sure... "--force-cfr" is correct. That command tells X264 (when using LAVF) to generate it's own timecodes instead of using those from the source.

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 14:35
I copied and pasted so maybe thats where the problem is.

Remember 35.01 is the one that works fine, 36.01 does not work.
I did not touch or edit the files.

Thanks for catching it so maybe you found the problem.

Shuttle99 You don't need to keep repeating what you did, we're not morons and heard it the first 4 times.

PeteWalker74
8th November 2010, 14:40
Not a bug report, so let me first apologize for posting. I'm looking to you guys for recommended settings for Kick-Ass. When you backup this movie, what playlist do you choose for the movie-only backup? There are multiple ones here, and I'd prefer not to waste my time choosing the wrong one (which is what I think I did last time, by letting it choose it for me). Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :thanks:

colinhunt
8th November 2010, 14:53
I did several discs, the lastest being "Toy Story 3", and can't repeat the issue.
Since you have TS3, I gotta ask: have you tried to make a backup of disc 2? I tried a couple of times with 0.35.01 and got this:

[12:49:59] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D2
- Input BD size: 36,08 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:25:51.654]
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:50:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:50:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [13:03:48] Reencoding: VID_00066 (1 of 32)
- [13:03:48] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [13:06:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 147*533 frames
- Bitrate: 15*716 Kbs
- [13:06:04] Reencoding: VID_00066, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:20:16] Reencoding: VID_00066, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:52:30] Video Encode complete
- [16:52:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:52:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00066.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[16:55:12] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[23:43:50] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D2
- Input BD size: 20,49 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:43:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:43:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [00:01:32] Reencoding: VID_00066 (1 of 1)
- [00:01:32] Collecting video information
- [00:01:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [00:01:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:01:32] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:12:11]PHASE ONE complete
[00:12:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:12:11] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[00:15:55] - Failed to REBUILD

First try was a full backup and the second one was movie only. I'll try it on 0.36.1 later tonight.

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 15:15
Since you have TS3, I gotta ask: have you tried to make a backup of disc 2? I tried a couple of times with 0.35.01 and got this:

[12:49:59] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D2
- Input BD size: 36,08 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:25:51.654]
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:50:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:50:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [13:03:48] Reencoding: VID_00066 (1 of 32)
- [13:03:48] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [13:06:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 147*533 frames
- Bitrate: 15*716 Kbs
- [13:06:04] Reencoding: VID_00066, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:20:16] Reencoding: VID_00066, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:52:30] Video Encode complete
- [16:52:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:52:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00066.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[16:55:12] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[23:43:50] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D2
- Input BD size: 20,49 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:43:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:43:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [00:01:32] Reencoding: VID_00066 (1 of 1)
- [00:01:32] Collecting video information
- [00:01:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [00:01:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:01:32] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:12:11]PHASE ONE complete
[00:12:11]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:12:11] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[00:15:55] - Failed to REBUILD

First try was a full backup and the second one was movie only. I'll try it on 0.36.1 later tonight. I haven't tried it. I'll try it and see what happens. What tweaks are you using?

colinhunt
8th November 2010, 18:20
What tweaks are you using?
Just the ol' --tune film, nothing else.

gamete
8th November 2010, 19:41
with output DVD ,the structure is video_ts?

what resolution?

sorry for my bad english

Capsbackup
8th November 2010, 19:44
with output DVD ,the structure is video_ts?

what resolution?

sorry for my bad english

Yes, VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders ready to burn. ;)

micflair
8th November 2010, 19:47
Hey JDobbs, firstly thanks for the great work and support on the program, love ya :)

I have a problem with the latest build, while converting `Fringe Season 2' to BD25 it keeps crashing stating that `x264 has stopped working..' If I retry it will eventually do it, but it take maybe 10 retry's to get through it.

Ive tried using x264.exe from older versions of BD Rebuilder but get the same results, I've had no problems previously with the program.

Im going to try a different disc as a last resort to write off the problem being with the actual BD Rip, in the meantime do you have any advice?

Regards. Mick

gamete
8th November 2010, 20:32
resolution 720*576 or 1920*1080 ?

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 21:10
Hey JDobbs, firstly thanks for the great work and support on the program, love ya :)

I have a problem with the latest build, while converting `Fringe Season 2' to BD25 it keeps crashing stating that `x264 has stopped working..' If I retry it will eventually do it, but it take maybe 10 retry's to get through it.

Ive tried using x264.exe from older versions of BD Rebuilder but get the same results, I've had no problems previously with the program.

Im going to try a different disc as a last resort to write off the problem being with the actual BD Rip, in the meantime do you have any advice?

Regards. Mick Make sure you use the versions in the first post of this thread. Most of the time what appears to be X264 problems are actually caused in the frame serving.

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 21:12
resolution 720*576 or 1920*1080 ? DVD can't be 1920x1080 -- it would violate spec. HD resolutions would indicate BD-5/9 or AVCHD rather than DVD.

micflair
8th November 2010, 22:22
Make sure you use the versions in the first post of this thread. Most of the time what appears to be X264 problems are actually caused in the frame serving.

Okay mate, will have a good check on the versions im using and report back, thanks for your time.

Shuttle99
8th November 2010, 22:57
You don't need to keep repeating what you did, we're not morons and heard it the first 4 times.

The reason I made that stament is because he supossedly found a problem where there is no problem in 35.01 so I wanted to make sure he was aware the problem is with 36.01.

jdobbs
8th November 2010, 23:07
The reason I made that stament is because he supossedly found a problem where there is no problem in 35.01 so I wanted to make sure he was aware the problem is with 36.01. That setting is the only thing I can think that might be different. As I asked, try disabling LAVF -- as it would at least see if this is the related to your problem. If you want to try with LAVF on, you could also try adding this to the v0.36.01 INI file and see if it makes a difference:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--force-cfr
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--force-cfr

Panasonics are really picky (painfully so)... and it's possible that something this simple may make a difference.

Shuttle99
8th November 2010, 23:41
That setting is the only thing I can think that might be different. As I asked, try disabling LAVF -- as it would at least see if this is the related to your problem. If you want to try with LAVF on, you could also try adding this to the v0.36.01 INI file and see if it makes a difference:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--force-cfr
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--force-cfr

Panasonics are really picky (painfully so)... and it's possible that something this simple may make a difference.

Ok I have in checked the LAVF box and am re-doing it now. I have been having the box selected to use it since you added it to the program and it has been working with no problems. I have unchecked the box and report back when it is finished.

Thanks for your patience.

Shuttle99

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 00:07
Ok I have in checked the LAVF box and am re-doing it now. I have been having the box selected to use it since you added it to the program and it has been working with no problems. I have unchecked the box and report back when it is finished.

Thanks for your patience.

Shuttle99 No problem -- thanks for your help. Make sure, though, that you don't add the tweaks unless you have LAVF selected. The FORCE_CFR setting is only meant to work with LAVF.

Shuttle99
9th November 2010, 00:30
No problem -- thanks for your help. Make sure, though, that you don't add the tweaks unless you have LAVF selected. The FORCE_CFR setting is only meant to work with LAVF.

Ok got it, so if having it unchecked still does not work I will add the check and add the lines to the ini files and retry it again.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 00:51
Ok got it, so if having it unchecked still does not work I will add the check and add the lines to the ini files and retry it again. That's probably not necessary. If it doesn't work without LAVF, the problem has to be somewhere else.

colinhunt
9th November 2010, 03:01
Tried to do a movie-only (playlist 00800) backup of Toy Story 3 disc 2 with 0.36.01:

[19:22:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D2
- Input BD size: 20,49 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:22:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:22:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [19:38:37] Reencoding: VID_00066 (1 of 1)
- [19:38:37] Collecting video information
- [19:38:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:38:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:38:37] Multiplexing M2TS
[19:49:12]PHASE ONE complete
[19:49:12]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:49:12] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[19:53:09] - Failed to REBUILD

omegaman7
9th November 2010, 04:51
I'd like to know why some logs show:
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
while others show:
- Target BD size: 23.58 GB

Rather big difference if you ask me ;)

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 05:20
I'd like to know why some logs show:
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
while others show:
- Target BD size: 23.58 GB

Rather big difference if you ask me ;) European style decimal notation uses a "," while the U.S. uses "." -- it changes based on your Windows settings.

omegaman7
9th November 2010, 05:23
Ahh. Thanks for that. :o

gamete
9th November 2010, 07:20
DVD can't be 1920x1080 -- it would violate spec. HD resolutions would indicate BD-5/9 or AVCHD rather than DVD.


thanks jdobbs:o

hoju3508
9th November 2010, 09:29
0004.mpls. You can use BDInfo to get this info.

Not a bug report, so let me first apologize for posting. I'm looking to you guys for recommended settings for Kick-Ass. When you backup this movie, what playlist do you choose for the movie-only backup? There are multiple ones here, and I'd prefer not to waste my time choosing the wrong one (which is what I think I did last time, by letting it choose it for me). Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :thanks:

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 14:38
Ok got it, so if having it unchecked still does not work I will add the check and add the lines to the ini files and retry it again. Any luck running without LAVF?

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 15:10
I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I notice in the log it shows 640 kbit for audio even though the actual output is 448 dvd compliant ac3. That may skew it a bit undersized if the calc is assuming 640 kbit. You hit the nail on the head. I was adjusting to 448 in the output, but not in the sizing calculation. That causes a two hour movie to undersize by about 164MB

Thanks.

MrT.
9th November 2010, 18:33
thanks jdobbs for the update.
To update, all I need to do is delete the current(old) BD-RB folder, then maybe reboot? Then extract the new version to C:/ ? Would that be fine and adequate?

After extracting the new version, do I need to do this? ""'Note to Windows 7 Users: The first time (and only the first time) you run BD Rebuilder, you may have to "Run As Administrator". This is necessary so BD-RB can make CODEC preference changes in the Windows Registry."""

Or does it need to be done just the very first time I ever use BD-RB on this current Windows 7 install.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 19:24
thanks jdobbs for the update.
To update, all I need to do is delete the current(old) BD-RB folder, then maybe reboot? Then extract the new version to C:/ ? Would that be fine and adequate?

After extracting the new version, do I need to do this? ""'Note to Windows 7 Users: The first time (and only the first time) you run BD Rebuilder, you may have to "Run As Administrator". This is necessary so BD-RB can make CODEC preference changes in the Windows Registry."""

Or does it need to be done just the very first time I ever use BD-RB on this current Windows 7 install. Yep, that works fine.

You shouldn't have to "Run as Administrator" again. It only needs to update the registry the first time it is run. The only exception might be if you ran into problems because some other program changed them again.

MrT.
9th November 2010, 19:50
ok, thank you very much.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 21:25
Yes, they have .WAV on the end. Thanks.


Magpowerzip I'm running "Cars" now to see if I can repeat the .WAV issue.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 23:13
Yes, they have .WAV on the end. Thanks.


Magpowerzip I'm running "Cars" now to see if I can repeat the .WAV issue. I used the same settings as the ones you posted and it seems to have completed correctly. Not sure what I can do except to recommend that you try it again.

In the meantime, I'll do some testing on the output to make sure everything is right.

Shuttle99
10th November 2010, 00:40
Any luck running without LAVF?



I just burned the disc with LAVF unchecked and it work perfect.

Thanks
Shuttle99

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 15:25
I just burned the disc with LAVF unchecked and it work perfect.

Thanks
Shuttle99 Ok. That means that I probably need to put the "--force-cfr" back in for LAVF.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 16:42
I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.02). Changes for this revision:- Changed log output to not show target size when
ALTERNATE output is selected (it doesn't apply).
- Corrected an error in which certain combinations
of ALTERNATE movie-only, BD_SIZE and KEEP_HD
could result in blank audio-track(s) or failed
audio encoding for ALTERNATE output.
- Fixed incorrect reporting in the overall progress
bar when outputting to DVD via ALTERNATE.
- Corrected a resizing calculation error associated
with movie-only DVD targets.
- Fixed a regression in v0.36.1 that may cause
compatibility issues on Panasonic players when
using LAVF.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

setarip_old
10th November 2010, 17:27
Has anyone else encountered this?

Full disc backups of the Blu-ray series "The Pacific":

1) Burned discs play properly under PowerDVD (Of course, secondary ExpressDTS audio is silent/not present)

2) When burned discs are played on SONY 360, all preliminary activity leading up to the beginning of the main movie plays back properly, including audio. As soon as the main movie begins, there is no audio and neither audio nor subtitles can be accessed.

(Separate "movie-only" rips burned to dics play properly)

I can only guess that the SONY 360 is "gagging" on the presence or lack of presence of something to do with the DTSExpress audio.

If so, it's another reason to look forward to "jdobbs'" resolution of the DTSExpress "situation".

If it's due to something else, please advise...

Shuttle99
10th November 2010, 18:51
Ok. That means that I probably need to put the "--force-cfr" back in for LAVF.

I see you have new version and it shows a change to the LAVF so I take it you added to it what you wanted me to do manually. I will test one tonight and let you know if it fixed it.

Thanks,
Shuttle99

JJB
10th November 2010, 19:25
Has anyone else encountered this?

Full disc backups of the Blu-ray series "The Pacific":

1) Burned discs play properly under PowerDVD (Of course, secondary ExpressDTS audio is silent/not present)

2) When burned discs are played on SONY 360, all preliminary activity leading up to the beginning of the main movie plays back properly, including audio. As soon as the main movie begins, there is no audio and neither audio nor subtitles can be accessed.

(Separate "movie-only" rips burned to dics play properly)





I can only guess that the SONY 360 is "gagging" on the presence or lack of presence of something to do with the DTSExpress audio.

If so, it's another reason to look forward to "jdobbs'" resolution of the DTSExpress "situation".

If it's due to something else, please advise...


Nope same thing happened here on a Samsung player and Panasonic.

Thought it was something I did. Didn't bother me as it took to long to load and get to the episodes so I just put each episode on a BD5 for instant starts.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 19:35
I see you have new version and it shows a change to the LAVF so I take it you added to it what you wanted me to do manually. I will test one tonight and let you know if it fixed it.

Thanks,
Shuttle99 This one adds " --force-cfr" back for LAVF.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 19:36
Has anyone else encountered this?

Full disc backups of the Blu-ray series "The Pacific":

1) Burned discs play properly under PowerDVD (Of course, secondary ExpressDTS audio is silent/not present)

2) When burned discs are played on SONY 360, all preliminary activity leading up to the beginning of the main movie plays back properly, including audio. As soon as the main movie begins, there is no audio and neither audio nor subtitles can be accessed.

(Separate "movie-only" rips burned to dics play properly)

I can only guess that the SONY 360 is "gagging" on the presence or lack of presence of something to do with the DTSExpress audio.

If so, it's another reason to look forward to "jdobbs'" resolution of the DTSExpress "situation".

If it's due to something else, please advise... What firmware version are you using on the S360?

[Edit] Never mind. Based on JJB's post it looks like it affects more than just the S360.

Capsbackup
10th November 2010, 23:21
What firmware version are you using on the S360?

[Edit] Never mind. Based on JJB's post it looks like it affects more than just the S360.

This is what I reported months back, when burning full disc backups to DVD media, either BD5 or BD9. If the backup was burned to BD-R/RE, it works properly. If the original has PiP, the audio is silent and subtitles are not selectable when played back on Sony standalones. The audio and subtitles are there and work properly when played back with a PC with software players.
The consensus was, at that time, that it is a Sony firmware issue, since I believe some people reported proper playback on different mfg's standalones.
There is a workaround, but required the use of multiAVCHD.

EDIT:
@setarip_old;
you can check if this is what you are experiencing, starting from post #8765:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=439

jdobbs
11th November 2010, 00:19
This is what I reported months back, when burning full disc backups to DVD media, either BD5 or BD9. If the backup was burned to BD-R/RE, it works properly. If the original has PiP, the audio is silent and subtitles are not selectable when played back on Sony standalones. The audio and subtitles are there and work properly when played back with a PC with software players.
The consensus was, at that time, that it is a Sony firmware issue, since I believe some people reported proper playback on different mfg's standalones.
There is a workaround, but required the use of multiAVCHD.

EDIT:
@setarip_old;
you can check if this is what you are experiencing, starting from post #8765:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=439 I understood that post to mean it was happening on BD-25 -- if it is BD-5/9, then it is a known problem.

steveg32
11th November 2010, 02:24
@jdobbs

I just installed new version 0.36.02 then ran the inspect tool. FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO shows "Not recommended setting". This is a first for me as I always use only the recommended softwares from the 1st post. What should the correct setting be & where should I change it? Thanks.

-------------------------------

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

-------------------------------

Video Dude
11th November 2010, 02:31
I just installed new version 0.36.02 then ran the inspect tool. FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO shows "Not recommended setting".

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157862


After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".

Nalios
12th November 2010, 02:55
Tried running an encode today and at the second pass it fails and tells me that Haali is not the recommended version. I've done half a dozen other movies in the past week or so and they all ran fine up til now.

Reinstalled BD_rebuilder v0.36.02 reinstalled haali 1.9.42.1 still giving me the not recommended version for Haali.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 03:17
Tried running an encode today and at the second pass it fails and tells me that Haali is not the recommended version. I've done half a dozen other movies in the past week or so and they all ran fine up til now.

Reinstalled BD_rebuilder v0.36.02 reinstalled haali 1.9.42.1 still giving me the not recommended version for Haali. Uninstall HAALI and then download and use the version of HAALI in the first post of this thread... there are lots of versions of HAALI that don't work with certain types of video (for one reason or another). The one linked will work with everything.

[Edit] Whoops... 1.9.42.1 is the recommended one. You need to uninstall, then deleted the folder under "C:\Program Files" for HAALI's MediaSplitter -- then reinstall. The uninstall procedure leaves a bunch of stray files that makes BD-RB think it isn't the correct version.

worknstiff
12th November 2010, 15:22
I had a weird occurance with BD_RB 36.02 doing a movie only of Good_BD. The disk when loaded into BD_RB it shows a movie runtime of 1:36.01 but after movie is converted it now has a runtime of 1:36.14. The movie is fine, no sync problems and it continues playing a black screen after the 1:36.01 mark for an additional 13 seconds. Don't know yet if this happens on any other titles but this is weird that it would continue running past the original runtime.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 15:25
I had a weird occurance with BD_RB 36.02 doing a movie only of Good_BD. The disk when loaded into BD_RB it shows a movie runtime of 1:36.01 but after movie is converted it now has a runtime of 1:36.14. The movie is fine, no sync problems and it continues playing a black screen after the 1:36.01 mark for an additional 13 seconds. Don't know yet if this happens on any other titles but this is weird that it would continue running past the original runtime. The length time shown is BD-RB is an estimate. It's might be possible that the M2TS is a little longer than the MPLS's start and end time (that's where the length estimate is pulled). Just for clarity's sake, you could look at the VID_XXXX.AVS file and see what it says for framecount.

I've seen several multi-part movies where an intro segment is longer than the MPLS time states. BD-RB actually does checks on multi-part movies and corrects when it finds goofiness like that. A single M2TS/CLPI set can be referenced from more than one playlist, and all don't necessarily have to play the entire clip.

lithiumus
12th November 2010, 18:11
Back in 24.06 the option to not process Secondary video was removed. Is there a way to "unselect" the secondary video in Full Backup mode?

micflair
12th November 2010, 18:45
greetings all.

Still having problems with Fringe Season 2, Ive installed the new build, with the recommended software from the front page and Im still getting `x264' problems as described before. the inspect.exe program reports everything is installed fine and settings are correct.

Is there any log file I can put up here to help you guys help me out? :)

Cheers, Mick

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 19:17
greetings all.

Still having problems with Fringe Season 2, Ive installed the new build, with the recommended software from the front page and Im still getting `x264' problems as described before. the inspect.exe program reports everything is installed fine and settings are correct.

Is there any log file I can put up here to help you guys help me out? :)

Cheers, MickIs your system overclocked? The fact that it crashes at different points, and shows no consistency almost assures that it is a system problem.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 19:59
Back in 24.06 the option to not process Secondary video was removed. Is there a way to "unselect" the secondary video in Full Backup mode? Sorry, but no. Removing it causes more problems than it solves.

SpazzHH
12th November 2010, 20:43
Any idea on why I would get the standard AVS error of RenderFile with all correct versions installed and be able to play the file itself with any media player I choose? This has to be something really strange. I've re-installed Haali, ffdshow and AviSynth til I'm blue. Still get the same message with Sound of Music. Only disc to give me problems.

setarip_old
12th November 2010, 20:47
@Capsbackup

Hi! EDIT:
@setarip_old;
you can check if this is what you are experiencing, starting from post #8765:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=439 The post this link goes to, as well as the several following, appear to be about menu buttons - which, as far as I know, has nothing to do with what I posted...

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 21:07
Any idea on why I would get the standard AVS error of RenderFile with all correct versions installed and be able to play the file itself with any media player I choose? This has to be something really strange. I've re-installed Haali, ffdshow and AviSynth til I'm blue. Still get the same message with Sound of Music. Only disc to give me problems.You might try setting Raw Video to "All Supported" in your FFDSHOW video setup.

SpazzHH
12th November 2010, 21:48
Thanks for the reply. I tried the setting change, no joy. This has me totally bumfuzzled. Every player I have will play the M2TS, so it doesn't seem to be a codec issue. For the life of me, I can't figure this one out. I get exactly the same thing on another machine.

micflair
12th November 2010, 22:08
Is your system overclocked? The fact that it crashes at different points, and shows no consistency almost assures that it is a system problem.

no its not mate! I had no problems at all untill the last build. Trying a different image now to see if its a problem in that area! Hope it is, sorta!

Nalios
12th November 2010, 22:22
Any idea on why I would get the standard AVS error of RenderFile with all correct versions installed and be able to play the file itself with any media player I choose? This has to be something really strange. I've re-installed Haali, ffdshow and AviSynth til I'm blue. Still get the same message with Sound of Music. Only disc to give me problems.

My problem stemmed from attempting to encode Sound of Music as well. I made no version changes at all after posting as it was processing another attempt already. This time it worked successfully without any errors.

However I'm still getting a flag for the incorrect Haali version even though its the one from the link in first post. Green Zone just finshed successfully even with the error flag..

Baffled why it tells me Haali is incorrect. I guess I'll keep going as is til it quits again.

Capsbackup
13th November 2010, 00:50
@Capsbackup

Hi! The post this link goes to, as well as the several following, appear to be about menu buttons - which, as far as I know, has nothing to do with what I posted...

You did not read down far enough. Starting from post #8765 I discuss using multiAVCHD to substitute/use an external audio file, the original for the title though, and rebuild it. This only applies to BD5/9 media though!

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 02:09
My problem stemmed from attempting to encode Sound of Music as well. I made no version changes at all after posting as it was processing another attempt already. This time it worked successfully without any errors.

However I'm still getting a flag for the incorrect Haali version even though its the one from the link in first post. Green Zone just finshed successfully even with the error flag..

Baffled why it tells me Haali is incorrect. I guess I'll keep going as is til it quits again. If you have ever installed a different version of HAALI there are probably files left over that are causing BD-RB to think it is incorrect. HAALI's uninstall doesn't remove everything.

Here's what you can do:

1. Uninstall HAALI.

2. Go to "c:\program files\haali" and delete the "MatroskSplitter" folder

3. Reinstall the HAALI version from the first post.

After that INSPECT should say "Ok" for HAALI.

omegaman7
13th November 2010, 02:13
I never trust uninstallers. For whatever reason, there's usually something left behind in the programs folders. And always left behind in the registry. Gotta be careful with the registry mind you ;)

drackula
13th November 2010, 03:46
I found this problem.

[09:43:08] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:27.541]
- Target BD size: 23.24 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[09:43:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:43:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (49023 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[09:54:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

How do I solve the problem. Thank You.

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 06:18
I found this problem.

[09:43:08] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:27.541]
- Target BD size: 23.24 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[09:43:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:43:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (49023 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[09:54:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

How do I solve the problem. Thank You.Is this from an original disc? Most of the time that indicates a bad rip. If you ripped it, was it with AnyDVD?

steveg32
13th November 2010, 09:03
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157862

Thanks very much for the prompt reply. :thanks:

buerste3
13th November 2010, 11:57
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

Please tell me what i can do.

I installed the K-Lite Codec Pack.

New system with Windows 7 and i need a little help.

Nalios
13th November 2010, 14:14
If you have ever installed a different version of HAALI there are probably files left over that are causing BD-RB to think it is incorrect. HAALI's uninstall doesn't remove everything.

Here's what you can do:

1. Uninstall HAALI.

2. Go to "c:\program files\haali" and delete the "MatroskSplitter" folder

3. Reinstall the HAALI version from the first post.

After that INSPECT should say "Ok" for HAALI.

I'll try deleting the matroska folder and reinstalling. I know better than to assume that uninstall ever removes all the garbage from the install. I usually manually search and delete all the crap left from an auto uninstall and did not this time, rather just installed over the old folder. Geez, I wonder what my problem is? Lol.

*sigh* shortcuts always end up taking longer..

Thanks for setting me straight.

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 14:58
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

Please tell me what i can do.

I installed the K-Lite Codec Pack.

New system with Windows 7 and i need a little help. To avoid problems you have to follow the directions in the first post of this thread or in the README files that is included in the BD Rebuilder zip file.

The first time you run BD-RB you have to "Run as Administrator" and BD Rebuilder will update those settings in the registry.

Ch3vr0n
13th November 2010, 15:26
What jdobss said, and uninstall that codec pack. Its bound to create problems with BDRB

Acerjen
13th November 2010, 19:54
I used the same settings as the ones you posted and it seems to have completed correctly. Not sure what I can do except to recommend that you try it again.

In the meantime, I'll do some testing on the output to make sure everything is right.


I appreciate you looking into it. I will re-rip it and try again with the new version. Thanks. Later.


magpowerzip

red23wolf
14th November 2010, 17:00
Good morning all, I have been having the same error with 3 different movies, Getting into the Greek, Toy Story 3 and Robin Hood. I'm just a novice so I will try to give as much detail as I can. First I use AnyDvd to rip the Blu-rays. When I use BD Rebuilder to convert to fit on a DVD (movie only) when it gets to multiplexing it aborts. Here is the log when I did Robin Hood. All 3 movies aborted at the same spot


[23:05:45] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I attached the log to show, seems it was to big to fit in a post. Any help would be much appreciated.

jdobbs
14th November 2010, 17:12
Good morning all, I have been having the same error with 3 different movies, Getting into the Greek, Toy Story 3 and Robin Hood. I'm just a novice so I will try to give as much detail as I can. First I use AnyDvd to rip the Blu-rays. When I use BD Rebuilder to convert to fit on a DVD (movie only) when it gets to multiplexing it aborts. Here is the log when I did Robin Hood. All 3 movies aborted at the same spot


[23:05:45] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I attached the log to show, seems it was to big to fit in a post. Any help would be much appreciated. Could be any of a lot of reasons. BD-RB goes through that exact same sequence for all M2TS files, in yours if finishes 38 successfully before hitting it. Are you sure you're not running out of disc space? Is your source corrupted?

BTW, I've done all three of those discs with no problems.

micflair
14th November 2010, 17:58
no its not mate! I had no problems at all untill the last build. Trying a different image now to see if its a problem in that area! Hope it is, sorta!

I tried a different image mate and it worked 100% fine the first try, must be something on that disc it does not like.. wierd!

alluringreality
14th November 2010, 21:08
Is it possible to set the following x264 items? I have tried some other options that work, but these seem to be ignored:
--colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709"

jdobbs
14th November 2010, 21:30
Is it possible to set the following x264 items? I have tried some other options that work, but these seem to be ignored:
--colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" I'll do a little research -- but I really think they are unnecessary since those are the ones that are and will be used in the source and the destination.

You can add them if you want with the pass one and two tweak commands (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT).

alluringreality
14th November 2010, 21:49
You can add them if you want with the pass one and two tweak commands (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT).

That's what I was trying. I was able to get other settings to work, but after trying the syntax a few different ways I couldn't get those settings. I couldn't think of what else to try, and they work fine using MeGUI.

jdobbs
14th November 2010, 22:04
That's what I was trying. I was able to get other settings to work, but after trying the syntax a few different ways I couldn't get those settings. I couldn't think of what else to try, and they work fine using MeGUI.You should be able to enter them like this:

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--colorprim bt709 --transfer bt709 --colormatrix bt709

[EDIT]
Ok, I went and looked and I've put these in the "restricted" list. But I can't remember why... I'll go through my old notes and see if I can remember why I restricted their use.

shon3i
14th November 2010, 23:26
[EDIT]
Ok, I went and looked and I've put these in the "restricted" list. But I can't remember why... I'll go through my old notes and see if I can remember why I restricted their use. Because depend of resolution, look here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533 at section 1.4. Anyway color characteristics are not mandatory for BD, and decoder in BD device will automaticlly assume characteristics based on resolution. that is specified in specs.

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 00:12
Because depend of resolution, look here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154533 at section 1.4. Anyway color characteristics are not mandatory for BD, and decoder in BD device will automaticlly assume characteristics based on resolution. that is specified in specs.Oh yeah. If you add that to all encodes, it could screw up the color characteristics of SD components of a disc.

red23wolf
15th November 2010, 00:16
I have about 200GB space free so I don't think that is it. I also deleted and reripped Toy Story 3 and tried again with the same result. What are your BD RB settings maybe mine are not correct. I did find out that I had the older version of BD RB and I installed the new one and again same result. Again here is the log I have

-----------------------
[17:42:22] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_DISC_1
- Input BD size: 27.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:42:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:42:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:42:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [17:42:45] Reencoding: VID_00323 (8 of 47)
- [17:42:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,995 frames
- Bitrate: 4,647 Kbs
- [17:42:45] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:43:56] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:46:02] Video Encode complete
- [17:46:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:46:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [17:46:06] Reencoding: VID_00301 (9 of 47)
- [17:46:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 649 frames
- Bitrate: 4,753 Kbs
- [17:46:06] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:46:30] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:47:15] Video Encode complete
- [17:47:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:47:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [17:47:21] Reencoding: VID_00324 (10 of 47)
- [17:47:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,185 frames
- Bitrate: 4,730 Kbs
- [17:47:21] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:48:04] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:49:27] Video Encode complete
- [17:49:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:49:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302]
- [17:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00302 (11 of 47)
- [17:49:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,738 frames
- Bitrate: 4,800 Kbs
- [17:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00302, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:50:36] Reencoding: VID_00302, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:52:32] Video Encode complete
- [17:52:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:52:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [17:52:36] Reencoding: VID_00325 (12 of 47)
- [17:52:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 523 frames
- Bitrate: 5,672 Kbs
- [17:52:36] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:52:57] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:53:39] Video Encode complete
- [17:53:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:53:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00303]
- [17:53:45] Reencoding: VID_00303 (13 of 47)
- [17:53:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,030 frames
- Bitrate: 5,494 Kbs
- [17:53:45] Reencoding: VID_00303, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:54:27] Reencoding: VID_00303, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:55:38] Video Encode complete
- [17:55:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:55:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
- [17:55:48] Reencoding: VID_00326 (14 of 47)
- [17:55:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,027 frames
- Bitrate: 4,940 Kbs
- [17:55:48] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:57:02] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:59:11] Video Encode complete
- [17:59:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:59:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00304]
- [17:59:20] Reencoding: VID_00304 (15 of 47)
- [17:59:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,823 frames
- Bitrate: 5,029 Kbs
- [17:59:20] Reencoding: VID_00304, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:00:27] Reencoding: VID_00304, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:02:41] Video Encode complete
- [18:02:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:02:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [18:02:46] Reencoding: VID_00327 (16 of 47)
- [18:02:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 746 frames
- Bitrate: 5,244 Kbs
- [18:02:46] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:03:15] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:04:09] Video Encode complete
- [18:04:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:04:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
- [18:04:13] Reencoding: VID_00305 (17 of 47)
- [18:04:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 638 frames
- Bitrate: 4,609 Kbs
- [18:04:13] Reencoding: VID_00305, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:04:36] Reencoding: VID_00305, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:05:16] Video Encode complete
- [18:05:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:05:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [18:05:22] Reencoding: VID_00328 (18 of 47)
- [18:05:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,018 frames
- Bitrate: 5,072 Kbs
- [18:05:22] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:05:59] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:07:07] Video Encode complete
- [18:07:07] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:07:09] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I did try another movie called After Life with no problems. So I am just lost...

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 00:23
I ripped "Toy Story 3" with AnyDVD and backed it up (full, ALTERNATE, and movie-only) with no issues. Try posting your INI and I'll see if there is anything different I need to try.

CV91913
15th November 2010, 00:36
Had nothing to do today so I decided to test the new alternate DVD output option. I used a BD25 directory structure that was previously created with BDRB (Spider-Man). The process went smoothly and with no errors. The first thing I noticed was that the size of the Video_TS directory that was created was 4.93 GB. So, I can't create DVD unless I run it through CloneDVD and compress it (CloneDVD reports 87% compression.) I was able to play the Video_TS on the computer and the picture looked great but the sound was ahead of the video. Without compressing the output I can't test the sound on a standalone player but I will do the compression and test it if you would like. Here are the logs, etc...


- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Set to "All Supported", Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

-----------------------
[09:58:12] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
- Source: SPIDER_MAN
- Input BD size: 21.83 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:01:12.287]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:58:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:58:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [10:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [10:08:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 174,360 frames
- Bitrate: 4,518 Kbs
- [10:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00000
- [14:03:09] Video Encode complete
- [14:03:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:05:15] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:05:15]PHASE ONE complete
[14:05:15]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:05:15] Rebuilding stream 00000 [1 of 1]
- [14:05:15] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [14:07:12] Starting MPLEX.
- [14:10:33] Building DVD File Structure.
[14:14:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[14:14:24]JOB: SPIDER_MAN finished.

[Status]
LABEL=SPIDER_MAN
VERSION=v0.36.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=23443316736
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23443316736
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.199890066613482
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4686086144
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Video_TS File Structure 4.93 GB (5,300,649,984) SIZE ON DISK

VIDEO_TS.BUP 6 KB
VIDEO_TS.IFO 6 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP 78 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO 78 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB 1,048,544 KB 00:21:02
VTS_01_2.VOB 1,048,544 KB 00:21:02
VTS_01_3.VOB 1,048,544 KB 00:21:02
VTS_01_4.VOB 1,048,544 KB 00:21:02
VTS_01_5.VOB 982,062 KB 00:27:51

red23wolf
15th November 2010, 01:26
Ok here is the Inspection of BD RB

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Hope this helps...

Thanks agian

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 02:01
Had nothing to do today so I decided to test the new alternate DVD output option. I used a BD25 directory structure that was previously created with BDRB (Spider-Man). The process went smoothly and with no errors. The first thing I noticed was that the size of the Video_TS directory that was created was 4.93 GB. So, I can't create DVD unless I run it through CloneDVD and compress it (CloneDVD reports 87% compression.) I was able to play the Video_TS on the computer and the picture looked great but the sound was ahead of the video. Without compressing the output I can't test the sound on a standalone player but I will do the compression and test it if you would like. Here are the logs, etc...

Hmmm... all mine are coming in right around 4.3GB and perfect sync. Is yours NTSC or PAL?

CV91913
15th November 2010, 02:43
Hmmm... all mine are coming in right around 4.3GB and perfect sync. Is yours NTSC or PAL?

NTSC...I saw the "assume PAL" in the settings but it is not checked.

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 04:15
NTSC...I saw the "assume PAL" in the settings but it is not checked. Ok. I have the NTSC version of "SPIDERMAN" (I assume it was the first one) , I'll give it a go and see how it comes out for me. You say you ran it through BD-RB before the encode? Was it a full or movie-only backup?

CV91913
15th November 2010, 05:32
Ok. I have the NTSC version of "SPIDERMAN" (I assume it was the first one) , I'll give it a go and see how it comes out for me. You say you ran it through BD-RB before the encode? Was it a full or movie-only backup?

Yup...the first one. It was run through as a BD25 movie only with english AC3 multi-channel and two english subtitles. BTW...I think that BD25 was done with 35.01 so it might be slightly smaller than if you do it with 36.02.

alluringreality
15th November 2010, 05:45
Oh yeah. If you add that to all encodes, it could screw up the color characteristics of SD components of a disc.

Thanks anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some other way to re-encode the video so it remains flagged. Apparently there are some players that decode HD video differently depending if it is flagged or unflagged. To error on the safe side, the decision had been to go ahead and flag the video, even if it doesn't affect most players.

PurpleMan
15th November 2010, 09:32
@jdobbs:

Just did "Pan's Labyrinth" UK edition full-disc backup with 0.36.2 with x264's internal LAVF decoding.

The resulted main-movie stream on the disc was out of sync with the untouched audio and subtitles.

I'm now doing it with regular directshow decoding and will report how it goes, though I must say I'm rather curious what caused this. As far as I can tell, the source file of the main movie isn't hybrid, but a regular 23.976 fps VC1.

The only odd thing worth noting is that some streams on the disc (notably special features) are 576i/p 25fps while the main movie is 23.976.

I'd investigate the input stream further if you can help me with the 'how'. I wanted to use a tool like DGIndex to look at the source file, but I don't have a license for DGVC1DecNV.

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 14:36
Thanks anyway, I guess I'll have to come up with some other way to re-encode the video so it remains flagged. Apparently there are some players that decode HD video differently depending if it is flagged or unflagged. To error on the safe side, the decision had been to go ahead and flag the video, even if it doesn't affect most players. Not if they follow the specifications (at least for bt709) -- which they must in order to be certified. Same with DVD. They could treat it differently -- but only if it is flagged to not be bt709.

PurpleMan
15th November 2010, 15:10
@jdobbs:

Just did "Pan's Labyrinth" UK edition full-disc backup with 0.36.2 with x264's internal LAVF decoding.

The resulted main-movie stream on the disc was out of sync with the untouched audio and subtitles.

I'm now doing it with regular directshow decoding and will report how it goes, though I must say I'm rather curious what caused this. As far as I can tell, the source file of the main movie isn't hybrid, but a regular 23.976 fps VC1.

The only odd thing worth noting is that some streams on the disc (notably special features) are 576i/p 25fps while the main movie is 23.976.

I'd investigate the input stream further if you can help me with the 'how'. I wanted to use a tool like DGIndex to look at the source file, but I don't have a license for DGVC1DecNV.

Update: finished encoding with regular directshow ffdshow decoding. Unfortunately - still won't sync =/

Update 2: Thanks to ffdshow's OSD of frame information, I can confirm that the source is, in fact, hybrid. There are studio logos in the beginning which alternate from PROGRESSIVE to INTERALCED and vice versa.

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 15:17
Update: finished encoding with regular directshow ffdshow decoding. Unfortunately - still won't sync =/

Update 2: Thanks to ffdshow's OSD of frame information, I can confirm that the source is, in fact, hybrid. There are studio logos in the beginning which alternate from PROGRESSIVE to INTERALCED and vice versa. Did BD-RB detect that it as hybrid ("**" after the fps in the streams list)?

PurpleMan
15th November 2010, 15:23
Did BD-RB detect that it as hybrid ("**" after the fps in the streams list)?

Apparently I was wrong, I just noticed that what I considered alternating from frame type P to frame type I in ffdshow's OSD was just the text flickering fast.

bd-rb detects it as 23.976 1080p, and as far as I can tell right now (with lack of better tools) - it seems like it's right.

The avs script it genereated for the encode is simple enough (directshowsource), and opening the original m2ts in media player classic plays fine using the same directshow filters that are used for the encode (I guess). What on earth could be causing this to unsync on both cases? (internal x264 decoding AND directshow).

Audio and subs remain in sync, so I presume the problem is with the encoded video (plus, I left the DTS-HD track untouched).

Any idea?

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 15:38
Apparently I was wrong, I just noticed that what I considered alternating from frame type P to frame type I in ffdshow's OSD was just the text flickering fast.

bd-rb detects it as 23.976 1080p, and as far as I can tell right now (with lack of better tools) - it seems like it's right.

The avs script it genereated for the encode is simple enough (directshowsource), and opening the original m2ts in media player classic plays fine using the same directshow filters that are used for the encode (I guess). What on earth could be causing this to unsync on both cases? (internal x264 decoding AND directshow).

Audio and subs remain in sync, so I presume the problem is with the encoded video (plus, I left the DTS-HD track untouched).

Any idea?I'll see if I can find "Pan's Labyrinth" and run it.

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 15:39
Yup...the first one. It was run through as a BD25 movie only with english AC3 multi-channel and two english subtitles. BTW...I think that BD25 was done with 35.01 so it might be slightly smaller than if you do it with 36.02. I just checked the output (same sequence as yours) for the job I ran overnight, and it is in perfect sync for me. I did find a bug while looking at this, but it is completely unrelated to your issue.

alluringreality
15th November 2010, 15:41
Not if they follow the specifications (at least for bt709) -- which they must in order to be certified.

I think it was just a few digital media player type of devices. I've personally seen software players that mess up decodes, so we were just being cautious. Thanks again for the reply about the hidden settings.

CV91913
15th November 2010, 15:52
I just checked the output (same sequence as yours) for the job I ran overnight, and it is in perfect sync for me. I did find a bug while looking at this, but it is completely unrelated to your issue.

I seem to remember another thread where you were testing the use of a newer version of the Matroska splitter...which one did you use for this test? How about the size? Was that OK?

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 16:04
I seem to remember another thread where you were testing the use of a newer version of the Matroska splitter...which one did you use for this test? How about the size? Was that OK?The size was 4.29GB.

I don't see a connection Matroska Splitter with resizing or sync errors.

I'd suggest you remove BD-RB and all helper apps and reinstall. Also remove any CODEC packs you may be using. The most likely candidate for this is a CODEC issue.

diver90
15th November 2010, 16:40
Having trouble with CARS - Trying to make a movie only copy on BD-R 25G disk. Here are the log files and a big thank you for any help you can provide...

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[08:49:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
- Source: CARS_USA
- Input BD size: 27.21 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:35.988]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:49:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:49:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- [09:14:26] Reencoding: VID_00060 (1 of 1)
- [09:14:26] Collecting video information
- [09:14:26] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:14:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:20:44] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:38:18]PHASE ONE complete
[09:38:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:38:18] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[10:06:31] - Failed to REBUILD

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 17:09
Having trouble with CARS - Trying to make a movie only copy on BD-R 25G disk. Here are the log files and a big thank you for any help you can provide...

-----------------------
[08:49:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
- Source: CARS_USA
- Input BD size: 27.21 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:35.988]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[08:49:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:49:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- [09:14:26] Reencoding: VID_00060 (1 of 1)
- [09:14:26] Collecting video information
- [09:14:26] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [09:14:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:20:44] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:38:18]PHASE ONE complete
[09:38:18]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:38:18] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[10:06:31] - Failed to REBUILD I've done that exact disc as least 5-10 times with no issues. What X264 tweaks are enabled?

diver90
15th November 2010, 17:27
I've done that exact disc as least 5-10 times with no issues. What X264 tweaks are enabled?

TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--force-cfr
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--force-cfr

Turn LAVF off?

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 18:12
TWEAK_PASS_ONE=--force-cfr
TWEAK_PASS_TWO=--force-cfr

Turn LAVF off? You need to get rid of those. In v0.36.02 that parameter is already in the command line when it needs to be, and it shouldn't be there for sources that aren't using LAVF. A note to remember is that even though you may have LAVF selected -- there are times when it won't be used (out of necessity).

I have no idea if that is related to your problem, though (probably not).

diver90
15th November 2010, 18:40
You need to get rid of those. In v0.36.02 that parameter is already in the command line when it needs to be, and it shouldn't be there for sources that aren't using LAVF. A note to remember is that even though you may have LAVF selected -- there are times when it won't be used (out of necessity).

I have no idea if that is related to your problem, though (probably not).

I have removed them and will try again with LAVF on and then off. Any other ideas in the interim?

jdobbs
15th November 2010, 18:54
I have removed them and will try again with LAVF on and then off. Any other ideas in the interim?Post the contents of you BDREBUILDER.INI file (in the BD-RB installation folder) so I can see if anything stands out as a possible cause.

diver90
15th November 2010, 20:20
Post the contents of you BDREBUILDER.INI file (in the BD-RB installation folder) so I can see if anything stands out as a possible cause.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\BD\1-BD\CARS_USA\
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD\BD REBUILDER TEMP\

PurpleMan
15th November 2010, 20:30
I'll see if I can find "Pan's Labyrinth" and run it.

Thanks. In further efforts to get to the bottom of this, I opened VID_00033.avs (BD-RB generated) in VirtualDub (which points to the original m2ts file, VC1).

I have also copied this AVS to another one, and changed the source file inside to point to the encoded BD-RB file (h264).

I then began going frame-by-frame to see where things get bad. I've found out that on the encoded file there are certain frames (very little, for instance - the first one is #3640) that appear TWICE one after another (Shifting the rest of the movie).

The extremely weird thing is that on the AVS that bd-rb used (the one pointing to the original m2ts) - the frames appeared correctly in VirtualDub - no doubles!

So if the source AVS opens correctly, how the hell did the encoded file get all f***ed up? It actually makes sense that the decoding wasn't the problem - after all, internal x264 decoding caused a similar result.

A penny for your thoughts, jdobbs?

I want to continue investigating this. Got a direction?

Update: Thanks to a friend's vc1 dgindex, I can confirm that there is absolutely nothing special about the stream, it's completely progressive 1920:1088 w/ crop flag (to 1920x1080) - which is very much standard to VC1 streams. :/

picrade
16th November 2010, 07:23
I used BDRB to do a movie only BD-25 backup of Charade (Criterion), and the encoded BD was over sized.
Way over sized. It was about 800 MB over BD-25 limit.

After some digging I traced it to the audio track. It is LPCM 1 channel.
I chose to keep the LPCM track.
The problem is the demuxed wav file is about 900 MB, but scanning the BD with BDInfo shows that the audio track
takes twice as much space (about 1.8 Gig) in the m2ts stream.

Also on the main screen of BDInfo it shows the LPCM has a bit rate of 1152 kbs.
But after doing a bit rate scan it shows a bit rate of 2304 (double) in the report.
It is the same with the original disc.

The problem is BDRB calculates the video bit rate (and size of the output BD) based on the size of the wav file.
But after muxing it takes twice the size in the m2ts stream.

I never had problem going over size when keeping other lossless audio formats, Dolby or DTS.
This was my first try with LPCM.

Is there something peculiar about the LPCM audio that requires twice as much space when muxing?
Or is this an unusual case?

P.S. I solved the problem by setting the custom size to 1 Gig less than usual and re-encoded again.
This time the result was within the BD-25 limit.

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 14:33
I used BDRB to do a movie only BD-25 backup of Charade (Criterion), and the encoded BD was over sized.
Way over sized. It was about 800 MB over BD-25 limit.

After some digging I traced it to the audio track. It is LPCM 1 channel.
I chose to keep the LPCM track.
The problem is the demuxed wav file is about 900 MB, but scanning the BD with BDInfo shows that the audio track
takes twice as much space (about 1.8 Gig) in the m2ts stream.

Also on the main screen of BDInfo it shows the LPCM has a bit rate of 1152 kbs.
But after doing a bit rate scan it shows a bit rate of 2304 (double) in the report.
It is the same with the original disc.

The problem is BDRB calculates the video bit rate (and size of the output BD) based on the size of the wav file.
But after muxing it takes twice the size in the m2ts stream.

I never had problem going over size when keeping other lossless audio formats, Dolby or DTS.
This was my first try with LPCM.

Is there something peculiar about the LPCM audio that requires twice as much space when muxing?
Or is this an unusual case?

P.S. I solved the problem by setting the custom size to 1 Gig less than usual and re-encoded again.
This time the result was within the BD-25 limit. I've never heard of anything like that. I did a lot of testing during development to see what the M2TS overhead was for all the audio/video types. For LPCM is was typically a little less than 15%. It has worked well on every LPCM encode I've done. I can't imagine a 100% overhead for any kind of audio track.

setarip_old
16th November 2010, 15:29
@jdobbs

Regarding the post by "picrade" - Is it possible that the LPCM one channel audiostream is being converted to two channel stereo?

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 15:32
@jdobbs

Regarding the post by "picrade" - Is it possible that the LPCM one channel audiostream is being converted to two channel stereo? Definitely not if it is being kept intact. The size allocation is based upon the actual WAV file that is to be muxed. In his case he is saying that file doubles as a part of the mux. I'll look around to see if I can find a mono LPCM disc to test -- I think "Stagecoach" may be.

PurpleMan
16th November 2010, 17:09
@jdobbs:

I am pleased to announce that I got to the bottom of the problem with Pan's Labyrinth - and I've found the bug in BD-Rebuilder! :)

Apparently, the video was not the problem, it was flawless. What led me to the wrong conclusions I posted here is the poor performance of virtualdub and avisynth directshow decoding/seeking.

Anyway - the problem is that the DTS track on the original disc is muxed with a 1010ms delay. Inspecing BD-RB's meta file revealed that even though the audio file remained untouched, BD-RB did not copy the delay, and just muxed it as-is.

I remuxed it manually with the original-disc delay of 1010ms - and viola - perfect sync.

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 17:30
@jdobbs:

I am pleased to announce that I got to the bottom of the problem with Pan's Labyrinth - and I've found the bug in BD-Rebuilder! :)

Apparently, the video was not the problem, it was flawless. What led me to the wrong conclusions I posted here is the poor performance of virtualdub and avisynth directshow decoding/seeking.

Anyway - the problem is that the DTS track on the original disc is muxed with a 1010ms delay. Inspecing BD-RB's meta file revealed that even though the audio file remained untouched, BD-RB did not copy the delay, and just muxed it as-is.

I remuxed it manually with the original-disc delay of 1010ms - and viola - perfect sync. I'll try "Pan's Labyrinth" to see what happens -- but BD Rebuilder very definitely finds and adjusts for delays. That was added in v0.29.04.

PurpleMan
16th November 2010, 17:41
I'll try "Pan's Labyrinth" to see what happens -- but BD Rebuilder very definitely finds and adjusts for delays. That was added in v0.29.04.

I know you added it on v0.29.04 (If I recall correctly, I had something to do with it). Which makes me think that there's some reason that on this specific disc it didn't work. So what's different?

The only thing I can think of is that when I loaded the disc in BD-RB, it automatically unchecked the Spanish DTS track (original language, this is a Spanish movie) audio and checked only the English commentary track. I had to manually uncheck the English track and recheck the Spanish DTS track before I started processing. Could this be why it 'forgot' the audio delay?

I am, however, a 100% positive about this (ran this thru bd-rb 4 times, in 4 different work folders, resulted in 4 identical meta files - without the delay flag in it).

Also, just to be triple sure - When I open the original file in tsmuxer (GUI), it auto detects the delay and writes it in its generated meta-file, as well as DGIndex mentioning the delay on the filename of the demuxed audio. MUX_00033.meta, however, does not include it.

If all this information still isn't useful and you end up getting the disc - make sure you get the UK edition.

Hope this helped!

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 18:05
I know you added it on v0.29.04 (If I recall correctly, I had something to do with it). Which makes me think that there's some reason that on this specific disc it didn't work. So what's different?

The only thing I can think of is that when I loaded the disc in BD-RB, it automatically unchecked the Spanish DTS track (original language, this is a Spanish movie) audio and checked only the English commentary track. I had to manually uncheck the English track and recheck the Spanish DTS track before I started processing. Could this be why it 'forgot' the audio delay?

I am, however, a 100% positive about this (ran this thru bd-rb 4 times, in 4 different work folders, resulted in 4 identical meta files - without the delay flag in it).

Also, just to be triple sure - When I open the original file in tsmuxer (GUI), it auto detects the delay and writes it in its generated meta-file, as well as DGIndex mentioning the delay on the filename of the demuxed audio. MUX_00033.meta, however, does not include it.

If all this information still isn't useful and you end up getting the disc - make sure you get the UK edition.

Hope this helped!Hmmm... don't remember if I adjust for that. I'll check the code and see.

[Edit] Yep. That's it. It is only scanning the selected audio streams, and the scan isn't redone when you check/uncheck. That was silly...

Thanks for the report and analysis. Much appreciated. It'll be fixed in the next release.

PurpleMan
16th November 2010, 19:01
Hmmm... don't remember if I adjust for that. I'll check the code and see.

[Edit] Yep. That's it. It is only scanning the selected audio streams, and the scan isn't redone when you check/uncheck. That was silly...

Thanks for the report and analysis. Much appreciated. It'll be fixed in the next release.

Happy to help, as always! :)

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 19:09
I have removed them and will try again with LAVF on and then off. Any other ideas in the interim?Anything different on later run(s)?

diver90
16th November 2010, 19:17
Anything different on later run(s)?

Thanks for asking. Still no luck. Same failure. No problem with other titles.

buerste3
16th November 2010, 19:26
To avoid problems you have to follow the directions in the first post of this thread or in the README files that is included in the BD Rebuilder zip file.

The first time you run BD-RB you have to "Run as Administrator" and BD Rebuilder will update those settings in the registry.

Okay i did everything like the first post. Now this problems:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Set to "All Supported", Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Also i must everytime "Run as Administrator" because BD Rebuilder will not update those settings in the registry.

Whats the problem??

picrade
16th November 2010, 19:50
I've never heard of anything like that. I did a lot of testing during development to see what the M2TS overhead was for all the audio/video types. For LPCM is was typically a little less than 15%. It has worked well on every LPCM encode I've done. I can't imagine a 100% overhead for any kind of audio track.

I don't think it is the m2ts overhead.
The size of audio in the m2ts stream is nearly double the size of the wav file. This can't be coincidence.
I am convinced that the audio is somehow muxed twice.

Another clue is the bit rate displayed.
On the main screen BDinfo shows bit rate of 1152 kps for the LPCM track.
But after doing a bit rate scan it shows a bit rate of 2304 kbs in the report. Exactly double 1152.
Maybe a flag is set incorrectly somewhere?!

BTW, I demuxed the audio with eac3to and the size was the same as with the tsmuxer, about 900 MB.

Capsbackup
16th November 2010, 19:50
Okay i did everything like the first post. Now this problems:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Set to "All Supported", Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Also i must everytime "Run as Administrator" because BD Rebuilder will not update those settings in the registry.

Whats the problem??

Well you do see Haali is not the recommended version?
Uninstall your haali, delete the Haali folder in Windows Programs, and then download and install the correct haali from the first post of this thread.
Then delete the BDREBUILDER.ini within your BD-RB folder.
Then right click on REG_MSCOMCTL and Run As Administrator.
Then right click on BD_Rebuilder.exeand Run As Administrator.
Now you shoul be ready. :)

buerste3
16th November 2010, 20:13
Well you do see Haali is not the recommended version?
Uninstall your haali, delete the Haali folder in Windows Programs, and then download and install the correct haali from the first post of this thread.
Then delete the BDREBUILDER.ini within your BD-RB folder.
Then right click on REG_MSCOMCTL and Run As Administrator.
Then right click on BD_Rebuilder.exeand Run As Administrator.
Now you shoul be ready. :)

Haali is the correct version from the first post.
I did everything you say but also the same problem.
I dont know.
With XP SP 3 everything went fine and now with w7 problems.
Shit :(

omegaman7
16th November 2010, 20:18
LOL! Other way around for me. XP SP3 was garbage for me. Windows 7 is a godsend for me.

I may have to pick up the CARS BD to try that one out for "Diver90". But since Jdobbs has done it, Should go smooothly.

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 20:30
Okay i did everything like the first post. Now this problems:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Set to "All Supported", Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Also i must everytime "Run as Administrator" because BD Rebuilder will not update those settings in the registry.

Whats the problem?? You have to "Run as Administrator" only once -- but based on the log, BD-RB is not getting administrative privileges, or you wouldn't get this:

- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

Are you sure you have admin privileges when you try it? Also make sure the following isn't in your INI file:

SUPPRESS_FF_WARNING=1

If it is, delete it. That gets added when you tell BD-RB to not ask you again about setting the registry.

buerste3
16th November 2010, 21:05
You have to "Run as Administrator" only once -- but based on the log, BD-RB is not getting administrative privileges, or you wouldn't get this:

- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

Are you sure you have admin privileges when you try it? Also make sure the following isn't in your INI file:

SUPPRESS_FF_WARNING=1

If it is, delete it. That gets added when you tell BD-RB to not ask you again about setting the registry.

I did eveyrthing. I delete the .ini , in the first one i Run as Admin and i accept the following windows. But i get everytime the same error.
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
And i must run as admin everytime. He write it not in the registry.
No Idea.

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 21:22
I did eveyrthing. I delete the .ini , in the first one i Run as Admin and i accept the following windows. But i get everytime the same error.
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
And i must run as admin everytime. He write it not in the registry.
No Idea. Either you don't have admin privileges on that computer, or something else is changing it back. My guess would be the former.

omegaman7
16th November 2010, 21:33
This will take care of that. I've done it on multiple machines :)
http://windows7news.com/2009/02/03/enable-or-disable-the-windows-7-administrator-account/

Type/Run "CMD" in the start bar. Right click top CMD icon, and run as administrator. This will be the last time :D

To enable the Windows 7 administrator account:

net user administrator /active:yes

To disable the Windows 7 administrator account:

net user administrator /active:no

Capsbackup
16th November 2010, 22:43
Haali is the correct version from the first post.
I did everything you say but also the same problem.
I dont know.
With XP SP 3 everything went fine and now with w7 problems.
Shit :(

If you don't uninstall haali AND delete the Haali folder BEFORE installing the correct version you will get the not correct version message! :(

wooper
17th November 2010, 05:45
hi i have this problem


[06:52:40] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: MBD3
- Input BD size: 33.01 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:27:23.291]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Better (Faster), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[06:52:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:52:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [07:00:37] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 4)
- [07:00:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 250 frames
- Bitrate: 2,966 Kbs
- [07:00:37] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:00:47] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:00:58] Video Encode complete
- [07:00:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:00:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:00:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 4)
- [07:01:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 120 frames
- [07:01:00] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:01:02] Video Encode complete
- [07:01:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:01:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [07:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00003 (3 of 4)
- [07:01:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 370 frames
- Bitrate: 2,857 Kbs
- [07:01:04] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:01:17] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:01:35] Video Encode complete
- [07:01:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:01:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [07:21:12] Reencoding: VID_00000 (4 of 4)
- [07:21:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 211,499 frames
- Bitrate: 4,953 Kbs
- [07:21:13] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:15:04] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:16:09] Video Encode complete
- [14:16:09] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:19:20]PHASE ONE complete
[14:19:20]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:19:20] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: K:\PELICULAS BD\MILLENIUM 3 RECODIFICADA\WORKFILES\00001.track_4608.SUP
[14:19:20] - Failed to REBUILD


whats this problem? it stopped at 99%

jdobbs
17th November 2010, 05:53
Does the file "00001.track_4608.SUP" exist in the working folder?

ironmike
17th November 2010, 06:47
The movie is Predators. Tried two builds and got the following results:
15:56:20] BD Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
- Source: PREDATORS_WW
- Input BD size: 26.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:53.073]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:56:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:56:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [16:32:37] ExtractAudioSubs() 00075 1605
[17:31:44] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[17:34:56] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: PREDATORS_WW
- Input BD size: 26.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:53.073]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:35:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:35:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [18:21:06] ExtractAudioSubs() 00075 1605
[18:58:16] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[18:59:17] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: PREDATORS_WW
- Input BD size: 26.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:53.073]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[18:59:22] - Aborted per user request
-----------------------
[19:00:28] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: PREDATORS_WW
- Input BD size: 26.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:53.073]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:00:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:00:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [19:36:21] ExtractAudioSubs() 00075 1605
[21:32:48] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
I have been successful with many backups previously.
Thanks for your help.

Capsbackup
17th November 2010, 07:16
@ironmike;
What does Inspect report?

ironmike
17th November 2010, 16:30
How do run inspect?

jdobbs
17th November 2010, 17:18
@ironmike

That error (00075) is a "path access error". When gotten at 1605 (the program position) it appears that the work path has either been corrupted or the drive can't be accessed for some reason.

m.rup
17th November 2010, 20:18
Now I have tested some more BDs and some more languages. My finding is that it is not possible to keep languages which are not selected in setup. BD Rebuilder seems to ignore the selection from the stream list although the selection is apparently stored in the .inf file. In deed, I could produce a BD without any audio track by deselecting all languages in setup and then selecting them in the stream list.

jdobbs
17th November 2010, 20:23
Now I have tested some more BDs and some more languages. My finding is that it is not possible to keep languages which are not selected in setup. BD Rebuilder seems to ignore the selection from the stream list although the selection is apparently stored in the .inf file. In deed, I could produce a BD without any audio track by deselecting all languages in setup and then selecting them in the stream list.

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken... it works for me and everyone else. If you select it from the streams list, it will be kept. I do it all the time.

Are you doing a full backup, a movie-only backup, an ALTERNATE movie-only backup? The reason I ask for logs in bug reports is so that we don't have to do a constant back-and-forth dialog to find the issue.

m.rup
17th November 2010, 20:39
It was a full back up. I attached some logs in an earlier post, but I will do a new encode of Alice in Wonderland, keeping only English in setup, and selecting Turkish, German, French in the stream list. The logs will be attached then.

omegaman7
17th November 2010, 20:52
Now I have tested some more BDs and some more languages. My finding is that it is not possible to keep languages which are not selected in setup. BD Rebuilder seems to ignore the selection from the stream list although the selection is apparently stored in the .inf file. In deed, I could produce a BD without any audio track by deselecting all languages in setup and then selecting them in the stream list.

I just did "The Last Airbender". By default, Bd rebuilder removed the "Audio Description" track. I told it to keep it by double clicking it in the streams list. I thought it could be the directors commentary. It was not. But obviously an audio track really isn't gonna affect the video quality by much ;) I had no trouble with this. I am running 35.01. I'm a firm believer if it ain't broke don't fix it. But I have been considering moving on to the newest version.

Thanks again Jdobbs for a wonderful software. My trouble has been almost non existent :D

wooper
17th November 2010, 20:57
Does the file "00001.track_4608.SUP" exist in the working folder?

Hi

well i dunno, i do the same thing i do when i rebuild a movie, just select the source, the output and after that i just press the button, nothing else

m.rup
17th November 2010, 20:59
Maybe I used the wrong words. Correctly said:
I don't know if the audio tracks are present after the encode.
I definitely know that I am not able to select them in the language menu of the disc on my Panasonic BD60, FW 2.5, when they where not selected in the setup menu.

jdobbs
17th November 2010, 21:58
Does the file "00001.track_4608.SUP" exist in the working folder?
Hi

well i dunno, i do the same thing i do when i rebuild a movie, just select the source, the output and after that i just press the button, nothing else What I was asking was for you to look in the folder and see if it was there. That would at least clear up whether it was an issue with the command, or with the reencode itself.

ironmike
17th November 2010, 22:05
@ironmike

That error (00075) is a "path access error". When gotten at 1605 (the program position) it appears that the work path has either been corrupted or the drive can't be accessed for some reason.

Deleted and recreated "working" folder, backup successful, thanks. For future reference, how do I create a test record?

Capsbackup
17th November 2010, 22:12
Deleted and recreated "working" folder, backup successful, thanks. For future reference, how do I create a test record?

If you mean Inspect ?, just look inside the folder that has BD-RB, you will see a file named Inspect. Open that file and click Inspect, and it will tell you if all the associated programs for BD-RB are correctly installed.

setarip_old
18th November 2010, 02:44
@omegaman7

Hi! I am running 35.01. I'm a firm believer if it ain't broke don't fix it. But I have been considering moving on to the newest version.If you keep in mind that the sole purpose of this thread is beta testing the program, you should understand that you should always be using the most recent version...

jdobbs
18th November 2010, 03:59
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.03). Changes for this version:- Added a new hidden option for specifying the HC
Encoder profile to use for movie-only DVD output.
The quality of the encode (highest being slowest)
can be set by adding "HC_PROFILE=s" to the config
(INI) file with "s" being set to "FAST", "NORMAL",
or "BEST". The default setting is "NORMAL".
- Corrected a syntax error on command lines that
could cause encoding failure for DVD output when
an audio delay is required.
- Corrected an error in which an unmatched language
setting (BD to DVD) could cause a build failure
when outputting to ALTERNATE/DVD.
- Fixed a regression in which ALTERNATE/MKV audio
output was always incorrectly being reencoded to
DD 2.0 (rather than DD 5.1 when available).
- Corrected an error in which audio streams that
contained delays, and were not in the initial
(SETUP defined) list of selections, could (if
later selected from the streams list) be muxed
out-of-sync.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1772).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r1772).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

wooper
18th November 2010, 05:51
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.03). Changes for this version:- Added a new hidden option for specifying the HC
Encoder profile to use for movie-only DVD output.
The quality of the encode (highest being slowest)
can be set by adding "HC_PROFILE=s" to the config
(INI) file with "s" being set to "FAST", "NORMAL",
or "BEST". The default setting is "NORMAL".
- Corrected a syntax error on command lines that
could cause encoding failure for DVD output when
an audio delay is required.
- Corrected an error in which an unmatched language
setting (BD to DVD) could cause a build failure
when outputting to ALTERNATE/DVD.
- Fixed a regression in which ALTERNATE/MKV audio
output was always incorrectly being reencoded to
DD 2.0 (rather than DD 5.1 when available).
- Corrected an error in which audio streams that
contained delays, and were not in the initial
(SETUP defined) list of selections, could (if
later selected from the streams list) be muxed
out-of-sync.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1772).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r1772).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.


thank you i will test rebuild the movie with this new version and check if everything goes well thantks

omegaman7
18th November 2010, 08:00
@omegaman7

Hi! If you keep in mind that the sole purpose of this thread is beta testing the program, you should understand that you should always be using the most recent version...

LOL! That's why I said I'm considering moving on :p You're totally correct though. I love to beta. Windows 7 was probably the most exciting to me... :devil:

matisgrana
18th November 2010, 20:58
Hello everyone! i am using BD-rebuilder since a month, thank you to create that´s wonderful program.
This week i was rebuilding spartacus disc 2 and i have 3 times this problem
- [20:24:10] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.02 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[16:47:58] - Failed video encode, aborted
And i don´t find the solution, the three times the same error in the same part of the rebuild, the interesting thing it´s that the log show "- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting" but if i do the inspect show "- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Set to "All Supported", Ok"
could you know what it´s happening?
Thank very much for your work jdobbs!

omegaman7
18th November 2010, 23:37
Tried the batch mode last night(0.35.01 I've since updated). Unfortunately, a bug incurred in the first job(Toy Story 3), which apparently aborts all jobs. This is unfortunate eh? For a measly audio problem, which may not exist in following jobs. Error 75 which apparently suggests rebuilder was trying to reference audio that doesn't exist. Not sure how that happened. I did click on audio streams in the streams section. I'm rerunning the job on default settings to see what happens. I only ripped the disc using anydvd. No other processing other than Bd Rebuilder.

[02:10:17] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
[02:10:18] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[02:10:18] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
-----------------------
[02:10:19] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_DISC_1
- Input BD size: 44.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:03:18.611]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[02:10:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:10:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00472]
- [02:10:19] Reencoding: VID_00472 (1 of 113)
- [02:10:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 167 frames
- [02:10:19] Reencoding: VID_00472, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:10:22] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:10:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00469]
- [02:10:23] Reencoding: VID_00469 (2 of 113)
- [02:10:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 108 frames
- [02:10:23] Reencoding: VID_00469, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:10:25] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:10:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00465]
- [02:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00465 (3 of 113)
- [02:10:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
- [02:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00465, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:10:29] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:10:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00466]
- [02:10:30] Reencoding: VID_00466 (4 of 113)
- [02:10:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 168 frames
- [02:10:30] Reencoding: VID_00466, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:10:33] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:10:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00459]
- [02:10:34] Reencoding: VID_00459 (5 of 113)
- [02:10:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 191 frames
- [02:10:34] Reencoding: VID_00459, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:10:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:10:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00401]
- [02:10:39] Reencoding: VID_00401 (6 of 113)
- [02:10:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 308 frames
- [02:10:39] Reencoding: VID_00401, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:10:49] Video Encode complete
- [02:10:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:10:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00463]
- [02:10:52] Reencoding: VID_00463 (7 of 113)
- [02:10:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 840 frames
- [02:10:52] Reencoding: VID_00463, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:11:05] Video Encode complete
- [02:11:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:11:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:11:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [02:11:10] Reencoding: VID_00322 (8 of 113)
- [02:11:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 302 frames
- Bitrate: 21,156 Kbs
- [02:11:10] Reencoding: VID_00322, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:11:42] Video Encode complete
- [02:11:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:11:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:11:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00346]
- [02:11:47] Reencoding: VID_00346 (9 of 113)
- [02:11:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 302 frames
- [02:11:47] Reencoding: VID_00346, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:11:56] Video Encode complete
- [02:11:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:11:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:11:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00359]
- [02:12:00] Reencoding: VID_00359 (10 of 113)
- [02:12:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 302 frames
- [02:12:00] Reencoding: VID_00359, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:12:10] Video Encode complete
- [02:12:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:12:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:12:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00345]
- [02:12:14] Reencoding: VID_00345 (11 of 113)
- [02:12:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 447 frames
- [02:12:14] Reencoding: VID_00345, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:12:26] Video Encode complete
- [02:12:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:12:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:12:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00358]
- [02:12:31] Reencoding: VID_00358 (12 of 113)
- [02:12:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 447 frames
- [02:12:31] Reencoding: VID_00358, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:12:43] Video Encode complete
- [02:12:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:12:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:12:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00321]
- [02:12:49] Reencoding: VID_00321 (13 of 113)
- [02:12:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 447 frames
- Bitrate: 18,425 Kbs
- [02:12:49] Reencoding: VID_00321, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:13:35] Video Encode complete
- [02:13:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:13:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:13:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00382]
- [02:13:40] Reencoding: VID_00382 (14 of 113)
- [02:13:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 547 frames
- [02:13:40] Reencoding: VID_00382, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:13:54] Video Encode complete
- [02:13:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:13:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:13:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00372]
- [02:14:01] Reencoding: VID_00372 (15 of 113)
- [02:14:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 547 frames
- [02:14:01] Reencoding: VID_00372, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:14:15] Video Encode complete
- [02:14:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:14:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:14:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00349]
- [02:14:21] Reencoding: VID_00349 (16 of 113)
- [02:14:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 523 frames
- [02:14:21] Reencoding: VID_00349, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:14:35] Video Encode complete
- [02:14:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:14:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:14:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00362]
- [02:14:42] Reencoding: VID_00362 (17 of 113)
- [02:14:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 523 frames
- [02:14:42] Reencoding: VID_00362, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:14:56] Video Encode complete
- [02:14:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:14:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:14:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00378]
- [02:15:04] Reencoding: VID_00378 (18 of 113)
- [02:15:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 570 frames
- [02:15:04] Reencoding: VID_00378, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:15:17] Video Encode complete
- [02:15:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:15:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:15:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00388]
- [02:15:24] Reencoding: VID_00388 (19 of 113)
- [02:15:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 570 frames
- [02:15:24] Reencoding: VID_00388, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:15:38] Video Encode complete
- [02:15:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:15:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:31:39] Video Encode complete
- [06:31:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:31:40] ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801
[09:43:56] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
[09:43:56] BATCH ABORTED...

Had to shorten post to 16000 characters...

prOnorama
19th November 2010, 01:03
Re-encoded a Blu-ray to BD-25 keeping audio untouched (DTS-HDMA + AC3 2.0 commentary), 2 pass encode:

[13:33:05] BD Rebuilder v0.36.03 (beta)
- Source: THE_THIN_RED_LINE
- Input BD size: 34,73 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:50:47.070]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:33:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:33:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274]
- [13:51:44] Reencoding: VID_00274 (1 of 1)
- [13:51:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 245.684 frames
- Bitrate: 12.953 Kbs
- [13:51:44] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:58:51] Reencoding: VID_00274, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:04:44] Video Encode complete
- [22:04:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:04:45] Multiplexing M2TS
[22:11:50]PHASE ONE complete
[22:11:50]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:11:50] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:25:16] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:25:16]JOB: THE_THIN_RED_LINE finished.

According to the log the output size should have been 22.95 GB but it came out as 22.1 GB so that's almost 4% smaller. As said I used 2 pass mode so I figured it should have to hit the specified target size almost spot on. :confused:

drackula
19th November 2010, 01:13
I found problem. I want to reencode ac3 640kbs to ac3 448kbs.
I goto setting select reencode ac3 to 448kbs.
When rencode finnish i use bdinfo check but ac3 still 640kbs same before reencode.
i have to do. sorry i'm englise is not good. thank you.

jdobbs
19th November 2010, 01:17
Re-encoded a Blu-ray to BD-25 keeping audio untouched (DTS-HDMA + AC3 2.0 commentary), 2 pass encode:

...

According to the log the output size should have been 22.95 GB but it came out as 22.1 GB so that's almost 4% smaller. As said I used 2 pass mode so I figured it should have to hit the specified target size almost spot on. :confused: The overhead needed for muxing isn't very consistent, so there's always a possiblity of some undersizing. Most of my encodes come in at about 22.4GB. I have to leave a little room in case the muxing goes off in the other direction.

I'm still making adjustments to the sizing during beta testing. So I'd expect it to be more accurate by the time I get to v1.00.

You can always set a custom target size (see SETUP) that is closer to a full disc -- but right now I don't want to risk oversizing because that requires a complete redo.

There wouldn't be any likely visible difference in the output with that small amount of undersizing. I'm not one of the folks who subscribes to the "fill to the edge of the disc" philosophy. But over time it'll get closer.

Acerjen
19th November 2010, 05:11
I re-ripped Cars and ran it through the newest version of DVD-RB. I still get the same error. Here is the log:

-----------------------
[13:47:02] BD Rebuilder v0.36.03 (beta)
- Source: CARS
- Input BD size: 38.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:35:49.536]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:47:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:47:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [13:47:10] Reencoding: VID_00015 (1 of 34)
- [13:47:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 847 frames
- Bitrate: 9,545 Kbs
- [13:47:10] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:47:20] Video Encode complete
- [13:47:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:47:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:47:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [13:47:25] Reencoding: VID_00016 (2 of 34)
- [13:47:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 239 frames
- Bitrate: 10,398 Kbs
- [13:47:25] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:47:28] Video Encode complete
- [13:47:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:47:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:47:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [13:47:36] Reencoding: VID_00023 (3 of 34)
- [13:47:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,856 Kbs
- [13:47:36] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:47:44] Video Encode complete
- [13:47:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:47:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:47:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [13:47:53] Reencoding: VID_00024 (4 of 34)
- [13:47:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 9,076 Kbs
- [13:47:53] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:48:00] Video Encode complete
- [13:48:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:48:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:48:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [13:48:08] Reencoding: VID_00025 (5 of 34)
- [13:48:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,881 Kbs
- [13:48:08] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:48:16] Video Encode complete
- [13:48:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:48:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:48:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [13:48:25] Reencoding: VID_00026 (6 of 34)
- [13:48:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,981 Kbs
- [13:48:25] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:48:32] Video Encode complete
- [13:48:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:48:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:48:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [13:48:42] Reencoding: VID_00027 (7 of 34)
- [13:48:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,901 Kbs
- [13:48:42] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:48:49] Video Encode complete
- [13:48:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:48:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:48:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [13:48:58] Reencoding: VID_00028 (8 of 34)
- [13:48:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,907 Kbs
- [13:48:58] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:49:06] Video Encode complete
- [13:49:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:49:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:49:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [13:49:14] Reencoding: VID_00029 (9 of 34)
- [13:49:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,849 Kbs
- [13:49:14] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:49:22] Video Encode complete
- [13:49:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:49:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:49:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [13:49:30] Reencoding: VID_00030 (10 of 34)
- [13:49:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 8,973 Kbs
- [13:49:30] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:49:38] Video Encode complete
- [13:49:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:49:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:49:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [13:51:04] Reencoding: VID_00036 (11 of 34)
- [13:51:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,297 frames
- Bitrate: 9,628 Kbs
- [13:51:04] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:54:01] Video Encode complete
- [13:54:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:54:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:54:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [13:55:19] Reencoding: VID_00037 (12 of 34)
- [13:55:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,557 frames
- Bitrate: 9,502 Kbs
- [13:55:19] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:57:03] Video Encode complete
- [13:57:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:57:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:57:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [13:58:10] Reencoding: VID_00038 (13 of 34)
- [13:58:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,248 frames
- Bitrate: 8,999 Kbs
- [13:58:10] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:59:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:59:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:59:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:00:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [14:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00039 (14 of 34)
- [14:01:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 28,860 frames
- Bitrate: 3,131 Kbs
- [14:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:02:39] Video Encode complete
- [14:02:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:02:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:02:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [14:03:20] Reencoding: VID_00040 (15 of 34)
- [14:03:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,770 frames
- Bitrate: 3,106 Kbs
- [14:03:20] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:03:48] Video Encode complete
- [14:03:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:03:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:03:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [14:04:17] Reencoding: VID_00041 (16 of 34)
- [14:04:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,900 frames
- Bitrate: 3,122 Kbs
- [14:04:17] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:04:47] Video Encode complete
- [14:04:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:04:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:04:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [14:05:15] Reencoding: VID_00042 (17 of 34)
- [14:05:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 9,500 frames
- Bitrate: 3,047 Kbs
- [14:05:15] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:05:42] Video Encode complete
- [14:05:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:05:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:05:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [14:06:12] Reencoding: VID_00043 (18 of 34)
- [14:06:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 10,980 frames
- Bitrate: 3,064 Kbs
- [14:06:12] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:06:40] Video Encode complete
- [14:06:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:06:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:06:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00044]
- [14:06:59] Reencoding: VID_00044 (19 of 34)
- [14:06:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,930 frames
- Bitrate: 3,135 Kbs
- [14:06:59] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:07:14] Video Encode complete
- [14:07:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:07:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:07:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [14:07:33] Reencoding: VID_00045 (20 of 34)
- [14:07:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,420 frames
- Bitrate: 3,057 Kbs
- [14:07:33] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:07:49] Video Encode complete
- [14:07:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:07:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:07:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
- [14:08:24] Reencoding: VID_00046 (21 of 34)
- [14:08:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 13,003 frames
- Bitrate: 3,147 Kbs
- [14:08:24] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:09:02] Video Encode complete
- [14:09:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:09:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:09:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00047]
- [14:09:25] Reencoding: VID_00047 (22 of 34)
- [14:09:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,930 frames
- Bitrate: 2,860 Kbs
- [14:09:25] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:09:39] Video Encode complete
- [14:09:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:09:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:09:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00048]
- [14:09:51] Reencoding: VID_00048 (23 of 34)
- [14:09:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,120 frames
- Bitrate: 2,870 Kbs
- [14:09:51] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:09:58] Video Encode complete
- [14:09:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:09:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:10:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00049]
- [14:10:12] Reencoding: VID_00049 (24 of 34)
- [14:10:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,850 frames
- Bitrate: 2,840 Kbs
- [14:10:12] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:10:23] Video Encode complete
- [14:10:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:10:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:10:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [14:10:35] Reencoding: VID_00050 (25 of 34)
- [14:10:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,090 frames
- Bitrate: 2,848 Kbs
- [14:10:35] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:10:42] Video Encode complete
- [14:10:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:10:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:10:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [14:10:57] Reencoding: VID_00051 (26 of 34)
- [14:10:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,210 frames
- Bitrate: 2,834 Kbs
- [14:10:57] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:11:09] Video Encode complete
- [14:11:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:11:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:11:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00053]
- [14:12:02] Reencoding: VID_00053 (27 of 34)
- [14:12:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,608 frames
- Bitrate: 16,245 Kbs
- [14:12:02] Reencoding: VID_00053, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:12:58] Video Encode complete
- [14:12:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:12:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:13:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00054]
- [14:13:32] Reencoding: VID_00054 (28 of 34)
- [14:13:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,307 frames
- Bitrate: 9,857 Kbs
- [14:13:32] Reencoding: VID_00054, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:14:00] Video Encode complete
- [14:14:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:14:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:14:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00055]
- [14:14:39] Reencoding: VID_00055 (29 of 34)
- [14:14:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,563 frames
- Bitrate: 10,078 Kbs
- [14:14:39] Reencoding: VID_00055, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:15:29] Video Encode complete
- [14:15:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:15:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:15:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- [14:54:49] Reencoding: VID_00060 (30 of 34)
- [14:54:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 167,736 frames
- Bitrate: 8,049 Kbs
- [14:54:49] Reencoding: VID_00060, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:52:35] Video Encode complete
- [15:52:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:52:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00060.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[16:00:48] - Failed to build structure, aborted


Thanks. Later.
acerjen

omegaman7
19th November 2010, 06:59
Second attempt of Toy Story 3 went well. This time I didn't fiddle with the audio streams. Sure wish I had a freak processor to eat up this processing job. I'd run a lot more tests ;) Can't wait to see how Sandy bridge and Bulldozer handle this process :D

Capsbackup
19th November 2010, 07:06
A rare but potential bug surfaced regarding mixed audio bitrates within a "Play All" bonus feature for the movie Predators. The bonus feature is 40:12, Evolution of the Species. It is broken up into 8 seperate .m2ts files, with 7 of the files having 448kbps, 6 channel AC3 audio, but one has 224kbps, 2 channel AC3 audio.
The full movie backup completes correctly, as BD-RB keeps the original structure intact and preserves the 8 individual files.
However, if movie only is selected, and this .mpls is selected from the other Movie-Only playlist choices, the problem occurs. Since BD-RB attempts to join the 8 seperate m2ts files into one m2ts, and the lone 224kbps 2 channel AC3 is different from the rest, there is a problem.
I have never experienced this before, probably very uncommon, but does provide another consideration for joining multi-part m2ts files into one. :(

jdobbs
19th November 2010, 14:48
A rare but potential bug surfaced regarding mixed audio bitrates within a "Play All" bonus feature for the movie Predators. The bonus feature is 40:12, Evolution of the Species. It is broken up into 8 seperate .m2ts files, with 7 of the files having 448kbps, 6 channel AC3 audio, but one has 224kbps, 2 channel AC3 audio.
The full movie backup completes correctly, as BD-RB keeps the original structure intact and preserves the 8 individual files.
However, if movie only is selected, and this .mpls is selected from the other Movie-Only playlist choices, the problem occurs. Since BD-RB attempts to join the 8 seperate m2ts files into one m2ts, and the lone 224kbps 2 channel AC3 is different from the rest, there is a problem.
I have never experienced this before, probably very uncommon, but does provide another consideration for joining multi-part m2ts files into one. :( The problem is in the source -- it violates spec. By spec, when there are multiple components they all must have the same stream characteristics. They have to -- because the stream characteristics are specified in the MPLS for the entire set.

Capsbackup
19th November 2010, 17:08
The problem is in the source -- it violates spec. By spec, when there are multiple components they all must have the same stream characteristics. They have to -- because the stream characteristics are specified in the MPLS for the entire set.

I do understand this, but technically the source is not in violation since it works fine ( Not good authoring though! ), and because it has a seperate .mpls for each .m2ts. There is a "Play All" button that just tells the player to play consecutively each .m2ts.
As I said, BD-RB reencodes this Blu-ray correctly if I choose full backup. It maintains the same structure.
Only when I select movie only in BD-RB, and choose the associated .mpls, which BD-RB has as an available option to select from does the problem arise.
Perhaps if BD-RB read the contents of this mpls, it would detect that the audio streams of each m2ts are not the same and refuse to continue to attempt to join them?
I know this is extremely rare, and I really don't have an issue with it. :o
I just wanted to share an experience that could allow BD-RB to make a movie only option that has audio sync or missing audio for a multi-part movie clip. :(

jdobbs
19th November 2010, 19:12
I do understand this, but technically the source is not in violation since it works fine ( Not good authoring though! ), and because it has a seperate .mpls for each .m2ts. There is a "Play All" button that just tells the player to play consecutively each .m2ts.
As I said, BD-RB reencodes this Blu-ray correctly if I choose full backup. It maintains the same structure.
Only when I select movie only in BD-RB, and choose the associated .mpls, which BD-RB has as an available option to select from does the problem arise.
Perhaps if BD-RB read the contents of this mpls, it would detect that the audio streams of each m2ts are not the same and refuse to continue to attempt to join them?
I know this is extremely rare, and I really don't have an issue with it. :o
I just wanted to share an experience that could allow BD-RB to make a movie only option that has audio sync or missing audio for a multi-part movie clip. :( No that's incorrect. It is in violation. The test isn't whether it will play back -- lots of illegal things might work just by coincidence. It's true that you may have a different MPLS that points to it as well -- but if it is included in any MPLS and violates the rules, it is not to spec.

BD-RB already reads the MPLS and each of the CLPI files... but all the audio encoding has to be done together. I could reject is sure... but then I'd get even more bug reports because of the missing segment.

What I worry about is that if I start looking for ways to fix things that are out-of-spec, there would be no end to it.

Priapismic
20th November 2010, 00:10
@jdobbs
Maybe in the next program version, and on post #1, you could do some re-phrasing that would avoid confusing newbies, et al:
The Matroska splitter is not mentioned in the actual program - instead being referred to as Haali splitter.
So if BDRB reports an incorrect Haali splitter during a failed encode, users will go looking for it in post #1 and not find it....
...maybe reword post #1 to include ..."Matroska", formerly known as...
anyway, thought it might help.

jdobbs
20th November 2010, 02:38
@jdobbs
Maybe in the next program version, and on post #1, you could do some re-phrasing that would avoid confusing newbies, et al:
The Matroska splitter is not mentioned in the actual program - instead being referred to as Haali splitter.
So if BDRB reports an incorrect Haali splitter during a failed encode, users will go looking for it in post #1 and not find it....
...maybe reword post #1 to include ..."Matroska", formerly known as...
anyway, thought it might help. That works.

setarip_old
20th November 2010, 02:49
@jdobbs

Hi!

Although similar to my question regarding "The Pacific", this has NOTHING to do with DTSExpress audio.

I created a full disc DVD9 of "Disney's A Christmas Carol". It contains PIP with 320kbps 2 channel .AC3.

When played on my SONY BDP S360, once the alternative (PIP) version is selected, an EMPTY frame appears at the lower right (It should contain the alternate video) and both audio and subtitles disappear and cannot be activated/selected.

Any thoughts, or is it "just one of those things? (I will not, for any reason, update the SONY's firmware)

Note: For what it's worth, the same burned DVD9 plays perfectly under PowerDVD v.7.3...

jdobbs
20th November 2010, 04:06
@jdobbs

Hi!

Although similar to my question regarding "The Pacific", this has NOTHING to do with DTSExpress audio.

I created a full disc DVD9 of "Disney's A Christmas Carol". It contains PIP with 320kbps 2 channel .AC3.

When played on my SONY BDP S360, once the alternative (PIP) version is selected, an EMPTY frame appears at the lower right (It should contain the alternate video) and both audio and subtitles disappear and cannot be activated/selected.

Any thoughts, or is it "just one of those things? (I will not, for any reason, udate the SONY's firmware)

Note: For what it's worth, the same burned DVD9 plays perfectly under PowerDVD v.7.3... I did that one as a full backup and still have it on BD-RE. I hadn't tried the PiP. I'll check it out tomorrow morning.

Capsbackup
20th November 2010, 04:10
@setarip_old;
Perhaps for testing, if you burned this same backup to a BD-RE, would it display the same results when played on the Sony S360?

setarip_old
20th November 2010, 04:48
@jdobbs

Keep in mind that I've done this on a DVD9...

setarip_old
20th November 2010, 04:51
@Capsbackup if you burned this same backup to a BD-RE

I certainly would have done that if my setup included that capability ;>}

KeVe1983
20th November 2010, 15:25
Hey jdobbs i have a quetion.

A few days ago i want to encode the Shrek 1 3D BD, but BD_Rebuilder fails.
Some1 here says it is not possible to encode 3D BD's right now.
I just want the 2D Version, with Menue and Extras.

The Image was ripped with the "Red Fox" to my HDD.
It has a Size of 33,1 GB
I've mounted the Image with Virtual Clone drive.
In the STREAM Folder was a 00000.m2ts File, this is the Main Movie without 3D.
It has a size of 22,4 GB.
Also there was a 00001.m2ts with a Size of 10 GB, this is the 3D Part and i cant play it with TMT 3.
And there is a SSIF Folder with .ssif Files in the STREAM Folder. This is for 3D also.

Now i ripped the complete Image again with the newest DVDFab to Folder Structure.
After ripping the SSIF Folder is missing, but the Disc plays fine on TMT 3 and my Dune HD SMART.
I deleted the 00001.m2ts File and the Disc plays fine again.

Now the Shrek Disc has a size of 23,1 GB, with Menue, Extras and all Languages.

I open the Disc in BD_Rebuilder and get this:

http://www.abload.de/img/bdr1si1o.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/bdr2eiik.jpg

I just select the German Language and normaly there is no encode needed, because it fits on da BD25 now.
But BD_RB wants to encode the Main Movie.

Why BD_RB wants to encode?
Is the Disc size saved in another File and BD_RB believes that this is the untouched Disc with a Size of 33 GB?

I open the Main Movie m2ts with TS Muxxer and just selceted the German Language + English DTS HD
Now the complete Disc has a size of 19 GB and there is definitely no encode needed.

jdobbs
20th November 2010, 15:33
@KeVe1983

In the example you give above BD-RB has to reencode because the combination of the 3 streams that make up the main feature are larger (23.15GB) than the target output size (22.95GB). You may be able to put in a larger custom target size and it might fit.

KeVe1983
20th November 2010, 15:51
Yes but it will be 23.15 GB if i select all Audio tracks, or am i wrong?

http://www.abload.de/img/bdr3ifen.jpg

So if i just select the German Track the Disc is Undersized and there is no encode needed!

Like i said i removed the other Language Tracks with TS Muxxer and just select the German Track + the English DTS HD Track and now the complete Disc has a size of 19 GB with 2 Audio Tracks

So why BD_Rebuilder wants to encode if i just select the German Track?

Video Dude
20th November 2010, 23:46
I ran into a similar situation with National Treasure.

I selected movie only, english DTS-HD MA, and english subtitle.
In the BD-RB settings I selected to extract DTS core and not keep HD audio.

Video + DTS Core + Subtitle would just fit BD-25 with no re-encode.

But BD-RB still did a re-encode of video even though with the DTS core it would of fit a BD-25. I increased the custom size and it worked.

Does BD-RB make the final size calculation with the DTS core or the DTS-HD MA track?



Edit: I guess it could be possible the movie was above the BD-25 defined size in BD-RB but it would actually fit a BD-25 disc.

jdobbs
21st November 2010, 01:08
I ran into a similar situation with National Treasure.

I selected movie only, english DTS-HD MA, and english subtitle.
In the BD-RB settings I selected to extract DTS core and not keep HD audio.

Video + DTS Core + Subtitle would just fit BD-25 with no re-encode.

But BD-RB still did a re-encode of video even though with the DTS core it would of fit a BD-25. I increased the custom size and it worked.

Does BD-RB make the final size calculation with the DTS core or the DTS-HD MA track?



Edit: I guess it could be possible the movie was above the BD-25 defined size in BD-RB but it would actually fit a BD-25 disc. It does the calculation with either the extracted track (when keeping original) or with the bitrate of the AC3 track (when reencoding). Whether it uses the core or the HD when keeping original depends upon what you have selected. It also does the calculation against each M2TS individually.

Paddy97
21st November 2010, 09:31
I just redid one of the movies that got DD2 with 0.36.02 with the 0.36.03 version when choosing alternate output MKV. It still gets encoded to DD2 from DD5.1.

When i check the workfiles directory the original AC3 is DD5.1 and the encoded, and the one muxed into the MKV, is DD2. Not sure if the logfile helps but here it is anyway.

-----------------------
[18:12:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.03 (beta)
- Source: PAW1EGE1
- Input BD size: 27,26 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:36:28.157]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, 640Kbs AC3
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[18:12:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:12:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [18:30:43] Reencoding: VID_00028 (1 of 1)
- [18:30:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 138*777 frames
- [18:30:43] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:43:27] Video Encode complete
- [19:43:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:44:19] Multiplexing M2TS
[19:44:19]PHASE ONE complete
[19:44:19]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:44:19] Rebuilding stream 00028 [1 of 1]
- [19:44:19] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[19:45:46] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[19:45:46]JOB: PAW1EGE1 finished.


[Status]
LABEL=PAW1EGE1
VERSION=v0.36.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29275066368
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29275066368
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.160070897366855
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=7
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00028]
AUDIO=0000010
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4686086144
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

jdobbs
21st November 2010, 14:41
@Paddy97

It appears there was another area of the code that was restricting output to DD2.0 as well. I've fixed it for the next release.

Capsbackup
21st November 2010, 15:08
@Paddy97

It appears there was another area of the code that was restricting output to DD2.0 as well. I've fixed it for the next release.

I can't even imagine what your "code notes" must look like now days! :p

Paddy97
21st November 2010, 15:59
@Paddy97

It appears there was another area of the code that was restricting output to DD2.0 as well. I've fixed it for the next release.

Thanks for the great support and quality of the software. Just sent you another donation to show my appreciation.

jdobbs
21st November 2010, 17:19
I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.35.04). Changes for this version:- Added code to assert the "fake-interlaced" switch
in X264 when encoding interlaced sources when the
"Use DECOMB filter..." SETUP option has been
selected. This can improve encode quality.
- Added a new routine that does an extended scan
prior to encoding MPEG-2 480i sources to detect
hybrid video characteristics. This should clear
up any remaining reports of audio sync problems
on certain MPEG-2 sources.
- Updated the MKV ALTERNATE support so that audio
can be reencoded to DD5.1 (prior to this release
all audio was stereo). In order to activate you
must set the bitrate in ALTERNATE.TXT to 384Kbs
or higher (with audio type set to AC3). Two new
examples have been included.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1788).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

setarip_old
21st November 2010, 21:20
@jdobbs I did that one as a full backup and still have it on BD-RE. I hadn't tried the PiP. I'll check it out tomorrow morning. Any findings regarding this? (DVD9 behavior on SONY 360)

BTW - Is there a target date for DTSExpress?

SquallMX
22nd November 2010, 20:13
Is normal for a BD-Rebuilder Output to change the PID number of the Secondary Audio track?

I trying to backup How to Train Your Dragon (US Release), and the PID for the PiP changes from 1A00 to 1106, this causes bad audio with TotalMedia Theater (the Dubs tracks are mixed with the PiP track, English Lossless is unaffected, I going to burn a BD-RW to test it on a PS3)

jdobbs
22nd November 2010, 20:29
Is normal for a BD-Rebuilder Output to change the PID number of the Secondary Audio track?

I trying to backup How to Train Your Dragon (US Release), and the PID for the PiP changes from 1A00 to 1106, this causes bad audio with TotalMedia Theater (the Dubs tracks are mixed with the PiP track, English Lossless is unaffected, I going to burn a BD-RW to test it on a PS3) Yes it changes it, because TSMUXER will not allow the PID 0x1A00 (it assigns them itself) -- technically it should be 0x1A00, but that shouldn't matter as a player should handle it correctly anyway.

micflair
22nd November 2010, 22:54
Evening all.

I have a problem while encoding `An Idiot Abroad' 2disc TV Series in the UK.

Everything encodes fine on the video front, but when played the menu buttons wont activate, so the BD cant be watched at all. Then menu comes up, but just with no buttons at all..

Any ideas?

omegaman7
22nd November 2010, 23:27
What player are you using? Is it a BD-RE? I've had DVD+/-RW's behave that way in one of my dvd players...

jdobbs
23rd November 2010, 00:24
Evening all.

I have a problem while encoding `An Idiot Abroad' 2disc TV Series in the UK.

Everything encodes fine on the video front, but when played the menu buttons wont activate, so the BD cant be watched at all. Then menu comes up, but just with no buttons at all..

Any ideas? Have you changed the MIN_M2TS_SIZE? That's usually the cause of that. Some menus have in-stream IGS -- and TSMUXER doesn't support it. I'm working on that in the same module as DTS Express remuxing.

micflair
23rd November 2010, 09:02
Nah guys Ive not changed anything in the settings, or my type of media or player etc. Have tried it a couple of times to no avail now, wah!

micflair
23rd November 2010, 09:04
What player are you using? Is it a BD-RE? I've had DVD+/-RW's behave that way in one of my dvd players...

Its just a standard BD-R mate and Im playing it in the PS3..

omegaman7
23rd November 2010, 09:27
Perhaps bad rip then? Bad rips can cause some strange behaviors as well. Was the disc highly encrypted? I've heard people speak about bad pressed dvd discs acting strangely. I'd imagine BD media is no different in this respect.

Lord Axl
23rd November 2010, 22:47
I've sent today a donation to JD for BD Rebuilder development :)
Thanks for it.

jdobbs
23rd November 2010, 22:59
I've sent today a donation to JD for BD Rebuilder development :)
Thanks for it. Thank you. It's very much appreciated.

micflair
24th November 2010, 14:35
Have you changed the MIN_M2TS_SIZE? That's usually the cause of that. Some menus have in-stream IGS -- and TSMUXER doesn't support it. I'm working on that in the same module as DTS Express remuxing.

When you say have I changed it.. do you mean I should change it or not from the default settings? I see its set at 100mb, I have a couple of really small files in the bdmv/stream folder so Ill change it to something daft like 1meg and see what happens.. also if it makes any difference the bluray is 1080i and not 1080p..

jdobbs
24th November 2010, 15:27
When you say have I changed it.. do you mean I should change it or not from the default settings? I see its set at 100mb, I have a couple of really small files in the bdmv/stream folder so Ill change it to something daft like 1meg and see what happens.. also if it makes any difference the bluray is 1080i and not 1080p.. If you change it, you'd want to go in the other direction (higher). Look at the size of the file containing the menu -- and go a little higher than that. Then it will keep that file intact so it won't be processed and it will retain the in-mux IGS track.

Capsbackup
24th November 2010, 16:15
If you change it, you'd want to go in the other direction (higher). Look at the size of the file containing the menu -- and go a little higher than that. Then it will keep that file intact so it won't be processed and it will retain the in-mux IGS track.

My experience is this does work for BD-R/RE full backups, but does not work for BD5/9 full backups. My guess is AVCHD needs to have the files reencoded to meet the AVCHD standard.
This is why some original discs of mine will just have to wait until you implement IGS and DTS Express remux! :p :cool:
( patiently waiting too. :) )

micflair
24th November 2010, 16:29
If you change it, you'd want to go in the other direction (higher). Look at the size of the file containing the menu -- and go a little higher than that. Then it will keep that file intact so it won't be processed and it will retain the in-mux IGS track.

Thanks mate for your speedy reply.. will give it a go and let you know the result :)

jdobbs
24th November 2010, 16:39
My experience is this does work for BD-R/RE full backups, but does not work for BD5/9 full backups. My guess is AVCHD needs to have the files reencoded to meet the AVCHD standard.
This is why some original discs of mine will just have to wait until you implement IGS and DTS Express remux! :p :cool:
( patiently waiting too. :) ) I just keep getting distracted with other things -- then when I go back to it, I have to "re-learn" where I was in the process...

Capsbackup
24th November 2010, 17:07
I just keep getting distracted with other things -- then when I go back to it, I have to "re-learn" where I was in the process...

This happens to me too... but thats just in my everyday life! :o

I recognize that a tsMuxeR update would make things much easier. But since that does not appear to be likely, and with your track record of proven software programs that I have used, IFOUpdate and of course DVDRebuilder, my confidence remains with your capabilities! :)
As I have said, I am still having fun with it all. :D

wooper
24th November 2010, 21:17
Hi there, i have a problem with the movie "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood prince", I did a full backup but the weird thing is that BD-Rebuilder doesn't show any error, it just says thats everything went perfect, but when i reproduce the movie in my pc the spanish audio doesn't hear very well, it sounds paused and sometimes slow, so what might be the problem? some settings to change? thanks

jdobbs
24th November 2010, 22:07
Hi there, i have a problem with the movie "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood prince", I did a full backup but the weird thing is that BD-Rebuilder doesn't show any error, it just says thats everything went perfect, but when i reproduce the movie in my pc the spanish audio doesn't hear very well, it sounds paused and sometimes slow, so what might be the problem? some settings to change? thanksI'd need a lot more information in order to be able to help you, please post your BDREBUILDER.INI, the .INF file for the disc you're processing, and the log from the encode.

Paddy97
25th November 2010, 09:08
I'm having muxing problems with Toy Story 3 nordic, the Swedish playlist (to get swedish titles) when choosing alternate output to MKV. It works OK when i choose the english playlist on the same disc. Also if i remux the swedish playlist to a bluray structure with just one m2ts it works OK. So I'm guessing that its something with the many files in the playlist. See the logfiles and other info.

I am posting the logfile, ini file and inf file from DVDrebuilder as a link. The forum complained that the 24K long post was to big. Hope this is allright.

http://fenrisulven.storage.s3.amazonaws.com/DVDRebuild.rar

micflair
25th November 2010, 13:19
Thanks mate for your speedy reply.. will give it a go and let you know the result :)

So I changed what u said mate but it still reencoded the menu video even though I had increased that hidden option to a size above the original filesize.. help!

jdobbs
25th November 2010, 13:34
So I changed what u said mate but it still reencoded the menu video even though I had increased that hidden option to a size above the original filesize.. help! Are you going to BD-25 or BD-9? When going to BD-9 it will do the encode anyway (it has to).

jdobbs
25th November 2010, 13:39
I'm having muxing problems with Toy Story 3 nordic, the Swedish playlist (to get swedish titles) when choosing alternate output to MKV. It works OK when i choose the english playlist on the same disc. Also if i remux the swedish playlist to a bluray structure with just one m2ts it works OK. So I'm guessing that its something with the many files in the playlist. See the logfiles and other info.

I am posting the logfile, ini file and inf file from DVDrebuilder as a link. The forum complained that the 24K long post was to big. Hope this is allright.

http://fenrisulven.storage.s3.amazonaws.com/DVDRebuild.rar Let me make sure I understand. If you are outputting the Swedish playlist to a movie-only M2TS it works -- but if going to an MKV if fails. Correct? All setting the same except the ALTERNATE output?

Also, I see you've created your own profile "MKV Container, 1280x720, 640Kbs DD5.1" -- can you post the contents of that profile from ALTERNATE.TXT (just to be sure I'm testing with the same settings)?

BTW, it's BD Rebuilder, not DVD Rebuilder...

Paddy97
25th November 2010, 17:01
Let me make sure I understand. If you are outputting the Swedish playlist to a movie-only M2TS it works -- but if going to an MKV if fails. Correct? All setting the same except the ALTERNATE output?

Also, I see you've created your own profile "MKV Container, 1280x720, 640Kbs DD5.1" -- can you post the contents of that profile from ALTERNATE.TXT (just to be sure I'm testing with the same settings)?

BTW, it's BD Rebuilder, not DVD Rebuilder...

Sorry for being unclear.

Using alternate output to MKV in all cases.

If i output the swedish playlist from original disk it's not working.
If I output the english playlist from original disk its working
If I remux the swedish playlist to a single file playlist and use that as source it's working.

[00008]
caption=MKV Container, 1280x720, 640Kbs DD5.1
vBitrate=1230
aBitrate=640
aType=0
vFormat=4
cType=1

I use the same working dir for DVDRebuild and BD Rebuild and when i RARed together the files it used the directory name...

micflair
25th November 2010, 18:25
Are you going to BD-25 or BD-9? When going to BD-9 it will do the encode anyway (it has to).

No mate sorry forgot to say, im going to BD-25. The size of the original menu video is about 480meg, so I set the MIN thingy to 600meg and set it off.. it still re did it tho and made it down to 48meg.. grr! haha

Capsbackup
25th November 2010, 18:37
No mate sorry forgot to say, im going to BD-25. The size of the original menu video is about 480meg, so I set the MIN thingy to 600meg and set it off.. it still re did it tho and made it down to 48meg.. grr! haha

You need to make sure you put the wording in correctly and in the right place. Example:
Below [Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600
If you check BD-RB files to reencode from the list, the files less than this size will not be present.

apophis906
25th November 2010, 19:09
I have noticed a problem with Santa Clause 3 and with the new collectors edition of Avatar. They both have some playlist that reference parts of a larger clip. When its rebuilt the new playlist will start at the right spot, but the end time will be changed to the end of the clip instead of whatever the original length it should have been. So what should be say one minute can have a length of an hour instead.

micflair
25th November 2010, 20:44
You need to make sure you put the wording in correctly and in the right place. Example:
Below [Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600
If you check BD-RB files to reencode from the list, the files less than this size will not be present.

Yeah triple checked that mate to no avail, everything is in correct and no matter what I put as the setting being 600 or 1 theres always 2 files there at 112mb and 487mb waiting to encoded grr..

Hmm, just noticed though that the 2 files are MPEG-2 and not MPEG-4.. all the others are MPEG-4 at 9gig a file.. hmmm

Capsbackup
25th November 2010, 23:46
Yeah triple checked that mate to no avail, everything is in correct and no matter what I put as the setting being 600 or 1 theres always 2 files there at 112mb and 487mb waiting to encoded grr..

Hmm, just noticed though that the 2 files are MPEG-2 and not MPEG-4.. all the others are MPEG-4 at 9gig a file.. hmmm

Post your logs, perhaps there will be something apparent. :confused:

KeVe1983
26th November 2010, 03:31
Hey jdobbs i have a new problem :devil:

My standard settings:

BD25
Quicker Encode for Extras
High Quality (default) 2pass

It's the new Inception BluRay, but i've the same problems with Harry Potter 1+2 Extended.

So the main movie is splitted in some m2ts Files.
BD_Rebuilder encodes some main movie m2ts files as extras, so they will be just 1pass encoded.
So the quality is bad, some parts of the movie are pixelated because of 1pass encoding.

Can i just fix this problem if i remove the Quicker Encode for Extras option?

Or is this a bug of BD_Rebuilder and u can fix it?

jdobbs
26th November 2010, 05:36
Hey jdobbs i have a new problem :devil:

My standard settings:

BD25
Quicker Encode for Extras
High Quality (default) 2pass

It's the new Inception BluRay, but i've the same problems with Harry Potter 1+2 Extended.

So the main movie is splitted in some m2ts Files.
BD_Rebuilder encodes some main movie m2ts files as extras, so they will be just 1pass encoded.
So the quality is bad, some parts of the movie are pixelated because of 1pass encoding.

Can i just fix this problem if i remove the Quicker Encode for Extras option?

Or is this a bug of BD_Rebuilder and u can fix it? That should be impossible. If the files are a part of the main feature playlist they should be encoded with the same quality. Inception hasn't been released here yet, so I can't check that one -- but I've done both of the other two (unless there is a new release of them) and they had no issue for me.

Are these associated with original discs -- and there is no preprocessing of any type? It sure sounds like there has been some manipulation that has corrupted the source.

micflair
26th November 2010, 07:24
Post your logs, perhaps there will be something apparent. :confused:

Hope there is.. here you go!

-----------------------
[21:29:07] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: AN_IDIOT_ABROAD_D1
- Input BD size: 40.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:18:17.399]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:29:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:29:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [21:29:22] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 7)
- [21:29:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 752 frames
- [21:29:22] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:29:50] Video Encode complete
- [21:29:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:29:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:29:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [21:30:47] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 7)
- [21:30:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 3,109 frames
- [21:30:47] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:32:29] Video Encode complete
- [21:32:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:32:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:32:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [21:39:04] Reencoding: VID_00018 (3 of 7)
- [21:39:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 34,196 frames
- [21:39:04] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:11:30] Video Encode complete
- [22:11:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:11:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:12:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [22:21:18] Reencoding: VID_00002 (4 of 7)
- [22:21:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 64,463 frames
- Bitrate: 16,064 Kbs
- [22:21:18] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:43:12] Video Encode complete
- [23:43:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:43:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:46:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [23:58:32] Reencoding: VID_00003 (5 of 7)
- [23:58:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 64,705 frames
- Bitrate: 16,229 Kbs
- [23:58:33] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:12:43] Video Encode complete
- [01:12:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:12:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:15:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [01:23:41] Reencoding: VID_00001 (6 of 7)
- [01:23:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 64,960 frames
- Bitrate: 16,512 Kbs
- [01:23:41] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:46:59] Video Encode complete
- [02:46:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:46:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:59:59] Reencoding: VID_00000 (7 of 7)
- [02:59:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 65,250 frames
- Bitrate: 17,139 Kbs
- [02:59:59] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:22:41] Video Encode complete
- [04:22:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:22:42] Multiplexing M2TS
[04:25:37]PHASE ONE complete
[04:25:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [04:25:37] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[04:25:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[04:25:59]JOB: AN_IDIOT_ABROAD_D1 finished.

rilopes
26th November 2010, 10:37
jdobbs you've been doing a great job here ! Cheers mate !

Straight to the point: I've been doing great BD-9 "movie only" copies with BD-Rebuilder.

But now I want to make a BD-25 full backup of region A "Toy Story 3", keeping just one DTS-MA english and AC3 5.1 portuguese audio tracks and english and portuguese subs.

Can anybody tell me the best settings to do so ?

KeVe1983
26th November 2010, 14:10
That should be impossible. If the files are a part of the main feature playlist they should be encoded with the same quality. Inception hasn't been released here yet, so I can't check that one -- but I've done both of the other two (unless there is a new release of them) and they had no issue for me.

Are these associated with original discs -- and there is no preprocessing of any type? It sure sounds like there has been some manipulation that has corrupted the source.

Sry, but the Source isn't corrupted!
I have ripped the movie 2 times again with Fab and Any.
All play fine on my PC and my Dune HD.

So here are some pictures:

00004.m2ts is a part of the Main Movie and you can see that this1 is just 1pass encoded.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/4vpg9o9p.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2355/4vpg9o9p_jpg.htm)

And here you can see the comparsion between the original, 1pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras enabled) and the 2pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras disabled)
Left is the original, middle1 is the 1pass encode and the right1 is the 2pass encode with Quicker encode for Extras Option disabled

http://s3.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/nlpyo7ee.png (http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2355/nlpyo7ee_png.htm)http://s13.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/dlehgfmu.png (http://s13.directupload.net/file/d/2355/dlehgfmu_png.htm)http://s7.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/d2ai69sd.png (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2355/d2ai69sd_png.htm)

jdobbs
26th November 2010, 14:34
Like I said... nothing I can do until it is released in the U.S. But, honestly, I have my doubts...

Try opening the rip in movie-only mode. If 00004.m2ts isn't in the list, then it isn't a part of the feature playlist. By the way, there are lots of situations in which 1 pass encoding is used even for the main feature. It all depends on your "Quality" settings. But since you didn't post any of your logs or config files (as I always ask), I can't determine anything useful related to your bug report.

jdobbs
26th November 2010, 14:35
jdobbs you've been doing a great job here ! Cheers mate !

Straight to the point: I've been doing great BD-9 "movie only" copies with BD-Rebuilder.

But now I want to make a BD-25 full backup of region A "Toy Story 3", keeping just one DTS-MA english and AC3 5.1 portuguese audio tracks and english and portuguese subs.

Can anybody tell me the best settings to do so ? Use the defaults, they are set as "default" precisely because they are the best settings to use. :)

MrT.
26th November 2010, 16:12
I think I had similar problem yesterday.
When I input blu-ray into bd-rb, the main movie was not expanded, it was an extra video file.

my setting ARE BD-25,, HIGH QUALITY, 2 -PASS.

I'm just used to seeing the main movie always expanded from the Stream list. This was the first time the main movie was not, just one of the extras.
Do you think the main movie was still encoded as the main movie?
The movie was Expendables.

Capsbackup
26th November 2010, 17:05
Hope there is.. here you go!


Also post your .INF, shows your configuration setup.

micflair
26th November 2010, 18:36
Also post your .INF, shows your configuration setup.

okay mate.. erm.. wheres that? :p

Ch3vr0n
26th November 2010, 19:43
in your temp folder & bd-rebuilder install folder

setarip_old
26th November 2010, 20:48
@MrT.

Hi!

You've nothing to worry about, if you've selected full disc copy and did NOT select "Quick extras" (or whatever that wording is).

BD-RB, as well as virtually any other conversion and/or ripping program will typically presume that the LARGEST individual file is the "main movie". In the case of "The Expendables", the largest individual file (6+Gb) is, in fact, an "Extras" files - while the main movie is comprised of multiple, smaller files...

MrT.
26th November 2010, 21:02
Hi! seta rip :)
I did have "Quicker" Encode for extras selected.. I will re-do it with it NOT selected.
Thanks a lot for that info, I overlooked it. It will probably take twice as long, luckily this is not the norm :D
Good day...

micflair
26th November 2010, 21:07
in your temp folder & bd-rebuilder install folder

I cant find anything in my temp or bd-rebuilder install folder called .inf or with the extension of .inf.. am I having a blonde moment here guys..

jdobbs
26th November 2010, 21:10
I think I had similar problem yesterday.
When I input blu-ray into bd-rb, the main movie was not expanded, it was an extra video file.

my setting ARE BD-25,, HIGH QUALITY, 2 -PASS.

I'm just used to seeing the main movie always expanded from the Stream list. This was the first time the main movie was not, just one of the extras.
Do you think the main movie was still encoded as the main movie?
The movie was Expendables. That can happen, not very often, but it can happen. There actually is no way of positively telling which playlist is the feature since there is no flag on the disc saying "I'm the main movie", so BD-RB makes a best guess. In most cases it chooses the largest playlist. But, when you have two that are within about 10 minutes of each other (in length) it will choose the second largest (so it will default to the "standard" version rather than "extended" when both are present.

If you have an extra that is larger than the feature -- it is possible it could be picked for movie-only. When that happens, you just select a different playlist.

jdobbs
26th November 2010, 21:12
I cant find anything in my temp or bd-rebuilder install folder called .inf or with the extension of .inf.. am I having a blonde moment here guys.. The INI is in the BD Rebuilder folder. The INF is in the working folder. It's gotta' be there (unless it was deleted) -- BD Rebuilder won't work without it.

micflair
26th November 2010, 22:39
ok im with it now.. heres the inf..


[Status]
LABEL=AN_IDIOT_ABROAD_D1
VERSION=v0.36.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43187173778
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=43060180992
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.569308875375012
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=7
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5451307410
RATE=15251
NSTART=27000000
NEND=144449280
NSIZE=5258207232
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5426777102
RATE=15250
NSTART=27000000
NEND=143926560
NSIZE=5225508864
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5393295837
RATE=15269
NSTART=27000000
NEND=143032320
NSIZE=5212084224
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00003]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=5406328766
RATE=15252
NSTART=27000000
NEND=143468640
NSIZE=5228132352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=289792027
RATE=17122
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32594400
NSIZE=286212096
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=69946181
RATE=17086
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28351800
NSIZE=70311936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=2477095891
RATE=13166
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88551360
NSIZE=2409492480
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

looks like its written in russian to me.. lol

micflair
26th November 2010, 23:07
and heres the other..


[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.4
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=M:\BD\
SOURCE_PATH=E:\

Capsbackup
26th November 2010, 23:15
@micflair;
This is not present in your log above, as you stated it was earlier, which is why your backup keeps reencoding the menu files and anything below 600MB. :rolleyes:
You need to make sure you put the wording in correctly and in the right place. Example:
Below [Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600
If you check BD-RB files to reencode from the list, the files less than this size will not be present.

So copy: MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600 just below the [Options] file and save it, then start BD-RB again. You should see less files to reencode in the BD-RB list.

worknstiff
27th November 2010, 02:05
I was just wondering if anyone else has run into this prob. I recently got a new Bluray player BDT350 and it plays most of my backup BD_RB disks just fine, but not all. It seems it does not like any of the disks that were created using BD_Rebuilder from about 6 months ago to over a year ago. They play on the BDT350 but don't have any video output, but they play just fine on my old DMP-BD35. There is really no rhyme or reason I can come up with that makes one disk play and the other one not unless there is something in the different versions of BD_RD that has changed. (I have the Startrek movies and none of the 1to6 older disks play but the Next Generation ones do and all were done around the same time.) I am doing a replacement encode now to see if I can use the new index structure to fix the disk and make it playable.

rilopes
27th November 2010, 10:53
Use the defaults, they are set as "default" precisely because they are the best settings to use. :)

Thanks jdobbs !

I tried default settings, but changed a little bit...and it worked ( logs attached ). Burned to a BD-RE and played in my Samsung BD-3600 player.

Toy Story 3 movie has some frames which are specific for each language. So, every time these frames are shown, the image pauses ( not sound ) and is played again seconds later from exactly same point.

I remember some Disney DVD's where it happened too.

May be a BD-rebuilder bug ?

omegaman7
27th November 2010, 18:27
Just encoded "The expendables"(BD-25) yesterday. Longest encode thus far. 13+ hours at High quality (Default) with quick encode for extras. I have a feeling it's gonna be a while before we tame that down to under an hour average :S

Jdobbs, you said you have a quad, I'm curious how yours fairs? My Phenom 940 @3.5Ghz is my X264 slave :D How long did your backup of "The Expendables" take? I'm planning a new build in february. Wondering if it's really worth it...

DrKajun
27th November 2010, 18:41
Whats the "FULL_AVCHD" switch in the INI do? If I set this to 1, will it do a Full Backup with strict AVCHD?

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 00:23
Whats the "FULL_AVCHD" switch in the INI do? If I set this to 1, will it do a Full Backup with strict AVCHD???? There is no switch called "FULL_AVCHD"...

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 00:24
Just encoded "The expendables"(BD-25) yesterday. Longest encode thus far. 13+ hours at High quality (Default) with quick encode for extras. I have a feeling it's gonna be a while before we tame that down to under an hour average :S

Jdobbs, you said you have a quad, I'm curious how yours fairs? My Phenom 940 @3.5Ghz is my X264 slave :D How long did your backup of "The Expendables" take? I'm planning a new build in february. Wondering if it's really worth it...

I haven't done "The Expendables" yet. When I do it, I'll let you know how long it took.

Capsbackup
28th November 2010, 02:31
??? There is no switch called "FULL_AVCHD"...

I think DrKajun might be refering to the BDREBUILDER configuration settings. From my BD-RB folder:

[Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100
KEEP_MBTREE=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=4500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=4525
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
VERSION=0.36.0.4
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BD RIPS\
WORKING_PATH=G:\

setarip_old
28th November 2010, 02:58
@omegaman7

Hi!

I believe that the reason "The Expendables" takes so long to process is that it contains an ENTIRE second copy of the movie as the "BonusView", modified for PIP with commentary (Does not appear to use seamless branching), as well as extensive commentary and a good number of extras.

{My guess is, that when the producers realized how poor the actual movie is, they tried to add as many distractions as possible ;>})

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 04:24
Just encoded "The expendables"(BD-25) yesterday. Longest encode thus far. 13+ hours at High quality (Default) with quick encode for extras. I have a feeling it's gonna be a while before we tame that down to under an hour average :S

Jdobbs, you said you have a quad, I'm curious how yours fairs? My Phenom 940 @3.5Ghz is my X264 slave :D How long did your backup of "The Expendables" take? I'm planning a new build in february. Wondering if it's really worth it... I see why it takes so long -- there's 5 1/2 hours of video on that disc... I'm doing it now -- I'll let you know how long it takes.

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 04:29
@Capsbackup

??? That's probably something left over from early testing. But it certainly has no affect now. BD Rebuilder never reads the value.

audit13
28th November 2010, 05:14
I just want to start off by saying this is an awesome program.

I compressed Splice and English Patient (movie only, dvd-9, default settings) and the audio was out of sync with the video at the end of the compression process. There seems to be no rhyme or reason because other movies that were compressed with the same settings were perfect.

I recompressed Splice using the same settings and it turned out fine. I'm inthe process of re-compressing English Patient.

Both movies had DTS-HD soundtracks.

Any ideas as to why this sometimes happens?

DrKajun
28th November 2010, 05:48
I think DrKajun might be refering to the BDREBUILDER configuration settings. From my BD-RB folder:

[Options]
FULL_AVCHD=0


Correct, was wonder what this switch in the INI does?

Capsbackup
28th November 2010, 05:52
I compressed Splice and English Patient (movie only, dvd-9, default settings) and the audio was out of sync with the video at the end of the compression process. There seems to be no rhyme or reason because other movies that were compressed with the same settings were perfect.
Any ideas as to why this sometimes happens?

What are you playing the backups with, software player or standalone?

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 07:06
I just want to start off by saying this is an awesome program.

I compressed Splice and English Patient (movie only, dvd-9, default settings) and the audio was out of sync with the video at the end of the compression process. There seems to be no rhyme or reason because other movies that were compressed with the same settings were perfect.

I recompressed Splice using the same settings and it turned out fine. I'm inthe process of re-compressing English Patient.

Both movies had DTS-HD soundtracks.

Any ideas as to why this sometimes happens? It's never happened to me... but if you did it with a version prior to 36.3 it could be this:

- Corrected an error in which audio streams that
contained delays, and were not in the initial
(SETUP defined) list of selections, could (if
later selected from the streams list) be muxed
out-of-sync.

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 15:22
Just encoded "The expendables"(BD-25) yesterday. Longest encode thus far. 13+ hours at High quality (Default) with quick encode for extras. I have a feeling it's gonna be a while before we tame that down to under an hour average :S

Jdobbs, you said you have a quad, I'm curious how yours fairs? My Phenom 940 @3.5Ghz is my X264 slave :D How long did your backup of "The Expendables" take? I'm planning a new build in february. Wondering if it's really worth it... I'm running a Phenom II X4 945 overclocked to 3.4Ghz running on an older AMD2+ MB with 8GB of DDR2 memory. It took 7 hrs and 4 min to complete "The Expendables".

Not bad, actually, for a disc with 5 1/2 hours of content.

worknstiff
28th November 2010, 15:23
FYI: Regarding my Panasonic DMP-BDT350 (Quote: Bluray player BDT350 plays most of my backup BD_RB disks just fine, but not all.) Don't know if there is an easy fix for this but just in case anyone else has this problem, the difference between the unplayable disks and the newest disks processed by BD_Rebuilder are that they are High Profile 4.0 instead of High Profile 4.1 that was used earlier. I wonder when this was changed and why? I wonder why my older BD35 can play both and the BDT-350 plays it but with no video output. It is weird because you would think the BDT350 would like the higher bitrate allowed by the 4.1 profile, but I'm sure jdobbs must have had a good reason to go back to 4.0 from the older 4.1 profile. I wish there was an easy fix to make these older disks playable without recoding and burning all of them. At any rate thanks jdobbs for the great program, even if there are a few glitches here and there. It is a work in progress after all.

audit13
28th November 2010, 15:30
What are you playing the backups with, software player or standalone?

I used a Sony bdps-370 standalone.

I also used TotalMedia Theatre 3 on my htpc to playback the bdmv folder from my hard drive.

It's never happened to me... but if you did it with a version prior to 36.3 it could be this:

- Corrected an error in which audio streams that
contained delays, and were not in the initial
(SETUP defined) list of selections, could (if
later selected from the streams list) be muxed
out-of-sync.

I used version 36.04 and it just finished compressing for a second time. I tried playing bak the bdmv folder on my htpc and the audio is out of synch. I went back to the original and the original is fine.

Not sure but I'll do a full backup to see if that makes a difference.

Thanks for the information.

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 15:32
FYI: Regarding my Panasonic DMP-BDT350 (Quote: Bluray player BDT350 plays most of my backup BD_RB disks just fine, but not all.) Don't know if there is an easy fix for this but just in case anyone else has this problem, the difference between the unplayable disks and the newest disks processed by BD_Rebuilder are that they are High Profile 4.0 instead of High Profile 4.1 that was used earlier. I wonder when this was changed and why? I wonder why my older BD35 can play both and the BDT-350 plays it but with no video output. It is weird because you would think the BDT350 would like the higher bitrate allowed by the 4.1 profile, but I'm sure jdobbs must have had a good reason to go back to 4.0 from the older 4.1 profile. I wish there was an easy fix to make these older disks playable without recoding and burning all of them. At any rate thanks jdobbs for the great program, even if there are a few glitches here and there. It is a work in progress after all. It was changed to Level 4.0 on BD-5/9 specifically to provide greater compatibility on certain players. It's interesting that Panasonic would see issues. From the AVCHD Wiki:Panasonic AVCHD camcorders use AVC with High Profile @ Level 4.0 for all modes except 1080p50/1080p60, which are encoded with High Profile @ Level 4.2. Maximum data rate is limited to 24 Mbit/s for AVCCAM models, to 17 Mbit/s for most consumer models and to 28 Mbit/s for 1080p50/1080p60 recording modes. My guess is that they have built their players to specifically support their recorders... Panasonic has a history of going their own way. Remember DVD-RAM?

It's one of those "how you interpret it" things... according to spec AVCHD will support Level 4.1 up to 24Mbs or Level 4.0 up to 18Mbs. DVD media (as defined in this context) is limited to 18Mbs -- so some people read that as "DVD must be Level 4.0". On the other hand, some would say there should no reason you can't use Level 4.1 -- since you can limit the bitrate as you see fit without changing the level.

There's really no disadvantage to using Level 4.0 when outputting to DVD, so I changed the code to make it more compatible.

jdobbs
28th November 2010, 16:15
I used a Sony bdps-370 standalone.

I also used TotalMedia Theatre 3 on my htpc to playback the bdmv folder from my hard drive.



I used version 36.04 and it just finished compressing for a second time. I tried playing bak the bdmv folder on my htpc and the audio is out of synch. I went back to the original and the original is fine.

Not sure but I'll do a full backup to see if that makes a difference.

Thanks for the information. It's possible that the secondary video may be a hybrid or pulldown source that isn't being decoded properly... I'll take a look at it.

bassnut
28th November 2010, 16:18
Just encoded "The expendables"(BD-25) yesterday. Longest encode thus far. 13+ hours at High quality (Default) with quick encode for extras. I have a feeling it's gonna be a while before we tame that down to under an hour average :S

Jdobbs, you said you have a quad, I'm curious how yours fairs? My Phenom 940 @3.5Ghz is my X264 slave :D How long did your backup of "The Expendables" take? I'm planning a new build in february. Wondering if it's really worth it...

I am doing the Expendables now. Had a motherboard die on me and the system is not quite setup yet but will let you know how long. PII 109T on CROSSHAIR IV Extream. The PII1090T on my old 790FX was running about 1.5 hours on default quallity settings.

omegaman7
28th November 2010, 19:23
Thanks Jdobbs, and everyone concerned. I did realize that there is a great deal of video space on the disc(5+hrs). The BD-50 was after all 46+Gb. One of the largest I've dealt with.
Just over 7hrs eh? Hmmm, perhaps you removed things I did not. Most the time, it averages between 5 - 8 hrs. If 1090t can average 1.5hrs, Bulldozer WILL be justified. I guess I should wait and see though. I think they're figuring quarter one on Bulldozer release :D

I guess I could see how my 965 @ 3.9Ghz fairs by comparison. Could be an interesting experiment ;)

bassnut
28th November 2010, 21:55
Thanks Jdobbs, and everyone concerned. I did realize that there is a great deal of video space on the disc(5+hrs). The BD-50 was after all 46+Gb. One of the largest I've dealt with.
Just over 7hrs eh? Hmmm, perhaps you removed things I did not. Most the time, it averages between 5 - 8 hrs. If 1090t can average 1.5hrs, Bulldozer WILL be justified. I guess I should wait and see though. I think they're figuring quarter one on Bulldozer release :D

I guess I could see how my 965 @ 3.9Ghz fairs by comparison. Could be an interesting experiment ;)

Well the expendables is still running and looks like it will be done shortly so about 6 hrs at High Quality(default) Settings. So it comes out a little longer than expected averaging 38fps 1st ..pass and 32 fps .... second pass.

I ussually use the Automatic quality settings and my 1.5 hr comparison was with the 1090T OC'd to 4200ghz where I was averaging 48fps 1st pass and 42 fps 2nd pass when needed. The last Airbender and Sorcerers Aprentice.

I am stock right now with all 6 core maxed which I couldn't do when OC'd @ 4200 (about 60 - 70%) and have not had time to get the bugs out of the system yet and Asus has left a few in the MB. I found when I upgraded from the 965 also OC'd to 3900 I gained about 10 - 15 fps all around depending on the source. the 1090T loves to be OC'd compared to the 965.

omegaman7
28th November 2010, 22:06
Thanks for the info. I generally don't like running long processes on my primary machine(Phenom 965). But perhaps in the not too distant future, I can retire 940(sell on ebay), and purchase 1090t. Really depends on Bulldozers cost, and how much money I can make over the next month. Hopefully I pick up some overtime ;)

Sharc
28th November 2010, 23:20
When I select 'Alternate Output' and for example one of the MKV containers, I can activate both 'Constant Rate Factor Output (CRF)' AND 'Two Pass Bitrate Encoding'. I thought the 2 should be exclusive.

When I unselect 'Constant Rate Factor Output (CRF)' and select 'Two Pass Bitrate Encoding', I cannot edit the target bitrate, but only the CRF.

Is this a bug?

jdobbs
29th November 2010, 01:01
When I select 'Alternate Output' and for example one of the MKV containers, I can activate both 'Constant Rate Factor Output (CRF)' AND 'Two Pass Bitrate Encoding'. I thought the 2 should be exclusive.

When I unselect 'Constant Rate Factor Output (CRF)' and select 'Two Pass Bitrate Encoding', I cannot edit the target bitrate, but only the CRF.

Is this a bug? It must be... I'll check it out. You obviously can run both at once.


[Edit] I just tested it, and I can't activate both... the checkbox can only be set on one or the other. You can never edit the bitrate (currently), it is set in the ALTERNATE.TXT file that holds all the profiles. You can always edit the CRF, but it is only applicable if you have CRF encoding selected.

MickJT
29th November 2010, 06:49
Has something changed since the 4th of November, page 502, and now, with the Inspect tool?

I don't think i've ever seen "FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO" listed in the Inspect tool, but it's not often I use BD-Rebuilder, and generally it gets removed when i'm done, and a new version is out when I need it again.

FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO is not mentioned in the Inspect tool here. Should it be?

Edit: I'm also hesistant to ask this next question, because it's probably been repeated many times. Why is "FFMPEG encoder" unselectable in "Encoder"? Is there any condition in which it is selectable?

rilopes
29th November 2010, 10:39
Thanks jdobbs !

I tried default settings, but changed a little bit...and it worked ( logs attached ). Burned to a BD-RE and played in my Samsung BD-3600 player.

Toy Story 3 movie has some frames which are specific for each language. So, every time these frames are shown, the image freezes ( not sound ) and is played again seconds later from exactly same point.

I remember some Disney DVD's where it happened too.

May be a BD-rebuilder bug ?


Sorry jdobbs, any comments ? Has anyone been through this ???

wooper
29th November 2010, 14:15
I'd need a lot more information in order to be able to help you, please post your BDREBUILDER.INI, the .INF file for the disc you're processing, and the log from the encode.

Hi here is the log file

-----------------------
[23:11:53] BD Rebuilder v0.35.01 (beta)
- Source: HARRY_POTTER_6
- Input BD size: 28.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:23:33.284]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:11:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:11:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00067]
- [23:11:57] Reencoding: VID_00067 (1 of 17)
- [23:11:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,824 frames
- [23:11:57] Reencoding: VID_00067, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:13:26] Video Encode complete
- [23:13:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:13:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:13:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [23:13:34] Reencoding: VID_00004 (2 of 17)
- [23:13:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,998 frames
- [23:13:34] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:15:08] Video Encode complete
- [23:15:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:15:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:15:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [23:15:15] Reencoding: VID_00009 (3 of 17)
- [23:15:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,991 frames
- [23:15:15] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:16:49] Video Encode complete
- [23:16:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:16:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:16:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00072]
- [23:16:57] Reencoding: VID_00072 (4 of 17)
- [23:16:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,021 frames
- [23:16:57] Reencoding: VID_00072, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:18:28] Video Encode complete
- [23:18:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:18:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:18:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [23:18:35] Reencoding: VID_00007 (5 of 17)
- [23:18:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,062 frames
- [23:18:35] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:20:13] Video Encode complete
- [23:20:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:20:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:20:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00069]
- [23:20:21] Reencoding: VID_00069 (6 of 17)
- [23:20:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,590 frames
- [23:20:21] Reencoding: VID_00069, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:22:18] Video Encode complete
- [23:22:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:22:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:22:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:22:27] Reencoding: VID_00010 (7 of 17)
- [23:22:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,154 frames
- [23:22:27] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:24:13] Video Encode complete
- [23:24:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:24:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:24:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00680]
- [23:24:29] Reencoding: VID_00680 (8 of 17)
- [23:24:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [23:25:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,498 frames
- [23:25:17] Reencoding: VID_00680, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:31:08] Video Encode complete
- [23:31:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:31:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:31:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [23:31:17] Reencoding: VID_00005 (9 of 17)
- [23:31:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,965 frames
- [23:31:17] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:33:25] Video Encode complete
- [23:33:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:33:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:33:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [23:33:34] Reencoding: VID_00003 (10 of 17)
- [23:33:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,029 frames
- [23:33:34] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:35:43] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:35:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [23:35:52] Reencoding: VID_00006 (11 of 17)
- [23:35:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,075 frames
- [23:35:52] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:38:03] Video Encode complete
- [23:38:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:38:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:38:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [23:38:12] Reencoding: VID_00008 (12 of 17)
- [23:38:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,239 frames
- [23:38:12] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:40:30] Video Encode complete
- [23:40:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:40:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:40:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00068]
- [23:40:39] Reencoding: VID_00068 (13 of 17)
- [23:40:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,312 frames
- [23:40:39] Reencoding: VID_00068, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:42:58] Video Encode complete
- [23:42:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:43:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:43:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00071]
- [23:43:07] Reencoding: VID_00071 (14 of 17)
- [23:43:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,942 frames
- [23:43:07] Reencoding: VID_00071, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:45:35] Video Encode complete
- [23:45:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:45:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:45:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [23:45:46] Reencoding: VID_00001 (15 of 17)
- [23:45:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,965 frames
- [23:45:46] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:48:24] Video Encode complete
- [23:48:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:48:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:48:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00070]
- [23:48:35] Reencoding: VID_00070 (16 of 17)
- [23:48:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,320 frames
- [23:48:35] Reencoding: VID_00070, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:51:18] Video Encode complete
- [23:51:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:51:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:51:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [00:02:38] Reencoding: VID_00000 (17 of 17)
- [00:02:38] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [00:24:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 220,841 frames
- Bitrate: 15,418 Kbs
- [00:24:12] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:40:41] Video Encode complete
- [02:40:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:45:41] Multiplexing M2TS
[02:59:15]PHASE ONE complete
[02:59:15]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:59:15] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[02:59:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[02:59:27]JOB: HARRY_POTTER_6 finished.

and the rebuilder.ini

[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=T:\PELICULAS BD\DARKN_BD25_WWW.SVERDOS.COM\
WORKING_PATH=T:\PELICULAS BD\DARK KNIGHT RECDIFICADO\

the inf for the disc

[Status]
LABEL=HARRY_POTTER_6
VERSION=v0.35.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=31102790871
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30885642240
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.780615613612702
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=17
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00067]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=127106304
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32300640
NSIZE=120809472
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00004]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=133969526
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32627520
NSIZE=127672320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=134075041
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32613120
NSIZE=110739456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00072]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=134583427
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32670720
NSIZE=112558080
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00007]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=136310024
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32747040
NSIZE=131438592
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00069]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=159556732
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33737760
NSIZE=182212608
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=178285512
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32919840
NSIZE=227106816
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00680]
AUDIO=11
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=178482152
NSTART=27000000
NEND=54209056
NSIZE=147707904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=178654812
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34441920
NSIZE=156469248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00003]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=180995310
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34561440
NSIZE=151007232
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=184347785
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34647840
NSIZE=180873216
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=190170253
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34956000
NSIZE=206966784
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00068]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=193503545
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35092800
NSIZE=176019456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00071]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=218481646
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36275040
NSIZE=184694784
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=222505575
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36318240
NSIZE=211550208
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00070]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11
M2TS_TARGET=238874673
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36984960
NSIZE=215482368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1011
PGS=10110
M2TS_TARGET=21466506025
RATE=15418
NSTART=27000000
NEND=441534240
NSIZE=20569491456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


and the process is, fullbackup, "Quicker encode extras", encoder "x264 encoder", output options "BD25", verbose status reporting

let me know if you need more info

wooper
29th November 2010, 14:31
Hi there, i have a problem with the movie "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood prince", I did a full backup but the weird thing is that BD-Rebuilder doesn't show any error, it just says thats everything went perfect, but when i reproduce the movie in my pc the spanish audio doesn't hear very well, it sounds paused and sometimes slow, so what might be the problem? some settings to change? thanks

the last post is for this problem

jdobbs
29th November 2010, 14:59
Has something changed since the 4th of November, page 502, and now, with the Inspect tool?

I don't think i've ever seen "FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO" listed in the Inspect tool, but it's not often I use BD-Rebuilder, and generally it gets removed when i'm done, and a new version is out when I need it again.

FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO is not mentioned in the Inspect tool here. Should it be?

Edit: I'm also hesistant to ask this next question, because it's probably been repeated many times. Why is "FFMPEG encoder" unselectable in "Encoder"? Is there any condition in which it is selectable?Ignore it. I've taken it out again.

jdobbs
29th November 2010, 15:03
the last post is for this problem 1. You're using an old version that is out of date. There have been four newer releases since then. I only accept bug reports on current versions.

2. Have you tried it on a standalone player? PC codecs and playback can be flakey...

3. It looks like the only language you have selected in SETUP is English.

It could be this (from v0.36.03):- Corrected an error in which audio streams that
contained delays, and were not in the initial
(SETUP defined) list of selections, could (if
later selected from the streams list) be muxed
out-of-sync.

or this if you stopped and started over (from v0.36.01):- Corrected an issue in which stopping BD-RB during
audio encoding would leave the WAVI and AFTEN
processes running. As a result, restarting soon
afterward could cause unpredictable anomalies in
the audio, including sync and size issues.

Sharc
29th November 2010, 20:05
It must be... I'll check it out. You obviously can run both at once.


[Edit] I just tested it, and I can't activate both... the checkbox can only be set on one or the other. You can never edit the bitrate (currently), it is set in the ALTERNATE.TXT file that holds all the profiles. You can always edit the CRF, but it is only applicable if you have CRF encoding selected.
Thanks. The double activation was gone after rebooting the system. So something was probably out of order here.

m.rup
29th November 2010, 21:05
Unfortunately, an encode with version 3604 still shows the problem. I tried it with some other BDs (e.g. Alice in Wonderland), and it worked well. So this seems to be a special problem of the CARS BD.
Besides, is there a way to downgrade to an earlier version of BD-Rebuilder for testing purposes? I tried but got a message that there is anewer version and I should use it.

jdobbs
29th November 2010, 21:12
Unfortunately, an encode with version 3604 still shows the problem. I tried it with some other BDs (e.g. Alice in Wonderland), and it worked well. So this seems to be a special problem of the CARS BD.
Besides, is there a way to downgrade to an earlier version of BD-Rebuilder for testing purposes? I tried but got a message that there is anewer version and I should use it.

I tested "CARS" over-and-over and it worked correctly. I've also gotten no other reports of this issue as you've described it from any other users... I'm not sure what else I can do.

m.rup
29th November 2010, 21:17
Maybe you could tell me how to downgrade, so I can try some earlier version of BD_Rebuilder, and if it works then, maybe the logs could be helpful.

jdobbs
29th November 2010, 22:55
Maybe you could tell me how to downgrade, so I can try some earlier version of BD_Rebuilder, and if it works then, maybe the logs could be helpful. Sorry, but I have to continue to treat this as a beta program -- I make the old versions expire so I don't keep getting reports on things that have been fixed. I have to believe that the copy of "CARS" you have is corrupted -- because your report is the only one in which there is an issue. An old version isn't going to act any differently.

Adbear
30th November 2010, 08:16
I was wondering what the recommended version of Haali splitter is as I downloaded the one linked to in the first post, but the inspect program keeps telling me it's not the recommended version

MickJT
30th November 2010, 08:43
Ignore it. I've taken it out again.

And what about "FFMPEG Encoder". How is that used? Must you set ENCODER=1 and supply ffmpeg.exe? Is there any condition where the option is not greyed out?

haruntt
30th November 2010, 13:55
Thanks for sharing.

datman
30th November 2010, 14:55
I did a movie only to BD-25 and all the extras are mixed in with the movie. I'm going to try a full backup and see.

jdobbs
30th November 2010, 15:38
I was wondering what the recommended version of Haali splitter is as I downloaded the one linked to in the first post, but the inspect program keeps telling me it's not the recommended version Some HAALI versions fail to remove content from the "c:\program files\HAALI\MatroskaSplitter" folder, and it shows to BD-RB as the wrong version. You need to uninstall HAALI, then manually delete that folder and install the one from the first post of the Bug Reporting thread.

jdobbs
30th November 2010, 15:39
And what about "FFMPEG Encoder". How is that used? Must you set ENCODER=1 and supply ffmpeg.exe? Is there any condition where the option is not greyed out? It isn't, it's leftover from earlier plans. I was originally going to use multiple encoding options - but frankly nothing else even comes close to X264, so there's no point. FFMPEG would just use X264 code anyway.

Race Guy
30th November 2010, 15:49
Hey jdobbs!

Here's an FYI on how you're (mis?)calculating video size based on the available audio.

I did a BD-25 compilation of season 1 of my "Elvis Costello Spectacle" set. The original is 3 discs, with four 50 minute shows per disc. The shows have both DTS-HD MA & LPCM 2.0 audio tracks & 1080i vid.

To do the comp, I use multiAVCHD to add the individual titles "full size", build a menu & output a new "BluRay". Then I run that thru BD-RB to get it "to size". In my comp, I did 3 shows off disc 1, plus the four each off discs 2 & 3 for 11 total & I'm keeping only the DTS MA track.

For some reason, mAVCHD would not let me deselect the LPCM on the 3 shows from disc 1, so I built the comp that way, eps 1-3 with both audio tracks, eps 4-11 with only MA.

I load this new 50+GB "package" in BD-RB & deselect LPCM for eps 1-3 in the streams tab & start the rebuild. With that scenario, basically 11 identical titles, I should get nearly identical video bitrates for each, correct? But I DON'T! Titles 1-3 get around 4100k± & titles 4-11 get around 3100k±. I let it finish, do a test burn & it looks good & I can't really tell the diff between 4100k & 3100k visually, but since I have a 1090 Hex CPU that pounds these out, I decide to redo it.

I set my output target to exceed the project, deselect LPCM from the first 3 eps & let BD-RB remux it, stripping out the LPCM. Now I have the same project, minus LPCM & I start the rebuild. This time, I get all titles with similar bitrates of 3400k±. The question is, why didn't I get the 3400k rates on the first run?

BTW, that's 9+ HOURS of content, with the hi-rez sound, crammed on a 25 & it looks GREAT! I did it 2 pass at highest quality & it took 25 hours. Keep in mind that it was 1080i, so I think you take a speed hit on the 29.97fps vs 1080p/23.976fps.

jdobbs
30th November 2010, 15:59
I'm not sure I'm getting it. So what changed between the first and second run? Only the target size? What size did you use?

I'm not sure about "miscalculating" -- my encodes always come out at the size I expect.

The reason they may be different bitrates is because the bitrate is based upon the original bitrate... you'll probably find that the first three files have higher bitrates on the original as well. But I'll look at it and see if I can find anything. But any inaccuracies I've ever found all relate to inconsistent muxing (I have to estimate how big the output will be after muxing -- and the muxing isn't very consistent).

[Edit] I just remembered, the target size for an M2TS is based on the original size and then adjusted for reduction to fit on the target. So if the original was larger (because of the LPCM included), it's output allocation would be larger too... resulting in larger bitrate (because the LPCM is being removed).

Race Guy
30th November 2010, 17:59
[Edit] I just remembered, the target size for an M2TS is based on the original size and then adjusted for reduction to fit on the target. So if the original was larger (because of the LPCM included), it's output allocation would be larger too... resulting in larger bitrate (because the LPCM is being removed).

There you go! That's the discrepancy. Run #1 had LPCM still in the 3 eps, run #2, the LPCM was stripped out.

Logically, if you ran the downsize calc after demux, I think you'd have much better "solution". The way it is now, the main M2TS with a lot of hi-rez sound is getting "over-downsized", while a big extra with say only one DD2.0 track is getting "under-downsized".

I've seen main titles with two DTS-HD MA plus all the other language tracks. I've also seen a couple of concerts with True HD and DTS-HD MA on the main title.

I'm not hip to writing code, so maybe it's not possible to pick up those numbers after demux???

See ya!

jdobbs
30th November 2010, 18:05
There you go! That's the discrepancy. Run #1 had LPCM still in the 3 eps, run #2, the LPCM was stripped out.

Logically, if you ran the downsize calc after demux, I think you'd have much better "solution". The way it is now, the main M2TS with a lot of hi-rez sound is getting "over-downsized", while a big extra with say only one DD2.0 track is getting "under-downsized".

I've seen main titles with two DTS-HD MA plus all the other language tracks. I've also seen a couple of concerts with True HD and DTS-HD MA on the main title.

I'm not hip to writing code, so maybe it's not possible to pick up those numbers after demux???

See ya! The problem is that in order for that to work you'd have to demux everything before starting -- adding a lot more time and disc requirements.

What you're saying isn't accurate. The space is allocated based upon the original disc's priorities. If a 2.0 track was used, sure, the size would be smaller -- but the allocation would be equal to the video of the original. The only time it would matter is if you have two sources that are of equal weight in which one had LPCM and another didn't, and you were removing it on one but not the other (because it was missing) -- that just doesn't happen unless the source is preprocessed (as is true in your case).

I've seen main titles with two DTS-HD MA plus all the other language tracks. I've also seen a couple of concerts with True HD and DTS-HD MA on the main title. I don't think I get the point. In this example the feature wouldn't suffer from all the languages... in fact if you didn't keep them all, it would get an improved bitrate because it also gets the bits from the removed languages. Either way, if it took up 60% of the available space on the original, it would also take up 60% of the available space on the target.

Race Guy
30th November 2010, 18:18
I don't think I get the point. In this example the feature wouldn't suffer from all the languages... in fact if you didn't keep them all, it would get an improved bitrate because it also gets the bits from the removed languages. Either way, if it took up 60% of the available space on the original, it would also take up 60% of the available space on the target.

I get it now! I was looking at the "equation" back-asswards! Dumping sound leaves a "void" that gets filled by more video.

setarip_old
30th November 2010, 18:54
@datman problem with The Expendables
I did a movie only to BD-25 and all the extras are mixed in with the movie.You likely accepted the BD-RB selection of the largest file - which, in this somewhat rare instance, is actually the "PIP Extras" video...

omegaman7
30th November 2010, 19:05
I did a movie only to BD-25 and all the extras are mixed in with the movie. I'm going to try a full backup and see.

Please don't misunderstand me, because I mean no ill-will. But why would you do that? X264 is a freak of a good encoder. I can understand backing up a main title to BD-9 or BD-5, but BD-25 can handle A LOT of video space. I'm talking hours and hours. If it were possible to burn AVCHD compliancy to BD-25, you could put 9-10hrs on it, and barely notice a difference. Unless you use a projector ;)

I guess if you're after a quicker encode, then I understand. Myself, I prefer an exact backup.

Denada
30th November 2010, 23:40
Needed to upgrade to 36.01 because the version I had in use was no longer useable.. tried to make a BD25 disc of Inception EUR bluray, set the encoder to highest (very slow). Noticing the audio does not match the video, seems to be a slight delay.. made a BD25 disc of Superbad after this, no problem. Upgraded to 36.04 and tried Inception again, same problem.. Did a bd25 of the other guys with 36.04, again no problem..

Kinda strange, anyone else having problems with Inception?

jdobbs
30th November 2010, 23:48
Needed to upgrade to 36.01 because the version I had in use was no longer useable.. tried to make a BD25 disc of Inception EUR bluray, set the encoder to highest (very slow). Noticing the audio does not match the video, seems to be a slight delay.. made a BD25 disc of Superbad after this, no problem. Upgraded to 36.04 and tried Inception again, same problem.. Did a bd25 of the other guys with 36.04, again no problem..

Kinda strange, anyone else having problems with Inception?

Inception hasn't been released in the U.S. I believe it is scheduled for release on the 7th of Dec.

omegaman7
30th November 2010, 23:48
Inception won't be out in the states til next week :( I've had audio sync issues due to bad optical drives(Bad rip). In my experience, it has only happened with Lite-on drives. I'm not happy about it either...:mad:

Capsbackup
1st December 2010, 00:01
Inception won't be out in the states til next week :( I've had audio sync issues due to bad optical drives(Bad rip). In my experience, it has only happened with Lite-on drives. I'm not happy about it either...:mad:

I have been using a Lite-On drive for ripping my Blu-rays for almost two years, and have never had a bad rip! :cool:

omegaman7
1st December 2010, 00:11
Clearly, I simply have bad luck then LOL!

Ch3vr0n
1st December 2010, 01:18
Well inception is released in the EU :) BDRB processed my copy flawlessly :) AnyDVD + BDRB = killer combo :)

Capsbackup
1st December 2010, 01:18
Some HAALI versions fail to remove content from the "c:\program files\HAALI\MatroskaSplitter" folder, and it shows to BD-RB as the wrong version. You need to uninstall HAALI, then manually delete that folder and install the one from the first post of the Bug Reporting thread.

I think this should be added to the BD-RB FAQ, since it does seem to come up alot! :(

jdobbs
1st December 2010, 02:11
I think this should be added to the BD-RB FAQ, since it does seem to come up alot! :(Good idea.

rilopes
3rd December 2010, 10:46
I made a full backup of Toy Story 3 from original region A BD to BD-25 using BD-Rebuilder default settings.

Everything seems fine, but the movie freezes every time that there's a specific language scene and plays back again seconds after.

Did anybody went through this ? Is it a BD-Rebuilder bug ?

Sorry if I insist with this question, but it's making me mad...

cnote
3rd December 2010, 13:51
Overall progress reaches 100% but I run into a snag shortly after. Can anybody help me? Thank you in advance. This recently started. I am a newb, but have successfully backed up over 100 without a real issue. Thank you much! Oh and the only change that has been made to my machine has been attaching a new external hd. I highly doubt that has anything to do with this but you never know.
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[00:16:51] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[00:16:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:16:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [00:25:06] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- [00:25:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 74,921 frames
- Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
- [00:25:07] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:27:44] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:37:57] Video Encode complete
- [04:38:00] PredictAndEncode() 00075 2809
[07:27:25] - Aborted by user request
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[07:28:07] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:28:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:28:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:31:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:31:30] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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[07:41:12] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:41:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:41:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:41:15] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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[07:41:24] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:41:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:41:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:41:25] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[07:41:42] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: PACIFIC_DISC1
- Input BD size: 14.07 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:52:04.830]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[07:41:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:41:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00001.meta
- Can't open file: C:\USERS\BOSS\DESKTOP\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS.264
[07:41:43] - Failed to build structure, aborted

jdobbs
3rd December 2010, 15:32
I made a full backup of Toy Story 3 from original region A BD to BD-25 using BD-Rebuilder default settings.

Everything seems fine, but the movie freezes every time that there's a specific language scene and plays back again seconds after.

Did anybody went through this ? Is it a BD-Rebuilder bug ?

Sorry if I insist with this question, but it's making me mad... What are you using to play it? If it is a software player -- that is likely the issue.

I've done the U.S. version of "Toy Story 3" in both full and movie-only backups and it works correctly.

jdobbs
3rd December 2010, 15:42
Overall progress reaches 100% but I run into a snag shortly after. Can anybody help me? Thank you in advance. This recently started. I am a newb, but have successfully backed up over 100 without a real issue. Thank you much! Oh and the only change that has been made to my machine has been attaching a new external hd. I highly doubt that has anything to do with this but you never know.

...

The error you're getting now is because the encode was never actually completed. The encode died with a "00075 2809" error. That is a "Path not found" error. Either the path is bad or the drive was somehow unmounted. It sounds like your external drive's driver is flaky -- it certainly matches the error... I'd recommend you start over.

royboy1
3rd December 2010, 20:58
I had the same problem with the expendables. The commentaries are all mixed in with the movie files and I couldn't find a way to eliminate the commentary files. These stream files with the commentaries are numbered from 00420 to 00431 but if they are deleted from the recording then part of the movie is deleted also. I could not find any one file that contained the movie only---somebody said that files 0004 and 0006 contain the 2 versions of the movie only, but if that is the case, neither of those 2 files will open and they do not contain much data either. anybody have any ideas?

rilopes
3rd December 2010, 21:11
What are you using to play it? If it is a software player -- that is likely the issue.

I've done the U.S. version of "Toy Story 3" in both full and movie-only backups and it works correctly.

I'm trying to play it with software players ( PowerDVD, VLC, MediaPlayer-HC ) and with my BD player Samsung BD-P3600.

Did U.S. version have foreign language scenes ??

cnote
3rd December 2010, 23:39
Thanks a lot. I will be sending you another donation over the holiday season. This program is incredible.

jdobbs
3rd December 2010, 23:54
I had the same problem with the expendables. The commentaries are all mixed in with the movie files and I couldn't find a way to eliminate the commentary files. These stream files with the commentaries are numbered from 00420 to 00431 but if they are deleted from the recording then part of the movie is deleted also. I could not find any one file that contained the movie only---somebody said that files 0004 and 0006 contain the 2 versions of the movie only, but if that is the case, neither of those 2 files will open and they do not contain much data either. anybody have any ideas? You're confusing M2TS files with playlists. I've done that disc... you have to select a different playlist from the "Other movie-only playlist" menu in BD-RB. The longest one that gets picked by default isn't right. Pick the one that is the correct length for the movie (I think it's 103 minutes).

pididdi
4th December 2010, 13:11
hi there,
i´m using the latest version of bd-rebuilder to encode a multipart bd-movie (movie-only). everything worked fine (win7 x64, LAVF Decoding active, "degrainmedian" as avs-filter), but while i was watching the rebuildet AVCHD-Disc on my bd-player "philips bdp7500s2" the picture seemed to be instabil when one m2ts-part goes over to the next m2ts-part of the joined movie-stream. older bd-rb releases didn´t had this problem, i gues. i have tryed two differend movietitels with multipart-m2ts video... no change!
could it be that the LAVF decoding feature causes this problem?

sorry for my english, but i´m a little bit out of practice.

that´s all, thanks for comments!:thanks:

PS: the source video-codec was once avc/h264 and second vc-1

datman
4th December 2010, 14:46
Please don't misunderstand me, because I mean no ill-will. But why would you do that? X264 is a freak of a good encoder. I can understand backing up a main title to BD-9 or BD-5, but BD-25 can handle A LOT of video space. I'm talking hours and hours. If it were possible to burn AVCHD compliancy to BD-25, you could put 9-10hrs on it, and barely notice a difference. Unless you use a projector ;)

I guess if you're after a quicker encode, then I understand. Myself, I prefer an exact backup.

HD audio, no offense taken :)

jdobbs
4th December 2010, 15:44
hi there,
i´m using the latest version of bd-rebuilder to encode a multipart bd-movie (movie-only). everything worked fine (win7 x64, LAVF Decoding active, "degrainmedian" as avs-filter), but while i was watching the rebuildet AVCHD-Disc on my bd-player "philips bdp7500s2" the picture seemed to be instabil when one m2ts-part goes over to the next m2ts-part of the joined movie-stream. older bd-rb releases didn´t had this problem, i gues. i have tryed two differend movietitels with multipart-m2ts video... no change!
could it be that the LAVF decoding feature causes this problem?

sorry for my english, but i´m a little bit out of practice.

that´s all, thanks for comments!:thanks:

PS: the source video-codec was once avc/h264 and second vc-1 The problem is that you are using a filter. You shouldn't use filters on multi-part sources... the reason is that filters force the use of AVS (the LAVF switch is ignored). There is a problem in AVS files in which a frame or two is "lost" from the end -- causing DirectShowSource() to repeat in order to hit the correct framecount. I believe the issue is in HAALI, but I'm not positive. It's no big deal on most sources because repeating a frame from the end of a title isn't a big deal... but when you have a multipart source, it needs to be addressed.

To counter this problem, BD-RB always uses LAVF for multi-part sources (no matter how you have it set) -- unless, of course, you have forced it to use AVS by choosing a filter or resizing.

Bottom line: get rid of the filter and the problem will go away.

KeVe1983
4th December 2010, 16:02
Sry, but the Source isn't corrupted!
I have ripped the movie 2 times again with Fab and Any.
All play fine on my PC and my Dune HD.

So here are some pictures:

00004.m2ts is a part of the Main Movie and you can see that this1 is just 1pass encoded.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/4vpg9o9p.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2355/4vpg9o9p_jpg.htm)

And here you can see the comparsion between the original, 1pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras enabled) and the 2pass encode (quicker enc. f. extras disabled)
Left is the original, middle1 is the 1pass encode and the right1 is the 2pass encode with Quicker encode for Extras Option disabled

http://s3.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/nlpyo7ee.png (http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/2355/nlpyo7ee_png.htm)http://s13.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/dlehgfmu.png (http://s13.directupload.net/file/d/2355/dlehgfmu_png.htm)http://s7.directupload.net/images/101126/temp/d2ai69sd.png (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2355/d2ai69sd_png.htm)

Hi jdobbs,

same Problem again with Cop Out Bluray.
Main Movie has some m2ts Files, and some m2ts files from the main movie are 1pass encoded, because of "quicker encode for extras" is enabled. The part of the movie is very pixelated and unwatchable.

I think i should encode every Bluray with main movie in more than 1 m2ts file with "quicker encode for extras" disabled.

jdobbs
4th December 2010, 16:21
Hi jdobbs,

same Problem again with Cop Out Bluray.
Main Movie has some m2ts Files, and some m2ts files from the main movie are 1pass encoded, because of "quicker encode for extras" is enabled. The part of the movie is very pixelated and unwatchable.

I think i should encode every Bluray with main movie in more than 1 m2ts file with "quicker encode for extras" disabled. I will get "Cop Out" and give it a test to see if somehow it could use different encoding on different parts... but, frankly, I'm a little sceptical. If this were the case, you'd be missing parts when attempting to do a movie-only encode (it uses the same multipart list) -- and I'd have received a thousand bug reports on that by now.

Please send me the INI file that was used when you encountered a problem in "Cop Out". Also send me the INF file that resulted from the encode.

Also note that "Quick Encode" isn't the only time one-pass is used. It can be (correctly) selected as a result of "Automatic" settings, and applied to all parts of a multipart source. So the picture you provided doesn't mean anything to me. One-pass could very possibly be the correct method for that source.

But, as we all know, it's always possible there is something I'm missing... and if there is, I'll fix it.

KeVe1983
4th December 2010, 20:15
Hey jdobbs it's me again ^^

Edit: Get it to work if i select "Use X264's internal LAVF for encoding"

But maybe usefull for you?!

New problem!

Bluray:

VACANCY/Motel

Settings:

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.4
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=F:\
WORKING_PATH=E:\BLURAY\MOTEL BD 25\


VACANCY.INF:

[Status]
LABEL=VACANCY
VERSION=v0.36.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30316958574
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30253953024
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.812407239163167
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=96040106


BD-REBUILDER.LOG:

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[20:11:30] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: VACANCY
- Input BD size: 28,23 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:01:25.236]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:11:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:11:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [20:11:34] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 11)
- [20:11:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.440 frames
- [20:11:34] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[20:11:39] - Failed video encode, aborted

jdobbs
4th December 2010, 20:29
Can you post the file: "VID_00081.AVS"? If it runs with LAVF, it would make sense that it was something in the AVS file.

Also... do you have MPEG-2 decoding enabled in your FFDSHOW settings? That's the most likely problem.

1. Download and install FFDSHOW and the Haali Matroska Splitter. They are required for BD-RB to work and are free. After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".

KeVe1983
4th December 2010, 20:34
MPEG2 = libavcodec

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.36.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDMV\STREAM\00081.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=1440, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

jdobbs
4th December 2010, 21:18
MPEG2 = libavcodec

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.36.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDMV\STREAM\00081.m2ts", fps=23.976, framecount=1440, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001) Most likely then, some other software package that has been installed is intercepting and screwing up. Remove any players/codec packs etc...

jdobbs
4th December 2010, 21:31
Hi jdobbs,

same Problem again with Cop Out Bluray.
Main Movie has some m2ts Files, and some m2ts files from the main movie are 1pass encoded, because of "quicker encode for extras" is enabled. The part of the movie is very pixelated and unwatchable.

I think i should encode every Bluray with main movie in more than 1 m2ts file with "quicker encode for extras" disabled.
I will get "Cop Out" and give it a test to see if somehow it could use different encoding on different parts... but, frankly, I'm a little sceptical. If this were the case, you'd be missing parts when attempting to do a movie-only encode (it uses the same multipart list) -- and I'd have received a thousand bug reports on that by now.

Please send me the INI file that was used when you encountered a problem in "Cop Out". Also send me the INF file that resulted from the encode.

Also note that "Quick Encode" isn't the only time one-pass is used. It can be (correctly) selected as a result of "Automatic" settings, and applied to all parts of a multipart source. So the picture you provided doesn't mean anything to me. One-pass could very possibly be the correct method for that source.

But, as we all know, it's always possible there is something I'm missing... and if there is, I'll fix it. I just completed a full backup of "Cop Out" with Quick Encode selected -- and everything was encoded properly. I'll try switching settings around since you haven't provided the INI or INF... are there any special settings in use I should know about?

KeVe1983
5th December 2010, 15:02
Hi,

i've deleted the Disk and the Encode after encoding, so i cant show you the inf, or ini. Sry!

My Setting:

Full Backup
Quicker Encode for Extras
BD 25
High Quality (default) - 2pass
No reencode for Audio
LAV was disabled

The Encode runs fine, but the result was not good.
A part of the end of the movie was 1pass encoded.
It was very pixelated.

I get the Disc again today and tell you which m2zs file it was.

I had the same problems with Harry Potter 1 and 2.
The Extended ones.
So the extended parts of the movie where pixelated.

jdobbs
5th December 2010, 16:00
Hi,

i've deleted the Disk and the Encode after encoding, so i cant show you the inf, or ini. Sry!

My Setting:

Full Backup
Quicker Encode for Extras
BD 25
High Quality (default) - 2pass
No reencode for Audio
LAV was disabled

The Encode runs fine, but the result was not good.
A part of the end of the movie was 1pass encoded.
It was very pixelated.

I get the Disc again today and tell you which m2zs file it was.

I had the same problems with Harry Potter 1 and 2.
The Extended ones.
So the extended parts of the movie where pixelated. I tried it with every setting I could think of... and reviewed all the logs. Never did it use the "Quick Encode" for a part of the main feature.

I also went through the code, and could only find one place where something like that could happen. That would be if somehow the total amount of the audio/pgs information added to more than the output size allocated to the entire M2TS. In that instance, if the length of the video was less than 5 minutes, it will encode with a fixed CRF rather than abort with a "Destination too small" error. For that to happen should be almost impossible -- and I tried everything I could to make it happen -- and couldn't.

Sharc
5th December 2010, 17:16
In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields... :eek:

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

Added 2:
Ooops! I just noticed that I have a non-recommended (more recent) version of ffdshow installed. Could the field blending be related to this?

proper88
5th December 2010, 18:00
hi jdobbs,
your software is great but i am missing only one feature/option to detect Forced UT in specific language.
For example:
German, only forced UT
If the filme has no forced UT there are no further subtitles in the final image.
If the films has "Forced UT", only one "Forced UT" is in the final image.

Now i have read to the subtitles manually withBDSup2Sub to get the Forced UT.

Is this possbile ?

/proper88

JJB
5th December 2010, 19:15
In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields... :eek:

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

I don't think it is PAL related as I get it with NTSC builds on 3 different PC's.

jdobbs
5th December 2010, 22:24
In DVD-5 PAL alternate mode it appears that HCenc produces intermittently blended fields in the VIDxxxxx.avs.m2ts files (i.e. ghost pictures for the bottom and top field when separating fields).
The Blu-ray source is clean, progressive.
Not sure if I got this right, but I wouldn't have expected blended fields... :eek:

Added:
I also also sometimes get the HC ERROR "..source mismatch found in pass 2 starting at frame: 0,count 1 frames". Could this be related to the ghosting of some fields?

It's a multi-segment BD source.

Added 2:
Ooops! I just noticed that I have a non-recommended (more recent) version of ffdshow installed. Could the field blending be related to this? Hmmm... I can't imagine blended fields unless you have "Deinterlace with DECOMB" selected -- and that would only be applied to an interlaced source.

That HC error frame count error has been reported -- but right now I have no idea what is causing it.

setarip_old
5th December 2010, 22:35
@jdobbs

Hi!

I'm posting this request for an update only because you mentioned a timeframe in which you were going to check this out:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1458896&postcount=10244

It seems to be one of several variants on the same basic problem, namely, disappearing audio and subs for the main movie, when BDRB has made a full disc copy in Blu-ray format to a DVD9 ("BD9") and it is played on a SONY 360 (Plays properly under PowerDVD7.3). Similar but more extreme behavior recently noted with "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World".

When you get a chance, any additional insight will be appreciated ;>}

drmih
6th December 2010, 01:59
Isn't this a purely firmware issue as the discs are fine on other standalones and when I took the bd-9 contents and put them on a bd-25 the Sony plays them fine? I have also noticed that the Sonys get confused on branching titles (multi segment titles - typically ones with extended versions) where the sound suddenly vanishes and then returns at the next scene, whereas the discs are fine on other players.

Capsbackup
6th December 2010, 02:15
My experience has been any Blu-ray title with PiP, if a full backup is burned to BD5/9 media will have no audio heard nor selectable subtitles for the main feature. If this same backup is burned to BD-R/RE media, the main titles audio and subtitles work just as they are suppose to. I experience this with both my Sony BX1 and S360.
So whatever's the case, as long as BD-R/RE media is used, my PiP backups work perfectly. ( of course not DTS Express secondary audio ) :(

setarip_old
6th December 2010, 02:52
@drmih

Hi! Isn't this a purely firmware issueIf you're referring to my post #10387, I'll simply suggest to you that if things were that clear cut and certain, I'm quite sure that "jdobbs" would have stated that, rather than saying, as he did, "...I'll check it tomorrow..."

I would hope that if the stated purpose of BD-RB continues to include making viable full disc backups on DVD-9s, "jdobbs" will be able to resolve this issue - since not everybody doing the beta testing owns a Blu-ray burner and uses Blu-ray media...

Capsbackup
6th December 2010, 06:21
@setarip_old;
unfortunately there appears to be a limitation for certain types of full backups to DVD media, and I believe this is what you are up against. The Sony players are perhaps the most compatible players, but we have found where they have trouble.
It would be nice if jdobbs could find a cure for this, but I think even he has his doubts. Time will tell. I still do the majority of my backups to BD5/9, so I do understand. ;)
Besides, if the same backup works properly when burned on BD-R/RE media, it's hard to argue BD-RB even has a problem!
There is a work around for this if you are so determined, but it does not retain the PiP. The main features audio and subtitles will work properly, so you can still make full movie backups to DVD media where the original Blu-ray has PiP. :)

Sharc
6th December 2010, 08:04
Hmmm... I can't imagine blended fields unless you have "Deinterlace with DECOMB" selected -- and that would only be applied to an interlaced source.

That HC error frame count error has been reported -- but right now I have no idea what is causing it.

Field blending (fields with ghost picture):
I notice that you set *INTERLACED in HC.ini. Could it be the reason for the blended fields? The source is progressive.

From the HC manual:
*INTERLACED
parameter
Status not required
Default -
Example *INTERLACED
Use this command if your source is interlaced.If this command is used also the alternate scan method is set.

Frame count error:
I had this in previous versions as well, and Hank gave some explanation about it. IIRC it is not critical. I remember there are also some posts in the HCenc (0.24?) thread.

jdobbs
6th December 2010, 15:27
Field blending (fields with ghost picture):
I notice that you set *INTERLACED in HC.ini. Could it be the reason for the blended fields? The source is progressive.

From the HC manual:
*INTERLACED
parameter
Status not required
Default -
Example *INTERLACED
Use this command if your source is interlaced.If this command is used also the alternate scan method is set.

Frame count error:
I had this in previous versions as well, and Hank gave some explanation about it. IIRC it is not critical. I remember there are also some posts in the HCenc (0.24?) thread. In DVD all sources are "interlaced" by standard. Even if they are progressive they are considered interlaced -- there just happens to be no time difference between the two fields (which is what truly defines progressive). I could see how reencoding a true interlaced source as progressive might cause ghosting, but going the other way shouldn't. I'll take a look at it though.

Sharc
7th December 2010, 00:28
In DVD all sources are "interlaced" by standard. Even if they are progressive they are considered interlaced -- there just happens to be no time difference between the two fields (which is what truly defines progressive). I could see how reencoding a true interlaced source as progressive might cause ghosting, but going the other way shouldn't. I'll take a look at it though.
Here my latest findings:
The source is VC-1. The ghosted pictures are already present when watching the .avs script in a player. So the ghosting has definitely nothing to do with HCenc. I tried your recommended as well as the most recent version of ffdshow set to wmv-9, it's all the same.
When I do the decoding with neuron2's DGdecNV everything is clean - no ghosts.
Is it possibly a problem of the ffdshow/wmv-9 decoder?

jdobbs
7th December 2010, 01:38
Here my latest findings:
The source is VC-1. The ghosted pictures are already present when watching the .avs script in a player. So the ghosting has definitely nothing to do with HCenc. I tried your recommended as well as the most recent version of ffdshow set to wmv-9, it's all the same.
When I do the decoding with neuron2's DGdecNV everything is clean - no ghosts.
Is it possibly a problem of the ffdshow/wmv-9 decoder? That's all it could be... but I've never seen anything like that.

Adbear
7th December 2010, 08:36
I'm also having issues with interlaced VC-1. I've just encoded the 6 disc boxset of Dr Who season 5 down to BD-R 25 and they all have ghosting/jerky images on fast movement and especially on the closing credits. I tried with and without decomb just to make sure. Original ripped discs play fine

The_Unknown
7th December 2010, 10:37
Hello jdobbs,

at first: the BD-RB works great for me. But one bug there is inside. When I check some languages in the setup-dialog the program doesn't seem to notice that. I checked English and German and the program only selects the English track, not the German one. This happens with every disc I inserted.

Also I would like to ask for one feature: Could you please make it possible not only to check the languages to keep but also keep English when no other language is available (for example in the extras there's in most cases only English). That's because checking only a language which isn't English can result in not having any audio track in the extras.

So now I have to check every single video track for the right languages which can be quiet annoying ;)

Kampfwurstwasser
7th December 2010, 11:55
Did you select German (Ger) and German (Deu) in the setup?

The_Unknown
7th December 2010, 12:02
I attached the settings. I couldn't find German (deu).

Adbear
7th December 2010, 12:25
German (deu) is under in the 'D' section not under 'G'

The_Unknown
7th December 2010, 12:36
Ah, I see. Now it checks the German language. But when I select only German to keep I still have no English track in the extras although it's the only language there :( Would it be possible to change that?

And would it also be possible to make the main window resizeable?

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 14:57
I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to a new version of BD-RB (v0.36.06). Changes for this release:- - Corrected an error in which the .CHP files used
with IVTC were not corrected to match the new
framerate.
- Corrected an issue in which hybrid sources under
certain circumstances in conjunction with the
IVTC could cause incorrect framerate calculations.
- Added a SETUP option for converting SD sources to
1080. This can be useful in creating high quality
backups of DVD to Blu-Ray or AVCHD.
- Added a SETUP option for converting 4:3 sources to
16:9. Caution: This option will clip the top and
bottom of images in order to make the conversion,
designed primarily for letterboxed 4:3 sources.
- Moved placement of filters in the AVS file so they
occur before any BD-RB embedded deinterlacing,
inverse telecining, or resizing.
- Changed the default deinterlacing mode for DECOMB
to blend=false. Blending can be enabled by setting
DEINTERLACE=2 in the config (INI) file.
- Corrected an error in which a source may incorrectly
be kept intact even though "USE_FILTERS" was set.
- Updated the X264 command line so that the "--ref"
parameter is set to the maximum for the specified
output size. 1080 will use "--ref 4", while others
(480, 576, and 720) will use "--ref 6". To disable
and always use "--ref 4", use the hidden setting
MAXIMIZE_REFS=0. [Update: v0.36.6] This feature
only applies to "Highest Quality" mode in order to
prevent slowdown in other modes. Also, the "--ref"
parameter has been removed from the tweak restricted
list.
- Modified the hidden option "WEIGHTP" so that "1" is
now the default (ON), adding "--weightp 1" to the
X264 command line. Setting it to "WEIGHTP=0" will
result in "--weightp 0".
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1820).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r1820).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 15:49
Ah, I see. Now it checks the German language. But when I select only German to keep I still have no English track in the extras although it's the only language there :( Would it be possible to change that?

And would it also be possible to make the main window resizeable? I'll look at keeping it when it is the only language... for now it's probably best to keep both German and English. If you click on the "Limit to One Track" box, you can ensure only one track is kept (there are often several English tracks).

Dark Shikari
8th December 2010, 15:50
- Updated the X264 command line so that the "--ref"
parameter is set to the maximum for the specified
output size. 1080 will use "--ref 4", while others
(480, 576, and 720) will use "--ref 6". To disable
and always use "--ref 4", use the hidden setting
MAXIMIZE_REFS=0.
Why? Surely in the fast modes you'd not want to use any more than the defaults for the given preset? This will make BD-RB vastly slower on fast modes.

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 15:53
Ughhh... guess I didn't give that enough thought. I'll change it for the next release. I'm sure I'll get some "it's running slower" reports...

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 16:22
Why? Surely in the fast modes you'd not want to use any more than the defaults for the given preset? This will make BD-RB vastly slower on fast modes. I've changed it so that it only applies to the "Highest Quality" mode and updated the link in the first post. I don't think I want to go through the "Why is it taking so long" reports.

Thanks for catching that.

Note to All: I've updated to the first post to include a link to BD Rebuilder v0.36.06. This update makes a correction to prevent faster modes from being slowed by the "--refs" update.

chompy
8th December 2010, 20:58
- Modified the hidden option "WEIGHTP" so that "1" is
now the default (ON), adding "--weightp 1" to the
X264 command line. Setting it to "WEIGHTP=0" will
result in "--weightp 0".
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But now, we've lost the option to have --weightp 2. Could you please also modify the hidden option "WEIGHTP" to also accept 2?

Greetings

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 21:02
But now, we've lost the option to have --weightp 2. Could you please also modify the hidden option "WEIGHTP" to also accept 2?

Greetings No. That can cause problems and shouldn't be used for Blu-ray backups.

chompy
8th December 2010, 21:14
No. That can cause problems and shouldn't be used for Blu-ray backups.

That option is fully bluray spec compliant, and the only problem was due to certain chipset bad firmwares and it was solved long ago with firmware upgrades.

(By the way, It has being used in your previous releases and it hasn't caused any problem).

Greetings

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 21:20
That option is fully bluray spec compliant, and the only problem was due to certain chipset bad firmwares and it was solved long ago with firmware upgrades.

(By the way, It has being used in your previous releases and it hasn't caused any problem).

Greetings

But not solved everywhere -- and I'm avoiding having to spend hour-after-hour explaining that to people... sorry, but the minimal advantage isn't worth the headaches. By the way you said "we've lost that option" -- it never was there. If you had set "WEIGHTP=2" in the past you were actually encoding with "--weightp 0" (the default).

chompy
8th December 2010, 21:50
But not solved everywhere -- and I'm avoiding having to spend hour-after-hour explaining that to people... sorry, but the minimal advantage isn't worth the headaches. By the way you said "we've lost that option" -- it never was there. If you had set "WEIGHTP=2" in the past you were actually encoding with "--weightp 0" (the default).

But when "WEIGHTTP=1" was set, the encoding was done with "--weightp 2" (x264 default). And if you had that option hidden for long time and don't see why I would remove it (if followed this post from long time ago, and I don't remember any problem due to it).

Dark Shikari
8th December 2010, 22:08
No. That can cause problems and shouldn't be used for Blu-ray backups.It only causes problems on a single chipset, and only if you didn't update the firmware.

On the other hand, it's not very useful compression-wise, so it's perfectly fine to just dump the WEIGHTP hidden option entirely.

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 22:32
It only causes problems on a single chipset, and only if you didn't update the firmware.

On the other hand, it's not very useful compression-wise, so it's perfectly fine to just dump the WEIGHTP hidden option entirely. I'll just modify it where you can set it in the hidden option. Then if people set it to "2" -- they're responsible for any problems themselves. The default value will remain "1".

Sharc
8th December 2010, 23:37
That's all it could be... but I've never seen anything like that.
Eventually I found the solution:
The ghosting disappears when I replace in the script
ConvertFPS(......) by AssumeFPS(....).

jdobbs
8th December 2010, 23:48
Eventually I found the solution:
The ghosting disappears when I replace in the script
ConvertFPS(......) by AssumeFPS(....). You may have problems if you do that. If "ConvertFPS" is there it means you probably have a hybrid or pulldown source -- and if you use AssumeFPS you could get audio sync problems.

I'll go back and check when-and-how that is inserted to be sure.

[Edit] Actually there are two possible "convertfps" possibilities. One is related to hybrid/pulldown sources, the other may not be.

1. Are you talking about the one that is a parameter in the "DirectShowSource" statement or the one that is an AVISYNTH command?

2. Is the problem occuring while attempting ALTERNATE output? If so -- which profile?

xtremevideoinc117
8th December 2010, 23:57
having problems with SALT Blu Ray using newest version. theres no audio selected and when i select it, it still doesnt get it. using Anydvd to read it then i load it with BD-rebuilder and burn it with IMGburn

cyberdoggy
8th December 2010, 23:59
- Added a SETUP option for converting SD sources to
1080. This can be useful in creating high quality
backups of DVD to Blu-Ray or AVCHD.


How do you load a Standard DVD, it seems you can only load a BD Structure disk?

Sharc
9th December 2010, 00:05
You may have problems if you do that. If "ConvertFPS" is there it means you probably have a hybrid or pulldown source -- and if you use AssumeFPS you could get audio sync problems.

I'll go back and check when-and-how that is inserted to be sure.

[Edit] Actually there are two possible "convertFPS" possibilities. Are you talking about the one that is a parameter in the "DirectShowSource" statement or the one that is an AVISYNTH command?
The one in the avisynth command.
Actually the conversion is from original blu-ray 23.976fps progressive to 25fps (PAL-DVD, Alternate output profile DVD-5 plus 'Assume PAL for DVD Output' in DB-RB setup).
And yes, AssumeFPS(25) results in the typical "PAL speedup", means the audio needs to be adjusted as well accordingly.
The advantage is that AssumeFPS() does not manipulate the original frames (insert, blend, or whatever).

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 00:06
How do you load a Standard DVD, it seems you can only load a BD Structure disk? I convert it with multiAVCHD first.

Priapismic
9th December 2010, 01:00
having problems with SALT Blu Ray using newest version. theres no audio selected and when i select it, it still doesnt get it. using Anydvd to read it then i load it with BD-rebuilder and burn it with IMGburn
Do you have an audio setup in BDRB that excludes the only source on the disc? Are you having BDRB convert to a output your system can decode?
Download Meidainfo and make sure the audio track is in there.

xtremevideoinc117
9th December 2010, 01:59
Do you have an audio setup in BDRB that excludes the only source on the disc? Are you having BDRB convert to a output your system can decode?
Download Meidainfo and make sure the audio track is in there.

no audio that excludes it.i'm redoing it, this time I went to each individual file and selected (AUD-002 DTS-HD XXL Multi-ch). how can i post the log file?

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 02:16
no audio that excludes it.i'm redoing it, this time I went to each individual file and selected (AUD-002 DTS-HD XXL Multi-ch). how can i post the log file? If it isn't being selected then it either isn't set for selection from the SETUP menu -- or it is an undefined audio language. The only time I've ever seen that happen is on a preprocessed source.

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 02:20
The one in the avisynth command.
Actually the conversion is from original blu-ray 23.976fps progressive to 25fps (PAL-DVD, Alternate output profile DVD-5 plus 'Assume PAL for DVD Output' in DB-RB setup).
And yes, AssumeFPS(25) results in the typical "PAL speedup", means the audio needs to be adjusted as well accordingly.
The advantage is that AssumeFPS() does not manipulate the original frames (insert, blend, or whatever). So how would I make it better? Squeeze the audio? That sounds like I'd get even more complaints.

Video Dude
9th December 2010, 04:05
So how would I make it better? Squeeze the audio? That sounds like I'd get even more complaints.
You can do the Don Graft method (DGPulldown) and adjust the pulldown flags. For conversion to PAL, encode 720x576, 23.976fps. Then flag it to 25fps. No adjustment to audio needed.

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 04:09
You can do the Don Graft method (DGPulldown) and adjust the pulldown flags. For conversion to PAL, encode 720x576, 23.976fps. Then flag it to 25fps. No adjustment to audio needed. If you do it with pulldown you're going to get distortion similar to the ghosting you'd get with ConvertFPS() (something equivalent anyway from doing the repeated fields for frame insertion) so it really doesn't improve much. But I can do that easy enough with "--pulldown euro". I'll do some testing and see which looks better. The other thing I can do is use AssumeFPS(25) and use AVISYNTH's TimeStretch() to adjust the audio -- I just hate to distort both the video and the audio.

The truth is there really is no good way to do it. Everything leaves you disappointed to one degree or another.

cnote
9th December 2010, 04:40
I'm going to use an example because I am having trouble trying to figure out how to word this correctly... The "Pacific" has 2 episodes on each disc. Is it possible to back up both episodes in "Movie-Only" mode? Is there a way to select both episodes in the "Other Movie-Only Playlist"? I use DVD-9's and my player has had trouble playing full back-ups on the dual layer dvd's. I have tried backing up each separately with a custom target size of about 3.8G. But I haven't had any success when I go to burn or playback those discs. Excuse me for making this more complicated than it is. Thanks for the help.

setarip_old
9th December 2010, 05:05
@ xtremevideoinc117

If you're in the US or Canada, there could be a problem with your source material at this date...

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 06:07
I'm going to use an example because I am having trouble trying to figure out how to word this correctly... The "Pacific" has 2 episodes on each disc. Is it possible to back up both episodes in "Movie-Only" mode? Is there a way to select both episodes in the "Other Movie-Only Playlist"? I use DVD-9's and my player has had trouble playing full back-ups on the dual layer dvd's. I have tried backing up each separately with a custom target size of about 3.8G. But I haven't had any success when I go to burn or playback those discs. Excuse me for making this more complicated than it is. Thanks for the help. There isn't an inherent way within BD-RB today. I plan to eventually add a capability that will do what you're asking -- it's just not going to be for a while. But... today if you ran it through multiAVCHD first (not in reauthoring mode), keeping both episodes, and then do a BD Rebuilder full backup against the result -- you will get output that is DVD-9 (AVCHD) compliant and it will do what you're asking.

Sharc
9th December 2010, 08:06
So how would I make it better? Squeeze the audio? That sounds like I'd get even more complaints.
For commercial PAL DVD it is common practice that 24 fps film originals are just speed up including audio by 4% to 25 fps. This often means (for simple audio conversion) that the audio pitch is also slightly shifted up - to most people this is unnoticeable. I personally prefer the speed up procedure over blending or pulldown judder.
Up to now I did the audio speed up manually with eac3to, and sync is perfect, but I would assume there are similar means for resampling the audio using other audio converters.
I haven't tried the audio speed adaptation parameter in AssumeFPS(25,1,true).
(Sups would have to be be re-stamped as well if one should want to keep sups. I do this with BDSup2Sub)

omegaman7
9th December 2010, 09:57
anybody have any trouble with "Shrek, The Final Chapter"? My encoding and what not seemed to be fine. Just watched it. But only one of my media players plays it properly. And the one that does play it, I have to load the single M2TS file for the audio to play properly. When I load the BD folder in to TMT 3, all is well til I play the main title. In which it sounds like it's playing 2 audio tracks simultaneously. The directors commentary, and the main track. Any thoughts on this?

I hate to burn it, only to find out the living room player exhibits the same problem ;) I have a BD-RE arriving Friday thank goodness!

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 16:07
For commercial PAL DVD it is common practice that 24 fps film originals are just speed up including audio by 4% to 25 fps. This often means (for simple audio conversion) that the audio pitch is also slightly shifted up - to most people this is unnoticeable. I personally prefer the speed up procedure over blending or pulldown judder.
Up to now I did the audio speed up manually with eac3to, and sync is perfect, but I would assume there are similar means for resampling the audio using other audio converters.
I haven't tried the audio speed adaptation parameter in AssumeFPS(25,1,true).
(Sups would have to be be re-stamped as well if one should want to keep sups. I do this with BDSup2Sub) There's actually a separate audio function built into AVISYNTH that will speed-up the audio without changing the pitch.

Sharc
9th December 2010, 19:41
There's actually a separate audio function built into AVISYNTH that will speed-up the audio without changing the pitch.
So you are positive that the speedup - even without changing the pitch - can be applied when extracting the audio from the original disc and converting it to ac3?

jdobbs
9th December 2010, 20:06
So you are positive that the speedup - even without changing the pitch - can be applied when extracting the audio from the original disc and converting it to ac3? I'm assuming the filter works correctly. The AVISYNTH page even has an example for converting audio from FILM to PAL. It has a "TEMPO" parameter designed for changing length without affecting pitch. I'll have to dig up some PAL video and run some tests.

omegaman7
9th December 2010, 23:59
anybody have any trouble with "Shrek, The Final Chapter"? My encoding and what not seemed to be fine. Just watched it. But only one of my media players plays it properly. And the one that does play it, I have to load the single M2TS file for the audio to play properly. When I load the BD folder in to TMT 3, all is well til I play the main title. In which it sounds like it's playing 2 audio tracks simultaneously. The directors commentary, and the main track. Any thoughts on this?

I hate to burn it, only to find out the living room player exhibits the same problem ;) I have a BD-RE arriving Friday thank goodness!
I apologize for the previous premature post. I should have done at least a little more testing. I have now. TMT 3 remains unchanged. It plays BD rebuilders processed files the same(Unprocessed/original plays fine). Strange audio overlay in the main title.
I have burned the BD-R anyway. Powerdvd10, and my living room BD player (BD-P1590) however do not exhibit the problem.
It does however raise the question. Are all standalone players gonna be ok with this? If you're as curious about the problem as I am, which components would you like me to post? The forum doesn't like me to post anything over 16,000 characters(I think that's the exact figure).

Capsbackup
10th December 2010, 02:50
@omegaman7;
If the title has PiP, then I have experienced what you describe, but only when playing back with TMT3. Every title I have backed up to BD-R/RE with PiP and DD Plus secondary audio has worked properly on my Sony S360 and BX1, as well as PowerDVD 7. I have not had any luck with TMT3 when playing back a full backup that BD-RB retains the PiP.
This is why it is important to confirm full backups play properly on standalones, and not just software players.

omegaman7
10th December 2010, 06:59
@omegaman7;
If the title has PiP, then I have experienced what you describe, but only when playing back with TMT3. Every title I have backed up to BD-R/RE with PiP and DD Plus secondary audio has worked properly on my Sony S360 and BX1, as well as PowerDVD 7. I have not had any luck with TMT3 when playing back a full backup that BD-RB retains the PiP.
This is why it is important to confirm full backups play properly on standalones, and not just software players.

Thanks for the info. That makes perfect sense. I haven't experienced this PiP as you have until now. I'll have to keep an eye out for it LOL! :thanks:

Why does the altered output have the problem though? The original plays fine.

jdobbs
10th December 2010, 15:01
Thanks for the info. That makes perfect sense. I haven't experienced this PiP as you have until now. I'll have to keep an eye out for it LOL! :thanks:

Why does the altered output have the problem though? The original plays fine. It's possible that the remapping of the audio PID is the issue. Normally PIDs for PiP audio should fall within 0x1A00-0x1A1F. But TSMUXER doesn't support that, so BD-RB remaps all the references in MPLS to match TSMUXER's assignment.

In my effort to make DTS Express work (also not supported by TSMUXER), I'm remuxing the secondary audio myself (separate from TSMUXER). I'll probably also do other PiP audio just so it is done correctly.

stonej01
10th December 2010, 15:44
Cannot get Inception to convert keeps failing. Ripped two separate times, one with a straight Anydvd rip then the other with a Dvdfab and anydvd combo.

Log:
-----------------------
[09:30:11] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: INCEPTION_-_COMBO
- Input BD size: 31.83 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:36:02.311]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[09:30:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:30:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [09:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 5)
- [09:30:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,880 frames
- [09:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[09:34:43] - Failed video encode, aborted



INF File
[Status]
LABEL=INCEPTION_-_COMBO
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34181229902
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=34067576832
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.718438362983597
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00004]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=92775245

jdobbs
10th December 2010, 17:08
Remove any other "Codec Packs" you may have installed. It appears somthing has taken over VC-1 decoding and it isn't working. Try uninstalling HAALI and FFDSHOW -- and reinstalling again.

stonej01
10th December 2010, 18:30
Didnt have any other packs installed, must have been one of the other programs i installed over the last week,... but your solution did work, a quick reinstall and the conversion seems to be progressing nicely. How could you tell?

jdobbs
10th December 2010, 20:53
Didnt have any other packs installed, must have been one of the other programs i installed over the last week,... but your solution did work, a quick reinstall and the conversion seems to be progressing nicely. How could you tell? If all the settings are correct and it isn't working -- something has to be overriding the settings. With a lot of these installs it comes down to "the latest is the greatest" and whichever software was installed last takes control -- so reinstalling the "good" packages usually fixes it.

Kerry56
11th December 2010, 06:25
I'm trying to help someone with a problem in BD Rebuilder. Against my advice he was using DVDFab Blu ray Passkey in the background to break encryption and was working straight from the disk.

Here is his log file: 22:52:47] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 20.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:46:48.819]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:52:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:52:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [22:52:53] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 4)
- [22:52:53] Collecting video information
- [22:52:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:52:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:52:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:52:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [22:53:02] Reencoding: VID_00003 (2 of 4)
- [22:53:02] Collecting video information
- [22:53:02] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:53:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:53:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:53:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [22:53:27] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 4)
- [22:53:27] Collecting video information
- [22:53:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [22:53:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:53:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:53:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:17:19] Reencoding: VID_00000 (4 of 4)
- [23:17:19] Collecting video information
- [23:17:19] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [23:17:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:17:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
- SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[23:18:29] - Failed to build structure, aborted

He is using Win7, and everything checks out ok when using the Inspect.exe file. Simple case of not ripping to the hard drive first, or is this another problem?

jdobbs
11th December 2010, 14:12
Something appears to be corrupted. Nothing is being reencoded, but when TSMUXER attempts to remux all the extracted components of VID_00000, it is failing. The good news is that for this disc you really don't have to use BD Rebuilder -- if you look at the input and output sizes it will fit on a BD-25 as-is. Just copy it to your hard drive and write it with IMGBURN.

Cupidjones
11th December 2010, 17:58
I have tried multiply times to backup this disc to no avail. 4th disc of the original Twlight Zone Season 1. All others no issues. Thought I had a bad rip so tried it again, same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[10:54:54] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: TZ_4
- Input BD size: 34.05 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:28:28.370]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:54:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:54:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [10:54:59] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 10)
- [10:54:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 722 frames
- Bitrate: 16,896 Kbs
- [10:54:59] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:55:28] Video Encode complete
- [10:55:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:55:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:55:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [10:55:35] Reencoding: VID_00019 (2 of 10)
- [10:55:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 722 frames
- Bitrate: 16,897 Kbs
- [10:55:35] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:56:03] Video Encode complete
- [10:56:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:56:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:56:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (65504 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[10:56:09] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

HWK
11th December 2010, 19:13
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (65504 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[10:56:09] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Which program did you use to rip disc. Also post Bd-Rebuilder configuartion setting file.

drmih
11th December 2010, 23:19
Got a bug on Salt - just encoded it to bd-9 without any problems. The disc is a multi m2ts disc with three versions of the film. I'm just watching the copy for Extended unrated cut and after about 30 mins the quality becomes nearly unwatchable - heavy blocking and nowhere near enough bitrate. At about 38 mins the films returns to perfect quality. Problem keeps occurring on certain scenes.

**Just for clarification, the scenes in question are in all three branching versions (00122 and 00123 if anyone wants to check their copies - the chase sequence from about 32 minutes onwards).

KeVe1983
12th December 2010, 01:03
Yeah thats a problem i had a few times now!

But in your case i dont understand why
BD9 is movie only, or not?

I have the same problems sometimes with my BD25 encodes.
If the Movie has more than 1 m2ts file, BD_RB encodes some parts as extras. So i've selected "Quicker encodes for extras" and so the Quality at some movie Parts is terrible and very blocking.

So if i see that the main movie has more than 1 m2ts file, i deselect "Quicker encodes for extras" and all seems fine.

My Disks with this Problems:

Wall-E -Encoded today with "Quicker encodes for extras" and some movie parts have heavy blocking. New encode with "Quicker encodes for extras" disabled = Encode is fine and i have no blocking

Inception
Salt
Knight and Day
Cop Out

drmih
12th December 2010, 01:15
My copy was full disc but not 'Quicker for extras' - highest quality possible. I have identified one or two m2ts files where the bitrate drops to around 0.5MBPS compared to the files either side in the playlist of about 2.0 MBPS

KeVe1983
12th December 2010, 01:42
Can u tell me the timestamp in the movie where this happens to you?
I've burned the disc already and will have a look.

Maybe "Quicker encodes for extras" is forced if u set the output to BD9, like HD-Audio encoding is forced if you select BD9 output.

drmih
12th December 2010, 14:03
Can u tell me the timestamp in the movie where this happens to you?
I've burned the disc already and will have a look.

Maybe "Quicker encodes for extras" is forced if u set the output to BD9, like HD-Audio encoding is forced if you select BD9 output.

It's from about 32 to 38 minutes.

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 15:29
Got a bug on Salt - just encoded it to bd-9 without any problems. The disc is a multi m2ts disc with three versions of the film. I'm just watching the copy for Extended unrated cut and after about 30 mins the quality becomes nearly unwatchable - heavy blocking and nowhere near enough bitrate. At about 38 mins the films returns to perfect quality. Problem keeps occurring on certain scenes.

**Just for clarification, the scenes in question are in all three branching versions (00122 and 00123 if anyone wants to check their copies - the chase sequence from about 32 minutes onwards). That film doesn't come out here in the US until Tues, Dec 14th. I'll test it then. Can you post your BDREBUILDER.INI contents so I can try to reencode with the same settings as you and see if I can repeat it?

Also, can you post the INF file and LOG for your encode? I'm fumbling in the dark when I don't have any logs to work with.

drmih
12th December 2010, 17:33
That film doesn't come out here in the US until Tues, Dec 14th. I'll test it then. Can you post your BDREBUILDER.INI contents so I can try to reencode with the same settings as you and see if I can repeat it?

Also, can you post the INF file and LOG for your encode? I'm fumbling in the dark when I don't have any logs to work with.

It doesn't come out here until tomorrow but it just arrived yesterday. Unfortunately I deleted the rip on the HDD when everything seemed fine so I never checked the original in case there was a ripping error which caused the problem. However, here's the INF, which is the only file left as I've done another disc in the same directory today. The main problem M2TS is 00122.

[Status]
LABEL=SALT
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=48025667448
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=47943561216
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.17395570934803
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=72
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4377739
RATE=1559
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27648000
NSIZE=4386816
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=28843271
RATE=2207
NSIZE=29097984
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00011]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=52094664
RATE=1652
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30273120
NSIZE=52752384
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=61989
RATE=211
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27044640
NSIZE=43008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=182762
RATE=203
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27135360
NSIZE=122880
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=20564471
RATE=2547
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29700823
NSIZE=19279872
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00101]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=21883350
RATE=3647
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28899360
NSIZE=21510144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00104]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=22061837
RATE=3678
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28899360
NSIZE=21694464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00105]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=103835560
RATE=1313
NSTART=27000000
NEND=48844800
NSIZE=105320448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00106]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=161165127
RATE=1314
NSTART=27000000
NEND=60899040
NSIZE=163282944
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00107]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=69840751
RATE=1315
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41695200
NSIZE=70993920
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00108]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=118957783
RATE=1313
NSTART=27000000
NEND=52018560
NSIZE=120637440
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00109]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=93274907
RATE=1305
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46569600
NSIZE=94476288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00110]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=382251623
RATE=1316
NSTART=27000000
NEND=107455680
NSIZE=387317760
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00111]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=386715933
RATE=1475
NSTART=27000000
NEND=100467360
NSIZE=389683200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00113]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=24755172
RATE=2123
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28491840
NSIZE=24440832
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00114]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=463923812
RATE=1647
NSTART=27000000
NEND=55565760
NSIZE=466544640
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00115]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=50838843
RATE=1161
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30199680
NSIZE=51025920
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00116]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=194755936
RATE=1295
NSTART=27000000
NEND=40083360
NSIZE=196614144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00117]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=14242614
RATE=1693
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27930720
NSIZE=14573568
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00118]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=368294374
RATE=1713
NSTART=27000000
NEND=49358880
NSIZE=370120704
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00119]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=14037407
RATE=984
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27861120
NSIZE=14309376
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00120]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=107555997
RATE=1452
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33642240
NSIZE=108085248
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00121]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=45161463
RATE=1347
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29739840
NSIZE=45594624
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00122]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=286164746
RATE=455
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46168320
NSIZE=290555904
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00123]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=19263761
RATE=1718
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28259040
NSIZE=19433472
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00124]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=155453546
RATE=1744
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36513600
NSIZE=156241920
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00125]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=51599817
RATE=1621
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30244800
NSIZE=52162560
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00126]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=315775403
RATE=996
NSTART=27000000
NEND=48555840
NSIZE=318547968
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00127]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=87941675
RATE=1083
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32296320
NSIZE=88719360
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00128]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=82976105
RATE=887
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31902240
NSIZE=83798016
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00129]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=78960684
RATE=1615
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31859040
NSIZE=79417344
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=118174365
RATE=1429
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34154400
NSIZE=118917120
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00131]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=192785098
RATE=1727
NSTART=27000000
NEND=39563520
NSIZE=194052096
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00132]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=181788381
RATE=1635
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38488320
NSIZE=182943744
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00133]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=28681884
RATE=1934
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28790400
NSIZE=28182528
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00134]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=302292695
RATE=1765
NSTART=27000000
NEND=45571200
NSIZE=303833088
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00135]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=55088327
RATE=1749
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30560160
NSIZE=55246848
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00136]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=120659287
RATE=1774
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34738080
NSIZE=121368576
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00137]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=59994045
RATE=1672
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30931680
NSIZE=60463104
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00138]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=86650584
RATE=1882
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32224800
NSIZE=87281664
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00139]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=651935721
RATE=1090
NSTART=27000000
NEND=72024000
NSIZE=657733632
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00140]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=31415833
RATE=3652
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29723040
NSIZE=30935040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00143]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=38159860
RATE=1989
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29359200
NSIZE=38135808
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00144]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=56041683
RATE=1433
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30648480
NSIZE=56150016
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00145]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=23259944
RATE=1647
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28536960
NSIZE=23629824
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00146]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=13963661
RATE=1671
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27921120
NSIZE=14260224
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00147]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=74302924
RATE=1724
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31819680
NSIZE=74526720
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00148]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=26441713
RATE=2020
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28632480
NSIZE=26677248
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00149]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=68926941
RATE=1731
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31457280
NSIZE=69537792
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00150]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=119405604
RATE=1758
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34689120
NSIZE=119881728
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00151]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=74714406
RATE=1769
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31808160
NSIZE=75122688
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00152]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=228746470
RATE=1739
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41872320
NSIZE=230160384
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00153]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=141716467
RATE=1689
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36296160
NSIZE=142706688
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00154]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=29674784
RATE=1941
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28850400
NSIZE=29190144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00155]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=53735247
RATE=1722
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30490560
NSIZE=53895168
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00156]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=55026338
RATE=1757
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30551040
NSIZE=55191552
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00157]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=59961982
RATE=1670
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30931680
NSIZE=60426240
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00158]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=32934575
RATE=1717
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29141280
NSIZE=33232896
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00159]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=655443470
RATE=1201
NSTART=27000000
NEND=72731520
NSIZE=660897792
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00160]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=663181465
RATE=1524
NSTART=27000000
NEND=71943360
NSIZE=667109376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00162]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=26287808
RATE=2939
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29793600
NSIZE=26413056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00163]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=55142835
RATE=2285
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33189120
NSIZE=54325248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00164]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=60205665
RATE=2469
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33363360
NSIZE=59357184
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00165]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6345370
RATE=2737
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27720000
NSIZE=6672384
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00166]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=13314910
RATE=2879
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28442880
NSIZE=13375488
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00167]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=42205207
RATE=2469
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31461120
NSIZE=41527296
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00168]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6746164
RATE=2739
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27764640
NSIZE=6844416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00169]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=6919307
RATE=2815
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27764640
NSIZE=7176192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00170]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=32895030
RATE=2395
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30559680
NSIZE=32415744
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00205]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=2060615
RATE=3062
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27223348
NSIZE=2009088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[04999]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=15016413
RATE=3719
NSIZE=14757888
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1


This is the INI file for the next disc but I didn't change any settings.


[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=1
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=11000
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
VERSION=0.36.0.6
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD-FILES\

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 17:47
[00122]
AUDIO=01110011111
PGS=100000000000
M2TS_TARGET=286164746
RATE=455
NSTART=27000000
NEND=46168320
NSIZE=290555904
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
Wow. You only have "English" selected -- but there are 8 of 11 audio tracks kept? That's unusual -- and probably the source of the issue. This appears to be a fairly small target -- but with all the audio tracks there is only 455Kbs left for the video.

I look forward to testing this one on Tuesday.

drmih
12th December 2010, 17:54
Wow. You only have "English" selected -- but there are 8 of 11 audio tracks kept? That's unusual -- and probably the source of the issue. This appears to be a fairly small target -- but with all the audio tracks there is only 455Kbs left for the video (17% of the file's original size).

I look forward to testing this one on Tuesday.

But the same applies to every chapter / part of the movie and they are okay and typically 3 to 4 time the bitrate. I would normally have ditched some of the audio tracks but with the movie made up by over 100 or so files, and wanting to keep the director's commentary, I just decided to keep everything. I have now found the log and here's the relevant bit:


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[00:18:26] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: SALT
- Input BD size: 44.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:34:45.001]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[00:18:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:18:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [00:18:29] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 72)
- [00:18:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 346 frames
- Bitrate: 1,559 Kbs
- [00:18:29] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:18:36] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:18:47] Video Encode complete
- [00:18:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:18:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:18:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [00:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 72)
- [00:18:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,326 frames
- Bitrate: 2,207 Kbs
............................................
- [04:37:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [04:37:19] Reencoding: VID_00121 (24 of 72)
- [04:37:19] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:37:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,460 frames
- Bitrate: 1,347 Kbs
- [04:37:24] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:38:22] Reencoding: VID_00121, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:39:41] Video Encode complete
- [04:39:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:39:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:39:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [04:41:09] Reencoding: VID_00122 (25 of 72)
- [04:41:09] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:41:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,213 frames
- Bitrate: 455 Kbs
- [04:41:41] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:47:17] Reencoding: VID_00122, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:54:54] Video Encode complete
- [04:54:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:54:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:55:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [04:55:09] Reencoding: VID_00123 (26 of 72)
- [04:55:09] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [04:55:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 671 frames
- Bitrate: 1,718 Kbs
- [04:55:10] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:55:33] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:56:10] Video Encode complete
- [04:56:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:56:10] Multiplexing M2TS
.......................................................
[10:07:55]PHASE ONE complete
[10:07:55]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:07:55] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:08:19] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[10:08:20]JOB: SALT finished.

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 17:57
That means that the original had used very little bitrate for that segment, as a proportional reduction ended up with a super small bitrate. I wonder if this is something done purposely, making a single segment be encoded at a significantly lower bitrate, but enough to get by without notice on the original? Hmmm....

drmih
12th December 2010, 18:04
Interestingly, this segment is the main action / car chase / explosion part of the movie.

omegaman7
12th December 2010, 18:41
That means that the original had used very little bitrate for that segment, as a proportional reduction ended up with a super small bitrate. I wonder if this is something done purposely, making a single segment be encoded at a significantly lower bitrate, but enough to get by without notice on the original? Hmmm....

LOL! I've often wondered that about some dvds. Which is why its best to use CCE/Dvd rebuilder over transcoders ;)

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 18:42
Interestingly, this segment is the main action / car chase / explosion part of the movie. And it's not like it's negligible -- it's 7 minutes long...

I have an idea as to how I might distribute available bitrate differently... I'll do some testing.

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 18:44
Interestingly, this segment is the main action / car chase / explosion part of the movie. How much total time does BD Rebuilder say is on the disc (in hours, minutes, and seconds)?

drmih
12th December 2010, 20:03
According to the log file above 04:34:45.001

KeVe1983
12th December 2010, 20:04
How much total time does BD Rebuilder say is on the disc (in hours, minutes, and seconds)?

So i've a question.

Yesterday i did a encode of the earth Documantation.
If i set output to BD25 BD RB says a total Runtime of 3 Hours 56 Minutes. If i set the output to BD9 there is a total Runtime of 4 Hours 26 Minutes

Why?

Capsbackup
12th December 2010, 20:10
So i've a question.

Yesterday i did a encode of the earth Documantation.
If i set output to BD25 BD RB says a total Runtime of 3 Hours 56 Minutes. If i set the output to BD9 there is a total Runtime of 4 Hours 26 Minutes

Why?

For BD-25 backups, not all files need to be reencoded. They meet the standard for Blu-ray.
For AVCHD, they need to be compliant for the standard for bitrate, audio, etc...

omegaman7
12th December 2010, 20:15
For BD-25 backups, not all files need to be reencoded. They meet the standard for Blu-ray.
For AVCHD, they need to be compliant for the standard for bitrate, audio, etc...
Which raises an interesting question. At least to me :p
Could one create a BD-25 AVCHD compliant disk? Or would a blu ray player get confused by that currently? I guess what I'm curious about is, having hours and hours of video on a BD-25 that looks near lossless. Perhaps not lossless, but very agreeable and sharp!

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 20:17
Argghh... It was in your post... ok, I'm a little slow sometimes.

Four and a half hours is a lot to fit on a DVD-9, so that's a contributing factor... but I'd still hope it to be more evenly distributed than it was.

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 20:20
Which raises an interesting question. At least to me :p
Could one create a BD-25 AVCHD compliant disk? Or would a blu ray player get confused by that currently? I guess what I'm curious about is, having hours and hours of video on a BD-25 that looks near lossless. Perhaps not lossless, but very agreeable and sharp! Sure you could. You can even create an AVCHD on a flash drive. The question would be "Why?" -- since you have more capability with the complete Blu-Ray standard (like JAVA, DTS, VC-1, etc.) and also everything that is in AVCHD.

Sharc
12th December 2010, 20:20
How much total time does BD Rebuilder say is on the disc (in hours, minutes, and seconds)?
4:24:43 (Region 2).
I did that disc in movie only mode. None of the movie segments had an exceptional low bit rate, all segments have a comparable and reasonable bitrate, bitrate spread say within 10...15% between segments.

omegaman7
12th December 2010, 20:23
Sweet. Looks like they're thinking ahead with the new formats. My mind is firing away with new ideas! :)

jdobbs
12th December 2010, 20:24
4:24:43 (Region 2).
I did that disc in movie only mode. None of the movie segments had an exceptional low bit rate, all segments have a comparable and reasonable bitrate, bitrate spread say within 10...15% between segments. Interesting. The distribution should be the same (after including audio/subtitle sizes) whether it is movie-only or full backup.

drmih
12th December 2010, 20:26
The actual film is only about 100 minutes so not too long for movie only. The rest of the film is very good quality on a bd-9, it's just the 7 minutes of action that are very blocky.

If when you get it you can't repeat it I will re-do it with a fresh rip and check the source first, just in case it was a glitch which caused the issue with that segment.

LowDead
13th December 2010, 00:54
I just did the old movie Twister to BD25 which showed pixelation in some intense scenes(dark with some lighning flashes). I got the feeling something just didn't cope with that much action on screen. I thought immediately about the 7 minutes scene you guys have been talking about. I haven't seen this behaviour before, and now I think out loud, can the new x264 or maybe the removed weightp setting be the cause of this? Probably not but as I said.. I was just thinking out loud :)

I will have a closer look at the original BD to see if I could notice this.

Keep it up JD!! :thanks:

omegaman7
13th December 2010, 01:08
Sure you could. You can even create an AVCHD on a flash drive. The question would be "Why?" -- since you have more capability with the complete Blu-Ray standard (like JAVA, DTS, VC-1, etc.) and also everything that is in AVCHD.

Imagine putting an entire season of say dexter on one Blu Ray disc. Seasons with 20+ episodes might be pushing it. But perhaps not. Nero Vision does not give me the option for creating an AVCHD with BD-25 as output size. That's why I was curious. I thought it might have something to do with the AVCHD standard. Which I'm obviously not well versed on :p

Sorry about off topic. I won't do this again. Clearly I have some reading to do ;)

SquallMX
13th December 2010, 04:14
That means that the original had used very little bitrate for that segment, as a proportional reduction ended up with a super small bitrate. I wonder if this is something done purposely, making a single segment be encoded at a significantly lower bitrate, but enough to get by without notice on the original? Hmmm....

Sony has been doing this since DVD times, using moderate bitrates for complex chapters and high bitrates for relatively easy to compress chapters, so DVD-Rs created with DVDShrink and Co will look with really bad quality in some cases, luckily DVD-RB with bitrate redistribution or OP-VBR is immune to this "protection" (from time to time the redistribution bitrates are bigger / equal than the original ones).
:helpful:

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 04:30
Imagine putting an entire season of say dexter on one Blu Ray disc. Seasons with 20+ episodes might be pushing it. But perhaps not. Nero Vision does not give me the option for creating an AVCHD with BD-25 as output size. That's why I was curious. I thought it might have something to do with the AVCHD standard. Which I'm obviously not well versed on :p

Sorry about off topic. I won't do this again. Clearly I have some reading to do ;) As long as you use the 720x480 format you'd be surprised what you can do with X264... I put 34 episodes on one disc for Season One of "Bonanza" -- it looks great.

omegaman7
13th December 2010, 04:56
As long as you use the 720x480 format you'd be surprised what you can do with X264... I put 34 episodes on one disc for Season One of "Bonanza" -- it looks great.

You're awesome man! As soon as I have funds, you will! Which shouldn't be long. I know i've said that before, but I do mean it!

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 17:02
Yeah thats a problem i had a few times now!

But in your case i dont understand why
BD9 is movie only, or not?

I have the same problems sometimes with my BD25 encodes.
If the Movie has more than 1 m2ts file, BD_RB encodes some parts as extras. So i've selected "Quicker encodes for extras" and so the Quality at some movie Parts is terrible and very blocking.

So if i see that the main movie has more than 1 m2ts file, i deselect "Quicker encodes for extras" and all seems fine.

My Disks with this Problems:

Wall-E -Encoded today with "Quicker encodes for extras" and some movie parts have heavy blocking. New encode with "Quicker encodes for extras" disabled = Encode is fine and i have no blocking

Inception
Salt
Knight and Day
Cop Out

I have no idea what you are doing differently -- but I can say I encoded "Inception" and "Cop Out" up one side and down the other with "Quicker" set on and off... and never experienced the issue you've mentioned.

I've also encoded "Wall-E" to death. I have to believe there is something unique going on with your system... are you using all the proper versions of the helper apps that are linked in the first post of this thread? It sure sounds like a CODEC frame serving issue -- or why would it not happen for me and others?

I would also suggest that trying to put 4 1/2 hours of high resolution video on a DVD-9 is really pushing the envelope. It's not impossible -- but it certainly is a lot to ask of even the greatest encoder.

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 17:31
So i've a question.

Yesterday i did a encode of the earth Documantation.
If i set output to BD25 BD RB says a total Runtime of 3 Hours 56 Minutes. If i set the output to BD9 there is a total Runtime of 4 Hours 26 Minutes

Why? You know, I've been thinking about chaning that for a long time... the total runtime displayed is the amount that is being reencoded rather the total amount of content on the original disc. I put it there to give an idea of how much time it's going to take to encode. When you're writing to a BD-25 a lot of the content might be kept as-is, making that value a little counter-intuitive.

I think it might make more sense to say how much content of the entire disc will be written to the target so we know what kind of target we need to use rather than just showing the content that is being reencoded.

Any thoughts from others?

Capsbackup
13th December 2010, 18:12
I like knowing which titles will be reencoded. If all titles are listed, could the ones that will be reencoded be noted, as well as the ones that will be kept as is? ( for BD-25 output ) :)

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 18:21
I like knowing which titles will be reencoded. If all titles are listed, could the ones that will be reencoded be noted, as well as the ones that will be kept as is? ( for BD-25 output ) :) I guess I wasn't very clear. I have no intention of changing the title list, -- just the total content time display that shows in the info area at startup and in the log when an encode starts. The intent is to let you know how much total content time is going to be written to the target (which includes those not shown in the title list).

Capsbackup
13th December 2010, 18:31
I guess I wasn't very clear. I wouldn't change the title list, -- just the total content time line, so you know how much total content time is going to be written (which includes those not shown in the title list).

Yes, this would be welcome to me. It does make sense to recognize the entire contents on a disc for a full backup.
This will help with the decision of what media to use too, and hopefully avoid those low bitrate, too much content to backup to BD5/9 Blu-rays! :p

omegaman7
13th December 2010, 19:00
I converted the matrix movies from BD-25 to DVD-9, and then had dvd rebuilder/cce encode to Dvd-5(6 passes, even though it's overkill). Just for the heck of it LOL! They came out looking highly impressive. Took 4hrs each! I really should put a secondary hard drive in there. It probably would have shaved 10 - 15min off each job. I was uncertain how well and how long it would take to go to Dvd-5, so I went with DVD-9 option. Was this silly? If it were you, would you simply have BD rebuilder finish the whole job? CCE is tried and trusted, I guess that's why I did it :p

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 19:13
I converted the matrix movies from BD-25 to DVD-9, and then had dvd rebuilder/cce encode to Dvd-5(6 passes, even though it's overkill). Just for the heck of it LOL! They came out looking highly impressive. Took 4hrs each! I really should put a secondary hard drive in there. It probably would have shaved 10 - 15min off each job. I was uncertain how well and how long it would take to go to Dvd-5, so I went with DVD-9 option. Was this silly? If it were you, would you simply have BD rebuilder finish the whole job? CCE is tried and trusted, I guess that's why I did it :p I personally would have gone straight to DVD-5. While I've always been a big fan of CCE, I think HC has gotten to a point where it is just as good -- and you likely would lose a lot more through the double decode/encode processes than you would have gained from CCE even if it were better.

omegaman7
13th December 2010, 19:25
Noted. Thanks for your input. Very much appreciated! :)

I'm pretty sure the quality is better than the original dvd ever was! ;)

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 19:28
Noted. Thanks for your input. Very much appreciated! :)

I'm pretty sure the quality is better than the original dvd ever was! ;) I wouldn't doubt that at all. :)

Hobojobo
13th December 2010, 23:02
I just did two blu-ray titles with the 1pass-CRF-encoding settings.

I used 720p output and CRF=18.

Inception (2:28h) with 2 audio streams (AC3 640kbit) 4,0 GB
Night and Day (1:57h) with 2 audio streams (DTS/AC3 640kbit) 4,7 GB

Can that be right?
That means, that both movie are good to compress, doesn't it?

Both look good quality wise.
The file size of the movies is even smaller than the DVDs.


I'm impressed.

jdobbs
13th December 2010, 23:33
I just did two blu-ray titles with the 1pass-CRF-encoding settings.

I used 720p output and CRF=18.

Inception (2:28h) with 2 audio streams (AC3 640kbit) 4,0 GB
Night and Day (1:57h) with 2 audio streams (DTS/AC3 640kbit) 4,7 GB

Can that be right?
That means, that both movie are good to compress, doesn't it?

Both look good quality wise.
The file size of the movies is even smaller than the DVDs.


I'm impressed. A CRF of 18 will always provide excellent quality -- and it proves how X264 can do a lot with a little bitrate.

Hobojobo
14th December 2010, 00:02
It is the the quality/size what impresses me.
But, I guess, I will come across movies, which won't let me use crf 18,720p to fit on a BD5.:devil:

Sephiroth0000
14th December 2010, 17:41
AUDIO ISSUES STILL...
Ok after afew months I have once again come back to BDRebuilder and yet still have the same issue which is audio out of sync afew chapters in. I attempted to do 'Hancock' this time and still problems, does anyone have any suggestions please as what BDRebuilder offers is brilliant if I can get it to work. I have included the log file to see if that is of any help and I do follow the install to the letter and yet still problems. Even when I run 'inspect' everything comes up as ok/passed so where is this going wrong? I have also done the encode/install on different machines and still the same problem. The only thing all machines have in common is that they are running x64 bit OS's


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[13:02:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: HANCOCK
- Input BD size: 25.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:14.336]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:02:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:02:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [13:07:01] Reencoding: VID_00123 (1 of 19)
- [13:07:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,409 frames
- Bitrate: 5,069 Kbs
- [13:07:01] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:14:14] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:33:40] Video Encode complete
- [13:33:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:35:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:35:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00141]
- [13:36:00] Reencoding: VID_00141 (2 of 19)
- [13:36:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,097 frames
- Bitrate: 4,802 Kbs
- [13:36:00] Reencoding: VID_00141, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:43:51] Reencoding: VID_00141, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:05:24] Video Encode complete
- [14:05:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:05:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- [14:06:35] Reencoding: VID_00125 (3 of 19)
- [14:06:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,851 frames
- Bitrate: 4,893 Kbs
- [14:06:35] Reencoding: VID_00125, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:20:23] Reencoding: VID_00125, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:56:55] Video Encode complete
- [14:56:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:57:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00142]
- [14:57:32] Reencoding: VID_00142 (4 of 19)
- [14:57:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,798 frames
- Bitrate: 5,024 Kbs
- [14:57:32] Reencoding: VID_00142, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:03:38] Reencoding: VID_00142, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:19:28] Video Encode complete
- [15:19:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:19:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00127]
- [15:19:57] Reencoding: VID_00127 (5 of 19)
- [15:19:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,617 frames
- Bitrate: 4,756 Kbs
- [15:19:57] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:25:43] Reencoding: VID_00127, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:40:25] Video Encode complete
- [15:40:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:40:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00143]
- [15:40:37] Reencoding: VID_00143 (6 of 19)
- [15:40:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,458 frames
- Bitrate: 5,184 Kbs
- [15:40:37] Reencoding: VID_00143, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:42:48] Reencoding: VID_00143, Pass 2 of 2
- [15:48:36] Video Encode complete
- [15:48:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:48:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [15:50:02] Reencoding: VID_00129 (7 of 19)
- [15:50:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 21,113 frames
- Bitrate: 4,914 Kbs
- [15:50:02] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:08:09] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:56:07] Video Encode complete
- [16:56:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:56:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00144]
- [16:56:26] Reencoding: VID_00144 (8 of 19)
- [16:56:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,488 frames
- Bitrate: 5,170 Kbs
- [16:56:26] Reencoding: VID_00144, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:57:45] Reencoding: VID_00144, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:01:17] Video Encode complete
- [17:01:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:01:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [17:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00131 (9 of 19)
- [17:01:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,657 frames
- Bitrate: 4,827 Kbs
- [17:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:04:43] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:12:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:12:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:12:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00145]
- [17:12:59] Reencoding: VID_00145 (10 of 19)
- [17:12:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 999 frames
- Bitrate: 5,101 Kbs
- [17:12:59] Reencoding: VID_00145, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:13:52] Reencoding: VID_00145, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:16:10] Video Encode complete
- [17:16:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:16:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00133]
- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133 (11 of 19)
- [17:16:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,332 frames
- Bitrate: 4,996 Kbs
- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:22:02] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [17:26:45] Video Encode complete
- [17:26:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00133.meta
- Demuxing time: 35 sec
[17:32:23] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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[17:32:35] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: HANCOCK
- Input BD size: 25.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:14.336]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:32:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:32:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00146]
- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146 (12 of 19)
- [17:33:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,349 frames
- Bitrate: 5,028 Kbs
- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:42:24] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:06:57] Video Encode complete
- [18:06:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:07:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00135]
- [18:07:17] Reencoding: VID_00135 (13 of 19)
- [18:07:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,432 frames
- Bitrate: 4,741 Kbs
- [18:07:17] Reencoding: VID_00135, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:10:17] Reencoding: VID_00135, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:18:20] Video Encode complete
- [18:18:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:18:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00147]
- [18:18:42] Reencoding: VID_00147 (14 of 19)
- [18:18:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,227 frames
- Bitrate: 4,877 Kbs
- [18:18:42] Reencoding: VID_00147, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:23:15] Reencoding: VID_00147, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:35:13] Video Encode complete
- [18:35:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:35:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00137]
- [18:35:33] Reencoding: VID_00137 (15 of 19)
- [18:35:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,309 frames
- Bitrate: 5,325 Kbs
- [18:35:33] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:39:20] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:50:22] Video Encode complete
- [18:50:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:50:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00148]
- [18:50:34] Reencoding: VID_00148 (16 of 19)
- [18:50:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,229 frames
- Bitrate: 5,363 Kbs
- [18:50:34] Reencoding: VID_00148, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:52:34] Reencoding: VID_00148, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:57:48] Video Encode complete
- [18:57:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:57:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00139]
- [18:58:48] Reencoding: VID_00139 (17 of 19)
- [18:58:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,519 frames
- Bitrate: 4,848 Kbs
- [18:58:49] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:11:11] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:43:27] Video Encode complete
- [19:43:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:43:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00149]
- [19:43:39] Reencoding: VID_00149 (18 of 19)
- [19:43:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 737 frames
- Bitrate: 5,350 Kbs
- [19:43:39] Reencoding: VID_00149, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:44:18] Reencoding: VID_00149, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:46:03] Video Encode complete
- [19:46:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:46:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00150]
- [19:47:39] Reencoding: VID_00150 (19 of 19)
- [19:47:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 23,456 frames
- Bitrate: 4,890 Kbs
- [19:47:39] Reencoding: VID_00150, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:05:41] Reencoding: VID_00150, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:52:51] Video Encode complete
- [20:52:51] Multiplexing M2TS
[20:53:03]PHASE ONE complete
[20:53:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:53:03] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[20:54:49] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:54:49] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[20:56:54]JOB: HANCOCK finished.

This is the other file.....................

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LABEL=HANCOCK
VERSION=v0.36.04 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27617734656
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27617734656
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.169676702393183
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=19
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
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AUDIO=100000
PGS=1000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=274307187
RATE=5069
NSTART=27000000
NEND=42780765
NSIZE=234928128
FLINK=-1
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M2TS_TARGET=283032859
RATE=4802
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NEND=44072055
AUDIO=100000
NSIZE=240457728
FLINK=-1
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M2TS_TARGET=501342498
RATE=4893
NSTART=27000000
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AUDIO=100000
NSIZE=426086400
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M2TS_TARGET=220036009
RATE=5024
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FLINK=-1
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M2TS_TARGET=204172383
RATE=4756
NSTART=27000000
NEND=39417405
AUDIO=100000
NSIZE=172929024
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M2TS_TARGET=81769033
RATE=5184
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M2TS_TARGET=670169134
RATE=4914
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AUDIO=100000
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RATE=5101
NSTART=27000000
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AUDIO=100000
NSIZE=27850752
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RATE=4996
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NEND=46421902
AUDIO=100000
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M2TS_TARGET=105590013
RATE=4741
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33439558
AUDIO=100000
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M2TS_TARGET=164841182
RATE=4877
NSTART=27000000
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RATE=5325
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35085577
AUDIO=100000
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NSTART=27000000
NEND=31181677
AUDIO=100000
NSIZE=66177024
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RATE=4848
NSTART=27000000
NEND=54248471
AUDIO=100000
NSIZE=386863104
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RATE=5350
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28381380
AUDIO=100000
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M2TS_TARGET=741364153
RATE=4890
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humphammer
14th December 2010, 17:52
I don't know if this is a bug or not and unfortunately I have deleted the files because I didn't know I was having problems until I tried to play my back-up's all the way through....I have backed up three movies with the latest version of BDRB movie only all on Verbatim BD-R 25 and all three at some point in the movie will pause and jump ahead a few seconds, they may play fine for a chapter or two and then start doing it again....have I run into a batch of bad media, or is anyone else having problems like this with 36.06? BTW these are from the spindle that I have used on over 30 sucessful back-ups, and the movies were Inception, Planet 51, and Shrek Forever After.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

jdobbs
14th December 2010, 18:39
I don't know if this is a bug or not and unfortunately I have deleted the files because I didn't know I was having problems until I tried to play my back-up's all the way through....I have backed up three movies with the latest version of BDRB movie only all on Verbatim BD-R 25 and all three at some point in the movie will pause and jump ahead a few seconds, they may play fine for a chapter or two and then start doing it again....have I run into a batch of bad media, or is anyone else having problems like this with 36.06? BTW these are from the spindle that I have used on over 30 sucessful back-ups, and the movies were Inception, Planet 51, and Shrek Forever After.

Thanks in advance for any replies. If you are playing on a standalone playre, it's almost certainly media. If you're playing on a PC -- it could be the PC's CODEC or video.

jdobbs
14th December 2010, 18:49
- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133 (11 of 19)
- [17:16:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,332 frames
- Bitrate: 4,996 Kbs
- [17:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:22:02] Reencoding: VID_00133, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- [17:26:45] Video Encode complete
- [17:26:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00133.meta
- Demuxing time: 35 sec
[17:32:23] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[17:32:35] BD Rebuilder v0.36.04 (beta)
- Source: HANCOCK
- Input BD size: 25.72 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:14.336]
- Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[17:32:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:32:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00146]
- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146 (12 of 19)
- [17:33:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,349 frames
- Bitrate: 5,028 Kbs
- [17:33:21] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:42:24] Reencoding: VID_00146, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:06:57] Video Encode complete
- [18:06:57] Multiplexing M2TS Notice in the log that there was a failure to mux VID_00133... and when it was resumed it started at VID_00146. So the questions are:

1. Why did it fail? Was it incomplete?
2. It looks like the mux completed too quickly (less than one second) when it restarted... indicating the input was incomplete.
3. Why did it not pick up where it left off instead of going on to VID_00146?

I can look at the second and third questions... unless you modified the INF between the two. But the first issue indicates something external -- like a corrupted disc or a flaky system. Are you overclocked? Are you positive you are using the helper apps linked in the first post of this thread? I ask because the problem you are seeing is indicative of an incorrect HAALI or FFDSHOW version in use.

Also what are you using to rip the source? If it isn't AnyDVD, I would download the demo and try that instead of your method.

Also, can you run INSPECT.EXE and post the results? All of these discs have been done successfully by myself and others, so something unique is at play in your environment.

humphammer
14th December 2010, 19:06
If you are playing on a standalone playre, it's almost certainly media. If you're playing on a PC -- it could be the PC's CODEC or video.
Just tried the Shrek back-up it does the same thing at the same spots in the movie on both my Sony 400 disc Blu-Ray changer, and my Dell laptop....so bad media is no doubt the problem....maybe Santa will bring me a new spindle, but three coasters out of 41 perfect ones used out of a 50 pack spindle is not bad.

Did not think it was your program it has been perfect for my use so far and if you go from beta to retail I would certainly purchase....until then a donation has been made.
:thanks: Humphammer

omegaman7
14th December 2010, 19:13
Why does it have to be the media? Why not a flaky burner? I've had them. So far my LG WH10LS30 is an excellent burner. My Lite-on iHES108 BD-Rom however, is only a So so reading drive. It seems to ignore read errors on occasion. So I only allow it to read Brand new BD discs. It even screwed up reading a DVD once upon a time. Given BD drives are still spendy, I only allow BD discs in them now. I was merely breaking it in when I bought it :p So far every BD-R I've thrown at the LG, has came out flawless. Though the Philips/Optical quantums may not be the best. Or at least the living room player stuck its nose up once...(Which could be due to firmware issue)

humphammer
14th December 2010, 19:47
Why does it have to be the media? Why not a flaky burner? I've had them. So far my LG WH10LS30 is an excellent burner. My Lite-on iHES108 BD-Rom however, is only a So so reading drive. It seems to ignore read errors on occasion. So I only allow it to read Brand new BD discs. It even screwed up reading a DVD once upon a time. Given BD drives are still spendy, I only allow BD discs in them now. I was merely breaking it in when I bought it :p So far every BD-R I've thrown at the LG, has came out flawless. Though the Philips/Optical quantums may not be the best. Or at least the living room player stuck its nose up once...(Which could be due to firmware issue)
I sure do hope it's not the burner....it's just six months old, I guess time will tell.

jdobbs
14th December 2010, 21:31
Why does it have to be the media? Why not a flaky burner? I've had them. So far my LG WH10LS30 is an excellent burner. My Lite-on iHES108 BD-Rom however, is only a So so reading drive. It seems to ignore read errors on occasion. So I only allow it to read Brand new BD discs. It even screwed up reading a DVD once upon a time. Given BD drives are still spendy, I only allow BD discs in them now. I was merely breaking it in when I bought it :p So far every BD-R I've thrown at the LG, has came out flawless. Though the Philips/Optical quantums may not be the best. Or at least the living room player stuck its nose up once...(Which could be due to firmware issue) Not likely -- since it's happening at the same spot(s). But anything is possible.

Sephiroth0000
14th December 2010, 21:38
YES I am overclocked. I am running a Intel Dualcore E5200 2.50Ghz O/C to 3.45Ghz. But it is completely stable so far as I know. Could this possibly be an issue? I have used all the versions specificed on the first page to the letter aswell as running inspect.exe with no problems also. I have no doubt that the problem is my system. I just can't figure out why :(

jdobbs
14th December 2010, 22:13
YES I am overclocked. I am running a Intel Dualcore E5200 2.50Ghz O/C to 3.45Ghz. But it is completely stable so far as I know. Could this possibly be an issue? I have used all the versions specificed on the first page to the letter aswell as running inspect.exe with no problems also. I have no doubt that the problem is my system. I just can't figure out why :( What I believe you'll find is that if you slow down your system a little, the problem will likely disappear. X264 will stress you system to the max -- a lot more than other "stress testers"... I've seen it happen many times before, usually after a couple of hours of running.

Sephiroth0000
14th December 2010, 23:18
What I believe you'll find is that if you slow down your system a little, the problem will likely disappear. X264 will stress you system to the max -- a lot more than other "stress testers"... I've seen it happen many times before, usually after a couple of hours of running.

What if I were to set the priorty to low within BDRebuilder? That way the processors are not 'stressed' so to speak. My friend done the overclock and he lives in australia now. Funny you say x264 being the issue though because MeGui did not work for me either coming back with a x264 error.

This is the inspect report aswell.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Capsbackup
14th December 2010, 23:37
What if I were to set the priorty to low within BDRebuilder? That way the processors are not 'stressed' so to speak. My friend done the overclock and he lives in australia now. Funny you say x264 being the issue though because MeGui did not work for me either coming back with a x264 error.


This confirms the suspicion! :p
No setting will change the fact that your system is not running stable with such a high stress application like x264.
You could try opening the side of your PC case, set up an external room fan and blast away, seeing if you can make it run cooler. :rolleyes:
The real solution is to back off your over-clocking to get your processor running stable, since you need stable to get reliable BD-RB or any x264 backups. :cool:

omegaman7
15th December 2010, 00:23
Ahh yes. X264, the ultimate way to test stability ;) I fear it would find a problem with my 965 overclock :S It was too easy an overclock, at a low voltage.

jdobbs
15th December 2010, 01:15
What if I were to set the priorty to low within BDRebuilder? That way the processors are not 'stressed' so to speak. That makes no difference whatsoever. The priority is relative to the processes running... when there is nothing competing with X264 it will still max processor(s) out -- and even if X264 wasn't only process, the combination of X264 and other processors would max out the processors.

There's nothing wrong with overclocking -- but you have to make sure you back it down to a stable level. My guess is that yours is slightly faster than it should be.

cnote
15th December 2010, 03:07
I sure do hope it's not the burner....it's just six months old, I guess time will tell.

I had an LG Blu-ray burner fail on me after only 5 months. I blame most of on burning at Max speed though. Burn at 4x to get great value out of your drive.

humphammer
15th December 2010, 05:19
I had an LG Blu-ray burner fail on me after only 5 months. I blame most of on burning at Max speed though. Burn at 4x to get great value out of your drive.
I always burn at 2x....but I fear it is my burner, went to office max, and picked up a three pack of Verbatim came home backed up The Last Airbender and it skips as well....that is four in a row, they all play fine until the 40 to 45 minute mark then the picture will pause and skip ahead 30-45 seconds....if I leave the display up on the screen it continues to count while the picture is paused, then the picture will jump ahead to where the counter is....I have a two year warranty from Dell, but don't know if they will cover that.

setarip_old
15th December 2010, 05:33
@humphammer

Hi!

Have you tried running a cleaning disc on your player and/or burner?

humphammer
15th December 2010, 06:25
@humphammer

Hi!

Have you tried running a cleaning disc on your player and/or burner?

No I have not....it is not my player, I have three including the kids PS3 and the discs skip at the same spots on all three players....I thought it was bad media, but I purchased new today, and it does the same thing....I'll try cleaning the burner, I got it for fathers day this year, and did over 30 back-ups with zero problems....now have done four in a row from two different batches of Verbatim BD-R 25GB that skip regardless of what you play them in.

omegaman7
15th December 2010, 07:21
@humphammer, Are you a smoker? I was once upon a time. I fear that is what ultimately killed my first NEC drive. Optical technology doesn't like Cigarette smoke...
Thankfully, february makes 2 years without smoking :D Saves me money to buy things I like. E.g. Computer hardware :p

worknstiff
15th December 2010, 13:43
Just throwing this out there but I just did Resident Evil and while previewing the original BD disk, I got to the elevator scene and it started breaking up really bad. I finally ejected the disk but when I put it back in there was a copy protection error when it tried to play. I unplugged the player and waited a minute before plugging it up. The disk now plays but when it gets to the elevator scene it breaks up agian. When I ripped the disk I had no problems and I was afraid that the BD_RB recode was going to crash but it finished with no problems and plays perfectly. When I was playing the original disk the 24P playback was activated, and now I wonder if the disk was slightly damaged just enough to throw off the framerate and make it break up. Just out of curiosity what happens when you use BD_RB that leaves out the 24P playback information?

humphammer
15th December 2010, 13:50
@humphammer, Are you a smoker? I was once upon a time. I fear that is what ultimately killed my first NEC drive. Optical technology doesn't like Cigarette smoke...
Thankfully, february makes 2 years without smoking :D Saves me money to buy things I like. E.g. Computer hardware :p

No, my wife is but NEVER smokes in the house....good you quit wish I could get her to, but nicotine is a powerful drug. I have an old DVD burner that between backing up my DVD collection and converting years of home movies from VHS tape to DVD has probably burned over 1,000 discs and I have never cleaned it, nor had a problem.

Ozpol
15th December 2010, 13:54
Hi Guys, I am very new at this video encoding subject and have been playing with BD Rebuilder for a couple of weeks.

Firstly maybe a few words about my hardware:

Computer used for encoding: Intel quad core Q9400
Burner: Pioneer

Player: HTPC (Intel i3 powered) running Arcsoft Total Media Theatre 3
Player: Pioneer
Server: Server 2008R2 serving videos to above HTPC

Ripping Software: Anydvd

Although I have successfully backed up a few BDs I am finding some strange problems:

Currently I have been backing up each BD disc three ways: BD25, BD9 for storing on a server for playback via the HTPC, BD5 for storing on a regular DVD

The BD25 is a full disc backup. BD9 also a full disc backup. BD5 is a movie only backup.

Generally the BD5s work very well.

The BD25s work well, although just now I have tried to do a backup of The A Team and I get a mixture of English and German. The English contains a voice over which reads the stars names etc. Occassionally the people seem to speak what sounds like German. At the beginning of the movie there is a preview for : Knight & Day, Wall Street 2 and someother movie about a runaway train. The sound for Knight & Day and Wall Street 2 is non existant.

The BD9 version of the backup will not display the main menu for the movie.

I have had a problem with the menus not working on a number of disks including Sex & The City 2, Legion, The Backup Plan. I have burnt the BD9 image onto a disc and this also does not show the menus when played through the Pioneer player.

Am I missing something???

Many thanks for your help in advance.

Krys S

worknstiff
15th December 2010, 15:07
@ Ozpol---Quote: Am I missing something???

OK, I will give it a go since I'm just waiting for a response for my post above. If you are backing up to a BD-5 or even a BD-9 (Dvd+R or DVD+R DL) then BD_RB is converterting the video to AVCHD format, which really screws up the menu's and most of the HD audio streams in order to get it down to a manageable size. You really need to do a movie only when using BD_RB to fit onto this kind of disk. Doing a "Full Backup" to a BD-25 will pretty much make a complete backup of the whole disk but sometimes depending on the kind of java menus and the secondary HD audio and video streams it creates problems with different STB (set top box) players. It is a "CF" that is a constantly changing battlefield because of the encryption and also the firmware that is ever evolving because of it. I have for the most part had no problems just doing Movie Only to BD-9's but I see reports from others about audio issues and blocky output. My encoding computer is not used for anything else and is not being used while its busy encoding and seems to do fine, I wonder if these other problems are from people multitasking while encoding? Good luck with your projects, I can't really help with the streaming server stuff, don't use it. seeya worknstiff

jdobbs
15th December 2010, 15:11
Just throwing this out there but I just did Resident Evil and while previewing the original BD disk, I got to the elevator scene and it started breaking up really bad. I finally ejected the disk but when I put it back in there was a copy protection error when it tried to play. I unplugged the player and waited a minute before plugging it up. The disk now plays but when it gets to the elevator scene it breaks up agian. When I ripped the disk I had no problems and I was afraid that the BD_RB recode was going to crash but it finished with no problems and plays perfectly. When I was playing the original disk the 24P playback was activated, and now I wonder if the disk was slightly damaged just enough to throw off the framerate and make it break up. Just out of curiosity what happens when you use BD_RB that leaves out the 24P playback information? I'm not sure what you mean by "leaves out the 24P playback information". If I understand correctly you're talking about a player setting -- which should have no effect on BD-RB.

apophis906
15th December 2010, 18:38
I have come across a problem. This has happened on two different PC's one running Vista the other XP Pro. Tried two times on the XP Pro and then got the same results on the Vista one. Its the Die Another Day US disc from the volume one set. I have all the helper progams and settings as listed on the first post on both machines.

Log file.
[03:53:03] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: DIEANOTHERDAY
- Input BD size: 36.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:14:23.464]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[03:53:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:53:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [03:55:27] Reencoding: VID_00028 (1 of 56)
- [03:55:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 92,908 frames
- Bitrate: 3,247 Kbs
- [03:55:28] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:07:18] Video Encode complete
- [04:07:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:07:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:08:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [04:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00029 (2 of 56)
- [04:10:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 42,408 frames
- Bitrate: 3,252 Kbs
- [04:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:15:40] Video Encode complete
- [04:15:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:15:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:16:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [04:17:03] Reencoding: VID_00030 (3 of 56)
- [04:17:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 40,730 frames
- Bitrate: 3,306 Kbs
- [04:17:03] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:22:02] Video Encode complete
- [04:22:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:22:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:22:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [04:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00031 (4 of 56)
- [04:22:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,354 frames
- Bitrate: 3,245 Kbs
- [04:22:31] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:23:18] Video Encode complete
- [04:23:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:23:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:23:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [04:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00032 (5 of 56)
- [04:23:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 24,934 frames
- Bitrate: 3,248 Kbs
- [04:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:27:22] Video Encode complete
- [04:27:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:27:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:27:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [04:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00034 (6 of 56)
- [04:27:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,824 frames
- Bitrate: 11,752 Kbs
- [04:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:31:34] Video Encode complete
- [04:31:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:31:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:31:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [04:31:55] Reencoding: VID_00035 (7 of 56)
- [04:31:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,551 frames
- Bitrate: 10,678 Kbs
- [04:31:55] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:35:17] Video Encode complete
- [04:35:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:35:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:35:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [04:36:46] Reencoding: VID_00130 (8 of 56)
- [04:36:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 16,438 frames
- Bitrate: 12,137 Kbs
- [04:36:46] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:49:52] Video Encode complete
- [04:49:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:49:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:50:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [04:50:56] Reencoding: VID_00131 (9 of 56)
- [04:50:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,140 frames
- Bitrate: 12,023 Kbs
- [04:50:56] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 1
- [04:51:53] Video Encode complete
- [04:51:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:51:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:51:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
- [04:52:01] Reencoding: VID_00132 (10 of 56)
- [04:52:01] Collecting video information
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[04:52:04] - Failed video encode, aborted

inf file
[Status]
LABEL=DIEANOTHERDAY
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39618241495
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38822092800
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.612871609667576
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=chi;eng;jpn;zho;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=9
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1455005290
RATE=3247
NSTART=27000000
NEND=166500000
NSIZE=1435324416
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=665093527
RATE=3252
NSTART=27000000
NEND=90675360
NSIZE=651761664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=648713675
RATE=3306
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88155360
NSIZE=642539520
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00031]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=99453941
RATE=3245
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36540000
NSIZE=95526912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=390570976
RATE=3248
NSTART=27000000
NEND=64437120
NSIZE=384036864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00034]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=331113997
RATE=11752
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36053280
NSIZE=317442048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00035]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=278743657
RATE=10678
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35540640
NSIZE=271736832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=1441249980
RATE=12137
NSTART=27000000
NEND=57852000
NSIZE=1412358144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00131]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=100666427
RATE=12023
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29139360
NSIZE=99323904
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00132]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=92988607

omegaman7
15th December 2010, 18:40
No, my wife is but NEVER smokes in the house....good you quit wish I could get her to, but nicotine is a powerful drug. I have an old DVD burner that between backing up my DVD collection and converting years of home movies from VHS tape to DVD has probably burned over 1,000 discs and I have never cleaned it, nor had a problem.

That's quite a life for a burner. I've had one like that, and I have two quickly approaching 1000 burns.

She'll quit one day. Circumstances were just right for me. ;) I haven't looked back :D

jdobbs
15th December 2010, 18:44
That's quite a life for a burner. I've had one like that, and I have two quickly approaching 1000 burns.

She'll quit one day. Circumstances were just right for me. ;) I haven't looked back :D My Sony BWU-200S has been burning BDs since I bought it back in 2008 -- at lease one a day and sometimes more... not a problem to date (other than an occasional screwup that is centered located between the keyboard and the chair).

worknstiff
15th December 2010, 18:50
Quote: I'm not sure what you mean by "leaves out the 24P playback information". If I understand correctly you're talking about a player setting -- which should have no effect on BD-RB.
__________________When my player Panasonic DMP BDT-350 and other players play the original disks they always show 24P in the status on the TV, but when playing rebuilt disk I never see the 24P icon so I believe that the disk doesn't output 24P (24fps) or the TV would show it as such. Where does the disk store this framrate info?

jdobbs
15th December 2010, 18:52
Quote: I'm not sure what you mean by "leaves out the 24P playback information". If I understand correctly you're talking about a player setting -- which should have no effect on BD-RB.
__________________When my player Panasonic DMP BDT-350 and other players play the original disks they always show 24P in the status on the TV, but when playing rebuilt disk I never see the 24P icon so I believe that the disk doesn't output 24P (24fps) or the TV would show it as such. Where does the disk store this framrate info? It's stored in the M2TS file as a part of the stream, it's stored in the CLPI file for each M2TS, and it's stored in the MPLS file that might reference multiple MPLS files.

The only time it might change would be on a 480i stream that is telecined and is not being inverse telecined or when you have selected to convert to 720p. All others are set exactly the same framerate as they are in the original. The only thing that might change would be the encoding (MPEG or VC-1 will be converted to AVC) -- but that doesn't affect the frame rate of "progressive/interlaced" status.

omegaman7
15th December 2010, 18:56
I want to backup all the Harry potter movies to main movie only. I've done this in the past, only to discover critical english subtitles were removed. E.g. Avatar, Hidalgo, 2012, etc. Were there any necessary English subtitles in the harry potter movies? I don't think there were, but I'm not sure. Is there a website that can tell me things like that?

jdobbs
15th December 2010, 18:58
I want to backup all the Harry potter movies to main movie only. I've done this in the past, only to discover critical english subtitles were removed. E.g. Avatar, Hidalgo, 2012, etc. Were there any necessary English subtitles in the harry potter movies? I don't think there were, but I'm not sure. Is there a website that can tell me things like that?My recommendation is to always keep all subtitles. They are small enough that there really is no benefit to removing them. You never know when the subtitles are meant to be "forced" when foreign languages are spoken in the film.

omegaman7
15th December 2010, 19:05
Well there's a problem LOL! I backed them all up to MKV 7.98Gb with Ripbot264 a while back. And didn't keep the subs. See, I don't recall any foreign languages being spoken. Now I want to convert them to dvd-5, and am uncertain if it's even worth doing. I guess I'll find out :S

humphammer
15th December 2010, 21:49
My Sony BWU-200S has been burning BDs since I bought it back in 2008 -- at lease one a day and sometimes more... not a problem to date (other than an occasional screwup that is centered located between the keyboard and the chair).

I purchased yet another three pack of Verbatim BD-25GB's and backed up Ramona and Beezus, which was only 19.5 GB so BD Rebuilder didn't have to do it's thing....I got the same results this time after only 12 minutes into the movie and then intermittenly there after....so it has to be either the burner, or Imgburn....regardless that's five coasters in a row....guess I need to call Dell.

BTW anyone have any experience with Matsushita burners which I believe is what Dell uses?

omegaman7
15th December 2010, 21:51
Probably the burner then. I'd have um buy you new discs too. That's total BS! Assuming you're under warranty ;)

worknstiff
15th December 2010, 23:17
Quote: The only thing that might change would be the encoding (MPEG or VC-1 will be converted to AVC) -- but that doesn't affect the frame rate of "progressive/interlaced" status.

I think maybe that it only plays in 24P mode on real BD disks. When I backed up Avatar, I backed it up to BD-25 and it shows 24P playback but when burned to BD-9 AVCHD disk the 24P playback is not shown. I think maybe it is limited to BD only. 24P playback seems to have more color depth or sharpness it seems to me. thanks Jdobbs for the info and the great program, seeya worknstiff

Capsbackup
16th December 2010, 00:12
BTW anyone have any experience with Matsushita burners which I believe is what Dell uses?

I have one in my XPS M1530, and have been using it for two years and probably 125+ BD-R/RE, never had a problem.
Just 2x max write speed, which is slow by todays standards, but I am very pleased with it. :cool:

HatchetMan
16th December 2010, 02:58
==========================
[21:40:18] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
[21:40:18] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[21:40:18] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
-----------------------
[21:40:19] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: JINGLE_ALL_THE_WAY_US
- Input BD size: 22.21 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:29:31.115]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[21:40:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:40:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:45:36] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 10)
- [21:45:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 28,690 frames
- Bitrate: 6,315 Kbs
- [21:45:36] Reencoding: VID_00001
- [22:20:21] Video Encode complete
- [22:20:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:23:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:23:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [22:24:04] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 10)
- [22:24:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,277 frames
- Bitrate: 6,573 Kbs
- [22:24:04] Reencoding: VID_00002
- [22:35:30] Video Encode complete
- [22:35:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:35:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [22:36:07] Reencoding: VID_00003 (3 of 10)
- [22:36:07] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,864 frames
- Bitrate: 7,118 Kbs
- [22:36:07] Reencoding: VID_00003
- [22:46:08] Video Encode complete
- [22:46:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:46:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [22:47:00] Reencoding: VID_00004 (4 of 10)
- [22:47:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,506 frames
- Bitrate: 6,972 Kbs
- [22:47:00] Reencoding: VID_00004
- [23:00:14] Video Encode complete
- [23:00:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:00:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [23:00:29] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 10)
- [23:00:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,427 frames
- Bitrate: 5,737 Kbs
- [23:00:29] Reencoding: VID_00005
- [23:05:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:05:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:05:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [23:06:03] Reencoding: VID_00006 (6 of 10)
- [23:06:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,773 frames
- Bitrate: 6,639 Kbs
- [23:06:03] Reencoding: VID_00006
- [23:14:38] Video Encode complete
- [23:14:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:14:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [23:15:11] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 10)
- [23:15:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,117 frames
- Bitrate: 6,258 Kbs
- [23:15:11] Reencoding: VID_00007
- [23:24:53] Video Encode complete
- [23:24:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:24:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [23:24:57] Reencoding: VID_00008 (8 of 10)
- [23:24:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,084 frames
- Bitrate: 5,902 Kbs
- [23:24:57] Reencoding: VID_00008
- [23:26:16] Video Encode complete
- [23:26:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:26:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [23:28:49] Reencoding: VID_00009 (9 of 10)
- [23:28:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 34,493 frames
- Bitrate: 6,504 Kbs
- [23:28:49] Reencoding: VID_00009
- [00:10:27] Video Encode complete
- [00:10:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:10:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [00:11:21] Reencoding: VID_00010 (10 of 10)
- [00:11:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 17,547 frames
- Bitrate: 4,826 Kbs
- [00:11:21] Reencoding: VID_00010
- [00:28:25] Video Encode complete
- [00:28:25] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:28:25]PHASE ONE complete
[00:28:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00001 [1 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00002 [2 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00003 [3 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00004 [4 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00005 [5 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00006 [6 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00007 [7 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00008 [8 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00009 [9 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Rebuilding stream 00010 [10 of 10]
- [00:28:25] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [00:29:25] Starting MPLEX.
- [00:29:25] MovieOnlyRebuild() 00053 2904
[17:31:57] - Aborted at user request
[17:31:57] BATCH ABORTED...
==========================
[17:31:57] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================

:confused:

jdobbs
16th December 2010, 04:07
Error 00053 means "can't find specified file" -- it sounds like MPLEX.EXE might be missing... it should be in the ..\tools\dvdauthor folder.

humphammer
16th December 2010, 04:55
I have one in my XPS M1530, and have been using it for two years and probably 125+ BD-R/RE, never had a problem.
Just 2x max write speed, which is slow by todays standards, but I am very pleased with it. :cool:
I have never used any setting faster than 2x....I burned Ramona and Beezus again this afternoon with a BD-R from the same spindle dropped the speed on Imgburn to 1x and it played fine with no glitches

HatchetMan
16th December 2010, 05:17
Error 00053 means "can't find specified file" -- it sounds like MPLEX.EXE might be missing... it should be in the ..\tools\dvdauthor folder.
mplex.exe is right where you said it should be, in the ..\tools\dvdauthor folder

jdobbs
16th December 2010, 15:48
mplex.exe is right where you said it should be, in the ..\tools\dvdauthor folder Well, some file is missing... all I can say is try it again.

CaptainTivo
16th December 2010, 17:02
Hello,
I am having trouble getting Inception to finish converting.
BDRB re-encodes 29 files and fails on the 30th!
The log file claims that FFSHOW is set incorrectly on VID_00037, (which is actually the credits at the end of the film).

I have un-installed and re-installed ffdshow with no better results. I simply installed ffdshow with the default settings and this has worked fine for all my past conversions.

BTW, does anyone know why some BDs have one or two clips for the main film and others, like this one, have dozens?

Thanks for taking a look at this.

Hunter


Here is a quote from the log file:

-----------------------
[16:30:17] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: INCEPTION_MAIN
- Input BD size: 37.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:10:22.077]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:30:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:30:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [17:08:53] Reencoding: VID_00038 (1 of 31)
- [17:08:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 528 frames
- Bitrate: 2,616 Kbs
- [17:08:54] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:09:29] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:10:24] Video Encode complete
- [17:10:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:19:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:19:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]

< eliding 29 files re-encoded>

- [04:19:08] Reencoding: VID_00037 (31 of 31)
- [04:19:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,609 frames
- Bitrate: 742 Kbs
- [04:19:08] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[04:19:23] - Failed video encode, aborted

Here is the INF file:

[Status]
LABEL=INCEPTION_MAIN
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39832246272
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39832246272
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.211440810404919
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=30
[00038]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=111100
M2TS_TARGET=10145911
RATE=2616
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27989113
NSIZE=8042496
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00001]
M2TS_TARGET=134670407
RATE=5542
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33998867
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=112834560
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00039]
M2TS_TARGET=107445329
RATE=2777
NSTART=27000000
NEND=37009374
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=81770496
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00009]
M2TS_TARGET=355464141
RATE=5457
NSTART=27000000
NEND=45731212
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=299476992
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00040]
M2TS_TARGET=122597942
RATE=2881
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38088577
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=94377984
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00011]
M2TS_TARGET=880407869
RATE=5407
NSTART=27000000
NEND=73775478
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=739196928
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00041]
M2TS_TARGET=115937496
RATE=3018
NSTART=27000000
NEND=37101341
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=90212352
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00015]
M2TS_TARGET=636118751
RATE=5956
NSTART=27000000
NEND=58015359
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=539879424
FLINK=-1
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[00042]
M2TS_TARGET=89404834
RATE=3033
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34759001
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=69255168
FLINK=-1
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[00017]
M2TS_TARGET=1174279444
RATE=4990
NSTART=27000000
NEND=93957515
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=978941952
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00043]
M2TS_TARGET=127495520
RATE=3032
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38066055
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=99127296
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00019]
M2TS_TARGET=39983464
RATE=6899
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28706079
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=34308096
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00044]
M2TS_TARGET=95413136
RATE=2820
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35780021
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=73340928
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00021]
M2TS_TARGET=1071882388
RATE=5262
NSTART=27000000
NEND=85331397
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=898639872
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00045]
M2TS_TARGET=82058467
RATE=2894
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34394887
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=62416896
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00023]
M2TS_TARGET=563898311
RATE=6263
NSTART=27000000
NEND=53283757
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=481394688
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00046]
M2TS_TARGET=155961232
RATE=2710
NSTART=27000000
NEND=41810420
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=118278144
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00025]
M2TS_TARGET=206063326
RATE=5753
NSTART=27000000
NEND=37360350
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=174108672
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00047]
M2TS_TARGET=104119653
RATE=2929
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36294285
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=80246784
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00027]
M2TS_TARGET=137711583
RATE=6302
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33381375
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=117602304
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00048]
M2TS_TARGET=63591869
RATE=3037
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32512382
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=49238016
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00029]
M2TS_TARGET=432579562
RATE=5817
NSTART=27000000
NEND=48537140
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=366925824
FLINK=-1
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[00049]
M2TS_TARGET=116587042
RATE=2734
NSTART=27000000
NEND=37996610
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=89253888
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00031]
M2TS_TARGET=845910472
RATE=5567
NSTART=27000000
NEND=70795001
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=713539584
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00050]
M2TS_TARGET=83469281
RATE=3165
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33996990
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=65347584
FLINK=-1
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[00033]
M2TS_TARGET=313147507
RATE=5592
NSTART=27000000
NEND=43148632
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=263669760
FLINK=-1
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[00051]
M2TS_TARGET=130774429
RATE=2785
NSTART=27000000
NEND=39154642
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=99790848
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00035]
M2TS_TARGET=73215545
RATE=4875
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31258629
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=60610560
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00008]
M2TS_TARGET=60021963
RATE=1819
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34704572
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=41963520
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00052]
M2TS_TARGET=11072164
RATE=1117
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28965088
AUDIO=1000
NSIZE=7065600
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00037]
M2TS_TARGET=80733393
RATE=742

jdobbs
16th December 2010, 17:15
BTW, does anyone know why some BDs have one or two clips for the main film and others, like this one, have dozens? When you have numerous parts, it's because there are numerous playback paths. Often you will find it is due to languages. For instance, you may have a page from a book or a computer screen show up in the movie -- in one playback path the display may be in English, while in another it might be German, Spanish or French. So at every point that there could be a different path, there are multiple M2TS/CLPI combinations that could fill a gap.

Typically when you select one playlist your are getting one path sequence, but it might include dozens of parts.

steveg32
16th December 2010, 23:57
@jdobbs

Every once in a while I use my iPod to watch a movie (mainly with my EZ Vision video glasses when traveling). I thought I'd try BD-RB to convert The Expendables.

Clicked Mode > Movie Only Backup > Alternate Movie-Only Output > and selected iPod MP4, 320x240/180,64Kbs AAC. I did not change any default settings (i.e. Standard Output was unchecked; CRF at 20 was checked; and 2-pass Bitrate Encoding was unchecked). After the successful encode I checked playback with Quicktime player (played great) then imported into my iTunes and synched my iPod. Although it plays in iTunes it will not synch to my model iPod. I usually convert using AVS VC 7 and the resulting m4v file always synchs to my iPod. If possible, I would prefer to use BD-RB for this type of conversion. Any chance you could make this happen for those of us with these earlier model iPods?

Here's the specs for my model (very common earlier model according to apple support guy):

iPod 5th Generation (Late 2006)
Model: 30 to 80 GB

Display: 320 by 240 pixel resolution, .156-mm dot pitch

Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3 and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF and WAV.

Video formats supported: H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Low-Complexity Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; H.264 video, up to 768 Kbps, 320 by 240 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats.

Any help would be grealty appreciated. Happy Holidays :thanks:

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 00:17
@steveg32

I'm running "The Expendables" now with those settings. I have an iPod Touch and a 30GB 5th Gen... I'll test it on both when it completes. Happy Holidays back at you -- and "go Chaminade" (my alma mater)...

steveg32
17th December 2010, 00:44
@steveg32

I'm running "The Expendables" now with those settings. I have an iPod Touch and a 30GB 5th Gen... I'll test it on both when it completes. Happy Holidays back at you -- and "go Chaminade" (my alma mater)...

Mahalo jdobbs. No way ... Chaminade? Really? Outstanding school! Almost went there myself (basketball recruit from 1976). Silverswords still lay claim to the biggest upset in college b-ball history when you guys beat then #1 Virginia led by 7'4" Ralph Sampson. Wow, what great days!

Mele Kalikimaka Me Ka Hauoli Makahiki Hou jdobbs! :)

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 00:53
Mahalo jdobbs. No way ... Chaminade? Really? Outstanding school! Almost went there myself (basketball recruit from 1976). Silverswords still lay claim to the biggest upset in college b-ball history when you guys beat then #1 Virginia led by 7'4" Ralph Sampson. Wow, what great days!

Mele Kalikimaka Me Ka Hauoli Makahiki Hou jdobbs! :) Back at ya' -- yeah, that game is legendary. In 7 days it will be 28 years ago. Hard to believe it has been that long.

HatchetMan
17th December 2010, 01:17
Well, some file is missing... all I can say is try it again.
Happened again, same error on this title BD->DVD (movie only/alternate output/DVD5). BD50->BD25 full disc backup worked flawlessly.
ErrLog.txt

12/15/10 [00:29:25] MovieOnlyRebuild() 00053 2904
12/16/10 [11:45:05] MovieOnlyRebuild() 00053 2904

BD-REBUILDER.LOG

[08:55:21] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: JINGLE_ALL_THE_WAY
- Input BD size: 22.21 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:29:31.115]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-5, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
[08:55:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:55:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [09:00:53] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 10)
- [09:00:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 28,690 frames
- Bitrate: 6,315 Kbs
- [09:00:53] Reencoding: VID_00001
- [09:35:42] Video Encode complete
- [09:35:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:38:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:38:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [09:39:27] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 10)
- [09:39:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 9,277 frames
- Bitrate: 6,573 Kbs
- [09:39:27] Reencoding: VID_00002
- [09:50:53] Video Encode complete
- [09:50:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [09:50:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [09:51:33] Reencoding: VID_00003 (3 of 10)
- [09:51:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,864 frames
- Bitrate: 7,118 Kbs
- [09:51:33] Reencoding: VID_00003
- [10:01:32] Video Encode complete
- [10:01:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:01:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [10:02:24] Reencoding: VID_00004 (4 of 10)
- [10:02:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,506 frames
- Bitrate: 6,972 Kbs
- [10:02:24] Reencoding: VID_00004
- [10:15:39] Video Encode complete
- [10:15:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:15:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [10:15:57] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 10)
- [10:15:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,427 frames
- Bitrate: 5,737 Kbs
- [10:15:57] Reencoding: VID_00005
- [10:21:01] Video Encode complete
- [10:21:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:21:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [10:21:32] Reencoding: VID_00006 (6 of 10)
- [10:21:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,773 frames
- Bitrate: 6,639 Kbs
- [10:21:32] Reencoding: VID_00006
- [10:30:08] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:30:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [10:30:44] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 10)
- [10:30:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,117 frames
- Bitrate: 6,258 Kbs
- [10:30:44] Reencoding: VID_00007
- [10:40:25] Video Encode complete
- [10:40:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:40:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [10:40:29] Reencoding: VID_00008 (8 of 10)
- [10:40:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,084 frames
- Bitrate: 5,902 Kbs
- [10:40:29] Reencoding: VID_00008
- [10:41:48] Video Encode complete
- [10:41:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:41:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [10:44:26] Reencoding: VID_00009 (9 of 10)
- [10:44:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 34,493 frames
- Bitrate: 6,504 Kbs
- [10:44:26] Reencoding: VID_00009
- [11:25:59] Video Encode complete
- [11:25:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:25:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [11:27:00] Reencoding: VID_00010 (10 of 10)
- [11:27:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 17,547 frames
- Bitrate: 4,826 Kbs
- [11:27:00] Reencoding: VID_00010
- [11:44:04] Video Encode complete
- [11:44:04] Multiplexing M2TS
[11:44:04]PHASE ONE complete
[11:44:04]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00001 [1 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00002 [2 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00003 [3 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00004 [4 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00005 [5 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00006 [6 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00007 [7 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00008 [8 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00009 [9 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Rebuilding stream 00010 [10 of 10]
- [11:44:04] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [11:45:05] Starting MPLEX.
- [11:45:05] MovieOnlyRebuild() 00053 2904
[17:00:07] - Aborted at user request
[17:00:07] BATCH ABORTED...
==========================
[17:00:08] END - BATCH SEQUENCE

INF

[Status]
LABEL=JINGLE_ALL_THE_WAY
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=23848200192
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=23848200192
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.196496427666352
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00001]
AUDIO=100
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1050305487
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=352636300
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00003]
M2TS_TARGET=322138142
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00004]
M2TS_TARGET=422052143
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00005]
M2TS_TARGET=148202548
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00006]
M2TS_TARGET=259844009
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00007]
M2TS_TARGET=294655756
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00008]
M2TS_TARGET=37261306
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00009]
M2TS_TARGET=1298119009
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00010]
M2TS_TARGET=500871444
AUDIO=100
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

mplex.exe

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 01:32
@steveg32

It failed on my 5th Gen also, but worked on the iPod Touch. I think I know what it is (wrong level) -- I'll fix it, test it, and you should see it in another version soon.

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 01:34
@HatchetMan

I'll see what I can find.

CaptainTivo
17th December 2010, 02:08
When you have numerous parts, it's because there are numerous playback paths. Often you will find it is due to languages. For instance, you may have a page from a book or a computer screen show up in the movie -- in one playback path the display may be in English, while in another it might be German, Spanish or French. So at every point that there could be a different path, there are multiple M2TS/CLPI combinations that could fill a gap.

Typically when you select one playlist your are getting one path sequence, but it might include dozens of parts.

Oh, that makes sense, thanks.

So, any idea why 29 files should re-encode fine while the 30th (and last) file gets this error? How is ffdshow set incorrectly? Is this set in the INF somewhere? I would really like to learn something.

- [04:19:08] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 02:23
@jdobbs

Every once in a while I use my iPod to watch a movie (mainly with my EZ Vision video glasses when traveling). I thought I'd try BD-RB to convert The Expendables.

Clicked Mode > Movie Only Backup > Alternate Movie-Only Output > and selected iPod MP4, 320x240/180,64Kbs AAC. I did not change any default settings (i.e. Standard Output was unchecked; CRF at 20 was checked; and 2-pass Bitrate Encoding was unchecked). After the successful encode I checked playback with Quicktime player (played great) then imported into my iTunes and synched my iPod. Although it plays in iTunes it will not synch to my model iPod. I usually convert using AVS VC 7 and the resulting m4v file always synchs to my iPod. If possible, I would prefer to use BD-RB for this type of conversion. Any chance you could make this happen for those of us with these earlier model iPods?

Here's the specs for my model (very common earlier model according to apple support guy):

iPod 5th Generation (Late 2006)
Model: 30 to 80 GB

Display: 320 by 240 pixel resolution, .156-mm dot pitch

Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3 and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF and WAV.

Video formats supported: H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Low-Complexity Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; H.264 video, up to 768 Kbps, 320 by 240 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48 kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats.

Any help would be grealty appreciated. Happy Holidays :thanks:I think the spec you're quoting is for the iPOD Classic. Based on what the Apple site says, the 5th Generation H.264 has a maximum bitrate of 768Kbs (as opposed to 1.5Mbs) and the video is limited to 320x240 (see this link (http://support.apple.com/kb/SP41)).

I may have to set up a special profile for this... as I'd hate to put the 768Kbs/320x240 limit on any of the newer models.

steveg32
17th December 2010, 04:44
I think the spec you're quoting is for the iPOD Classic. Based on what the Apple site says, the 5th Generation H.264 has a maximum bitrate of 768Kbs (as opposed to 1.5Mbs) and the video is limited to 320x240 (see this link (http://support.apple.com/kb/SP41)).

I may have to set up a special profile for this... as I'd hate to put the 768Kbs/320x240 limit on any of the newer models.

The specs I quoted are what the Apple site shows for my model MA446LL iPod (see this link (http://support.apple.com/kb/SP26)). I retrieved my tech specs after entering my serial #. My model is not listed on the specs link you provided. Hope this helps.

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 14:45
The specs I quoted are what the Apple site shows for my model MA446LL iPod (see this link (http://support.apple.com/kb/SP26)). I retrieved my tech specs after entering my serial #. My model is not listed on the specs link you provided. Hope this helps.Ok, what a mess... my 5th Gen model (MA002ZP) doesn't seem to be listed in any of their specs -- but it appears to be the one I linked. There are just too many iPod models with too many different specs. Consistency has never been Apple's strongest attribute. They also have the slowest website on the planet.

Anyway -- I got it working. I've made it so 320x240/180 and 480x360/270 each has a max bitrate of 768 (to support earlier models), 640x480/360 has a max bitrate of 1500 (to match the intermediate models), and higher resolutions have a max bitrate of 2500 (to match newer models).

fgm
17th December 2010, 20:00
Hi there,

I have encountered a problem with LEGEND OF THE GUARDIANS 3D & 2D. I´m trying to make a BD-25 and the original is less than 40GB. However BDRebuilder reads "- Input BD size: 75.03 GB".

I don´t understand it since the original disc has only two layers (BD-50). Seems like it´s reading the size of the movie twice.

I´m attaching the log with several modes for audio (I removed all except English and Spanish) with the same result. Any ideas? By the way, I also tried it with 36.03 and 36.02 with the same result.


----------------------
[11:55:30] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: LEGEND_OF_THE_GUARDIANS_3D
- Input BD size: 75.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:44:03.695]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=192
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[11:58:14] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: LEGEND_OF_THE_GUARDIANS_3D
- Input BD size: 75.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:44:03.695]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[11:58:32] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: LEGEND_OF_THE_GUARDIANS_3D
- Input BD size: 75.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:44:03.695]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[11:59:10] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: LEGEND_OF_THE_GUARDIANS_3D
- Input BD size: 75.03 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:44:03.695]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

jdobbs
17th December 2010, 20:04
3D isn't supported in BD-RB. It will be eventually -- but right now there really is no way to reencode to MVC. As for it appearing to be larger than the disc, that is how it should look on a 3D disc because some sectors are parts of more than one file and are therefore "double counted".

I should be able to do a non-3D backup of a 3D disc pretty easily -- maybe in one of the next couple of releases.

fgm
17th December 2010, 20:12
3D isn't supported in BD-RB. It will be eventually -- but right now there really is no way to reencode to MVC. As for it appearing to be larger than the disc, that is how it should look on a 3D disc because some sectors are parts of more than one file and are therefore "double counted".

I should be able to do a non-3D backup of a 3D disc pretty easily -- maybe in one of the next couple of releases.

Wow!!! That was fast!!! Thank you for your lightning-fast response.

The option to copy only the non-3D version would be great.

Thank you again.

LowDead
17th December 2010, 21:28
Have some problem with the old movie Twister (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117998/). R2 European Universal release. I'm getting pixelation in "fast" scenes. The example is at ~1:42.35.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1824/ci150042966430121508.jpg

To me it seems to be generated in the encode phase. The original plays back fine with no pixelation at all.

Can someone who has this movie please do a test run so I know if the problem is only at my end or if this is a troublesome title. It could of course be a bad rip but how can I know if the original shows no errors? It's ripped with latest AnyDVD HD to folder. Settings in BD-RB as follows:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7452/settingsm.jpg

Full backup, 2-pass Highest (Very slow) and without "Quick for extras"

[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24400
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
KEEP_MBTREE=1
WEIGHTP=1
OPEN_GOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
PROCESS_SECONDARY=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
VERSION=0.36.0.6
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=S:\BD-R\TWISTER_G51\
WORKING_PATH=R:\_TEMP\


- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


and the rest..

-----------------------
[00:18:46] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: TWISTER_G51
- Input BD size: 36,75 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:39:26.953]
- Target BD size: 23,83 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[00:18:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:18:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [00:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00020 (1 of 10)
- [00:18:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1*416 frames
- Bitrate: 11*070 Kbs
- [00:18:52] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:19:38] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:22:46] Video Encode complete
- [00:22:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:22:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:22:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [00:23:09] Reencoding: VID_00023 (2 of 10)
- [00:23:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6*472 frames
- Bitrate: 4*975 Kbs
- [00:23:09] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:23:42] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:28:30] Video Encode complete
- [00:28:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:28:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:28:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [00:29:50] Reencoding: VID_00024 (3 of 10)
- [00:29:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 24*932 frames
- Bitrate: 5*560 Kbs
- [00:29:50] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:32:12] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:54:22] Video Encode complete
- [00:54:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:54:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:54:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [00:55:34] Reencoding: VID_00025 (4 of 10)
- [00:55:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 15*352 frames
- Bitrate: 5*199 Kbs
- [00:55:34] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:56:52] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:08:24] Video Encode complete
- [01:08:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:08:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:08:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [01:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00027 (5 of 10)
- [01:22:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 162*601 frames
- Bitrate: 19*991 Kbs
- [01:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:51:30] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:50:33] Video Encode complete
- [09:50:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:50:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:13:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00044]
- [10:13:44] Reencoding: VID_00044 (6 of 10)
- [10:13:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*282 frames
- Bitrate: 10*870 Kbs
- [10:13:44] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:14:55] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:18:53] Video Encode complete
- [10:18:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:18:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:18:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [10:19:08] Reencoding: VID_00045 (7 of 10)
- [10:19:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2*157 frames
- Bitrate: 10*942 Kbs
- [10:19:08] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:20:16] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:24:01] Video Encode complete
- [10:24:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:24:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:24:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [10:26:37] Reencoding: VID_00050 (8 of 10)
- [10:26:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 52*102 frames
- Bitrate: 5*200 Kbs
- [10:26:37] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:31:07] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:02:08] Video Encode complete
- [11:02:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:02:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:02:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [11:03:21] Reencoding: VID_00051 (9 of 10)
- [11:03:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 3*714 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 5*206 Kbs
- [11:03:21] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:03:36] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:05:11] Video Encode complete
- [11:05:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:05:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:05:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00052]
- [11:09:12] Reencoding: VID_00052 (10 of 10)
- [11:09:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 81*472 frames
- Bitrate: 5*757 Kbs
- [11:09:13] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:16:40] Reencoding: VID_00052, Pass 2 of 2
- [12:21:03] Video Encode complete
- [12:21:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:21:03] Multiplexing M2TS
[12:22:33]PHASE ONE complete
[12:22:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:22:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:23:05] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:23:05]JOB: TWISTER_G51 finished.


[Status]
LABEL=TWISTER_G51
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39456802929
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38899470336
TARGET_SIZE=25585254400
REDUCTION=.643400066654316
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=10
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00020]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=87900020
RATE=11070
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29655778
NSIZE=85653504
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=150516332
RATE=4975
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36716206
NSIZE=148033536
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00024]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000000001
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=673437647
RATE=5560
NSTART=27000000
NEND=64434240
NSIZE=660670464
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00025]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000000001
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=375848089
RATE=5199
NSTART=27000000
NEND=50050080
NSIZE=369881088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00027]
AUDIO=0100000
PGS=01001000000001000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=19814010919
RATE=19991
NSTART=27000000
NEND=332181120
NSIZE=19277819904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00044]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=141784045
RATE=10870
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31281152
NSIZE=138498048
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00045]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=134878066
RATE=10942
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31046542
NSIZE=131868672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00050]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000000001
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1276001060
RATE=5200
NSTART=27000000
NEND=105229650
NSIZE=1255624704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00051]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000000001
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=91643558
RATE=5206
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32575680
NSIZE=90206208
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00052]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000000001
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=2281902071
RATE=5757
NSTART=27000000
NEND=149329440
NSIZE=2240200704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


Thanks for any help :)

steveg32
17th December 2010, 21:40
Ok, what a mess... my 5th Gen model (MA002ZP) doesn't seem to be listed in any of their specs -- but it appears to be the one I linked. There are just too many iPod models with too many different specs. Consistency has never been Apple's strongest attribute. They also have the slowest website on the planet.

Anyway -- I got it working. I've made it so 320x240/180 and 480x360/270 each has a max bitrate of 768 (to support earlier models), 640x480/360 has a max bitrate of 1500 (to match the intermediate models), and higher resolutions have a max bitrate of 2500 (to match newer models).

@jdobbs

Sounds great. I look forward to trying it again on the next version. Mahalo jdobbs!

Sharc
17th December 2010, 23:03
When pass 1 has been done in High Quality (Default) mode, can I change pass 2 to be done in Highest Quality mode, or would the stats file from pass 1 be invalid?
From x264 I get the warning 'direct=auto not used on the first pass'. Is this critical?

Ch3vr0n
17th December 2010, 23:53
If you use 2 pass mode, then afaik the 1st pass is only used to thoroughly analyse the m2ts stream. The actual encoding is then done in the 2nd pass using the quality selection you made.

Capsbackup
18th December 2010, 00:39
@LowDead;
It would probably be a good test to try it with x264 Internal LAVF for decoding unselected.
I seem to remember reading that some types of VC-1 files can be affected by it. ( not sure if this applies here, but it would be good to know if unselecting LAVF corrects this! )

LowDead
18th December 2010, 00:44
@LowDead;
It would probably be a good test to try it with x264 Internal LAVF for decoding unselected.
I seem to remember reading that some types of VC-1 files can be affected by it. ( not sure if this applies here, but it would be good to know if unselecting LAVF corrects this! )

Thanks for the tip! Will test overnight :)

Sharc
18th December 2010, 09:32
If you use 2 pass mode, then afaik the 1st pass is only used to thoroughly analyse the m2ts stream. The actual encoding is then done in the 2nd pass using the quality selection you made.
Yes, but when I select "Automatic Quality Settings" DB-RB uses '--direct spatial' for pass 1 (i.e. the x264 default). When I change for pass 2 to "High Quality" DB-RB will set '--direct auto' AFAIK. x264 then discovers that '--direct...' has not been specified for pass 1 and defaults to '--direct temporal' and outputs a warning. DB-RB however permits to resume the job based on the stats from pass 1.
Should DB-RB in this case recommend to redo pass 1?

jdobbs
18th December 2010, 13:42
Yes, but when I select "Automatic Quality Settings" DB-RB uses '--direct spatial' for pass 1 (i.e. the x264 default). When I change for pass 2 to "High Quality" DB-RB will set '--direct auto' AFAIK. x264 then discovers that '--direct...' has not been specified for pass 1 and defaults to '--direct temporal' and outputs a warning. DB-RB however permits to resume the job based on the stats from pass 1.
Should DB-RB in this case recommend to redo pass 1? BD-RB always uses the same set of settings for pass 1 and pass 2 -- unless you change the quality setting between the two.
If you use 2 pass mode, then afaik the 1st pass is only used to thoroughly analyse the m2ts stream. The actual encoding is then done in the 2nd pass using the quality selection you made.

Yes, but it does the analysis using the settings you have specified. It is probably not a good idea to use different quality settings between the two passes.

gamete
18th December 2010, 17:08
but the second pass is CRF or ABR ?

what is the difference ?

jdobbs
18th December 2010, 17:26
but the second pass is CRF or ABR ?

what is the difference ?CRF does an encode aiming at a specific quality level with a fairly unpredictable bitrate/size (depending upon the source). ABR does an encode aiming at a specific bitrate -- and the quality level is whatever can be reached in that bitrate/size.

Multiple pass is almost always ABR.

gamete
18th December 2010, 18:13
abr is better?

jdobbs
18th December 2010, 19:23
abr is better? No. Neither is better than the other... they are just different. If you want to do one pass and don't care about the size -- you can just pick a quality level you'd like to keep and do a CRF encode. If you want to ensure your output is within a range (such as the size of a DVD) you choose ABR. Two pass ABR will usually give you the best quality you can get for a certain target size.

In BD-RB, there also is a routine that does sample passes using different CRF values to try and guess the output size -- but the accuracy is limited.

gamete
18th December 2010, 19:31
if i use movie only , bd25, hight quality, 2 pass for best quality what should I choose?

if i don't choose nothing, bd-rb choose for me?

jdobbs
18th December 2010, 21:05
if i use movie only , bd25, hight quality, 2 pass for best quality what should I choose?

if i don't choose nothing, bd-rb choose for me?I recommend you choose "Automatic" and let BD-RB make all the decisions as to the best settings for encoding..

gamete
18th December 2010, 21:46
1)but automatic is one pass or two pass ?

2)forever or depends on the type of film ?

IVaN_000
18th December 2010, 22:20
I would love if you actually implement the "Blank this item" function. Any plans to do it soon?

jdobbs
18th December 2010, 22:33
1)but automatic is one pass or two pass ?

2)forever or depends on the type of film ? As the name says... it is "automatic" -- which means it sets the values (quality, passes, everything) to what is needed. It is explained in the "Frequently Asked Questions" sticky of this sub-forum.

Please... no more questions. This is supposed to be a bug reporting thread.

LowDead
19th December 2010, 00:16
@LowDead;
It would probably be a good test to try it with x264 Internal LAVF for decoding unselected.
I seem to remember reading that some types of VC-1 files can be affected by it. ( not sure if this applies here, but it would be good to know if unselecting LAVF corrects this! )

@Capsbackup: Thank you very much, it worked perfectly.

@JDobbs: Is the LAVF only used for minor speed improvements or does it also improve quality in some cases?

//LD

jdobbs
19th December 2010, 00:28
@Capsbackup: Thank you very much, it worked perfectly.

@JDobbs: Is the LAVF only used for minor speed improvements or does it also improve quality in some cases?

//LDWell... minor is a relative term. It can be a lot more than "minor" on some processors.

But -- the quality will probably be about the same either way.

Capsbackup
19th December 2010, 00:55
@Capsbackup: Thank you very much, it worked perfectly.

@JDobbs: Is the LAVF only used for minor speed improvements or does it also improve quality in some cases?

//LD

Good to know. I have never used/selected LAVF for decoding, and have never had these pixelations. :)

gamete
19th December 2010, 07:54
thanks jdobbs

jdobbs
19th December 2010, 15:12
Good to know. I have never used/selected LAVF for decoding, and have never had these pixelations. :) That would probably indicate that it is a CODEC issue. If the pixelation goes away -- it likely indicates another CODEC has overwritten FFDSHOW and is causing the problem before the encode even occurs.

This is why I keep stressing to people that they need to avoid codec packs, other video packages etc... and to reinstall with the apps from the first post if there seems to be problems or if they've installed something else. Some programs are just way to intrusive into your configuration, and "forget" to ask you before they modify your environment. But the advice just never seems to get through. Especially for those who really, really, really want to install newer versions of FFDSHOW, HAALI, or AVISYNTH for no reason other than "it is there".

LowDead
19th December 2010, 20:11
That would probably indicate that it is a CODEC issue. If the pixelation goes away -- it likely indicates another CODEC has overwritten FFDSHOW and is causing the problem before the encode even occurs.

Just to be clear.

LAVF=Pixelation
FFDSHOW=NO Pixelation

And I don't have any codec packs.. Everything installed as described in the first post. As Capsbackup said, LAVF caused it on this particular VC-1 stream. I had never seen any pixelation before and have been using LAVF since you implemented it.

But I agree totally.. Codec packs can be a pain in the..

//LD

jdobbs
19th December 2010, 21:10
Just to be clear.

LAVF=Pixelation
FFDSHOW=NO Pixelation

And I don't have any codec packs.. Everything installed as described in the first post. As Capsbackup said, LAVF caused it on this particular VC-1 stream. I had never seen any pixelation before and have been using LAVF since you implemented it.

But I agree totally.. Codec packs can be a pain in the..

//LD Oh... I thought it was happening in the other direction... interesting.

TheBreen
20th December 2010, 20:30
I have successfully created several BD25 images with the latest build but the Sound of Music (tis the season..) just will not compress for me properly without artifacts. The original disc is fine and so far I have tried using automatic, Good and High Quality settings. What I get are horizontal bands of purple color which periodically flash on and off when watching the compressed image. I don't think I have any codec packs or such installed, just the suggested ffdshow, although is there a simple way to confirm this?

http://i53.tinypic.com/345o5qf.jpg

Has this come up before or is there another setting I should try?

jdobbs
20th December 2010, 20:47
@TheBreen

Run INSPECT.EXE and post your results. It sounds more like a frame-serving issue than an encoding issue. Also, are you using LAVF or regular AVISYNTH encoding?

TheBreen
20th December 2010, 20:57
@TheBreen

Run INSPECT.EXE and post your results. It sounds more like a frame-serving issue than an encoding issue. Also, are you using LAVF or regular AVISYNTH encoding?

Hi and thanks. Here is the report from inspect.exe:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

It looks like there may be a problem above? I have not enabled the setting 'Use X264's internal LAVF for decoding', but I'm not sure that answers your question about AVISYNTH.

jdobbs
20th December 2010, 21:29
Hi and thanks. Here is the report from inspect.exe:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.6, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

It looks like there may be a problem above? I have not enabled the setting 'Use X264's internal LAVF for decoding', but I'm not sure that answers your question about AVISYNTH. What type of encoding was used on the source (VC-1, MPEG-2, or AVC)?

TheBreen
20th December 2010, 21:48
What type of encoding was used on the source (VC-1, MPEG-2, or AVC)?

I think AVC. While viewing with MPC-HC, 'properties' shows the following:

Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 23.98fps [Video - AVC (H.264), High Profile, Level 4.1, 1920x1080, 23.976 fps (1011,e0,00)]

MediaInfo:

Video #1
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 54mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 32.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
Source : 00360.m2ts

jdobbs
20th December 2010, 21:54
I think AVC. While viewing with MPC-HC, 'properties' shows the following:

Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 23.98fps [Video - AVC (H.264), High Profile, Level 4.1, 1920x1080, 23.976 fps (1011,e0,00)]

MediaInfo:

Video #1
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2h 54mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 32.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177
Source : 00360.m2ts I need to know what is on the original, the output is always going to be AVC. The original's format will show in the LOG of the encode.

[Edit] I just looked it up online -- and it looks like the original is in AVC as well. But could you check to be sure?

TheBreen
20th December 2010, 22:04
I need to know what is on the original, the output is always going to be AVC. The original's format will show in the LOG of the encode.

Sorry but I get lost with some of the technical shorthand. If you mean the original Sound of Music source (ripped disc), then what I posted above are the video properties shown by MPC-HC when viewing that original source.

When you refer to the LOG of the encode, do you mean the BD-Rebuilder log for this job?

-----------------------
[19:17:44] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: THE_SOUND_OF_MUSIC
- Input BD size: 42.17 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:54:41.429]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:17:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:17:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00360]
- [19:42:04] Reencoding: VID_00360 (1 of 1)
- [19:42:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 251,303 frames
- Bitrate: 16,702 Kbs
- [19:42:04] Reencoding: VID_00360, Pass 1 of 1
- [09:37:08] Video Encode complete
- [09:37:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [09:42:45] Multiplexing M2TS
[09:52:58]PHASE ONE complete
[09:52:58]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:52:58] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:04:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[10:04:24]JOB: THE_SOUND_OF_MUSIC finished.

If I still have not answered your question I profusely apologize and I may need guidance to know where to look for the answer. :confused:

Sephiroth0000
21st December 2010, 12:38
That makes no difference whatsoever. The priority is relative to the processes running... when there is nothing competing with X264 it will still max processor(s) out -- and even if X264 wasn't only process, the combination of X264 and other processors would max out the processors.

There's nothing wrong with overclocking -- but you have to make sure you back it down to a stable level. My guess is that yours is slightly faster than it should be.

Do you think bringing it back to 3ghz will be sufficent? It runs at 2.50ghz stock.

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 16:15
Do you think bringing it back to 3ghz will be sufficent? It runs at 2.50ghz stock. It's hard to tell... I'd just try it and see.

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 17:36
I've updated the first post of the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.07). Changes for this release:- Corrected an issue in which the iPod Alternate
output was not accepted on some earlier iPODs.
Changed encoding algoritm to adjust levels and
maximum bitrates to maintain compatibility
across all models.
- Modified the WEIGHTP=n hidden setting so that a
value of 0, 1, or 2 can be entered. This value
represents what will be used in the "--weightp"
option of the X264 command line. Default is "1".
- Made some changes to the "Quick Encode" decision
algorithm to ensure portions of multi-angle or
multi-path streams cannot be encoded with varying
levels of quality.
- Improved the initial scan for pulldown. Also
corrected some inconsistencies in the MPEG-2
extended scanning routine to ensure proper hybrid
and pulldown recognition.
- Changed the default for IVTC so that it is now
enabled. If you are playing back your encodes on
a PC and your CODEC doesn't handle pulldown very
well, you may want to consider disabling IVTC in
the SETUP dialog.
- Added a modified method of inverse telecining.
BD-RB can now takes advantage of DirectShowSource()
in that it ignores pulldown flags and provides
frame conversion. This can result in a significant
speed increase in encoding of IVTC'd sources (as
much as 30%). In order to use the new method, use
the "IVTC_TELECIDE=0" hidden setting. Note: This
may later become the default, but since it is still
experimental it requires making the hidden change.
- Changed the "Approximate Content" display so that
it show total for source, rather than just the
total that requires reencoding.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1834).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r1834).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Capsbackup
21st December 2010, 18:46
Just noticed if in audio setup I select "Limit to one track for each language", no audio tracks are selected for the Blu-ray Salt, even though there are 9 english tracks listed. Possible reason is the DTS Express (2nd) is listed first in the tree view list. :confused:
If I remove the Limit to one track, then eight of the nine are kept, of course except the DTS Express track.
Since this is a multi-m2ts Blu-ray, with three seperate versions of the movie to choose from, it requires many deselections of the audio tracks that are unwanted, and for the 20+ m2ts per version it is quite time consuming and requires checking every title to make sure all selections are the same and match each other! :(
Since it appears more titles are being released that are multi-m2ts, a simpler audio setup for these type movies will be very welcome. :)

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 19:04
Just noticed if in audio setup I select "Limit to one track for each language", no audio tracks are selected for the Blu-ray Salt, even though there are 9 english tracks listed. Possible reason is the DTS Express (2nd) is listed first in the tree view list. :confused:
If I remove the Limit to one track, then eight of the nine are kept, of course except the DTS Express track.
Since this is a multi-m2ts Blu-ray, with three seperate versions of the movie to choose from, it requires many deselections of the audio tracks that are unwanted, and for the 20+ m2ts per version it is quite time consuming and requires checking every title to make sure all selections are the same and match each other! :(
Since it appears more titles are being released that are multi-m2ts, a simpler audio setup for these type movies will be very welcome. :) I just picked that one up this morning. I'll run it a little later (I have a job going now) and see what I find.

You can expect the select/deselect of audio to apply to all parts of a playlist (at least for the main movie) to be included in the next release.

Capsbackup
21st December 2010, 19:15
I just picked that one up this morning. I'll run it a little later (I have a job going now) and see what I find.

You can expect the select/deselect of audio to apply to all parts of a playlist (at least for the feature) to be included in the next release.

Same happens for Movie-Only selection, but I assume since I only have to select one audio to keep, BD-RB applies that selection to all the other m2ts files associated with the kept mpls.
Your experience will be welcome, :thanks:

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 19:24
Same happens for Movie-Only selection, but I assume since I only have to select one audio to keep, BD-RB applies that selection to all the other m2ts files associated with the kept mpls.Your experience will be welcome, :thanks:Yep. In movie-only mode I apply the same audio selection(s) to all parts of a playlist.

omegaman7
21st December 2010, 19:28
I'll be doing Salt myself today ;)

You know Jdobbs, I use BD rebuilder and ConvertX almost equally as much for conversions. I have zero bugs with Rebuilder and convertX is plagued with bugs! You keep up the good work ;)

TheBreen
21st December 2010, 20:04
I need to know what is on the original, the output is always going to be AVC. The original's format will show in the LOG of the encode.

[Edit] I just looked it up online -- and it looks like the original is in AVC as well. But could you check to be sure?

Hi. Assuming my original is AVC, is there an alternative setting such as LAVF that might produce a different result in my case (avoiding the color shift)?

By the way, I just tried compressing Apocalypse Now Redux and received an (unrelated?) error 2506 after the job was apparently finished:

-----------------------
[01:06:31] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: APOCALYPSE_NOW
- Input BD size: 45.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:39:23.692]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[01:06:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:06:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00405]
- [01:06:35] Reencoding: VID_00405 (1 of 19)
- [01:06:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 999 frames
- [01:06:35] Reencoding: VID_00405, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:07:04] Video Encode complete
- [01:07:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:07:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:07:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00540]
- [01:07:17] Reencoding: VID_00540 (2 of 19)
- [01:07:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,687 frames
- [01:07:17] Reencoding: VID_00540, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:08:34] Video Encode complete
- [01:08:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:08:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:08:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00541]
- [01:08:53] Reencoding: VID_00541 (3 of 19)
- [01:08:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,417 frames
- [01:08:53] Reencoding: VID_00541, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:10:23] Video Encode complete
- [01:10:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:10:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:10:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00542]
- [01:10:51] Reencoding: VID_00542 (4 of 19)
- [01:10:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,581 frames
- [01:10:51] Reencoding: VID_00542, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:13:23] Video Encode complete
- [01:13:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:13:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:13:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00528]
- [01:14:02] Reencoding: VID_00528 (5 of 19)
- [01:14:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,041 frames
- Bitrate: 12,994 Kbs
- [01:14:02] Reencoding: VID_00528, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00528, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:22:48] Video Encode complete
- [01:22:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:22:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:23:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00539]
- [01:23:32] Reencoding: VID_00539 (6 of 19)
- [01:23:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,821 frames
- [01:23:32] Reencoding: VID_00539, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:27:05] Video Encode complete
- [01:27:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:27:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:27:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00534]
- [01:27:53] Reencoding: VID_00534 (7 of 19)
- [01:27:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 8,801 frames
- Bitrate: 13,274 Kbs
- [01:27:53] Reencoding: VID_00534, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:33:17] Reencoding: VID_00534, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:38:54] Video Encode complete
- [01:38:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:39:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:39:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00536]
- [01:40:01] Reencoding: VID_00536 (8 of 19)
- [01:40:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,155 frames
- Bitrate: 13,188 Kbs
- [01:40:01] Reencoding: VID_00536, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:46:36] Reencoding: VID_00536, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:53:39] Video Encode complete
- [01:53:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:53:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:54:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00530]
- [01:54:48] Reencoding: VID_00530 (9 of 19)
- [01:54:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,808 frames
- Bitrate: 13,451 Kbs
- [01:54:48] Reencoding: VID_00530, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:02:08] Reencoding: VID_00530, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:09:39] Video Encode complete
- [02:09:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:09:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:10:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00537]
- [02:10:51] Reencoding: VID_00537 (10 of 19)
- [02:10:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,912 frames
- [02:10:51] Reencoding: VID_00537, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:16:50] Video Encode complete
- [02:16:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:17:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:17:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00532]
- [02:18:10] Reencoding: VID_00532 (11 of 19)
- [02:18:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,728 frames
- Bitrate: 13,846 Kbs
- [02:18:10] Reencoding: VID_00532, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:27:04] Reencoding: VID_00532, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:36:16] Video Encode complete
- [02:36:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:36:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:36:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00396]
- [02:37:51] Reencoding: VID_00396 (12 of 19)
- [02:37:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 15,998 frames
- Bitrate: 14,017 Kbs
- [02:37:51] Reencoding: VID_00396, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:47:28] Reencoding: VID_00396, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:57:29] Video Encode complete
- [02:57:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:57:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:58:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00533]
- [02:59:25] Reencoding: VID_00533 (13 of 19)
- [02:59:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 20,084 frames
- Bitrate: 13,849 Kbs
- [02:59:25] Reencoding: VID_00533, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:13:33] Reencoding: VID_00533, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:28:31] Video Encode complete
- [03:28:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:29:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:29:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00531]
- [03:31:13] Reencoding: VID_00531 (14 of 19)
- [03:31:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 25,292 frames
- Bitrate: 14,089 Kbs
- [03:31:13] Reencoding: VID_00531, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:49:20] Reencoding: VID_00531, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:08:14] Video Encode complete
- [04:08:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:08:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:09:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00525]
- [04:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00525 (15 of 19)
- [04:11:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 28,140 frames
- Bitrate: 13,761 Kbs
- [04:11:33] Reencoding: VID_00525, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:31:18] Reencoding: VID_00525, Pass 2 of 2
- [04:51:44] Video Encode complete
- [04:51:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [04:52:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [04:53:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00529]
- [04:55:24] Reencoding: VID_00529 (16 of 19)
- [04:55:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 30,688 frames
- Bitrate: 13,672 Kbs
- [04:55:24] Reencoding: VID_00529, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:16:47] Reencoding: VID_00529, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:39:10] Video Encode complete
- [05:39:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [05:39:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:41:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00538]
- [05:42:46] Reencoding: VID_00538 (17 of 19)
- [05:42:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 30,843 frames
- Bitrate: 13,827 Kbs
- [05:42:46] Reencoding: VID_00538, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:03:58] Reencoding: VID_00538, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:26:58] Video Encode complete
- [06:26:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [06:27:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [06:28:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00535]
- [06:31:05] Reencoding: VID_00535 (18 of 19)
- [06:31:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 36,388 frames
- Bitrate: 13,956 Kbs
- [06:31:05] Reencoding: VID_00535, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:56:50] Reencoding: VID_00535, Pass 2 of 2
- [07:23:32] Video Encode complete
- [07:23:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:24:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:25:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00527]
- [07:28:08] Reencoding: VID_00527 (19 of 19)
- [07:28:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 41,230 frames
- Bitrate: 14,326 Kbs
- [07:28:08] Reencoding: VID_00527, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:56:38] Reencoding: VID_00527, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:27:35] Video Encode complete
- [08:27:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:28:58] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:32:13]PHASE ONE complete
[08:32:13]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:32:13] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:32:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[08:33:01]JOB: APOCALYPSE_NOW finished.
- [08:33:15] ScanDirectory() 00005 2408

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 20:23
@TheBreen

I would also recommend you uninstall FFDSHOW and reinstall it. Then rerun the job immediately thereafter. That way if something else has stolen the action, it should be set back to FFDSHOW for the encode. If that doesn't work, try it with LAVF and see if you get the same results. LAVF uses a different decoder.

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 20:25
Just noticed if in audio setup I select "Limit to one track for each language", no audio tracks are selected for the Blu-ray Salt, even though there are 9 english tracks listed. Possible reason is the DTS Express (2nd) is listed first in the tree view list. :confused:
If I remove the Limit to one track, then eight of the nine are kept, of course except the DTS Express track.
Since this is a multi-m2ts Blu-ray, with three seperate versions of the movie to choose from, it requires many deselections of the audio tracks that are unwanted, and for the 20+ m2ts per version it is quite time consuming and requires checking every title to make sure all selections are the same and match each other! :(
Since it appears more titles are being released that are multi-m2ts, a simpler audio setup for these type movies will be very welcome. :) I got the same results as you with the audio selections on SALT. I'll look at it today. Unusual that the DTS Express track was first on the list -- odds are that's related to the issue somehow.

Ch3vr0n
21st December 2010, 20:26
There's an error in 36.07. It doesnt matter if i insert a disc or an anydvd ripped BD Folder. I keep getting "not a bd structure". see images. If i open the same folder in 36.06 it scans completely. BTW love that you addedmy ? suggestion and will display total project duration

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/687/bdrberror1.png
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6851/bdrberror2.png
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3833/bdfolder.th.png (http://img715.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdfolder.png)
chose a tumbnail here as image to not mess up topic layout. image size is 1920*1200

jdobbs
21st December 2010, 20:27
There's an error in 36.07. It doesnt matter if i insert a disc or an anydvd ripped BD Folder. I keep getting "not a bd structure". see images. If i open the same folder in 36.06 it scans completely. BTW love that you addedmy ? suggestion and will display total project duration

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/687/bdrberror1.png
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6851/bdrberror2.png
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3833/bdfolder.th.png (http://img715.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdfolder.png)
chose a tumbnail here as image to not mess up topic layout. image size is 1920*1200 Weird... I've been using it for several days with no issues at all. In fact I'm running SALT with it right now. Anything unusual about your setup? Try deleting the BDREBUILDER.INI file and see if it changes.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Ch3vr0n
21st December 2010, 20:36
nothin changed. Just replaced all files from the archive. Deleting the ini file still gave the error. deleted " --" from the source folder name, moved it to root of the drive. Still the error. Deleted entire bdrb folder (but moved bdrebuilder.ini file first), redownloaded, extracted, tried a couple diff discs & folders. its only 36.07 that gives the error

** edit ** if i right click in the blank frame after dismissing the error dialogues i get this

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3158/bdrberror3.png

the only thing i see differently on first look is that in the 36.07 .ini the version is added below [options] this is not the case in 36.06. The weird thing is that after 36.07 errors, it DOES list "approximate source content [duration time here]"

Below my ini from 36.06 and 36.07

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.7
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUTO_BURN=2

[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
IMGBURN_TARGET_DEVICE=e:
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
OPEN_GOP=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
USE_FILTERS=0
USE_LAVF=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
VERSION=0.36.0.6
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\
SOURCE_PATH=Y:\BLU-RAY\FULL DISC RIPS\SORCERERS_APPRENTICE\

longtom
21st December 2010, 22:02
with .07 i get following error when i want to shrink a bd (previously ripped with bdrebuilder .06 movie only) to dvd5:

12.21.10 [21:55:51] ScanDirectory() 00013 2601

with .06 it is working fine!

longtom
21st December 2010, 22:03
Weird... I've been using it for several days with no issues at all. In fact I'm running SALT with it right now. Anything unusual about your setup? Try deleting the BDREBUILDER.INI file and see if it changes.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Same issue, new installation of .07 (see previous post).
.06 runs fine!

Capsbackup
21st December 2010, 22:18
I just completed a backup with BD-RBV03607 and it worked perfectly here. (Full backup)

klas
21st December 2010, 23:18
Same issue, new installation of .07 (see previous post).
.06 runs fine!

The same of 0,7

Regards

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 00:27
There's an error in 36.07. It doesnt matter if i insert a disc or an anydvd ripped BD Folder. I keep getting "not a bd structure". see images. If i open the same folder in 36.06 it scans completely. BTW love that you addedmy ? suggestion and will display total project duration

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/687/bdrberror1.png
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chose a tumbnail here as image to not mess up topic layout. image size is 1920*1200 I think I found what the problem is... but I can't for the life of me figure why I'm not getting it too?????

Capsbackup
22nd December 2010, 00:31
Not only did this full backup to BD9 complete successfully, with no problems as a few above have reported, it plays back with the audio and subtitles correctly as well on both my Sony's, BX1 and S360! :)
Not sure if anything else has changed, certainly not my firmware for either drives, but I have been unable to make full disc backups to BD5/9 media if the original disc has PiP. Even though this disc has DTS Express secondary audio, and the PiP is not working when playing back that option, the three versions of the movie play back perfectly with sound and subtitles. :D

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 00:38
@Ch3vr0n, klas, and longtom

Try replacing your BD_Rebuilder.exe with the one in the attached link and see if it fixes the problem... I can see how it would be an issue -- but I can't seem to repeat it on my computers. Really weird.

http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RB_TEST_v03608.zip

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can post a fix. Thanks...

Gegette
22nd December 2010, 01:12
Hello.

I've had the same problem (= Ch3vr0n), and I tried your bd-rb_test_v03608.

I am pleased to inform you that it solves the problem !

:thanks:

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 01:18
Hello.

I've had the same problem (= Ch3vr0n), and I tried your bd-rb_test_v03608.

I am pleased to inform you that it solves the problem !

:thanks: Many thanks for the quick response. I'll post a new version!

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 01:23
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.09). Changes for this release:- Corrected a bug in v0.36.7 that could result in
"ScanDirectory() 00013 2601" error.
- Corrected an issue in which a non-selectable
audio stream in the first position of the streams
list in conjunction with "Limit to one track for
each language" might result in no audio being
selected by default.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Giljorak
22nd December 2010, 02:17
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.09). Changes for this release:- Corrected a bug in v0.36.7 that could result in
"ScanDirectory() 00013 2601" error.
- Corrected an issue in which a non-selectable
audio stream in the first position of the streams
list in conjunction with "Limit to one track for
each language" might result in no audio being
selected by default.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Thanks for the quick fix.

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 05:31
Thanks for the quick fix. I do what I can M1000. ;)

Ch3vr0n
22nd December 2010, 16:26
@jdobbs: sry i couldnt respond sooner but had the early shift at work so hit the sack at 22hrs. .08 fixed it for me aswell. Still fixed in 36.09. Care to explain what the bug was, or is it too technical ? :)

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 16:56
@jdobbs: sry i couldnt respond sooner but had the early shift at work so hit the sack at 22hrs. .08 fixed it for me aswell. Still fixed in 36.09. Care to explain what the bug was, or is it too technical ? :) No, actually it was very simple. I had declared a global variable to hold a new flag I created (to ignore SSIF folders in the directory scan), and I'd declared it as the wrong type.

The only interesting part is that it wasn't giving me an error when I was assigning an illegal value to it (logic says it should) -- but it was for others. That is really strange.

Ch3vr0n
22nd December 2010, 17:06
SSIF folder, sounds farmiliar. You don't happen to be working on a version that can strip 2D from 3D discs are ya :) Its weird indeed, if it was giving it for others, maybe something's wrong with your setup and not ours ^^ jk :)

jdobbs
22nd December 2010, 19:17
SSIF folder, sounds farmiliar. You don't happen to be working on a version that can strip 2D from 3D discs are ya :) Its weird indeed, if it was giving it for others, maybe something's wrong with your setup and not ours ^^ jk :) Yes, that's the intent of ignoring the SSIF. I figured I needed to start getting out ahead of the 3D bubble. By ignoring the SSIF you prevent yourself from counting the same file content twice when you are doing directory scans.

Ch3vr0n
22nd December 2010, 20:51
nice work. Can't wait to see that realised :) Keep up the good stuff :)

UsualNoise
23rd December 2010, 01:01
Hi - just backed up a couple Blu-rays with BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 and they look fantastic. I noticed that there is no chapter information in the final BD folder, and I was wondering if I might be doing something incorrectly. I'm using the Beauty and the Beast recent release:

1) Copy disc to hard disk via AnyDVD
2) Use BD Rebuilder, Movie-Only mode, to create new movie-only BD folder on hard disk.

When I open the folder in MPC-HC I don't see any chapters. Further, if I use ImgBurn to create an ISO, mount that as a virtual drive, and open the drive in MPC-HC I still don't see any chapters. I'll post my settings if it helps at all:

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.6
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUTO_BIAS=2
TARGET_SIZE=4469
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=0

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 01:09
Hi - just backed up a couple Blu-rays with BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 and they look fantastic. I noticed that there is no chapter information in the final BD folder, and I was wondering if I might be doing something incorrectly. I'm using the Beauty and the Beast recent release:

1) Copy disc to hard disk via AnyDVD
2) Use BD Rebuilder, Movie-Only mode, to create new movie-only BD folder on hard disk.

When I open the folder in MPC-HC I don't see any chapters. Further, if I use ImgBurn to create an ISO, mount that as a virtual drive, and open the drive in MPC-HC I still don't see any chapters. I'll post my settings if it helps at all:

Not sure what you mean by "no chapter information in the final BD folder". Chapter information is contained within the .MPLS file(s). BD Rebuilder examines the original MPLS before encoding and passes information to X264 to appropriate points are set during encoding so that chapters are frame accurate. In movie-only mode you will see the chapter points by examining the final movie-only .META file that BD-RB generates for use by TSMUXER.

I do movie-only encodes all the time -- and they are very definitely there (and match the original). The only way I could see a movie-only encode occuring without chapters would be if the original had none. The only time I've ever seen that happen is when there was some preprocessing (editing) going on.

I'm running a movie-only backup of "SALT" now just to ensure nothing has regressed.

UsualNoise
23rd December 2010, 01:14
Not sure what you mean by "no chapter information in the final BD folder". Chapter information is contained within the .MPLS file(s). BD Rebuilder examines the MPLS before encoding and ensures appropriate points are set during encoding so that chapters are frame accurate.

OK, perhaps I'm not using the optimal software for playback. Doing some quick searching it looks like MPC-HC does not properly handle the chapter info in a .mpls file(s).

I tried using MakeMKV to produce a single .mkv file (it purports to keep the chapter info) but still can't use chapter navigation. Ah well, I'll live with the chapters for now. Thanks for the great piece of software.

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 02:31
OK, perhaps I'm not using the optimal software for playback. Doing some quick searching it looks like MPC-HC does not properly handle the chapter info in a .mpls file(s).

I tried using MakeMKV to produce a single .mkv file (it purports to keep the chapter info) but still can't use chapter navigation. Ah well, I'll live with the chapters for now. Thanks for the great piece of software. MKV output currently doesn't get chapters added. That's on my to-do list.

TheBreen
23rd December 2010, 07:49
Hi again. Just to report back: when I retried Sound of Music with LAVF it worked fine.

omegaman7
23rd December 2010, 07:55
I did a full backup of the new movie "Salt" with the new .36.0.9 at fastest settings, and all went well. Quality looks good, and it finished in under 4 hours.
Well...almost all went well. I got that "wavi.exe has stopped working" error twice. At least It was early on in the encoding process ;) Thankfully it wasn't the second job in a batch process ;)

I might have been told this before, but now I've discovered it for myself. "Keep HD audio" seems to put a stop to the "wavi.exe has stopped working" error.
Gotta love a search engine LOL! ;)

Priapismic
23rd December 2010, 12:23
I did a full backup of the new movie "Salt" with the new .36.0.9 at fastest settings, and all went well. Quality looks good, and it finished in under 4 hours.
Well...almost all went well. I got that "wavi.exe has stopped working" error twice. At least It was early on in the encoding process ;) Thankfully it wasn't the second job in a batch process ;)

I might have been told this before, but now I've discovered it for myself. "Keep HD audio" seems to put a stop to the "wavi.exe has stopped working" error.
Gotta love a search engine LOL! ;)
To end the wavi.exe errors:
Open ffdshow Video Decoder Configuration,
Then, under DirectShow Control click the "edit" button next to "use ffdshow only in", and type in wavi.exe.

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 17:53
Hi again. Just to report back: when I retried Sound of Music with LAVF it worked fine.Did you also try reinstalling FFDSHOW? I think that probably would have fixed it as well.

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 17:57
I did a full backup of the new movie "Salt" with the new .36.0.9 at fastest settings, and all went well. Quality looks good, and it finished in under 4 hours.
Well...almost all went well. I got that "wavi.exe has stopped working" error twice. At least It was early on in the encoding process ;) Thankfully it wasn't the second job in a batch process ;)

I might have been told this before, but now I've discovered it for myself. "Keep HD audio" seems to put a stop to the "wavi.exe has stopped working" error.
Gotta love a search engine LOL! ;) "Keep HD audio" has not effect at all on BD-5/9 backups -- and when you keep HD audio you are also sacrificing video quality. The better solution is to report the circumstances when you get the "wavi" error and let me fix it. I've done a couple thousand backups and have never even seen it.

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 18:04
To end the wavi.exe errors:
Open ffdshow Video Decoder Configuration,
Then, under DirectShow Control click the "edit" button next to "use ffdshow only in", and type in wavi.exe.Really? I would have thought you'd have to do it to "Audio Decoder Config" config since WAVI only works with audio. Hmmm... maybe I'll set that automatically.

L4a-Thompson
23rd December 2010, 18:08
hello,
if i use the alternative output option DL DVD 720x576

and the source has 24000/1001 fps, the video stream was asynchronous with the audio streams.

i like this option because there is no other tool wich gives this quality.

i hope you can fix this problem and implement the subtitle option too.

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 18:15
hello,
if i use the alternative output option DL DVD 720x576

and the source has 24000/1001 fps, the video stream was asynchronous with the audio streams.

i like this option because there is no other tool wich gives this quality.

i hope you can fix this problem and implement the subtitle option too. Did it just happen on a particular source? Has it worked successfully on others? Do you have "Assume PAL for DVD output" selected in the SETUP dialog?

L4a-Thompson
23rd December 2010, 18:23
i tryed this option with three diffrent sources and and all has the same error.
the option assume pal for dvd output was selected.

here is my ini

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.9
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AVSFilter01=LoadPlugin("D:\+++\asharp.dll")
AVSFilter02=asharp(2,3,1.3,hqbf=true)
AVSFilter03=tweak(sat=1.09)
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
AUTO_BIAS=2
MKV_INTERMEDIATE=1
SHOW_ENCODER=0
HC_PROFILE=BEST
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=2
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\+++\DESKTOP\AVCHD\

Priapismic
23rd December 2010, 18:45
Really? I would have thought you'd have to do it to "Audio Decoder Config" config since WAVI only works with audio. Hmmm... maybe I'll set that automatically.I thought that at first also. Then I noticed that the ffdshow audio and video config ("use ffdshow only in") files are identical. I assume they do this to avoid registry problems.

omegaman7
23rd December 2010, 19:35
"Keep HD audio" has not effect at all on BD-5/9 backups -- and when you keep HD audio you are also sacrificing video quality. The better solution is to report the circumstances when you get the "wavi" error and let me fix it. I've done a couple thousand backups and have never even seen it.

You're quite fortunate to never see this error. Especially if you're running batch mode. Quite frankly I could care less about the HD audio. I'm just as content with AC3 5.1. But if when doing BD-25 backups this solves the issue, that's what I'll do for the time being. Although you want to see the errors. So I'll post them.

Give me some time to recreate the circumstances ;)

Cupidjones
23rd December 2010, 21:53
Any ideas on this one? Thanks

-----------------------
[14:39:53] BD Rebuilder v0.36.09 (beta)
- Source: TZ_4
- Input BD size: 34.05 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:35:12.642]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:39:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [14:39:59] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 10)
- [14:39:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 722 frames
- Bitrate: 16,896 Kbs
- [14:39:59] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:40:26] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:40:57] Video Encode complete
- [14:40:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:40:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:41:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [14:41:08] Reencoding: VID_00019 (2 of 10)
- [14:41:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 722 frames
- Bitrate: 16,897 Kbs
- [14:41:08] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:41:36] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 2 of 2
- [14:42:07] Video Encode complete
- [14:42:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:42:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:42:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (65504 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[14:42:16] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

omegaman7
23rd December 2010, 22:18
Jdobbs. Exactly what info will help you in determining the problem with the "wavi.exe"?
The error does not show in the log you see...The best I can do is tell you the exact time that the error occurs with the log. Do you require Inspect, ini, etc?
Man, I have an even weirder problem now. "The Other Guys" backed up with only Spanish audio. One problem at a time though eh LOL!

jdobbs
23rd December 2010, 22:29
@CupidJones

Is this an original disc? That error is almost always an indicator of either a bad rip or preprocessing.

Cupidjones
24th December 2010, 00:05
I had read that, so I deleted and reripped using DVD Fab passkey and same results. It is Twilight Zone season 1 disc 4. All others had no issues.

HWK
24th December 2010, 05:11
What program did you used to rip the disc first time around.

Cupidjones
24th December 2010, 05:30
Both times DVDFab Passkey

HWK
24th December 2010, 05:42
Both times DVDFab Passkey

That may be the problem try different program and see what happens.

Hint: In some occasion Jdobbs have said anydvd does better job than dvdfab. If you search current forum then you would likely to find example of this occurrence.

omegaman7
24th December 2010, 07:44
I hate to seem like a fanboy, but anydvd has wayyyy less bugs than Dvd fab. I generally only use DvdFab if I want to change the playback order. E.g. jump to main title first. And that doesn't always work. Especially with the disney movies :( I really should learn how to use PGCedit. But given Dvd's Days are numbered... ;)

I reran "The Other Guys" and DID NOT check "keep HD audio". This time I have english audio. Weird...

setarip_old
24th December 2010, 10:01
@Cupidjones

Hi!

Is this an original disc?

(See post #10623)

L4a-Thompson
24th December 2010, 10:08
i tryed the dl dvd 720x576 alternative output again.
the thource file was 1hour and 40min.
the encodet file was 1hour and 30min but the audio file wich was merge has the original length.

e get the assyncronous error again.
the option assume pal for dvd was selected.

what i have to do to get the same length like the video stream by the audio streams?

dlarge
24th December 2010, 13:30
Hi jdobbs,

i worked with the BD Rebuilder very long and i think this is the best Tool for BD Encoding.

I have make under my Mac with VMWare a Virtuall HDD with Windows7 installed but if i will open a BD Structur Folder in BD Rebuilder i see a Warning "Selected Source is not BD format".

My ripped BluRays are stored on the other HDD and i have inserted in in the Virtual Machine as Networkadress.

I have tested this with other Tools like DVDFab and BDtoAVCHD and and this worked fine with this Tools.

Please can you fixed this issue if i can load Files from Networkadresses.:thanks:

jdobbs
24th December 2010, 14:45
i tryed the dl dvd 720x576 alternative output again.
the thource file was 1hour and 40min.
the encodet file was 1hour and 30min but the audio file wich was merge has the original length.

e get the assyncronous error again.
the option assume pal for dvd was selected.

what i have to do to get the same length like the video stream by the audio streams? I don't know. I've done several 720x576 DVD-5/9 encodes in testing after your post. There was a bug I found in that the output is too large for a DVD (I've fixed that) -- but the audio has been in perfect sync every time. Are you using any filters?

jdobbs
24th December 2010, 14:47
Hi jdobbs,

i worked with the BD Rebuilder very long and i think this is the best Tool for BD Encoding.

I have make under my Mac with VMWare a Virtuall HDD with Windows7 installed but if i will open a BD Structur Folder in BD Rebuilder i see a Warning "Selected Source is not BD format".

My ripped BluRays are stored on the other HDD and i have inserted in in the Virtual Machine as Networkadress.

I have tested this with other Tools like DVDFab and BDtoAVCHD and and this worked fine with this Tools.

Please can you fixed this issue if i can load Files from Networkadresses.:thanks: Sorry, I don't speak Mac (and don't plan to learn). But I use PC networking all the time and it works.

LowDead
25th December 2010, 01:11
Just sent a little something your way :)

Thanks for all your hard work!

I wish you and your family a great christmas :)

/LD

jdobbs
25th December 2010, 03:27
Just sent a little something your way :)

Thanks for all your hard work!

I wish you and your family a great christmas :)

/LD My sincere thanks! Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year my friend. :thanks:

dpa34
25th December 2010, 06:06
Do you need to apply the Avc Hd patch for a blu ray created with Bd rebuilder to play on a ps3 ? I ask this as I have been doing that and it plays on my Ps3, but seems to get stuck and not play on my Dad's Panasonic Blu ray player, its works up to the menu selection and freezes after you click play. any idea's or thought ?

Thanks

L4a-Thompson
25th December 2010, 11:52
i use this two avisynth filters

AVSFilter01=LoadPlugin("D:\Stuff\Programme\Progs\Video Bearbeitung\DVD2AVI\StaxRip_1.1.6\Applications\AviSynth plugins\asharp.dll")
AVSFilter02=asharp(2,3,1.3,hqbf=true)
AVSFilter03=tweak(sat=1.09)

can you add the subtitle funktion for the dvd output?

i tryed another source, now from the bluray disk and the output dvd was all right.
the errors i get if i use an bd image from the hdd

ps.: merry christmas for all of you

torque2k
26th December 2010, 04:21
Hello, all.

Just started using 0.36.06 last week with my new LG BR burner, love it. However, I have two issues.

1) When I right-click on a clip in the GUI, MPC opens and says "Opening..." but takes three minutes to open the file and play it. It finally does, but if I hit play again, the app locks up for three minutes again. If I open any of the clips from the rip directly from within MPC, no lag issues at all, only when coming from the GUI in BD-Rebuilder. I tried 0.36.09 tonight, same thing. My system is running Win 7 64-bit, internal SATA 1TB Hitachi drive (data only), and I tried an external FireWire enclosure as well, same thing.

2) When I try to do a BD-9, I'd like for ImgBurn to burn to the blank DL disc sitting in the burner. However, I get an error about a timeout. When I actually watch ImgBurn doing this, it'll hang on the burn for at least 30 minutes (by then I just kill it). It never burns, though, so I don't get a coaster. So I've started just making an ISO from BD-Rebuilder. That should then burn in ImgBurn after the fact, correct? However, it doesn't seem to want to burn as a playable BD disc, only as a DATA DISC (as shown in PS3). Does this mean that ISOs, when created through BD-Rebuilder/ImgBurn, are not passing the info to ImgBurn to use the correct formatting (like UDF 2.50, or whatever's needed to get the disc to play in a BR player)?

Otherwise, if I just leave the folder and don't post-process, I can pull the folder into ImgBurn and manually burn and get a playable BD-9 disc. And to that, I say, absolutely wonderful. Thanks for the hard work you've done for us, jdobbs!

The_Unknown
26th December 2010, 12:28
At first: Merry christmas to all of you guys!! :)

I have a little problem concerning shrinking Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Ultimate Edition). As you might know, in the ultimate edition there are additional scenes. In these scenes the audio-track is not the speaking of the actors anymore but the menu background music :confused: When the additional scene is over and the next (normal) scene starts, the audio is ok again.

I selected the only German track in the additional scenes.

Do you have any ideas concerning that issue? :(

Sharc
27th December 2010, 16:17
I'm assuming the filter works correctly. The AVISYNTH page even has an example for converting audio from FILM to PAL. It has a "TEMPO" parameter designed for changing length without affecting pitch. I'll have to dig up some PAL video and run some tests.
Why would you need a PAL source? The issue is relevant for blu-ray to DVD PAL conversion (alternate output), so any blu-ray source@23.976 will do.

jdobbs
27th December 2010, 17:01
Why would you need a PAL source? The issue is relevant for blu-ray to DVD PAL conversion (alternate output), so any blu-ray source@23.976 will do. Yeah, I wasn't thinking when I said that.

jdobbs
27th December 2010, 17:03
At first: Merry christmas to all of you guys!! :)

I have a little problem concerning shrinking Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (Ultimate Edition). As you might know, in the ultimate edition there are additional scenes. In these scenes the audio-track is not the speaking of the actors anymore but the menu background music :confused: When the additional scene is over and the next (normal) scene starts, the audio is ok again.

I selected the only German track in the additional scenes.

Do you have any ideas concerning that issue? :( Try choosing a different playlist.

jdobbs
27th December 2010, 17:10
Hello, all.

Just started using 0.36.06 last week with my new LG BR burner, love it. However, I have two issues.

1) When I right-click on a clip in the GUI, MPC opens and says "Opening..." but takes three minutes to open the file and play it. It finally does, but if I hit play again, the app locks up for three minutes again. If I open any of the clips from the rip directly from within MPC, no lag issues at all, only when coming from the GUI in BD-Rebuilder. I tried 0.36.09 tonight, same thing. My system is running Win 7 64-bit, internal SATA 1TB Hitachi drive (data only), and I tried an external FireWire enclosure as well, same thing.

2) When I try to do a BD-9, I'd like for ImgBurn to burn to the blank DL disc sitting in the burner. However, I get an error about a timeout. When I actually watch ImgBurn doing this, it'll hang on the burn for at least 30 minutes (by then I just kill it). It never burns, though, so I don't get a coaster. So I've started just making an ISO from BD-Rebuilder. That should then burn in ImgBurn after the fact, correct? However, it doesn't seem to want to burn as a playable BD disc, only as a DATA DISC (as shown in PS3). Does this mean that ISOs, when created through BD-Rebuilder/ImgBurn, are not passing the info to ImgBurn to use the correct formatting (like UDF 2.50, or whatever's needed to get the disc to play in a BR player)?

Otherwise, if I just leave the folder and don't post-process, I can pull the folder into ImgBurn and manually burn and get a playable BD-9 disc. And to that, I say, absolutely wonderful. Thanks for the hard work you've done for us, jdobbs!
1. On my system it takes about 3 seconds for MPC to open and the video to play.

2. I'm using IMGBURN v2.5.1.0 and I'm experiencing none of what you are describing, and I use it every day. You might want to try downgrading and see if it is something in newer versions.

Honestly it sounds like you may be having issues with your system -- as there's really no link between MPC and IMGBURN, and you're experiencing problems with both. It's hard to diagnose from here -- but hard drive issues, maybe? Weird to be sure.

The_Unknown
27th December 2010, 18:19
Try choosing a different playlist.
How can I change a playlist? Isn't that done by BD RB itself?

jdobbs
27th December 2010, 18:48
How can I change a playlist? Isn't that done by BD RB itself? Yes, but it can only make an educated guess as to which playlist is the feature. It's right 99.9% of the time... I've only seen one where it picks the wrong one. You can choose another by selecting "Other movie-only playlist" from the MODE menu. Of course this only applies to a movie-only backups.

Another possibility is if you have manually changed the audio selections in a full backup -- but haven't done the same selections for all members of a playlist. I'm making a change for the next release to force any changes to ripple through an entire playlist.

Capsbackup
27th December 2010, 19:54
I'm making a change for the next release to force any changes to ripple through an entire playlist.

A very welcome addition/change! :)

I'm a few days late, but congrats on your recent passing of the two years since BD-RB's first release. :cool:
A big :thanks: and another donation coming your way! :D

carland
28th December 2010, 02:03
Hello, I used the rebuilder for the Avatar and what happens to me is that PAUSE on 24 minutes, this hapens too for the film the A Team after just four minutes PAUSE too.
Can you tell me why if this happens? I made the movies with the last version of rebuilder and use image burn my media is bd-r 25 sony. and my player is bd390 lg.

this just happen when I rebuilde movies with 44gigas or more, the movies with 30gigas or less are fine.


thanks :thanks: Carlos

IVaN_000
28th December 2010, 02:27
I guess the option "Quicker encode for extras" implies shorter encoding time and less quality in extras. Does it also mean smaller size of extras?

My question would be: By selecting that option, will I get better quality in the main movie, or just faster encoding time in the extras?

jdobbs
28th December 2010, 15:39
Hello, I used the rebuilder for the Avatar and what happens to me is that PAUSE on 24 minutes, this hapens too for the film the A Team after just four minutes PAUSE too.
Can you tell me why if this happens? I made the movies with the last version of rebuilder and use image burn my media is bd-r 25 sony. and my player is bd390 lg.

this just happen when I rebuilde movies with 44gigas or more, the movies with 30gigas or less are fine.


thanks :thanks: Carlos No idea. But it's very probably something on your end, either in the player, the media, or something in your processing -- if it were within BD Rebuilder it would be happening everywhere. On the other hand, with no view into your settings, etc, anything I'd say would be a wild guess.

I've done Avatar and A-Team with no issues.

jdobbs
28th December 2010, 15:46
I guess the option "Quicker encode for extras" implies shorter encoding time and less quality in extras. Does it also mean smaller size of extras?

My question would be: By selecting that option, will I get better quality in the main movie, or just faster encoding time in the extras? Faster, yes. But since it's doing a one-pass CRF encode the size/quality depends on the source and the CRF value being used. By default it is 22 for BD-25, 25 for BD-9, and 30 for BD-5. A fixed CRF can be set by adding "QUICK_CRF=nn" to the config file.

torque2k
28th December 2010, 17:47
1. On my system it takes about 3 seconds for MPC to open and the video to play.

2. I'm using IMGBURN v2.5.1.0 and I'm experiencing none of what you are describing, and I use it every day. You might want to try downgrading and see if it is something in newer versions.

Honestly it sounds like you may be having issues with your system -- as there's really no link between MPC and IMGBURN, and you're experiencing problems with both. It's hard to diagnose from here -- but hard drive issues, maybe? Weird to be sure.
Seems odd that calling a video from within MPC exhibits no problems, but calling the same clip from within BD-Rebuilder THRU MPC has the halting issue...

I just switched to a 250GB IDE drive last night for testing, same issue. That would seem to rule out drivers, as it's IDE at this point, not SATA like the 1TB drive. I'll try upgrading the main chipset drivers, see if that makes a diff.

Is there a way to call something else within BD-Rebuilder, like VLC? Then I could test further.

I'm using ImgBurn 2.5.4.0, so a bit newer than what you're using. I'll see if I can snag the 2.5.1.0 version and downgrade. Funny, though, yesterday I tried to burn two ISOs I had prepared in BD-Rebuilder; one burned fine, the other did the same thing (shows as Data Disc on my PS3). It seems completely random.

Thanks again for your help.

jdobbs
28th December 2010, 18:39
Seems odd that calling a video from within MPC exhibits no problems, but calling the same clip from within BD-Rebuilder THRU MPC has the halting issue...

I just switched to a 250GB IDE drive last night for testing, same issue. That would seem to rule out drivers, as it's IDE at this point, not SATA like the 1TB drive. I'll try upgrading the main chipset drivers, see if that makes a diff.

Is there a way to call something else within BD-Rebuilder, like VLC? Then I could test further.

I'm using ImgBurn 2.5.4.0, so a bit newer than what you're using. I'll see if I can snag the 2.5.1.0 version and downgrade. Funny, though, yesterday I tried to burn two ISOs I had prepared in BD-Rebuilder; one burned fine, the other did the same thing (shows as Data Disc on my PS3). It seems completely random.

Thanks again for your help. How are you set for memory? That's the only thing I can think of that would be different between a direct open and doing the same thing from within BD-RB.

Another possibility is that the priority would be "Idle" (the default) when it is called from BD-RB, so if you have other things going MPC would be getting only the leftover CPU time -- especially if there is an Antivirus scan occuring. On that note -- try disabling your antivirus and see if it is doing checks that are causing the delay... now that I think of it, that's probably a good place to start, antivirus software just loves to interfere when one program calls another.

RichardB
28th December 2010, 18:59
Hi J Dobbs and friends,

Recently, I noticed that I neglected to set "Uncompressed" to "All Supported" in the Audio Decoder Configuration of FFDSHOW.

How exactly will this affect all the backup copies I have already made?

Does this mean that all my BD-25 re-encoded discs will not really contain the "HD" Audio, even if that box was checked in the Setup Menu of BDR?

Thanks, and Happy New Year,

Richard

jdobbs
28th December 2010, 22:07
Hi J Dobbs and friends,

Recently, I noticed that I neglected to set "Uncompressed" to "All Supported" in the Audio Decoder Configuration of FFDSHOW.

How exactly will this affect all the backup copies I have already made?

Does this mean that all my BD-25 re-encoded discs will not really contain the "HD" Audio, even if that box was checked in the Setup Menu of BDR?

Thanks, and Happy New Year,

Richard No affect at all. It's mainly there for playback in MPC. If you couldn't decode properly at the time of encode, BD-RB would have failed and exited.

colinhunt
29th December 2010, 11:58
jdobbs, have you by any chance tested the US version of Grindhouse? It contains two movies, 00004.M2TS and 00009.M2TS. Doing a movie-only backup of the first one goes through without problems, but the latter one throws a wobble:

[19:24:26] BD Rebuilder v0.36.09 (beta)
- Source: (BD42)_GRINDHOUSE
- Input BD size: 21,59 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:40:04.915]
- Target BD size: 23,49 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
- Audio [1] set to default.
[19:24:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:24:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- Extracting video streams [VID_00009]
- Extracting audio streams [VID_00009]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps.
File name: Z:\VIDEOS\HD\(BD42) GRINDHOUSE\BDMV\STREAM\00009.M2TS
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps.
File name: Z:\VIDEOS\HD\(BD42) GRINDHOUSE\BDMV\STREAM\00009.M2TS
[19:39:31] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

jdobbs
29th December 2010, 14:55
I haven't tested that one. I'll see if I can find it. But that kind of error is typically an indicator of a bad rip.

Capsbackup
29th December 2010, 16:27
@colinhunt;
since the input size is less than the desired output size, thus no reencoding is necessary, have you tried just burning this original to a BD-R/RE?
Perhaps try deleting the BD-RB ini and start with a fresh one, just in case some settings are incompatible.
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
- Audio [1] set to default.
I have not seen this setting before. :confused: Looks like it could be a tsMuxeR demux issue.

jdobbs
29th December 2010, 16:55
- Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
- Audio [1] set to default.
Those just mean that they were selected (with a right-click) in the streams list.

Capsbackup
29th December 2010, 17:28
Those just mean that they were selected (with a right-click) in the streams list.

Learn something new! Thanks :p

DarWun
29th December 2010, 22:54
I haven't tested that one. I'll see if I can find it. But that kind of error is typically an indicator of a bad rip.

I don't think it is a bad rip. I had the same issue. For some reason this error occurs if the english commentary track for the second movie is included in the backup. Somebody else posted about it a while back in this forum. This is the post:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1454385&postcount=9988

omegaman7
30th December 2010, 01:08
Just did "Knight and Day" Jdobbs, you might reconsider automatic quality settings. Knight and Day's original disc was only 28.7Gb. Not a whole lot of compression needed here for BD-25, and yet the program decided 'Good' - very fast setting. The dark scenery (e.g. Black suits) looked a little rough. Depending on the display used no doubt. A plasma would probably not notice this. I'll now be running it through on better settings.

And two other things I noticed is that there are 5 seconds missing from the original rip. Not sure where it went yet. And the output is 21.7Gb, where it usually averages 22.8Gb. That's 1.1Gb! Isn't that kind of extreme? I hate to seem like I'm nitpicking, but this seems like relevant information you like to hear ;)

torque2k
30th December 2010, 01:17
How are you set for memory? That's the only thing I can think of that would be different between a direct open and doing the same thing from within BD-RB.
8GB of ECC RAM (using an HP xw6200 with dual 3.8GHz Xeon CPUs)

Another possibility is that the priority would be "Idle" (the default) when it is called from BD-RB, so if you have other things going MPC would be getting only the leftover CPU time -- especially if there is an Antivirus scan occuring. On that note -- try disabling your antivirus and see if it is doing checks that are causing the delay... now that I think of it, that's probably a good place to start, antivirus software just loves to interfere when one program calls another.
Will try that tonight; sounds VERY plausible. I'm using MSE (not the latest 2.0 version yet).

IVaN_000
30th December 2010, 01:51
8GB of ECC RAM (using an HP xw6200 with dual 3.8GHz Xeon CPUs)

I'd consider upgrading to 16GB :D

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 02:03
I'd consider upgrading to 16GB :D BD-RB works fine with 4GB. I'm running on 8GB as well.

Capsbackup
30th December 2010, 02:41
BD-RB works fine with 4GB. I'm running on 8GB as well.

I have only 3 GB of triple channel memory only running at 1066Ghz with my I7 920 at the stock 2.67Ghz, with no problems here. :cool:

omegaman7
30th December 2010, 09:56
I've had both 4gb and 8Gb in my secondary system(which is where I run BD rebuilder), Ram really isn't that crucial for BD rebuilder. I imagine 1 - 2Gb is ample(Depending on the O.S.).
My second encode of Knight And Day is complete. Output size unchanged at 21.7Gb. However, the video quality has been drastically improved. I will probably stick with Default High Quality settings in the future, unless a lot of compression is needed. "Good: very fast" setting should not be done/used lightly. In my opinion anyway. Blacks are simply to greatly effected, if care is not taken. I am rather critical though... :p

colinhunt
30th December 2010, 11:51
@colinhunt;
since the input size is less than the desired output size, thus no reencoding is necessary, have you tried just burning this original to a BD-R/RE?
The original is 42GB and contains two movies, Death Proof and Planet Terror. But yeah, I guess I could drop the problematic M2TS into tsremux and let it do a remux with output to Blu-ray.

update: tsmuxer 1.10.6 reports that the file contains unrecognized streams and removes the English 2-channel audio (commentary) from the mux. Mediainfo has no problem reporting specs of the file.

update2: TsRemux 0.0.21.2 opens the file without problems and lets me do a remux to Blu-ray. I also opened the disc into BDInfo v0.5.6 and noticed that the 00035.MPLS playlist containing 00009.m2ts shows the English 2-channel commentary audio as a hidden track.

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 15:16
I've had both 4gb and 8Gb in my secondary system(which is where I run BD rebuilder), Ram really isn't that crucial for BD rebuilder. I imagine 1 - 2Gb is ample(Depending on the O.S.).
My second encode of Knight And Day is complete. Output size unchanged at 21.7Gb. However, the video quality has been drastically improved. I will probably stick with Default High Quality settings in the future, unless a lot of compression is needed. "Good: very fast" setting should not be done/used lightly. In my opinion anyway. Blacks are simply to greatly effected, if care is not taken. I am rather critical though... :pI've done hundreds of discs using that setting and never had an issue. I believe there is something peculiar about "Knight and Day" -- I'll pick it up and see how it looks. What scene should I look at closely? Can you post your INF file so I can see the bitrates?

Capsbackup
30th December 2010, 15:28
I did Knight and Day to BD5, even kept some extras, so the total reencode time was approx. 2:25:00. Though unusually much for a BD5, I did do a two pass at default quality. I believe the main feature received about 3300kbps. The quality looked excellent on my 50" Samsung plasma, no apparent differences from the original, even in the high action scenes! :)

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 15:32
The original is 42GB and contains two movies, Death Proof and Planet Terror. But yeah, I guess I could drop the problematic M2TS into tsremux and let it do a remux with output to Blu-ray.

update: tsmuxer 1.10.6 reports that the file contains unrecognized streams and removes the English 2-channel audio (commentary) from the mux. Mediainfo has no problem reporting specs of the file.

update2: TsRemux 0.0.21.2 opens the file without problems and lets me do a remux to Blu-ray. I also opened the disc into BDInfo v0.5.6 and noticed that the 00035.MPLS playlist containing 00009.m2ts shows the English 2-channel commentary audio as a hidden track.
You could also set FORCE_NOENCODE=1 in the BD-RB INI and let it do the rebuild with no reecoding. So what is a "hidden track"? Something that isn't reported in the MPLS? Or is it a track that is muxed into the M2TS but isn't listed in the Program Stream Map?

Be careful when using old versions of TSMUXER -- earlier ones will create a corrupted CLPI file with a bad EP_MAP.

Capsbackup
30th December 2010, 16:15
Be careful when using old versions of TSMUXER -- earlier ones will create a corrupted CLPI file with a bad EP_MAP.

I think the reference is to "TsRemux 0.0.21.2".
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125447
An alternative but not nearly as useful as tsMuxeR. ;)

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 17:07
I think the reference is to "TsRemux 0.0.21.2".
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125447
An alternative but not nearly as useful as tsMuxeR. ;) Ahh... I guess sometimes you read what you are expecting instead of what is actually there -- it said TSREMUX and I saw TSMUXER.

Capsbackup
30th December 2010, 17:39
Ahh... I guess sometimes you read what you are expecting instead of what is actually there -- it said TSREMUX and I saw TSMUXER.

Happens with me too! :p
Interesting that TSREMUX can demux IGS streams, but does not allow for remux. :(
Also displays secondary PiP audio, but does not allow demux.

colinhunt
30th December 2010, 18:05
You could also set FORCE_NOENCODE=1 in the BD-RB INI and let it do the rebuild with no reecoding. So what is a "hidden track"? Something that isn't reported in the MPLS? Or is it a track that is muxed into the M2TS but isn't listed in the Program Stream Map?
Seems to be a case of peculiar authoring. Planet Terror has a "commentary" track (an audience reaction track, to be more precise) but there's no commentary listed anywhere in the menus for Death Proof (00009.m2ts). I guess that's why the track has been marked as hidden. Weird stuff.

laserfan
30th December 2010, 19:03
I tried BDRB last night and this morning found a blue screen on my PC having to do with a Power driver. It appears that the PC tried to enter Sleep mode while BDRB was running and suffered a crash--I know how to avoid this for the future, but am surprised that BDRB does not tell the PC it's working? Running W7 OS 64bit here, and I usually run x264 "by hand" whereby I have to issue "powercfg -change -standby-timeout-ac 0" to keep it from going to sleep while encoding.

BTW it appears jdobbs that you addressed/fixed this way-back in May? Hmmm, I tried latest 36.09 here of course. I had manually selected Highest Quality and 1 Pass ABR encoding options, and the PC appears to have tried to Sleep while it was Reencoding:

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 19:48
Seems to be a case of peculiar authoring. Planet Terror has a "commentary" track (an audience reaction track, to be more precise) but there's no commentary listed anywhere in the menus for Death Proof (00009.m2ts). I guess that's why the track has been marked as hidden. Weird stuff.

Probably an easter egg of some sort.

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 19:49
I tried BDRB last night and this morning found a blue screen on my PC having to do with a Power driver. It appears that the PC tried to enter Sleep mode while BDRB was running and suffered a crash--I know how to avoid this for the future, but am surprised that BDRB does not tell the PC it's working? Running W7 OS 64bit here, and I usually run x264 "by hand" whereby I have to issue "powercfg -change -standby-timeout-ac 0" to keep it from going to sleep while encoding.

BTW it appears jdobbs that you addressed/fixed this way-back in May? Hmmm, I tried latest 36.09 here of course. I had manually selected Highest Quality and 1 Pass ABR encoding options, and the PC appears to have tried to Sleep while it was Reencoding: That's an issue with the PC, not BD-RB. A program shouldn't have to say "I'm running" to the O/S that is running it.

omegaman7
30th December 2010, 19:55
I did Knight and Day to BD5, even kept some extras, so the total reencode time was approx. 2:25:00. Though unusually much for a BD5, I did do a two pass at default quality. I believe the main feature received about 3300kbps. The quality looked excellent on my 50" Samsung plasma, no apparent differences from the original, even in the high action scenes! :)

Ahhh, but you went for default quality, which is what I now like. Plus Plasma screens have excellent blacks ;)

I'll be posting the inf soon Jdobbs. I have to rerun the job. I didn't think to save the original inf file. Shouldn't take more than 1.5 - 2hrs.

colinhunt
30th December 2010, 20:09
Probably an easter egg of some sort.
Deffo something wonky with this disc. "Scanning directory" phase takes at least 10x longer than other discs with same amount of content and playlists. I inserted FORCE_NOENCODE=1 into ini file and chose the problematic playlist. Extraction of video streams halted at 4.4%, BD-RB went non-responsive and Task Manager showed tsmuxer hogging memory at a rate of 1MB per second until it got to ~300MB, at which stage BD-RB came back to life and Current Progress bar started updating again. At the same time tsmuxer memory use dropped to 8MB. Extraction phase is at 70% now. ... OK, video stream extraction is done. Audio stream extraction halted at 6.2%, BD-RB is frozen and tsmuxer memory use has gone from 4MB to 180MB in moments. Now at 215MB... 240MB... and BD-RB stopped in the same error message as before, "Reading buffer overflow". I think I'll take a closer look at the 2nd English audio track.

Well, mystery solved. When you start Death Proof, the movie is preceded by three fake trailers. The commentary track is 155 seconds long and can be activated for the third trailer only. Why it messes up tsmuxer I have no idea.

setarip_old
30th December 2010, 20:20
@jdobbs

Hi! I believe there is something peculiar about "Knight and Day"The only exceptional things that I'm aware of regarding "Knight and Day" are that:

1) It is a Fox BD+ release

2) There's a 3 disc version as well as a single disc version

3) The additional extras on the 3 disc version are actually also on the single disc version, but are "hidden". (I believe Fox is doing this with virtually all of its recent/current releases that have single and multiple disc versions)

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 20:43
@jdobbs

Hi! The only exceptional things that I'm aware of regarding "Knight and Day" are that:

1) It is a Fox BD+ release

2) There's a 3 disc version as well as a single disc version

3) The additional extras on the 3 disc version are actually also on the single disc version, but are "hidden". (I believe Fox is doing this with virtually all of its recent/current releases that have single and multiple disc versions) I guess I'd better head out and pick it up. We've got a huge snowstorm coming in from the North -- and I may be locked-in for a couple days.

IVaN_000
30th December 2010, 22:12
I made a backup of Robin Hood with v0.36.09. To achieve the best picture quality I disabled "Automatic quality settings", and set "Highest (very slow)". Indeed, it took about 18 hours to complete in a quad core Athlon. Now the movie looks amazing, can't tell the difference from the original disc (it's about 46 GB). But some of the extras don't look fine, the trailers look like they got bad interlaced (you know, when you can see the horizontal lines, especially on moving scenes), and the 720x480 extras look very compressed. I won't process it again, but I would like to know what should I change in the settings to avoid that problem in the future. This is my .INI:

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=0

omegaman7
30th December 2010, 22:41
Jdobbs, here is the INF. It is very difficult to still image a comparison, so you're just gonna have to take my word for it. It's a shame Virtual dub doesn't like the M2TS files. At least my version...
There is definitely a substantial difference between original and encoded backup, in the dark scenes. A kind of red/blue/green glow effect. Not sure how else to explain this. From 53:23 - 53:40 is where I first noticed the visual problem.

And now I've ran yet another test LOL! I streamed the compressed version to my primary computer, and it looks fine(DVI). My secondary employs a VGA port(Same resolution of 1920 x 1200). But the original uncompressed plays just fine through VGA. My guess is, that the compressed color/dark values don't play nice with the VGA port, where as through DVI they do. Does this make sense? But my longer encode of Knight And Day plays fine over VGA. Because the color values are different? Well... here is the INF anyway(Fastest Settings). I think I've made an interesting discovery anyhow. And I'll no longer test my results on the secondary, until I have it running off a proper DVI port LOL!

colinhunt
30th December 2010, 22:49
A quick question: a BD has a movie in 1080i and at 29.97fps. I know it's originally shot on film at 23.976fps. How do I set BD-RB up to output 1080p23.976 from this source?

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 22:55
I made a backup of Robin Hood with v0.36.09. To achieve the best picture quality I disabled "Automatic quality settings", and set "Highest (very slow)". Indeed, it took about 18 hours to complete in a quad core Athlon. Now the movie looks amazing, can't tell the difference from the original disc (it's about 46 GB). But some of the extras don't look fine, the trailers look like they got bad interlaced (you know, when you can see the horizontal lines, especially on moving scenes), and the 720x480 extras look very compressed. I won't process it again, but I would like to know what should I change in the settings to avoid that problem in the future. This is my .INI:

[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=0 If you're seeing that, you're probably playing it back on a PC. Most PCs suck at playing back interlaced material. The chances are that those weren't even processed and look the same on the original... most small extras (like previews/trailers) are kept intact.

Next type you may want to try selecting "Use DECOMB on Interlaced Sources" -- it will smooth those jagged edges before encoding.

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 23:07
A quick question: a BD has a movie in 1080i and at 29.97fps. I know it's originally shot on film at 23.976fps. How do I set BD-RB up to output 1080p23.976 from this source? If it is telecined in a normal way, select "IVTC Sources with 3:2 pulldown" from the SETUP dialog and it will do it for you automatically.

If it is hard-telecined, then add IVTC_SELECTION=1 to your INI, and close/reopen BD-RB. Now you should be able to select "Inverse Telecine this item" by right clicking on it.

Be careful though. If it isn't truly telecined or hard-telecined it will really look terrible when you force IVTC on it. That's the reason I've made it so it is only available as a hidden option. I've run into only one movie that was 1080i at 29.97fps hard telecined -- that was "Time Bandits".

IVaN_000
30th December 2010, 23:09
If you're seeing that, you're probably playing it back on a PC. Most PCs suck at playing back interlaced material.

You're right, I'm playing it with TMT 3. But I still have the original ripped in my HD, and if I play it with the same software, the untouched source looks correct.

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 23:13
You're right, I'm playing it with TMT 3. But I still have the original ripped in my HD, and if I play it with the same software, the untouched source looks correct. That's probably because you are using a different codec when playing back the reencoded video. After the encode it is AVC -- before it was likely VC-1 or MPEG-2.

IVaN_000
30th December 2010, 23:32
That's probably because you are using a different codec when playing back the reencoded video. After the encode it is AVC -- before it was likely VC-1 or MPEG-2.

That's probably it. As I'm no expert, I couldn't figure that out by myself. Thanks.

colinhunt
30th December 2010, 23:37
If it is telecined in a normal way, select "IVTC Sources with 3:2 pulldown" from the SETUP dialog and it will do it for you automatically.
I did a High Speed test run while waiting for someone to reply. I ticked "Use Decomb" and "IVTC Sources with 3:2 Pulldown" to see what happens, and the output was 1080p29.97. Was that caused by "Use Decomb" or did BD-RB decide that the source is not suitable for inverse telecine? Oh, and I might have ticked "Use LAVF" as well.

If it is hard-telecined, then add IVTC_SELECTION=1 to your INI, and close/reopen BD-RB. Now you should be able to select "Inverse Telecine this item" by right clicking on it.
I'll give it a shot. It only takes an hour or so to run a test in High Speed Mode :)

laserfan
30th December 2010, 23:40
That's an issue with the PC, not BD-RB. A program shouldn't have to say "I'm running" to the O/S that is running it.
Hmmm so yours doesn't Sleep if just a cmd.exe (like x264) is running. My Windows 7 wants apps to set the SetThreadExecutionState Function, otherwise it doesn't care if all 4 cores are cranking 100%--it will go to sleep:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa373208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Guess I'm the only one who cares about this so "never mind then".

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 23:55
Hmmm so yours doesn't Sleep if just a cmd.exe (like x264) is running. My Windows 7 wants apps to set the SetThreadExecutionState Function, otherwise it doesn't care if all 4 cores are cranking 100%--it will go to sleep:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa373208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Guess I'm the only one who cares about this so "never mind then". Hmmm... interesting. I've never had to worry about it so didn't give it any thought. I guess it could be different between systems depending upon how the power modes are set. It would be easy enough to set it. I'll see about putting it in the next release.

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 00:18
Hmmm so yours doesn't Sleep if just a cmd.exe (like x264) is running. My Windows 7 wants apps to set the SetThreadExecutionState Function, otherwise it doesn't care if all 4 cores are cranking 100%--it will go to sleep:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa373208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Guess I'm the only one who cares about this so "never mind then".Done. I set it so that both display and system are needed as each encode begins. It is reset to CONTINUOUS at the end of the encode (restarting the SLEEP timer). This should keep the system from sleeping (until BD-RB is complete) no matter how you have your power options set.

Capsbackup
31st December 2010, 03:18
Hmmm so yours doesn't Sleep if just a cmd.exe (like x264) is running. My Windows 7 wants apps to set the SetThreadExecutionState Function, otherwise it doesn't care if all 4 cores are cranking 100%--it will go to sleep



I had this happen to me before with Windows 7 when I first installed it, and I don't remember it ever happening with XP. I changed my power preference for hard drive to never sleep to avoid this, even though I did not like to have it set that way, just in case I forgot to set BD-RB to shut down on completion it would not continue running. :(

omegaman7
31st December 2010, 03:51
Double post....

omegaman7
31st December 2010, 03:51
I never let any of my computer components idle. And I never shut my system down. I've calculated that my electric usage is in the ballpark of 35-50$ a month. It's my belief that electrical components would prefer run around the clock. Much like a light bulb. Hot cold, hot cold, hot cold, Pop!
That's my belief on it. I have a 9 year old system that still runs perfectly :p

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 04:05
I never let any of my computer components idle. And I never shut my system down. I've calculated that my electric usage is in the ballpark of 35-50$ a month. It's my belief that electrical components would prefer run around the clock. Much like a light bulb. Hot cold, hot cold, hot cold, Pop!
That's my belief on it. I have a 9 year old system that still runs perfectly :p I leave two computers running 24x7 (one of them does encodes pretty much 90% of each day as I test discs, versions, and X264 releases). I put a kW meter on them and it costs me about $15 a month. Not bad, I think.

Priapismic
31st December 2010, 04:22
I never let any of my computer components idle. And I never shut my system down. I've calculated that my electric usage is in the ballpark of 35-50$ a month. It's my belief that electrical components would prefer run around the clock. Much like a light bulb. Hot cold, hot cold, hot cold, Pop!
That's my belief on it. I have a 9 year old system that still runs perfectly :pYou have, without a doubt, and without the necessary quantification if mathematics, spent more money, by many factors, on electricity, than would ever have been expended upon replacement components - assuming your premise were true which it is not, even remotely!
Using sleep cycle instead of shutdown, is far easier on modern components. Then using a cleaner, I like Ccleaner but there are many others, every few weeks or so followed by a reboot, will keep your system in good shape, at a low stress level, and (certainly in your case) at immense savings.
Your method, dubiously, might have extended the longevity of poorly made components a decade ago.
Also, the analogy to a light bulb is false; no filament exists anywhere in a PC

omegaman7
31st December 2010, 04:25
Well, I was calculating my power strip as a whole LOL! I have one of those testers as well. Beautiful devices ;)

@Priapismic, we all have our own ways. As do you apparently. I have one of the cheapest rates in the U.S. too... 7.1Cents kW/hr if memory serves. Metal in general breaks down eventually from being hot then cold. This is fact. I'll stop now :p

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 05:54
Well, I was calculating my power strip as a whole LOL! I have one of those testers as well. Beautiful devices ;)

@Priapismic, we all have our own ways. As do you apparently. I have one of the cheapest rates in the U.S. too... 7.1Cents kW/hr if memory serves. Metal in general breaks down eventually from being hot then cold. This is fact. I'll stop now :p Wow, definitely cheap. I'm satisfied with paying 10.67 cents/KwH (although it was 8.5 cents last year) -- on the east coast they are paying 15 cents.

omegaman7
31st December 2010, 06:46
Yes, it is very cheap. I don't actually pay the bill myself, and I'm finding it difficult to get a hold of the actual bill. The rate that I discovered is found on the meter itself on the house.
Jdobbs, your software never ceases to amaze me. I've now backed up the new Resident Evil. It looks like all went well. I'll be watching it tomorrow with my bro at the turn of the year :D My payday (Auto deposit) is friday/tomorrow). All of my bills are paid. Do you know what that means? It means that payday has come for you too. Keep up the good work. I know i've said similar in the past, but the time has finally arrived!
I wish you and yours a Happy new year :)

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 14:59
And a Happy New Year to you and all the other folks here on Doom9!
:thanks:

torque2k
31st December 2010, 15:37
Will try that tonight; sounds VERY plausible. I'm using MSE (not the latest 2.0 version yet).
OK, jdobbs, you were right on the money! Microsoft Security Essentials 1.X had to be the culprit. I just installed the new 2.0 version (and if anyone HASN'T done this upgrade, they really should, as it adds heuristic detection to an already decent free product), and after the reboot BD-Rebuilder called MPC with a preview, no hiccups whatsoever.

Brilliant! Thank you so much for helping with this annoying issue.

One last thing: will there ever be the fine level of control over "blanking" sections of a Blu Ray like there is in DVD-Rebuilder? Right now I'm making myself learn multiAVCHD in order to keep SOME of the extras on my disc, but blank out the previews... unless someone has a better way of doing this. I can see the option to "Blank this item", but it's grayed out in Full Movie mode, and if I switch to Movie Only mode not everything is available in order to blank things. DVD-RB's Segment Viewer/Editor is by far my favorite feature of that program...

laserfan
31st December 2010, 20:30
Regarding STES API:Done. I set it so that both display and system are needed as each encode begins. It is reset to CONTINUOUS at the end of the encode (restarting the SLEEP timer). This should keep the system from sleeping (until BD-RB is complete) no matter how you have your power options set.
Wow I thought you might have ignored this given you run the heck out of your PCs. I will give it a try when it's up.

Thanks and HAPPY NEW YEAR jdobbs!

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 21:47
OK, jdobbs, you were right on the money! Microsoft Security Essentials 1.X had to be the culprit. I just installed the new 2.0 version (and if anyone HASN'T done this upgrade, they really should, as it adds heuristic detection to an already decent free product), and after the reboot BD-Rebuilder called MPC with a preview, no hiccups whatsoever.

Brilliant! Thank you so much for helping with this annoying issue.

One last thing: will there ever be the fine level of control over "blanking" sections of a Blu Ray like there is in DVD-Rebuilder? Right now I'm making myself learn multiAVCHD in order to keep SOME of the extras on my disc, but blank out the previews... unless someone has a better way of doing this. I can see the option to "Blank this item", but it's grayed out in Full Movie mode, and if I switch to Movie Only mode not everything is available in order to blank things. DVD-RB's Segment Viewer/Editor is by far my favorite feature of that program... It'll be available soon. Probably not in the next version (unless I get really motivated), but maybe the one after that.

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 21:49
Regarding STES API:
Wow I thought you might have ignored this given you run the heck out of your PCs. I will give it a try when it's up.

Thanks and HAPPY NEW YEAR jdobbs! I may not always be clear in how I do it or say it, but I honestly do try to give folks what they want. Happy New Year to you too.

Taroth
31st December 2010, 23:08
Happy new year!

I know this is the wrong thread but I've been following this thread for a while and used your software a few times to backup a BD so it's time to donate to keep this going.

Hope you have a good new year and keep up the good work.

Roger Heald

torque2k
31st December 2010, 23:46
It'll be available soon. Probably not in the next version (unless I get really motivated), but maybe the one after that.
You're awesome. Donated tonight, just a bit, but I'll keep "renewing"... :)

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 00:24
Thanks much, guys. It is very much appreciated.
:thanks:

The_Unknown
1st January 2011, 01:40
Happy New Year! :)

I'm having trouble while reducing the size of a BD50 with in-movie-experience. That means, a DTS-Express-audio-part is in there. Will there be any way in future versions to have that cool feature also in the backup? Or is there already one and I have ben blind :)?

drmih
1st January 2011, 03:09
Here's any interesting disc problem. I'm just backing up a BBC disc of a UK series called 'Being Human' - Series 2 (I'm just doing the first disc to bd-9 Full). Everything went well with no warnings. When I play back the bd-9 (on all devices and pcs) I get the menu but no overlay, which prevents me from playing the disc - both the original disc and the iso on the HDD play fine with the overlay. The M2TS file with the menu is 152. If I read the original into TsMuxer, it reports an unsupported stream type and ignores it - on the bd-9 it doesn't, but shows the three streams that the original showed after the warning - a video, audio and subtitle track (although in BD-RB the subtitle track shows as being empty). If I read the original stream into TsRemux, it shows a fourth stream called 'Interactive Graphics Stream #0'. I'm guessing that if I replace the new 60 Mb m2ts file with the original 250 Mb one that it will probably work, but any idea why it fooled bd-rb?

Capsbackup
1st January 2011, 03:48
BD-RB, with tsMuxeR, does not support IGS menu and DTS Express secondary audio.
If you replace the reencoded menu's with the original ones, the buttons may show as expected, but if the bitrate of the original is above the AVCHD limit, you may get stuttering video and audio for the menu playback! ( happened to me anyway).
This will be corrected once jdobbs implements his own remux alternative. :cool:

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 04:05
Support for both IGS and DTS Express should be available for testing within the next couple of versions. Frankly it should have been done long ago.

HWK
1st January 2011, 09:56
Jdobbs , I need clarification regarding option “PASS_TWO_STATS_UPDATE=n” When this option is enabled does it do three pass or two pass only. I ask because in gui you only see max of 2 pass even if this option is selected, where in hidden option it says if set to "1", BD-RB uses "--pass 3" for second pass . Kind of confused here.

Also there is hidden option which allow user to set output quality to be Ultra High by setting option “ENCODE_QUALITY=4” which assign preset to be slower in “lastcmd” file. I was curious x.264 also allow preset of very slow and placebo. Do you think it be beneficial have them.

Ps: Happy new year.

BZeeme
1st January 2011, 10:43
Happy new year!

I know this is the wrong thread but I've been following this thread for a while and used your software a few times to backup a BD so it's time to donate to keep this going.

Hope you have a good new year and keep up the good work.

Roger Heald

I agree and donated again yesterday.
RGR

drmih
1st January 2011, 11:21
Support for both IGS and DTS Express should be available for testing within the next couple of versions. Frankly it should have been done long ago.

Thanks - it did work fine by simply replacing the files. Fortunately on BBC titles there's always a setup HD movie sequence to jettison to make the extra space.

In the meantime is there a way to show a disc which have this problematic stream?

Hobojobo
1st January 2011, 12:33
Is it possible to run multiple instances of BD RB with different with different working paths?

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 13:55
Thanks - it did work fine by simply replacing the files. Fortunately on BBC titles there's always a setup HD movie sequence to jettison to make the extra space.

In the meantime is there a way to show a disc which have this problematic stream? I'll add a condition that copies a stream intact if it has IGS.

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 14:06
Jdobbs , I need clarification regarding option “PASS_TWO_STATS_UPDATE=n” When this option is enabled does it do three pass or two pass only. I ask because in gui you only see max of 2 pass even if this option is selected, where in hidden option it says if set to "1", BD-RB uses "--pass 3" for second pass . Kind of confused here.

Also there is hidden option which allow user to set output quality to be Ultra High by setting option “ENCODE_QUALITY=4” which assign preset to be slower in “lastcmd” file. I was curious x.264 also allow preset of very slow and placebo. Do you think it be beneficial have them.

Ps: Happy new year. You probably want to read the X264 documentation, as it describes "--pass 3". Essentially it works exactly like "--pass 2", except it updates the stats file with the results the nth pass (2 through n). That makes it possible to do additional "--pass 3" passes that also each update the stats file (as many as you want). I wouldn't recommend it, though, as (IMHO) the results don't justify the additional time. When you do the proper analysis in a two pass encode (as X264 does), additional passes are pretty much does very little (if anything).

No, I don't think it would of benefit to add the additional presets. They are massive overkill and give little benefit in this application at the expense of huge time costs. All they would do is give folks the impression I think they are needed -- and they are not. In truth I think the existing "Highest" mode is rarely if ever needed, in fact I can't remember the last time I used it.

Just as a little tip... there is also a hidden "ENCODE_QUALITY=5" setting. I put it there for testing. It uses the fastest X264 settings available, but on most encodes you'll probably not want to do a permanent backkup with it, as you lose quality in order to gain speed.

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 14:15
Is it possible to run multiple instances of BD RB with different with different working paths? Only if you also install it in multiple different folders also (the installation path). Running two instances from the same folder will cause conflicts in the use of the INI file.

Honestly, though, there is little benefit from running two or more instances unless you are finding that there is a lot of unused CPU time. I would guess that to be rare except possibly with huge processor counts. X264 uses almost all (if not all) of the available processor time (I've seen ~100% usage reported on pass two with systems having 8 processors) -- and two concurrent instances will probably run slower than two sequential batch jobs.

Capsbackup
1st January 2011, 17:07
I'll add a condition that copies a stream intact if it has IGS.

Would this condition work if the desired output is BD5/9? :confused:
My experience was, I believe anyway, that the bitrate was too high for the BD5/9, and the backup had audio stuttering when keeping the original IGS menu. However, the BD-25 backup worked perfectly keeping the original menu.( using the MIN_M2TS=xxx)

jdobbs
1st January 2011, 18:12
Would this condition work if the desired output is BD5/9? :confused:
My experience was, I believe anyway, that the bitrate was too high for the BD5/9, and the backup had audio stuttering when keeping the original IGS menu. However, the BD-25 backup worked perfectly keeping the original menu.( using the MIN_M2TS=xxx) It would only work on a BD-25. Maybe I'll just wait until it is done.

drmih
1st January 2011, 19:56
It was only really a flag or notification that such a stream existed so that you can either decide not to do the disc at this time, or try a manual work around. At the moment there doesn't seem an easy way to identify these discs.

HWK
1st January 2011, 20:03
You probably want to read the X264 documentation, as it describes "--pass 3". Essentially it works exactly like "--pass 2", except it updates the stats file with the results the nth pass (2 through n). That makes it possible to do additional "--pass 3" passes that also each update the stats file (as many as you want). I wouldn't recommend it, though, as (IMHO) the results don't justify the additional time. When you do the proper analysis in a two pass encode (as X264 does), additional passes are pretty much does very little (if anything).

No, I don't think it would of benefit to add the additional presets. They are massive overkill and give little benefit in this application at the expense of huge time costs. All they would do is give folks the impression I think they are needed -- and they are not. In truth I think the existing "Highest" mode is rarely if ever needed, in fact I can't remember the last time I used it.

Just as a little tip... there is also a hidden "ENCODE_QUALITY=5" setting. I put it there for testing. It uses the fastest X264 settings available, but on most encodes you'll probably not want to do a permanent backkup with it, as you lose quality in order to gain speed.

Thanks Jdobbs, I started to read documentation but never finish it. I would look through it.

As for another point I think you are quite right.

chrispk
2nd January 2011, 00:22
Hi there :) I'm new to BD backup since we just now got a BD player and HD setup for Christmas but I made sure we got a BD drive to backup our BDs (we have 4 kids :) ). I have tried to backup the Gladiator movie I got for Christmas with BDRB but every time I burn it, it still has a loop in the movie. The first time I burned it, one of my settings was wrong on the BDRB and the loop was quite long, about 20 mins into the movie it threw us back to the beginning scenes. SO I downloaded the inspect.exe and ran it, changed the setting that was wrong, ran it again and then ran BDRB on it again. The second time through there was still a loop, only slightly smaller. The next time around I figured it was the type of media I was using so I bought some Verbatim LTH 25GB BDs to use. The loop was slightly smaller this time as well, it threw us about half a minute back in the movie. I don't want to keep burning discs, and a helpful guy from the Videohelp forum suggested using a software player like PowerDVD. I tried to get my PowerDVD 9 to play it but can't figure that out yet. Can someone help me figure out how to get rid of the loop and teach me how to play it with my software before wasting anymore BDs?
:thanks:

Priapismic
2nd January 2011, 01:30
Great program

jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 02:45
Hi there :) I'm new to BD backup since we just now got a BD player and HD setup for Christmas but I made sure we got a BD drive to backup our BDs (we have 4 kids :) ). I have tried to backup the Gladiator movie I got for Christmas with BDRB but every time I burn it, it still has a loop in the movie. The first time I burned it, one of my settings was wrong on the BDRB and the loop was quite long, about 20 mins into the movie it threw us back to the beginning scenes. SO I downloaded the inspect.exe and ran it, changed the setting that was wrong, ran it again and then ran BDRB on it again. The second time through there was still a loop, only slightly smaller. The next time around I figured it was the type of media I was using so I bought some Verbatim LTH 25GB BDs to use. The loop was slightly smaller this time as well, it threw us about half a minute back in the movie. I don't want to keep burning discs, and a helpful guy from the Videohelp forum suggested using a software player like PowerDVD. I tried to get my PowerDVD 9 to play it but can't figure that out yet. Can someone help me figure out how to get rid of the loop and teach me how to play it with my software before wasting anymore BDs?
:thanks: Not sure how the "loop" can happen. It would seem you'd almost have to purposefully cause that during encode... so I'm not sure what I can do. I would highly suggest you buy a BD-RE disc (you only need one) so you can test without wasting discs. You can get one at Target for about $15. Can you describe the "loop" a little? I can't imagine how that could happen unless the disc is skipping?

As for using PowerDVD -- my recommendation is always to use a standalone player. Software players (all of them) are just too buggy, and you never know where the blame lies when you have issues.

Just as an aside, I've done "Gladiator" and didn't have any problems.

gregbm
2nd January 2011, 02:52
Thank you jdobbs for your excellent programm.

I'v a new laptop with a core I7, I see that Bd rebuilder use only 40% of the cpu to converting blyray. With my core2duo cpu is always at 100%.

Do you think it's normal or can I set it to use 100% of CPU to convert faster?

(Sorry for my poor english)

jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 02:55
Thank you jdobbs for your excellent programm.

I'v a new laptop with a core I7, I see that Bd rebuilder use only 40% of the cpu to converting blyray. With my core2duo cpu is always at 100%.

Do you think it's normal or can I set it to use 100% of CPU to convert faster?

(Sorry for my poor english) Make sure you are watching it in Pass 2. Pass one rarely uses all the CPU (at least on my system), but 40% seems low. Maybe the hard drive can't keep up? I7's are pretty fast and laptops often have slow hard drives. How many fps is it showing while encoding? Also, have you tried it without antivirus running? They often put themselves between you and your disc drive, causing everything to be slow and annoying.

chrispk
2nd January 2011, 03:06
Not sure how the "loop" can happen. It would seem you'd almost have to purposefully cause that during encode... so I'm not sure what I can do. I would highly suggest you buy a BD-RE disc (you only need one) so you can test without wasting discs. You can get one at Target for about $15. Can you describe the "loop" a little? I can't imagine how that could happen unless the disc is skipping?

As for using PowerDVD -- my recommendation is always to use a standalone player. Software players (all of them) are just too buggy, and you never know where the blame lies when you have issues.

Just as an aside, I've done "Gladiator" and didn't have any problems.

Thanks for the response JDobbs. I posted it to another thread because of the earlier response. Sorry if I put this in the wrong spot.

I actually did buy a BD-RE disc to burn to so I will try that. As for the loop, what happens is that we watch the movie and all of a sudden it will throw us back to an earlier scene, like the disc is skipping backwards like a record player with a scratched record. The first burn, the loop was large it took us almost all the way back to the beginning of the movie. The second time, it looped at the same spot but only took us halfway back. The last time, it looped again at the same spot and only took us about a 10 seconds back. So with each burn it seemed to get better. I don't know anything about how I could cause that during encode as I haven't changed any settings at all (I don't know enough about any of this to do that as I'm sure I would screw it up :p ).

gregbm
2nd January 2011, 03:09
Thanks for reply.

In pass 2 -> 23FPS (0.8x) -> cpu:33%. My hard drives is only 5200rpm maybe it's a problem.

I'll try to stop avant antivirus

k-c-ksum
2nd January 2011, 14:23
Thanks for reply.

In pass 2 -> 23FPS (0.8x) -> cpu:33%. My hard drives is only 5200rpm maybe it's a problem.

I'll try to stop avant antivirus

thats quick if its a quality 2nd pass

carland
2nd January 2011, 16:27
No idea. But it's very probably something on your end, either in the player, the media, or something in your processing -- if it were within BD Rebuilder it would be happening everywhere. On the other hand, with no view into your settings, etc, anything I'd say would be a wild guess.

I've done Avatar and A-Team with no issues.



The problem breaks keeping, so I decided to test dvfab and 7 per film breaks no longer exist.
I would like to help solve it. Because i like rebuilder.
The films I made were the avatar and the A team with the rebuilder i have breaks and with dvfab i have not.
my player is lgbd390 bd-r and sony.
thanks
:thanks:

IVaN_000
2nd January 2011, 21:03
Thanks for reply.

In pass 2 -> 23FPS (0.8x) -> cpu:33%. My hard drives is only 5200rpm maybe it's a problem.

I'll try to stop avant antivirus

If you're on Windows 7 you can watch hard disk usage with Resource Monitor. Just press Start button and type "Resource monitor".

waynezo
2nd January 2011, 22:33
To end the wavi.exe errors:
Open ffdshow Video Decoder Configuration,
Then, under DirectShow Control click the "edit" button next to "use ffdshow only in", and type in wavi.exe.

This fix didn't work for me. If I disable the LPCM track I don't get the error. I have the uncompressed setting in ffdshow set to all supported.

I have K-lite codecs on my PC. Do they need to be tweaked also?

I'm rebuilding concert Blu-Rays to BD-25. I need the m2ts files to have ac3 so they will play on WMC7.

I have been disabling LPCM as a workaround.

Is there anything else I should try?
Is LPCM relevant to the ac3 encoding?

I love BDRB, just haven't been able to get it to encode the LPCM track.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 22:41
The problem breaks keeping, so I decided to test dvfab and 7 per film breaks no longer exist.
I would like to help solve it. Because i like rebuilder.
The films I made were the avatar and the A team with the rebuilder i have breaks and with dvfab i have not.
my player is lgbd390 bd-r and sony.
thanks
:thanks:You know, I'd love to help you. But where is your LOG? Where is your INF file? Where is your settings (INI file)? With just a "I have an issue" report and no supporting details I have to resort to throwing down chicken bones and trying to read their pattern to find the error. You'll note that I've done the discs you reported with no issues, and so have a whole lot of other people. So if I try them without any changes in settings or specifics related to the way you did the encode -- they'll just work perfectly again.

You'll find by going back through this thread that the problems that get fixed are the ones that include the information needed to fix them.

Also -- frankly I don't care what DVDFab does. If you want to use DVDFab, then more power to you. I'm not in competition with them or anybody else -- I aim at a different audience who is looking for higher-quality backups from a freeware package. DVDFab has nothing to do with this thread or BD Rebuilder and doesn't help in the slightest in bug reporting or beta testing this program.

jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 22:50
This fix didn't work for me. If I disable the LPCM track I don't get the error. I have the uncompressed setting in ffdshow set to all supported.

I have K-lite codecs on my PC. Do they need to be tweaked also? I'm rebuilding concert Blu-Rays to BD-25. I need the m2ts files to have ac3 so they will play on WMC7.

I have been disabling LPCM as a workaround.

Is there anything else I should try?
Is LPCM relevant to the ac3 encoding?

I love BDRB, just haven't been able to get it to encode the LPCM track.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Not tweaked... removed -- at least if you want to have any luck with BD-RB. FFDSHOW has every CODEC anyone needs, codec packs are superfluous and just cause problems.

I've found an issue with 7.1 LPCM sources when trying to reencode them. I assume this is the problem you're having. I'm surprised it hasn't been reported more -- I guess it just underscores just how rare 7.1 LPCM sources really are (or how few are kept/reencoded, at least). I've fixed it for the next release.

carland
2nd January 2011, 23:03
You know, I'd love to help you. But where is your LOG? Where is your INF file? Where is your settings (INI file)? With just a "I have an issue" report and no supporting details I have to resort to throwing down chicken bones and trying to read their pattern to find the error. You'll note that I've done the discs you reported with no issues, and so have a whole lot of other people. So if I try them without any changes in settings or specifics related to the way you did the encode -- they'll just work perfectly again.

You'll find by going back through this thread that the problems that get fixed are the ones that include information.

Also -- frankly I don't care what DVDFab does. If you want to use DVDFab, then more power to you. But it has nothing to do with this thread or BD Rebuilder and doesn't help in the slightest in bug reporting or beta testing this program.

Hello again, thanks for reply,
This is my ini

Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.9
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;por;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=por;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
STATUS_LOG=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\PROGRAMAS INSTALADOS\WORKING REBUILDER\
SOURCE_PATH=E:\107- THE A TEAM\THE.A-TEAM.EXTENDED.CUT.2IN1.2010.BLURAY.1080P.AVC.DTS-HD.MA5.1\


I refer the dvfab because with rebuilder i have pauses and need to know if the problem is the player or media or rebuilder.

I want to help:thanks:

gregbm
2nd January 2011, 23:03
If you're on Windows 7 you can watch hard disk usage with Resource Monitor. Just press Start button and type "Resource monitor".

Yes I think it's the hard drive the problem:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3199/96936751.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/96936751.png/)

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jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 23:06
Hello again, thanks for reply,
This is my ini

I refer the dvfab because with rebuilder i have pauses and need to know if the problem is the player or media or rebuilder.

I want to help:thanks: Do you still have the LOG or INF file? The settings tells be about how BD Rebuilder is configured, but nothing about the actual encode/rebuild itself.

Capsbackup
2nd January 2011, 23:10
@carland;
What did you use to rip the original Blu-ray? :rolleyes:
BD-RB was not designed to use with anything other than properly ripped original source Blu-rays, or at least for this this bug report thread. :(

waynezo
2nd January 2011, 23:11
Not tweaked... removed -- at least if you want to have any luck with BD-RB. FFDSHOW has every CODEC anyone needs, codec packs are superfluous and just cause problems.

I've found an issue with 7.1 LPCM sources when trying to reencode them. I assume this is the problem you're having. I'm surprised it hasn't been reported more -- I guess it just underscores just how rare 7.1 LPCM sources really are (or how few are kept/reencoded, at least). I've fixed it for the next release.

Thanks jdobbs. I removed K-lite and no more errors. I was getting them on any LPCM source.

I originally installed K-lite to get thumbnail support. Does ffdshow provide thumbnail support?

Thanks again for a great program and Happy New Year!

jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 23:20
Thanks jdobbs. I removed K-lite and no more errors. I was getting them on any LPCM source.

I originally installed K-lite to get thumbnail support. Does ffdshow provide thumbnail support?

Thanks again for a great program and Happy New Year! It does on my computers (Windows 7).

carland
2nd January 2011, 23:38
Do you still have the LOG or INF file? The settings tells be about how BD Rebuilder is configured, but nothing about the actual encode/rebuild itself.

13:38:00] BD Rebuilder v0.36.09 (beta)
- Source: AVATAR.EXTENDED.COLLECTORS.EDITION.DISC1.2010.1080P.BLURAY.AVC.DTS-HD.MA.5.1_A.T.OMIX_
- Input BD size: 46,31 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:23.988]
- Target BD size: 22,90 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:38:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:38:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00056]
- [13:38:00] Reencoding: VID_00056 (1 of 53)
- [13:38:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 24 frames
- [13:38:00] Reencoding: VID_00056, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:08] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:38:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00055]
- [13:38:09] Reencoding: VID_00055 (2 of 53)
- [13:38:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 72 frames
- [13:38:09] Reencoding: VID_00055, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:10] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:38:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [13:38:12] Reencoding: VID_00009 (3 of 53)
- [13:38:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 156 frames
- Bitrate: 12.014 Kbs
- [13:38:13] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:21] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:38:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [13:38:24] Reencoding: VID_00017 (4 of 53)
- [13:38:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 171 frames
- Bitrate: 12.999 Kbs
- [13:38:24] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:33] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:38:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [13:38:37] Reencoding: VID_00029 (5 of 53)
- [13:38:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 207 frames
- Bitrate: 18.125 Kbs
- [13:38:37] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:38:49] Video Encode complete
- [13:38:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:38:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:38:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [13:38:54] Reencoding: VID_00011 (6 of 53)
- [13:38:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 557 frames
- Bitrate: 9.712 Kbs
- [13:38:54] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:39:17] Video Encode complete
- [13:39:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:39:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:39:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [13:39:23] Reencoding: VID_00013 (7 of 53)
- [13:39:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 371 frames
- Bitrate: 15.345 Kbs
- [13:39:23] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [13:39:42] Video Encode complete
- [13:39:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:39:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:39:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
- [13:39:48] Reencoding: VID_00046 (8 of 53)
- [13:39:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 380 frames
- Bitrate: 17.939 Kbs
- [14:19:21] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:22:00] Video Encode complete
- [14:22:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:22:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:22:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [14:22:33] Reencoding: VID_00041 (36 of 53)
- [14:22:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.014 frames
- Bitrate: 17.641 Kbs
- [14:22:33] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:25:28] Video Encode complete
- [14:25:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:25:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:25:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00047]
- [14:26:05] Reencoding: VID_00047 (37 of 53)
- [14:26:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.806 frames
- Bitrate: 14.737 Kbs
- [14:26:05] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:29:23] Video Encode complete
- [14:29:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:29:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:29:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [14:30:02] Reencoding: VID_00010 (38 of 53)
- [14:30:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 5.135 frames
- Bitrate: 11.558 Kbs
- [14:30:02] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:33:45] Video Encode complete
- [14:33:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:33:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:34:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [14:34:30] Reencoding: VID_00032 (39 of 53)
- [14:34:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 5.610 frames
- Bitrate: 12.205 Kbs
- [14:34:31] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:38:43] Video Encode complete
- [14:38:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:38:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:39:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [14:39:45] Reencoding: VID_00012 (40 of 53)
- [14:39:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6.760 frames
- Bitrate: 13.315 Kbs
- [14:39:45] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:45:10] Video Encode complete
- [14:45:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:45:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:45:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [14:46:12] Reencoding: VID_00008 (41 of 53)
- [14:46:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 7.831 frames
- Bitrate: 11.745 Kbs
- [14:46:12] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:52:14] Video Encode complete
- [14:52:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:52:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:52:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
- [14:53:17] Reencoding: VID_00051 (42 of 53)
- [14:53:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 8.548 frames
- Bitrate: 11.445 Kbs
- [14:53:17] Reencoding: VID_00051, Pass 1 of 1
- [14:59:33] Video Encode complete
- [14:59:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:59:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:59:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [15:00:49] Reencoding: VID_00014 (43 of 53)
- [15:00:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 8.633 frames
- Bitrate: 14.203 Kbs
- [15:00:49] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:08:11] Video Encode complete
- [15:08:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:08:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:08:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [15:09:37] Reencoding: VID_00001 (44 of 53)
- [15:09:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 9.354 frames
- Bitrate: 13.734 Kbs
- [15:09:37] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:18:07] Video Encode complete
- [15:18:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:18:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:18:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [15:19:35] Reencoding: VID_00028 (45 of 53)
- [15:19:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 7.431 frames
- Bitrate: 17.666 Kbs
- [15:19:35] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:27:44] Video Encode complete
- [15:27:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:28:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:28:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [15:29:06] Reencoding: VID_00030 (46 of 53)
- [15:29:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 7.929 frames
- Bitrate: 16.715 Kbs
- [15:29:06] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:29] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [15:38:55] Reencoding: VID_00020 (47 of 53)
- [15:38:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 11.158 frames
- Bitrate: 12.668 Kbs
- [15:38:55] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:48:47] Video Encode complete
- [15:48:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:49:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:49:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [15:50:29] Reencoding: VID_00018 (48 of 53)
- [15:50:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 11.310 frames
- Bitrate: 13.752 Kbs
- [15:50:29] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:59:45] Video Encode complete
- [15:59:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:00:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:00:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [16:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00022 (49 of 53)
- [16:01:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 13.448 frames
- Bitrate: 13.305 Kbs
- [16:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:12:39] Video Encode complete
- [16:12:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:13:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:13:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00049]
- [16:14:51] Reencoding: VID_00049 (50 of 53)
- [16:14:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 14.972 frames
- Bitrate: 13.824 Kbs
- [16:14:52] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:26:58] Video Encode complete
- [16:26:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:27:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:27:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [16:29:53] Reencoding: VID_00002 (51 of 53)
- [16:29:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 25.559 frames
- Bitrate: 12.146 Kbs
- [16:29:54] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:49:58] Video Encode complete
- [16:49:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:50:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:51:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [16:53:51] Reencoding: VID_00006 (52 of 53)
- [16:53:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 21.792 frames
- Bitrate: 15.119 Kbs
- [16:53:51] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:13:18] Video Encode complete
- [17:13:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:13:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [17:21:10] Reencoding: VID_00024 (53 of 53)
- [17:21:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 62.869 frames
- Bitrate: 14.775 Kbs
- [17:21:10] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:16:33] Video Encode complete
- [18:16:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:18:44] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:21:54]PHASE ONE complete
[18:21:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:21:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:23:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:23:38]JOB: AVATAR.EXTENDED.COLLECTORS.EDITION.DISC1.2010.1080P.BLURAY.AVC.DTS-HD.MA.5.1_A.T.OMIX_ finished.

Capsbackup
2nd January 2011, 23:45
@carland;
The first log was for The A Team, this one is for Avatar.
Both appear to be downloaded content, not original. :rolleyes:

jdobbs
2nd January 2011, 23:58
@carland

Capsbackup is right. Your source has been preprocessed -- and the odds are 1000:1 that the source of the problem is there before BD Rebuilder even starts scanning. There are lots of things that could cause it, and one package might be tripped by the glitch while another wouldn't. I have no idea how this source was ripped, or even if it is complete (I'm pretty sure it isn't). To reiterate the first post of this thread -- BD Rebuilder is meant for backup of original discs that you own. Please try it with an original commercially-authored disc -- and you'll find it will work on both of the titles you've reported. Sorry.

jdobbs
3rd January 2011, 00:04
Thanks jdobbs. I removed K-lite and no more errors. I was getting them on any LPCM source.

I originally installed K-lite to get thumbnail support. Does ffdshow provide thumbnail support?

Thanks again for a great program and Happy New Year! One of the problems with CODEC Packs is that they sometimes overrule, intervene, or interfere with FFDSHOW processing -- and it doesn't often show up when I look at the registry settings configuration.

Glad to hear you've gotten past the problem.

carland
3rd January 2011, 00:20
@carland

Capsbackup is right. Your source has been preprocessed -- and the odds are 1000:1 that the source of the problem is there before BD Rebuilder even starts scanning. There are lots of things that could cause it, and one package might be tripped by the glitch while another wouldn't. I have no idea how this source was ripped, or even if it is complete (I'm pretty sure it isn't). To reiterate the first post of this thread -- BD Rebuilder is meant for backup of original discs that you own. Please try it with an original commercially-authored disc -- and you'll find it will work on both of the titles you've reported. Sorry.

ok I will tried, thanks for help.

IVaN_000
3rd January 2011, 02:34
Yes I think it's the hard drive the problem:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3199/96936751.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/96936751.png/)

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In Resource Monitor, take a look in the "Disk" tab ("Disque" in your Windows, "Disco" in mine :) ). You'll see 3 sections in there: the 1st one with the list of processes accesing the hard drives, the 2nd one the files open, and the 3rd the activity time of the drives (0% being idle, and 100% total hardcore thrashing :devil: ).

I find this tool extremely useful, just as Process Explorer.

colinhunt
3rd January 2011, 13:19
A problem occurred when doing a full backup of "Peeping Tom". A dialogue window with the following message appeared:

BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1801 [01:46:47] ReencodeAudio()
00075 1801

Log:
[01:45:35] BD Rebuilder v0.36.09 (beta)
- Source: PEEPING_TOM
- Input BD size: 31,83 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:47:52.066]
- Target BD size: 23,54 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[01:45:37] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [01:45:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [01:45:41] Reencoding: VID_00003 (1 of 8)
- [01:45:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 1*465 frames
- Bitrate: 14*602 Kbs
- [01:45:41] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:46:08] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:46:46] Video Encode complete
- [01:46:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:46:47] ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801
[14:18:00] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Here's what MediaInfo says of audio in 00003.m2ts:

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Duration : 1mn 1s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 0
Channel(s) : channel0
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Duration : 1mn 1s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 0
Channel(s) : channel0
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits

When I play the file with VLC, both tracks contain audio but it's accompanied by a strange distortion. MPC-HC plays both audio tracks fine and reports their bitrate as 1152 kbps.

I had set BD-RB to re-encode PCM tracks to AC3 but to keep other HD tracks as-is.

jdobbs
3rd January 2011, 15:27
@colinhunt

Are those PCM audio tracks 7.1ch?

colinhunt
3rd January 2011, 17:26
Are those PCM audio tracks 7.1ch?
I'm fairly sure they're actually 1.0ch.

jdobbs
3rd January 2011, 20:36
I'm fairly sure they're actually 1.0ch.

I definitely don't understand the Mediainfo data. Bitrate "0" and Channels "0"??

jdobbs
3rd January 2011, 22:16
I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.37.01). Changes for this release:- Added a routine that automatically checks for
playlist links and, when changes are made to the
audio or subtitle selection the change ripples
through all members of a playlist. Please note
that a single M2TS file can be a member of more
than one playlist. For clarity, any entry that
is a component of a multi-part playlist will be
highlighted with a "*" in the BD-RB streams
list (ex: "VID_00001*") on full backups.
- Added a new audio type for ALTERNATE MKV output.
You can now set aType to keep the original audio
intact (unchanged). Also added a new profile as
an example ("MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact
Audio"). This allows AC3 as well as LPCM and DTS
output to MKV.
- Added a new hidden option "ALTERNATE_PAL=n". When
set to "1" while "Assume PAL for DVD Output" is
selected an alternate method is used to convert
FILM (23.976) sources. The framerate will be
directly assumed to be 25fps (rather than using
a conversion algorithm) and the audio will be
adjusted to match the new timeline. This method
can result in clearer video playback at the
expense of some slight audio change. Note: This
applies to DVD output only.
- Added code to prevent a system from going into
SLEEP mode while BD-RB is executing.
- Corrected a bug in which DVD-5/9 ALTERNATE output
combined with multiple audio tracks might combine
to exceed the DVD maximum bitrate and buffering,
and result in a "ERROR in attempt to mux (MPLEX)"
error.
- Corrected an error in the sizing algoritm for DVD
ALTERNATE output. Previously any changes in the
framerate (e.g. PAL from NTSC or FILM) could
result in oversizing/undersizing.
- Modified settings so that an SD source that is
being inverse telecined and converted to 1080 will
become 1080p @ 23.976fps rather than 1080i @ 29.97
via X264's pulldown mechanism.
- Corrected an issue in which BD-RB, under certain
circumstances and during movie-only encoding might
set the remux framerate incorrectly to NUL, and
cause audio desynchronization.
- Corrected an error in which a 7.1 LPCM audio that
is being converted to DD would fail causing BD-RB
to "freeze" while attempting to reencode audio.
- Refined the MPEG-2 scan to better detect pulldown
v.s. hybrid sources.
- Corrected a conditional decision so that LAVF will
not be used when pulldown is detected in a source.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Hobojobo
3rd January 2011, 22:27
Is it possible with BD_RB v0.37.01 to choose more then 1 audio track for the alternate mkv output?

jdobbs
3rd January 2011, 22:42
Is it possible with BD_RB v0.37.01 to choose more then 1 audio track for the alternate mkv output?
No. All that changed is that you can now keep HD audio. But multiple audio selections might be in the next release.

Sharc
3rd January 2011, 23:20
- Added a new hidden option "ALTERNATE_PAL=n". When
set to "1" while "Assume PAL for DVD Output" is
selected an alternate method is used to convert
FILM (23.976) sources. The framerate will be
directly assumed to be 25fps (rather than using
a conversion algorithm) and the audio will be
adjusted to match the new timeline. This method
can result in clearer video playback at the
expense of some slight audio change. Note: This
applies to DVD output only.

Thank you! :)

omegaman7
3rd January 2011, 23:48
No. All that changed is that you can now keep HD audio. But multiple audio selections might be in the next release.

Are you saying that there is currently no way to keep "ALL" audio tracks, without conversion? I'm experiencing a problem with "The Other Guys" still. I thought I had it, but apparently I do not. When loading it into 2 software players, it acts as though it only kept 1 audio track. Foreign audio track. Possibly portugese, but do not quote me on this :p (Whether I play Theatrical or Unrated). I'd really just like to keep all the audio, so I don't have to worry about this. I burned the output files anyway, and the BD player freezes while loading the disc. It's loaded other discs of this type. I wonder if the PS3 updates are causing this, but I doubt it. They should probably be ignored by players that don't recognize the files/folders.

Uh oh, it's possible that I deleted my second attempt, and am still trying to play the first attempt. I'll be reencoding the files yet again today. :S

Ok. I noticed the ability to keep all audio. Even though it's not keeping everything :confused:


Sorry, it's now keeping virtually all tracks. Didn't notice that nice little check box...

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 00:14
Are you saying that there is currently no way to keep "ALL" audio tracks, without conversion? I'm experiencing a problem with "The Other Guys" still. I thought I had it, but apparently I do not. When loading it into 2 software players, it acts as though it only kept 1 audio track. Foreign audio track. Possibly portugese, but do not quote me on this :p (Whether I play Theatrical or Unrated). I'd really just like to keep all the audio, so I don't have to worry about this. I burned the output files anyway, and the BD player freezes while loading the disc. It's loaded other discs of this type. I wonder if the PS3 updates are causing this, but I doubt it. They should probably be ignored by players that don't recognize the files/folders.

Uh oh, it's possible that I deleted my second attempt, and am still trying to play the first attempt. I'll be reencoding the files yet again today. :S

Ok. I noticed the ability to keep all audio. Even though it's not keeping everything :confused:


Sorry, it's now keeping virtually all tracks. Didn't notice that nice little check box... I don't think I know what you're saying.

You can certainly keep all tracks in blu-ray, avchd, or even DVD backup. But when you output to an MKV or MP4 file (ALTERNATE output), only the first selected track is kept.

I've backed up "The Other Guys" every which way I can think of and am not having any issues.

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 00:30
I know how to keep all audio now. I misunderstood at first, how the selections worked. Blond moment LOL!!! What ever my problem is, I'm keeping all audio now, and I'll see how that does tonight when I get home from work. If that doesn't work, i'll upgrade to the new version. I need to know if my current version is SOMEHOW causing it.

colinhunt
4th January 2011, 01:34
I definitely don't understand the Mediainfo data. Bitrate "0" and Channels "0"??
Me neither. That's why I added how VLC and MPC-HC play the file. Must be a rare mux or audio configuration if MediaInfo does not recognize the format.

setarip_old
4th January 2011, 02:54
@jdobbs, @colinhunt

Hi!

Regarding "Peeping Tom" - Online reviews indicate that this recently made Blu-ray of a (IIRC) 1950s movie contains only a (single channel) monaural PCM audiostream, which is very likely the cause of the backup and playback problems.

I believe this can be remedied (for a movie-only backup) by, before using BD-RB, extracting the audiostream and using EAC3 to convert it to (two channel) stereo PCM and then using tsMuxeR to replace the original audiostream with the revised version - and then process with BD-RB...

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 08:11
All is well now with "The Other Guys". But some dark scenery suffered more than I'd like. So I'll be running it once again, with some different audio settings, and a longer encode :)

Jdobbs. Do you have a Theoretical explanation even, of what would cause the program to mistake audio languages? My first encodes had instructions of English audio only, and yet it kept Portuguese(or some other language) only. Shame I can't preview/sample the audio source by right clicking, and opening with a media player ;) Then I could verify that the program is confused.
Dvd rebuilder has never done this before. Something weird must be going on to effect Bd rebuilder.

setarip_old
4th January 2011, 10:51
@omegaman7

Hi! Do you have a Theoretical explanation even, of what would cause the program to mistake audio languages? My first encodes had instructions of English audio only, and yet it kept Portuguese(or some other language) only. Shame I can't preview/sample the audio source by right clicking, and opening with a media playerHave you played the original Blu-ray disc to determine whether the audiostream selections work properly on it?

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 10:56
Yes. The uncompressed folder plays perfectly. So does my third attempt at the compressed output, keeping all audio tracks. I'm now running it again, removing select audio tracks manually. I won't be deleting the original folder for some time. I have to know what is causing this. This is really bizarre LOL!

You sure love that blue text lol.

Sharc
4th January 2011, 13:24
@Jdobbs
I tried the Alternative PAL DVD mode with ALTERNATE_PAL=1.
Perfect, no ghosted pictures any more.
Just to inform I set the Custom Size to 4483 MB and still got some undersize of 94% (video+1 audio) -- which on the positive side let me eventually add a nice menu ....

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 14:14
I know how to keep all audio now. I misunderstood at first, how the selections worked. Blond moment LOL!!! What ever my problem is, I'm keeping all audio now, and I'll see how that does tonight when I get home from work. If that doesn't work, i'll upgrade to the new version. I need to know if my current version is SOMEHOW causing it.

Well... there are rarely times when it is useful to keep all languages, unless you speak them all (which is rare). Every language you keep steals bandwidth from the video. If there is enough content, you're video quality may suffer noticably.

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 14:16
@jdobbs, @colinhunt

Hi!

Regarding "Peeping Tom" - Online reviews indicate that this recently made Blu-ray of a (IIRC) 1950s movie contains only a (single channel) monaural PCM audiostream, which is very likely the cause of the backup and playback problems.

I believe this can be remedied (for a movie-only backup) by, before using BD-RB, extracting the audiostream and using EAC3 to convert it to (two channel) stereo PCM and then using tsMuxeR to replace the original audiostream with the revised version - and then process with BD-RB... Hmmm... mono tracks are completely legal and BD-RB should handle them, although I'm not sure I have run into any.

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 14:19
All is well now with "The Other Guys". But some dark scenery suffered more than I'd like. So I'll be running it once again, with some different audio settings, and a longer encode :)

Jdobbs. Do you have a Theoretical explanation even, of what would cause the program to mistake audio languages? My first encodes had instructions of English audio only, and yet it kept Portuguese(or some other language) only. Shame I can't preview/sample the audio source by right clicking, and opening with a media player ;) Then I could verify that the program is confused.
Dvd rebuilder has never done this before. Something weird must be going on to effect Bd rebuilder. You can right click on the extracted audio before encoding and play it, or you could right click on the AUD_XXXXX.AVS file and play it.

The only way I could see that happening is if somehow the audio PID in the M2TS is not configured to match the one in the CLPI and/or M2TS. If that's true, then the source is corrupted. There's nothing BD-RB could do about that. As I may have said before -- after a couple thousand test runs against a huge number of commercial BDs... I have never gotten the wrong language.

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 14:23
@Jdobbs
I tried the Alternative PAL DVD mode with ALTERNATE_PAL=1.
Perfect, no ghosted pictures any more.
Just to inform I set the Custom Size to 4483 MB and still got some undersize of 94% (video+1 audio) -- which on the positive side let me eventually add a nice menu .... How is the sound after the compaction? I did a few tests, and couldn't notice much difference if any...

williamtel
4th January 2011, 19:11
@jdobbs

I do not know if this will be important to anyone else but I just wanted to share what I expirienced.
I was backing up "Salt" US version, when file 50 of 64 caused an error of tsmuxer.exe to stop working. Tried a couple of times and then I decieded to download the the latest version of Halli Media Spliter which was released on Nov 21, 2010. Program ran fine with no issues. I don't know if this info will help anyone else but this worked for me and I wanted to let someone else know. Thanks.

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 19:33
Thanks for the tip about running the workfiles. But the numbering scheme used by avisynth compared to Bd rebuilders numbering scheme is a bit cumbersome at best. I think I understand though. I'm even more baffled now. If I'm understanding avisynth correctly, the english audio track IS the english audio track. Which confuses me even more LOL!

I removed the extra english tracks, and the HD french track, and was happily greeted by HD english audio upon playing the main title. This would sure be easier if the main title was a single M2TS file. Wonder why they did it this way... Basterds! LOL!

I will now run it again at super fast settings, to hurry along the testing, so that I may understand the error. By the way, I can't seem to play the AVS files. "Cannot Render file". I'm gonna try to create the error once again, to be sure this is an error at all, and not just a fluke. The way it happened before, was keeping HD audio (English only).

Hmm the other machine plays the AVS files. Likely an association issue...

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 20:01
@jdobbs

I do not know if this will be important to anyone else but I just wanted to share what I expirienced.
I was backing up "Salt" US version, when file 50 of 64 caused an error of tsmuxer.exe to stop working. Tried a couple of times and then I decieded to download the the latest version of Halli Media Spliter which was released on Nov 21, 2010. Program ran fine with no issues. I don't know if this info will help anyone else but this worked for me and I wanted to let someone else know. Thanks. There are other issues with that HAALI version -- when I tested it I got random X264 crashes. Use it if you wish, it's your computer -- but please don't post any bug reports, because I already know the cause.

Try enabling or disabling "Uncompressed" audio decoding in FFDSHOW and see if it has an effect.

I did the US version of "Salt" with no issues.

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 20:04
Thanks for the tip about running the workfiles. But the numbering scheme used by avisynth compared to Bd rebuilders numbering scheme is a bit cumbersome at best. I think I understand though. I'm even more baffled now. If I'm understanding avisynth correctly, the english audio track IS the english audio track. Which confuses me even more LOL!

I removed the extra english tracks, and the HD french track, and was happily greeted by HD english audio upon playing the main title. This would sure be easier if the main title was a single M2TS file. Wonder why they did it this way... Basterds! LOL!

I will now run it again at super fast settings, to hurry along the testing, so that I may understand the error. By the way, I can't seem to play the AVS files. "Cannot Render file". I'm gonna try to create the error once again, to be sure this is an error at all, and not just a fluke. The way it happened before, was keeping HD audio (English only).

Hmm the other machine plays the AVS files. Likely an association issue...Numbering scheme? Huh?

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 20:29
Ok. I think I was intimidated by a number which made no sense to me. I think it does now. E.g. "AUD_00125_4352". 4352 is simply a way of distinguishing a different audio track within a clip(4352 should be english, and 4360 could be Portuguese). AUD_00125, is part of VID_00125. It has simply been Demuxed. Sorry, i'm about as green as it gets. I'm more than anything explaining this to myself ;)

Sharc
4th January 2011, 21:06
How is the sound after the compaction? I did a few tests, and couldn't notice much difference if any...
Sound is good. I don't really notice a pitch shift when comparing the recoded ac3 with the original DTS. The 'time stretch/tempo' algo seems to perform very well.

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 22:47
Ok. I think I was intimidated by a number which made no sense to me. I think it does now. E.g. "AUD_00125_4352". 4352 is simply a way of distinguishing a different audio track within a clip(4352 should be english, and 4360 could be Portuguese). AUD_00125, is part of VID_00125. It has simply been Demuxed. Sorry, i'm about as green as it gets. I'm more than anything explaining this to myself ;) Ok. But don't confuse that number with languages. It is the PID (packet identifier) that distinguishes elementary streams that are muxed within an M2TS. PID 4352 could be any language (not just English).

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 23:01
I mean that 4352 was/is english in this particular M2TS's case. I hope I don't look stupid for this :S

I'm officially throwing my arms up on this BD. I redid The Other Guys exactly as I did the first time, and now the audio is english. It appears some unkown error occurred, and I have no way of knowing what happened :( From now on, I rename the INF files in such a way(1st, 2nd, etc) that BD rebuilder can't overwrite it. It's a shame it doesn't offer doing this for testing purposes. Sorry about any grief I've caused.

Don't ever think for a moment, that you're a bad teacher. I have a problem focusing on things at times. Plus I'm more a hands on guy ;)

jdobbs
4th January 2011, 23:17
I mean that 4352 was/is english in this particular M2TS's case. I hope I don't look stupid for this :S I sometimes post answers for the sake of all who are reading, not necessarily just the person who's post I'm answering... that's why I made that clarification.

omegaman7
4th January 2011, 23:19
I post answers for the sake of all who are reading, not necessarily just the person who's post I'm answering... that's why I made that clarification.

Ahh, yep yep. That's the general idea for a forum :D

I have now burned a different media for The Other Guys. This burn worked well, so it was not the PS3 updates that were on the disc. I did doubt that LOL! I strongly recommend staying away from Optical Quantum(Philps media). They were decent at first, but now I'm noticing minor - major flaws in the dye's. I usually stick with Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden. But as you all know, they're currently rather spendy :(

JJB
4th January 2011, 23:58
Ahh, yep yep. That's the general idea for a forum :D

I have now burned a different media for The Other Guys. This burn worked well, so it was not the PS3 updates that were on the disc. I did doubt that LOL! I strongly recommend staying away from Optical Quantum(Philps media). They were decent at first, but now I'm noticing minor - major flaws in the dye's. I usually stick with Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden. But as you all know, they're currently rather spendy :(

I was not aware Ty made Blu-Ray disc. Do you have a link?

I have made about 150 backups using Optical Quantum (Blu-Ray) burning on 2 LG's and 1 Pioneer and have yet to have a failure verifying with Imgburn or watching them. Your setup maybe?;)

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 00:19
No.... I have used lights to reveal dark spots on the dye, which I find highly questionable. My setup is not the issue here. Thankfully! These spots cannot be read by either of my BD drives. They lock up trying to read through the spots. You're lucky you haven't experienced this. TY I don't worry about these spots. Dvds show high failures/errors when scanning with scan software, on these dark spots. TY discs seem to be ok with these imperfections, where as other media are questionable. I imagine BD discs are similarly the same. If you use the Quantum discs, strongly recommend not burning beyond 2X.

I've noticed that NEC chipped drives (Optiarcs) do well with spots like that. They seem to slow and adapt. Man I love nec! Can't wait for a True NEC optiarc Blu Ray burner!

JVC TY makes a BD-R LTH 4X disc, that was available in japan early last year. I haven't seen it in the states yet... :(

L4a-Thompson
5th January 2011, 00:23
hello,
i tested the new alternative pal and it works verry well. the sound and the movie streams are synchronous now.
but on the standalone dvd player on my tv i saw the change between the files from the original bd who they was merged by a verry small stop in the video.
if the bd movie have 100 files, i see 100 small stop`s in the merged dvd.
but if i look the dvd on my pc i don`t have these stop`s.

i`m sorry for my english but i do my best to write the right words i hope you guy`s understand my sentence.

a question i have about the subtitles: do you implement the subtitle function for the dvd output?

good night all

The_Unknown
5th January 2011, 00:24
@Jdobbs: Big thanks for the last update concerning the playlist linking routine!! This is a pleasure :)

Another question: In all of my backups, the subtitles are activated by default (mostly the English ones) so that I have to disable them while playing everytime. Do I have done something wrong in configure BD-RB?

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 00:29
I haven't had a subtitle problem with the BD's yet. Perhaps it's your player?

The_Unknown
5th January 2011, 00:32
The bug is in my Philips BDP7500/B2 and in the software players PowerDV 10 and Arcsoft Total Media Theatre :( But it's not really a problem. Just wanted to report it ;)

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 00:33
My version of TMT 3 and Powerdvd 10 are fine :confused:

The_Unknown
5th January 2011, 00:36
Mhm, don't know. It's strange because I didn't change anything concerning subtitle settings. Well, nevermind ;)

scsa
5th January 2011, 06:15
Bug Error 2203 I got it makes you delete your folder for the bd and then gives the error and you are sol because it makes the working files the size of the bd but you can't rebuild it since you have no bdmv or movie folder for it.

L4a-Thompson
5th January 2011, 11:50
@jdobbs
i tested the dvd output with the new alternate_Pal and without three times.
it worke`s great, the new alternate_Pal.
my question now: what is the diffrence between my pc and your, that your dvd output is synchronous without the alternat_Pal and i need the alternate_Pal?
are there any setting i have to set?

great work, keep it up!

mfg
Thompson

colinhunt
5th January 2011, 14:17
Hmmm... mono tracks are completely legal and BD-RB should handle them, although I'm not sure I have run into any.
I've done several discs that have mono PCM on them without problems. There's something odd about the audio on this particular m2ts file. I'll demux the tracks to see if I can find out anything more.

jdobbs
5th January 2011, 15:31
Bug Error 2203 I got it makes you delete your folder for the bd and then gives the error and you are sol because it makes the working files the size of the bd but you can't rebuild it since you have no bdmv or movie folder for it. A little information might help. There is no error 2203 -- that's a location. LOG file? INF file? INI file?

scsa
5th January 2011, 20:01
Jdobb I get it when I was using BDRebuilder and it was at 60 percent done it then asked if I wanted to overwrite the folder since there was already a folder with the same name which was the bd movie. I clicked yes and it erased everything and then gave the error. Thanks Oh and here is the error log file
01/04/11 [14:19:45] ScanDirectory() 00071 2603
01/04/11 [23:44:12] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:45:34] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:46:20] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:47:28] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203

laserfan
5th January 2011, 20:02
I tried 37.01 yesterday with an eye to the new Power change, my W7 x64 PC normally set to High Perf and "Sleep after 30 minutes", and the PC still went to Sleep/Standby while BD-RB was running:

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 1/4/2011 8:39:28 PM
Event ID: 42
Task Category: (64)
Level: Information
Keywords: (4)
User: N/A
Computer: Quadcore
Description: The system is entering sleep.
Sleep Reason: System Idle

From the BD log it appears it Slept during "Extracting A/V streams (VID_00007)", then I discovered that the PC was asleep and woke it at 21:19, upon which BD-RB dutifully resumed its operations no problem, and then I changed the Power Options to Sleep "Never" so it wouldn't do it again. The remaining processes ran w/o issue for another 14 hours or so and then the PC went to sleep again upon completion, as I'd selected the Shutdown/Sleep option in BD-RB):

- [16:24:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 73,191 frames
- Bitrate: 4,668 Kbs
- [16:24:28] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:23:06] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:35:38] Video Encode complete
- [20:35:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:35:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:37:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [21:27:25] Reencoding: VID_00007 (5 of 10)
- [21:27:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 75,266 frames
- Bitrate: 4,666 Kbs
- [21:27:25] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:28:24] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [01:49:20] Video Encode complete
- [01:49:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [01:49:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:51:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [02:03:44] Reencoding: VID_00008 (6 of 10)
- [02:03:44] Collecting video information...

I generally love Windows 7, but the aggressive power management changes are very annoying! :devil:

I dunno that this is worth your time to try to fix jdobbs; we users can just turn-off the friggin' PM when using BD-RB. :argh:

jdobbs
5th January 2011, 20:11
Jdobb I get it when I was using BDRebuilder and it was at 60 percent done it then asked if I wanted to overwrite the folder since there was already a folder with the same name which was the bd movie. I clicked yes and it erased everything and then gave the error. Thanks Oh and here is the error log file
01/04/11 [14:19:45] ScanDirectory() 00071 2603
01/04/11 [23:44:12] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:45:34] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:46:20] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203
01/04/11 [23:47:28] RebuildBDFiles() 00006 2203 What you're getting is an "Error 00071" at location 2603. Error 00071 means "Disc not ready". It's a hardware issue. You can get it when you are attempting to access a BD/DVD drive that is empty, from a nonexistent drive path, or from something that has been unmounted. Another less likely possiblity is a bad hard drive or a timeout on a network drive. That error is reported to BD-RB from the operating system.

The other errors are just a consequence of the first.

scsa
5th January 2011, 20:14
Thanks Jdobb so there is no way to get my movie back because the workfiles are the size of the bd. They are 42gb should I just erase them and not get the movie. Thanks

jdobbs
5th January 2011, 20:14
@Laserfan

I'll do some testing. I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right... when I set the flags and then check them from within BD-RB it says they are set correctly. Ughh...

jdobbs
5th January 2011, 20:16
I was not aware Ty made Blu-Ray disc. Do you have a link?

I have made about 150 backups using Optical Quantum (Blu-Ray) burning on 2 LG's and 1 Pioneer and have yet to have a failure verifying with Imgburn or watching them. Your setup maybe?;) I've used bunches of Optical Quantum discs too (well over 50)... no problems yet. Of course I guess there is always the chance of a bad batch.

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 20:21
Thats why I don't like running networked rebuilds. All that time put in to encoding, it would sure suck to be 99% complete, and have the network fail somehow. I can't seem to load networked folders anyway. I load a folder, and it says "Selected source is not BD format". Aww well. That's why my computers have multiple drives. Rebuilder is one of the few programs I can't network files. I drag folders across the network to any media player without hitch. Windows 7 networking really bothers me. XP I never had these issues. It's quite literally the only problem I have with windows 7 though, so I'll get over it :p

Yep Jdobbs, I got an obvious bad batch. One of the discs was revoltingly bad. I'm talking hundreds of dark spots. And unfortunately, the spots don't show up til burnt :(

jdobbs
5th January 2011, 20:23
Thats why I don't like running networked rebuilds. All that time put in to encoding, it would sure suck to be 99% complete, and have the network fail somehow. I can't seem to load networked folders anyway. I load a folder, and it says "Selected source is not BD format". Aww well. That's why my computers have multiple drives. Rebuilder is one of the few programs I can't network files. I drag folders across the network to any media player without hitch. Windows 7 networking really bothers me. XP I never had these issues. It's quite literally the only problem I have with windows 7 though, so I'll get over it :p

Yep Jdobbs, I got an obvious bad batch. One of the discs was revoltingly bad. I'm talking hundreds of dark spots. And unfortunately, the spots don't show up til burnt :( I use BD Rebuilder on my network all the time. In fact one of my computers does all it's disc I/O for video encoding through the nework. It's hard to blame a program for network issues. BD-RB just accesses the drive/data, it has no "special network routine". If there is an issue it is in either the network or the way the drive is shared.

I ran into a bad disc with spots that caused problems last year -- I can't remember the brand, I think maybe Ridata, but it was only one out of many...

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 20:28
It's likely something I haven't learned about windows 7. Which comes easily to everyone else :p I share the route of my W:\ drive so that everything is seen on my encoding machine. Perhaps after my next reinstall of windows, the problem will magically disappear LOL!

somethingelse
5th January 2011, 21:48
when I use the bdrebuilder i get only 1,6x Speed or 40FPS during conversion (BD-> BD9). i have a hexacore i7 980X and its using only 3 cores at around 50% or 6 threads at 50%. the harddrives do only 10Mb/s (2TB drives) and should be capable of a lot more . what might be the limiting factor here? all of the hardware is brandnew.
i would be greatful for any help

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 21:51
Are you overclocked? I've had an unstable clock, only use 3 of 4 cores before. And is that pass 1 or 2 you're talking about. Pass 2 rapes your cores :D

somethingelse
5th January 2011, 21:55
no, i use the standart 3,3ghz clock.
ah ok i understand, i might have to wait for the pass2. why is there a difference? or rephrase why does pass1 not go faster?

omegaman7
5th January 2011, 22:12
Jdobbs can answer that one better :o

somethingelse
5th January 2011, 22:20
ok i dont know if this means anything, but i use truecrypt AES on all drives and the sourcefile is a mounted iso file via daemon. i am close to pass2. i will let you know what happens

Warbucks81
5th January 2011, 22:26
when I use the bdrebuilder i get only 1,6x Speed or 40FPS during conversion (BD-> BD9). i have a hexacore i7 980X and its using only 3 cores at around 50% or 6 threads at 50%. the harddrives do only 10Mb/s (2TB drives) and should be capable of a lot more . what might be the limiting factor here? all of the hardware is brandnew.
i would be greatful for any help

Using two pass? The first pass won't max your cpu. The second pass will.

somethingelse
5th January 2011, 22:39
ok it's at pass2 now, all cores at around 70% with 33fps or 1,4x speed. the whole 21GB disc will take around 3,5h hours in the end. in the meantime i'm downloading stuff and surfin though the web. so i guess i'm not getting 100% on all cores with this CPU and it's normal?

IVaN_000
6th January 2011, 00:25
ok it's at pass2 now, all cores at around 70% with 33fps or 1,4x speed. the whole 21GB disc will take around 3,5h hours in the end. in the meantime i'm downloading stuff and surfin though the web. so i guess i'm not getting 100% on all cores with this CPU and it's normal?

Can you check HD usage with Resource Monitor?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1468087#post1468087
It shouldn't reach 100%.

bassnut
6th January 2011, 01:12
ok it's at pass2 now, all cores at around 70% with 33fps or 1,4x speed. the whole 21GB disc will take around 3,5h hours in the end. in the meantime i'm downloading stuff and surfin though the web. so i guess i'm not getting 100% on all cores with this CPU and it's normal?

I can't max my AMD 1090T either since I hit 3800 GHZ now at 4200GHZ and 24hrs Stable on prime and typically on the second pass I have all 6 cores working at about 65 - 70% thats with 6 threads ...... I do believe there is a limit at some point

jdobbs
6th January 2011, 01:50
when I use the bdrebuilder i get only 1,6x Speed or 40FPS during conversion (BD-> BD9). i have a hexacore i7 980X and its using only 3 cores at around 50% or 6 threads at 50%. the harddrives do only 10Mb/s (2TB drives) and should be capable of a lot more . what might be the limiting factor here? all of the hardware is brandnew.
i would be greatful for any help Actually that's pretty fast considering that you're probably defaulting to "High Quality" mode... don't forget you're encoding HD data here. Make sure you are looking at pass 2. Pass one rarely maxes out the CPUs, as it isn't employing a lot of the CPU intensive bells-and-whistles that are needed in pass 2. Pass one more-or-less is there to collect information for the final encode (pass 2).

I think when you get to the really fast multiple processors, the combination of the drives, codecs, and AVISYNTH are simply limiting how fast the frames can be pushed to the processors. While X264 is optimized for multiple processors -- not all the underlying apps are.

Just as a test, select "Use X264's internal LAVF" from the SETUP dialog. As long as you are doing straight up (no filters, etc) processing you may see a performance jump.

L4a-Thompson
6th January 2011, 16:10
bd rebuilder use the wrong playlist. in one case the first play list is longer than the second, 15 minutes.
but the first has one chapter and the main movie has the second playlist with 21 chapter.

now some sentence to the dvd output, i thing i give up.
i don`t get a well oiled dvd with this alternative output.

i change the codec in the ffdshow filter by mpeg2 from libmpeg2 to libavcodec -> there is a better synchronouse movie now but still second`s diffrence betweent the movie and the audio stream.
i get a jerking dvd, the stop is realy short, shorter than a layer change by a dvd.
but there are as much stop`s as the mainmovie files had.

here is my bd rebuilder ini

[Options]
VERSION=0.37.0.1
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;
B_PYRAMID=1
AUTO_BIAS=2
MKV_INTERMEDIATE=1
SHOW_ENCODER=0
HC_PROFILE=BEST
SECONDARY_USE_QUALITY=1
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
Alternate_Pal=0/1 i tryed with and without these option, with these option i get a synchronouse movie but the stop`s stay
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
AVSFilter01=LoadPlugin("D:\###\asharp.dll")
AVSFilter02=asharp(2,4,1.1,hqbf=true)
AVSFilter03=tweak(sat=1.09)
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\###\AVCHD\
SOURCE_PATH=H:\

have you guy`s some idea why i have these problems?

jdobbs
6th January 2011, 16:41
There is nothing on a BD that says what playlist is the main feature. BD Rebuilder uses an algorithm to choose one, and is right 99.9% of the time. When it isn't right -- you need to choose a different one. That's why "Other movie-only playlist" is a choice in the mode menu.

As for your playback problems... it sure doesn't sound like a BD-RB problem, more likely media or burner. But I'd need to see it to know for sure, and that's not likely to happen.

Anyone else having issues with DVD output?

laserfan
6th January 2011, 17:25
Regarding "Windows 7 goes to sleep in the middle of a process":I'm pretty sure I'm doing it right... when I set the flags and then check them from within BD-RB it says they are set correctly. Ughh...
I have surfed enough on this issue to know it is a Not Uncommon problem. The irony of course is that by making Power Management so difficult, MS has driven some significant number of PC users away from power saving features altogether...

L4a-Thompson
6th January 2011, 17:43
if there is no one with this probleme i try the dvd output until i have found my false setting
my os ist windows 7 ultimate 64bit and i use powerdvd 10 and mplayer classic for my playback

jdobbs
6th January 2011, 18:09
if there is no one with this probleme i try the dvd output until i have found my false setting
my os ist windows 7 ultimate 64bit and i use powerdvd 10 and mplayer classic for my playback What is your ALTERNATE_PAL setting set to? You need to either delete it or set it to "0" or "1". The "0/1" I see there now isn't correct.

L4a-Thompson
6th January 2011, 18:51
i tested both settings Alternativ_Pal=1 for on and alternativ_Pal=0 for off
i would like to show that i have used both settings but not at the same time

sorry

oh and the avchd dl dvd output workes fine, the best at the end ^^

KeVe1983
6th January 2011, 23:35
jdobbs a little Problem with A Christmas Carol Bluray

Did a BD25 encode a few weeks ago with 36.06 and the Output size is 25.9 GB

So now i did a BD25 encode of the 25.9 GB encoded Disc with 37.01 and the output size is 25.8 GB
So i cant get the movie to fit on a BD25.
So for the Main Movie BDRB encodes the secondary Video track, but the Main Video Track will not b encoded.

Settings:

BD25
Quicker Encodes for Extras
Automatic Settings

-----------------------
[15:35:05] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: CCS1EGE1
- Input BD size: 35,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:30:12.919]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[15:35:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:35:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [15:35:06] Reencoding: VID_00017 (1 of 89)
- [15:35:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 24 frames
- [15:35:06] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:07] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [15:35:08] Reencoding: VID_00123 (2 of 89)
- [15:35:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 120 frames
- [15:35:08] Reencoding: VID_00123, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:10] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00091]
- [15:35:11] Reencoding: VID_00091 (3 of 89)
- [15:35:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 120 frames
- [15:35:11] Reencoding: VID_00091, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:13] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00117]
- [15:35:14] Reencoding: VID_00117 (4 of 89)
- [15:35:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 120 frames
- [15:35:14] Reencoding: VID_00117, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:16] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00113]
- [15:35:17] Reencoding: VID_00113 (5 of 89)
- [15:35:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 120 frames
- [15:35:17] Reencoding: VID_00113, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:19] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
- [15:35:21] Reencoding: VID_00050 (6 of 89)
- [15:35:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 76 frames
- [15:35:21] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:23] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [15:35:24] Reencoding: VID_00011 (7 of 89)
- [15:35:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:24] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:26] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [15:35:27] Reencoding: VID_00012 (8 of 89)
- [15:35:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:27] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:30] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [15:35:31] Reencoding: VID_00013 (9 of 89)
- [15:35:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:31] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:33] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [15:35:35] Reencoding: VID_00034 (10 of 89)
- [15:35:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:35] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:37] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00038]
- [15:35:38] Reencoding: VID_00038 (11 of 89)
- [15:35:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:38] Reencoding: VID_00038, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:41] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [15:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00022 (12 of 89)
- [15:35:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:42] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:45] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [15:35:46] Reencoding: VID_00024 (13 of 89)
- [15:35:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:46] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:49] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00033]
- [15:35:50] Reencoding: VID_00033 (14 of 89)
- [15:35:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:50] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:52] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [15:35:54] Reencoding: VID_00040 (15 of 89)
- [15:35:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:54] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:35:56] Video Encode complete
- [15:35:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:35:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:35:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00048]
- [15:35:57] Reencoding: VID_00048 (16 of 89)
- [15:35:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:35:57] Reencoding: VID_00048, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:00] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [15:36:01] Reencoding: VID_00023 (17 of 89)
- [15:36:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:01] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:04] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [15:36:05] Reencoding: VID_00031 (18 of 89)
- [15:36:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:05] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:07] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [15:36:09] Reencoding: VID_00036 (19 of 89)
- [15:36:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:09] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:11] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [15:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00037 (20 of 89)
- [15:36:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:12] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:15] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [15:36:16] Reencoding: VID_00041 (21 of 89)
- [15:36:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:16] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:19] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [15:36:20] Reencoding: VID_00042 (22 of 89)
- [15:36:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:20] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:22] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00045]
- [15:36:24] Reencoding: VID_00045 (23 of 89)
- [15:36:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:24] Reencoding: VID_00045, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:26] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:26] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00047]
- [15:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00047 (24 of 89)
- [15:36:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00047, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:30] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00049]
- [15:36:31] Reencoding: VID_00049 (25 of 89)
- [15:36:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:31] Reencoding: VID_00049, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:33] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [15:36:34] Reencoding: VID_00032 (26 of 89)
- [15:36:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:34] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:37] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [15:36:38] Reencoding: VID_00035 (27 of 89)
- [15:36:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:38] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:41] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [15:36:42] Reencoding: VID_00039 (28 of 89)
- [15:36:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:42] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:45] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00043]
- [15:36:46] Reencoding: VID_00043 (29 of 89)
- [15:36:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:46] Reencoding: VID_00043, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:49] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00044]
- [15:36:50] Reencoding: VID_00044 (30 of 89)
- [15:36:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:50] Reencoding: VID_00044, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:52] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00046]
- [15:36:54] Reencoding: VID_00046 (31 of 89)
- [15:36:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 90 frames
- [15:36:54] Reencoding: VID_00046, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:36:56] Video Encode complete
- [15:36:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:36:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:36:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00060]
- [15:36:57] Reencoding: VID_00060 (32 of 89)
- [15:36:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 91 frames
- [15:36:57] Reencoding: VID_00060, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:00] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00065]
- [15:37:01] Reencoding: VID_00065 (33 of 89)
- [15:37:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 97 frames
- [15:37:01] Reencoding: VID_00065, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:04] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00063]
- [15:37:05] Reencoding: VID_00063 (34 of 89)
- [15:37:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 103 frames
- [15:37:05] Reencoding: VID_00063, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:07] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00075]
- [15:37:08] Reencoding: VID_00075 (35 of 89)
- [15:37:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 103 frames
- [15:37:08] Reencoding: VID_00075, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:11] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00070]
- [15:37:12] Reencoding: VID_00070 (36 of 89)
- [15:37:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 104 frames
- [15:37:12] Reencoding: VID_00070, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:15] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00068]
- [15:37:16] Reencoding: VID_00068 (37 of 89)
- [15:37:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 111 frames
- [15:37:16] Reencoding: VID_00068, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:19] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
- [15:37:20] Reencoding: VID_00062 (38 of 89)
- [15:37:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 112 frames
- [15:37:20] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:37:23] Video Encode complete
- [15:37:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:37:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:37:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [15:37:24] Reencoding: VID_00094 (39 of 89)
- [15:37:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 72 frames

KeVe1983
6th January 2011, 23:36
I have to cut it a little bir, because my message is to long


- [15:39:04] Reencoding: VID_00069 (61 of 89)
- [15:39:04] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
- [15:39:04] Reencoding: VID_00069, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:39:08] Video Encode complete
- [15:39:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:39:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:39:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
- [15:39:09] Reencoding: VID_00064 (62 of 89)
- [15:39:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 192 frames
- [15:39:09] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:39:14] Video Encode complete
- [15:39:14] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:39:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:39:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00072]
- [15:39:15] Reencoding: VID_00072 (63 of 89)
- [15:39:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 219 frames
- [15:39:15] Reencoding: VID_00072, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:39:20] Video Encode complete
- [15:39:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:39:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:39:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00119]
- [15:39:21] Reencoding: VID_00119 (64 of 89)
- [15:39:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 864 frames
- [15:39:21] Reencoding: VID_00119, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:39:33] Video Encode complete
- [15:39:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:39:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:39:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [15:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00108 (65 of 89)
- [15:39:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 864 frames
- [15:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00108, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:39:45] Video Encode complete
- [15:39:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:39:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:39:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [15:39:47] Reencoding: VID_00090 (66 of 89)
- [15:39:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 864 frames
- [15:39:47] Reencoding: VID_00090, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:39:58] Video Encode complete
- [15:39:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:39:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:39:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [15:40:00] Reencoding: VID_00104 (67 of 89)
- [15:40:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 864 frames
- [15:40:01] Reencoding: VID_00104, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:40:12] Video Encode complete
- [15:40:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:40:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:40:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [15:40:14] Reencoding: VID_00074 (68 of 89)
- [15:40:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 299 frames
- [15:40:14] Reencoding: VID_00074, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:40:20] Video Encode complete
- [15:40:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:40:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:40:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [15:40:23] Reencoding: VID_00089 (69 of 89)
- [15:40:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.416 frames
- [15:40:23] Reencoding: VID_00089, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:40:41] Video Encode complete
- [15:40:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:40:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:40:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [15:40:45] Reencoding: VID_00102 (70 of 89)
- [15:40:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.416 frames
- [15:40:45] Reencoding: VID_00102, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:41:03] Video Encode complete
- [15:41:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:41:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:41:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [15:41:06] Reencoding: VID_00107 (71 of 89)
- [15:41:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.416 frames
- [15:41:07] Reencoding: VID_00107, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:41:25] Video Encode complete
- [15:41:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:41:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:41:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00118]
- [15:41:28] Reencoding: VID_00118 (72 of 89)
- [15:41:28] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.416 frames
- [15:41:28] Reencoding: VID_00118, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:41:47] Video Encode complete
- [15:41:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:41:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:41:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00137]
- [15:41:51] Reencoding: VID_00137 (73 of 89)
- [15:41:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 803 frames
- [15:41:51] Reencoding: VID_00137, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:42:07] Video Encode complete
- [15:42:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:42:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:42:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [15:42:11] Reencoding: VID_00093 (74 of 89)
- [15:42:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 799 frames
- [15:42:11] Reencoding: VID_00093, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:42:27] Video Encode complete
- [15:42:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:42:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:42:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [15:42:32] Reencoding: VID_00095 (75 of 89)
- [15:42:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 864 frames
- [15:42:32] Reencoding: VID_00095, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:42:50] Video Encode complete
- [15:42:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:42:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:42:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [15:42:54] Reencoding: VID_00092 (76 of 89)
- [15:42:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 916 frames
- [15:42:54] Reencoding: VID_00092, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:43:12] Video Encode complete
- [15:43:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:43:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:43:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [15:43:17] Reencoding: VID_00130 (77 of 89)
- [15:43:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.465 frames
- [15:43:17] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:43:43] Video Encode complete
- [15:43:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:43:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:43:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [15:43:48] Reencoding: VID_00081 (78 of 89)
- [15:43:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.416 frames
- [15:43:48] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:44:16] Video Encode complete
- [15:44:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:44:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:44:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [15:44:22] Reencoding: VID_00096 (79 of 89)
- [15:44:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.426 frames
- [15:44:22] Reencoding: VID_00096, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:44:53] Video Encode complete
- [15:44:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:44:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:44:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00129]
- [15:44:59] Reencoding: VID_00129 (80 of 89)
- [15:44:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.581 frames
- [15:44:59] Reencoding: VID_00129, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:45:33] Video Encode complete
- [15:45:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:45:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:45:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [15:45:40] Reencoding: VID_00131 (81 of 89)
- [15:45:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.825 frames
- [15:45:40] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:46:18] Video Encode complete
- [15:46:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:46:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:46:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00124]
- [15:46:26] Reencoding: VID_00124 (82 of 89)
- [15:46:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.843 frames
- [15:46:26] Reencoding: VID_00124, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:47:09] Video Encode complete
- [15:47:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:47:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:47:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [15:47:20] Reencoding: VID_00099 (83 of 89)
- [15:47:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.709 frames
- [15:47:20] Reencoding: VID_00099, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:48:27] Video Encode complete
- [15:48:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:48:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:48:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
- [15:48:39] Reencoding: VID_00132 (84 of 89)
- [15:48:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.762 frames
- [15:48:39] Reencoding: VID_00132, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:49:45] Video Encode complete
- [15:49:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:49:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:49:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00126]
- [15:49:57] Reencoding: VID_00126 (85 of 89)
- [15:49:57] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.225 frames
- [15:49:57] Reencoding: VID_00126, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:51:04] Video Encode complete
- [15:51:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:51:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:51:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00106]
- [15:51:26] Reencoding: VID_00106 (86 of 89)
- [15:51:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6.328 frames
- [15:51:26] Reencoding: VID_00106, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:53:35] Video Encode complete
- [15:53:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:53:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:53:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [15:54:33] Reencoding: VID_00010 (87 of 89)
- [15:54:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 12.466 frames
- [15:54:34] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [15:58:39] Video Encode complete
- [15:58:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:58:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [15:58:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00098]
- [16:00:06] Reencoding: VID_00098 (88 of 89)
- [16:00:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 21.172 frames
- [16:00:06] Reencoding: VID_00098, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:08:51] Video Encode complete
- [16:08:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:08:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [16:09:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [16:28:04] Reencoding: VID_00000 (89 of 89)
- [16:28:05] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [16:39:41] Collecting video information
- [16:39:41] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [16:39:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:39:41] Multiplexing M2TS
[16:54:02]PHASE ONE complete
[16:54:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:54:02] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:54:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[16:54:26]JOB: CCS1EGE1 finished.

Michael44
7th January 2011, 03:20
Hi, can someone take a look at my log file and help me understand why this failed? Thanks.

-----------------------
[16:59:39] BD Rebuilder v0.36.09 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D1
- Input BD size: 27.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:59:39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:59:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00296]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00296]
- Extracting A/V from M2TS [VID_00296]
- [17:09:31] Reencoding: VID_00296 (1 of 47)
- [17:09:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,063 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [17:09:31] Reencoding: VID_00296, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:12:15] Video Encode complete
- [17:12:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:18:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:18:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00320]
- [17:19:00] Reencoding: VID_00320 (2 of 47)
- [17:19:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 661 frames
- Bitrate: 27,320 Kbs
- [17:19:00] Reencoding: VID_00320, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:20:29] Video Encode complete
- [17:20:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:20:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00297]
- [17:20:47] Reencoding: VID_00297 (3 of 47)
- [17:20:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,869 frames
- Bitrate: 28,899 Kbs
- [17:20:47] Reencoding: VID_00297, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:27:36] Video Encode complete
- [17:27:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:27:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00321]
- [17:27:54] Reencoding: VID_00321 (4 of 47)
- [17:27:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 447 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [17:27:54] Reencoding: VID_00321, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:29:02] Video Encode complete
- [17:29:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:29:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00298]
- [17:29:11] Reencoding: VID_00298 (5 of 47)
- [17:29:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,109 frames
- Bitrate: 28,322 Kbs
- [17:29:11] Reencoding: VID_00298, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:31:47] Video Encode complete
- [17:31:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:31:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00322]
- [17:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00322 (6 of 47)
- [17:31:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 302 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [17:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00322, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:32:41] Video Encode complete
- [17:32:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:32:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00299]
- [17:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00299 (7 of 47)
- [17:33:36] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,484 frames
- Bitrate: 29,008 Kbs
- [17:33:37] Reencoding: VID_00299, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:57:49] Video Encode complete
- [17:57:49] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:58:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00323]
- [17:58:54] Reencoding: VID_00323 (8 of 47)
- [17:58:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,995 frames
- Bitrate: 27,982 Kbs
- [17:58:54] Reencoding: VID_00323, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:03:20] Video Encode complete
- [18:03:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:03:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301]
- [18:03:37] Reencoding: VID_00301 (9 of 47)
- [18:03:37] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 649 frames
- Bitrate: 28,546 Kbs
- [18:03:37] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:05:06] Video Encode complete
- [18:05:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:05:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00324]
- [18:05:16] Reencoding: VID_00324 (10 of 47)
- [18:05:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,185 frames
- Bitrate: 28,428 Kbs
- [18:05:17] Reencoding: VID_00324, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:08:03] Video Encode complete
- [18:08:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:08:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302]
- [18:08:20] Reencoding: VID_00302 (11 of 47)
- [18:08:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,738 frames
- Bitrate: 28,803 Kbs
- [18:08:20] Reencoding: VID_00302, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:12:15] Video Encode complete
- [18:12:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:12:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00325]
- [18:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00325 (12 of 47)
- [18:12:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 523 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [18:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00325, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:13:50] Video Encode complete
- [18:13:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:13:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00303]
- [18:14:00] Reencoding: VID_00303 (13 of 47)
- [18:14:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,030 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [18:14:00] Reencoding: VID_00303, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:16:28] Video Encode complete
- [18:16:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:16:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00326]
- [18:16:47] Reencoding: VID_00326 (14 of 47)
- [18:16:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,027 frames
- Bitrate: 29,550 Kbs
- [18:16:47] Reencoding: VID_00326, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:21:25] Video Encode complete
- [18:21:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:21:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00304]
- [18:21:47] Reencoding: VID_00304 (15 of 47)
- [18:21:48] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,823 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [18:21:48] Reencoding: VID_00304, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:26:11] Video Encode complete
- [18:26:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:26:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00327]
- [18:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00327 (16 of 47)
- [18:26:27] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 746 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [18:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00327, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:28:17] Video Encode complete
- [18:28:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:28:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00305]
- [18:28:26] Reencoding: VID_00305 (17 of 47)
- [18:28:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 638 frames
- Bitrate: 27,777 Kbs
- [18:28:26] Reencoding: VID_00305, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:29:51] Video Encode complete
- [18:29:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:29:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00328]
- [18:30:01] Reencoding: VID_00328 (18 of 47)
- [18:30:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,018 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [18:30:01] Reencoding: VID_00328, Pass 1 of 1
- [18:32:28] Video Encode complete
- [18:32:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [18:32:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00306]
- [18:35:31] Reencoding: VID_00306 (19 of 47)
- [18:35:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 31,686 frames
- Bitrate: 29,189 Kbs
- [18:35:31] Reencoding: VID_00306, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:47:37] Video Encode complete
- [19:47:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:50:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00329]
- [19:50:35] Reencoding: VID_00329 (20 of 47)
- [19:50:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,185 frames
- Bitrate: 29,538 Kbs
- [19:50:35] Reencoding: VID_00329, Pass 1 of 1
- [19:55:43] Video Encode complete
- [19:55:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [19:55:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00307]
- [19:56:25] Reencoding: VID_00307 (21 of 47)
- [19:56:25] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,341 frames
- Bitrate: 28,940 Kbs
- [19:56:25] Reencoding: VID_00307, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:08:58] Video Encode complete
- [20:08:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:09:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00330]
- [20:09:32] Reencoding: VID_00330 (22 of 47)
- [20:09:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 812 frames
- Bitrate: 26,921 Kbs
- [20:09:32] Reencoding: VID_00330, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:11:25] Video Encode complete
- [20:11:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:11:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00308]
- [20:11:39] Reencoding: VID_00308 (23 of 47)
- [20:11:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,939 frames
- Bitrate: 27,344 Kbs
- [20:11:39] Reencoding: VID_00308, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:16:09] Video Encode complete
- [20:16:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:16:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00331]
- [20:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00331 (24 of 47)
- [20:16:36] Collecting video information

Michael44
7th January 2011, 03:20
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,906 frames
- Bitrate: 29,204 Kbs
- [20:16:36] Reencoding: VID_00331, Pass 1 of 1
- [20:23:26] Video Encode complete
- [20:23:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:23:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00309]
- [20:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00309 (25 of 47)
- [20:25:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 18,985 frames
- Bitrate: 28,446 Kbs
- [20:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00309, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:18] Video Encode complete
- [21:08:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:09:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00341]
- [21:10:01] Reencoding: VID_00341 (26 of 47)
- [21:10:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 700 frames
- Bitrate: 28,129 Kbs
- [21:10:01] Reencoding: VID_00341, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:11:38] Video Encode complete
- [21:11:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:11:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00310]
- [21:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00310 (27 of 47)
- [21:11:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,583 frames
- Bitrate: 27,583 Kbs
- [21:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00310, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:15:19] Video Encode complete
- [21:15:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:15:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00332]
- [21:15:40] Reencoding: VID_00332 (28 of 47)
- [21:15:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,346 frames
- Bitrate: 28,059 Kbs
- [21:15:40] Reencoding: VID_00332, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:21:00] Video Encode complete
- [21:21:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:21:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00311]
- [21:21:29] Reencoding: VID_00311 (29 of 47)
- [21:21:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,882 frames
- Bitrate: 29,055 Kbs
- [21:21:29] Reencoding: VID_00311, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:28:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:28:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:28:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00333]
- [21:28:32] Reencoding: VID_00333 (30 of 47)
- [21:28:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,147 frames
- Bitrate: 28,037 Kbs
- [21:28:33] Reencoding: VID_00333, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:33:24] Video Encode complete
- [21:33:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:33:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00312]
- [21:33:54] Reencoding: VID_00312 (31 of 47)
- [21:33:54] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,184 frames
- Bitrate: 29,266 Kbs
- [21:33:54] Reencoding: VID_00312, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:41:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:41:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:41:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00334]
- [21:41:26] Reencoding: VID_00334 (32 of 47)
- [21:41:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 547 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [21:41:26] Reencoding: VID_00334, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:42:47] Video Encode complete
- [21:42:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:42:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00313]
- [21:42:56] Reencoding: VID_00313 (33 of 47)
- [21:42:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 939 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [21:42:56] Reencoding: VID_00313, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:45:04] Video Encode complete
- [21:45:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:45:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00335]
- [21:45:18] Reencoding: VID_00335 (34 of 47)
- [21:45:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,363 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [21:45:18] Reencoding: VID_00335, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:48:37] Video Encode complete
- [21:48:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:48:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00314]
- [21:48:56] Reencoding: VID_00314 (35 of 47)
- [21:48:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,776 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [21:48:57] Reencoding: VID_00314, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:53:22] Video Encode complete
- [21:53:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:53:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00336]
- [21:53:42] Reencoding: VID_00336 (36 of 47)
- [21:53:42] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,371 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [21:53:42] Reencoding: VID_00336, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:57:11] Video Encode complete
- [21:57:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:57:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00315]
- [21:57:35] Reencoding: VID_00315 (37 of 47)
- [21:57:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,705 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [21:57:35] Reencoding: VID_00315, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:04:26] Video Encode complete
- [22:04:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:04:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00337]
- [22:04:47] Reencoding: VID_00337 (38 of 47)
- [22:04:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 510 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [22:04:47] Reencoding: VID_00337, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:06:07] Video Encode complete
- [22:06:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:06:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00316]
- [22:06:47] Reencoding: VID_00316 (39 of 47)
- [22:06:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,054 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [22:06:47] Reencoding: VID_00316, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:21:37] Video Encode complete
- [22:21:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:22:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00338]
- [22:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00338 (40 of 47)
- [22:22:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,337 frames
- Bitrate: 27,786 Kbs
- [22:22:45] Reencoding: VID_00338, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:36:53] Video Encode complete
- [22:36:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:37:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00317]
- [22:38:05] Reencoding: VID_00317 (41 of 47)
- [22:38:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,058 frames
- Bitrate: 27,423 Kbs
- [22:38:05] Reencoding: VID_00317, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:53:52] Video Encode complete
- [22:53:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:54:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00339]
- [22:54:43] Reencoding: VID_00339 (42 of 47)
- [22:54:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,295 frames
- Bitrate: 29,016 Kbs
- [22:54:43] Reencoding: VID_00339, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:59:58] Video Encode complete
- [22:59:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:00:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00318]
- [23:00:15] Reencoding: VID_00318 (43 of 47)
- [23:00:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 583 frames
- Bitrate: 29,103 Kbs
- [23:00:15] Reencoding: VID_00318, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:01:37] Video Encode complete
- [23:01:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:01:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00340]
- [23:01:44] Reencoding: VID_00340 (44 of 47)
- [23:01:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 570 frames
- Bitrate: 28,161 Kbs
- [23:01:44] Reencoding: VID_00340, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:03:00] Video Encode complete
- [23:03:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:03:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00319]
- [23:03:19] Reencoding: VID_00319 (45 of 47)
- [23:03:19] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,804 frames
- Bitrate: 28,531 Kbs
- [23:03:19] Reencoding: VID_00319, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:09:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:09:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:09:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00477]
- [23:10:09] Reencoding: VID_00477 (46 of 47)
- [23:10:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,959 frames
- Bitrate: 21,762 Kbs
- [23:10:10] Reencoding: VID_00477, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:19:14] Video Encode complete
- [23:19:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:19:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00342]
- [23:19:41] Reencoding: VID_00342 (47 of 47)
- [23:19:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 659 frames
- Bitrate: 30,000 Kbs
- [23:19:41] Reencoding: VID_00342, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:21:21] Video Encode complete
- [23:21:21] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:21:25]PHASE ONE complete
[23:21:25]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23:21:25] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:39:59] - Failed to REBUILD

MILLZY
7th January 2011, 15:48
Seem to have come across this problem a few times now were there would be no audio on one single episode on a disc. Came across it the first time backing up Sherlock season 1. Also lately fringe season 1 & 2.

Disc 3 season 2 of fringe:

[Status]
LABEL=DISC3
VERSION=v0.36.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39846014067
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39483555840
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.61491619122114
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=6
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00027]
AUDIO=10
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=4000307471
RATE=10396
NSTART=27000000
NEND=146145600
NSIZE=3847618560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00028]
AUDIO=00
PGS=0000
M2TS_TARGET=4039194119
RATE=11388
NSTART=27000000
NEND=145702958
NSIZE=3896727552
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
AUDIO=10
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=4107162015
RATE=10688
NSTART=27000000
NEND=146092320
NSIZE=3936442368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=10
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=4174679803
RATE=10898
NSTART=27000000
NEND=145670400
NSIZE=4000862208
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00026]
AUDIO=10
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=4292063350
RATE=11239
NSTART=27000000
NEND=145739520
NSIZE=4108572672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1010
PGS=11111111
M2TS_TARGET=4488854413
RATE=11546
NSTART=27000000
NEND=146122560
NSIZE=4290551808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[20:40:38] BD Rebuilder v0.36.06 (beta)
- Source: DISC3
- Input BD size: 37.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:24:10.084]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[20:40:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:40:41] Reencoding: VID_00028 (2 of 6)
- [20:40:41] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 63,246 frames
- Bitrate: 11,388 Kbs
- [20:40:41] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:37:21] Video Encode complete
- [21:37:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:37:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:42:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [21:46:45] Reencoding: VID_00023 (3 of 6)
- [21:46:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 63,429 frames
- Bitrate: 10,688 Kbs
- [21:46:45] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:42:15] Video Encode complete
- [22:42:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:43:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:48:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [22:52:35] Reencoding: VID_00022 (4 of 6)
- [22:52:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 63,204 frames
- Bitrate: 10,898 Kbs
- [22:52:35] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:48:17] Video Encode complete
- [23:48:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:49:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:54:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [23:58:39] Reencoding: VID_00026 (5 of 6)
- [23:58:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 63,241 frames
- Bitrate: 11,239 Kbs
- [23:58:39] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:54:58] Video Encode complete
- [00:54:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:55:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [01:01:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [01:05:32] Reencoding: VID_00021 (6 of 6)
- [01:05:32] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 63,445 frames
- Bitrate: 11,546 Kbs
- [01:05:32] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [01:59:29] Video Encode complete
- [01:59:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:00:41] Multiplexing M2TS
[02:06:00]PHASE ONE complete
[02:06:00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [02:06:00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[02:06:27] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[02:06:27] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[02:36:52]JOB: DISC3 finished.
-----------------------
[Options]
VERSION=0.36.0.6
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=3
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=K:\BD-REBUILDER WORK FILES\

Cannot seem to find the problem :confused:

Thanks........

jdobbs
7th January 2011, 15:52
Seem to have come across this problem a few times now were there would be no audio on one single episode on a disc. Came across it the first time backing up Sherlock season 1. Also lately fringe season 1 & 2.

Disc 3 season 2 of fringe:

Cannot seem to find the problem :confused:

Thanks........Which episode? It looks like 00021 is a little different than the others (two english audio tracks).

MILLZY
7th January 2011, 16:04
Which episode? It looks like 00021 is a little different than the others (two english audio tracks).

It is episode 18 on disc 3 (the man from the other side) any idea what it might be JD.

Just checked the audio streams in BD Rebuilder for 00021 and there are another 2 english AC3 streams that are blanked. but in the other episodes on the same disc there is only one english audio stream.

bluestarCVO
7th January 2011, 19:16
I'll probably change it to use the selected size settings... I'm starting to think the independent CRF setting is just too confusing.

Did you ever make this change so that the size of the mkv can be set? I've just started using the mkv output option now that I am able to keep the HD audio and was wanting to be able to also set a custom size. Can this be done yet or will it possibly be an option in the future?

Thanks!

jdobbs
7th January 2011, 20:38
Did you ever make this change so that the size of the mkv can be set? I've just started using the mkv output option now that I am able to keep the HD audio and was wanting to be able to also set a custom size. Can this be done yet or will it possibly be an option in the future?

Thanks!I haven't made that change yet.

omegaman7
7th January 2011, 20:41
Anybody have trouble playing the other guys on the PS3? Apparently there's a nasty embedded feature(Cinavia), which mutes the audio. Backup plays fine on the BluRay player, but not the PS3. How wonderful LOL! Apparently its some kind of watermark in the DTS track.

MILLZY
7th January 2011, 20:58
Anybody have trouble playing the other guys on the PS3? Apparently there's a nasty embedded feature(Cinavia), which mutes the audio. Backup plays fine on the BluRay player, but not the PS3. How wonderful LOL! Apparently its some kind of watermark in the DTS track.


Read this thread mate,

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155627

omegaman7
7th January 2011, 21:03
Thanks millzy, I've been reading about it since that post ;) Thanks for your help though.

MILLZY
7th January 2011, 21:11
Your welcome mate, JD any more thoughts on my predicament! Will run it again tonight with the three eng audio streams selected for that 00021 and see what happens. Should not be happening though should it!
They were also all done in batch mode..........

setarip_old
7th January 2011, 22:11
@omegaman7

Hi!

The only PS3s that are affected by "Cinavia" have firmware updates v.3.15 or newer...

LowDead
8th January 2011, 02:39
If anyone have posted this before, then my apologies.

My hardware setup is as follows. Due to the on/off switch on the monitor being broken I have told my win7 to put it asleep after a while. The computer is always awake.

The new bd-rb keeps my monitor awake during the complete process, then when it is done it nicely goes to sleep..

Is there a hidden option not to use the new sleep stopping function?

//LD

jdobbs
8th January 2011, 05:20
If anyone have posted this before, then my apologies.

My hardware setup is as follows. Due to the on/off switch on the monitor being broken I have told my win7 to put it asleep after a while. The computer is always awake.

The new bd-rb keeps my monitor awake during the complete process, then when it is done it nicely goes to sleep..

Is there a hidden option not to use the new sleep stopping function?

//LD
Hmmm... Not now. I'll come up with something.

Sharc
8th January 2011, 09:55
@jdobbs
I may have found a bug in BD-RB v037.01 beta. All goes smooth, but Rebuilding fails.
......[05:41:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:41:14] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Non standart fps value do not supported for PGS streams
[05:41:32] - Failed to REBUILD

Here my findings:
Source is 24.000 fps. Movie-only mode. Resize to 720p.
All .avs scripts including the MUX_00000.meta declare fps=24 correctly, with the exception of the last MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta which sets for video and subtitles fps=59.97

colinhunt
8th January 2011, 14:09
That Audio Re-encode error that occurred on Peeping Tom happened again, this time on a full backup of Treasure of Sierra Madre. Log:

[02:49:20] BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Source: (BD35)_TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE
- Input BD size: 34,99 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:58:23.478]
- Target BD size: 23,54 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[02:49:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:49:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [02:49:31] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 14)
- [02:49:31] Collecting video information
- [02:49:31] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [02:49:31] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:49:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [02:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 14)
- [02:58:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 181*465 frames
- Bitrate: 12*907 Kbs
- [02:58:09] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:03:02] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:43:21] Video Encode complete
- [10:43:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:43:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:05:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [11:05:22] Reencoding: VID_00006 (3 of 14)
- [11:05:22] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4*351 frames
- Bitrate: 1*423 Kbs
- [11:05:22] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:05:59] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:06:51] Video Encode complete
- [11:06:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:06:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:06:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [11:07:01] Reencoding: VID_00010 (4 of 14)
- [11:07:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6*781 frames
- Bitrate: 2*987 Kbs
- [11:07:01] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:08:06] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:09:50] Video Encode complete
- [11:09:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:09:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:09:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [11:09:58] Reencoding: VID_00017 (5 of 14)
- [11:09:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 8*551 frames
- Bitrate: 2*882 Kbs
- [11:09:58] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:11:20] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:13:41] Video Encode complete
- [11:13:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:13:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:13:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [11:13:51] Reencoding: VID_00020 (6 of 14)
- [11:13:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 19*591 frames
- Bitrate: 675 Kbs
- [11:13:51] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:16:56] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:21:45] Video Encode complete
- [11:21:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:21:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:21:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [11:21:56] Reencoding: VID_00021 (7 of 14)
- [11:21:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 12*901 frames
- Bitrate: 1*081 Kbs
- [11:21:56] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 2
- [11:24:07] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 2 of 2
- [11:28:21] Video Encode complete
- [11:28:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:28:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:28:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [11:30:11] Reencoding: VID_00022 (8 of 14)
- [11:30:11] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 230*585 frames
- Bitrate: 2*936 Kbs
- [11:30:11] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:19:35] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:13:34] Video Encode complete
- [13:13:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:13:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:15:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [13:15:49] Reencoding: VID_00023 (9 of 14)
- [13:15:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 89*825 frames
- Bitrate: 2*947 Kbs
- [13:15:49] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:29:33] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:48:19] Video Encode complete
- [13:48:19] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:48:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:48:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [13:48:55] Reencoding: VID_00024 (10 of 14)
- [13:48:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 12*841 frames
- Bitrate: 1*054 Kbs
- [13:48:55] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:50:35] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 2 of 2
- [13:52:56] Video Encode complete
- [13:52:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:52:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:53:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [13:53:07] Reencoding: VID_00026 (11 of 14)
- [13:53:07] Collecting video information
- [13:53:07] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:53:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:53:08] ReencodeAudio() 00075 1801
[15:12:32] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

BD-RB's Error Condition window reads
BD Rebuilder experienced an error 1801 [13:53:08] ReencodeAudio()
00075 1801

Here's MediaInfo output of 00026.m2ts:
General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : W:\video\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 375 MiB
Duration : 2mn 4s
Overall bit rate : 25.2 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format profile : AP@L3
Codec ID : 234
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate : 11.9 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.239
Stream size : 177 MiB (47%)

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #4
ID : 4355 (0x1103)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #5
ID : 4356 (0x1104)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #6
ID : 4357 (0x1105)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #7
ID : 4358 (0x1106)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Audio #8
ID : 4359 (0x1107)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (6%)

Text #1
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #2
ID : 4609 (0x1201)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #3
ID : 4610 (0x1202)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #4
ID : 4611 (0x1203)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #5
ID : 4612 (0x1204)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #6
ID : 4613 (0x1205)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #7
ID : 4614 (0x1206)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #8
ID : 4615 (0x1207)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #9
ID : 4616 (0x1208)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Text #10
ID : 4617 (0x1209)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

jdobbs
8th January 2011, 15:30
@jdobbs
I may have found a bug in BD-RB v037.01 beta. All goes smooth, but Rebuilding fails.
......[05:41:14]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [05:41:14] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Non standart fps value do not supported for PGS streams
[05:41:32] - Failed to REBUILD

Here my findings:
Source is 24.000 fps. Movie-only mode. Resize to 720p.
All .avs scripts including the MUX_00000.meta declare fps=24 correctly, with the exception of the last MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta which sets for video and subtitles fps=59.97 Hmmm... not many 24fps sources around, that was probably never actually tested. I'll look into it.

jdobbs
8th January 2011, 15:36
@colinhunt

Not sure what's going on... I'll have to create a couple of 2 channel LPCM sources and see if I can repreat it.

Can you post the contents of the file AUD_00026_4352.AVS?

colinhunt
8th January 2011, 16:03
Can you post the contents of the file AUD_00026_4352.AVS?
I meant to save the workfiles but forgot and started another encode, thus deleting previous files. Sorry. I'll re-run the encode in High Speed mode and will post the .AVS file.

colinhunt
8th January 2011, 17:14
Hmmm... not many 24fps sources around
Plenty of 24.00fps Blu-rays out here in Europe.

jdobbs
8th January 2011, 18:59
Plenty of 24.00fps Blu-rays out here in Europe. I don't think I've ever seen one in the U.S.

MILLZY
8th January 2011, 20:26
JD did you manage to have a think about my problem from the audio missing from one episode on the fringe disc. Tried it again last night and made sure the three english audio streams on 00021 were present and it backed up fine.

colinhunt
8th January 2011, 21:00
I don't think I've ever seen one in the U.S.
Yeah, I don't recall any BDs I've bought from Amazon.com having a framerate of 24.00fps exactly. There's nothing I know of that forces movies shot at 24fps to be encoded as 23.976fps. It's funny that even though Europe is generally PAL/25fps due to 50Hz electrical system, some publishers go for 24.00fps instead of 23.976 or, heaven forbid, 24-to-25fps conversion.

colinhunt
8th January 2011, 21:06
Can you post the contents of the file AUD_00026_4352.AVS?
Now this is very interesting. I started a re-encode of the Treasure of Sierra Madre to get the .AVS file I deleted earlier, but to save time, I chose the High-Speed Option. And guess what? The encode finished without an Audio Reencoding error. I typically run all my encodes at "Highest (Very Slow)". Here's the .AVS file regardless:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\xxxxxxx\Desktop\video_tools\BD_Rebuilder - Copy (2)\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectshowSource("00026.track_4352.wav").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

I'll set BD-RB to do another full backup of the disc during the night at "Highest (Very Slow)" encoding quality to see if I can replicate the audio problem or not.

IVaN_000
8th January 2011, 21:39
If anyone have posted this before, then my apologies.

My hardware setup is as follows. Due to the on/off switch on the monitor being broken I have told my win7 to put it asleep after a while. The computer is always awake.

The new bd-rb keeps my monitor awake during the complete process, then when it is done it nicely goes to sleep..

Is there a hidden option not to use the new sleep stopping function?

//LD

Let me suggest a workaround: turn your monitor off with nircmd.exe (Google it).

Ch3vr0n
8th January 2011, 22:23
Or try this little gadget http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/ This few kb large ap lowers the lumination of your monitor based on your gps location. If you don't know them wel it lets you find them them too. Very nice gadget. Now back on topic.

laserfan
8th January 2011, 22:30
I don't think I've ever seen one in the U.S.If you want a 24fps BD for fun (and testing) look for Tin Man (2 disc set) for cheap. You might even like it... :)

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 00:08
If you want a 24fps BD for fun (and testing) look for Tin Man (2 disc set) for cheap. You might even like it... :) I was going to just reencode an existing film to 24fps... but I'll see if I can find that one. It's the one with Zooey Deschanel, right?

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 00:48
I was going to just reencode an existing film to 24fps...
Or I could simply send you one in the mail.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 13:20
Now this is very interesting. I started a re-encode of the Treasure of Sierra Madre to get the .AVS file I deleted earlier, but to save time, I chose the High-Speed Option. And guess what? The encode finished without an Audio Reencoding error. I typically run all my encodes at "Highest (Very Slow)". Here's the .AVS file regardless:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\xxxxxxx\Desktop\video_tools\BD_Rebuilder - Copy (2)\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectshowSource("00026.track_4352.wav").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

I'll set BD-RB to do another full backup of the disc during the night at "Highest (Very Slow)" encoding quality to see if I can replicate the audio problem or not.

Ran the full backup of Treasure of Sierra Madre at Highest quality last night. This morning I was greeted by an error message about a failed audio reencoding. Same error message as earlier. AVS content is the same as above. This is quite baffling, to say the least.

Update: I did a full backup of Peeping Tom, using High-Speed Option. The process finished without an audio reencoding error.

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 15:53
Ran the full backup of Treasure of Sierra Madre at Highest quality last night. This morning I was greeted by an error message about a failed audio reencoding. Same error message as earlier. AVS content is the same as above. This is quite baffling, to say the least.

Update: I did a full backup of Peeping Tom, using High-Speed Option. The process finished without an audio reencoding error. Very confusing... there should be no relationship at all between the video encoding selection and the audio encoding???? They are handled in two completely different modules.

Can you look and see if 00026.track_4352.WAV exists on your system? Maybe it's possible that maybe the demux is failing?? At least in the demuxing the two (audio/video) are being processed together.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 16:02
Very confusing... there should be no relationship at all between the video encoding selection and the audio encoding???? They are handled in two completely different modules.
Heh, yeah, I guessed as much. This whole thing makes no sense at all.

Can you look and see if 00026.track_4352.WAV exists on your system?
Yes, it does. Here's what MediaInfo says of it:

General
Complete name : F:\BDRB_OUTPUT2\WORKFILES\00026.track_4352.wav
Format : Wave
File size : 22.8 MiB
Duration : 2mn 4s
Overall bit rate : 1 536 Kbps

Audio
ID : 0
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 00001000-0000-0100-8000-00AA00389B71
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (100%)

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 16:05
Heh, yeah, I guessed as much. This whole thing makes no sense at all.


Yes, it does. Here's what MediaInfo says of it:

General
Complete name : F:\BDRB_OUTPUT2\WORKFILES\00026.track_4352.wav
Format : Wave
File size : 22.8 MiB
Duration : 2mn 4s
Overall bit rate : 1 536 Kbps

Audio
ID : 0
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 00001000-0000-0100-8000-00AA00389B71
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 2mn 4s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 22.8 MiB (100%) Will the .WAV file playback if you open it with MPC? Is 2min 4sec the correct length?

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 16:08
Will the .WAV file playback if you open it with MPC? Is 2min 4sec the correct length?
Yes, it plays perfectly. It's an 30-second orchestral cue which loops a few times, like it's meant to play behind a looping menu animation. Length appears to be correct.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 16:22
Whoop, hey, hold your horses. I browsed the Workfiles directory and noticed that it contains AUD_00026_4352.AC3 as well. I played it in VLC and it plays fine all the way through. So, the audio reencoding of AUD_00026_4352.WAV is fine. So where does the error message come from?

There's no AC3 file for AUD_00026_4358.WAV in the directory, but there is an .AVS file:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\xxxxxxxxxx\Desktop\video_tools\BD_Rebuilder - Copy\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectshowSource("00026.track_4358.wav").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

MediaInfo report lists the same specs as for 00026.track_4352.WAV. Same length etc.

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 16:26
Whoop, hey, hold your horses. I browsed the Workfiles directory and noticed that it contains AUD_00026_4352.AC3 as well. I played it in VLC and it plays fine all the way through. So, the audio reencoding of AUD_00026_4352.WAV is fine. So where does the error message come from?

There's no AC3 file for AUD_00026_4358.WAV in the directory, but there is an .AVS file:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\xxxxxxxxxx\Desktop\video_tools\BD_Rebuilder - Copy\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=DirectshowSource("00026.track_4358.wav").Amplify(1.2)
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

MediaInfo report lists the same specs as for 00026.track_4352.WAV. Same length etc.Are there other audio tracks that are being reencoded for 00026? That routine loops through each.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 16:32
Are there other audio tracks that are being reencoded for 00026? That routine loops through each.
Yes, one more: 00026.track_4359.wav. Each of the three wavs has a corresponding .avs file. Here's the content of AUD_00026.meta:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_LPCM, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
A_LPCM, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", track=4358, lang=eng
A_LPCM, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", track=4359, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4615,lang=xxx
(xxx = redacted, not something created by BD-RB ;) )

To recap, Workfiles dir contains all three wavs, all three avs files but only one .ac3 file. Wavs are identical in size, length and other specs, i.e. the exact same content thrice.

I took another look at VID_00026. It has a total of 8 audio tracks, all LPCM, but only three of them match the language selection, i.e. which audio languages to keep.

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 16:36
Yes, one more: 00026.track_4359.wav. Each of the three wavs has a corresponding .avs file. Here's the content of AUD_00026.meta:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_LPCM, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", track=4352, lang=eng
A_LPCM, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", track=4358, lang=eng
A_LPCM, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts", track=4359, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "W:\VIDEO\HD\(BD35) TREASURE_OF_THE_SIERRA_MADRE\BDMV\STREAM\00026.m2ts",fps=23.976, track=4615,lang=xxx
(xxx = redacted, not something created by BD-RB ;) )

To recap, Workfiles dir contains all three wavs, all three avs files but only one .ac3 file. Wavs are identical in size, length and other specs, i.e. the exact same content thrice. Interesting. That means the audio encode is failing on the second audio track.

I guess I'll have to look around and see if I can find that BD. Not much chance I'll get it locally, though. I'll have to either do some driving or order it online.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 16:42
Interesting. That means the audio encode is failing on the second audio track.
And when the backup is running at "Highest (Very Slow)", not when running at "High-Speed Option". Which is very odd. It could be coincidental, I guess.

I guess I'll have to look around and see if I can find that BD.
Keep in mind that Peeping Tom is exhibiting similar issues. Oh, hang on, it's probably an EU disc.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 17:31
And when the backup is running at "Highest (Very Slow)", not when running at "High-Speed Option". Which is very odd. It could be coincidental, I guess.
OK, looks like it was coincidental. I'm re-running a full backup of Peeping Tom at Highest quality, and previously the audio reencoding error popped up at VID_00003. This time the process passed that point without errors. Mind you, that previous audio reencoding error occurred on BD-RB 0.36.09.

laserfan
9th January 2011, 18:53
If you want a 24fps BD for fun (and testing) look for Tin Man (2 disc set) for cheap. You might even like it... :)

I was going to just reencode an existing film to 24fps... but I'll see if I can find that one. It's the one with Zooey Deschanel, right?
Indeed, though the Wicked Witch (Kathleen Robertson) gets the better costumes! ;)

NLight95
9th January 2011, 19:22
@jdobbs

1. You mentioned in the first page of this thread that BD-RB should not be installed under C:\Program Files.

[Currently I have it as C:\Other\BD_Rebuilder]

Would it be ok in C:\Programs Files(x86) ?

2. Is it safe to install Shark007's x64_components codec pack? Or is there an alternative 64-bit codec pack that is better (and won't conflict)?

Supposedly Shark007 has a solution for BD_Rebuilder and his Win7codecs pack. These are his instructions. I' want to confirm this with you first--is this safe?

http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-Codec-Pack-and-BD-Rebuilder

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 19:35
And when the backup is running at "Highest (Very Slow)", not when running at "High-Speed Option". Which is very odd. It could be coincidental, I guess.


Keep in mind that Peeping Tom is exhibiting similar issues. Oh, hang on, it's probably an EU disc. Random, eh? I hate to say it, but that sure sounds like it may be something on your end. Try running it without your antivirus on... sometimes AV software will delay disc I/O and it is just enough for programs to run into issues, especially when working with large files.

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 19:37
@jdobbs

1. You mentioned in the first page of this thread that BD-RB should not be installed under C:\Program Files.

[Currently I have it as C:\Other\BD_Rebuilder]

Would it be ok in C:\Programs Files(x86) ?

2. Is it safe to install Shark007's x64_components codec pack? Or is there an alternative 64-bit codec pack that is better (and won't conflict)?

Supposedly Shark007 has a solution for BD_Rebuilder and his Win7codecs pack. These are his instructions. I' want to confirm this with you first--is this safe?

http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-Codec-Pack-and-BD-Rebuilder

I wouldn't install any codec packs, but I'm not that familar with Shark007's specifically. I would recommend you install FFDSHOW for codecs. It has every codec a person could ever need.

I think BD-RB should run fine in the "Program Files (x86)" folder with Win7 or and XP, but you'll probably run into problems with Vista.

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 19:40
Random, eh? I hate to say it, but that sure sounds like it may be something on your end. Try running it without your antivirus on... sometimes AV software will delay disc I/O and it is just enough for programs to run into issues, especially when working with large files.
No AV of any kind installed in the encoding rig (playing with fire, I know). It was purpose-built for use with BD-RB, dual Xeons etc. and the only thing I've installed on it in addition to BD-RB and its tools is Daemon Tools. Oh, and Java.

I see what you mean by random errors pointing towards my rig, but I've run close to 500 backups on that rig and the only major thing that's changed is the version of BD-RB. I'm sure I've installed something from Microsoft update at one point or another, but the last time I did that was ages ago. The rig's not even overclocked. I appreciate the fact that this bug, if it even is one, is by its very nature almost impossible to track down. Don't worry about it.

Mind you, it's been several months since the last time the encoding rig was rebooted. Maybe I should try that before re-running Treasure of Sierra Madre.

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 19:43
No AV of any kind installed in the encoding rig (playing with fire, I know). I see what you mean by random errors pointing towards my rig, but I've run close to 500 backups on that rig and the only major thing that's changed is the version of BD-RB. I'm sure I've installed something from Microsoft update at one point or another, but the last time I did that was ages ago. The rig's not even overclocked. I appreciate the fact that this bug, if it even is one, is by its very nature almost impossible to track down. Don't worry about it. Are both of the two instances you've seen on discs with LPCM tracks? There has to be a link there... if it's a bug in BD-RB, I want to fix it.

omegaman7
9th January 2011, 19:44
Hardly risky not running Antivirus. I haven't ran one in over a year. I don't visit sites I'm unfamiliar with, and I don't download stupid $h!t. I know others that haven't ran one in years. Perhaps it's risky, but I'm reasonably confident I won't get infected, and If I do, I'll recognize the warning signs before my rig gets too buggered :p

colinhunt
9th January 2011, 20:06
Are both of the two instances you've seen on discs with LPCM tracks?
Absolutely.

1) Peeping Tom VID_00003 has two 24bit mono LPCM tracks, both in English.
2) Treasure of Sierra Madre VID_00026 has eight 16bit stereo LPCM tracks; tracks #1, #7 and #8 are in English.

In both cases the audio in question is quite short in length (61 secs for Peeping Tom, 124 secs for ToSM). Also in both cases all processed audio tracks are identical in content.

jdobbs
9th January 2011, 20:12
Hardly risky not running Antivirus. I haven't ran one in over a year. I don't visit sites I'm unfamiliar with, and I don't download stupid $h!t. I know others that haven't ran one in years. Perhaps it's risky, but I'm reasonably confident I won't get infected, and If I do, I'll recognize the warning signs before my rig gets too buggered :p I don't run one on my video machine either, but I have one on my "browsing and working" computer. I also turn off disc indexing, as that speeds thing up.

scotthulbs
10th January 2011, 02:40
Are there any tips or tricks to get faster encoding performance.

omegaman7
10th January 2011, 02:59
This really isn't the thread for this, but using 2 drives for the processing will help. And of course, the faster the CPU the better. Background processing will slow the encoding down. So having a dedicated machine for encoding is a big +

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 05:14
I am not sure if this is a bug, but on a recent full movie backup of Case 39, there are 18 deleted scenes that are 480i, 29.97, mpeg2 per BD-RB's stream window. Also, they are all listed like this example:
( VID_00016* MPEG-2, 480i, 29.97fps*, 33.00MB )
In setup I select IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown and Use DECOMB filter on interlaced sources.
BD-RB creates this AVS:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
DirectshowSource("G:\BD RIPS\CASE_39_AC\BDMV\STREAM\00016.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=1494, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03701B\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

After BD-RB completes successfully, the audio is out of sync for these scenes.
The newly created BD-RB m2ts is reported as: 480P/29.970fps/16:9/High Profile 4.1.
When I check VID_00016.AVS.264 in the Workfiles folder that was created with BD-RB with DGAVCIndex, it reports the frame rate as 37.462537 fps. :confused:
Also, the original total time of these 18 deleted scenes is reported to be 00:30:06. BD-RB's completed backup reports 00:37:37.
Perhaps there is an issue selecting IVTC sources with 3:2 pull down for this type of source? :confused:

jdobbs
10th January 2011, 05:25
I am not sure if this is a bug, but on a recent full movie backup of Case 39, there are 18 deleted scenes that are 480i, 29.97, mpeg2 per BD-RB's stream window. Also, they are all listed like this example:
( VID_00016* MPEG-2, 480i, 29.97fps*, 33.00MB )
In setup I select IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown and Use DECOMB filter on interlaced sources.
BD-RB creates this AVS:


After BD-RB completes successfully, the audio is out of sync for these scenes.
The newly created BD-RB m2ts is reported as: 480P/29.970fps/16:9/High Profile 4.1.
When I check VID_00016.AVS.264 in the Workfiles folder that was created with BD-RB with DGAVCIndex, it reports the frame rate as 37.462537 fps. :confused:
Also, the original total time of these 18 deleted scenes is reported to be 00:30:06. BD-RB's completed backup reports 00:37:37.
Perhaps there is an issue selecting IVTC sources with 3:2 pull down for this type of source? :confused: The "*" is put there after a short scan at the beginning of the file while gathering disc information. Later (just before encoding) BD-RB does a complete scan of the extracted video on MPEG-2 sources. It does this because sometimes apparent pulldown sources are actually a hybrid (part true-interlaced and part pulldown). In those sources it is necessary to encode at 29.97 or you will get garbage for output.

But... even if they are encoded as pulldown sources, the output will always show at 29.97fps because that is the playback rate with pulldown.

Not sure how they could be reported as 480p, as that is only legal for secondary streams -- and BD-RB actually looks for and disallows passing a 480p stream through. It is possible, I guess, that a reporting program could see the underlying progressive nature of a pulldown stream and report it like that...

I've experienced a couple of odd quirks in DirectShow playback of hybrid sources, so I'll take a look at it. Can you tell me what disc this is?

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 05:30
The "*" is put there after a short scan at the beginning of the file while gathering disc information. Later (just before encoding) BD-RB does a complete scan of the extracted video on MPEG-2 sources. It does this because sometimes apparent pulldown sources are actually a hybrid (part true-interlaced and part pulldown). In those sources it is necessary to encode at 29.97 or you will get garbage for output.

But... even if they are encoded as pulldown sources, the output will always show at 29.97fps because that is the playback rate with pulldown.

Why would the reported time of the clips change so dramatically, from 30:06 to 37:37, if the frame rate did not change?
This must be why the audio is out of sync!

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 05:32
I've experienced a couple of odd quirks in DirectShow playback of hybrid sources, so I'll take a look at it. Can you tell me what disc this is?

Case 39.

jdobbs
10th January 2011, 05:32
Why would the reported time of the clips change so dramatically, from 30:06 to 37:37, if the frame rate did not change?
This must be why the audio is out of sync! I don't know. That is really weird for sure.

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 05:36
I don't know. That is really weird for sure.

I will run it again, but this time unselect IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown, just to see if it makes a difference.

jdobbs
10th January 2011, 05:38
I will run it again, but this time unselect IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown, just to see if it makes a difference.Thanks. Please let me know what you find. I've had some odd things happen with MPEG-2 sources on a couple of occasions -- but it was always from a DVD source that had been converted, not a commercially authored blu-ray.

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 05:43
Thanks. Please let me know what you find. I've had some odd things happen with MPEG-2 sources on a couple of occasions -- but it was always from a DVD source that had been converted, not a commercially authored blu-ray.

I will report back tomorrow, running it now. :)
Your staying up pretty late there jdobbs.. :p

jdobbs
10th January 2011, 06:01
I will report back tomorrow, running it now. :)
Your staying up pretty late there jdobbs.. :p Good point. I guess I should be heading off to bed... the eyelids are getting a little heavy. I just can't seem to burn the midnight oil like I once did... age, it's a wonderful thing. ;)

omegaman7
10th January 2011, 08:06
Just ran "Dinner For Schmucks" today. I've been toying with the custom output size(in this case 23510Mb). So far, only two movies have missed their mark. Knight and day 23450mb, and Dinner for Schmucks 23510Mb. Both were off by 1gb or more ~21.8Gb. Better under than over for sure, but 1+ gigabytes is fairly extreme. Not sure what would cause this. I'm not really complaining here, the video quality was stunning as always. But it sure looks like a bug to me. ;)

I am aware pushing the data to the outer edge is risky. I like to live dangerously :p Nah, seriously though, I'm trying to find a happy medium. Which so far is probably 23450. But I haven't seen a successful output at 23510 or more.

Please disregard the name of the inf. I added a 1 so I know it was the first run. I do that now :D

[10:54:41] BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Source: DINNER_FOR_SCHMUCKS
- Input BD size: 39.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:50:01.073]
- Target BD size: 22.96 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:54:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:54:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [10:54:43] Reencoding: VID_00026 (1 of 12)
- [10:54:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 402 frames
- [10:54:43] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:54:51] Video Encode complete
- [10:54:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:54:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:54:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [10:54:55] Reencoding: VID_00025 (2 of 12)
- [10:54:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 716 frames
- [10:54:55] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:55:08] Video Encode complete
- [10:55:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:55:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:55:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00041]
- [10:55:12] Reencoding: VID_00041 (3 of 12)
- [10:55:12] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,380 frames
- [10:55:12] Reencoding: VID_00041, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:55:36] Video Encode complete
- [10:55:36] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:55:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:55:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [10:55:43] Reencoding: VID_00028 (4 of 12)
- [10:55:43] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,302 frames
- [10:55:43] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:56:21] Video Encode complete
- [10:56:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:56:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:56:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [10:56:31] Reencoding: VID_00027 (5 of 12)
- [10:56:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,087 frames
- [10:56:31] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:57:39] Video Encode complete
- [10:57:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:57:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:57:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [10:57:51] Reencoding: VID_00040 (6 of 12)
- [10:57:51] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,372 frames
- [10:57:51] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:59:06] Video Encode complete
- [10:59:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:59:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:59:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [10:59:20] Reencoding: VID_00022 (7 of 12)
- [10:59:20] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5,403 frames
- [10:59:20] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:00:56] Video Encode complete
- [11:00:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:00:56] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:00:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [11:01:08] Reencoding: VID_00024 (8 of 12)
- [11:01:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,919 frames
- [11:01:08] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:02:52] Video Encode complete
- [11:02:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:02:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:02:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [11:03:17] Reencoding: VID_00023 (9 of 12)
- [11:03:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 11,904 frames
- [11:03:17] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:06:37] Video Encode complete
- [11:06:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:06:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:06:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [11:07:14] Reencoding: VID_00014 (10 of 12)
- [11:07:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 16,694 frames
- [11:07:14] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:12:29] Video Encode complete
- [11:12:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:12:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:12:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [11:13:23] Reencoding: VID_00013 (11 of 12)
- [11:13:23] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 21,711 frames
- [11:13:23] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1
- [11:20:04] Video Encode complete
- [11:20:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [11:20:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [11:20:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [11:29:15] Reencoding: VID_00010 (12 of 12)
- [11:29:15] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 164,072 frames
- Bitrate: 18,808 Kbs
- [11:29:15] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:56:48] Video Encode complete
- [16:56:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [16:56:48] Multiplexing M2TS
[17:10:13]PHASE ONE complete
[17:10:13]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:10:13] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:10:25] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:10:25]JOB: DINNER_FOR_SCHMUCKS finished.

jfcarbel
10th January 2011, 10:01
Is there a way in BD Rebuilder to cut end credits from main movie in both movie only and full backup?

I tried using MultiAVCHD on Cloverfield to cut 666 seconds from end of main movie, but it continues to fail, so was hoping their was a hidden config option in BD Rebuilder for this.

colinhunt
10th January 2011, 10:16
Absolutely.

1) Peeping Tom VID_00003 has two 24bit mono LPCM tracks, both in English.
2) Treasure of Sierra Madre VID_00026 has eight 16bit stereo LPCM tracks; tracks #1, #7 and #8 are in English.

In both cases the audio in question is quite short in length (61 secs for Peeping Tom, 124 secs for ToSM). Also in both cases all processed audio tracks are identical in content.
I rebooted the encoding rig and ran a full backup of Treasure of Sierra Madre. Like before, the process was stopped by an Audio reencoding error at VID_00026.

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 15:02
Thanks. Please let me know what you find. I've had some odd things happen with MPEG-2 sources on a couple of occasions -- but it was always from a DVD source that had been converted, not a commercially authored blu-ray.

The audio is back in sync, and the time matches as well. The clips are now reported as 480i/29.970fps/16:9/High Profile 4.1.
So it appears selecting IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown was the culprit on this one.

jdobbs
10th January 2011, 17:55
The audio is back in sync, and the time matches as well. The clips are now reported as 480i/29.970fps/16:9/High Profile 4.1.
So it appears selecting IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown was the culprit on this one. Can you post the AVS for this one? I want to see the difference. Another thing... are you using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0"?

Capsbackup
10th January 2011, 18:35
Can you post the AVS for this one? I want to see the difference. Another thing... are you using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0"?

AVS is exactly the same as previous run with IVTC selected:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
DirectshowSource("G:\BD RIPS\CASE_39_AC\BDMV\STREAM\00016.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=1494, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03701B\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

I am not using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0". I have not added anything to below options.

Seems like x264/pulldown setting might be the cause? :confused:

omegaman7
10th January 2011, 18:58
I'm curious what your output sizes were on those 2 movies Jdobbs. Or if you experience undersizing at all in general ;)
E.g. Knight and day, and Dinner For Schmucks

sreemv
10th January 2011, 23:09
Sorry to barge in - couple of quick questions/requests on some feature enhancements:

1] Is it possible to do Full backup with a few selected things removed?
2] Can we add/replace an audio/sub track in any mode?

setarip_old
11th January 2011, 00:21
@sreemv

Hi!

The tile of this thread is quite clear - It is for reporting bugs ONLY...

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 00:22
AVS is exactly the same as previous run with IVTC selected:


I am not using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0". I have not added anything to below options.

Seems like x264/pulldown setting might be the cause? :confused: I think you're right. It seems as if the 3:2 pulldown is being added even though no IVTC was being performed... that would explain the weird framerates. Hmmm... I'll take a look at that.

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 00:24
I'm curious what your output sizes were on those 2 movies Jdobbs. Or if you experience undersizing at all in general ;)
E.g. Knight and day, and Dinner For Schmucks I normally only experience the slight undersizing I purposely put in. Not sure specifically about those two.

I'm running "Schmucks" now at High Quality and custom size set to 23450. I'll see how it comes out in a few hours.

omegaman7
11th January 2011, 00:29
I generally only go full backup. I've been purposely trying to increase the output size a few megabytes at a time. I don't believe that is why my last significant undersize occurred though. Because Knight and Day was 1gb undersize, and it was with the default custom size of 23450(which I'll probably just stick with)....

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 00:31
I generally only go full backup. I've been purposely trying to increase the output size a few megabytes at a time. I don't believe that is why my last significant undersize occurred though. Because Knight and Day was 1gb undersize, and it was with the default custom size of 23450(which I'll probably just stick with).... The default BD-25 size is 23500 (22.94GB, it increased several versions ago), so going 23450 isn't actually "increasing". Normally with the default I get about 22.5GB -- which I believe is pretty close without risk. Since muxing overhead on an M2TS can be unpredictable, you have to leave a little cushion. A BD-25 maxes out at about 23.3GB.

omegaman7
11th January 2011, 00:40
I haven't ran any jobs on my primary, and the program is set for 23450(Custom). I generally average 22.8-22.9Gb set at 23450.
Ok, I'm trying to understand now. By default BD-25 ouput is 23040. But if one goes to "custom target size" output, initially the program is set for 23450, Right???

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 00:43
I haven't ran any jobs on my primary, and the program is set for 23450(Custom). I generally average 22.8-22.9Gb set at 23450.
Ok, I'm trying to understand now. By default BD-25 ouput is 23040. But if one goes to "custom target size" output, initially the program is set for 23450, Right??? The default for "Target Size BD-25" from the menu is 23500. The custom can be anything, but if it isn't set it uses, 23450, yes. I should probably change that to match the BD-25 default.

I'm not sure where you get the 23040... unless I used that a long time ago. I'm trying to adjust upward a little at a time until I hit the "sweet spot".

omegaman7
11th January 2011, 00:54
Your previous post suggested 23040 was the default output size for BD-25 :p Unless I read it wrong, in which I Humbly apologize.

I think I'll probably just stick with the Default. and hope for 22.5Gb like you average. I've now seen 2 movies though that completed at 21.7 and 21.8Gb. I suppose 2 movies out of 20 - 30 movies isn't a bad frequency ;)

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 01:12
Your previous post suggested 23040 was the default output size for BD-25 :p Unless I read it wrong, in which I Humbly apologize.

I think I'll probably just stick with the Default. and hope for 22.5Gb like you average. I've now seen 2 movies though that completed at 21.7 and 21.8Gb. I suppose 2 movies out of 20 - 30 movies isn't a bad frequency ;) That's a pretty large drift off the norm. I'll see how "Schmucks" ends up with the custom size of 23450. It should come in only slightly smaller than 22.5GB.

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 01:17
AVS is exactly the same as previous run with IVTC selected:


I am not using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0". I have not added anything to below options.

Seems like x264/pulldown setting might be the cause? :confused: Do you still have the log from the problem encode? Can you look and see if BD-RB identified them as "hybrid"?

[Edit] Never mind. I think I found it, there was a section of code (not hit often) where the hybrid flag was set, but the ivtc flag wasn't being reset (as it should with hybrid).

Good catch.

JJB
11th January 2011, 02:33
@sreemv

Hi!

The tile of this thread is quite clear - It is for reporting bugs ONLY...

Thank You Sir, seems to sometimes lose It's flavor.:cool:

Capsbackup
11th January 2011, 03:40
Do you still have the log from the problem encode? Can you look and see if BD-RB identified them as "hybrid"?

[Edit] Never mind. I think I found it, there was a section of code (not hit often) where the hybrid flag was set, but the ivtc flag wasn't being reset (as it should with hybrid).

Good catch.

Glad to be of help! :)
A partial of two of the clips from the log, but all 18 clips are the same:
- [17:14:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [17:14:47] Reencoding: VID_00016 (8 of 29)
- [17:14:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,494 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 868 Kbs
- [17:14:47] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:14:57] Video Encode complete
- [17:14:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:14:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [17:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00017 (9 of 29)
- [17:15:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,684 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 846 Kbs
- [17:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:15:10] Video Encode complete
- [17:15:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:15:11] Multiplexing M2TS

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 15:06
Glad to be of help! :)
A partial of two of the clips from the log, but all 18 clips are the same: If I made a test version for you, do you think you could run it to see if this was the problem?

Capsbackup
11th January 2011, 15:46
If I made a test version for you, do you think you could run it to see if this was the problem?

I would be happy to. Just let me know. :)

jdobbs
11th January 2011, 17:23
Your previous post suggested 23040 was the default output size for BD-25 :p Unless I read it wrong, in which I Humbly apologize.

I think I'll probably just stick with the Default. and hope for 22.5Gb like you average. I've now seen 2 movies though that completed at 21.7 and 21.8Gb. I suppose 2 movies out of 20 - 30 movies isn't a bad frequency ;) I did "Dinner for Schmucks" with the custom setting of 23450, and what appears to be the same settings as you, and it came out at 22.4GB. That's right in line with what it should be.

omegaman7
11th January 2011, 18:45
I did "Dinner for Schmucks" with the custom setting of 23450, and what appears to be the same settings as you, and it came out at 22.4GB. That's right in line with what it should be.

And the calculations should have been identical for bd rebuilder then. That boggles my mind LOL! aw well. I personally watched the backup. Funny movie ;)

sreemv
11th January 2011, 20:59
@sreemv

Hi!

The tile of this thread is quite clear - It is for reporting bugs ONLY...

Apologies - didnt realize there are multiple threads for this tool - usually most other tools appear to have singlle thread.

Voyeurism
12th January 2011, 00:38
Hi,

I have been using the various BD Rebuilder beta's to back up my collection to DVD5, to date without any problems that I've noticed. However, when I try to rebuild the movie "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" I get an audio sync problem.

The first time this happened I was using the previous (0.36.something) beta, but I have now tried the disk again with the latest (0.37.01) beta and the same problem occurs.

I am using the "Movie Only" backup, and keeping the 3 English language audio tracks.

Any suggestions would be welcomed.

jdobbs
12th January 2011, 00:48
Hi,

I have been using the various BD Rebuilder beta's to back up my collection to DVD5, to date without any problems that I've noticed. However, when I try to rebuild the movie "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" I get an audio sync problem.

The first time this happened I was using the previous (0.36.something) beta, but I have now tried the disk again with the latest (0.37.01) beta and the same problem occurs.

I am using the "Movie Only" backup, and keeping the 3 English language audio tracks.

Any suggestions would be welcomed. Are all three language off? How much off (seconds or milliseconds)?

Voyeurism
12th January 2011, 08:11
Are all three language off? How much off (seconds or milliseconds)?

The second audio track (English descriptions for the hard of hearing) seems to be very slightly off, although not enough to be really noticeable - it's possible that it's fine, and I'm just getting paranoid. The third audio track (director's commentary) seems to be absolutely fine.

The main audio track is noticeably off - maybe 1-2 seconds. From looking at the stream information in VLC this is a TrueHD track on the original disk, but has been reencoded to AC3 on the BD5. The other two were AC3 on the disk and on the BD5 I don't know how to check whether they have been touched by BD Rebuilder or not.

Also, strangely, the frame rate for the video stream is shown in VLC as 23.976023 for the stream on the disk, and 47.952047 for the BD5 - although that can't possibly be correct, as it's definitely not running at double speed.

jdobbs
12th January 2011, 15:30
The second audio track (English descriptions for the hard of hearing) seems to be very slightly off, although not enough to be really noticeable - it's possible that it's fine, and I'm just getting paranoid. The third audio track (director's commentary) seems to be absolutely fine.

The main audio track is noticeably off - maybe 1-2 seconds. From looking at the stream information in VLC this is a TrueHD track on the original disk, but has been reencoded to AC3 on the BD5. The other two were AC3 on the disk and on the BD5 I don't know how to check whether they have been touched by BD Rebuilder or not.

Also, strangely, the frame rate for the video stream is shown in VLC as 23.976023 for the stream on the disk, and 47.952047 for the BD5 - although that can't possibly be correct, as it's definitely not running at double speed.Sounds like it may be the same issue Capsbackup reported. I'd appreciate it if both of you would try replacing the BD Rebuilder executable with the one in this zip (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBTEST.zip) and see if it fixes it. Unfortunately you'll have to run the job again.

Thanks.

Capsbackup
12th January 2011, 16:44
Sounds like it may be the same issue Capsbackup reported. I'd appreciate it if both of you would try replacing the BD Rebuilder executable with the one in this zip (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBTEST.zip) and see if it fixes it. Unfortunately you'll have to run the job again.

Thanks.

I will run a test now. Will use same settings as before, IVTC Sources with 3:2 Pulldown and Use DECOMB filter on interlaced sources selected.
Will report back later this afternoon. ;)

jdobbs
12th January 2011, 17:16
I will run a test now. Will use same settings as before, IVTC Sources with 3:2 Pulldown and Use DECOMB filter on interlaced sources selected.
Will report back later this afternoon. ;) Thanks. I think this is it -- but can't be sure until its tested.

TheBreen
12th January 2011, 22:32
I'm not sure if this is a problem at all but it relates to the undersizing discussion. I backed up The Shining with a source size of 30.08GB, using BD-25 as my target output, and the result was 16.8GB. I thought this a bit strange since I chose Full Backup and I thought only non-english audio would have been stripped, and I didn't think non-english audio would have amounted to half of the source size.

So I re-tried the backup with same settings except Custom Target Size of 45000 and the result was 21.5GB. Should 21.5GB have been an acceptable output size with the BD-25 option as well, meaning video was compressed unnecessarily?

jdobbs
12th January 2011, 22:46
I'm not sure if this is a problem at all but it relates to the undersizing discussion. I backed up The Shining with a source size of 30.08GB, using BD-25 as my target output, and the result was 16.8GB. I thought this a bit strange since I chose Full Backup and I thought only non-english audio would have been stripped, and I didn't think non-english audio would have amounted to half of the source size.

So I re-tried the backup with same settings except Custom Target Size of 45000 and the result was 21.5GB. Should 21.5GB have been an acceptable output size with the BD-25 option as well, meaning video was compressed unnecessarily?

Make sure you are using the apps and versions that are linked in the first post of this thread. Sometimes using other versions or other CODECs can result in undersizing -- that's not a good thing. In some cases other CODECs can actually change the resolution or clarity, and as a result what appears to be a high Q at a lower bitrate is actually a blurred image.

Capsbackup
13th January 2011, 00:57
Thanks. I think this is it -- but can't be sure until its tested.

:( The test BD-RB file did not correct the audio out of sync problem on the movie Case 39. :devil:

[Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100
KEEP_MBTREE=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=4500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8400
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
VERSION=0.37.0.2
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BD RIPS\CASE_39_AC\
WORKING_PATH=G:\CASE_39 BDRB TEST\

-----------------------
[07:54:07] BD Rebuilder v0.37.02 (beta)
- Source: CASE_39_AC
- Input BD size: 35.49 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:44:02.565]
- Target BD size: 8.20 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Quality: Better (Faster), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:54:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:54:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [07:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 29)
- [07:54:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 5,375 Kbs
- [07:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:54:25] Video Encode complete
- [07:54:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:54:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:54:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [07:54:31] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 29)
- [07:54:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,080 frames
- Bitrate: 4,040 Kbs
- [07:54:31] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:55:05] Video Encode complete
- [07:55:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:55:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:55:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:55:09] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 29)
- [07:55:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 5,375 Kbs
- [07:55:09] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:55:24] Video Encode complete
- [07:55:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:55:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:55:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [07:55:29] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 29)
- [07:55:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 5,375 Kbs
- [07:55:29] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:55:43] Video Encode complete
- [07:55:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:55:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:55:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [07:55:49] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 29)
- [07:55:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 959 frames
- Bitrate: 4,040 Kbs
- [07:55:49] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:56:13] Video Encode complete
- [07:56:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:56:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:56:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [07:56:24] Reencoding: VID_00006 (6 of 29)
- [07:56:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,983 frames
- Bitrate: 902 Kbs
- [07:56:24] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:57:20] Video Encode complete
- [07:57:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:57:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:57:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [08:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00015 (7 of 29)
- [08:17:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 157,417 frames
- Bitrate: 8,455 Kbs
- [08:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:18:51] Video Encode complete
- [10:18:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:22:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [10:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00016 (8 of 29)
- [10:26:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,494 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 889 Kbs
- [10:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:18] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [10:26:21] Reencoding: VID_00017 (9 of 29)
- [10:26:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,684 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 867 Kbs
- [10:26:21] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:30] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [10:26:33] Reencoding: VID_00018 (10 of 29)
- [10:26:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,844 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 860 Kbs
- [10:26:33] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:42] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [10:26:45] Reencoding: VID_00019 (11 of 29)
- [10:26:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 958 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 904 Kbs
- [10:26:45] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:50] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [10:26:53] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 29)
- [10:26:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,844 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 892 Kbs
- [10:26:53] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:27:03] Video Encode complete
- [10:27:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:27:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:27:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [10:27:10] Reencoding: VID_00021 (13 of 29)
- [10:27:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,309 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 860 Kbs
- [10:27:10] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:27:35] Video Encode complete
- [10:27:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:27:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:27:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [10:27:39] Reencoding: VID_00022 (14 of 29)
- [10:27:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,500 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 894 Kbs
- [10:27:39] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:27:46] Video Encode complete
- [10:27:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:27:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:27:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [10:27:50] Reencoding: VID_00023 (15 of 29)
- [10:27:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,047 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 910 Kbs
- [10:27:50] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:28:00] Video Encode complete
- [10:28:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:28:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:28:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [10:28:06] Reencoding: VID_00024 (16 of 29)
- [10:28:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,585 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 892 Kbs
- [10:28:06] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:28:24] Video Encode complete
- [10:28:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:28:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:28:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [10:28:30] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 29)
- [10:28:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,195 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 856 Kbs
- [10:28:30] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:28:51] Video Encode complete
- [10:28:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:28:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:28:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [10:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00026 (18 of 29)
- [10:28:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,955 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 896 Kbs
- [10:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:29:06] Video Encode complete
- [10:29:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:29:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:29:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [10:29:13] Reencoding: VID_00027 (19 of 29)
- [10:29:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,239 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 906 Kbs
- [10:29:13] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:29:38] Video Encode complete
- [10:29:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:29:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:29:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [10:29:44] Reencoding: VID_00028 (20 of 29)
- [10:29:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,856 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 942 Kbs
- [10:29:44] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:29:58] Video Encode complete
- [10:29:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:29:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:29:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [10:30:02] Reencoding: VID_00029 (21 of 29)
- [10:30:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,267 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 875 Kbs
- [10:30:02] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:13] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:30:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:30:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [10:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00030 (22 of 29)
- [10:30:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,591 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 947 Kbs
- [10:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:30] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:30:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:30:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [10:30:38] Reencoding: VID_00031 (23 of 29)
- [10:30:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,136 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 904 Kbs
- [10:30:39] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:31:09] Video Encode complete
- [10:31:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:31:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:31:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [10:31:13] Reencoding: VID_00032 (24 of 29)
- [10:31:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,426 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 921 Kbs
- [10:31:13] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:31:21] Video Encode complete
- [10:31:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:31:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:31:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00033]
- [10:31:30] Reencoding: VID_00033 (25 of 29)
- [10:31:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,214 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 920 Kbs
- [10:31:30] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:32:05] Video Encode complete
- [10:32:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:32:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:32:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [10:32:24] Reencoding: VID_00034 (26 of 29)
- [10:32:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 14,600 frames
- Bitrate: 874 Kbs
- [10:32:25] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:34:01] Video Encode complete
- [10:34:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:34:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:34:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [10:34:13] Reencoding: VID_00035 (27 of 29)
- [10:34:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,929 frames
- Bitrate: 857 Kbs
- [10:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:35:07] Video Encode complete
- [10:35:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:35:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:35:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [10:35:16] Reencoding: VID_00036 (28 of 29)
- [10:35:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,456 frames
- Bitrate: 855 Kbs
- [10:35:16] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:35:52] Video Encode complete
- [10:35:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:35:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:35:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01001]
- [10:35:59] Reencoding: VID_01001 (29 of 29)
- [10:35:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,080 frames
- Bitrate: 4,040 Kbs
- [10:35:59] Reencoding: VID_01001, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:36:33] Video Encode complete
- [10:36:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:36:33] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:36:35]PHASE ONE complete
[10:36:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:36:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:36:40] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

The audio is ahead of the video. The original 00270mpls for these 18 scenes, VID_00016 to VID_00033, reports a total time of 00:30:06, and the BD-RB backup reports 00:37:37, the same as before.
I am not sure if this helps, but if I run DGAVCIndex on the BD-RB backup 00016.m2ts file, it reports 29.970fps.
If I run DGAVCIndex on the VID_00016.AVS.264, it reports 37.462537fps. :confused:
Let me know what else I can provide that may be of help.

TheBreen
13th January 2011, 01:51
Make sure you are using the apps and versions that are linked in the first post of this thread. Sometimes using other versions or other CODECs can result in undersizing -- that's not a good thing. In some cases other CODECs can actually change the resolution or clarity, and as a result what appears to be a high Q at a lower bitrate is actually a blurred image.

Hi and thanks. I did install those linked apps when I installed BDRB and I don't believe anything has changed since. Inspect.exe seems to show no problem:

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.37.0.1, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

I re-tried the backup with target BD25 and again got 16.8GB with compressed video, even though as I mentioned above the custom target output produced 21.5 with no video compression. Below is the log for the undersized BD25:

-----------------------
[17:19:54] BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Source: SHINING
- Input BD size: 30.08 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:12:24.662]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:19:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:19:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [17:19:58] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 8)
- [17:19:58] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,778 frames
- [17:19:58] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:20:18] Video Encode complete
- [17:20:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:20:19] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:20:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [17:20:26] Reencoding: VID_00036 (2 of 8)
- [17:20:26] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 7,920 frames
- [17:20:26] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:23:09] Video Encode complete
- [17:23:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:23:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:23:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [17:23:34] Reencoding: VID_00005 (3 of 8)
- [17:23:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 13,530 frames
- [17:23:34] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:24:45] Video Encode complete
- [17:24:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:24:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:24:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [17:25:40] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 8)
- [17:25:40] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 31,080 frames
- [17:25:40] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:28:06] Video Encode complete
- [17:28:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:28:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:28:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- [17:29:34] Reencoding: VID_00040 (5 of 8)
- [17:29:34] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 54,615 frames
- [17:29:34] Reencoding: VID_00040, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:34:08] Video Encode complete
- [17:34:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:34:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:34:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
- [17:35:59] Reencoding: VID_00039 (6 of 8)
- [17:35:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 62,914 frames
- [17:35:59] Reencoding: VID_00039, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:41:05] Video Encode complete
- [17:41:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:41:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:41:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [17:42:55] Reencoding: VID_00004 (7 of 8)
- [17:42:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 62,914 frames
- [17:42:55] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:48:16] Video Encode complete
- [17:48:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:48:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:48:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:57:56] Reencoding: VID_00000 (8 of 8)
- [17:57:56] Collecting video information
- [17:57:56] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [17:57:56] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:59:34] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:06:21]PHASE ONE complete
[18:06:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:06:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:06:26] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:06:28]JOB: SHINING finished.

Capsbackup
13th January 2011, 02:11
@TheBreen;
Perhaps you could try setting BD-RB to two pass encoding, and remove the selection/checks next to One Pass (CRF) Encoding and One Pass (ABR) Encoding.
Sizing is much more accurate this way.

TheBreen
13th January 2011, 02:46
@TheBreen;
Perhaps you could try setting BD-RB to two pass encoding, and remove the selection/checks next to One Pass (CRF) Encoding and One Pass (ABR) Encoding.
Sizing is much more accurate this way.

Maybe I should try that, thanks. I have been using Automatic Quality Settings with AUTO_BIAS=2 in the config.

Still, in this case of The Shining, it seems to that any quality settings should produce the same result with target output BD25, because the video does not need to be re-encoded at all to get it under 25GB (or at least that's what I understand from my experiment with a higher custom target output). But I might be missing something...

Voyeurism
13th January 2011, 03:09
My backup with the test build is running overnight - I will hopefully post results in the morning.

jdobbs
13th January 2011, 14:35
Maybe I should try that, thanks. I have been using Automatic Quality Settings with AUTO_BIAS=2 in the config.

Still, in this case of The Shining, it seems to that any quality settings should produce the same result with target output BD25, because the video does not need to be re-encoded at all to get it under 25GB (or at least that's what I understand from my experiment with a higher custom target output). But I might be missing something...

Any quality setting should produce the same (or very close) size.

jdobbs
13th January 2011, 14:37
The test BD-RB file did not correct the audio out of sync problem on the movie Case 39.
That's disappointing, I thought that was it for sure. I'll pick up "Case 39" today and give it a run. Thanks for helping.

Capsbackup
13th January 2011, 15:47
That's disappointing, I thought that was it for sure. I'll pick up "Case 39" today and give it a run. Thanks for helping.

My pleasure. :)
I have not used IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown before, nor do I see many original Blu-rays with this type mpeg2 files, so this is really not a big concern for me. Probably more a concern for you and other users though. :p Since my backups are played back on my standalone S360, I'm not sure there would be much benefit upon display of this already not real good quality clip.
But I am happy to help test and promote development and features for BD-RB, so count me in as needed! :cool: :D

Voyeurism
13th January 2011, 19:34
The test BD-RB file did not correct the audio out of sync problem on the movie "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" either.

jdobbs
13th January 2011, 19:46
Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to figure it out from "Case 39".

omegaman7
13th January 2011, 20:40
I just backed up "A-Team". I used the custom output size of 23500, and got 22.9Gb(24,607,336,840 bytes). Excellent! Now if it can just average this LOL!

jdobbs
13th January 2011, 20:42
I just backed up "A-Team". I used the custom output size of 23500, and got 22.9Gb(24,607,336,840 bytes). Excellent! Now if it can just average this LOL!

Since that's also the default, why use "Custom"? Just select "BD-25".

omegaman7
13th January 2011, 20:47
Default I was averaging 22.4 - 22.5, and noticing(visually) that a significant amount of the disk was not being used. I assumed the default was smaller than that. But if you say it is 23500(0.37.01), I'll just go with the default setting. I was probably getting undersizing for unknown reasons.
The first time I ran the custom setting, I set it for 23450, and had a marginal increase in output size. I guess it was coincidence ;)

Dirk Diggler
13th January 2011, 22:15
I use 24600 (usually comes in at 99%) for all my movie only encodes and BD-25 for full backups which are usually Season Episode disc

jdobbs
13th January 2011, 22:24
Default I was averaging 22.4 - 22.5, and noticing(visually) that a significant amount of the disk was not being used. I assumed the default was smaller than that. But if you say it is 23500(0.37.01), I'll just go with the default setting. I was probably getting undersizing for unknown reasons.
The first time I ran the custom setting, I set it for 23450, and had a marginal increase in output size. I guess it was coincidence ;)
That's been the default since v0.36.01. If you set it to a lower number and got an increase -- then it's likely you changed some other setting -- because the exact same code is executed regardless of the size. Usually any variation would be in audio selections, because they are a little more unpredictable in their muxing overhead (example: a 192Kbs AC3 can often take the same or more space than a 224Kbs one).

omegaman7
13th January 2011, 22:34
When I tried the 23450, it was with a new encode(And was unaware of the default size). Had I left it at default for that disk, it likely would have been larger. I only do a Re-encode if there is something seriously wrong. Or if somebody asks me to test something. At an average job time being 7 - 9hrs, it's irritating to have to re-encode something. Not really complaining here. I understand the term beta. I love new toys, and playing with them ;)

cnote
13th January 2011, 23:13
I can't seem to figure this one out. Things have been going extremely well. This is my first try with the latest release. I appreciate the help!


[21:21:52] BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Source: 21
- Input BD size: 33.65 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:41.354]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:21:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:21:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [21:39:08] Reencoding: VID_00011 (1 of 1)
- [21:39:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 176,496 frames
- Bitrate: 7,754 Kbs
- [21:39:08] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[21:39:13] - Failed video encode, aborted

Capsbackup
14th January 2011, 00:36
I can't seem to figure this one out. Things have been going extremely well. This is my first try with the latest release. I appreciate the help!


Apparently something was changed for your decoding AVC video. Can you play the VID_00011.avs file BD-RB created in the Workfiles folder with MPC?
Usually a simple uninstall of Haali and ffdshow and then reinstall them will fix this.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 00:59
I believe I’m encountering Cinavia protection problems as they are the same issues I find on known releases of Movies with Cinavia and I don’t seem to have problems with anything else. My system checks out OK and I don’t have any Codecs outside of the required ffdshows. I’ve even done a clean system reinstall thinking there may be some issues not apparent. So I’m curious if this is Cinavia or a possible issue in BD-RB but another reason I don’t think it is BD-RB is that I’ve used the not so good DVDFab8 and it produces the same problems, so the only other variable here is AnyDVDHD.

Problem:
If I rip the following titles and keep the HD Audio & DTS I have problems with the BD25’s losing audio and freezing in spots of the movies. It tends to be anywhere from 10minutes to 20minute intervals. I can fast forward a frame or two and it picks up again fine. Also the timer will stop and won’t always pick up again. If I play the BD25 rip with TMT3 it plays fine and TMT3 doesn’t have Cinavia protection scheme in it.

The problem is lessened when I choose to transcode and convert the DTS to AC3 and was even better when I unchecked the only use one language audio feature, which I didn’t like anyway as I wanted the directors commentary on track 4 instead of dup’n track 1 to track 4.

With Gladiator (2 disc) Sapphire Edition at 10:03 on the extended version and DTS intact it always drops out audio, glitches a bit, and then freezes until I fast forward a bit and then it is fine other than possibly the timer remaining froze. If I convert audio to AC3 then it glitches just slightly, hardly noticeable, and keeps playing until the next point of concern at 32:51 were it will probably freeze but most certainly the timer will freeze even if the audio/video doesn’t. When that happens if I fast forward it jumps back to the timer freeze point and continues on from there. Here are some of the points that the movie has problems in;

Gladiator Extended Version
10:03
32:51
54:10
1:10:18
1:21:39
I stopped here but the 10min marker is like clockwork but will play through when using AC3 where the later points are more apt to freeze at.

Here are the titles I’ve encounter this problem with using my Cinavia firmware LG BD370V player;

Resident Evil: Afterlife 2D
Iron Man 2 (2 disc)
Iron Man (2 disc)
Gladiator (2 disc) Sapphire Edition
Toy Story 3 (2 disc)

I have no problems though with other new titles like Case 39 & Inception and have ripped over 100 BD’s with only having the VC1 problems way back when.

My BD Rebuilder Setup
Mode:
Full Backup
"Quicker" Encode for Extras

Settings:
Encoder - x264 Encoder
Output Options - Target Size BD-25
Encoder Settings - Idle Priority (Default) - Automatic Quality Settings
Verbose Status Reporting

Setup:
Audio Languages to Keep (set to ALL) - Limit to one track for each language (last rip this was unchecked)
Subtitle Language to Keep (set to ALL) - Limit to one track for each language
Video Encoding Options - (none checked in this section)
Audio Encoding Options - (none checked in this section)
General Encoding Options -
Strict AVCHD for BD-5/9 Movie-Only

NOTE: For the Setup section when I have the two following features selected is when I have DTS intact and encounter more issues with freezing and audio.
Audio Encoding Options -
Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Blu-Ray only)
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding

BD-RB System Inspect
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.9, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

LG BD370V Player
Main Ver: BD.8.08.027.B
Servo Ver: H51203
IO Micom Ver: 09063000

INF File for Log (http://hotfile.com/dl/96586710/3a02b8a/GLADIATOR_D1_AC3_Lang.INF.html)
DTS Audio INF File (http://hotfile.com/dl/96586914/739dbe7/GLADIATOR_D1_DTS.INF.html)

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 01:20
It's gotta be either the media or the burner -- most likely the media. There's also a remote possibility it could be the muxing from TSMUXER -- but if it were there'd be a lot of other people getting it too, and that's not happening. Of course it looks like you're keeping all languages and that's unusual. I would think though that the fact that you run into issues with DVDFab also makes muxing issues unlikely.

Try keeping only the audio languages you speak/understand and let me know how if it acts differently.

Sorry but I won't look at those "wait forever" links you've posted. I hate those things.

Cinavia has nothing to do with it.

Still think it's most likely media.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 01:26
It's gotta be either the media or the burner -- most likely the media. There's also a remote possibility it could be the muxing from TSMUXER -- but if it were there'd be a lot of other people getting it too, and that's not happening.

Sorry but I won't look at those "wait forever" links you've posted.

I've used two burners, and different media and the problem is always exactly the same, at the same points. I bought a new burner thinking the same as you.

AC3 Log INF
------------
[Status]
LABEL=GLADIATOR_D1
VERSION=v0.37.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=47781799466
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=46886111232
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.506458035056517
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=85
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00197]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=40452
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27011520
NSIZE=36864
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00189]
AUDIO=11
PGS=1111
M2TS_TARGET=43563
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27011520
NSIZE=49152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00187]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=7558266
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28624320
NSIZE=4294656
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00111]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=12972586
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28752480
NSIZE=13062144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00138]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=14357283
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28860480
NSIZE=13762560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=14761801
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28922400
NSIZE=17166336
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00143]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=16009584
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29092320
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jdobbs
14th January 2011, 01:34
Use the "code" feature to wrap your text (it's the "#" symbol above where you'r typing when you're composing a reply) and it will make it a lot easier to read. I just did it with an edit of your post. Looks better, eh?

Try not keeping so many languages.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 01:41
Use the "code" feature to wrap your text (it's the "#" symbol above where you'r typing when you're composing a reply) and it will make it a lot easier to read. I just did it with an edit of your post. Looks better, eh?

Try not keeping so many languages.

I'll try it with just the English main and directors comments track 4.

Sorry about the code thing I normally don't miss that.

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 01:44
I was just thinking that since it is rare that people keep more than a couple audio tracks (to improve video quality) there's always a chance that TSMUXER might be having trouble with it.

In fact... could you list the audio tracks so I can make a guess as to their total combined bitrate?

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 01:48
I was just thinking that since it is rare that people keep more than a couple audio tracks (to improve video quality) there's always a chance that TSMUXER might be having trouble with it.

I have friends that speak Spanish so I typically like to keep that and since I'm not close to Quebec or the French Quarter here in the US I don't care about French.

I've restarted it with just English but am allowing multiple english channels. I hope that won't cause issue but I can always limit the Audio to one language if need be.

Original Audio Tracks are as follows:
T1 - English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio
T2 - French 5.1 Dolby Digital
T3 - Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital
T4 - DD 2ch Commentary by Director Ripley Scott

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 01:58
My thinking is that the combined bitrate of all the audios (especially when keeping HD) might be challenging the mux... or possible the total bitrate is too high causing the freeze. Just guessing...

These types of things might sometimes only show up on certain players (depending on internal buffering).

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 02:02
My thinking is that the combined bitrate of all the audios (especially when keeping HD) might be challenging the mux... or possible the total bitrate is too high causing the freeze. Just guessing...

That's a definate possiblity and would be a good reason why keeping the DTS doesn't work well compared to converting the audio to AC3. But when converting to AC3 I still encounter problems so do you thing it is still the high bandwidth and tsmuxer? It could be my player as it doesn't have a huge buffer but it can play the original fine so that seems odd to me, I'm not saying it isn't so though.

Capsbackup
14th January 2011, 02:22
Is your PC overclocked? I have done Gladiator and other movies where I have kept the main HD audio and 2-3 commentary tracks, and have never had an issue when playing back on my Sony S360.

HWK
14th January 2011, 02:33
I did Resident evil afterlive with all audio and subtitle included as well and encounter no such problem.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 03:33
Is your PC overclocked? I have done Gladiator and other movies where I have kept the main HD audio and 2-3 commentary tracks, and have never had an issue when playing back on my Sony S360.

I have too in fact, until recent I haven't had one issue (other than the VC1 issue so very long ago) and I've backed up over 100 movies so far. Like I said I did Case 39 and Inception FULL movie backups with all audio and only had problems with Case 39 when I tried doing a BD9 full movie. I could only do Movie Only when going to BD9 with Case 39 but could do Full Movie for BD25. For Inception I did a full BD9 and had no problems either way with that one, BD25 or BD9. I played with the BD9's just to see what the quality difference would be and I was very impressed with the quality, better than DVDFab8 does with BD25's.

I'm not OC'n my PC either so there isn't a clocking issue, or at least there shouldn't be.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 03:37
I did Resident evil afterlive with all audio and subtitle included as well and encounter no such problem.

Do you have a player that is plagued with Cinavia? Because that is the issue with RE:Afterlife. I can rip it to BD25 or whatever without issue as long as I'm not playing it on a player that incorporates Cinavia, for instance TMT3 plays it fine just like it does for these movies I'm having issue with. That is why I'm woundering if it is AnyDVDHD, BD-RB, and/or Cinavia protection.

People with PS3 player have said that re-encoding the audio and remuxing works for them allowing them to play Cinavia movies on their PS3's. That is why after running into trouble and buying a new burner I decided to convert the audio to AC3, which helped but didn't do the trick totally.

setarip_old
14th January 2011, 03:53
@Mr. Movies

Hi!

1) "Cinavia" protection in no way interferes with BD Rebuilder (or any other backup, conversion, or compression programs)

2) Most of the titles you've listed do not contain "Cinavia". As of today, the only released discs infected with Cinavia are:

Blu-ray discs:
The Losers *(Warner Brothers, volume name=THE_LOSERS) (English track only)
The Karate Kid (2010)* (Sony, volume name=THE_KARATE_KID) (most of the tracks)
The Other Guys (Sony, 14dec2010) (English track only)
Resident Evil: Afterlife 2D* (Sony, 28dec2010) (English track only)
Resident Evil: Afterlife 3D* (Sony, 28dec2010) (English track only)
Salt (Sony, 21dec2010) (English track only)
The Social Network (Sony, 11jan2011) (English track only)
Takers (Sony, 18jan2011) (English track only)
* for those, in teritories where the movie is not released by Warner Bros. or Sony, the Blu-ray does not have Cinavia

DVD discs:
Takers (Sony, 18jan2011) (English track only)

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 04:13
@Mr. Movies

Hi!

1) "Cinavia" protection in no way interferes with BD Rebuilder (or any other backup, conversion, or compression programs

2) Most of the titles you've listed do not contain "Cinavia". As of today, the only released discs infected with Cinavia are:

Blu-ray discs:
The Losers *(Warner Brothers, volume name=THE_LOSERS) (English track only)
The Karate Kid (2010)* (Sony, volume name=THE_KARATE_KID) (most of the tracks)
The Other Guys (Sony, 14dec2010) (English track only)
Resident Evil: Afterlife 2D* (Sony, 28dec2010) (English track only)
Resident Evil: Afterlife 3D* (Sony, 28dec2010) (English track only)
Salt (Sony, 21dec2010) (English track only)
The Social Network (Sony, 11jan2011) (English track only)
Takers (Sony, 18jan2011) (English track only)
* for those, in teritories where the movie is not released by Warner Bros. or Sony, the Blu-ray does not have Cinavia

DVD discs:
Takers (Sony, 18jan2011) (English track only)

1) I didn't say that Cinavia effected BD-RB I'm questioning where the issue may be, it can be in several areas of course and I've eliminate several of those.

The effects I'm getting with my Cinavia plagued player is exactly the same I get off of the known movies in the list you provided.

2) The list isn't static it is dynamic and will change and add with time. Who is to say that as they continue to puch out new discs of any movie, they won't add the watermark to them. This is why I question these older movies I'm having problems with and because again on my S.A. player they act exactly the same as known movies with Cinavia and I just bought these. I wouldn't think the manufacture would wast their time putting the watermark on these but I've run out of avenues to test, for the most part, and I don't have a player with a firmware version that is AACS Cinavia clean, I wish I did life would be much easier.

This is why I'm asking some of the pro's here for help hoping someone might have an idea what is going on.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 04:30
Is your PC overclocked? I have done Gladiator and other movies where I have kept the main HD audio and 2-3 commentary tracks, and have never had an issue when playing back on my Sony S360.

I checked your Sony S360 and unless things have changed your player does not have Cinavia so you are lucky. I wish I didn't give away my Sony BX1 now as it would help for testing and trouble shooting.

setarip_old
14th January 2011, 04:32
they act exactly the same as known movies with Cinavia and I just bought theseDo they exhibit the Cinavia name and "Error code" when you play them on your standalone player?

What is the brand and model number of your standalone player?

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 04:42
Do they exhibit the Cinavia name and "Error code" when you play them on your standalone player?

What is the brand and model number of your standalone player?

LG BD370V
Main Ver: BD.8.08.027.B
Servo Ver: H51203
IO Micom Ver: 09063000

I don't get the Cinavia name and error code on RE:Afterlife but it does freeze up and loose audio at the proper intervals. And my unit is in the list of players with the protection.

setarip_old
14th January 2011, 05:05
The only reference (using DVDFab Forum and SlySoft Forum as the reliable sources) to what MAY be your unit is:

LG BD570 latest BD.8.31.323.C firmware, some firmwares earlier than 300.C contained cinavia

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 05:37
The only reference (using DVDFab Forum and SlySoft Forum as the reliable sources) to what MAY be your unit is:



I use those two forums however they are not the only reliable sources and I can't remember exactly which forum I found it on, I actually thought it was Slysoft but it must have been somewhere else. If I can find the source I'l post it back here, I'll dig around again...

I've dug around the internet and have found out more on my LG. First your probably right someone else in a current thread is saying his BD370 is Cinavia free he doesn't provide a firmware or driver level though, so It must of been late when and my eyes were not fully open. I couldn't find the thread I originally found either. Second on Blu-Ray Forum or it might of even been DVDFab there were some people having problems with LG's firmwares and one of them had called LG and it seems he has a problem with Iron Man 2 that they are doing a bug fix for. I'm not sure what his issues are but that does open my eyes to the player being the problem, which wouldn't be good news as I can't really roll back my firmware and would need to wait for an update to possibly fix the problem.

It looks like I should find a friend with a different player to see if my player is the problem. I still have several coasters that I haven't thrown out yet I could test as well.

Mr. Movies
14th January 2011, 09:12
I was just thinking that since it is rare that people keep more than a couple audio tracks (to improve video quality) there's always a chance that TSMUXER might be having trouble with it.

In fact... could you list the audio tracks so I can make a guess as to their total combined bitrate?

Using just English didn't fix it so I should isolate the player by using someone elses to see if this plays on theirs.

If you think of anything I've missed or need to do please advise and thanks for all of the help so far.

UPDATED (28-JAN-2011)The issue was my LG player's firmware which I'm stuck with until they upgrade it hopefully. A friend of mine has an LG too, different model, and he hasn't upgraded to the latest like mine so he can't even play the Inception BD9 full movie backup which I can. But when I play my BD25's that won't play without freezing they do work on my uncles Samsung BDP1500, they play perfectly, however his player won't play my BD9's, his firmware has never been updated.

mask0rz
14th January 2011, 09:25
Thanks. I think this is it -- but can't be sure until its tested.

Iam also having Audio Sync issues when backing up Taken on a BD-25 rip. Full backup seems to work but when i do a movie only backup the audio gets out of sync.
Happens on both the DTS and Dolby True HD track. Also it doesn't work when i select to keep the full Dobly True HD track for BD-25 reencode.

Using auto compression settings and tried changing settings a bit to eventually only remove the Workfiles with no luck either.

Ow yea, and i tried the 0.37.02 fix you posted a few posts back with no luck :)

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 15:57
Iam also having Audio Sync issues when backing up Taken on a BD-25 rip. Full backup seems to work but when i do a movie only backup the audio gets out of sync.
Happens on both the DTS and Dolby True HD track. Also it doesn't work when i select to keep the full Dobly True HD track for BD-25 reencode.

Using auto compression settings and tried changing settings a bit to eventually only remove the Workfiles with no luck either.

Ow yea, and i tried the 0.37.02 fix you posted a few posts back with no luck :) Are you using all the recommended versions from the first post? There is no current issue that I'm working related to sync other than on 480i and/or hybrid/pulldown sources (as reported by Capsbackup). It is very unlikely that the main feature would be either.

What does "Also it doesn't work when i select to keep the full Dobly True HD track for BD-25 reencode" mean?

mask0rz
14th January 2011, 17:11
Are you using all the recommended versions from the first post? There is no current issue that I'm working related to sync other than on 480i and/or hybrid/pulldown sources (as reported by Capsbackup). It is very unlikely that the main feature would be either.

What does "Also it doesn't work when i select to keep the full Dobly True HD track for BD-25 reencode" mean?

Yea i do use the right versions. I've been using your program for some time now and usually works flawless :)

And about you question, i meant the option you can select in the program called "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding".
I was not at my home computer and could not exactly remember the option.

The funny thing is also that when i do movie only on this disc it can keep the full movie so there is no compression needed but audio gets out of sync.
In this case i can also use tsmuxer myself to shrink the BD (which does work) but i thought that it might be helpfull to post since others had sync issues in the latest build.

I did find it a bit weird why full backup works and movie only suddenly not on this disc.

A.Fenderson
14th January 2011, 20:20
And about you question, i meant the option you can select in the program called "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding".
I was not at my home computer and could not exactly remember the option.

I believe he also meant "In what sense isn't it working? What precisely is it doing/not doing?" etc. Just trying to help clarify, sorry if I'm out of bounds.

Warbucks81
14th January 2011, 21:40
Jdobbs, I'm trying to backup Generation Kill Disc 1. When attempting a full backup, it lists "Approximate Source Content" at over six hours, when there is only a little over three hours. I've verified this using readmpls.exe. It looks to me as though the amount is doubled. When attempting to run the backup process, the bitrates end up being almost halved what they should be and I get a severely undersized output (around 16gb).


Any ideas?

Note: I'm using the correct versions of each software from your first post.

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 22:50
Yea i do use the right versions. I've been using your program for some time now and usually works flawless :)

And about you question, i meant the option you can select in the program called "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding".
I was not at my home computer and could not exactly remember the option.

The funny thing is also that when i do movie only on this disc it can keep the full movie so there is no compression needed but audio gets out of sync.
In this case i can also use tsmuxer myself to shrink the BD (which does work) but i thought that it might be helpfull to post since others had sync issues in the latest build.

I did find it a bit weird why full backup works and movie only suddenly not on this disc. What disc is it?

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 22:52
Jdobbs, I'm trying to backup Generation Kill Disc 1. When attempting a full backup, it lists "Approximate Source Content" at over six hours, when there is only a little over three hours. I've verified this using readmpls.exe. It looks to me as though the amount is doubled. When attempting to run the backup process, the bitrates end up being almost halved what they should be and I get a severely undersized output (around 16gb).


Any ideas?

Note: I'm using the correct versions of each software from your first post.Hmm... I guess I'll have to test that one too. The size is a part of what is used to determine the quality options.

mask0rz
14th January 2011, 22:57
What disc is it?

Taken, dutch version (prolly UK then i guess?).

And i did notice something interesting maybe. I saw the movie is encoded on 24 fps. Usually its 23.976 on most movies, but i have to say iam not paying too much attention to that.....

jdobbs
14th January 2011, 23:08
Taken, dutch version (prolly UK then i guess?).

And i did notice something interesting maybe. I saw the movie is encoded on 24 fps. Usually its 23.976 on most movies, but i have to say iam not paying too much attention to that..... Ahhh.. good to know. If you still have it, can you post the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta contents?

Warbucks81
15th January 2011, 00:38
Hmm... I guess I'll have to test that one too. The size is a part of what is used to determine the quality options.

I checked the length of each episode. It's not doubling exactly, it's adding an hour to each episode(playlist).

IE: Length of all episodes combined is 3:34. It's showing 6:34 as "approximate source content".

If I select "movie-only" and use "other movie playlist", and select one episode, it will add one hour on top of the original length.

Hope this helps.

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 00:44
:( The test BD-RB file did not correct the audio out of sync problem on the movie Case 39. :devil:

...

The audio is ahead of the video. The original 00270mpls for these 18 scenes, VID_00016 to VID_00033, reports a total time of 00:30:06, and the BD-RB backup reports 00:37:37, the same as before.
I am not sure if this helps, but if I run DGAVCIndex on the BD-RB backup 00016.m2ts file, it reports 29.970fps.
If I run DGAVCIndex on the VID_00016.AVS.264, it reports 37.462537fps. :confused:
Let me know what else I can provide that may be of help.Can you give me some hints as to how I can make this happen? Can you post your INI file? I've run this several times with IVTC enabled -- and the runs have all been in-sync on the extras. IVTC is taking place -- and as far as I can see so far it should...

cnote
15th January 2011, 02:07
Apparently something was changed for your decoding AVC video. Can you play the VID_00011.avs file BD-RB created in the Workfiles folder with MPC?
Usually a simple uninstall of Haali and ffdshow and then reinstall them will fix this.

I reinstalled both and it worked. I really appreciate that Caps!

Capsbackup
15th January 2011, 05:06
Can you give me some hints as to how I can make this happen? Can you post your INI file? I've run this several times with IVTC enabled -- and the runs have all been in-sync on the extras. IVTC is taking place -- and as far as I can see so far it should...

The only extras that were out of sync were the Deleted Scenes, which are VID_00016 to VID_00033.
:o I have deleted the previous files, but from my previous post is below. I had selected IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown and Use DECOMB filter on Interlaced sources.
I can run it again though if necessary.
Running it now, will post when complete.

[Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100
KEEP_MBTREE=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=4500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8400
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
VERSION=0.37.0.2
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BD RIPS\CASE_39_AC\
WORKING_PATH=G:\CASE_39 BDRB TEST\

-----------------------
[07:54:07] BD Rebuilder v0.37.02 (beta)
- Source: CASE_39_AC
- Input BD size: 35.49 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:44:02.565]
- Target BD size: 8.20 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Quality: Better (Faster), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:54:07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:54:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [07:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 29)
- [07:54:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 5,375 Kbs
- [07:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:54:25] Video Encode complete
- [07:54:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:54:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:54:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [07:54:31] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 29)
- [07:54:31] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,080 frames
- Bitrate: 4,040 Kbs
- [07:54:31] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:55:05] Video Encode complete
- [07:55:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:55:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:55:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:55:09] Reencoding: VID_00002 (3 of 29)
- [07:55:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 5,375 Kbs
- [07:55:09] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:55:24] Video Encode complete
- [07:55:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:55:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:55:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [07:55:29] Reencoding: VID_00003 (4 of 29)
- [07:55:29] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 357 frames
- Bitrate: 5,375 Kbs
- [07:55:29] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:55:43] Video Encode complete
- [07:55:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:55:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:55:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [07:55:49] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 29)
- [07:55:49] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 959 frames
- Bitrate: 4,040 Kbs
- [07:55:49] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:56:13] Video Encode complete
- [07:56:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:56:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:56:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [07:56:24] Reencoding: VID_00006 (6 of 29)
- [07:56:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,983 frames
- Bitrate: 902 Kbs
- [07:56:24] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:57:20] Video Encode complete
- [07:57:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [07:57:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:57:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [08:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00015 (7 of 29)
- [08:17:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 157,417 frames
- Bitrate: 8,455 Kbs
- [08:17:18] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:18:51] Video Encode complete
- [10:18:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:22:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [10:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00016 (8 of 29)
- [10:26:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,494 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 889 Kbs
- [10:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:18] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [10:26:21] Reencoding: VID_00017 (9 of 29)
- [10:26:21] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,684 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 867 Kbs
- [10:26:21] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:30] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [10:26:33] Reencoding: VID_00018 (10 of 29)
- [10:26:33] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,844 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 860 Kbs
- [10:26:33] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:42] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [10:26:45] Reencoding: VID_00019 (11 of 29)
- [10:26:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 958 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 904 Kbs
- [10:26:45] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:26:50] Video Encode complete
- [10:26:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:26:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:26:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [10:26:53] Reencoding: VID_00020 (12 of 29)
- [10:26:53] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,844 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 892 Kbs
- [10:26:53] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:27:03] Video Encode complete
- [10:27:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:27:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:27:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [10:27:10] Reencoding: VID_00021 (13 of 29)
- [10:27:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,309 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 860 Kbs
- [10:27:10] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:27:35] Video Encode complete
- [10:27:35] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:27:36] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:27:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [10:27:39] Reencoding: VID_00022 (14 of 29)
- [10:27:39] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,500 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 894 Kbs
- [10:27:39] Reencoding: VID_00022, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:27:46] Video Encode complete
- [10:27:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:27:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:27:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [10:27:50] Reencoding: VID_00023 (15 of 29)
- [10:27:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,047 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 910 Kbs
- [10:27:50] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:28:00] Video Encode complete
- [10:28:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:28:01] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:28:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [10:28:06] Reencoding: VID_00024 (16 of 29)
- [10:28:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 3,585 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 892 Kbs
- [10:28:06] Reencoding: VID_00024, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:28:24] Video Encode complete
- [10:28:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:28:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:28:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [10:28:30] Reencoding: VID_00025 (17 of 29)
- [10:28:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 4,195 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 856 Kbs
- [10:28:30] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:28:51] Video Encode complete
- [10:28:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:28:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:28:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [10:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00026 (18 of 29)
- [10:28:56] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,955 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 896 Kbs
- [10:28:56] Reencoding: VID_00026, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:29:06] Video Encode complete
- [10:29:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:29:06] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:29:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [10:29:13] Reencoding: VID_00027 (19 of 29)
- [10:29:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,239 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 906 Kbs
- [10:29:13] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:29:38] Video Encode complete
- [10:29:38] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:29:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:29:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [10:29:44] Reencoding: VID_00028 (20 of 29)
- [10:29:44] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,856 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 942 Kbs
- [10:29:44] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:29:58] Video Encode complete
- [10:29:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:29:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:29:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [10:30:02] Reencoding: VID_00029 (21 of 29)
- [10:30:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,267 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 875 Kbs
- [10:30:02] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:13] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:30:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:30:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [10:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00030 (22 of 29)
- [10:30:18] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 2,591 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 947 Kbs
- [10:30:18] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:30:30] Video Encode complete
- [10:30:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:30:31] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:30:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [10:30:38] Reencoding: VID_00031 (23 of 29)
- [10:30:38] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,136 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 904 Kbs
- [10:30:39] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:31:09] Video Encode complete
- [10:31:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:31:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:31:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [10:31:13] Reencoding: VID_00032 (24 of 29)
- [10:31:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,426 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 921 Kbs
- [10:31:13] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:31:21] Video Encode complete
- [10:31:21] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:31:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:31:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00033]
- [10:31:30] Reencoding: VID_00033 (25 of 29)
- [10:31:30] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,214 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 920 Kbs
- [10:31:30] Reencoding: VID_00033, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:32:05] Video Encode complete
- [10:32:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:32:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:32:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [10:32:24] Reencoding: VID_00034 (26 of 29)
- [10:32:24] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 14,600 frames
- Bitrate: 874 Kbs
- [10:32:25] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:34:01] Video Encode complete
- [10:34:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:34:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:34:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [10:34:13] Reencoding: VID_00035 (27 of 29)
- [10:34:13] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 7,929 frames
- Bitrate: 857 Kbs
- [10:34:14] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:35:07] Video Encode complete
- [10:35:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:35:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:35:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00036]
- [10:35:16] Reencoding: VID_00036 (28 of 29)
- [10:35:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 5,456 frames
- Bitrate: 855 Kbs
- [10:35:16] Reencoding: VID_00036, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:35:52] Video Encode complete
- [10:35:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:35:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:35:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_01001]
- [10:35:59] Reencoding: VID_01001 (29 of 29)
- [10:35:59] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,080 frames
- Bitrate: 4,040 Kbs
- [10:35:59] Reencoding: VID_01001, Pass 1 of 1
- [10:36:33] Video Encode complete
- [10:36:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:36:33] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:36:35]PHASE ONE complete
[10:36:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:36:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:36:40] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 05:23
@Capsbackup

Did it have the issue when played individually or as a group from the MPLS? I've looked at all of them individually and they are in-sync. I did notice, though, that they are all part of a multipart MPLS.

I'm starting to doubt the use of DirectShowSource() with MPEG-2... there have been a couple of oddities for which I've had to build workarounds. It may just be smarter to use DGINDEX and DGMPEGDEC (although it might add a little more complexity to the current code).

Capsbackup
15th January 2011, 05:36
@Capsbackup

Did it have the issue when played individually or as a group from the MPLS? I've looked at all of them individually and they are in-sync. I did notice, though, that they are all part of a multipart MPLS.

I'm starting to doubt the use of DirectShowSource() with MPEG-2... there have been a couple of oddities for which I've had to build workarounds. It may just be smarter to use DGINDEX and DGMPEGDEC (although it might add a little more complexity to the current code).

I was using the Playall button, and starting from the first clip, Let Her Sleep, the audio was out.
I am running a fast backup now, and will post the files again.
I usually know better than to delete them until things are resolved, but I guess I had a senior moment again. :rolleyes:

When I unselected IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown, these same deleted scenes were in sync.

mask0rz
15th January 2011, 14:39
Ahhh.. good to know. If you still have it, can you post the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta contents?

Here ya go :)


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:08.750;00:15:56.583;00:22:51.791;00:32:31.916;00:39:07.708;00:45:58.583;00:54:27.333;01:04:07.000;01:12:46.458;01:20:11.750;01:28:14.041;01:33:26.541 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "*Removed*\00009.track_4113.264", fps=29.97, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "*Removed*\00009.track_4353.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "*Removed*00009.track_4608.SUP",fps=29.97,lang=nld
S_HDMV/PGS, "*Removed*\00009.track_4609.SUP",fps=29.97,lang=nld

Capsbackup
15th January 2011, 14:47
Well I ran it again, and I get the same results. The audio is out regardless of playing each individual scene or the playall button.
As I mentioned before, the total time of 00270.mpls of the backup is reported as 00:37:37, 480P where the original is 00:30:06, 480i.
From BDInfo:
Disc Title: CASE_39_AC BD9 TEST
Disc Size: 8,448,351,842 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.6

Notes:

PLAYLIST: 00270.MPLS
********************
Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00270.MPLS AVC 0:37:37 0 8,448,351,842 0.00 0.00 DD AC3 2.0 224Kbps

DISC INFO:

Disc Title: CASE_39_AC BD9 TEST
Disc Size: 8,448,351,842 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00270.MPLS
Length: 0:37:37 (h:m:s)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

Capsbackup
15th January 2011, 14:56
From BD-RB:
[Options]
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=100
KEEP_MBTREE=1
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=4500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
FULL_AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8400
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
VERSION=0.37.0.2
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BD RIPS\CASE_39_AC\
WORKING_PATH=G:\CASE_39 BDRB TEST\

[Status]
LABEL=CASE_39_AC
VERSION=v0.37.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=38107400570
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38073772032
TARGET_SIZE=8808038400
REDUCTION=.230458118376749
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=29
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12188366
RATE=5375
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27671040
NSIZE=10530816
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=24467351
RATE=4040
NSIZE=24109056
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00002]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12188366
RATE=5375
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27671040
NSIZE=10524672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00003]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12188366
RATE=5375
NSTART=27000000
NEND=27671040
NSIZE=10524672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=21727518
RATE=4040
NSIZE=24256512
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=43796276
RATE=902
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38986560
NSIZE=43431936
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=10111000
M2TS_TARGET=8185063866
RATE=8455
NSTART=27000000
NEND=322452000
NSIZE=7822632960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=7974544
RATE=889
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29801048
NSIZE=8318976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=8974194
RATE=867
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30158405
NSIZE=9314304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=9938446
RATE=860
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30457954
NSIZE=10125312
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00019]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=5189401
RATE=904
NSTART=27000000
NEND=28795043
NSIZE=5541888
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00020]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=9762870
RATE=892
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30458705
NSIZE=10039296
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=27838692
RATE=860
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36962452
NSIZE=28207104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=7967464
RATE=894
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29812309
NSIZE=8355840
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=10804998
RATE=910
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30840086
NSIZE=11120640
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00024]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=18714409
RATE=892
NSTART=27000000
NEND=33726720
NSIZE=19740672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00025]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=22099908
RATE=856
NSTART=27000000
NEND=34870863
NSIZE=23089152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00026]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=10364642
RATE=896
NSTART=27000000
NEND=30667413
NSIZE=10665984
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00027]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=27238335
RATE=906
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36830320
NSIZE=27660288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=15333157
RATE=942
NSTART=27000000
NEND=32358102
NSIZE=15691776
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=11865533
RATE=875
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31252998
NSIZE=12244992
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=14258462
RATE=947
NSTART=27000000
NEND=31860355
NSIZE=14555136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00031]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=31851451
RATE=904
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38513502
NSIZE=32354304
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=7667286
RATE=921
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29674171
NSIZE=7962624
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00033]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=38708822
RATE=920
NSTART=27000000
NEND=40538274
NSIZE=38860800
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00034]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=80188629
RATE=874
NSTART=27000000
NEND=48922560
NSIZE=79853568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00035]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=42394500
RATE=857
NSTART=27000000
NEND=38905920
NSIZE=41883648
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00036]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1111
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=29186662
RATE=855
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35193600
NSIZE=29048832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[01001]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=24467351
RATE=4040
NSIZE=24109056
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 16:01
Here ya go :)


MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:08:08.750;00:15:56.583;00:22:51.791;00:32:31.916;00:39:07.708;00:45:58.583;00:54:27.333;01:04:07.000;01:12:46.458;01:20:11.750;01:28:14.041;01:33:26.541 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "*Removed*\00009.track_4113.264", fps=29.97, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "*Removed*\00009.track_4353.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "*Removed*00009.track_4608.SUP",fps=29.97,lang=nld
S_HDMV/PGS, "*Removed*\00009.track_4609.SUP",fps=29.97,lang=nld You're saying the original is 24fps? I don't understand, then, why this is remuxing at 29.97? Can you post the contents of your BDREBUILDER.INI and LOG files?

mask0rz
15th January 2011, 16:11
You're saying the original is 24fps? I don't understand, then, why this is remuxing at 29.97? Can you post the contents of your BDREBUILDER.INI and LOG files?

BD-rebuilder.ini

[Options]
VERSION=0.37.0.2
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500

LOG

-----------------------
[13:53:54] BD Rebuilder v0.37.02 (beta)
- Source: TAKEN
- Input BD size: 25,06 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:32.541]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:53:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:53:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [14:09:53] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
- [14:09:53] Collecting video information
- [14:09:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:09:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [14:09:53] Multiplexing M2TS
[14:21:03]PHASE ONE complete
[14:21:03]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:21:03] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:31:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:31:01]JOB: TAKEN finished.

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 16:17
No that's even more confusing... :confused: It wasn't even reencoded????

Is this an original disc with no proprocessing? It almost sounds like the CLPI file isn't matching the actual stream in the source....

Is the source MPEG, AVC, or VC-1? I can't tell because the verbose status reporting has been turned off.

mask0rz
15th January 2011, 16:21
No that's even more confusing... :confused: It wasn't even reencoded????

yep...... and thats why it goes wrong i think... when i do full backup it has 2 reencode and then it works fine.

to prove it has 24 FPS source.

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 16:27
I obviously need to do more testing with 24fps sources...

mask0rz
15th January 2011, 16:31
I obviously need to do more testing with 24fps sources...

Well it is not a big deal because i can remux myself with TSmuxer and that does work fine. But i thought it was kinda weird :)

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 16:32
yep...... and thats why it goes wrong i think... when i do full backup it has 2 reencode and then it works fine.

to prove it has 24 FPS source. Ok, I found it. Apparently 24fps is rare -- because based on the code it looks like it has never worked in movie-only mode. :eek: It always get set to either 23.976 or 29.97.

I'll have it fixed for the next release.

mask0rz
15th January 2011, 17:00
Ok, I found it. Apparently 24fps is rare -- because based on the code it looks like it has never worked in movie-only mode. :eek: It always get set to either 23.976 or 29.97.

I'll have it fixed for the next release.

A great, Thanks for the good work. Programs usually works like a charm. :p

Voyeurism
15th January 2011, 18:11
Ok, I found it. Apparently 24fps is rare -- because based on the code it looks like it has never worked in movie-only mode. :eek: It always get set to either 23.976 or 29.97.

I'll have it fixed for the next release.

Is this likely to fix the problem I was having with "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" as well, or do you think that is caused by something else?

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 18:22
Is this likely to fix the problem I was having with "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" as well, or do you think that is caused by something else?If it is 24fps and movie-only, then yes it probably will.

Voyeurism
15th January 2011, 18:44
Also, strangely, the frame rate for the video stream is shown in VLC as 23.976023 for the stream on the disk, and 47.952047 for the BD5 - although that can't possibly be correct, as it's definitely not running at double speed.

If it is 24fps and movie-only, then yes it probably will.

I don't think it is 24fps, given the above. I guess I will await the next build and see whether it makes any difference. I've attached the .INF and .LOG files in case you want to take a look.

EDIT: I've also just noticed that the audio is out of sync on my backup of "New Moon" (2nd movie in the Twighlight tilogy). The frame rate for the video stream on the original disk is shown as 23.976023fps in both VLC and BD Rebuilder, but VLC shows the stream in the rebuilt BD5 as 47.952047fps.

Sharc
15th January 2011, 19:05
Ok, I found it. Apparently 24fps is rare -- because based on the code it looks like it has never worked in movie-only mode. :eek: It always get set to either 23.976 or 29.97.

I'll have it fixed for the next release.
Thanks.
24fps is probably not as rare as you think. I have a couple of these ....
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1469375#post1469375

superdawg59
15th January 2011, 19:13
Hello,

Maybe someone can help? I have done over 60 backups and have not encountered this before. I usually can find an answer on this site from you gentlemen who are much more tech savvy than I. I am getting the following when trying to rebuild kill bill vol 1 us. it says:

Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
AV frame too large (65164 bytes) increase buff
Failed to retrieve audio.

this happens in movie only as well as full back up. I have all the correct versions of ffdshow and avisynth and haali and they are all correctly set by the inspect button on bd rebuilder. if I can reset the buffer can some one tell my dumb ass how. thank you in advance for any and all help.
tom c

colinhunt
15th January 2011, 20:23
Ok, I found it. Apparently 24fps is rare -- because based on the code it looks like it has never worked in movie-only mode. :eek: It always get set to either 23.976 or 29.97. I'll have it fixed for the next release.
Good to know. Of the past 10 titles I've done 5 were 24fps exactly.

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 20:33
I don't think it is 24fps, given the above. I guess I will await the next build and see whether it makes any difference. I've attached the .INF and .LOG files in case you want to take a look.

EDIT: I've also just noticed that the audio is out of sync on my backup of "New Moon" (2nd movie in the Twighlight tilogy). The frame rate for the video stream on the original disk is shown as 23.976023fps in both VLC and BD Rebuilder, but VLC shows the stream in the rebuilt BD5 as 47.952047fps.

That's similar to Capsbackup's report. I'm still looking, but right now I have to believe there is something different between your setup and mine. I've been testing it to death and I can't get it to happen for me. It sounds like pulldown was applied -- but pulldown is never applied to an HD (1920x1080) source.

colinhunt
15th January 2011, 20:42
By the by, how does BD-RB process 1080i25 sources?

Some statistics: of the 79 titles I have waiting for encoding, 20 are something else than 1080p23.976. Of them, 13 are 24.00fps, 3 are 1080i25 and the rest are 1080i29.97.

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 20:52
Thanks.
24fps is probably not as rare as you think. I have a couple of these ....
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1469375#post1469375 I traced it down to a change made in v0.36.1 as a part of the DVD Output routines.

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 20:52
By the by, how does BD-RB process 1080i25 sources? Not sure I know what you're asking? It processes them like any other stream...

colinhunt
15th January 2011, 21:10
Not sure I know what you're asking? It processes them like any other stream...
It's output as 1080i25? Since BD has no support for 1080p25 and some movies are shot in 25fps here in Europe, authoring shops tend to encode progressive frames but flag them as 1080i25 to get round the limitation.

Crocluvr92
15th January 2011, 22:29
Cant seem to encode Inception, heres the log:


-----------------------
[13:52:01] BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Source: INCEPTION
- Input BD size: 40.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:27:06.580]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:52:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:52:02] Reencoding: VID_00053 (4 of 46)
- [13:52:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,256 frames
- [13:52:02] Reencoding: VID_00053, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 2527, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[13:55:05] - Failed video encode, aborted


What is the Recommended version of Haali Splitter and FFDShow for this version of BD Rebuilder?

omegaman7
15th January 2011, 22:33
Cant seem to encode Inception, heres the log:


-----------------------
[13:52:01] BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Source: INCEPTION
- Input BD size: 40.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:27:06.580]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[13:52:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:52:02] Reencoding: VID_00053 (4 of 46)
- [13:52:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,256 frames
- [13:52:02] Reencoding: VID_00053, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 2527, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[13:55:05] - Failed video encode, aborted


What is the Recommended version of Haali Splitter and FFDShow for this version of BD Rebuilder?

Probably the ones that Jdobbs linked in his very first post on this thread ;)

Crocluvr92
15th January 2011, 22:37
And what Page would that be on ? Being that there is over 500 pages.

omegaman7
15th January 2011, 22:41
And what Page would that be on ? Being that there is over 500 pages.

He started the thread, and designed the application. The very first post on this thread. Page 1 ;)

L4a-Thompson
15th January 2011, 23:10
hello,

@jdobbs
did you found any problem witch i have with the asynchronouse streams, at the movie only dvd output with the 23,976 sources?

jdobbs
15th January 2011, 23:27
hello,

@jdobbs
did you found any problem witch i have with the asynchronouse streams, at the movie only dvd output with the 23,976 sources?No, and I do those every day -- sometimes 2-3 each day -- totaling over around 2000 backups, and I have never had one that was out of sync.

However your issue was related to PAL conversion during DVD backup and that is new code and might need some tweaking -- but I've done quite a bit of testing and can't repeat any sync issues. Quite a few others have tried it too with no problems.

1Bullet
16th January 2011, 00:56
Overall I am not having any major issues, however I am seeing one small bug that may have been in other versions but I did not notice it
I am doing a backup of a movie, the closer the movie to 24 gb or smaller before processing it, BD rebuilder seems to miss target by about 1 gb.
I backed a 23878 mb and final movie end up at 21013 mb. I was hoping for reduction of 900mb and it was more than double.
In the past when more encoding is required (larger file) usually it is closer to 22700 to 23000 mb

jdobbs
16th January 2011, 03:49
I was using the Playall button, and starting from the first clip, Let Her Sleep, the audio was out.
I am running a fast backup now, and will post the files again.
I usually know better than to delete them until things are resolved, but I guess I had a senior moment again. :rolleyes:

When I unselected IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown, these same deleted scenes were in sync. I loaded up your INI and was able to repeat the goofiness. I don't know what caused it yet, but I think I should be able to find it quick enough.

jdobbs
16th January 2011, 04:10
I was using the Playall button, and starting from the first clip, Let Her Sleep, the audio was out.
I am running a fast backup now, and will post the files again.
I usually know better than to delete them until things are resolved, but I guess I had a senior moment again. :rolleyes:

When I unselected IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown, these same deleted scenes were in sync. I loaded up your INI and was able to repeat the goofiness. I don't know what caused it yet, but I think I should be able to find it quick enough. Ok, I found it. It was only happening when the source was pulldown, and IVTC was set at the same time as DEINTERLACE.

Capsbackup
16th January 2011, 05:19
Ok, I found it. It was only happening when the source was pulldown, and IVTC was set at the same time as DEINTERLACE.

Excellent! :)
So should those two settings not be used together? :confused:

dpa34
16th January 2011, 05:31
I am looking online and Deciding Between a I7 2600 and a I5 2500k I don't play many Games But I would x.264 or Bd re-builder Does the Fact the I5 2500 not have Hyper threading and does not have the extra 4 threads really affect the speed compared to a I7 9500 or I7 2600 ?

jdobbs
16th January 2011, 07:23
Excellent! :)
So should those two settings not be used together? :confused: It should be okay to have them both selected... so they will work when needed. The bug was in the order I considered them. Now that I've fixed the bug it for the next release you shouldn't have to worry about it. But in practice they are never active (while encoding) at the same time even when selected -- because a source with telecining is progressive, so it needs no deinterlacing.

Crocluvr92
16th January 2011, 08:51
@omegaman7

" He started the thread, and designed the application. The very first post on this thread. Page 1 "


The instructions tell me what programs to Download, but NOT the proper versions for BD Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)

- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.01 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Isn't recommended version
- FFDSHOW: 2527, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [0]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Can someone please tell me what the proper versions of Haali Splitter and FFDSHOW to get for this version of BD Rebuilder? :)