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chudm
9th July 2009, 20:38
yeah i know what you meant, but maybe you should look for another player! cause it seems that one you have doesnt work with any "full backup" on bd5/bd9

chudm
9th July 2009, 20:57
about doing transformers full backup to bd-25, with the algorythm for better quality, and high speed mode for bd-25, it has passed 50 minutes, and it says eta: 2:20, so less than 4 hours to rip a full bluray :D

jdobbs
9th July 2009, 21:06
I get the same error (post 3782) for another disk as well ... when it tries to extract the audio from the main feature. No problems with the audio of the Extras.
I'll now try extracting directly with tsMuxeRGUI to see if I run into the same problem.

Added: No problem with manual audio extraction using tsMuxerGUI.

Added2: I found that it is the subtitle .pgs (PGS_001 German) which causes the problem with BD-RB v0.25.01(beta).
It demuxes fine when doing it manually with tsMuxer Can you look at the .meta file and see what is different?

jdobbs
9th July 2009, 21:11
try encode wvc1 and m2ts is blank video ....why ???????? is not possible to fix wvc1 encoding ... wvc1 is from another planet???????????????/ There is no known directshow codec for the PC that decodes VC-1 that is field-based interlaced. I would assume that's what you're dicussing.

jdobbs
9th July 2009, 21:13
yes, guess I will have to spring for new player. A good choice would be a Sony BDP S360... it handles all formats, is inexpensive, and is profile 2.0 compatible. JMHO

(I just got one to replace my old BDP S301 which didn't handle BD-Live or PiP)

DIVX2009
9th July 2009, 21:50
ok but i encode wvc1 whit ripbot264 and i have no problem ...but i need full backup..

jdobbs
9th July 2009, 22:25
ok but i encode wvc1 whit ripbot264 and i have no problem ...but i need full backup.. You can encode VC-1 through BD-RB also -- just not those rare streams that are field based. I'd be surprised if that problem M2TS could be backed up with RipBot either, unless it happened to be frame-served through Neuron2's software.

If you back-up to BD-25, the track will be copied instead of blanked and it will be present on the backup. You just can't do that to BD-5/9 because the orignal bitrate is too high.

Sharc
9th July 2009, 22:29
Can you look at the .meta file and see what is different?
.meta from BD-RB:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=deu,mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4353, lang=eng,mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=deu,mplsFile=00001

.meta from tsMuxer:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4354, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4355, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4356, lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=deu

tekmobile
9th July 2009, 22:38
.meta from BD-RB:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=deu,mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4353, lang=eng,mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=deu,mplsFile=00001

.meta from tsMuxer:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4354, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4355, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4356, lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=deu

I see you are trying to downsize to 720p have you tried keeping it at 1080p in BD-RB to see if its the downsizing causing the issue

jdobbs
9th July 2009, 22:48
.meta from BD-RB:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=deu,mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4353, lang=eng,mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=deu,mplsFile=00001

.meta from tsMuxer:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4354, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4355, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4356, lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=deu Hmmm.... I guess it would likely be either the "MPLSFile-00001" reference or the "down-to-dts". I can't imagine why, though.

Sharc
9th July 2009, 22:48
I see you are trying to downsize to 720p have you tried keeping it at 1080p in BD-RB to see if its the downsizing causing the issue
Yep! If I don't downsize the extraction runs smoothly!

chudm
9th July 2009, 22:52
btw guys, vc-1 encoding its pretty slow right? cause last night i did batman begins (vc-1) on high speed bd-25 mode, and im doing transformers (avc) and its pretty fast almost 3 times faster than batman!

Furiousflea
9th July 2009, 23:20
btw guys, vc-1 encoding its pretty slow right? cause last night i did batman begins (vc-1) on high speed bd-25 mode, and im doing transformers (avc) and its pretty fast almost 3 times faster than batman!

You mean decoding. BDRB encodes everything to h264. VC1 decoding *should* be faster...in theory generally speaking.

chudm
9th July 2009, 23:28
yeap right, decoding :), for me its pretty slow though, avc and mpg2 blurays when are being encoded in BD RB are very fast (0.9-1.1x) but when the source its vc-1 the encoding goes down to 0.3-4.5x

chudm
10th July 2009, 00:19
tested transformers and looks great! :D only 3 hours and 45 minutes in full backup mode :D thx jdobbs!

chudm
10th July 2009, 02:00
hey guys, had some problems with new beta, after 2 great bd-r rips! was trying to do kung fu panda, again, with bd-25 high speed option, algorythm for better quality, and after 3% had some problems with x264.exe, then a message came saying x264.exe stopped working, dont know why its happening this though, any suggestions?

when tried to do this:

[20:30:56] Reencoding: VID_00021 (22 of 54)

the fps went to 0, and it freezes

jdobbs
10th July 2009, 03:31
Have you upgraded your version of X264? If so, that is the issue. The new version of X264 crashes with BD-RB because they have removed some of the command line parameters that are used.

I have modified the next release of BD-RB to be compatible with X264 r1179... but don't try using this new release with any current versions of BD-RB.

chudm
10th July 2009, 03:34
i updated the ffdshow, but like 1 hour ago, unistalled and installed again the one at the first page and its working good again :)

jdobbs
10th July 2009, 03:34
Yep! If I don't downsize the extraction runs smoothly! Hmmm... I wonder what that could mean? The 720 resize has always worked before.

jdobbs
10th July 2009, 03:35
i updated the ffdshow, but like 1 hour ago, unistalled and installed again the one at the first page and its working good again :)As I've said before, please use the versions of software included with BD-RB or recommended/linked on the first page of this thread for any beta testing. Upgrading to the latest seems cool sometimes -- but staying with a version that is proven reliable is cool too.

[Edit] Wow. 11,000 posts exactly when typed this. I obviously have too much time on my hands.

chudm
10th July 2009, 03:42
yeah my bad!:( at least its working good now, but transformers and batman begins worked perfect, only with this kung fu panda appeared that error

jdobbs
10th July 2009, 04:56
I've been experimenting and I think I've come up with a much better CRF prediction algorithm for one-pass encoding. Hopefully I'll get it more accurate by this weekend. I've also finished working on the DD+ PiP audio and it now works (I tested it on "The Matrix").

chudm
10th July 2009, 05:18
I've been experimenting and I think I've come up with a much better CRF prediction algorithm for one-pass encoding. Hopefully I'll get it more accurate by this weekend. I've also finished working on the DD+ PiP audio and it now works (I tested it on "The Matrix").

so, no more problems with pip? in the next release we will get pip always working? :o

or there are others audio for pip? (im not sure sorry :p)

GaPony
10th July 2009, 05:34
Nothing is 100% bulletproof... Nothing will "always work", especially when its still in beta. :)

chudm
10th July 2009, 05:40
yeah yeah i know :) but i mean... what audio does the pip uses? only dd? and thats the one that wasnt working right? so it should work now almost every pip movie with all the stuff of the bluray? :) thats what i meant

chudm
10th July 2009, 05:51
hey guys a friend have an lg bh200, does anyone knows if can read bd-r :)?

GaPony
10th July 2009, 06:06
hey guys a friend have an lg bh200, does anyone knows if can read bd-r :)?

Thats a question for this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

chudm
10th July 2009, 06:10
Thats a question for this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

thx man :goodpost: :), but thats only for bd5/bd9 i was wondering about full backup on bd-r :)

chudm
10th July 2009, 06:18
sorry for the offstopic! i found it on google, (April 08) firmware version # BH02080402F reads bd-r, but firmware from june 08 doesnt allow the player to read bd-r :p

saphire199
10th July 2009, 06:18
Tried to do death race again with new beta (25.01) Got this error on clip 59:
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.

Never seen this before, so don't know what to do with it.

saphire199

chudm
10th July 2009, 06:20
Tried to do death race again with new beta (25.01) Got this error on clip 59:
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.

Never seen this before, so don't know what to do with it.

saphire199

me neither! and i was thinking to do a backup of death race tomorrow :p, im hoping mine works

GaPony
10th July 2009, 06:27
Congratulation jdobbs!

I tried the Fast Encode option for DOGMA (42gb). The High Quality setting to BD25 took aprox 4.5 hrs and the Fast Encode setting took 2hrs 2min. The final size was 21.6gb, so the undersize wasn't very much. The quality difference between the two copies is virtually none and everything works for both copies.

I won't waste space posting the log unless you want to see it.

Thanks for an excellant addition!

Sharc
10th July 2009, 06:34
Hmmm... I wonder what that could mean? The 720 resize has always worked before.
Yes, the 720 downsize worked here as well before.

Anyway, here the results of the 1-pass encode (skipping the sups):
- Target size BD-9 (DVD-9) / Full Backup / 720p resize / 2 x ac3 audio / no subs
=> Disk filled to 69% (undersize)
=> crf of main feature = 22.05. So despite the undersize the quality is still good .... very good.
=> crf estimation took 20 minutes which represents a considerable time saving compared to a say 2 hours 1st pass of a standard 2-pass encode

jdobbs
10th July 2009, 14:08
yeah yeah i know :) but i mean... what audio does the pip uses? only dd? and thats the one that wasnt working right? so it should work now almost every pip movie with all the stuff of the bluray? :) thats what i meant PiP (secondary audio) also uses a special type of DTS HD, which is not currently supported by BD-RB because TSMUXER cannot mux it.

Furiousflea
10th July 2009, 14:19
PiP also uses DTS Express, which is not currently supported by BD-RB, because TSMUXER cannot mux it.

Yep, and most PiP audio tracks are DTS Express. Of my 30 or so blurays with PiP only around 5-6 are AC3+. So he might be waiting abit longer ;)

chudm
10th July 2009, 14:32
ohhh i see, i didnt know that guys, thx for the info :)

dianasta
10th July 2009, 17:04
Hello,

I'm a new member and thanks for this great program keep the good work going :).

I did the HELLBOY2 with no errors. I use PowerDVD8 and the menu is fine. When I hit play it goes throught the fbi warning and then the PG13 screen, some other screen and then is blank nothing it just stays there.

Any ideas what this could be?

Regards.

chudm
10th July 2009, 17:14
Hello,

I'm a new member and thanks for this great program keep the good work going :).

I did the HELLBOY2 with no errors. I use PowerDVD8 and the menu is fine. When I hit play it goes throught the fbi warning and then the PG13 screen, some other screen and then is blank nothing it just stays there.

Any ideas what this could be?

Regards.
welcome dianasta :), what version of bd-rb did you used? was full backup to bd5? bd9? or bd25?

dianasta
10th July 2009, 17:19
welcome dianasta :), what version of bd-rb did you used? was full backup to bd5? bd9? or bd25?

It was a full backup bd25 and the same issue was with the following bd-rb versions 2401, 2402, 2501

Thanks.

tekmobile
10th July 2009, 17:30
It was a full backup bd25 and the same issue was with the following bd-rb versions 2401, 2402, 2501

Thanks.

0.24.01 had a major bug that would cause something like this but it was promptly fixed in 0.24.02 onwards.

Have you tried a fresh encode with the latest version by this I mean from the start without resuming from a previous version

DarknessUK
10th July 2009, 17:41
Trying to do the Dr Who BR and get following:

[12:39:16] BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_PLANETOFTHEDEAD
- Input BD size: 29.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:09:28.859]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Was doing down to 25 gig size, any thoughts???

dianasta
10th July 2009, 19:15
0.24.01 had a major bug that would cause something like this but it was promptly fixed in 0.24.02 onwards.

Have you tried a fresh encode with the latest version by this I mean from the start without resuming from a previous version

Hi,
Yes I did many times the same issue.

drmih
10th July 2009, 19:35
Trying to do the Dr Who BR and get following:

[12:39:16] BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_PLANETOFTHEDEAD
- Input BD size: 29.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:09:28.859]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Was doing down to 25 gig size, any thoughts???

If the original was under 30 Gb and you're perhaps dropping a language or re-encoding one, then it'll just about fit on a bd-r. Is there any reason why your resizing?

chudm
10th July 2009, 19:36
Tried to do death race again with new beta (25.01) Got this error on clip 59:
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.

Never seen this before, so don't know what to do with it.

saphire199

hey man im doing death race too, and im at 41% done, and look at the clip u had problems:

[13:48:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00293]
- [13:48:56] Reencoding: VID_00293 (59 of 72)
- [13:51:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00289]
- [13:52:15] Reencoding: VID_00289 (60 of 72)
- [13:55:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00288]
- [13:55:44] Reencoding: VID_00288 (61 of 72)

isoss
10th July 2009, 20:42
hoi jdobbs

can you tel me when wil you post de new version of this great program

bud i have still a problem with the films Death Race and the day the earth stood still the menu wil play fine bud de movie wil not play at all it gives al black screen.
do you have a handle on that problem?

Capsbackup
10th July 2009, 20:55
@dianasta;
I have backed up the Region A, NTSC version of this movie as well as a few others that experienced the same thing with PowerDVD. However, after burning to BD-RE and testing on my stand alone Sony BDP-BX1, all have played back perfectly. So I believe it is a software/PowerDVD issue and not a BD-RB bug. So, unfortunately, if your only playback is thru the PC, your out of luck. However, if you have a stand alone, try burning to BD-RE and test that method.

chudm
10th July 2009, 20:57
man im doing death race, ill give a test on my ps3 later tonight, but i think it should be fine!

chudm
10th July 2009, 21:02
@dianasta;
I have backed up the Region A, NTSC version of this movie as well as a few others that experienced the same thing with PowerDVD. However, after burning to BD-RE and testing on my stand alone Sony BDP-BX1, all have played back perfectly. So I believe it is a software/PowerDVD issue and not a BD-RB bug. So, unfortunately, if your only playback is thru the PC, your out of luck. However, if you have a stand alone, try burning to BD-RE and test that method.

or play it with totalmedia theater 3 (it can plays avchd and blurays from hard disc too!) all the bd-rs i had burned works perfect on my pc with that piece of software... but some of those bd-rs (like the foo fighters one, refused to play ok on my ps3)

chudm
10th July 2009, 21:03
hoi jdobbs

can you tel me when wil you post de new version of this great program

bud i have still a problem with the films Death Race and the day the earth stood still the menu wil play fine bud de movie wil not play at all it gives al black screen.
do you have a handle on that problem?

with what version was that? v25.01?

setarip_old
10th July 2009, 21:13
@dianasta

Hi!

Perhaps a little patience is required ;>}

I've found that with SOME full backups on disc, it can take PowerDVD (I use v.7.3 with NO updates)as long as three minutes to get past the point you've described.