BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[worknstiff]

Thanks jdobbs, I must have forgotten that option. This is activated using alternate output to MKV right?

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs, I must have forgotten that option. This is activated using alternate output to MKV right?Yes it is. Remember, only forced subtitles are hard encoded, so make sure your force them on.

[jdobbs]

In case of selecting mkv container as the output, even if I "turn on" a subtitle stream in the stream tab by using the right mouse button, after finishing the project media info tells this stream is not forced, but normal.Make sure you force it on just before encoding. The setting is not persistent, and other changes or closing/opening BD-RB can reset it.

[AmigaFuture]

Anybody else experiencing issues with e-mail delivery of notifications related to new posts? Until today I don't think I've gotten any in over a week at least -- even though there have been plenty of posts.

I've noticed some problems with it. Like Lathe, if I don't post for a bit or don't login to read some then notifications stop. I usually keep a Firefox Tab for when it's running or Saved when exited which reloads to where I left it.
But that won't always cause new replies to send a notification.

[AmigaFuture]

@Lathe
First it a small g
Second, please accept this in the spirit it was meant,

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/6cbb/qpcja15zbq59vr94g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/qpcja15zbq59vr9/ddba2303e981a96dc0c79ba8fc320af5.jpg)

That's a cute money! Looks like Gene Simmons after "eating" a very...ummmmm, unclean place with that tongue of his. With a Capital "G" and "S". ;-)

[MrVideo]

That's a cute money!
Strangest money I've ever seen. :scared:

[Lathe]

Strangest money I've ever seen. :scared:

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh.gif

You sharp-eyed B@stard, I missed that!

[gonca]

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/laugh.gif

You sharp-eyed B@stard, I missed that!
We'll type bigger next time

[Lathe]

We'll type bigger next time

Well... you know what they say...

The bigger the type, the smaller the...

[varekai]

Well... you know what they say...

The bigger the type, the smaller the...
okeyyy...

[gonca]

Well... you know what they say...

The bigger the type, the smaller the...
The bigger type is just for you, so...

[Lathe]

okeyyy...

Heh heh...

[Lathe]

The bigger type is just for you, so...

Huh uh... good try though... :cool:

[gonca]

Huh uh... good try though... :cool:

We'll just call you tiny Lathe from now on

[Lathe]

We'll just call you tiny Lathe from now on

... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/sigh1.gif

[meadrocks]

I'm trying to do Star Wars A New Hope, HEVC, 1920x1080, Auto-AAC, movie only. It states Failed video encode, aborted. I works just fine on x264 encode.

Here's the output from Inspect.
[07/28/17] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.24
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 316.44GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[07/28/17] Systems Settings Check complete

In workfiles there's a batch file called X265, I assume this is the command thats failing. I have 300 Gig free disk space.

"C:\BD_Rebuilder50.24\tools\avs2yuv.exe" "C:\DVDRIP\A_NEW_HOPE\BDMV\STREAM\00300.m2ts" -o - | "C:\BD_Rebuilder50.24\tools\x265-64.exe" - --preset medium --slow-firstpass --qpfile "C:\T1\WORKFILES\VID_00300.CHP" --keyint 240 --crf 23 --y4m --stats "C:\T1\WORKFILES\00300.m2ts.hevc.stats" --output "C:\T1\WORKFILES\00300.m2ts.hevc"

When I paste this in a shell window I get the following.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\ampl>"C:\BD_Rebuilder50.24\tools\avs2yuv.exe" "C:\DVDRIP\A_NEW_HOPE\BDM
V\STREAM\00300.m2ts" -o - | "C:\BD_Rebuilder50.24\tools\x265-64.exe" - --preset
medium --slow-firstpass --qpfile "C:\T1\WORKFILES\VID_00300.CHP" --keyint 240 --
crf 23 --y4m --stats "C:\T1\WORKFILES\00300.m2ts.hevc.stats" --output "C:\T1\WOR
KFILES\00300.m2ts.hevc"
infile "C:\DVDRIP\A_NEW_HOPE\BDMV\STREAM\00300.m2ts" doesn't look like an avisyn
th script
error: unexpected character "◄"
x265 [error]: unable to open input file <->

C:\Users\ampl>

What else can I give you to help debug this.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Weird. There should be an AVS file that is used for input. Can I see the log?

[meadrocks]

Where is the log file?

Do you mean this info?

[Status]
LABEL=A_NEW_HOPE
VERSION=v0.50.24
SOURCE_SIZE=41562218496
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=41562218496
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.112748700949421
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=33
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00300]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=100000000000000000000000000001
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=91066718

[jdobbs]

No. It's what shows in the window while the job is running. It is also saved in the file BD-REBUILDER.LOG in the working folder. It's a simple text file that can be opened with NOTEPAD.

[meadrocks]

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[07/28/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.24
[21:22:10] Source: A_NEW_HOPE_00800
- Input BD size: 38.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:44.727]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, Auto-AAC
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:22:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:22:10] Processing: VID_00300 (1 of 2)
- [21:22:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00300]
- [21:31:47] Reencoding video [VID_00300]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,522 frames
- [21:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00300, Pass 1 of 1
[21:31:56] - Failed video encode, aborted


Its just a handful of movies that fail, Star Wars 4, 5, 6, John Wick Ch2, Hacksaw Ridge are a few.

[jdobbs]

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[07/28/17] BD Rebuilder v0.50.24
[21:22:10] Source: A_NEW_HOPE_00800
- Input BD size: 38.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:44.727]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, Auto-AAC
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:22:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:22:10] Processing: VID_00300 (1 of 2)
- [21:22:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00300]
- [21:31:47] Reencoding video [VID_00300]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,522 frames
- [21:31:48] Reencoding: VID_00300, Pass 1 of 1
[21:31:56] - Failed video encode, aborted


Its just a handful of movies that fail, Star Wars 4, 5, 6, John Wick Ch2, Hacksaw Ridge are a few.Ok. I think I found a way for to occur. I'm guessing the ATCDelta flag was set on the source and it is multi-part -- which makes BD-RB want to work directly with the source rather than through an AVS file. That can't be allowed when using X265 for output (since it needs to use AVS2YUV to feed it). I've put in an exclusion to prevent that from happening for the next release.

[Lathe]

Ok. I think I found a way for to occur. I'm guessing the ATCDelta flag was set on the source -- which makes BD-RB want to work directly with the source rather than through an AVS file. That can't be allowed when using X265 for output (since it needs to use AVS2YUV to feed it). I've put in an exclusion to prevent that from happening for the next release.

Annnnnnnnd... that's why, in my lowly and wretched opinion... just stay with x264. x265 just doesn't seem worth all the trouble... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gif

[jdobbs]

Annnnnnnnd... that's why, in my lowly and wretched opinion... just stay with x264. x265 just doesn't seem worth all the trouble... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/no.gifIf you're trying to encode at very low bitrates, you're kinda' have to go HEVC. But... based on my quality/size testing, at higher bitrates you have to have close to the same file size in both X264 and X265 to keep the same SSIM.

[Lathe]

If you're trying to encode at very low bitrates, you're kinda' have to go HEVC. But... based on my quality/size testing, at higher bitrates you have to have close to the same file size in both X264 and X265 to keep the same SSIM.

Yeah, makes sense...

[worknstiff]

Re: at higher bitrates you have to have close to the same file size in both X264 and X265.
Wonder why all the 4K stuff is H.265 then if there is no optimization of the file sizes. Does H.265 only show huge gains when you are using higher resolutions?

[gonca]

Re: at higher bitrates you have to have close to the same file size in both X264 and X265.
Wonder why all the 4K stuff is H.265 then if there is no optimization of the file sizes. Does H.265 only show huge gains when you are using higher resolutions?

HEVC is designed for 4K resolution, that is where it "shines"
At lower resolutions YMMV

[worknstiff]

I have to say except for a few instances looking at the big box stores HUGE 70" and above displays I have been under-whelmed with much of an improvement in detail, unless you get really CLOSE. Yes I see the improvement in the color, and contrast but so many movies now are so color graded and filmed in available light with digital cameras that all the "detail" is lost anyway. Then throw in the fact that there is no 3D, no way to BD Rebuilder or even playback on your PC and I'm ready to sit this round of upgrading out, at least for the moment.

[jdobbs]

I have to say except for a few instances looking at the big box stores HUGE 70" and above displays I have been under-whelmed with much of an improvement in detail, unless you get really CLOSE. Yes I see the improvement in the color, and contrast but so many movies now are so color graded and filmed in available light with digital cameras that all the "detail" is lost anyway. Then throw in the fact that there is no 3D, no way to BD Rebuilder or even playback on your PC and I'm ready to sit this round of upgrading out, at least for the moment.Yeah. I'm kinda' in that boat too. I read a really good article recently. The article points out that at normal viewing distance, most (maybe all) people can't distinguish a difference between UHD and 1080p. There is a point where you are paying for something new, without actually getting any measurable benefit. I'm not rich enough to do that. Maybe if I had a 100" screen... but I'm still at 65".

[meadrocks]

I'm still using a 60" Pioneer plasma TV, the new 4K LCDs don't look any better to my 50 year old eyes. I'm really looking forward to HDR and the increased color space, once media is available I can see upgrading.

[Lathe]

I'm still at 65".

Wow, you still look pretty good for your age...

[lauguru]

Someone knows how to use it in TWEAK_X265= to put in ARCHIVE MODE: main 10, level 5.1, bt.2020 ??? For use [V: hevc main 10, yuv420p10le ]
TWEAK_X265=--output-depth 10 --profile main10 --tune grain

[MrVideo]

Yes I see the improvement in the color, and contrast but so many movies now are so color graded and filmed in available light with digital cameras that all the "detail" is lost anyway.
Something wrong with using available sun light when outside? Besides, you can't "film" with digital cameras. I've never found a way to put film in them. :D In any event, how can detail be lost? Most studios use the Red 5K, or even 8K, cameras. They are specifically designed for "shooting" (not "filming") movies.

Other than HDR modes for 4K displays, it is indeed hard to tell the difference between 2K and 4K, until you get into displays that are larger than 100". Specifically home theaters with larger screens using projectors.

I'll have to win PowerBall before I'll be able to build a new home with a built-in theater, using a professional 4K theater projector (with 3D :D ).

[Lathe]

Something wrong with using available sun light when outside? Besides, you can't "film" with digital cameras. I've never found a way to put film in them. :D In any event, how can detail be lost? Most studios use the Red 5K, or even 8K, cameras. They are specifically designed for "shooting" (not "filming") movies.

Yeah, some 'grain lovers' are so attached to their 'natural grain', that they forget that that is mostly a BYGONE product of using film. I understand and I too appreciate older films with inherent grain that comes with the filming process, and in some cases it can kind of enhance the viewing experience depending on the content. BUT... these sometimes narrow mindedly passionate grain devotees must remember that grain, which has been with us for so many decades is a chance BYPRODUCT of the medium. So, now that movies are using more digital cameras, unless the intermediate is manipulated, you are just simply not going to see that much grain in 'films' these days, which is what bloody REAL LIFE looks like! That has absolutely NOTHING to do with retained 'detail' The only point that I personally feel that these people have is when it is AGGRESSIVELY wiped away taking some of the actual detail with it. But, to say that since they are mostly using digital cameras, and thus there is 'no detail anyway'... well, I don't think I really need to finish that sentence, do I... :cool:

[worknstiff]

@ MrVideo RE: Something wrong with using available sun light when outside? Besides, you can't "film" with digital cameras. I've never found a way to put film in them. :D In any event, how can detail be lost?

No I think good old sunlight is the way to go but I was specifically talking about all the films (IE: I meant that in a general way not literally "filmed" with film.) that want to use something like candle light when shooting a scene. I REALLY hate the strobing effect and the lack of any detail. Don't even get me started with the shaky cam cuts using what appears to be a low resolution handicam. I am also pissed when I watch something like Lost City of Z and the color grading has robbed even most of the "probably" gorgeous outdoor shots of the amazon into a green washed out mess. Then all the interior shots were so low light there wasn't a lot of details of what was some probably pretty good looking set pieces. I get they the director and photographer were going for a "French painter Claude Lorrain was an aesthetic influence on the film's design. Khondji said he purposely designed mythical images of skies that Lorrain may have painted that are filled with gold, red, and blue (or a combination of them) effect BUT what about giving me a decent looking film anyway. I even played with the color and contrast gamma setting trying to better be able to see the movie. I wish everything would just look like it was supposed to look instead of being so artsy fartsy.

[MrVideo]

I wish everything would just look like it was supposed to look instead of being so artsy fartsy.
You very well know that it is a director's choice as to how the final presentation will look on the screen.

As for strobing, again that it up to the director and the director of photography as to what shutter speed will be used. You can get a strobe effect with film cameras as well. Again, by setting the shutter speed.

[Lathe]

@ MrVideo RE: Something wrong with using available sun light when outside? Besides, you can't "film" with digital cameras. I've never found a way to put film in them. :D In any event, how can detail be lost?

No I think good old sunlight is the way to go but I was specifically talking about all the films (IE: I meant that in a general way not literally "filmed" with film.) that want to use something like candle light when shooting a scene. I REALLY hate the strobing effect and the lack of any detail. Don't even get me started with the shaky cam cuts using what appears to be a low resolution handicam. I am also pissed when I watch something like Lost City of Z and the color grading has robbed even most of the "probably" gorgeous outdoor shots of the amazon into a green washed out mess. Then all the interior shots were so low light there wasn't a lot of details of what was some probably pretty good looking set pieces. I get they the director and photographer were going for a "French painter Claude Lorrain was an aesthetic influence on the film's design. Khondji said he purposely designed mythical images of skies that Lorrain may have painted that are filled with gold, red, and blue (or a combination of them) effect BUT what about giving me a decent looking film anyway. I even played with the color and contrast gamma setting trying to better be able to see the movie. I wish everything would just look like it was supposed to look instead of being so artsy fartsy.

I feel you on this one... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/thumbsup.gif

Now, Mr. Video... we all KNOW that the director, etc., can do anything they want. C'mon Bro, that's kind of stating the obvious... But, when they happen to choose to do something with the aesthetics that a person really doesn't like, well, that is what the fellow above is talking about.

For example, the 'nice' Dutch fellow who gave us 'THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE' clearly chose to portray what some of us would find quite disgusting. So, just blindly saying, 'well, he's the director and can do what he wants', is all good and true. BUT... as the fellow above says, we don't HAVE to like it!

[bryrabknowles]

Running into an issue with 10-bit x264 files (mkvs won't even import, ts files are imported). BD_Rebuilder isn't recognizing them as 10 bit when I try to encode them as Blurays - instead, if the disc size selected is larger than the file I imported, it just remuxes.

[jdobbs]

Running into an issue with 10-bit x264 files (mkvs won't even import, ts files are imported). BD_Rebuilder isn't recognizing them as 10 bit when I try to encode them as Blurays - instead, if the disc size selected is larger than the file I imported, it just remuxes.The HD blu-ray standard doesn't support 10 bit. A quote from an example article (http://www.techhive.com/article/171223/10_bit_color.html) (there are lots you can find with a search): Neither broadcast HDTV nor Blu-ray support deep color. If a studio released a movie on Blu-ray with 10-bit color, that disc wouldn't work on any existing player. That changes with UHD blu-ray (which isn't currently supported by BD-RB or its supporting software).

[MrVideo]

BUT... as the fellow above says, we don't HAVE to like it!
True, you can easily dislike the result. You can also not bother going to a movie presentation from a director that you know produces product that you do not like.

You can also go on IMDB and write a negative review.

[bryrabknowles]

The HD blu-ray standard doesn't support 10 bit. A quote from an example article (http://www.techhive.com/article/171223/10_bit_color.html) (there are lots you can find with a search): That changes with UHD blu-ray (which isn't currently supported by BD-RB or its supporting software).

I think i may have said it wrong

I know that 10 bit isn't supported for bluray.

What I am trying to do is convert a 10-bit mkv (or .ts) to an 8- bit bluray.

BDRB recognizes the file as AVC encoded. The file is 9.22 GB, Hi10P Level 5.0

When setting BDRB to fit a BD25, the program chooses to keep the original video (even though it isn't BD-Compliant).

[Chuckwagon]

I think i may have said it wrong

I know that 10 bit isn't supported for bluray.

What I am trying to do is convert a 10-bit mkv (or .ts) to an 8- bit bluray.

BDRB recognizes the file as AVC encoded. The file is 9.22 GB, Hi10P Level 5.0

When setting BDRB to fit a BD25, the program chooses to keep the original video (even though it isn't BD-Compliant).

Will this option help? (From the Hiddenopts file)

FORCE_ENCODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1, BD-RB will never check to see if original video will fit

[zorro101]

Hi

I have found a problem with import function (to make blu-ray autoring)
if I import mkv (but i also try many file with .m2ts .ts) with resolution of 1280x720p with 25fps, BDrebuilder trasnform this to 23,976

I have try to use files at 1920x1080p 25fps and it work properly

this is a big problem because lose audio sync

please, can you help me?
thanks
best regards

[MrVideo]

I have found a problem with import function (to make blu-ray autoring)
if I import mkv (but i also try many file with .m2ts .ts) with resolution of 1280x720p with 25fps, BDrebuilder trasnform this to 23,976
720p @ 25fps is not a supported BD format. 720p @ 50fps is.
I have try to use files at 1920x1080p 25fps and it work properly
It shouldn't have, as 1080p @ 25fps is not supported. 1080i @ 25fps is.

[jdobbs]

720p @ 25fps is not a supported BD format. 720p @ 50fps is.

It shouldn't have, as 1080p @ 25fps is not supported. 1080i @ 25fps is.BD-RB has an option to automatically convert PAL frame rates to NTSC frame rates (please forego the "they don't exist in the digital world" speech). But... it also adjusts the audio.

I'm away from my office right now for a week, but I'll do some tests to see if I can repeat the issue when I return.

[Lathe]

BD-RB has an option to automatically convert PAL frame rates to NTSC frame rates (please forego the "they don't exist in the digital world" speech)


Don't worry boss... I'm ready if Mr. Video tries anything... http://lathe-of-heaven.com/club.gif

[zorro101]

BD-RB has an option to automatically convert PAL frame rates to NTSC frame rates (please forego the "they don't exist in the digital world" speech). But... it also adjusts the audio.

i have found the hiddenoptions "IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM" but not make change on audio. the sync is always present! :(

There is another simple way to make the sync? I have also the subtitles on my mkv! :(:(

@MrVideo
What you say is correct:
on the blu-ray associations are not present 1280x720 25p but also not present 1980x1080 25p.
but i have many blu-ray working properly with 1920x1080 25p.

thanks

[zorro101]

Hi

I have try to make blu-ray using tsremux (using blu-ray filder option) and this create blu-ray 720p 25fps that work properly. (I have burned this to bd-re and play correct on blu-ray player and ps3)

after this I have used bdrebuilder to import BD(s) function and the result is perfect 720 25p blu-ray working

now the "problem" is
i need to make blu-ray whith many episode and many season and this is very complicate to make this process.

there is a possibility of "fix" bd rebuilder, with Calm of course?
thanks again

[jdobbs]

Hi

I have try to make blu-ray using tsremux (using blu-ray filder option) and this create blu-ray 720p 25fps that work properly. (I have burned this to bd-re and play correct on blu-ray player and ps3)

after this I have used bdrebuilder to import BD(s) function and the result is perfect 720 25p blu-ray working

now the "problem" is
i need to make blu-ray whith many episode and many season and this is very complicate to make this process.

there is a possibility of "fix" bd rebuilder, with Calm of course?
thanks againAre you attempting to play the pseudo-BD, or did you run a job against it after the import? The audio hasn't been adjusted yet in the pseudo-BD folder.

[zorro101]

Are you attempting to play the pseudo-BD, or did you run a job against it after the import? The audio hasn't been adjusted yet in the pseudo-BD folder.

I did not understand the question (i dont know pseudo-bd)

I use bdrebuider file-> import function for make "authoring" blu-ray (i need to create blu ray for season series)

i dont know why bdrebuilder import have different behavior
1) file-> import-> mkv,m2ts,etc 1280x720 25p -> audio sync loss (because bdrb change fps to 23.976)
2) if I put mkv into tsremux and make "bluray folder" and after i use bdre -> file-> import-> BD(s) -> work properly (without change fps)

thanks

[MrVideo]

please forego the "they don't exist in the digital world" speech
I don't have to, you just did. You can lead a horse to water....

BTW, 23.976 fps was never an analog NTSC frame rate.