BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Ch3vr0n]

39.06 works just as fine as 39.04 here. Finished an encode with 39.06 a couple days back and running another one now. No aften.exe errors (yet)

[DVDIT]

Did a "movie and menu only" back up of the movie "The_help" and and it works like a charm. Many thanks for the great work you do jdobbs. Your work is really invaluable. More donation your way after the holidays.

[Sharc]

In few cases I got a problem with 1-pass crf prediction:
Script: SelectRangeEvery(4800,48,4000)
The problem is that the test clip takes the same first 48 frames of the movie repeatedly, i.e. there is no advancement to the next group of frames. Consequently the crf prediction is totally skewed.
I did not find a systematic pattern as to when this happens. Just to mention that the last source was a 1080i/25 (MBAFF) which I resized to 720p/50 (BD-RB applies frame duplication for BD compliance). Not sure if this format triggers the problem.

[gamete]

hi i'm using xp and seven64bit

in xp how to set VC1 and MPEG2 ? libavcodec wm9 off(vc1) libavcodec, libmpeg2, off(mpeg2)

in seven64bit how to set VC1 and MPEG2 ? libavcodec wm9 off(vc1) libavcodec, libmpeg2, off(mpeg2)


thanks:o

[Ch3vr0n]

Its all in the first post

1. Download and install FFDSHOW and the Haali Matroska Splitter. They are required for BD-RB to work and are free. After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".

8. Setup VC-1 decoding in the same way you did MPEG-2 in step one. For Vista or Windows 7 using "Video Decoder Configuration" -- select "wmv9". Recommended for Windows XP only (but not required): Download and install WMV11 from Microsoft, and set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW (allowing the WMV11 codec to be used instead).

[jdobbs]

hi i'm using xp and seven64bit

in xp how to set VC1 and MPEG2 ? libavcodec wm9 off(vc1) libavcodec, libmpeg2, off(mpeg2)

in seven64bit how to set VC1 and MPEG2 ? libavcodec wm9 off(vc1) libavcodec, libmpeg2, off(mpeg2)


thanks:o For MPEG-2 both settings seem to work equally well. Just don't leave it disabled.

[gamete]

thanks

[Glarioo]

This is a great tool, just like DVD Rebuilder (is) was.
I've been using BD Rebuilder since september now without any problem.
I do "movie only" back-ups (i live in the R2 zone) all the time. Except for 'The Speed Of Life", thas was a full back-up.
All played properly on a TViX S1 mediaplayer.
To jdobbs: THANK YOU! I made a donation a few days ago.
Look at the attachment for the log-file.

[Wizzu]

Hello,

I'm trying to get the hang of BDRebuilder...

So far I've been able to re-econde a movie (Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets) to a BD-25, but to succeed, I had to check "Do not reencode AC3" to get rid of the AFTEN errors.

Now I try to encode the same movie to BD-5, and here is what I get:

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[17:04:44] BD Rebuilder v0.39.06 (beta)
- Source: HARRY_POTTER_2
- Input BD size: 26,24 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:40:56.188]
- Target BD size: 4,36 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:04:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:04:46] Processing: VID_00037 (1 of 1)
- [17:04:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00037]
- [17:38:18] Reencoding video [VID_00037]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 231.517 frames
- Bitrate: 2.809 Kbs
- [17:38:18] Reencoding: VID_00037, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.39.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.11.96.14, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
[17:38:34] - Failed video encode, aborted

I've tried various settings without success... :confused:

Any ideas? :thanks:

[Ch3vr0n]

you say aften errors, afaik aften.exe was swapped for a different one in 39.05. Try using 39.06 with the aften.exe from 39.04

[Wizzu]

you say aften errors, afaik aften.exe was swapped for a different one in 39.05. Try using 39.06 with the aften.exe from 39.04

Thanks for the reply, but my issue is not with aften anymore. ;-) as I stated, I found a workaround for the aften errors when encoding to BD-25.

My current issue is with video encoding, not audio encoding, and it's with encoding to BD-5 (check the log).

Any idea? :thanks:

[Sicilian]

Reposting this message, because of little response.


The first title that had this problem was Fellowship of the Ring. What happens is that at some point the video freezes at a certain frame, but the audio continues. I checked the original video (ripped with AnyDVD), and it plays all the way through without freezing. I have tried full-disc, and movie only encodes, but the video freezes at the same frame every time. I figured it was a bad rip, so I borrowed a friends disc. The video freezes at exactly the same frame!

I have played back the created file with TotalMedia Theater, and other programs on my computer, as well as my Sony bluray player. They all show the same problem.

This has now been happening more frequently. Other titles with the same problem are Skyline, Transformers 3, Thor, Matrix, to a few off hand.

Please help!!!

[AmigaFuture]

Hello,

0.39.06, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, 6GB RAM and Multi-Core.

I have English set for Audio and Subs to keep.
I have the options set to Not Reencode AC3 or DTS and I'm ~currently~ testing Movie Only in DVD-5, and Alternative Movie-Only Output; which is MKV Intact Audio. Other modes are on my To Do list. I was noticing DTS was being ReRendered to AC3 in DVD-5 and Alternative mode until I had a feeling inside..."Checked Keep HD Audio for BD25!" and that stopped the re-rendering to AC3. For Alternative mode neither Subs aren't in the MKV container. After Alternative MKV mode, if I disable (X) the first Multi-Chan and click it states there was a job previously started and asks if I wish it to resume previous job.

I'm currently testing with Toy Story. When I change settings in Setup, I see the rescan happen and the choices for Audio remain selected but the Last English Subtitle (there are 2) is X'd. I have to re-enable it.

I hope this is helpful. Need logs?

[Ch3vr0n]

@amiga: do you have the checkbox ticked under audio/video that sais "limit to one track for each language"? That would explain why the last english subtitle gets removed.

[setarip_old]

Posted by "allright" December 2nd Post#13679: Tried to do the classic disney movie Pinocchio, but I'm getting this error: Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
I could find no meaningful response thus far to this post by "allright'.

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Today, I was making a 25Gb "Full Disc" copy of the FIRST "Cars" (Disney) Blu-ray disc and received the following message after approximately 80% overall completion:

"- [01:06:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00060.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[01:09:19] - Failed to build structure, aborted"

Additional info:

1) 00060.M2TS is the main movie
2) I previously made a succesful "movie-only" backup
3) Each of the two hard drives involved has more than 100Gb free

What does this "pes packet" error message indicate?

[jdobbs]

That's a TSMUXER message. It usually indicates a corrupt source.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version of BD-RB (v0.39.07). Changes for this release:- Corrected and AVS issue related to the use of
true pulldown sources with the "IVTC_480i"
hidden setting.
- Regressed default AFTEN.EXE to that prior to
v0.39.5. This corrects issues on some systems.
- Modified audio encoding so that a second AFTEN
version will be tried before encode failure is
reported -- this is a workaround for certain
incompatibilities in some AFTEN releases on
different computers.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

A minor boo-boo regarding Post#1 link for v.39.07:

"You can download the BD-RB beta from this link:" - SHOWS link as 39.06 although it properly links to 39.07...

[Ch3vr0n]

I see a new menu mode has appeared. What's the difference between "movie & menu's" and "edit mode" besides the obvious clue? Or is it like i think it is

Movie & Menu's (auto blank extra's) = non-double clicked disc title > BDRB decides on its own what gets blanked
Double click disc title = "edit mode gets checked in the menu" > user has full control over what BDRB gets to blank and can unselect streams

** edit ** am i correct in assuming that this is the fix you implemented for that edit flag issue i reported a while back :)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

A minor boo-boo regarding Post#1 link for v.39.07:

"You can download the BD-RB beta from this link:" - SHOWS link as 39.06 although it properly links to 39.07... Whoops. Fixed it.

[jdobbs]

I see a new menu mode has appeared. What's the difference between "movie & menu's" and "edit mode" besides the obvious clue? Or is it like i think it is

Movie & Menu's (auto blank extra's) = non-double clicked disc title > BDRB decides on its own what gets blanked
Double click disc title = "edit mode gets checked in the menu" > user has full control over what BDRB gets to blank and can unselect streams Edit mode is the same thing as double-clicking on the title. As it implies, it enables "edit mode".

The two are independent of each other (as they always have been). So you could select movie-and-menus to automatically blank -- but then restore one of the blanked "extras" using edit mode.

[omegaman7]

Encoded "Black Death 2010" yesterday. The input BD size was 23.8Gb. Output is 22.4Gb. The thing is, the completed Main title(m2ts) is larger than the input. Original is 19.3Gb, output is 20.1Gb. I added "QUICK_CRF=24" in the hopes that it would compress the extras enough, so that there would be no need to encode the main title. Perhaps a 'check' can be adapted into the code, that would recheck before encoding the main title? That way it sees how much space is left after the extras are already encoded ;) There were no extra audio tracks to remove, or I would have gone that route. Oddly, I've had 25Gb+ jobs, that compressed the extras enough(without intervention), and no encoding of the main title.
Is there anything wrong with my replacing the encoded m2ts, with the original? I wouldn't think so.

[Ch3vr0n]

then edit mode is what i've been doing from the start. Manually restoring streams (like the menu issue we talked about a while back that got selected for blanking). Nothing new on that end then just that there's now a menu option too alongside the double clicking method.

[AmigaFuture]

@amiga: do you have the checkbox ticked under audio/video that sais "limit to one track for each language"? That would explain why the last english subtitle gets removed.

I unchecked it before, but I missed that it got checked again when I was trying different settings. I'll test anew.

[alfalaval]

I see a new menu mode has appeared. What's the difference between "movie & menu's" and "edit mode" besides the obvious clue? Or is it like i think it is

Movie & Menu's (auto blank extra's) = non-double clicked disc title > BDRB decides on its own what gets blanked
Double click disc title = "edit mode gets checked in the menu" > user has full control over what BDRB gets to blank and can unselect streams

** edit ** am i correct in assuming that this is the fix you implemented for that edit flag issue i reported a while back :)


where is the new menu mode?? i don't find it ( please help i'm italian and my english is poor)
tnx

[omegaman7]

Mode --> Edit Mode (Manual Blanking).

Mine is greyed, because I'm in movie only backup.

[Ch3vr0n]

where is the new menu mode?? i don't find it ( please help i'm italian and my english is poor)
tnx

it probably won't appear unless you've got the hidden option enabled that enables the test feature for blanking

[omegaman7]

it probably won't appear unless you've got the hidden option enabled that enables the test feature for blanking

You're correct. Oops...

[alfalaval]

how can i enable the hidden option? please help :-(

[sytyguy]

Enable_test=1

[omegaman7]

how can i enable the hidden option? please help :-(

You need to place "ENABLE_TEST=1"(excluding quotes) in the configuration "ini" file, under [options].
THeres a text file within the bd rebuilder folder, called hiddenopts. You'll find more tweaks there, and their explanations ;)

[alfalaval]

oook tnx very very much !!!

[omegaman7]

I put the string in the .ini file and saved. I restarted the program but in mode do not see any new entry. where mistake?

The quotes cannot be in the ini.
"" <--- That's a big no no!

[AmigaFuture]

Subtitles aren't being put into the MKV container for the Alternative Audio Intact. I have "Limit 1 track for each language" unchecked and 2 Subtitles checked. The first Subtitle is even marked as "Turn Subtitle ON". DTS's, AC3's, and Chapters are within the container. I also used CRF.

I'm now trying 2 Pass MB encoding...I don't see that being any different, but eh...I'll be away from the computer for a bit so...Might as well.

[alfalaval]

The quotes cannot be in the ini.
"" <--- That's a big no no!

yes yes all OK...you are great and very nice. tnx from italian user !!

[sonate]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version of BD-RB (v0.39.07). Changes for this release:- Corrected and AVS issue related to the use of
true pulldown sources with the "IVTC_480i"
hidden setting.
- Regressed default AFTEN.EXE to that prior to
v0.39.5. This corrects issues on some systems.
- Modified audio encoding so that a second AFTEN
version will be tried before encode failure is
reported -- this is a workaround for certain
incompatibilities in some AFTEN releases on
different computers.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Works seamlessly. procexp.exe process monitor shows the failure of the first version of aften and then a smooth transition into aften2 requiring no restart or other input. Excellent and many thanks to you.

[jdobbs]

Subtitles aren't being put into the MKV container for the Alternative Audio Intact. I have "Limit 1 track for each language" unchecked and 2 Subtitles checked. The first Subtitle is even marked as "Turn Subtitle ON". DTS's, AC3's, and Chapters are within the container. I also used CRF.

I'm now trying 2 Pass MB encoding...I don't see that being any different, but eh...I'll be away from the computer for a bit so...Might as well. Subtitles aren't added to MKVs because there are virtually no players that can handle .SUP format in an MKV -- and that's pretty much all that BD includes. The only alternative would be to run an OCR against them -- and without human intervention OCR pretty much sucks.

I may add DVD style SUB/IDX subs in the future. But I'm not sure there are many players that can handle that either on an HD source.

[soneca]

The Dune HD players can handle the format .sup in mkv, no need to convert to sub.:)

Nowadays I think most players are compatible with .sub/idx subs.

[jdobbs]

The Dune HD players can handle the format .sup in mkv, no need to convert to sub.:)

Nowadays I think most players are compatible with .sub/idx subs. I'm also using MKVMERGE to do the builds -- and it doesn't accept .SUP -- only SUB/IDX, so I'm still limited.

[Ch3vr0n]

is .SUP the only subtitle format used in mkv's? Cause i've got a couple tv-show mkv's with subs in it. If there's a way to check the type of subs, i'd be happy to check if my player supports em. The panasonic DMP-BD85 isnt the most recent model

[jdobbs]

is .SUP the only subtitle format used in mkv's? Cause i've got a couple tv-show mkv's with subs in it. If there's a way to check the type of subs, i'd be happy to check if my player supports em. The panasonic DMP-BD85 isnt the most recent model No. In fact, I think .SUP is almost non-existent in MKVs. Several places online don't even have .SUP listed as being supported by Matroska at all.

By far the most common subtitles in MKV are text -- which can only be rendered from .SUP by OCR.

You can check the type by opening the MKV in TSMUXER.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Further to my question in Post#13866, could this TSMuxer "pes packet" error have anything to do with the fact that the primary/first audiostream on the "Cars" (NOT "Cars 2") blu-ray disc is an LPCM stream of almost 6GB? If so, what setting do I have to make (or unmake) to downconvert the LPCM stream without affecting other audiostreams (640 5.1 .AC3 and 192 2 channel .AC3)?

**EDIT** I believe the problem arises as the result of an LPCM stream greater than the usual 4Gb limit for .WAV files. The proof in the pudding seems to be rather simple to observe with "Cars". I use tsMuxer to simply demux the almost 6GB LPCM stream - and tsMuxer split it into 2 files, one of approximately 4GB and another of almost 2GB. It's at this point (during the processing of 00060.M2TS) that the "pes" error is generated and BD-RB grinds to a halt.

[AmigaFuture]

@jdobbs

Subtitles aren't added to MKVs because there are virtually no players that can handle .SUP format in an MKV -- and that's pretty much all that BD includes. The only alternative would be to run an OCR against them -- and without human intervention OCR pretty much sucks.

I may add DVD style SUB/IDX subs in the future. But I'm not sure there are many players that can handle that either on an HD source.

MKV does support .SUP as an input. I'm currently using the newest version, but 2 previous versions also accept it. I used Blu-Ray Stream Extractor which does extract SUP files. I then tried importing the SUP files into MKV and it does recognize them. Mostly I'm playing MKV files with VLC and it displays them. My LG BD590 Blu-Ray player doesn't display SUP, yet..and I'm cool with that.

[soneca]

jdobbs,

The ref frames back to the default in this latest version of the BD-Rebuilder?:(
I did an encode now(1280x720) and MediaInfo is showing 3 frames.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs,

The ref frames back to the default in this latest version of the BD-Rebuilder?:(
I did an encode now(1280x720) and MediaInfo is showing 3 frames. There were no changes in that area in this version.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Further to my question in Post#13866, could this TSMuxer "pes packet" error have anything to do with the fact that the primary/first audiostream on the "Cars" (NOT "Cars 2") blu-ray disc is an LPCM stream of almost 6GB? If so, what setting do I have to make (or unmake) to downconvert the LPCM stream without affecting other audiostreams (640 5.1 .AC3 and 192 2 channel .AC3)?

**EDIT** I believe the problem arises as the result of an LPCM stream greater than the usual 4Gb limit for .WAV files. The proof in the pudding seems to be rather simple to observe with "Cars". I use tsMuxer to simply demux the almost 6GB LPCM stream - and tsMuxer split it into 2 files, one of approximately 4GB and another of almost 2GB. It's at this point (during the processing of 00060.M2TS) that the "pes" error is generated and BD-RB grinds to a halt.

I'm sure it's related to the LPCM -- but not the splitting at 4GB boundaries. BD-RB recognizes that TSMUXER splits files at 4GB and handles them appropriately. My guess is that the fact that it is LPCM pushed created an extremely large PES packet -- which exceeded that allowed, and TSMUXER choked on it.

[Edit] Hmm... it might be that TSMUXER ran into the PES packet exactly at the point where the split occurred and it couldn't write it due to the file size limit in the first file. I can't remember whether it's possible -- but there's a chance I may be able to get around that issue (assuming this is the cause) by lowering the file output split point.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

So, if or until this LPCM problem is resolved, what setting does one have to make (or unmake) to downconvert the LPCM stream without affecting other audiostreams (640 5.1 .AC3 and 192 2 channel .AC3)? (I can find no such settings)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

So, if or until this LPCM problem is resolved, what setting does one have to make (or unmake) to downconvert the LPCM stream without affecting other audiostreams (640 5.1 .AC3 and 192 2 channel .AC3)? (I can find no such settings) I assume you were trying to keep the HD audio?

If so, you're probably better just keeping the existing 640Kbs DD5.1 audio and not keeping the LPCM. As I've said before, it is my opinion that HD audio is nothing more than a gimmick anyway.

[Edit] Looking back, though, it was the remuxing that seemed to have the problem... I guess I'll have to do some testing with that disc and see what I can find. I assume there is more than one version of it on blu-ray -- can you give me some information as the exact disc?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

It's a single-disc Blu-ray edition, including all Blu-ray extras (Cine-Explore, Carfinder game), NEW deleted scene, Radiator Springs Featurettes, Movie Showcase, and all original DVD extras (I believe it's the same one you've previously mentioned you use as one of your ongoing test discs).

Just so you know, I have subsequently, with ease, made a 25Gb backup with the LPCM eliminated - as I concur with your sentiment regarding HD Audio wholeheartedly. However, for the purpose of beta testing, I'm sure you'd want to know about this anomaly...

[soneca]

There were no changes in that area in this version.

I formatted my pc and I forgot some settings, my fault.:scared:

If so, you're probably better just keeping the existing 640Kbs DD5.1 audio and not keeping the LPCM. As I've said before, it is my opinion that HD audio is nothing more than a gimmick anyway.

I totally agree.
Recently I upgraded my home theater which is now able to play these new audio formats, I already knew well, and continued dropping 98% of the tracks in HD. When I hear people say that the difference is huge I think I'm going deaf, or most of them have no idea what they're talking about.
Not to mention that such a system average is almost impossible to notice any difference.
Can also be a psychological effect.:D
Sorry for off topic.