BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[mparade]

Look in the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file for MIN_M2TS_SIZE. The only other determining factor would be whether or not the file is determined to be a menu.

Ok, but it is still not clear, sorry. I have a VID with the size of 465 Mbyte for example, and I am in the output mode of BD-5, the program "wants" to reencode it, but if I simply switch to BD-25 mode the program ends up with the VID not located in the list anymore to be reencoded. It is not a menu and the size is above 100Mbyte, so there must be some other determining factor skipped.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent release of BD-RB (v0.45.03). Note: This release has a LOT of changes and new code related to the way importing and Quick-Play reauthoring works. I ask that beta testers please concentrate on these features and post any issues you find. One other note - remember that an import or Quick-Play reauthored disc that only has one item does NOT create a menu, so it will be very much like a movie-only disc. At least two playlists have to match the import criteria (minimum threshold) to be included and invoke the need for a menu.

Changes for this release:- Made major changes to how the Quick-Play
reauthoring mechanism works. Implemented an
interactive menu to the reauthored output.
Now you can browse and select from multiple
titles on Quick-Play reauthored discs. This
feature applies also to all imported titles
(DVD, Videofile, and BD). This feature is
especially useful for combining and
reencoding multiple BD or DVD series discs
into a single BD-25 or BD-50. It is also
nice for creating a disc backup that comes
up-and-running without annoying leader and
sales information.
- Added significant new editing capabilities
associated with Quick-Play menu items. The
features include a dialog for viewing and/or
modifying title information for imports and
Quick-Play reauthored discs.
- Improved the algorithm for finding duplicate
playlists during import of multiple BDs via
Quick-Play reauthoring.
- Changed the MP4BOX temporary folder setting
to use the specified working folder rather
than the system default.
- Made a correction to the code related to
the hidden option FORCED_SUB_LANG. The
option wasn't working as designed in
v0.44.17. Also modified it so you can add
more than one language separated using a
semicolon. The languages are prioritized as
entered from left to right.
- Added a new hidden option REMOVE_IMPORT. If
set, BD-RB will remove the folder used for
import after the reencoding is successfully
completed. As with any auto-removal feature
you should be very careful in its use.
- Added a multiple BD import feature. Similar
to the DVD import function, if multiple BDs
are grouped together under a single selected
source folder, BD-RB gives you the option
of importing them as one (combining with the
Quick-Play reauthoring format). Please note
that the output to the IMPORT folder can be
very large (equal to all the combined source
BD folders).
- Improved the algorithm for determining title
playback order during IMPORT of DVDs or BDs.
- Added BD-50 as a selectable target size in
the OUTPUT OPTIONS menu. This should be of
particular use when creating collections via
the IMPORT functions.
- Removed DVD_IMPORT_THRESHOLD from the hidden
options. It was renamed to IMPORT_THRESHOLD,
now applies to both DVD imports and BD
imports, and is set via dialong.
- Added new option MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND. This
setting is currently experimental to some
degree. When set to "1" (the default) it
will tell BD-RB to attempt to find and
utilize a menu background & audio track from
the source disc when doing an import or
Quick-Play encode. Set via dialog.
- Made "zlib" compression the default for MKV
output to better comply with the Matroska
standard. Also added a new hidden option
"USE_ZLIB" that is documented in the
HIDDENOPTS.TXT file. Setting this option to
"0" disables zlib compression (for the few
players that may not support it).
- Corrected an issue in which an out-of-place
secondary audio stream could cause the PIDs
to be incorrectly updated in the MPLS file
during a full backup.
- Corrected an error in which LPCM sources in
DVDs were not being imported.
- Added code that will shorten the amount of
time used to scan sources on movie-only
backups -- especially in situations where the
number of M2TS files is large.
- Fixed an error that could result in failed
rebuild due to missing .264 file on certain
multipart sources being encoded in movie-only
mode.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to
the latest release (r2377).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE
to the latest release (r2377).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[jdobbs]

I just noticed there is a bug I caused recently in the BD import function that results in "Runtime Error 9, Subscript out of Range" -- ugghhh... after two weeks of testing I cause an error in the last couple of changes.

Anyway, I'll find it, fix it, and post another version in the next hour or so.

[Edit] Ok, it's fixed and has been uploaded -- the first post has also been updated. I've also fixed it so any attempts to download v0.45.02 from the jdobbs site will actually get v0.45.03 as well.

[RobertM]

...a link to the most recent release of BD-RB (v0.45.03). Note: This release has a LOT of changes...

Boy, that looks like it was a lot of work! Thanks, again, JD, for keeping this app going - much appreciated. Without a doubt I'll be making my usual Christmas donation :)

[jdobbs]

Boy, that looks like it was a lot of work! Thanks, again, JD, for keeping this app going - much appreciated. Without a doubt I'll be making my usual Christmas donation :) It was definitely a lot of work. The reauthoring mechanism turned out to be a much bigger project than I anticipated.

I appreciate your support.

[Glarioo]

Two pass doesn't necessarily give better quality -- it just makes sure the output size is predictable. That's important when you have to fit your output on a DVD or BD disc, but not really that important for most MKV applications. It's more accurate to say that 2-pass gives the best quality available at a given average bitrate and CRF gives the most consistent quality level (keeping the Q about the same no matter how complex the picture) but with lots of variability in output size. The max bitrate would make a difference only in the most complex picture elements (assuming it is reasonable) -- and that would apply to both methods.

MKV vbv buffer/maxrate settings will be available in the next release. Be careful, though, you don't want to set the max bitrate too high. I used the 30Mbs value because it can be supported within the limitations of a blu-ray disc (e.g. storing MKVs on a BD-R). You'd likely have to increase resolution beyond 1080p to need more than that.

Is it possible to set vbv buffer/maxrate (2-pass MKV) in v0.45.0.3?
I can't find it the hidden options.

[Darth_Emma]

jdobbs:
FYI... the new version worked great on Monsters U.

Thanks for all the hard work you do.

I am sending a lil something via Paypal right now. Been meaning to do that for quite a while...

[soneca]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent release of BD-RB (v0.45.03).

Thanks!!!:)

[gonca]

Import DVD(s)----Default menu works perfectly. Edited menu seems to hang. Must state that I am using TMT 6 to test. Doing encode with default menu now.

[colinhunt]

Testing multi-disc import in Quick-Play mode right now, and there's one thing I sorely miss: the option of forcing a subtitle track on, as in Movie-only mode. Discs have two English sub tracks on them, with different contents, and I'm guessing FORCED_SUB_LANG option is unable to decide which one to force on.

[jdobbs]

Testing multi-disc import in Quick-Play mode right now, and there's one thing I sorely miss: the option of forcing a subtitle track on, as in Movie-only mode. Discs have two English sub tracks on them, with different contents, and I'm guessing FORCED_SUB_LANG option is unable to decide which one to force on. You should be able to do that after it is imported. Generally you would import, and then do a full backup (since the import has already been reauthored in Quick-Play.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs:
FYI... the new version worked great on Monsters U.

Thanks for all the hard work you do.

I am sending a lil something via Paypal right now. Been meaning to do that for quite a while... Well... it fixed that specific issue -- but it looks like there is some other (protection?) issue with that disc that seems to make the audio float out of sync as you move through the film (at least with the default English track) when backing up in movie-only mode. I'm looking at that one now.

[Snarko]

re: 0.45.03

Looks like UPRESIZE is ignored?

[colinhunt]

You should be able to do that after it is imported. Generally you would import, and then do a full backup (since the import has already been reauthored in Quick-Play.
Could you elaborate a bit? You kinda lost me there :)

[Nico8583]

Thanks for the new release !
I've tried F&F6 but it starts to encode although it's not needed...

[gonca]

Import DVD(s)----Default menu works perfectly. Edited menu seems to hang. Must state that I am using TMT 6 to test. Doing encode with default menu now.

Issues seem to be TMT 6 related, but BD_RB appears okay.

@jdobbs
If you like I will try to find my old sony BD player and test

[mparade]

I have just realized that in the new version of BD-Rebuilder the FULL_3D=n command disappeared. What is the cause of that? Hopefully, I am going to deal with in the future just with Full 3D mkv files....

[mparade]

I have just realized that the number of VIDS in Full Backup Mode to reencode (located in window "stream") depends on the target size the one setup actually. According to my last information the only determining factors if a VID is reencoded or not are the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE" command and if the file is determined as a menu item. But due to some reason it seems to be depending on the target size, also.

[jdobbs]

I have just realized that in the new version of BD-Rebuilder the FULL_3D=n command disappeared. What is the cause of that? Hopefully, I am going to deal with in the future just with Full 3D mkv files....It was actually removed a long time ago because it wasn't needed anymore after the "do not resize" option was added to ALTERNATE encoding. I'd just forgotten to take it out of the text file.

[jdobbs]

Could you elaborate a bit? You kinda lost me there :) Import doesn't reencode. It simply takes the sources and pulls them into a BD format. Generally it only takes a matter of minutes to import (depending on the source size). For example, if I wanted to combine 3 series BDs or DVDs into a single disc, I could put them together in a folder and import the folder. The result would be a single BD structure containing the selected playlists and a menu, BUT that structure could be end up being as much as 150GB in size (3 BDs). AFTER it is imported you can then do a backup of it to shrink it down to your target size. That's when you might decide to force a subtitle.

If it happened that the imported BD structure was small enough to fit -- no problem, you'd still run the full backup, force a subtitle, and BD-RB would recognize that no reencoding was needed, and it would only take minutes.

Import is generally NOT meant to replace reencoding. It's main purpose it to combine multiple sources (BD, DVD, or video files) and/or convert them into a format and structure compatible with a blu-ray player.

I did add the ability to import a single BD. There are certain advantages that are obtained by doing so. For example, a multipart playlist is combined into a single CLPI/M2TS combination during import.

It is possible that some imports might be burned directly from the import folder (assuming it will fit on your target) if the source is DVD(s) or BD(s). For example, you might be able to import 10 single layer DVD movies and store them on a single BD-50 with no need for reencoding or quality loss. Since H.264 is roughly twice as efficient as DVD's MPEG-2, you might theoretically combine 20 DVD movies (single layer) without noticable loss of quality with H.264 reencoding. In testing I've created classic "collection" discs (like the old Sidney Toler Charlie Chan movies) holding several movies.

[jdobbs]

re: 0.45.03

Looks like UPRESIZE is ignored?Nothing changed there from previous versions. I think you may be missing something, but I'd need more information.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the new release !
I've tried F&F6 but it starts to encode although it's not needed... Deciding to not reencode gets a little complicated with multipart sources, because the individual pieces can be referenced in more than one playlist, one or more of the other playlists might require reencoding, making it impossible to choose keeping only one piece intact -- and that was the root of the issue that was the original error. So I had to make the decision to keep a playlist intact a little more restrictive. I'm looking at revamping that entire routine. I'm trying to figure out a way to do it, though, that doesn't increase the scanning time too dramatically. It gets ugly when you have to scan 330 CLPI/M2TS combinations (like Monsters U) to see if each individual piece can be kept intact.

[jdobbs]

Is it possible to set vbv buffer/maxrate (2-pass MKV) in v0.45.0.3?
I can't find it the hidden options. The way you that type of command line change would normally be done is via TWEAK_PASS_ONE and TWEAK_PASS_TWO (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT). But the VBV parameters aren't accepted in those options by BD-RB because they can cause the output to be unusable/unplayable by BD standards. If you add them they are ignored.

I'd forgotten I was going to look into setting a hidden option for that... sorry. What I'll probably do instead is accept the VBV settings if the output is ALTERNATE, but I'll need to look at the implications of that.

[gonca]

10 episode DVD import. Burned to disc. Works perfect.

log
[07:24:57] Importing DVD: NIGHT_STALKER
- Processing DVD title [1 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [2 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [3 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [4 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [5 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [6 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [7 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [8 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [9 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Processing DVD title [10 of 10]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[07:32:03] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[11/10/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.03 (beta)
[07:36:52] Source: NIGHT_STALKER
- Input BD size: 15.27 GB
- Approximate total content: [07:06:13.580]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[07:36:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:36:52] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 10)
- [07:36:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [07:37:38] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 78,522 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,818 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,882 Kbs
- [07:37:38] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:43:22] Video Encode complete
- [07:43:22] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:43:22] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:43:38] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 10)
- [07:43:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:44:23] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,622 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,098 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,958 Kbs
- [07:44:23] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:50:14] Video Encode complete
- [07:50:14] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:50:14] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:50:29] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 10)
- [07:50:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [07:51:14] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,592 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,074 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 7,000 Kbs
- [07:51:14] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:57:02] Video Encode complete
- [07:57:02] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [07:57:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [07:57:17] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 10)
- [07:57:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [07:58:01] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 74,926 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 59,941 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,931 Kbs
- [07:58:01] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:03:35] Video Encode complete
- [08:03:35] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:03:35] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:03:49] Processing: VID_00005 (5 of 10)
- [08:03:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [08:04:34] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 75,136 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 60,109 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 7,028 Kbs
- [08:04:34] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:10:10] Video Encode complete
- [08:10:10] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:10:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:10:25] Processing: VID_00006 (6 of 10)
- [08:10:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [08:11:07] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 76,694 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 61,355 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,590 Kbs
- [08:11:07] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:16:44] Video Encode complete
- [08:16:44] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:16:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:16:59] Processing: VID_00007 (7 of 10)
- [08:16:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [08:17:43] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,682 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,146 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,626 Kbs
- [08:17:43] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:23:23] Video Encode complete
- [08:23:23] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:23:23] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:23:39] Processing: VID_00008 (8 of 10)
- [08:23:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [08:24:19] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 74,326 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 59,461 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,514 Kbs
- [08:24:19] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:29:46] Video Encode complete
- [08:29:46] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:29:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:30:00] Processing: VID_00009 (9 of 10)
- [08:30:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [08:30:42] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 76,284 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 61,027 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,531 Kbs
- [08:30:42] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:36:20] Video Encode complete
- [08:36:20] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:36:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [08:36:35] Processing: VID_00010 (10 of 10)
- [08:36:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [08:37:17] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 77,652 frames
- Convert: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 62,122 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 6,420 Kbs
- [08:37:17] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1
- [08:42:54] Video Encode complete
- [08:42:54] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [08:42:54] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:43:08]PHASE ONE complete
[08:43:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:43:08] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:43:09] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:43:09] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- WORKFILES folder removed.
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.


ini
[Options]
VERSION=0.45.0.3
MULTIPROCESS=1
HC_PROFILE=BEST
DTSX_ENABLE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=0
IMPORT_FOLDER=D:\
KEEP_HD_LPCM=1
DEINTERLACER_TYPE=3
UPRESIZE=LanczosResize
SD_PROGRESSIVE=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=0
REMOVE_IMPORT=0
USE_ZLIB=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
MENU_BACKGROUND=C:\Users\LUIS\Desktop\BD-RBV04503\BD_Rebuilder\misc\menuback.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=15
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=10
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=1
OUTPUT_3D=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=6150
TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=10
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
AUTO_BURN=2
[Paths]
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\dgdecnv\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\dgdecnv\DGDecodeNV.dll
WORKING_PATH=W:\SERIES\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\IMPORTS\NIGHT_STALKER\


Works perfectly on sony 550

[Nico8583]

Deciding to not reencode gets a little complicated with multipart sources, because the individual pieces can be referenced in more than one playlist, one or more of the other playlists might require reencoding, making it impossible to choose keeping only one piece intact -- and that was the root of the issue that was the original error. So I had to make the decision to keep a playlist intact a little more restrictive. I'm looking at revamping that entire routine. I'm trying to figure out a way to do it, though, that doesn't increase the scanning time too dramatically. It gets ugly when you have to scan 330 CLPI/M2TS combinations (like Monsters U) to see if each individual piece can be kept intact.
Thanks ! This is for full backup and/or movie only ?

[Darth_Emma]

I will wait for the next release of BDRB and encode it again. Thanks again.

[colinhunt]

Import doesn't reencode. It simply takes the sources and pulls them into a BD format. Generally it only takes a matter of minutes to import (depending on the source size). For example, if I wanted to combine 3 series BDs or DVDs into a single disc, I could put them together in a folder and import the folder. The result would be a single BD structure containing the selected playlists and a menu, BUT that structure could be end up being as much as 150GB in size (3 BDs). AFTER it is imported you can then do a backup of it to shrink it down to your target size. That's when you might decide to force a subtitle.
Allrighty. I imported 4 anime discs into a single compilation, and opened it in the IMPORTS directory. Stream window lists VIDs 01-04, each has two English subtitle tracks. If I select Full Backup, I can't force either of the two sub tracks. Same thing with Quick-Play Backup. Movie-Only lets me force a sub track, but the backup will contain only one of the four VIDs.

[Glarioo]

For MKV container 1920x1080p 640Kbs DD5.1 (2-pass) vbv bufsize/maxrate is still limited to 15000.

LASTCMD:
C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10372 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "

[laserfan]

Good work jdobbs I re-did Salt using 45.02 and the audio problems appear fixed. It *does* seem as though BD-RB ignores custom sizes though: I set the hiddenopt CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500, and under the Settings>Output Options is checked Custom Target Size ( 23500MB ), but in the BD-REBUILDER.LOG it says " - Target BD size: 22.95 GB" and the final result for me Windows Properties for the output folder shows

Size: 22.1 GB (23,813,710,577 bytes)

though maybe I am misunderstanding the "GB" and "MB" usages and thus the actual bytes of output is correct and to-be-expected? :confused:

[Sharc]

For MKV container 1920x1080p 640Kbs DD5.1 (2-pass) vbv bufsize/maxrate is still limited to 15000.

LASTCMD:
C:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.AVS" --preset slow --bluray-compat --ref 4 --b-adapt 1 --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 10372 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\BD-RB WORK\WORKFILES\VID_00001.CHP" --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 15000 --keyint 48 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 15000 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "
15000 is perfectly right for SD media (BD5 and BD9). With higher values you risk to run into problems (stutter) during playback.
What is your target medium?

[Sharc]

Good work jdobbs I re-did Salt using 45.02 and the audio problems appear fixed. It *does* seem as though BD-RB ignores custom sizes though: I set the hiddenopt CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500, and under the Settings>Output Options is checked Custom Target Size ( 23500MB ), but in the BD-REBUILDER.LOG it says " - Target BD size: 22.95 GB" and the final result for me Windows Properties for the output folder shows

Size: 22.1 GB (23,813,710,577 bytes)

though maybe I am misunderstanding the "GB" and "MB" usages and thus the actual bytes of output is correct and to-be-expected? :confused:
These conversions tend to create confusion.
Strictly, the conversion factor between kB, MB, GB is 1000 while the conversion factor between kiB, MiB, GiB is 1024.
So in fact 23500 MiB = 22.949 GiB which is actually what you get but with the "wrong" (but more familiar) units GB instead of GiB. :devil:

[jdobbs]

Allrighty. I imported 4 anime discs into a single compilation, and opened it in the IMPORTS directory. Stream window lists VIDs 01-04, each has two English subtitle tracks. If I select Full Backup, I can't force either of the two sub tracks. Same thing with Quick-Play Backup. Movie-Only lets me force a sub track, but the backup will contain only one of the four VIDs.Hmmm.... I forgot about that. I'll add the capability to Quick-Play for the next release.

[jdobbs]

Good work jdobbs I re-did Salt using 45.02 and the audio problems appear fixed. It *does* seem as though BD-RB ignores custom sizes though: I set the hiddenopt CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500, and under the Settings>Output Options is checked Custom Target Size ( 23500MB ), but in the BD-REBUILDER.LOG it says " - Target BD size: 22.95 GB" and the final result for me Windows Properties for the output folder shows

Size: 22.1 GB (23,813,710,577 bytes)

though maybe I am misunderstanding the "GB" and "MB" usages and thus the actual bytes of output is correct and to-be-expected? :confused: Yes. (22.95/1024)=23500.8

[jdobbs]

15000 is perfectly right for SD media (BD5 and BD9). With higher values you risk to run into problems (stutter) during playback.
What is your target medium? He's outputting to an MKV -- so I see his problem.

[jdobbs]

These conversions tend to create confusion.
Strictly, the conversion factor between kB, MB, GB is 1000 while the conversion factor between kiB, MiB, GiB is 1024.
So in fact 23500 MiB = 22.949 GiB which is actually what you get but with the "wrong" (but more familiar) units GB instead of GiB. :devil:In computer terms they are all strictly multiples of an even binary number -- or at least it was when I went to college many years ago (and when I taught college a few years later). So 1KB = 1024 bytes. One megabyte is (1024 * 1024). One gigabyte is (1024 * 1024 * 1024). But hard drive manufacturers did it incorrectly to make is look like it is more than it really is and got all the notation screwed up -- so then people started adding GiB etc to confuse a fairly simple concept. So one true GB is 1,073,741,824 bytes, hexadecimal 0x40000000. In binary it is 1000000000000000000000000000000.

So if you buy 1GB of internal memory you are getting 1,073,741,824 bytes of memory. But if you get a 1GB hard drive it only has 1,000,000,000 bytes. I hate it when the same term means two different things and I refuse to accept it. ;) What good is a standard unit of measure that means two different things or changes definitions with at the drop of a hat?

[laserfan]

Yes. (22.95/1024)=23500.8

Ok, well then I have to ask why you would mix these in the program i.e. I put 23500MB into the CUSTOM as I said, and your Settings reports exactly that, but in the log it's stated another way. It seems to me I might not be the only user that's been confused by this.

I do concur with your long-standing arguments about "why risk over-running the 25,025,314,816 bytes total available" but in this case if you remember I had run it before already, and so thought this time I'd up the ante cuz before I'd left fully two gigabytes on the table vs. this time which was still about 1.2GB left over.

Just sayin' maybe to let the program report consistently so users don't have to second guess these.

[jdobbs]

Ok, well then I have to ask why you would mix these in the program i.e. I put 23500MB into the CUSTOM as I said, and your Settings reports exactly that, but in the log it's stated another way. It seems to me I might not be the only user that's been confused by this.

I do concur with your long-standing arguments about "why risk over-running the 25,025,314,816 bytes total available" but in this case if you remember I had run it before already, and so thought this time I'd up the ante cuz before I'd left fully two gigabytes on the table vs. this time which was still about 1.2GB left over.

Just sayin' maybe to let the program report consistently so users don't have to second guess these.But it is consistent. I report in standard units in both instances. I made it possible to enter it in MB so you can have a greater level of granularity. If someone told you to go a kilometer, would you insist that he call it 1,000 meters instead?

Damn. I sure seem to be in an argumentative mood lately. Maybe I need to switch to decaf.

[Sharc]

He's outputting to an MKV -- so I see his problem.
I see, but wouldn't the 15000 limit nevertheless apply if the .mkv is going to be burnt to a SD disc (single or double layer "DVD") due to limited disk spinning speed? For other media it can be higher of course (40000 IIRC for BD25 or BD50).

[jdobbs]

@Darth_Emma

Do a Quick-Play backup of "Monsters University". It can do the backup with only the movie -- and keep the audio in-sync. Quick-Play keeps the original multi-part structure (it also can keep multiple angles or playlists that use the same pieces without increasing required storage). Right after selecting Quick-Play, click on "Edit Quick Play menu". You'll notice that there are three different versions of the film on the disc. I selected only the first one by itself, but you should be able to keep them all if you want with minimal impact. I'm not sure what the differences are -- maybe language or extended cuts, I didn't look.

Anyway, I ended up with a movie-only backup where everything is in-sync.

In any event, I still need to analyze the source to find why there is something making it different from other multi-part discs in a standard movie-only backup.

[jdobbs]

I see, but wouldn't the 15000 limit nevertheless apply if the .mkv is going to be burnt to a SD disc (single or double layer "DVD") due to limited disk spinning speed? For other media it can be higher of course (40000 IIRC for BD25 or BD50). Maybe, maybe not. If it was going to be played on a standalone player, probably so. But since computer drives can spin at more than the required 1x it may not matter. (added note: Actually I think AVCHD requires 2x if I remember properly -- but the point remains).

Anyway, I said I was going to do it, and I like to think I always keep my word.

[Sharc]

But it is consistent. I report in standard units in both instances. I made it possible to enter it in MB so you can have a greater level of granularity. If someone told you to go a kilometer, would you insist that he call it 1,000 meters instead?
No problem unless someone would insist on 1,024 meters :D

[laserfan]

Damn. I sure seem to be in an argumentative mood lately. Maybe I need to switch to decaf.
Maybe this will put you in a better mood--I just sent you $20 bucks. I do appreciate your work, despite that I don't always understand it...!

I wanna make a joke now about "opening a floodgate" of donations for you, but maybe the timing is wrong for that sensitive subject. It's obvious you sure have put a lot of work into the latest updates, and so my nit is ill-timed. Anyway,

:thanks:

BTW I think maybe you missed my point, which was simply: if I put 23500MB into CUSTOM, then the log should say 23,500MB (or 23.5GB). That's all I was saying; it looks wrong to the un-initiated.

[jdobbs]

No problem unless someone would insist on 1,024 meters :D If it were inside a computer generated virtual world... it would have to be. :)

[AmigaFuture]

So if you buy 1GB of internal memory you are getting 1,073,741,824 bytes of memory. But if you get a 1GB hard drive it only has 1,000,000,000 bytes. I hate it when the same term means two different things and I refuse to accept it. ;) What good is a standard unit of measure that means two different things or changes definitions with at the drop of a hat?

That's awesome and I agree completely.

I'm testing the Quick-Play Menu in the 4 modes with some iPad 2 videos 1080x720. The menus are displaying as they should, and are functioning very well. However, I may have misunderstood something...or..?? I also checked the hidden settings. Is there a switch or setting to set to dis/enable for the menu not to display after each video is played? Excellent for Episode...but perhaps not when you'd like the videos to play sequentially without the menu every time. Like, it's only displayed and interactive if you press the Menu button?

I appreciate the Share of your personal menu system.

[Darth_Emma]

@Darth_Emma

Do a Quick-Play backup of "Monsters University". It can do the backup with only the movie -- and keep the audio in-sync. Quick-Play keeps the original multi-part structure (it also can keep multiple angles or playlists that use the same pieces without increasing required storage). Right after selecting Quick-Play, click on "Edit Quick Play menu". You'll notice that there are three different versions of the film on the disc. I selected only the first one by itself, but you should be able to keep them all if you want with minimal impact. I'm not sure what the differences are -- maybe language or extended cuts, I didn't look.

Anyway, I ended up with a movie-only backup where everything is in-sync.

In any event, I still need to analyze the source to find why there is something making it different from other multi-part discs in a standard movie-only backup.


Thanks, I'll try that.

I am still not sure what to do with my audio settings under the setting/setup menu. I'm going to try it with all of them unchecked.

[mparade]

I have just realized that the number of VIDS in the stream list in Full Backup Mode seems to be hanging on the target size choosen, too. According to my last information the only determining factors if a VID is reencoded or not are the "MIN_M2TS_SIZE" command and if the file is determined as a menu item. But due to some reason it seems to be depending on the target size, also. To check this, while looking at the stream list just switch to another target size and the number of VIDS to reencode will change. (At least with Jack The Giant Slayer BD Disk).

Could you please check what did I wrong?

[montana72]

Differences between the monsters bluray videos is that on-screen texts appear in the selected language.

[gonca]

Multi DVD and BD import, with convert SD to 1080 for both sets, working as expected and the menu is fully functional.

[jdobbs]

That's awesome and I agree completely.

I'm testing the Quick-Play Menu in the 4 modes with some iPad 2 videos 1080x720. The menus are displaying as they should, and are functioning very well. However, I may have misunderstood something...or..?? I also checked the hidden settings. Is there a switch or setting to set to dis/enable for the menu not to display after each video is played? Excellent for Episode...but perhaps not when you'd like the videos to play sequentially without the menu every time. Like, it's only displayed and interactive if you press the Menu button?

I appreciate the Share of your personal menu system.Funny you'd say that. I had originally made it work that way, and then decided to change it so it exited to the menu. I'll add a switch.

[jdobbs]

Differences between the monsters bluray videos is that on-screen texts appear in the selected language.Ahh.. thanks. I figured it was something like that, I just never got around to looking.