BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[setarip_old]

No I haven't tried to do a full movie backup, But i read on another site's forum where someone said they did just the main movie with BDrebuilder and had no problems. Once again:

If I remember correctly, if you want to do a "Movie-only" of this disc, you have to first remove what appears to be a secondary video from 00023.m2ts. Try it.

Try doing a "FULL DISC" copy using the same rip

[busch42]

Thanks setarip_old, I'm getting to that, I just tried to do a full movie and got to 44.60%, That's as far as I ever got, I'm getting closer LOL. What program or how do you remove the secondary video from the first?

[setarip_old]

What program or how do you remove the secondary video from the first? (For "movie-only) you can use tsMuxeR.

1) Create a folder named "Movie_Only_Test" (or anything else you may prefer)

2) Load 00023.m2ts into tsMuxeR.

3)UNcheck the 720x480 video (tsMuxeR will have already eliminated the related DTSExpress audio)

4) Select "Blu-ray disc" from the tabs at the BOTTOM of the tsMuxeR window

5) Browse to "Movie_Only_Test"

6) Click on "Start muxing"

7) If successful, load the "Movie_Only_Test" into BD Rebuilder and process as a "movie only".

[busch42]

Thanks alot setarip_old, tsMuxeR worked great, I'm now running BDrebuilder and will let you know how I make out, There is just one question, There is a site I go to for a guide to show you how to use BDrebuilder and in the settings under Audio Encoding Options he doesn't the box checked that says Keep HD Audio for BD25/ Alternate Intact, But there is some people that say you should have that checked, What is your's and jdobbs opinion? Thanks.

[setarip_old]

@busch42

I don't mean to sound harsh, but this thread is supposed to be exclusively for the reporting and analysis of bugs discovered in BD-RB.

(I personally NEVER keep HD audio)

I'd suggest that for postings that are NOT SPECIFICALLY related to BD-RB bugs, you simply create new threads (with meaningful titles for the threads) - and that way we can all be happy rule-abiding campers ;>}

[busch42]

Sorry setarip_old, Your right I should know better, But just to let you know BDrebuilder still didn't work for me, time to give up.

[SquallMX]

@jdobbs, I found a bug when using x264's internal LAVF for decoding that causes undersized output and (potentially) out of specs streams, basically the demuxed original video is identify by LAVF as 25 fps regardless of the original framerate (23.976), so the bitrate of the output stream (after muxing at the original framerate) is lower than expected by a ~4% (25/23.976 = 1.0427):

- [12:20:18] Reencoding video [VID_00050]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 823 frames
- Bitrate: 13,124 Kbs
- [12:20:18] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:20:42] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 2 of 2

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8560/namelessj.png

Bitrate as reported by BDInfo.

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 0:00:34.284 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 56,961,024 bytes
Total Bitrate: 13.89 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 12657 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

Is not really that much of a difference, but I wonder if that does not cause compatibility problems since the buffer and the max bitrate of the stream where calculated using a different fps value. I don't have a 29.97 Blu-ray, but if that kind of discs are affected too the file-size differences could be huge (20%).

[techno1]

I've done about 40 backups using the new version... no issues.

There was a new version of X264 included in the release of BD-RB v0.40.09, so there's always a chance that could be an issue. Since then there is another new version of X264 (http://www.x264.nl/) (revision 2197) out, in case someone thinks they are crashing due to the last release. I just started testing it today. Just remember to only use the 8-bit depth versions. You also have to remember to rename the 64 bit version to x264-64.EXE for BD-RB to see it.

I noticed in Windows Task Manager I'm running the x264.exe *32 version and not the 64bit version. I already have a x264-64.exe in the Tool folder. How can I make BD-RB use the 64bit version? It used to use the 64bit version in the past.

[Ch3vr0n]

do you have the option "use LAVF encoding" enabled ?

[NightHawkGuy]

I noticed in Windows Task Manager I'm running the x264.exe *32 version and not the 64bit version. I already have a x264-64.exe in the Tool folder. How can I make BD-RB use the 64bit version? It used to use the 64bit version in the past.

Thats completely normal - since only the 32bit version can use avisynth filters since its 32bit.
The 64bit version of x264 is only used if external filters are not used, in LAVF mode.

[techno1]

Thank you Ch3vr0n and NightHawkGuy for your responses!

I selected the LAVF option and now see x264-64.exe running. Is there an advantage to using internal vs. external filters?

[NightHawkGuy]

Thank you Ch3vr0n and NightHawkGuy for your responses!

I selected the LAVF option and now see x264-64.exe running. Is there an advantage to using internal vs. external filters?

some formats (like interlaced vc-1) may have problems with LAVF and some features such as resizing require avisynth filters and therefore need to use the standard 32bit (nonLAVF) method.
under windows 7 64bit, i find that non-LAVF is often faster in any case with a 6core AMD CPU.
i'd suggest trying an encode both ways and see which is faster on your particular system.

[techno1]

Okay, I turned LAVF on and timed a rebuild of Limitless. x264-64.exe was running at 99%. It took 4.18 hours including time to create an ISO.

Then I unchecked the LAVF option and let it run again. However, x264-64.exe STILL ran at 99%. Not the *32 version as before. This time it took 5.13 hours including time to create an ISO. I'm also running and AMD 6 core CPU.

Obviously I want to enable the LAVF option in the future. It seems there is some latch function that only wants to run the 64 bit version now, with or without the LAVF option.

[hifreak]

I tried 2 movies yesterday Alien 3 and Alien 4. Before that I successfully reencoded Alien and Aliens 2, but these 2 I got video aborted, can it be the new X264?

==========================
[17:57:38] BD Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
[17:57:38] BEGIN - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
-----------------------
[17:57:38] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [23]
----------------------
[05-03-12] BD Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
[17:57:39] Source: ALIEN_3
- Input BD size: 25,51 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:52.641]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:57:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:57:40] Processing: VID_00750 (1 of 27)
- [17:57:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00750]
- [18:05:39] Reencoding video [VID_00750]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 5.029 frames
- Bitrate: 16.275 Kbs
- [18:05:39] Reencoding: VID_00750, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:07:14] Reencoding: VID_00750, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:10:05] Video Encode complete
- [18:10:05] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [18:10:05] Processing: VID_00752 (2 of 27)
- [18:10:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00752]
- [18:11:02] Reencoding video [VID_00752]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 16.081 frames
- Bitrate: 16.469 Kbs
- [18:11:02] Reencoding: VID_00752, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:15:24] Reencoding: VID_00752, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:26:44] Video Encode complete
- [18:26:44] Processing: VID_00753 (3 of 27)
- [18:26:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00753]
- [18:26:54] Reencoding video [VID_00753]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.334 frames
- Bitrate: 16.554 Kbs
- [18:26:54] Reencoding: VID_00753, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:27:32] Reencoding: VID_00753, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:29:16] Video Encode complete
- [18:29:16] Processing: VID_00754 (4 of 27)
- [18:29:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00754]
- [18:29:27] Reencoding video [VID_00754]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.355 frames
- Bitrate: 16.291 Kbs
- [18:29:27] Reencoding: VID_00754, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:30:05] Reencoding: VID_00754, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:31:46] Video Encode complete
- [18:31:46] Processing: VID_00755 (5 of 27)
- [18:31:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00755]
- [18:32:20] Reencoding video [VID_00755]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 9.314 frames
- Bitrate: 16.293 Kbs
- [18:32:20] Reencoding: VID_00755, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:34:55] Reencoding: VID_00755, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:41:33] Video Encode complete
- [18:41:33] Processing: VID_00756 (6 of 27)
- [18:41:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00756]
- [18:42:45] Reencoding video [VID_00756]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 19.151 frames
- Bitrate: 16.341 Kbs
- [18:42:45] Reencoding: VID_00756, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:48:13] Reencoding: VID_00756, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:01:51] Video Encode complete
- [19:01:51] Processing: VID_00757 (7 of 27)
- [19:01:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00757]
- [19:02:01] Reencoding video [VID_00757]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.053 frames
- Bitrate: 16.568 Kbs
- [19:02:01] Reencoding: VID_00757, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:02:36] Reencoding: VID_00757, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:04:03] Video Encode complete
- [19:04:03] Processing: VID_00758 (8 of 27)
- [19:04:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00758]
- [19:04:17] Reencoding video [VID_00758]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.281 frames
- Bitrate: 16.140 Kbs
- [19:04:17] Reencoding: VID_00758, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:05:14] Reencoding: VID_00758, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:07:35] Video Encode complete
- [19:07:35] Processing: VID_00759 (9 of 27)
- [19:07:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00759]
- [19:07:53] Reencoding video [VID_00759]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.243 frames
- Bitrate: 16.237 Kbs
- [19:07:53] Reencoding: VID_00759, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:08:51] Reencoding: VID_00759, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:11:07] Video Encode complete
- [19:11:07] Processing: VID_00760 (10 of 27)
- [19:11:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00760]
- [19:11:47] Reencoding video [VID_00760]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 12.286 frames
- Bitrate: 16.383 Kbs
- [19:11:47] Reencoding: VID_00760, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:15:11] Reencoding: VID_00760, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:24:00] Video Encode complete
- [19:24:00] Processing: VID_00761 (11 of 27)
- [19:24:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00761]
- [19:24:24] Reencoding video [VID_00761]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6.950 frames
- Bitrate: 16.468 Kbs
- [19:24:24] Reencoding: VID_00761, Pass 1 of 2
- [19:26:22] Reencoding: VID_00761, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:31:32] Video Encode complete
- [19:31:32] Processing: VID_00762 (12 of 27)
- [19:31:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00762]
- [19:31:47] Reencoding video [VID_00762]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.597 frames
- Bitrate: 16.348 Kbs
- [19:31:47] Reencoding: VID_00762, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:56:45] - Failed video encode, aborted
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[19:56:45] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [24]
----------------------
[05-03-12] BD Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
[19:56:53] Source: ALIEN_RESURRECTION
- Input BD size: 29,41 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:08.669]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:56:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:56:54] Processing: VID_00750 (1 of 13)
- [19:56:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00750]
[19:59:00]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
[19:59:00] BATCH ABORTED...
==========================
[19:59:00] END - BATCH SEQUENCE
==========================
----------------------
[05-03-12] BD Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
[19:59:32] Source: ALIEN_3
- Input BD size: 25,51 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:52.641]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[19:59:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:59:33] Processing: VID_00762 (12 of 27)
- [19:59:33] Reencoding video [VID_00762]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.597 frames
- Bitrate: 21.015 Kbs
- [19:59:33] Reencoding: VID_00762, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[19:59:34] - Failed video encode, aborted
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[05-03-12] BD Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
[20:01:57] Source: ALIEN_RESURRECTION
- Input BD size: 29,41 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:08.669]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[20:02:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:02:01] Processing: VID_00750 (1 of 13)
- [20:02:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00750]
- [20:09:46] Reencoding video [VID_00750]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 6.779 frames
- Bitrate: 21.469 Kbs
- [20:09:46] Reencoding: VID_00750, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:11:42] Reencoding: VID_00750, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:17:06] Video Encode complete
- [20:17:07] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [20:17:07] Processing: VID_00701 (2 of 13)
- [20:17:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00701]
- [20:17:20] Reencoding video [VID_00701]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.085 frames
- Bitrate: 21.283 Kbs
- [20:17:20] Reencoding: VID_00701, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:18:01] Reencoding: VID_00701, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:19:42] Video Encode complete
- [20:19:42] Processing: VID_00751 (3 of 13)
- [20:19:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00751]
- [20:21:51] Reencoding video [VID_00751]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 25.970 frames
- Bitrate: 21.229 Kbs
- [20:21:51] Reencoding: VID_00751, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:29:40] Reencoding: VID_00751, Pass 2 of 2
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3882, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[20:59:03] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Capsbackup]

I tried 2 movies yesterday Alien 3 and Alien 4. Before that I successfully reencoded Alien and Aliens 2, but these 2 I got video aborted, can it be the new X264?

I would try without LAVF selected to see if your results change. Also, try just one at a time rather than "Batch".

[hifreak]

I would try without LAVF selected to see if your results change. Also, try just one at a time rather than "Batch".

Ok Will try what you suggested without batch lavf

[jdobbs]

@hifreak

I'd take a look at any/all system stability factors. The fact that several AVC sources have successfully encoded before having issues leads one to believe it isn't configuration related. Check out anything that might lead to overheating.

[hautem]

BD-Rebuilder works great 99.99% of the time for me on full backup BD's, but every once in a while I hit a brick wall and the "Chinatown" Blu-ray is one of them. Burned the backup only to find out later when watching that at around 1:29:00 into the movie, the audio synch goes out by about 500ms (audio is before the video - corresponding video is around 500ms late) and it stays that way from around 1:29:00 to the end of the film. Audio sync is fine from the beginning up to that point. I'm going on my 7th re-encode trying to figure out what's going on and every single re-encode has that late timing at the same mark.

All BD-Rebuilder system programs are compliant/set correctly using Inspect.exe
BD-Rebuilder encoder settings are Good (Very Fast) - One Pass (ABR) Encoding
Movie is one .m2ts file (00800.m2ts) MPEG-4 (AVC). The original .m2ts file plays fine on my PC via MPC as well as the original Blu-ray disc on a stand-alone Sony BDP-S480.
Out-of-sync re-encodes are confirmed on my PC using either MPC or VLC.
After the 1st bad encode, ripped the original disc a 2nd time using AnyDVDHD 7.0.4.0
Both the original 5.1 main audio and (mono) tracks are TRUE-HD. Initial encode was set to "do not convert/reencode" checked (default) to extract cores.
Commentary track is 2-channel AC3 and ironically the only one that stays in sync from beginning to end
With "do not convert/reencode" checked, tried "Keeping the HD audio..." checked. That's worked before on "multi"-.m2ts movies where I would hear audio interruptions at file transitions on my Sony BDP-S480 when HD audio was down-converted - didn't work here.
Tried just keeping the (mono) TRUE-HD audio track - still the same
Tried substituting the x264.exe converter from the previous version of BD-Rebuilder (BD-RBV04008 - x264 - v2164), but still the same thing. Tried the newest x264 version (2197) - still the same
After one of the encodes, tried extracting the original main TRUE-HD 5.1 track via tsMuxeR 1.10.6, down-converted to AC3, demuxed the re-encode and replaced/muxed to .m2ts with the original down-converted extraction - still the same.

Things I haven't tried yet are movie-only and "do not convert/reencode" unchecked, which I figured was pointless since the core is at 640kbps anyway and that the tsMuxeR 1.10.6 experiment didn't work. If anyone has a clue

Thanks...

[hautem]

Still looking into this "Chinatown" thing and not sure how much of a bearing it has, but when looking at the various files using MediaInfo in PBCore 1.2 view:

00800.m2ts (original file) - <formatDuration>02:10:32.520</formatDuration>
00800.m2ts (re-encoded file) - <formatDuration>02:10:31.782</formatDuration>

with the re-encoded .m2ts file being slightly longer by 262ms

In BDeditv0.17b (not that familiar with how to read BDedit info. - from the playlist tab for 00800.mpls):

00800.m2ts (original file) - 02:10:32.824
00800.m2ts (re-encoded file) - 02:10:31.782

The corresponding extracted AC3 core files in the WORKFILES folder of my latest re-encode in MediaInfo:

00800.track_4352.ac3 (main movie track) - <formatDuration>02:10:31.328</formatDuration>
00800.track_4357.ac3 (commentary track) - <formatDuration>02:10:31.808</formatDuration>

where the audio file lengths are different - by right around the amount I've been guesstimating - 480ms

Maybe I'll try ditching the audio commentary track.

[hautem]

Typo in that last entry...

In BDeditv0.17b:

00800.m2ts (original file) - should have been 02:10:31.824 instead of 02:10:32.824

[bluerip]

Hi Guys,
I tried the movie Immortals (Krieg der Götter) in German.
Got this error.



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[05.06.12] BD Rebuilder v0.40.09 (beta)
[12:40:49] Source: KRIEG_DER_GOETTER
- Input BD size: 18,97 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:50:43.678]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=448
[12:40:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:40:50] Processing: VID_00084 (1 of 2)
- [12:40:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00084]
- [13:04:05] Reencoding video [VID_00084]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 159.264 frames
- Bitrate: 4.848 Kbs
- [13:04:05] Reencoding: VID_00084, Pass 1 of 2
- [14:44:39] Reencoding: VID_00084, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:32:02] Video Encode complete
- [18:32:03] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (deu): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- [18:32:04] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (deu): Reencoding audio to AC3...
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00084_4352.AVS]
[18:32:05] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted

Who can help?

[jceden35]

I've used BD-Rebuilder for quite some time and really never had an issue......Unitl recently I've never really gotten an error that I couldn't figure out. I've been backing up my collection of Blurays for a while now (whenever I get a chance) and have always been realitvely successful. However using the latest Beta Ver. 40.09 I'm unable to successfully back up my 3D versions of my collection. Here's basically what happens:

I put my original in and run AnyDvd/HD and it will play (do this to test). I then rip the entire disc to an ISO. I then mount the ISO and run it again (while AnyDvd/HD is in the background) and play it to again make sure it plays while mounted in the ISO format. I then turnoff AnyDvd/HD and run BD-Rebuilder. The software see's the movie and I check off the few options like 25GB file and turn into an ISO using Image Burn...........

Here's where the mystery comes. It does everything like normal, doesn't come up with any errors and then creates an ISO via Image Burn........However when I either burn to a Disc or Mount it as an Image when it has been compressed under 25GB the image will not play either in my PS3 (under a year old with newest firmware) or on my media PC using PowerDVD 11 (latest update). In the PC it tries to load forever and on the Media PC running PowerDVD 11 Ultra it says that "Cyberlink Power DVD could not read a file on this disc, playback will stop"

Any other Bluray I back up in my collection will playback fine. It is only the 3D blurays that are having the error/problems.

Any Ideas.........?

Rig Specs:

Bluray Burner: LG GBW-H20L
Processor FX-8120
Hard Drives 128GB Kingston SSD & Hitachi 1TB Sata II ATA
Memory: 16GB Dual Channel

[CV91913]

BD-Rebuilder works great 99.99% of the time for me on full backup BD's, but every once in a while I hit a brick wall and the "Chinatown" Blu-ray is one of them. Burned the backup only to find out later when watching that at around 1:29:00 into the movie, the audio synch goes out by about 500ms (audio is before the video - corresponding video is around 500ms late) and it stays that way from around 1:29:00 to the end of the film. Audio sync is fine from the beginning up to that point. I'm going on my 7th re-encode trying to figure out what's going on and every single re-encode has that late timing at the same mark.



I had exactly the same problem at exactly the same place. If you watch the movie carefully at that point in the movie, there is a very slight freeze in the video but the audio is not effected. So...from that point on the audio leads the video. I was able to finally get the movie to backup without the problem (after many tries with various audio settings.) I used BDRB directly on the original BluRay disc. I loaded AnyDVD and did movie only build directly from the BluRay. It took a bit longer but it did work. Not too sure why. HTH.

[jdobbs]

jceden35...

I had exactly the same problem at exactly the same place. If you watch the movie carefully at that point in the movie, there is a very slight freeze in the video but the audio is not effected. So...from that point on the audio leads the video. I was able to finally get the movie to backup without the problem (after many tries with various audio settings.) I used BDRB directly on the original BluRay disc. I loaded AnyDVD and did movie only build directly from the BluRay. It took a bit longer but it did work. Not too sure why. HTH. That has to mean the rip didn't go straight when it was copied to hard drive. Not sure how that could happen -- I've never experienced it myself.

[CV91913]

That has to mean the rip didn't go straight when it was copied to hard drive. Not sure how that could happen -- I've never experienced it myself.

Yep...it was a first for me too. I re-ripped it but the problem existed in the original even though the original would play with the slight freeze...but it did not screw up the sound. Go figa.

[hautem]

That has to mean the rip didn't go straight when it was copied to hard drive. Not sure how that could happen -- I've never experienced it myself.

@CV91913 and @jdobbs - thanks much for the feedback, but it's been such a long time that I've had a bad original disc, I'd forgotten that it can cause this type of problem. The 3rd and 4th rips to my hard drive showed noticeable pixelization in the lower section of the frame at 01:29:01 when playing the original .m2ts file on MPC-HC (VLC is apparently more forgiving as is my stand-alone player). Odd that the pixelization wasn't visible on the 1st and 2nd rips. I'll have to see about getting a replacement disc.

Thanks...

[The_Unknown]

As the log indicates, I would suggest you reset "Remove Short Titles" and "Remove Annoying Adverts" in AnyDVD to off, and rerip. Those settings are considered "preprocessing" and is likely the source of your problem -- or at least a contributing factor. If you want to remove those types of things, I would suggest you do so within BD-RB.

Concerning this I have to say that the option "Remove Annoying Adverts" never caused problems with any BD Rebuilding (I've done about 80 rebuilts). It's rather "Remove Short Titles" which causes the trouble.

[jdobbs]

Concerning this I have to say that the option "Remove Annoying Adverts" never caused problems with any BD Rebuilding (I've done about 80 rebuilts). It's rather "Remove Short Titles" which causes the trouble.

I've had issues reported with both, and that's why I can't support bug reports when either of them is set... Sorry.

[[SLiM]D12]

I know this is gonna sound weird, but hear me out. I know we can convert the DTS streams to AC3 and whatnot. Do we have options to convert to PCM? I've converted my audio to PCM and when i mux back into my m2ts file, the audio doesn't play. I know there's more to it, changing mpls files or whatever, just looking for some help.

[jdobbs]

D12;1574219']I know this is gonna sound weird, but hear me out. I know we can convert the DTS streams to AC3 and whatnot. Do we have options to convert to PCM? I've converted my audio to PCM and when i mux back into my m2ts file, the audio doesn't play. I know there's more to it, changing mpls files or whatever, just looking for some help. Not sure why you'd want to convert DTS to WAV? The WAV couldn't sound any better than DTS (since it would be derived from DTS) -- so why make it bigger?

[omegaman7]

Sometimes converting to other formats is beneficial. Take Nero Vision (9)for instance. It doesn't like MKV files. But MKV2VOB can output to AVCHD/M2TS without encoding(use it for inserting Black bars). Apparently the program need only change a few bits of data :D OGG audio or FLAC isn't very common. But MP3 and Wav are ;) Perhaps this is a bad example though. I certainly have no current need to convert DTS to WAV.

[[SLiM]D12]

Just trying to figure something out.

So I've taken my PCM file, and muxed back into a new m2ts. I've replaced the m2ts file in my bd structure with this new file, as well as the cpli file that was created.

Still no audio. Am I missing something else?

[jdobbs]

Both the MPLS file and the CLPI reference the type of audio in the M2TS file. In fact, its possible that more than one MPLS could do so.

[Sharc]

I usually do 1-pass CRF predictive encoding with good results. While in very most cases of single-segment sources the prediction steps look "reasonable" and the target size is met with good accuracy, I run into a couple of problems with segmented sources. For most of the segments -- even for the short ones of 1000...5000 frames -- the CRF prediction process looks reasonable (5 .... 10 steps) resulting in final CRF values around 18. However, for some segments the final CRF value is obtained in 1 single step producing IMO "skewed" final CRF values. Examples:

- [11:49:12] Processing: VID_00459 (5 of 23)
- [11:49:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00459]
- [11:49:29] Reencoding video [VID_00459]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2'798 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 2'798 frames
- [11:49:29] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 19.00 [34.50]
- [11:49:41] Encoding using constant rate factor.

- [12:46:31] Processing: VID_00465 (11 of 23)
- [12:46:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00465]
- [12:46:52] Reencoding video [VID_00465]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3'563 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 3'563 frames
- [12:46:53] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 19.27 [14.63]
- [12:47:04] Encoding using constant rate factor.

- [14:11:52] Processing: VID_00473 (19 of 23)
- [14:11:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00473]
- [14:12:21] Reencoding video [VID_00473]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 5'240 frames
- Convert: 1280x720, 23.976fps, 5'240 frames
- [14:12:21] Performing CRF Prediction...
- Analyzing 19.15 [14.58]
- [14:12:35] Encoding using constant rate factor.

I played with SAMPLE_GROUP and SAMPLE_SIZE but still get these 1-step predictions for some of the segments.

Are these skewed single-step predictions possibly a bug in the algorithm (early termination of the prediction cycle?)

[jdobbs]

Hmmm... not sure how that could happen. It looks like it gets close to the target size with the first CRF, and does one more tweak before encoding -- which for some reason swings it way off-kilter. I'll take a look at it.

[[SLiM]D12]

Both the MPLS file and the CLPI reference the type of audio in the M2TS file. In fact, its possible that more than one MPLS could do so.

Ok when i load the MPLS in BDInfo, it shows the proper audio LPCM audio.

Any other ideas on how i can acomplish this? really appreciate it.

[jdobbs]

D12;1574305']Ok when i load the MPLS in BDInfo, it shows the proper audio LPCM audio.

Any other ideas on how i can acomplish this? really appreciate it.

What are you using to play it back? If you're trying to play it on your PC, you may want to check the FFDSHOW Audio Decoder Configuration and make sure "Uncompressed" audio is set to "All Supported".

[[SLiM]D12]

What are you using to play it back? If you're trying to play it on your PC, you may want to check the FFDSHOW Audio Decoder Configuration and make sure "Uncompressed" audio is set to "All Supported".

On PowerDVD and PS3 it's showing no audio stream at all. When I use Total Media Theatre, it's showing up as expected...

PS3 is in my intended player of course.

[phoskins]

Using BD-RBv04009 everything seems to go fine during reading and compression, when ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie. Did not encounter this problem with V04008. Any suggestions? Thanks!!

[jdobbs]

Using BD-RBv04009 everything seems to go fine during reading and compression, when ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie. Did not encounter this problem with V04008. Any suggestions? Thanks!! Gotta' be something else... BD-RB hasn't changed in that area in a long, long time -- and frankly, it does nothing but wait for ImgBurn to complete anyway.

[phoskins]

BD-RBv04008 was superceeded by BD-RBv04009 recently. Using V09, everything seems to go fine during reading and compression, when ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie. I am using a new clean copy of imgburn 2570 and the subprograms with the suggested changes. Still doesn't work. RD-RB say to set MPG2 in Video Decoder Configuration in FFDSHOW to "enabled" but "enabled" is not an option. The options are "libavcodec", "libmpeg2" and "disabled". As I mentioned, the only change made was from v04008 to v04009. I'm using a new copy of RD-RB v04009 as well. Is there any way I can go back to RD-RB V04008? When I try to use it I receive a message indicating that v04008 is gone and I must us V04009.
Any suggestions? Thanks!!

[RobertM]

Why don't you just have BDRB rebuild the movie and stop there. Then launch ImgBurn yourself, manually, and try burning it.

[worknstiff]

@ phoskins RE: ImgBurn (V2.0.7.0) burns the disc, it only burns 50% of the movie.

Have you even looked at the finished rebuild to see if it indeed has the complete movie??? Thats the place I would look at first instead of thinking ImgBurn lost 50% of what was being burned.

[[SLiM]D12]

@jdobbs

The reason i'm doing this is because i'm trying to backup my cinavia title of Zookeeper. Kids keep scratching it, and i want one that will play in the PS3. So i'm using this to do it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1468333#post1468333

Originally Posted by 3r1c
I am the author of that program.
It doesn't convert/transcode to PCM, it does SPDIF conversion.
The PS3 "thinks" its playing a PCM, but really its bitstreaming a DTS to the amp.
Source code
http://www.3r1c.eu/mkv2vob/dtsinpcm.c
I can assure you it does work.

This particular method may not be very useful for anydvd though, it only works on ps3 and requires an external DTS amp, otherwise you just get static.

Basically it does what he says, takes the DTS and fools the PS3 into thinking it's PCM and cinavia doesn't kick in. I've compiled his code, and managed to get a PCM track of my movie.

So i'm just wanting to change my bluray output from having DTS-HD or AC3 and making it PCM instead. Not working though.

Thanks in advance for your help!

[worknstiff]

Man! Sony just keeps shooting themselves in the foot with all this crap, it's hard to see how they can justify doing this to all the PS3 owners that just want to watch a bluray. I hope someone can get them to see what a mistake it is to treat their paying customers like this, and watch the only product they are making money on become irrelevant. On another note, I usually keep the HD Audio when I'm converting to a BD if it only uses like 3 or 4 gigs of space, but on this title there is like 9 episodes with TRUE-HD audio that adds up to quite a bit of audio space on a 3 plus hour disk. I took the checks out of all the keep HD audio settings and the log show that BD_RB is keeping only the HD Core, but the finished BD has only 484 bit audio instead of the 640 I was expecting. Is there a setting somewhere I'm missing??? thanks, worknstiff

[phoskins]

I hear you. Just seems odd that the only thing that I can see that changed was going from v04008 to v04009. I'll play with it to see if I can get it to work. Thank you sir!

[Glarioo]

Last couple of days i'm using the Alternate Movie-Only Output, MKV Container 1920x1080, 640 Kbs DD 5.1.
Why? My Dune H1 handles these MKV files better than BD files, both made with BD Rebuilder. Trying out the CRF mode in different settings (CRF 21, 20, 19). What strikes me is the big difference between CRF 20 and 19, both file size and bitrate.
When i convert "When We Need To Talk About Kevin" with CRF 20 i get a file size of 9.24GB with a maximum bit rate of 15 Mbps, then i used CRF 19: file size = 12GB, maximum bit rate = 30 Mbps. When i open the files with MediaInfo max. birate is set to this values (vbv_maxrate=15000 or 30000) in the encoding settings. I'm not specialised in these things but it seems more logical to me: CRF 21 vbv_maxrate=15000, CRF 20 vbv_maxrate=20000, ...
My question: can i set it manual to an higher max bitrate? (for example CRF 20 with vbv_maxrate=20000).
If so, i can try it out to see there's a noticeable better image quality.

[sreemv]

Wrong thread - moved it

[Audiophile1178]

jdobbs,

First of all, Thank you for this great program! My settings are full backup, high quality two pass encoding, with x264's internal LAVF for decoding checked and DTSX_ENABLE=1 in my BDREBUILDER.INI. I only use the programs that you tell me to use on the first page. My system is windows 7 x64 with 8 gigs of memory.



I'm backing up the mummy trilogy. It seems that they all have pip. Here's my list of problems that maybe you can help me fix:

Mummy 1:Original PIP is 480p but BDRebuilder encodes as 480i? There is no sound from the BDRebuilder PIP.

Original Disc:VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Advanced Profile 2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio Portuguese 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Czech 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Hungarian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Polish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio Thai 448 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

BDRebuilder: VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480i / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Main Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit


Mummy 2:Original PIP is 480p but BDRebuilder encodes as 480i? There is no sound from the BDRebuilder PIP.

Original Disc:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Advanced Profile 2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Czech 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Hungarian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Polish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio Thai 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround

BDRebuilder:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480i / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / Main Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround


Mummy 3:There is no sound from either PIP but the BDrebuilder PIP encode is in 480p.

Original Disc:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 384 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 384 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Czech 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Hungarian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Polish 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Russian 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio Thai 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

BDRebuilder:
VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main Profile 3.2
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB / Dolby Surround
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Express English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 24-bit

[drmih]

I have done all of the Mummy trilogy and the PiP works fine if you have a player which can handle it.