BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Furiousflea]

Yesterday I was encoding Ghost Town. I stripped all other languages other than English to maintain the best bitrate. Original size: 27,4 GB.
After the encode was down I checked the new size, and it was 21,4 GB. Quite a waste of space, I ended up re-adding the stripped languages, as I had space left anyway.
I checked the log, and noticed the target rate was exactly 25.000. I browsed through some x264 settings, and came up that this probably is because of a max_rate setting, set to 25000?
I'ld really like it to be possible to change this setting, whether it is in the program or in the config file. Thanks in advance.

jdobbs has stated that 25mbps is a more than high enough maxiumum bitrate to use for any video source.

[mhammer]

mhammer: Could you try muxing an audio track with these 2 video streams (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gjzkgyzujjn)?

It's the last things I can think of as differences between RipBot264 and BD-RB output.

Both working, but these testpartern work all. This should only be done with real movieclips.
I´am very busy at the moment because of work, but if i find some time on weekend, i will try encoding with BD-RB settings from mkv.

As i wrote before:
"I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing"

I tried Bd-Rb 264-Settings in Ripbot, also without "Nalhrd and aud" - works fine.

[turbojet]

That just hangs the player when you try and select the main movie.

Okay I'll take a look at them again over the next few days and see if I can find anything that's kind of obvious.

Both working, but these testpartern work all. This should only be done with real movieclips.
I´am very busy at the moment because of work, but if i find some time on weekend, i will try encoding with BD-RB settings from mkv.

As i wrote before:
"I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing"

I tried Bd-Rb 264-Settings in Ripbot, also without "Nalhrd and aud" - works fine.

Nice you found out the cause/fix. Very strange that demuxing to mkv is the fix. I was thinking all along it was something to do with the encoded stream instead of the source it encodes from.

[mhammer]

Nice you found out the cause/fix. Very strange that demuxing to mkv is the fix. I was thinking all along it was something to do with the encoded stream instead of the source it encodes from.

I´am not sure if that is the fix, but will try it on weekend.

[Wolfe999]

In my last 2 reencodes (using v0.22.01), one of them just 5 minutes ago, the process stopped with CURRENT PROGRESS at 100% and OVERALL PROGRESS at 50% at 1st pass. I had to click abort and then reclick backup for the process to restart where it has left it. Haven't changed anything from my settings: "Normal Priority - High Quality - Movie Only and depending from the movie, BD5 or BD9" As soon as I finish the movie I'm doing now, I'll go back to v0.21.01 and see if the problem reproduces itself, when it never before has taken place. As soon as I finish the new movie with the former version, I'll report back.

Regards :)

[jdobbs]

I´am not sure if that is the fix, but will try it on weekend. That would really surprise me if it were... it sounds more like something in the muxing.

[jdobbs]

In my last 2 reencodes (using v0.22.01), one of them just 5 minutes ago, the process stopped with CURRENT PROGRESS at 100% and OVERALL PROGRESS at 50% at 1st pass. I had to click abort and then reclick backup for the process to restart where it has left it. Haven't changed anything from my settings: "Normal Priority - High Quality - Movie Only and depending from the movie, BD5 or BD9" As soon as I finish the movie I'm doing now, I'll go back to v0.21.01 and see if the problem reproduces itself, when it never before has taken place. As soon as I finish the new movie with the former version, I'll report back.

Regards :) It resumed on the second pass, though? If so, then at least I can know that it happened after the first X264 instance had terminated and look elsewhere.

[Wolfe999]

It resumed on the second pass, though? If so, then at least I can know that it happened after the first X264 instance had terminated and look elsewhere.

Yeah, jdobbs. It could have gone on forever stuck at 100% after finishing the 1st pass. But when I aborted the process and then clicked again on backup, the program asked if I wanted to continued from the point where it was cancelled. Then it began the 2nd pass and finished the process without any problem. I burnt both projects and checked both DVD's and they seemed to be ok. Now I have reverted to the former version and I'm doing another movie. I'll report in some hours, as soon as it is finished.

[Wolfe999]

@Jdobbs

Though the work I'm doing now with v0.21.01 hasn't finished yet, I'm almost sure what happened before must be a bug of the last version, because the reencoding I'm doing at this moment is in the 2nd pass and in the 57% of the Overall Process, when before always got stuck at 50% at the completion of the 1st pass.. If anything strange happens, I'll report back. If not, I'll keep with this version till you say the bug of 0.22 is fixed.

Regards (and thanx again for your work) :)
Wolfe

[MikeyBK]

JD... I also just got a similiar quirk as Wolfe999.
On the movie I just did last night, it shows as complete, but the Overall Progess meter is stuck at 50%. The BD-9 'did' actually finish but shows @ 50% on that progress meter. When I tried resuming the job again, it restarts at the BD structure rebuilding.... so apparently both passes were indeed completed.

So I just tried out a test file thru v0.22.01, and you'll see the quirk in the overall progress reporting... two screenshots below

You can see below that it is already on the second pass, but stuck at 0% overall...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4489/v02201overallprogressmi.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v02201overallprogressmi.png)

And below, the encode and rebuild is fully completed, but it still shows as 0%
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3023/v02201overallprogressmio.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v02201overallprogressmio.png)

[Tongariro]

Yeah, jdobbs. It could have gone on forever stuck at 100% after finishing the 1st pass. But when I aborted the process and then clicked again on backup, the program asked if I wanted to continued from the point where it was cancelled. Then it began the 2nd pass and finished the process without any problem. I burnt both projects and checked both DVD's and they seemed to be OK. Now I have reverted to the former version and I'm doing another movie. I'll report in some hours, as soon as it is finished.

It happened to me exactly what you describe.
Doing National Treasure it was stack 100% not moving.
Aborting the BD-RD and restarting again definitely did the trick and final result was perfect.

Tried it on the previous version with no problem.
it might be a BUG in new version.

[MikeyBK]

Oh and BTW... I do know that even though it was showing as 0% overall, it was indeed encoding because all 4 of my cores were being utilized.... so it's just a bug in that overall progress meter, and doesn't affect the 'actual' project or encoding...

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

[MikeyBK]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

Ideally you would want all four of your CPU's cores to be fully utilized while on that second pass....
My Q9550 utilizes aorund 80%-90% on the first pass, and around 97%-100% on the second. Anything less would mean that your system isn't fully utilizing all your CPU's power and potetntial.

[bassnut]

Yes I have had the same problem with BD Rebuilder freezing on the second pass whill doing the Harry Potter Series. A quick switch to Quicker encode for extras solved the problem and have been able to finish the movies. All issues seemed to be with VC-1 clips for the extras from what I had seen.

Tried all three options of FFDshow for encoding VC-1 - Disabled, libavcodec and wmv9 and is the same with all. Both libav (Harry Potter 3) and wmv9 (Harry Potter 2) worked fine and the burn finished. I have watched Harry Potter 3 and played right through no problems LPCM was retained and 1080p 24 worked fine and all extras on my Sony BDP-S350 as well with Total Media Theater and WinDVD 9.

[datman]

In my last 2 reencodes (using v0.22.01), one of them just 5 minutes ago, the process stopped with CURRENT PROGRESS at 100% and OVERALL PROGRESS at 50% at 1st pass. I had to click abort and then reclick backup for the process to restart where it has left it. Haven't changed anything from my settings: "Normal Priority - High Quality - Movie Only and depending from the movie, BD5 or BD9" As soon as I finish the movie I'm doing now, I'll go back to v0.21.01 and see if the problem reproduces itself, when it never before has taken place. As soon as I finish the new movie with the former version, I'll report back.

Regards :)

I have had this exact issue. It looks like it is stuck at the very end of the 1st pass, before the progress bar reset to 0% but the CPU remained max-ed out as if it was in a 2nd pass .The 1st 2 I restarted but on the 3rd it completed. The encode was fine. The 3rd,4th and 5th completed

All 5 encodes using 2201 had this issue. I was reluctant to post because I still have black and blue marks from my last posted error
;)

[Wolfe999]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

My new PC also has an I7 920 and gets the same percentage as you, so I want to suppose its normal :)

BTW, I went back to v0.21.01, did Unforgiven and everything went OK.

[MikeyBK]

v0.22.01 'does' actually run it's course completely, it just doesn't report the proper progress on the GUI. v22.01 has completed every Bluray I've thrown at it, so I'll continue to use that version and not go back to v21.01...

I'd call it more of a quirk than a bug, but all the same, I'm sure JD will look into it and corect it on the next release.

[legend8]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but whenever I try to convert to 720p, it leaves it as 1080p. I'm using the newest version, 1080p to 720p is enabled but it just wont do it. Always leaves it as 1080p. Both full backup and movie always result in the same thing. Target size doesn't change the outcome either. Bdrebuilder.ini shows "RESIZE_1080=1" and bdrebuilder.inf shows "RESIZE_1080=-1", not sure if thats correct or not. Anyone have any ideas what's going on?

[Category 5]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

Woah. I'm sure it's right because my Q6600 (running at 3GHz) gets about 7.5fps on pass 2. Wow I wish I got 23fps! At 7.5fps all 4 of my cores are lit.

I had no idea the i7 was that much more efficient! What GHz is yours running?

[kanerulz69]

i have a problem with it cutting off right when the overall process is around 94% to 97% i have got it to work after 3 attempts but it always cuts off, i did underworld 3 with quicker for extras (bd-25) and the same for it doing it without quicker for extras, tried normal mode and idel mode, i wish that it would resume from the 90+% current process instead of starting the entire movie process over at 0.00% then it would be ok, thank it would be good to have a pause/resume option for bd-rebuilder as well.

im using amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 2.50 ghz 32bit os (hp media center pc amd 64live) if that helps, its like the cpu fan is going super fast and then out of no where it shuts the pc down, i have tried changing the x264 / bd rebuilder to run on cpu 0 and just cpu 1 but still it shuts off? any help i would be thankful, i love the software its great, if only this problems could be fixed, along with the current process resume...

[bassnut]

I assume you are talking about this processor -

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor

I started with a 5200+ core which isn't much different than what you have without any problems though it was taking about 24 - 28 hours to do a movie and was in an Antec 900 case which has lots of cooling. This is sounding like it is more of a heat issue. What kind of case and cooling, Just a stock HP case and cooling I assume? if so you might be right with it overheating. I know there is a place in Windows vista that wil tell you your temps but for the life of me I can't remember exactly where right now ...... I use PC Wizzard (http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php) to find out info such as that. install, run and i temps you will see what is going on. Start this before you try againand you will have a better idea of what is going on.
http://209.91.177.82/Images/wiz.jpg

However you should be able to start the project over from where you left off as long as you made no changes to your settings. I am sure one of the guys with a bit more experience with this maybe a bit more helpfull.

[Category 5]

i have a problem with it cutting off right when the overall process is around 94% to 97% i have got it to work after 3 attempts but it always cuts off, i did underworld 3 with quicker for extras (bd-25) and the same for it doing it without quicker for extras, tried normal mode and idel mode, i wish that it would resume from the 90+% current process instead of starting the entire movie process over at 0.00% then it would be ok, thank it would be good to have a pause/resume option for bd-rebuilder as well.

im using amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 2.50 ghz 32bit os (hp media center pc amd 64live) if that helps, its like the cpu fan is going super fast and then out of no where it shuts the pc down, i have tried changing the x264 / bd rebuilder to run on cpu 0 and just cpu 1 but still it shuts off? any help i would be thankful, i love the software its great, if only this problems could be fixed, along with the current process resume...

Sounds like an underpowered PSU to me. Small PSU, over time loses stamina. Random shutdowns and reboots are usually PSU or RAM related.

[MikeyBK]

i have a problem with it cutting off right when the overall process is around 94% to 97% i have got it to work after 3 attempts but it always cuts off, i did underworld 3 with quicker for extras (bd-25) and the same for it doing it without quicker for extras, tried normal mode and idel mode, i wish that it would resume from the 90+% current process instead of starting the entire movie process over at 0.00% then it would be ok, thank it would be good to have a pause/resume option for bd-rebuilder as well.

im using amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 2.50 ghz 32bit os (hp media center pc amd 64live) if that helps, its like the cpu fan is going super fast and then out of no where it shuts the pc down, i have tried changing the x264 / bd rebuilder to run on cpu 0 and just cpu 1 but still it shuts off? any help i would be thankful, i love the software its great, if only this problems could be fixed, along with the current process resume...

It actually could be that your CPU is not cooling properly to sustain the high load temps while running x264 from BD-Rebuilder.

Have you monitored your CPU tenps while you're running x264? With something like CoreTemp?

[Rail-Runner]

Just did 300,The Day the Earth Stood Still & Crank in movie only BD25 Eng. nothing checked off, these would previously crap out with retry and abort in full movie but are successful in movie only except that they would hang at 50% overall progress with the CPU spiked at 100% useage even thow it was not progressing until aborted and continued from previous point then it would continue to process the remaining 50% to final burn status, I know there was an issue with the pip in some of these movies, but I thought I would mention this issue with hanging at 50% progress and the CPU spiked at 100% but not progressing until aborted and restarted from that point.

[MikeyBK]

Just did 300,The Day the Earth Stood Still & Crank in movie only BD25 Eng. nothing checked off, these would previously crap out with retry and abort in full movie but are successful in movie only except that they would hang at 50% overall progress with the CPU spiked at 100% useage even thow it was not progressing until aborted and continued from previous point then it would continue to process the remaining 50% to final burn status, I know there was an issue with the pip in some of these movies, but I thought I would mention this issue with hanging at 50% progress and the CPU spiked at 100% but not progressing until aborted and restarted from that point.

The issue of the progress meter showing stuck at 50% has already been reported.... it's just a GUI quirk in v22.01, the encoding does fully complete despite it not showing the progress in the progress meter.... just let it run and finish, and it will.

I'm sure JD will correct it when he has time to release the next beta.

[jdobbs]

Yeah, jdobbs. It could have gone on forever stuck at 100% after finishing the 1st pass. But when I aborted the process and then clicked again on backup, the program asked if I wanted to continued from the point where it was cancelled. Then it began the 2nd pass and finished the process without any problem. I burnt both projects and checked both DVD's and they seemed to be ok. Now I have reverted to the former version and I'm doing another movie. I'll report in some hours, as soon as it is finished. I've been running encodes all night trying to get this to repeat. It just keeps working correctly.

With the number of reports, this is clearly an real issue -- but I can't figure out why it only happens to some people.

Can someone summarize anything particular about their encode or system that might give me a hint to this?

One scenario is that BD-RB never gets a signal that X264 has terminated after the 1st pass and continues to wait... Another would be that it couldn't find the PID for X264 and is executing but not reporting the status. Could someone check the task manager and see if X264.EXE is still executing at the point where it appears to be stuck at 100%? Is everyone using the verions of X264 that was released with BD-RB?

Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

Woah. I'm sure it's right because my Q6600 (running at 3GHz) gets about 7.5fps on pass 2. Wow I wish I got 23fps! At 7.5fps all 4 of my cores are lit.

I had no idea the i7 was that much more efficient! What GHz is yours running?

Just the stock 2.67GHz, 3 GB triple channel RAM.
I noticed that a lot of dust can get inside the case and on the cpu fan, so it is probably a good idea to clean off the dust. Reduced cooling noticed immediatley.

[jdobbs]

The issue of the progress meter showing stuck at 50% has already been reported.... it's just a GUI quirk in v22.01, the encoding does fully complete despite it not showing the progress in the progress meter.... just let it run and finish, and it will.

I'm sure JD will correct it when he has time to release the next beta. Thanks for that. I think the PID detection may be the issue since it seem to complete anyway -- I changed it in this version.

[Capsbackup]

I've been running encodes all night trying to get this to repeat. It just keeps working correctly.

With the number of reports, this is clearly an real issue -- but I can't figure out why it only happens to some people.

Can someone summarize anything particular about their encode or system that might give me a hint to this?

One scenario is that BD-RB never gets a signal that X264 has terminated after the 1st pass and continues to wait... Another would be that it couldn't find the PID for X264 and is executing but not reporting the status. Could someone check and see if X264.EXE is still executing at the point where it appears to be stuck at 100%. Is everyone using the verions of X264 that was released with BD-RB?

Thanks.

I just finished a full movie backup of 40 Year Old Virgin to BD-25, and I did not experience this. I did notice that the extended version does not play, only the theatrical version. This movie does have PIP, so that is probably the reason. Now completed three backups with BD-RBV02201, and all were perfect, no glitches!!
Thanks again jdobbs. :D

[kanerulz69]

However you should be able to start the project over from where you left off as long as you made no changes to your settings. I am sure one of the guys with a bit more experience with this maybe a bit more helpfull.

i am able to start over at the overall process which is at 65% of the movie but the current when it shut off was like near the end and the overall was like 90%+ so when i resumed it started the entire movie all over from the beginning which still put the percent higher but not the current at the place where it shut off at

[kanerulz69]

Sounds like an underpowered PSU to me. Small PSU, over time loses stamina. Random shutdowns and reboots are usually PSU or RAM related.

it sounds like a jet taking off at times where the heatsink and fan are and then out of no where it will shut off and it does this even if the cpu is not at 100%? any ideas?

[GaPony]

I think a separate thread is in order... this problem has nothing to do with bugs in BD-Rebuilder. Start a new thread and I'm sure you'll get plenty of suggestions on solving your problem. :)

[MILLZY]

Bedtime stories that was failing on all other release`s at rebuild has worked great with version BD-RBV02201.Well done and thanks very much!:) Forgot to mention that this was at full backup BD-25.

[jdobbs]

Can I get some feedback on the new version and the PS-3? Is the movie-only output of BD-RB now working on PS-3s with the default settings?

Any issues or feedback from anyone related to the new AVCHD output and the "Stricter AVCHD..." settings? (Other than the one I already know concerning the retention of the CERTIFICATE folder).

[MikeyBK]

Can I get some feedback on the new version and the PS-3? Is the movie-only output of BD-RB now working on PS-3s with the default settings?

Any issues or feedback from anyone related to the new AVCHD output and the "Stricter AVCHD..." settings? (Other than the one I already know concerning the retention of the CERTIFICATE folder).

I can confirm that a movie only BD autoplays on the PS3 whether or not 'Stricter AVCHD' is checked or not... so yes, it plays on PS3s with default settings now.

[Wolfe999]

Is everyone using the verions of X264 that was released with BD-RB?

Thanks.

Yeah, I use the programs that come with BD-RB.

I will download now the new version and do another movie. Tomorrow I'll post if I had any problem. Sorry I won't be able to report on PS3 as I don't have it.

Thank you :)

[GaPony]

Can I get some feedback on the new version and the PS-3? Is the movie-only output of BD-RB now working on PS-3s with the default settings?

Any issues or feedback from anyone related to the new AVCHD output and the "Stricter AVCHD..." settings? (Other than the one I already know concerning the retention of the CERTIFICATE folder).

Works fine... no problems.

[jdobbs]

Thanks, all. :)

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have noticed that some movies, when viewing the associated .mpls file with TsMuxer, has an audio delay. Does BD-RB correct the audio delays that there may be on certain movies?

[Furiousflea]

ALL the Harry Potterr films have a massive 5-7 second audio delay on the 1080i extra that contains group interview with the main child cast.

No matter how you process it, keep\don't keeping interlacing.

This is using the Arcsoft VC1 decoder since the others all crash due to it being hybrid material.

[jdobbs]

ALL the Harry Potterr films have a massive 5-7 second audio delay on the 1080i extra that contains group interview with the main child cast.

No matter how you process it, keep\don't keeping interlacing.

This is using the Arcsoft VC1 decoder since the others all crash due to it being hybrid material. I just looked at that interview on AZKABAN. On mine it is MPEG-2 and 720x480. It plays back and encodes fine. I'll check out the other discs.


[Edit] Ok. I just found the one you're talking about on "Goblet of Fire" -- on my system the audio is off even on the (ripped) original when I play it back with Media Player. That wouldn't be a BD-RB issue... I'd guess the audio issue simply gets "passed through" during the encode. BTW: WMV11 doesn't crash on it, and at least on the Region A disc it isn't hybrid.

[Edit again] It looks like it isn't hybrid, but is pulldown. It appears that Media Player seems to be ignoring the pulldown flags, and that's what is causing the audio issue. I'd guess your frame server is doing the same.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I have noticed that some movies, when viewing the associated .mpls file with TsMuxer, has an audio delay. Does BD-RB correct the audio delays that there may be on certain movies? The delay is corrected in the demux when doing movie-only because the MPLS is used. My experience has been that you shouldn't change it when doing full backup. Are you experiencing issues with audio sync?

[ibanez]

Deleted [known issue]

[Capsbackup]

The delay is corrected in the demux when doing movie-only because the MPLS is used. My experience has been that you shouldn't change it when doing full backup. Are you experiencing issues with audio sync?

A full backup of Batman Begins, Region A, had very noticeable audio out of sync after burning to BD-RE and playing back on my Sony BX1, but the audio seemed to be in sync when played back on the computer with MPC. A movie only backup of 40 Year Old Virgin to BD-5 seemed to be out of sync slightly, but still very watchable.
I'm not sure if you read the post a few weeks back about Terminator 3 and VC-1 1080i and audio sync issues, and what I did to correct that one, but that is completely different from this concern.

[Wolfe999]

Yeah, I use the programs that come with BD-RB.

I will download now the new version and do another movie. Tomorrow I'll post if I had any problem. Sorry I won't be able to report on PS3 as I don't have it.

Thank you :)

Sorry for the delay.

The fix you did for the last version works perfectly. I did another movie and the transition from 1 to 2 pass went smoothly and the movie finished without problem
:)

[Furiousflea]

I just looked at that interview on AZKABAN. On mine it is MPEG-2 and 720x480. It plays back and encodes fine. I'll check out the other discs.


[Edit] Ok. I just found the one you're talking about on "Goblet of Fire" -- on my system the audio is off even on the (ripped) original when I play it back with Media Player. That wouldn't be a BD-RB issue... I'd guess the audio issue simply gets "passed through" during the encode. BTW: WMV11 doesn't crash on it, and at least on the Region A disc it isn't hybrid.

[Edit again] It looks like it isn't hybrid, but is pulldown. It appears that Media Player seems to be ignoring the pulldown flags, and that's what is causing the audio issue. I'd guess your frame server is doing the same.

Thanks for looking into that for me.

[canadian guy]

hi im just wondering,,i have installed all the programs needed to run BDRB,,when i click on source folder,,cannot find any bluray files,,even in the stream folder,,no files show up,,did i miss something,,cheers

[HWK]

No, You just need to point to root folder of your blu-ray source.

Root folder will have Certificate and Stream folder. There may be additional folder in it.

[MikeyBK]

No, You just need to point to root folder of your blu-ray source.

Root folder will have Certificate and Stream folder. There may be additional folder in it.

I know that you meant that they had to point BD-RB to the Volume folder, which contains the BDMV and Certificate sub folders.
The Streams folder is in the BDMV folder.

Just load the folder that is the name of the movie.