BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[gonca]

@jdobbs
New version still gives error on muxing imported DVD titles with DTS audio.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
New version still gives error on muxing imported DVD titles with DTS audio. Hmm... I thought I'd found it, but never did pickup a DVD with DTS for verifying it. You'd think that with the bookshelves full of DVDs I have it wouldn't be that hard. I guess I'll have to give it some more attention.

[gonca]

@jdobbs
If you need more information or want me to do any testing let me know. Seems you have a drought of DTS audio DVD's while I have a flood.:)

[colinhunt]

Preliminary reports, more info available if needed.

0.43.01 (DGDecNV): UK version of Farscape Season 1 Disc 1: Movie-only backup: source split into several m2ts files: audio sync clearly off by the start of 2nd episode. Nothing about errors or problems in .LOG or .INF. Re-running the job now on 0.43.04.

0.43.04 (DGDecNV): Japanimation title Durarara, Disc 1: Movie-only backup: source split into several m2ts files: english subtitles disappear in the middle of episode 2. Nothing about errors or problems in .LOG or .INF. Re-running the job now on a different PC to see if my dual-Xeon is playing silly buggers again.

edit: Finished encode on another PC of Durarara disc 1. Subs disappear at the same point in episode 2. I also played the .m2ts on the latest MPC-HC and get this, it crashes at the point where PowerDVD and TMT stop displaying subs.

update: Farscape Season 1 Disc 1 Movie-only backup on 0.43.04: audio sync still clearly off by the beginning of episode 2. Nothing to denote a problem in .LOG or .INF.

MediaInfo for source episode 2:
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Stream identifier : 0
ID : 0 (0x0)
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Count of audio streams : 2
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Audio_Format_WithHint_List : DTS / AC-3
Audio codecs : DTS-HD / AC3
Text_Format_WithHint_List : PGS
Text codecs : PGS
Complete name : S:\video\BD\Farscape S1D1\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Folder name : S:\video\BD\Farscape S1D1\BDMV\STREAM
File name : 00001
File extension : m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
Format/Extensions usually used : m2ts
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Codec : BDAV
Codec/Info : Blu-ray Video
Codec/Extensions usually used : m2ts
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Duration : 50mn 10s
Duration : 50mn 10s 50ms
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Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 21316349
Overall bit rate : 21.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
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Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 0-0
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
Commercial name : AVC
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Internet media type : video/H264
Codec ID : 27
Codec : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
Codec profile : High@L4.1
Codec settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Codec settings, CABAC : Yes
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 4
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Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Interlacement : PPF (<- Ehh?)
Interlacement : Progressive
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Commercial name : DTS
Format profile : MA / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Codec : DTS-HD
Duration : 3009333
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Duration : 50mn 9s
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Channel positions : Front: L R
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Delay : 1h 9mn 59s 792ms
Delay : 1h 9mn
Delay : 01:09:59.792
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Text
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Codec : PGS
Delay : 4204296.167
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[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
New version still gives error on muxing imported DVD titles with DTS audio.Check your PM. I sent you a link to a test version. Let me know if it fixes the DTS import problem.

[gonca]

@ jdobbs
Problem solved.
Thank you.

[Nico8583]

Thanks for the new release :)
No change for angle detection ?

[jdobbs]

Thanks for the new release :)
No change for angle detection ? I've tested it on every source I can find with angles -- and it works correctly for me. If you can point out an example of where it works incorrectly on a disc that is available in the US I'll be happy to pick it up.

[Nico8583]

I can't send you playlist files of the original bluray ? Is it necessary to have full disc to test angle detection ?

[BlackWolf]

I hate to do this after posting v0.43.03.......
- Corrected an issue in which import of DVD PGCs
that have cells out-of-order are not assembled
into the pseudo BD M2TS correctly.


I experienced a Run-time Error '6' Overflow when attempting too import the DVD: The Bridge on the River Kwai which I believe has the issue you corrected above. The log is as follows:

[11:28:58] Importing DVD: BRIDGE_ON_THE_RIVER_KWAI
- Importing DVD title [1 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [2 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [3 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
----------------------
[11:35:29] Importing DVD: BRIDGE_ON_THE_RIVER_KWA
- Importing DVD title [1 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [2 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [3 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
The first import was directly from the DVD through anydvd and the second was from files ripped from the hard drive. PC is windows 7 x64.

Thank you for the for the updates!

[jdobbs]

I experienced a Run-time Error '6' Overflow when attempting too import the DVD: The Bridge on the River Kwai which I believe has the issue you corrected above. The log is as follows:

[11:28:58] Importing DVD: BRIDGE_ON_THE_RIVER_KWAI
- Importing DVD title [1 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [2 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [3 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
----------------------
[11:35:29] Importing DVD: BRIDGE_ON_THE_RIVER_KWA
- Importing DVD title [1 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [2 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Multiplexing audio/video/subtitles...
- Importing DVD title [3 of 4]
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
The first import was directly from the DVD through anydvd and the second was from files ripped from the hard drive. PC is windows 7 x64.

Thank you for the for the updates!I'm snowed in today (one of the disadvantages of mountain living), but I'll see if I can find that disc tomorrow.

[sparkyar]

why ffdshow x64 doesnt work with VC1 but it works with h264?

[jdobbs]

why ffdshow x64 doesnt work with VC1 but it works with h264? I don't see the connection to this thread. Please stay on topic. That question would be better suited to an FFDSHOW forum. By the way, I only accept BD-RB bug reports when the helper apps versions listed in the first post of this thread are in use (which would be the 32 bit version of FFDSHOW, r4422). Using other versions may or may not work correctly.

[sparkyar]

I don't see the connection to this thread. Please stay on topic. That question would be better suited to an FFDSHOW forum. By the way, I only accept BD-RB bug reports when the helper apps versions listed in the first post of this thread are in use (which would be the 32 bit version of FFDSHOW, r4422). Using other versions may or may not work correctly.

yeah, I always use the 32b version of ffdshow, but Ive made a fresh install of win7 in my second rig and tried ffdshow x64 and it worked better decoding some vids, so I just wanted to know if the problem with decoding VC1 for bdrebuilder was related to ffdshow x64 or the way bdrebuilder receives the data from ffdshow x64. Sorry, I know its not a bug, just being curious.

[jdobbs]

yeah, I always use the 32b version of ffdshow, but Ive made a fresh install of win7 in my second rig and tried ffdshow x64 and it worked better decoding some vids, so I just wanted to know if the problem with decoding VC1 for bdrebuilder was related to ffdshow x64 or the way bdrebuilder receives the data from ffdshow x64. Sorry, I know its not a bug, just being curious. It's probably because the driver for decoding wmv (VC-1) was written by MS and is 32 bit. I can't imagine why ffdshow x64 "worked better decoding some vids" since it is essentially the same code, just compiled differently.

[jfcarbel]

Trying to create an alternate output as MKV with 1280x720 with DTS-core, but not having any success. Is there a way to do this?

I only see option for 1920x1080 MKV with intact audio.

[jdobbs]

Trying to create an alternate output as MKV with 1280x720 with DTS-core, but not having any success. Is there a way to do this?

I only see option for 1920x1080 MKV with intact audio. You can create your own output parameters just by editing the ALTERNATE.TXT file located in the MISC folder under the installation path. But, if you choose intact audio and you do not have "KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1" set (a hidden option), you will get the core. The default is core-only.

Frankly, though, I recommend reencoding to AC3 at 640Kbs. It is smaller than DTS and Dolby's double-blind tests show that at that bitrate it is indistinguishable from the original.

[jfcarbel]

You can create your own output parameters just by editing the ALTERNATE.TXT file located in the MISC folder under the installation path. But, if you choose intact audio and you do not have "KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1" set (a hidden option), you will get the core. The default is core-only.

Frankly, though, I recommend reencoding to AC3 at 640Kbs. It is smaller than DTS and Dolby's double-blind tests show that at that bitrate it is indistinguishable from the original.

Thanks, I did not know about alternate.txt
I added the needed options.

I agree about the AC3 as I have also read that blind test between lossless and 640 DD or DTS 1.5 are indistinguishable. However, I think some people say they can hear difference of 640 DD vs DTS 1.5 but I think I read that its just because DTS opens up the low end some more to give it more boomy sound.

I also read that at 16000 bitrate is sweet spot for where video becomes indistinguishable. Course, I use a CRF mode at 17 or 18 so bitrate settings in alternate are meaningless.

Going to be viewing these on a WD Live Plus media player and I believe they have a maximum video bitrate, but not sure what specs are.

I also not sure my eyes would notice difference from 1080p or 720p and I believe I read that 720p really is not so much about file size then it is about bitrate so it might be a better suited choice for my WD Live.

Would you say that its safe to auto crop black borders on all content?

[colinhunt]

Bumped into a peculiar issue, this time on a Full Backup (0.43.04) of The Imposter (UK import). Once you've selected Play movie in Main menu, the distributor logo is shown, but instead of 4 seconds it stays on-screen for a full minute. It's then followed by a studio logo and the movie which plays without problems. I'll post log, inf and MediaInfo data a bit later.

Wow, this is pretty weird. MPC-HC reports the distributor logo has a running time of 29 seconds. However, MPC-HC plays only the first 4 seconds of it, exactly like it would play on the original Blu-ray, then skips to the end of the file. Windows meanwhile says the .m2ts has a length of 00:01:00. Here's the MediaInfo of the original file:

General
Count : 280
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
ID : 0 (0x0)
Count of video streams : 1
Count of audio streams : 3
Codecs Video : AVC
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : PCM / DTS / PCM
Audio codecs : PCM / DTS-HD / PCM
Complete name : S:\video\BD\The Imposter\BDMV\STREAM\00015.m2ts
Folder name : S:\video\BD\The Imposter\BDMV\STREAM
File name : 00015
File extension : m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
Format/Extensions usually used : m2ts
Commercial name : BDAV
Codec/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 15 MiB
File size : 15.16 MiB
Duration : 60659.923333
Duration : 1mn 0s 660ms
Duration : 00:01:00.660
Overall bit rate mode : VBR
Overall bit rate : 2 095 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48000000

Video
Count : 256
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format/Url : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
Commercial name : AVC
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=24
Internet media type : video/H264
Codec ID : 27
Codec : AVC
Duration : 4167
Duration : 4s 167ms
Duration : 00:00:04.167
Bit rate mode : VBR
Maximum bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Pixel aspect ratio : 1.000
Display aspect ratio : 1.778
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Frame count : 100
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Interlacement : PPF
Interlacement : Progressive
Delay : 10mn 0s 0ms
Delay, origin : Container
Buffer size : 29999616 / 29999616

Audio #1
Count : 218
Count of stream of this kind : 3
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 0
Stream identifier : 1
StreamOrder : 0-1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings : Big / Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Codec : PCM
Duration : 1000
Duration : 1s 0ms
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 2 304 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Channel positions : 2/0/0.0
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Delay : 600000.000
Delay : 10mn 0s
Delay : 00:10:00.000
Delay, origin : Container
Delay relative to video : 0
Video0 delay : 0
Stream size : 288000
Stream size : 281 KiB (2%)

Audio #2
Count : 218
Count of stream of this kind : 3
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 1
Stream identifier : 2
StreamOrder : 0-2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format profile : MA / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Codec : DTS-HD
Duration : 59s 989ms
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Channel positions : 3/2/0.1
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Samples count : 2879472
Frame count : 1875
Bit depth : 24
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Delay : 10mn 0s
Delay, origin : Container
Delay relative to video : 0
Video0 delay : 0

Audio #3
Count : 218
Count of stream of this kind : 3
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 2
Stream identifier : 3
StreamOrder : 0-3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings : Big / Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Codec/Family : PCM
Duration : 1s 0ms
Duration : 00:00:01.000
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 2 304 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Channel positions : 2/0/0.0
Sampling rate : 48000
Resolution : 24
Delay : 600000.000
Delay : 10mn 0s
Delay, origin : Container
Delay relative to video : 0
Video0 delay : 0
Proportion of this stream : 0.01811

[omegaman7]

Would you say that its safe to auto crop black borders on all content?

I wouldn't do that. That feature is unpredictable. You'll get mixed results. That's certainly been my experience with it.

And my player doesn't display video properly (depending on the aspect ratio), when the black has been removed.

[colinhunt]

Source: Fitzcarraldo (German edition)
Job: Import single .m2ts, Alternate Output mode to MKV 1080p AC3 stereo
Source file spec: 1080p 23.976fps, DTS-HD MA stereo
Paste from .log:

[23:18:25] Importing M2TS: 00020
- Preparing M2TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Warning: Framerate [23,976fps] not BD compliant.
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[23:18:45] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[03.10.13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.04 (beta)
[23:18:56] Source: 00020_00000
- Input BD size: 0,28 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:03:00.173]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 192Kbs AC3
- Output folder: F:\BDRB_OUTPUT\
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled (--tune film only)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:19:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:19:01] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [23:19:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [23:19:09] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Error: Video framerate is illegal/unknown.
[23:19:09] - Failed video encode, aborted

[colinhunt]

Update on Farscape S1D1 (UK edition): audio sync is fine in the Full Backup. This applies to both single episodes and Play All menu selections. Odd, how doing a movie-only backup using the same Play All playlist results in audio sync slipping.

[jdobbs]

Update on Farscape S1D1 (UK edition): audio sync is fine in the Full Backup. This applies to both single episodes and Play All menu selections. Odd, how doing a movie-only backup using the same Play All playlist results in audio sync slipping. You sure seem to have a lot of problems. I'm doing 4-5 discs a day in testing and never run into any of these issues. Are you sure you are configured correctly with the versions I posted?

[jdobbs]

Thanks, I did not know about alternate.txt
I added the needed options.

I agree about the AC3 as I have also read that blind test between lossless and 640 DD or DTS 1.5 are indistinguishable. However, I think some people say they can hear difference of 640 DD vs DTS 1.5 but I think I read that its just because DTS opens up the low end some more to give it more boomy sound.

I also read that at 16000 bitrate is sweet spot for where video becomes indistinguishable. Course, I use a CRF mode at 17 or 18 so bitrate settings in alternate are meaningless.

Going to be viewing these on a WD Live Plus media player and I believe they have a maximum video bitrate, but not sure what specs are.

I also not sure my eyes would notice difference from 1080p or 720p and I believe I read that 720p really is not so much about file size then it is about bitrate so it might be a better suited choice for my WD Live.

Would you say that its safe to auto crop black borders on all content? Yeah, some people do say they hear a difference. But people also say they see bigfoot. I believe in science and engineering -- and the people who say they hear a difference would fail in the double-blind.

There can't be a fixed bitrate for video that means anything. It all depends on the complexity of the source.

I think the autocrop plugin is a little buggy...

[colinhunt]

You sure seem to have a lot of problems.
Yeah. I guess that's why I do bug hunting for a living; I'm a bug-magnet.

Are you sure you are configured correctly with the versions I posted?
Yup. Ran Inspect on all three PCs to make sure only yesterday. Nothing but OKs and I use only the versions posted on page 1.

[HatchetMan]

I was trying to do Galapagos with v43.01b and it fails, is this here uncommon?

Video
ID : 1
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L3
Codec ID : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Duration : 2h 26mn
Bit rate : 19.3 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.310
Stream size : 19.8 GiB (96%)
Language : English

Still failing -

----------------------
[03/11/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.04 (beta)
[04:44:43] Source: GALAPAGOS_US_00005
- Input BD size: 21.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:52.937]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[04:44:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [04:44:43] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 3)
- [04:44:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [04:54:21] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 88,260 frames
- [04:54:21] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
- [07:21:10] Video Encode complete
- [07:21:10] Processing audio tracks
- [07:21:10] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 3)
- [07:21:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [07:26:32] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 88,052 frames
- [07:26:32] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.43.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4422, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[07:26:33] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jdobbs]

@HatchetMan

1. Is it only that disc, or are others failing as well?
2. Are you overclocked? Generally when X264 fails that's the issue. Try slowing down and see if it completes.
3. If you aren't overclocked, try opening VID_00001.AVS with MPC (included in the tools folder) and see if it plays.
4. Try reinstalling FFDSHOW, AVISYNTH, and HAALI, sometimes other apps overwrite them or intercept them.
5. Have you tried using DirectShowSource() instead of LAVF?

[HatchetMan]

@HatchetMan

1. Is it only that disc, or are others failing as well?
2. Are you overclocked? Generally when X264 fails that's the issue. Try slowing down and see if it completes.
3. If you aren't overclocked, try opening VID_00001.AVS with MPC (included in the tools folder) and see if it plays.
4. Try reinstalling FFDSHOW, AVISYNTH, and HAALI, sometimes other apps overwrite them or intercept them.
5. Have you tried using DirectShowSource() instead of LAVF?

1. Consistently, this title and Green Lantern. I have re-ripped them both several times.
2. Have never overclocked this AMD 1100T
3. It was in batch mode and got overwritten, I'll try it again with it as my last queued item so I can play it back.
4. Worth trying too, although I have not installed anything else, not even LAV, but Handbrake is installed and handled the files A-OK. BTW, is it OK to have LAV installed on a machine running BD-RB, conflicts? I have LAV on my HTPC and have grown fond of it :)
5. Yes. I dunno, I have never received these errors with folder or iso outputs, but mkv seems to be another story...
6. Thanks!

[jdobbs]

1. Consistently, this title and Green Lantern. I have re-ripped them both several times.
2. Have never overclocked this AMD 1100T
3. It was in batch mode and got overwritten, I'll try it again with it as my last queued item so I can play it back.
4. Worth trying too, although I have not installed anything else, not even LAV, but Handbrake is installed and handled the files A-OK. BTW, is it OK to have LAV installed on a machine running BD-RB, conflicts? I have LAV on my HTPC and have grown fond of it :)
5. Yes. I dunno, I have never received these errors with folder or iso outputs, but mkv seems to be another story...
6. Thanks!LAV should have no impact that I can imagine. The LAVF decoding that is used by X264 is actually internal to that program (linked in during the build), so it shouldn't be affected.

[stevejl]

I installed ver 4304 and ran inspect.exe. The report said that all requirements were ok. Norton 360 did not like bdrb.exe and deleted it. I changed the settings to allow bdrb to run. I then re-extracted the BD_Rebuilder files. I clicked on the bdrb.exe and immediately got the message that BD Rebuilder has encountered a problem and needs to close. The program did not even startup on the screen. What might I have on my computer that would conflict with BD-Rebuilder? I have used this program for at least 2.5 years and never had this problem.

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3326], Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.43.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[gonca]

Right click on BDRB, then click on run as administrator. Also try disabling norton, temporarily, and see if that helps.

[Capsbackup]

I have a Hauppauge HD PVR 1212 that I use to capture/record HD tv shows to .ts format per below media info specs:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : C:\BD BACKUPS\Spartacus Season 3\Spartacus S3 E1.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 5.04 GiB
Duration : 50mn 47s
Overall bit rate : 14.2 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 50mn 47s
Bit rate : 12.8 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.207
Stream size : 4.55 GiB (90%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 50mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 139 MiB (3%)
Language : English

When I try to import this file into BD-RB I get this: ( BD-RB says 29.94fps, not 29.97fps) :confused:

----------------------
[06:56:06] Importing TS: SPARTACUS_S3_E1
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Warning: Framerate [29.94fps] not BD compliant.
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[07:00:29] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[03/13/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.04 (beta)
[07:00:47] Source: SPARTACUS_S3_E1_00000
- Input BD size: 5.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:50:50.367]
- Target BD size: 4.10 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:00:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:00:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [07:00:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [07:04:06] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Error: Video framerate is illegal/unknown.
[07:04:06] - Failed video encode, aborted

So BD-RB cannot process this file!

I would not even need to reencode the file except when I burn the original to a Blu-ray disc for playback on my standalone Sony S360, I get a very stuttery, combing interlaced result.
I thought interlaced 29.97fps was BD compliant, but perhaps the field order is incorrect, recorded and reported as TFF.

Is there a way, with BD-RB, to only change the field order to BFF, but keep the content interlaced?
If not, can I change the field order and deinterlace to make this a watchable recording? ( I can do this with MeGui :o )

[jdobbs]

I installed ver 4304 and ran inspect.exe. The report said that all requirements were ok. Norton 360 did not like bdrb.exe and deleted it. I changed the settings to allow bdrb to run. I then re-extracted the BD_Rebuilder files. I clicked on the bdrb.exe and immediately got the message that BD Rebuilder has encountered a problem and needs to close. The program did not even startup on the screen. What might I have on my computer that would conflict with BD-Rebuilder? I have used this program for at least 2.5 years and never had this problem.

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3326], Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.43.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
Call Norton and tell them to fix their software

[colinhunt]

Finally had time to test Gunslinger Girl S2 D1 on 0.43.04. Previous versions of BD-RB created backups with out-of-sync audio. On 0.43.04, movie-only backup, audio was perfectly synced with image and subs, but for the first episode only. It was the same thing with Farscape S1D1 movie-only backup.

Since Farscape audio sync was spot on in a Full Backup, I'm now running a Full Backup of Gunslinger Girl S2 D1 to see if audio sync issues disappear.

update: audio sync is fine on the Full Backup of Gunslinger Girl S2 D1.

[steveg32]

@jdobbs:

Resulting .iso file using Quick-Play Backup will not playback and error message states it is an unsupported format. Please see all attached. Had no issues using Edit Mode Backup. Mahalo brah.

Update: Btw, for what it's worth, No CERTIFICATE folder was created. Only the BDMV folder was created.

[Capsbackup]

I have a Hauppauge HD PVR 1212 that I use to capture/record HD tv shows to .ts format per below media info specs:

General
ID : 1
Complete name : C:\BD BACKUPS\Spartacus Season 3\Spartacus S3 E1.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 5.04 GiB
Duration : 50mn 47s
Overall bit rate : 14.2 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 50mn 47s
Bit rate : 12.8 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.207
Stream size : 4.55 GiB (90%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 50mn 47s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Stream size : 139 MiB (3%)
Language : English

When I try to import this file into BD-RB I get this: ( BD-RB says 29.94fps, not 29.97fps) :confused:

----------------------
[06:56:06] Importing TS: SPARTACUS_S3_E1
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Warning: Framerate [29.94fps] not BD compliant.
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[07:00:29] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[03/13/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.04 (beta)
[07:00:47] Source: SPARTACUS_S3_E1_00000
- Input BD size: 5.15 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:50:50.367]
- Target BD size: 4.10 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:00:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:00:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [07:00:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [07:04:06] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Error: Video framerate is illegal/unknown.
[07:04:06] - Failed video encode, aborted

So BD-RB cannot process this file!

I would not even need to reencode the file except when I burn the original to a Blu-ray disc for playback on my standalone Sony S360, I get a very stuttery, combing interlaced result.
I thought interlaced 29.97fps was BD compliant, but perhaps the field order is incorrect, recorded and reported as TFF.

Is there a way, with BD-RB, to only change the field order to BFF, but keep the content interlaced?
If not, can I change the field order and deinterlace to make this a watchable recording? ( I can do this with MeGui :o )

Tested on another capture, same results. Not sure why BD-RB sees source framerate different from tsMuxeR as well as dgavcdec. :confused:

----------------------
[07:32:56] Importing TS: GREYS_ANATOMY_S9_E17
- Preparing TS for processing...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Warning: Framerate [29.94fps] not BD compliant.
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[07:35:53] Video import completed successfully.
----------------------
[03/15/13] BD Rebuilder v0.43.04 (beta)
[07:36:10] Source: GREYS_ANATOMY_S9_E17_00000
- Input BD size: 4.17 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:41:12.010]
- Target BD size: 4.10 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[07:36:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:36:10] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [07:36:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [07:38:02] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Error: Video framerate is illegal/unknown.
[07:38:02] - Failed video encode, aborted

[setarip_old]

@Capsbackup

Hi!

1) If you load the captured .TS file into tsMuxeR, is it indicated by tsMuxeR to be 29.970 or 29.94?

2) If tsMuxeR shows it as 29.94, can tsMuxeR be used to change it to 29.970 (and, perhaps, changing it from.TS to .M2TS, if necessary)?

[Capsbackup]

@Capsbackup

Hi!

1) If you load the captured .TS file into tsMuxeR, is it indicated by tsMuxeR to be 29.970 or 29.94?

2) If tsMuxeR shows it as 29.94, can tsMuxeR be used to change it to 29.970 (and, perhaps, changing it from.TS to .M2TS, if necessary)?

tsMuxeR reports it as 1920:1080i, Frame Rate: 29.97.
Same for dgavc and MediaInfo.
Only BD-RB reports 29.94fps.

[jdobbs]

tsMuxeR reports it as 1920:1080i, Frame Rate: 29.97.
Same for dgavc and MediaInfo.
Only BD-RB reports 29.94fps.
BD-RB gets the rate from the codes in the CLPI. There is no code for 29.94... There's a 59.94 -- but that is only 1280x720. When you are importing, BD-RB gets the frame rate from Mediainfo.

[Capsbackup]

BD-RB gets the rate from the codes in the CLPI. There is no code for 29.94... There's a 59.94 -- but that is only 1280x720. When you are importing, BD-RB gets the frame rate from Mediainfo.

But MediaInfo reports it as 29.970 fps, as I posted in the log above from my previous post. :(

[KarstenS]

Anybody else using TMT?

I've got the problem, that the new quickplay feature produces movies, that not play under TMT. I've tested with TMT5 and 6.

It tries to load, the screen turns black and than the player hangs completely. I've to close TMT with taskmanager to get out.

Actually I had converted 2 movies using this quickplay feature and both do have this issue (White Lion, Magic Silver).

[colinhunt]

jdobbs, how does BD-RB extract and mux subtitles? I'm asking because of the last 7 titles I've done on v0.43.04, subtitles disappear in the middle of a title on 5 of them. I've managed to fix each one by extracting subs from the original with MeGUI (which uses eac3to) and re-muxing the subs + title with multiAVCHD.

All 5 titles are japanime discs (but so were the 2 that came out OK) which leads me to believe this is at least partly caused by how the original is put together in authoring. On the other hand, the original plays perfectly in PDVD11 while BD-RB output either A) simply loses the subtitles but plays fine otherwise or B) crashes PDVD11 and MPC-HC at the very same moment the subtitles are lost. I don't see anything out of the ordinary in .LOG or .INF files, either.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, how does BD-RB extract and mux subtitles? I'm asking because of the last 7 titles I've done on v0.43.04, subtitles disappear in the middle of a title on 5 of them. I've managed to fix each one by extracting subs from the original with MeGUI (which uses eac3to) and re-muxing the subs + title with multiAVCHD.

All 5 titles are japanime discs (but so were the 2 that came out OK) which leads me to believe this is at least partly caused by how the original is put together in authoring. On the other hand, the original plays perfectly in PDVD11 while BD-RB output either A) simply loses the subtitles but plays fine otherwise or B) crashes PDVD11 and MPC-HC at the very same moment the subtitles are lost. I don't see anything out of the ordinary in .LOG or .INF files, either.
It uses TSMUXER for muxing and demuxing. It hasn't changed in that regard since the first release, so it couldn't be anything related to that release.

[colinhunt]

It uses TSMUXER for muxing and demuxing.
I thought it might. OK... so I could run TSMUXER as a stand-alone and see how it likes the playlists that came out from BD-RB with disappearing or crash-inducing subs.

When BD-RB calls TSMUXER during the muxing phase, does it enable insertSEI and contSPS for H.264 streams?

update: Whoa!

Step #1: Loaded a playlist from original in TSMUXER, disabled two unnecessary audio tracks (like I did on BD-RB run) and demuxed video, Dolby TrueHD audio and English subs to HDD without errors.

Step #2: Closed down and restarted TSMUXER, dropped in first video, then audio and finally subs. Remuxed to Blu-ray, again without errors. Output crashes both PowerDVD 11 and MPC-HC, at the same point as the earlier BD-RB output did. It's actually the very first subtitle bitmap of the .SUP which crashes both players.

Loaded the original demuxed English subs from step #1 into SubtitleEdit. I can scroll through and read all subtitle bitmaps, no corruptions or errors.

Opened the original playlist from step #1 in MPC-HC: movie plays with English subs, no crashing.

... OK, now it's getting weird. Opened the playlist from TSMUXER output in TSMUXER, demuxed the English subs and opened the .SUP in SubtitleEdit... and the file's fine. No errors or corruption. Huh?

Addendum: opened the original .SUP from step #1 in BDSup2Sub. The log reads:

#> 1 (00:00:17.643)
ERROR: PG missing at index 0x00011770

Detected 0 forced captions.
WARNING: missing end time of frame 1 -> fixed
Decoding frame 1/1 at offset 0x000001b4


BDSup2Sub reads only the first of 1333 subtitle images and renders on-screen only part of the image. The subtitle image is quite large as it's got one line of text at the top of the screen and another at the bottom of the screen. BDSup2Sub displays only the line at the bottom of the screen.

RESULT: demuxed English subs from the original with eac3to and opened the resulting .SUP in BDSup2Sub. It read all 1333 subtitle images instead of only the first one. In other words, it looks like TSMUXER messed up in step #1 by creating a somehow faulty .SUP.

More data: opened the eac3to-demuxed .SUP in SubtitleEdit. Duration for the first subtitle is slightly over 1 second. Opened the TSMUXER-demuxed .SUP and the duration of the first subtitle is 20+ seconds and marked in red by SubtitleEdit.

[laserfan]

The only trouble I have ever had with tsMuxeR has been related to subtitles (presumably corrupt in some way) and these have introduced a variety of problems that tsMuxeR fails to identify report to the user. I've thankfully managed to guess at "subtitle!" as the problem for the wierdness and have been right 100% of the time.

[Nico8583]

No news about angle on Ice Age 4 FR ? :)

[jdobbs]

@steveg32

I'm running "Ice Age, Continental Drift" as a Quick-Play backup with ISO output right now. I'll let you know how it comes out.

[jdobbs]

@Capsbackup

Any way you can create a very short TS file that shows as 29.94fps and send it to me? From looking at the code, I can't see how it can happen unless the source is shown by MediaInfo as that rate...

[jdobbs]

No news about angle on Ice Age 4 FR ? :)Been traveling for the last week. Hopefully I'll be able to check it out some time this week.

[Capsbackup]

@Capsbackup

Any way you can create a very short TS file that shows as 29.94fps and send it to me? From looking at the code, I can't see how it can happen unless the source is shown by MediaInfo as that rate...

Here is the link to one. Not sure why link will not "highlight". :confused:
I appreciate your looking into this! :)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/y4ra2m