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DarWun
11th February 2009, 06:00
beat u to it (i guess spending $800 on new i7 already payed off:D).
anyways, JD i just finished layercake,mo, bd-bd5 with 18.08 and it works perfectly on my ps3. if u need any more info lmk.
Great job and thanks for taking time to develop it.
Not being competitive or anything, but I think I beat you to it by a titch :p Although I cheated a bit by doing a rebuild using a WORKFILES directory created by a previous version.

I kid, I kid. Good to know that the latest version creates working disks on the PS3 for a full encode/rebuild to BD9.

GaPony
11th February 2009, 06:49
I ran Pride & Glory through beta 18.08 to a Movie Only BD9. This is a movie that has been problematic for the PS3 from the beginning. This time, even with using the fastest (Good) setting, there was no skipping, or freezing and the PQ is very good. The audio syncs up perfectly. I don't know what you changed, but you apparently found whatever the problem was.

I look forward to trying several more movies.

Log:

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[19:26:23] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: PRIDE_AND_GLORY
- Input BD size: 19.66 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:09.426]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:26:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:31:00] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
[22:30:21]PHASE ONE complete
[22:30:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:30:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:33:36] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:33:36]JOB: PRIDE_AND_GLORY completed.

MikeyBK
11th February 2009, 07:37
I ran Pride & Glory through beta 18.08 to a Movie Only BD9. This is a movie that has been problematic for the PS3 from the beginning. This time, even with using the fastest (Good) setting, there was no skipping, or freezing and the PQ is very good. The audio syncs up perfectly. I don't know what you changed, but you apparently found whatever the problem was.

I look forward to trying several more movies.

Log:

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[19:26:23] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: PRIDE_AND_GLORY
- Input BD size: 19.66 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:09.426]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:26:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:31:00] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
[22:30:21]PHASE ONE complete
[22:30:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:30:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:33:36] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:33:36]JOB: PRIDE_AND_GLORY completed.

Good to hear Ga. I did that title last night, but using 0.17.13 since 0.18.07 still had the PS3 dislike :p

Anyways... strange occurrence on this title, BD-RB output it without leaving a clpi file, thus it wouldn't play. And I couldn't save this encoding because TSMuxer gave a bit stream error and wouldn't output any clpi files neither??? Odd.... TSMuxer also keeps seeing this m2ts (or the AVS.264 file in the workfiles folder) as 1920 x 1084??

Anyways, I'm glad that 0.18.8 was successful, on this title as well as resolving the PS3 incompatibility.
Cheers to you JD, for nipping this PS3 issue in the bud.... even though it was more probably an issue with the PS3 rather than 0.18.07...

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 11:22
Interesting issue. If you remux using an M2TS as source that was created by TSMUXER, you get the PS3 skip. If you use the exact same original .264 file directly, though, it works ok.

So for those who might be working similar issues (outside of BD-RB): remember not to use TSMUXER for anything but first generation muxes.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 11:25
I forgot I still had the WORKFILES directory for a failed Max Payne movie only BD9 encode. BD-Rebuilder 18.08 asked me if I wanted to continue, and I said yes. The rebuilt disk plays back fine in the PS3.

I will still do a full encode overnight to see if any other problems arise. Cool, thanks. The fix was only related to the remux -- so reencoding shouldn't matter.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 11:26
beat u to it (i guess spending $800 on new i7 already payed off:D).
anyways, JD i just finished layercake,mo, bd-bd5 with 18.08 and it works perfectly on my ps3. if u need any more info lmk.
Great job and thanks for taking time to develop it. Man! I gotta' get me one of those i7s.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 11:54
Tried 0.18.8 on Eagle Eye. Movie only backup to BD25. It still fails with the ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 5 error.

log:
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[19:42:33] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: EAGLE_EYE_AC
- Input BD size: 31.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:57:35.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:42:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:52:20] ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 5
[19:52:25] - Failed to retrieve audio, abortedCan you capture a listing of your working directory immediately after this happens and post it? It appears that a "rename" system call is saying the output file already exists. I'd like to see what is there.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 12:03
Hello there, I did a movie only back-up for Die Hard 4 (DIE_HARD_4_0_F3_DVD.ISO) ! Good Job. Works like a charme.

When I tried to do "The day after tomorrow" i ran into trouble. (older version and v0.18.8 (beta))

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[20:40:41] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: DAT_F2
- Input BD size: 29,76 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:03:40.412]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:40:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:00:28] - Failed video encode, aborted

I installed and changed no settings. Stream reports: VID_00001 MPEG-4 AVC, 1080p, 23.976fps, 30.469,63.

I tried the original disk (AnyDVD HD enabled) and a ripped unprotected iso. Am i missing something ? I did so I edited this post and reported in 1132.

Thanks. I assume you installed FFDSHOW -- open the video codec configuration and make sure you have AVC decoding enabled.

mmace
11th February 2009, 13:19
My "Failed to retrieve audio (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247396#post1247396)" problem is non existent in the new version, cheers!

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 13:57
My "Failed to retrieve audio (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247396#post1247396)" problem is non existent in the new version, cheers! Great.

Binnugsai
11th February 2009, 14:42
Hi,

I try to encoded Shooter with BD25 as choice and i have this kind of message at the beginning when i push Backup.

Did i make something wrong ?

flytox
11th February 2009, 15:13
My "Failed to retrieve audio (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1247396#post1247396)" problem is non existent in the new version, cheers!
You're lucky, i can't figure it out whatever i try. It's frustrating.


[15:05:56] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: 61879766_HELLBOY
- Input BD size: 6,62 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:23:08.146]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[15:05:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:05:58] ExtractAudioSubs() 00013 4
[15:05:59] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted*

JD did you notice the input size, it happens with this movie which is mpeg2 HD (this have no link with the above problem).

[Status]
LABEL=61879766_HELLBOY
VERSION=v0.18.8 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=7109222400
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=7109222400
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=1.16668683202259
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0

It seems that bdrebuild is not detecting the good mpls in movie only mode, i mean with this movie.

rainfellow
11th February 2009, 15:15
OMFG!!!! I just tossed in my first disc done with BD-Rebuilder (movie only AVCHD) and I can clearly say it BLOWS AWAY my last way of doing it (RipBot264), both in speed (like 1 & 1/2 days to a few hours) and quality.

Keep up the excellent work JD!!! You are the sh.... well you know!!! :thanks:

I'm going to redo Wall-E since I did that one with my old method and see how it looks via BD-Rebuilder. I'll let you know once I get it done... have other stuff running at the moment.

Thanks again!!!!

jwjohnson
11th February 2009, 15:34
Can you capture a listing of your working directory immediately after this happens and post it? It appears that a "rename" system call is saying the output file already exists. I'd like to see what is there.

I tried again and got the same error.

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[07:11:56] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: EAGLE_EYE_AC
- Input BD size: 31.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:57:35.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[07:11:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:22:04] ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 5
[07:22:17] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Here is a screenshot of my Work Folder:

http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9430&stc=1&d=1234362772

marius1
11th February 2009, 16:10
is x264.exe crashing for anyone with the new version? Mine seems to be crashing consistently on the very first m2ts file....

pan07
11th February 2009, 16:28
is x264.exe crashing for anyone with the new version? Mine seems to be crashing consistently on the very first m2ts file....

mine too on 2 films incredible hulk and hancock i have noticed the x264.exe is smaller in this new one, not a clue if its supposed to be.

i replaced it with the one from a previous build and worked fine

Furiousflea
11th February 2009, 16:44
mine too on 2 films incredible hulk and hancock i have noticed the x264.exe is smaller in this new one, not a clue if its supposed to be.

i replaced it with the one from a previous build and worked fine

Crashing here too...

Just tried an encode of a converted HD DVD (Blade Runner Final Cut)...

I have a recoded DTS\3 commentry tracks\1080p VC1 in an m2ts output by TSMuxer with Bluray structure. Latest BD-Rebuilder after less than 1% in 1st pass (x264 crashes).

Previous version of BD-Rebuilder works fine

marius1
11th February 2009, 17:01
is x264.exe crashing for anyone with the new version? Mine seems to be crashing consistently on the very first m2ts file....

I think I fixed my issue. I made two changes in ffdshow: 1) disabled coreavc and used libavcodec for x264, and 2) enabled vc-1 decoding. Not sure which change fixed it - I suspect the former. Perhaps the new x264.exe doesn't like coreavc? When I get some time later tonight I will revert one of the changes to see what did it for me.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 18:18
Crashing here too...

Just tried an encode of a converted HD DVD (Blade Runner Final Cut)...

I have a recoded DTS\3 commentry tracks\1080p VC1 in an m2ts output by TSMuxer with Bluray structure. Latest BD-Rebuilder after less than 1% in 1st pass (x264 crashes).

Previous version of BD-Rebuilder works fine I updated X264.EXE to r1109 (the previous release used r1082). There have been a lot of changes, you may want to step back to r1082 and see if it corrects it. The older version should be accessible through the ZIP file for BD-RB v0.18.7.

If you could run the LASTCMD.TXT command line from a DOS window, it would be very helpful to know what is happening so we can report it or fix it.

zakia
11th February 2009, 18:48
JD, any chance to keep DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD for BD-25GB settings in the future updates?
Sorry if this has been asked before... searched last few pages can't find the answer. :)

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 19:07
JD, any chance to keep DTS HD MA and Dolby TrueHD for BD-25GB settings in the future updates?
Sorry if this has been asked before... searched last few pages can't find the answer. :)Eventually. But right now I'm trying to limit variances in order to get past the fundamental bugs.

Furiousflea
11th February 2009, 20:18
I updated X264.EXE to r1109 (the previous release used r1082). There have been a lot of changes, you may want to step back to r1082 and see if it corrects it. The older version should be accessible through the ZIP file for BD-RB v0.18.7.

If you could run the LASTCMD.TXT command line from a DOS window, it would be very helpful to know what is happening so we can report it or fix it.

Will do, got the encode going on v0.18.7 right now and it's half way through so soon as that's done I'll post back.

Tried my first BD9 yesterday on my new S550. Amazing picture and sound compared to my WMV-HD rips played back on the Xbox 360.

I'm not touching WMV-HD ever again...Can't wait for some hardware streamer of Bluray structure to pop up, only benefit of WMVHD is you can plonk 'em on a NAS.

Anyways sorry to pollute this thread will post back as I said when done, fantastic work you're doing here even in its current state it's a joy to use.

MikeyBK
11th February 2009, 20:40
Ran into an issue when I did 'The Secret Life of Bees' last night... screenshots show how 0.18.8 default selected the first DTS-HD audio, and selected the longest (extended director's cut) movie playlist. What resulted was at least one full scene in which audio of another scene was playing while the video of this scene was playing.
It plays perfect thru the beginning and most of the end (hadn't checked every scene towards the end of the movie yet).
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1561/secretlifebees2qy8.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretlifebees2qy8.png)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7085/secretlifebees1fi1.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=secretlifebees1fi1.png)

Oh BTW, as you see in the log, this is a multi-m2ts seamless branching Bluray.
[23:28:56] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: SECRET_LIFE_OF_BEES
- Input BD size: 24.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:53:51.282]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:28:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:34:26] Reencoding: VID_00013 (1 of 21)
- [23:53:19] Reencoding: VID_00095 (2 of 21)
- [23:59:36] Reencoding: VID_00076 (3 of 21)
- [00:25:33] Reencoding: VID_00096 (4 of 21)
- [00:39:25] Reencoding: VID_00078 (5 of 21)
- [01:01:42] Reencoding: VID_00079 (6 of 21)
- [01:41:07] Reencoding: VID_00080 (7 of 21)
- [02:21:09] Reencoding: VID_00097 (8 of 21)
- [02:33:57] Reencoding: VID_00082 (9 of 21)
- [02:43:11] Reencoding: VID_00098 (10 of 21)
- [03:03:07] Reencoding: VID_00084 (11 of 21)
- [03:10:38] Reencoding: VID_00099 (12 of 21)
- [03:32:29] Reencoding: VID_00086 (13 of 21)
- [03:43:23] Reencoding: VID_00100 (14 of 21)
- [04:07:31] Reencoding: VID_00088 (15 of 21)
- [04:46:48] Reencoding: VID_00089 (16 of 21)
- [05:15:34] Reencoding: VID_00101 (17 of 21)
- [05:38:53] Reencoding: VID_00091 (18 of 21)
- [05:50:41] Reencoding: VID_00092 (19 of 21)
- [06:29:35] Reencoding: VID_00093 (20 of 21)
- [06:46:05] Reencoding: VID_00094 (21 of 21)
[06:55:41]PHASE ONE complete
[06:55:41]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:55:41] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[07:04:14] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[07:04:14]JOB: SECRET_LIFE_OF_BEES completed.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 20:43
I'm not touching WMV-HD ever again...Can't wait for some hardware streamer of Bluray structure to pop up, only benefit of WMVHD is you can plonk 'em on a NAS.You can always put ISO images on the NAS and mount them when needed if you use an HTPC. I'm hoping there will eventually be some new capabilities along those lines coming soon for local networks related to the Blu-ray's web enabling.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 20:49
Ran into an issue when I did 'The Secret Life of Bees' last night... screenshots show how 0.18.8 default selected the first DTS-HD audio, and selected the longest (extended director's cut) movie playlist. What resulted was at least one full scene in which audio of another scene was playing while the video of this scene was playing. That shouldn't have any impact at all. The selected audio PID should be consistent across all parts of the playlist. Are you saying that one of the component M2TS files didn't have the appropriate stream?

smnckl
11th February 2009, 20:54
@jdobbs

Have just started a rebuild using v01.18.08. Couldn't do this earlier because I had .07b running up till this morning.

Am rebuilding Hitman. Source is ripped to HDD using txMuxeR where I removed all extra subs, except for english.

Upon hitting the Backup button, it reads everything fine and then commences the phase one process which it completes in about 9 minutes.

Pass 1 then starts... and immediately jumps to Pass 2, tho the info at bottom of GUI shows Pass 1/2 (pls see attached jpg) and "Overall Progress" has jumped to over 50%.

Log files is

[13:18:33] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: HITMAN
- Input BD size: 15.80 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:14.644]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[13:18:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:27:03] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,157 Kbs
- [13:27:08] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:27:08] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2


INF file

[Status]
LABEL=HITMAN
VERSION=v0.18.8 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=16960598016
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=16960598016
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.489029700024464
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
PASS=2
[00001]
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=9157


INFO.INI

[Options]
framecount=135576
framerate=23.975986
width=1920
height=1080
bitrate=10772
trellis=1


Hope the info above helps troubleshooting. Will run another rebuild from the original with all subs in place after this run completes. Or, if it is possible to have multiple instances of BD-RE running(?), I can do just try with original source and abort after thie first few percent.

James

MikeyBK
11th February 2009, 20:56
That shouldn't have any impact at all. The selected audio PID should be consistent across all parts of the playlist. Are you saying that one of the component M2TS files didn't have the appropriate stream?


Appears to be so. I tried playing the m2ts files in the workfolder, but no audio... would have to remux all (or AVS.264 files) from that folder with the audio to see if it also has this issue...

BTW, I'm wondering if I was supposed to add 'both' instances of the DTS-HD audio with that extended playlist encode?? When I playback the original, it doesn't matter when I change the audio selection between that audio_1 or audio_3, they both play the same.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 21:00
@jdobbs

Have just started a rebuild using v01.18.08. Couldn't do this earlier because I had .07b running up till this morning.

Am rebuilding Hitman. Source is ripped to HDD using txMuxeR where I removed all extra subs, except for english.

Upon hitting the Backup button, it reads everything fine and then commences the phase one process which it completes in about 9 minutes.

Pass 1 then starts... and immediately jumps to Pass 2, tho the info at bottom of GUI shows Pass 1/2 (pls see attached jpg) and "Overall Progress" has jumped to over 50%.

Log files is

[13:18:33] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: HITMAN
- Input BD size: 15.80 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:14.644]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[13:18:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:27:03] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 9,157 Kbs
- [13:27:08] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [13:27:08] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2


INF file

[Status]
LABEL=HITMAN
VERSION=v0.18.8 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=16960598016
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=16960598016
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.489029700024464
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
PASS=2
[00001]
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=9157


INFO.INI

[Options]
framecount=135576
framerate=23.975986
width=1920
height=1080
bitrate=10772
trellis=1


Hope the info above helps troubleshooting. Will run another rebuild from the original with all subs in place after this run completes. Or, if it is possible to have multiple instances of BD-RE running(?), I can do just try with original source and abort after thie first few percent.

JamesLook in your BDREBUILDER.INI file. It sounds like you have manually selected one of the test mode encode quality settings rather than those on the menu.

MikeyBK
11th February 2009, 21:15
That shouldn't have any impact at all. The selected audio PID should be consistent across all parts of the playlist. Are you saying that one of the component M2TS files didn't have the appropriate stream?

Appears to be so. I tried playing the m2ts files in the workfolder, but no audio... would have to remux all (or AVS.264 files) from that folder with the audio to see if it also has this issue...

BTW, I'm wondering if I was supposed to add 'both' instances of the DTS-HD audio with that extended playlist encode?? When I playback the original, it doesn't matter when I change the audio selection between that audio_1 or audio_3, they both play the same.

Well I can now verify that indeed one of the m2ts files are the one that has the audio issue. M2ts VID 96 is the one that has the wrong audio throughout. It's only 3:15 seconds or so, and being that the extended and theatrical versions are 4:00 different, I'm guessing there might still be a :45 m2ts with similar issues??

Edit: I don't see any other m2ts files that short, althought there are smaller in size. I'll be remuxing all the m2ts files 'except' that VID_96 with the audio from the workfiles folder to see if it synchronizes.

smnckl
11th February 2009, 21:51
Look in your BDREBUILDER.INI file. It sounds like you have manually selected one of the test mode encode quality settings rather than those on the menu.

I doubt that but wouldn't be surprised that I had a senior moment... :p
Anyway, here's the BDREBUILDER.INI

[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
TARGET_SIZE=7910
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=1
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AVCHD=-
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=M:\HITMAN\
WORKING_PATH=D:\REBUILDS\


Comparing the INI from .07 vs .08, I see that the .07 does not have the ENCODE_QUALITY=5 parameter. Other than that, everything's the same.

Edit @ 1536 CST:
On looking back, I had left the Quality at "High" because it was marked as default in the Settings menu. I assume that the ENCODE_QUALITY=5 indicates that?

Edit @ 1539 CST:
The "FPS" was at around 12+ earlier but has since dropped to 11.53, and this speed has been - in my experience - somewhat the average for Pass 1 of the video encoding when the stats file is generated. Pass 2 speeds have been around 2+ to 5. Except when I tried it on my Lenovo T60 laptop when it was crawling at 0.1 :p

MikeyBK
11th February 2009, 22:14
As for 'The Secret Life of Bees'... I think that since is a bit more complicated thatn the usual Blurays, having both multiple-m2ts movie playlists and multiple main movie DTS_HD audios, and a extended version/theatrical version options on top of that... it is more up to the user to verify that they are selecting the correct audio to match up to the correct version of the movie.

The extended version and theatrical versions have several different m2ts files in their playlists. And their own DTS_HD audio stream for each as well. HD_Audio_3 is a couple hundred MBs larger than the HD_Audio_1.

Here's what I'm going to try JD, I'll be demuxing the DTS_HD Audio_3 from the original and downconvert it to DTS, then remux it together with all the m2ts files in the workfiles folder... it should work right? I'll report back.

BD-Rebuilder 0.18.8 seems to be quite faster than previous versions, and I think it did it's job on this title as well... it just should've been up to me to recognize the complexity of this title and adjust the settings appropriately myself....
I think all-in-all, this version is a good update.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 22:32
As for 'The Secret Life of Bees'... I think that since is a bit more complicated thatn the usual Blurays, having both multiple-m2ts movie playlists and multiple main movie DTS_HD audios, and a extended version/theatrical version options on top of that... it is more up to the user to verify that they are selecting the correct audio to match up to the correct version of the movie.

The extended version and theatrical versions have several different m2ts files in their playlists. And their own DTS_HD audio stream for each as well. HD_Audio_3 is a couple hundred MBs larger than the HD_Audio_1.

Here's what I'm going to try JD, I'll be demuxing the DTS_HD Audio_3 from the original and downconvert it to DTS, then remux it together with all the m2ts files in the workfiles folder... it should work right? I'll report back.

BD-Rebuilder 0.18.8 seems to be quite faster than previous versions, and I think it did it's job on this title as well... it just should've been up to me to recognize the complexity of this title and adjust the settings appropriately myself....
I think all-in-all, this version is a good update. The whole idea of multiple M2TS files is so you can do exactly that. It is much simpler and more elegant than the way DVD does it -- mainly because of the larger buffer space on BD. But when you select a track, you are selecting a PID. That PID has to be consistent across all the component parts (M2TS files) of the selected Playlist in order for a BD player to play it back seamlessly. BD-RB keeps the audio based upon PID -- so I'm not sure how you could get a mixture of more than one track... unless the audio selections were changed while the files were being processed.

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 22:39
I doubt that but wouldn't be surprised that I had a senior moment... :p
Anyway, here's the BDREBUILDER.INI

[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
TARGET_SIZE=7910
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=1
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AVCHD=-
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=M:\HITMAN\
WORKING_PATH=D:\REBUILDS\


Comparing the INI from .07 vs .08, I see that the .07 does not have the ENCODE_QUALITY=5 parameter. Other than that, everything's the same. Yeah, that's it. ENCODE_QUALITY shouldn't be set to 5. I just realized I had it in the INI I included in the ZIP file (I'd been doing some testing). That's wrong. Either delete that line or go under SETTINGS/ENCODER OPTIONS and select the speed you'd like to use. If you leave it at 5 it will go very fast, but output with terrible quality.

smnckl
11th February 2009, 22:45
Yeah, that's it. ENCODE_QUALITY shouldn't be set to 5. I just realized I had it in the INI I included in the ZIP file (I'd been doing some testing). That's wrong. Either delete that line or go under SETTINGS/ENCODER OPTIONS and select the speed you'd like to use. If you leave it at 5 it will go very fast, but output with terrible quality.

Thanks JD. Might as well abort the current encode and run again. Appreciate the comeback. And the wonderful app that you have put out. Saves me a lot of work re-encoding BDs to 1280x720 so that they would fit on a DVD9.

MikeyBK
11th February 2009, 22:54
The whole idea of multiple M2TS files is so you can do exactly that. It is much simpler and more elegant than the way DVD does it -- mainly because of the larger buffer space on BD. But when you select a track, you are selecting a PID. That PID has to be consistent across all the component parts (M2TS files) of the selected Playlist in order for a BD player to play it back seamlessly. BD-RB keeps the audio based upon PID -- so I'm not sure how you could get a mixture of more than one track... unless the audio selections were changed while the files were being processed.
I think that since the extended version had some different m2ts files in it's playlist than the theatrical (not only the added m2ts), perhaps there was no PID in that 1st DTS-HD track (Edit: what I meant was that there was no PID for m2ts VID_96 in that DTS-HD Track_1), so BD-RB just used the next ??

Just FYI, what I did below worked... remuxing the DTS-HD (downconverted to DTS) track_3 in with the m2ts files from the workfiles folder... all audio is now perfect....
Only problem is that the entire BD-9 is now 8.02 GBs in size, so I'll have to either convert that DTS into AC3... or reencode over again with BD-Rebuilder 0.18.8, just making sure thought this time to select the correct audio track (DTS-HD_track 3) to encode with that extended version playlist...

Here's what I'm going to try JD, I'll be demuxing the DTS_HD Audio_3 from the original and downconvert it to DTS, then remux it together with all the m2ts files in the workfiles folder... it should work right? I'll report back.

MR.WaynesWorld
11th February 2009, 23:06
I am so Happy... The disc that always gave me trouble with BD-RB, Heroes Season 2 Disc 2, Completed today. Full backup to BD-25.... Sweet.... Great Job jdobbs.... :thanks:

jwjohnson
11th February 2009, 23:08
jdobbs,

I think I figured out what was causing my problem with the audio extractions. Here are the last couple of messages about it: Can you capture a listing of your working directory immediately after this happens and post it? It appears that a "rename" system call is saying the output file already exists. I'd like to see what is there.

I tried again and got the same error.

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[07:11:56] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: EAGLE_EYE_AC
- Input BD size: 31.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:57:35.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[07:11:56] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:22:04] ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 5
[07:22:17] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Here is a screenshot of my Work Folder:

http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9430&stc=1&d=1234362772

I decided to install BD-Rebuilder and all the necessary other progams for it on a second computer that I have. I was able to do a movie only backup of Eagle Eye with version 0.18.8 with no problems. It was done at Encode_Quality=5 just for speed, but seemed to work ok. It's just a bit slower machine.

Here's the log from that job:

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[06:48:04] BD Rebuilder v0.18.8 (beta)
- Source: EAGLE_EYE_AC
- Input BD size: 31.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:57:35.089]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[06:48:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [07:00:22] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 24,197 Kbs
- [07:00:25] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [07:00:25] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [09:52:17] Video Encode complete
- [09:52:17] Extracting/reencoding audio tracks
- [09:55:30] Multiplexing M2TS
[10:12:30]PHASE ONE complete
[10:12:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [10:12:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[10:30:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[10:30:47]JOB: EAGLE_EYE_AC completed.

I then went back to the first computer and uninstalled and reinstalled all the software. Still had the same issue. The first computer is actually a Windows XP virtual machine running in Parallels on my MacPro (4x2.66 cores). Other than running in Parallels the only other difference I could see was that my Working folder was on a network drive. When I switched it to one of the two virtual drives XP was running on it worked fine until it ran out of space near the end of pass 1. Even though the network drive is just another drive on my Mac that I share with the XP vm I'm guessing the network address is too long for some operation and maybe that's why it fails.

I can now either expand the virtual drives my XP vm uses or just run the program on the PC I've got next to it. It's only a dual core AMD 2.6 so will take a bit longer.

I don't know if this will help others with the audio extraction errors, but I hope so.

Jeff

jdobbs
11th February 2009, 23:38
I think that since the extended version had some different m2ts files in it's playlist than the theatrical (not only the added m2ts), perhaps there was no PID in that 1st DTS-HD track (Edit: what I meant was that there was no PID for m2ts VID_96 in that DTS-HD Track_1), so BD-RB just used the next ?? Actually it is extracted by TSMUXER, if there was associated PID in that file, you should have ended up with a sound file that was too short. I couldn't imagine TSMUXER extracting another track as a replacement... that's just crazy.

datman
12th February 2009, 00:49
One of the 2 disc I have not been able to encode “Patton” was successful last night with 18.8.:thanks: I also rip to image with anydvd. I tried working off the disc last week and it failed. Anydvd would not rip the movie either. So I tried ripping to image, perhaps that was the fix.

Tonight I’m attempting to encode my hardest film “The Longest Day” I tried it 4 or 5 times. 1st I’m working from folder if that fails I will try from image. I will post my results

MikeyBK
12th February 2009, 00:54
Actually it is extracted by TSMUXER, if there was associated PID in that file, you should have ended up with a sound file that was too short. I couldn't imagine TSMUXER extracting another track as a replacement... that's just crazy.

Well whatever the situation was, it had the wrong audio for VID_96, and what's even more wild is that VID_96 isn't even the extra scene.. it's in both the theatrical and extended versions of the movie when I play it back from the original/?

BTW, I was able to remux the DTS-HD Track_3 audio (converted to AC3) with the BD-Rebuilder output m2ts file (while deselecting the audio track_1 that was currently in that m2ts), and the end result was perect..... all audio is now present and in it's correct place.

Not sure why this may have happened, but I did not do any pre-processing of any kind. It is also pretty rare to have two completely seperate DTS-HD audios for two versions of the movie, right? Usually, as you say, all the audio for both versions of the movie are contained in the audio streram and only called up when/if needed... but apparently not if there are 'two' main movie audio streams for the different versions....

Anyways, BD-Rebuilder (and x264) did it's job like it was supposed to... I think I should have recognized that this Bluray was a bit more complex than the usual seamlessly branched titles, and should have selected the correct audio stream accordingly.

Learned another way that the movie industry could complicate their blurays further though...lmao... but it's all good and I won't have to reencode this title again afterall...

MikeyBK
12th February 2009, 02:11
Two screenshots below shows the different m2ts files in the seperate playlist.
m2ts 77 and m2ts 96 are the same scene except that 96 is 717 MBs while 77 is 616 MBs (perhaps some of the extended scene?}....

Not sure if this is even worth for you to figure out, considering it has been the only Bluray like this so far...

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6912/theatricalversionci3.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theatricalversionci3.png)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9224/extendedversionplaylistrg5.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=extendedversionplaylistrg5.png)

rafrag
12th February 2009, 03:30
was anyone successful with "full backup"? my three attempts were unsuccessful (bd-bd9), ps 3 shows data disc.

datman
12th February 2009, 03:37
by the way 18.8 is much faster. It's smokin fast. You guys with the i7 must be doing encodes in 3-4 hours.

Nice work jdobbs

Dark Shikari
12th February 2009, 03:49
by the way 18.8 is much faster. It's smokin fast. You guys with the i7 must be doing encodes in 3-4 hours.See:

http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=9bf45f6d397559486b5fe038c3847b0d35c61728
http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=32615747d3ab5648b666b4f55531f47b3c075521
http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=b69548aa3a0218ba1d4f934edcf8942f2b1682f5
http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=4c171c3b1c803a173ace823275882b3c9a2ecd24

I've been working hard on this you know ;). Holger has some good stuff up his sleeves as well...Nice work jdobbsJdobbs makes BD Rebuilder, x264 devs make x264, keep them separate :p

MikeyBK
12th February 2009, 04:06
You guys all deserve mad love for your combined talents in this..... the combination seems to be taking great strides forward together.

Again, much thanks to all of you... :thanks:

dmancornell
12th February 2009, 04:27
tried backing up pearl harbor with bd rebuilder 18.4 and 18.8. both versions result in the same error

[10:24:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:07:02] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 13,601 Kbs
- [11:07:05] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:46:38] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [19:10:53] Video Encode complete
- [19:10:53] Extracting/reencoding audio tracks
- [19:12:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
[19:25:21] - Failed to build structure, aborted


target size is bd-25. the file that breaks is mpeg-2 with ac3 audio.

jwgallardo
12th February 2009, 04:30
As expected from the PS3 experience, Denon BD-3800 is also working fine with the new v0.18.8 version.

I processed HITMAN using BD5/movie only/EQ: Better(fast)/AC3640. It played perfect in Denon. Even PQ is good since the movie is only 94mins. Now, I need that i7 processor because it still took 18hrs to process Hitman in my laptop T61 computer.

JD: Can you give us your comments about Encoder Quality results? To me, for a 90mins movie, fast option was "almost" perfect but I would love to use the default settings. How much extra time is that? Does it save time if it is BD9 vs BD5? (I was using BD5 during the debugging problems with my Denon but now I'll switch to BD9 until next bug.

P.S. For the people with i7 processors, the process time of 5 hours is using High Quality or Highest Quality option for encoder. Is there any advantage of using Highest Quality?

dmancornell
12th February 2009, 04:39
P.S. For the people with i7 processors, the process time of 5 hours is using High Quality or Highest Quality option for encoder. Is there any advantage of using Highest Quality?

on my 4ghz i7 highest quality takes 40% more time and i have not noticed anything different whatsoever on video quality, using bd-25 and watching on a sony 52" lcd.

since the difference is 3 more hours im sticking to high quality.

Dark Shikari
12th February 2009, 04:57
on my 4ghz i7 highest quality takes 40% more time and i have not noticed anything different whatsoever on video quality, using bd-25 and watching on a sony 52" lcd.

since the difference is 3 more hours im sticking to high quality.Unsurprising--a BD25 is high enough bitrate that you can get away with basically anything and it'll be unnoticeable.

GaPony
12th February 2009, 07:05
was anyone successful with "full backup"? my three attempts were unsuccessful (bd-bd9), ps 3 shows data disc.

Its not a problem with BD-Rebuilder, its a limitation of the PS3. Don't waste your time with full movies to BD9 or BD5 for PS3 playback...it will fail. If you want the full movie for the PS3, you have to use BD25 media.

If you want to use BD5 or BD9 discs in the PS3, you have to make a Movie Only copy... with the option for "Stricter AVCHD compliance for Movie Only" enabled (checked). I've done 50 of these discs for the PS3... trust me. ;)