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Shuttle99
9th November 2010, 00:30
No problem -- thanks for your help. Make sure, though, that you don't add the tweaks unless you have LAVF selected. The FORCE_CFR setting is only meant to work with LAVF.

Ok got it, so if having it unchecked still does not work I will add the check and add the lines to the ini files and retry it again.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 00:51
Ok got it, so if having it unchecked still does not work I will add the check and add the lines to the ini files and retry it again. That's probably not necessary. If it doesn't work without LAVF, the problem has to be somewhere else.

colinhunt
9th November 2010, 03:01
Tried to do a movie-only (playlist 00800) backup of Toy Story 3 disc 2 with 0.36.01:

[19:22:34] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: TOY_STORY_3_D2
- Input BD size: 20,49 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:42:33.355]
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[19:22:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:22:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [19:38:37] Reencoding: VID_00066 (1 of 1)
- [19:38:37] Collecting video information
- [19:38:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [19:38:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [19:38:37] Multiplexing M2TS
[19:49:12]PHASE ONE complete
[19:49:12]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19:49:12] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[19:53:09] - Failed to REBUILD

omegaman7
9th November 2010, 04:51
I'd like to know why some logs show:
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
while others show:
- Target BD size: 23.58 GB

Rather big difference if you ask me ;)

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 05:20
I'd like to know why some logs show:
- Target BD size: 23,58 GB
while others show:
- Target BD size: 23.58 GB

Rather big difference if you ask me ;) European style decimal notation uses a "," while the U.S. uses "." -- it changes based on your Windows settings.

omegaman7
9th November 2010, 05:23
Ahh. Thanks for that. :o

gamete
9th November 2010, 07:20
DVD can't be 1920x1080 -- it would violate spec. HD resolutions would indicate BD-5/9 or AVCHD rather than DVD.


thanks jdobbs:o

hoju3508
9th November 2010, 09:29
0004.mpls. You can use BDInfo to get this info.

Not a bug report, so let me first apologize for posting. I'm looking to you guys for recommended settings for Kick-Ass. When you backup this movie, what playlist do you choose for the movie-only backup? There are multiple ones here, and I'd prefer not to waste my time choosing the wrong one (which is what I think I did last time, by letting it choose it for me). Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :thanks:

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 14:38
Ok got it, so if having it unchecked still does not work I will add the check and add the lines to the ini files and retry it again. Any luck running without LAVF?

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 15:10
I'm just taking a shot in the dark but I notice in the log it shows 640 kbit for audio even though the actual output is 448 dvd compliant ac3. That may skew it a bit undersized if the calc is assuming 640 kbit. You hit the nail on the head. I was adjusting to 448 in the output, but not in the sizing calculation. That causes a two hour movie to undersize by about 164MB

Thanks.

MrT.
9th November 2010, 18:33
thanks jdobbs for the update.
To update, all I need to do is delete the current(old) BD-RB folder, then maybe reboot? Then extract the new version to C:/ ? Would that be fine and adequate?

After extracting the new version, do I need to do this? ""'Note to Windows 7 Users: The first time (and only the first time) you run BD Rebuilder, you may have to "Run As Administrator". This is necessary so BD-RB can make CODEC preference changes in the Windows Registry."""

Or does it need to be done just the very first time I ever use BD-RB on this current Windows 7 install.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 19:24
thanks jdobbs for the update.
To update, all I need to do is delete the current(old) BD-RB folder, then maybe reboot? Then extract the new version to C:/ ? Would that be fine and adequate?

After extracting the new version, do I need to do this? ""'Note to Windows 7 Users: The first time (and only the first time) you run BD Rebuilder, you may have to "Run As Administrator". This is necessary so BD-RB can make CODEC preference changes in the Windows Registry."""

Or does it need to be done just the very first time I ever use BD-RB on this current Windows 7 install. Yep, that works fine.

You shouldn't have to "Run as Administrator" again. It only needs to update the registry the first time it is run. The only exception might be if you ran into problems because some other program changed them again.

MrT.
9th November 2010, 19:50
ok, thank you very much.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 21:25
Yes, they have .WAV on the end. Thanks.


Magpowerzip I'm running "Cars" now to see if I can repeat the .WAV issue.

jdobbs
9th November 2010, 23:13
Yes, they have .WAV on the end. Thanks.


Magpowerzip I'm running "Cars" now to see if I can repeat the .WAV issue. I used the same settings as the ones you posted and it seems to have completed correctly. Not sure what I can do except to recommend that you try it again.

In the meantime, I'll do some testing on the output to make sure everything is right.

Shuttle99
10th November 2010, 00:40
Any luck running without LAVF?



I just burned the disc with LAVF unchecked and it work perfect.

Thanks
Shuttle99

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 15:25
I just burned the disc with LAVF unchecked and it work perfect.

Thanks
Shuttle99 Ok. That means that I probably need to put the "--force-cfr" back in for LAVF.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 16:42
I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.36.02). Changes for this revision:- Changed log output to not show target size when
ALTERNATE output is selected (it doesn't apply).
- Corrected an error in which certain combinations
of ALTERNATE movie-only, BD_SIZE and KEEP_HD
could result in blank audio-track(s) or failed
audio encoding for ALTERNATE output.
- Fixed incorrect reporting in the overall progress
bar when outputting to DVD via ALTERNATE.
- Corrected a resizing calculation error associated
with movie-only DVD targets.
- Fixed a regression in v0.36.1 that may cause
compatibility issues on Panasonic players when
using LAVF.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

setarip_old
10th November 2010, 17:27
Has anyone else encountered this?

Full disc backups of the Blu-ray series "The Pacific":

1) Burned discs play properly under PowerDVD (Of course, secondary ExpressDTS audio is silent/not present)

2) When burned discs are played on SONY 360, all preliminary activity leading up to the beginning of the main movie plays back properly, including audio. As soon as the main movie begins, there is no audio and neither audio nor subtitles can be accessed.

(Separate "movie-only" rips burned to dics play properly)

I can only guess that the SONY 360 is "gagging" on the presence or lack of presence of something to do with the DTSExpress audio.

If so, it's another reason to look forward to "jdobbs'" resolution of the DTSExpress "situation".

If it's due to something else, please advise...

Shuttle99
10th November 2010, 18:51
Ok. That means that I probably need to put the "--force-cfr" back in for LAVF.

I see you have new version and it shows a change to the LAVF so I take it you added to it what you wanted me to do manually. I will test one tonight and let you know if it fixed it.

Thanks,
Shuttle99

JJB
10th November 2010, 19:25
Has anyone else encountered this?

Full disc backups of the Blu-ray series "The Pacific":

1) Burned discs play properly under PowerDVD (Of course, secondary ExpressDTS audio is silent/not present)

2) When burned discs are played on SONY 360, all preliminary activity leading up to the beginning of the main movie plays back properly, including audio. As soon as the main movie begins, there is no audio and neither audio nor subtitles can be accessed.

(Separate "movie-only" rips burned to dics play properly)





I can only guess that the SONY 360 is "gagging" on the presence or lack of presence of something to do with the DTSExpress audio.

If so, it's another reason to look forward to "jdobbs'" resolution of the DTSExpress "situation".

If it's due to something else, please advise...


Nope same thing happened here on a Samsung player and Panasonic.

Thought it was something I did. Didn't bother me as it took to long to load and get to the episodes so I just put each episode on a BD5 for instant starts.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 19:35
I see you have new version and it shows a change to the LAVF so I take it you added to it what you wanted me to do manually. I will test one tonight and let you know if it fixed it.

Thanks,
Shuttle99 This one adds " --force-cfr" back for LAVF.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 19:36
Has anyone else encountered this?

Full disc backups of the Blu-ray series "The Pacific":

1) Burned discs play properly under PowerDVD (Of course, secondary ExpressDTS audio is silent/not present)

2) When burned discs are played on SONY 360, all preliminary activity leading up to the beginning of the main movie plays back properly, including audio. As soon as the main movie begins, there is no audio and neither audio nor subtitles can be accessed.

(Separate "movie-only" rips burned to dics play properly)

I can only guess that the SONY 360 is "gagging" on the presence or lack of presence of something to do with the DTSExpress audio.

If so, it's another reason to look forward to "jdobbs'" resolution of the DTSExpress "situation".

If it's due to something else, please advise... What firmware version are you using on the S360?

[Edit] Never mind. Based on JJB's post it looks like it affects more than just the S360.

Capsbackup
10th November 2010, 23:21
What firmware version are you using on the S360?

[Edit] Never mind. Based on JJB's post it looks like it affects more than just the S360.

This is what I reported months back, when burning full disc backups to DVD media, either BD5 or BD9. If the backup was burned to BD-R/RE, it works properly. If the original has PiP, the audio is silent and subtitles are not selectable when played back on Sony standalones. The audio and subtitles are there and work properly when played back with a PC with software players.
The consensus was, at that time, that it is a Sony firmware issue, since I believe some people reported proper playback on different mfg's standalones.
There is a workaround, but required the use of multiAVCHD.

EDIT:
@setarip_old;
you can check if this is what you are experiencing, starting from post #8765:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=439

jdobbs
11th November 2010, 00:19
This is what I reported months back, when burning full disc backups to DVD media, either BD5 or BD9. If the backup was burned to BD-R/RE, it works properly. If the original has PiP, the audio is silent and subtitles are not selectable when played back on Sony standalones. The audio and subtitles are there and work properly when played back with a PC with software players.
The consensus was, at that time, that it is a Sony firmware issue, since I believe some people reported proper playback on different mfg's standalones.
There is a workaround, but required the use of multiAVCHD.

EDIT:
@setarip_old;
you can check if this is what you are experiencing, starting from post #8765:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=439 I understood that post to mean it was happening on BD-25 -- if it is BD-5/9, then it is a known problem.

steveg32
11th November 2010, 02:24
@jdobbs

I just installed new version 0.36.02 then ran the inspect tool. FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO shows "Not recommended setting". This is a first for me as I always use only the recommended softwares from the 1st post. What should the correct setting be & where should I change it? Thanks.

-------------------------------

- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

-------------------------------

Video Dude
11th November 2010, 02:31
I just installed new version 0.36.02 then ran the inspect tool. FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO shows "Not recommended setting".

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157862


After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".

Nalios
12th November 2010, 02:55
Tried running an encode today and at the second pass it fails and tells me that Haali is not the recommended version. I've done half a dozen other movies in the past week or so and they all ran fine up til now.

Reinstalled BD_rebuilder v0.36.02 reinstalled haali 1.9.42.1 still giving me the not recommended version for Haali.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 03:17
Tried running an encode today and at the second pass it fails and tells me that Haali is not the recommended version. I've done half a dozen other movies in the past week or so and they all ran fine up til now.

Reinstalled BD_rebuilder v0.36.02 reinstalled haali 1.9.42.1 still giving me the not recommended version for Haali. Uninstall HAALI and then download and use the version of HAALI in the first post of this thread... there are lots of versions of HAALI that don't work with certain types of video (for one reason or another). The one linked will work with everything.

[Edit] Whoops... 1.9.42.1 is the recommended one. You need to uninstall, then deleted the folder under "C:\Program Files" for HAALI's MediaSplitter -- then reinstall. The uninstall procedure leaves a bunch of stray files that makes BD-RB think it isn't the correct version.

worknstiff
12th November 2010, 15:22
I had a weird occurance with BD_RB 36.02 doing a movie only of Good_BD. The disk when loaded into BD_RB it shows a movie runtime of 1:36.01 but after movie is converted it now has a runtime of 1:36.14. The movie is fine, no sync problems and it continues playing a black screen after the 1:36.01 mark for an additional 13 seconds. Don't know yet if this happens on any other titles but this is weird that it would continue running past the original runtime.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 15:25
I had a weird occurance with BD_RB 36.02 doing a movie only of Good_BD. The disk when loaded into BD_RB it shows a movie runtime of 1:36.01 but after movie is converted it now has a runtime of 1:36.14. The movie is fine, no sync problems and it continues playing a black screen after the 1:36.01 mark for an additional 13 seconds. Don't know yet if this happens on any other titles but this is weird that it would continue running past the original runtime. The length time shown is BD-RB is an estimate. It's might be possible that the M2TS is a little longer than the MPLS's start and end time (that's where the length estimate is pulled). Just for clarity's sake, you could look at the VID_XXXX.AVS file and see what it says for framecount.

I've seen several multi-part movies where an intro segment is longer than the MPLS time states. BD-RB actually does checks on multi-part movies and corrects when it finds goofiness like that. A single M2TS/CLPI set can be referenced from more than one playlist, and all don't necessarily have to play the entire clip.

lithiumus
12th November 2010, 18:11
Back in 24.06 the option to not process Secondary video was removed. Is there a way to "unselect" the secondary video in Full Backup mode?

micflair
12th November 2010, 18:45
greetings all.

Still having problems with Fringe Season 2, Ive installed the new build, with the recommended software from the front page and Im still getting `x264' problems as described before. the inspect.exe program reports everything is installed fine and settings are correct.

Is there any log file I can put up here to help you guys help me out? :)

Cheers, Mick

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 19:17
greetings all.

Still having problems with Fringe Season 2, Ive installed the new build, with the recommended software from the front page and Im still getting `x264' problems as described before. the inspect.exe program reports everything is installed fine and settings are correct.

Is there any log file I can put up here to help you guys help me out? :)

Cheers, MickIs your system overclocked? The fact that it crashes at different points, and shows no consistency almost assures that it is a system problem.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 19:59
Back in 24.06 the option to not process Secondary video was removed. Is there a way to "unselect" the secondary video in Full Backup mode? Sorry, but no. Removing it causes more problems than it solves.

SpazzHH
12th November 2010, 20:43
Any idea on why I would get the standard AVS error of RenderFile with all correct versions installed and be able to play the file itself with any media player I choose? This has to be something really strange. I've re-installed Haali, ffdshow and AviSynth til I'm blue. Still get the same message with Sound of Music. Only disc to give me problems.

setarip_old
12th November 2010, 20:47
@Capsbackup

Hi! EDIT:
@setarip_old;
you can check if this is what you are experiencing, starting from post #8765:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716&page=439 The post this link goes to, as well as the several following, appear to be about menu buttons - which, as far as I know, has nothing to do with what I posted...

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 21:07
Any idea on why I would get the standard AVS error of RenderFile with all correct versions installed and be able to play the file itself with any media player I choose? This has to be something really strange. I've re-installed Haali, ffdshow and AviSynth til I'm blue. Still get the same message with Sound of Music. Only disc to give me problems.You might try setting Raw Video to "All Supported" in your FFDSHOW video setup.

SpazzHH
12th November 2010, 21:48
Thanks for the reply. I tried the setting change, no joy. This has me totally bumfuzzled. Every player I have will play the M2TS, so it doesn't seem to be a codec issue. For the life of me, I can't figure this one out. I get exactly the same thing on another machine.

micflair
12th November 2010, 22:08
Is your system overclocked? The fact that it crashes at different points, and shows no consistency almost assures that it is a system problem.

no its not mate! I had no problems at all untill the last build. Trying a different image now to see if its a problem in that area! Hope it is, sorta!

Nalios
12th November 2010, 22:22
Any idea on why I would get the standard AVS error of RenderFile with all correct versions installed and be able to play the file itself with any media player I choose? This has to be something really strange. I've re-installed Haali, ffdshow and AviSynth til I'm blue. Still get the same message with Sound of Music. Only disc to give me problems.

My problem stemmed from attempting to encode Sound of Music as well. I made no version changes at all after posting as it was processing another attempt already. This time it worked successfully without any errors.

However I'm still getting a flag for the incorrect Haali version even though its the one from the link in first post. Green Zone just finshed successfully even with the error flag..

Baffled why it tells me Haali is incorrect. I guess I'll keep going as is til it quits again.

Capsbackup
13th November 2010, 00:50
@Capsbackup

Hi! The post this link goes to, as well as the several following, appear to be about menu buttons - which, as far as I know, has nothing to do with what I posted...

You did not read down far enough. Starting from post #8765 I discuss using multiAVCHD to substitute/use an external audio file, the original for the title though, and rebuild it. This only applies to BD5/9 media though!

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 02:09
My problem stemmed from attempting to encode Sound of Music as well. I made no version changes at all after posting as it was processing another attempt already. This time it worked successfully without any errors.

However I'm still getting a flag for the incorrect Haali version even though its the one from the link in first post. Green Zone just finshed successfully even with the error flag..

Baffled why it tells me Haali is incorrect. I guess I'll keep going as is til it quits again. If you have ever installed a different version of HAALI there are probably files left over that are causing BD-RB to think it is incorrect. HAALI's uninstall doesn't remove everything.

Here's what you can do:

1. Uninstall HAALI.

2. Go to "c:\program files\haali" and delete the "MatroskSplitter" folder

3. Reinstall the HAALI version from the first post.

After that INSPECT should say "Ok" for HAALI.

omegaman7
13th November 2010, 02:13
I never trust uninstallers. For whatever reason, there's usually something left behind in the programs folders. And always left behind in the registry. Gotta be careful with the registry mind you ;)

drackula
13th November 2010, 03:46
I found this problem.

[09:43:08] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:27.541]
- Target BD size: 23.24 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[09:43:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:43:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (49023 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[09:54:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

How do I solve the problem. Thank You.

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 06:18
I found this problem.

[09:43:08] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: PIRATES2
- Input BD size: 39.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:27.541]
- Target BD size: 23.24 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Resuming from previously started job.
[09:43:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:43:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- AV frame too large (49023 bytes). Increase AV buffer.
[09:54:21] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

How do I solve the problem. Thank You.Is this from an original disc? Most of the time that indicates a bad rip. If you ripped it, was it with AnyDVD?

steveg32
13th November 2010, 09:03
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=157862

Thanks very much for the prompt reply. :thanks:

buerste3
13th November 2010, 11:57
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

Please tell me what i can do.

I installed the K-Lite Codec Pack.

New system with Windows 7 and i need a little help.

Nalios
13th November 2010, 14:14
If you have ever installed a different version of HAALI there are probably files left over that are causing BD-RB to think it is incorrect. HAALI's uninstall doesn't remove everything.

Here's what you can do:

1. Uninstall HAALI.

2. Go to "c:\program files\haali" and delete the "MatroskSplitter" folder

3. Reinstall the HAALI version from the first post.

After that INSPECT should say "Ok" for HAALI.

I'll try deleting the matroska folder and reinstalling. I know better than to assume that uninstall ever removes all the garbage from the install. I usually manually search and delete all the crap left from an auto uninstall and did not this time, rather just installed over the old folder. Geez, I wonder what my problem is? Lol.

*sigh* shortcuts always end up taking longer..

Thanks for setting me straight.

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 14:58
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

Please tell me what i can do.

I installed the K-Lite Codec Pack.

New system with Windows 7 and i need a little help. To avoid problems you have to follow the directions in the first post of this thread or in the README files that is included in the BD Rebuilder zip file.

The first time you run BD-RB you have to "Run as Administrator" and BD Rebuilder will update those settings in the registry.