BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

I have really never done this before, but I needed to take my laptop somewhere while it was in the middle of a BDRB job. The resumed video has a couple of unplayable areas in it with bad breakups. I reran the job from scratch and they are gone. Is that an issue with resuming jobs, or a bug with that function? It should have no issues. All it does is pick up at the beginning of whichever pass you were on when you dropped out. I've done it hundreds of times. Just make sure you abort the job (don't just turn the computer off) so BD-RB can cleanly stop the processes.

[RobertM]

I had an odd one the other day; not a rebuild failure, but truly an oddity. I was Backing up a BluRay of "W". The source folder was called "W" but the resulting rebuild ended up in a newly-created folder called "WD-2TB". The source folder ("W") was on a HDD with a volume label "WD-2TB" (Western Digital 2 Terra Bytes), so, it would seem pretty obvious that the new folder name was just copied from the volume label instead of the folder name.

Not sure if this is a BD-RB issue or a Win7-64 issue, or what. It's a pretty far-out edge case (not likely to happen very often), but I thought I'd report it just to get it in the record.

[gonca]

@RobertM
This seems to occur with input names that are short. Maybe 3 or 4 characters or less. I usually get INPUT, which happens to be the name of my source drive.

Just tested and it seems the number of characters is 2 or less for this to happen.

[jdobbs]

I had an odd one the other day; not a rebuild failure, but truly an oddity. I was Backing up a BluRay of "W". The source folder was called "W" but the resulting rebuild ended up in a newly-created folder called "WD-2TB". The source folder ("W") was on a HDD with a volume label "WD-2TB" (Western Digital 2 Terra Bytes), so, it would seem pretty obvious that the new folder name was just copied from the volume label instead of the folder name.

Not sure if this is a BD-RB issue or a Win7-64 issue, or what. It's a pretty far-out edge case (not likely to happen very often), but I thought I'd report it just to get it in the record.If the BDMV file is in the root of a drive, then the Volume Label is used. I think your case was because the folder only had one letter. BD-RB interpreted that to be a drive. Was the "W" drive in the root? I'll look at the code -- but I think any path that is shorter than 3 char.

[RobertM]

Was the "W" drive in the root?

No, it was "E:/Bluray/W".

Regards,
Bob

[jdobbs]

No, it was "E:/Bluray/W".

Regards,
BobHmm... I'll check it out, but I sure can't imagine how that could happen.

[lauguru]

bug
not play the movie, or the theatrical version and extended version, the extras on hand, if.

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[Ch3vr0n]

[QUOTE=lauguru;1614309]bug
not play the movie, or the theatrical version and extended version, the extras on hand, if.

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Come back when u decide to use the original retail store disc (pirate). No retail disc uses a name like that.


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[jdobbs]

@lauguru

You need to use an original source BD. I have no idea what has happened to that source before it reaches BD-RB -- but I would guarantee that it was preprocessed.

[lauguru]

@lauguru

You need to use an original source BD. I have no idea what has happened to that source before it reaches BD-RB -- but I would guarantee that it was preprocessed.

ok thanks

[Video Dude]

You need to use an original source BD.

Is it ok to use BD Rebuilder a second time on files already processed by BD Rebuilder?

For example, I used BD-RB to make movie only no compression copies stored on hard disks, some larger than the BD25 size. If I now want to burn to BD25 disc, can I use BD-RB on the movie only output files to compress it to fit on the disc? This would save time by not having to rip the original disc again.

[Ch3vr0n]

Sure you can, however if something goes wrong (though unlikely) you can't issue a bug report since the source for the report will have been preprocessed (by BDRB, by who doesn't matter. Preprocessed is preprocessed)

[RobertM]

Preprocessed is preprocessed)

Actually, I'd be rather surprised if JDobbs wouldn't want to hear that BD-RB created a file that couldn't be properly processed a second time by BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

Actually, I'd be rather surprised if JDobbs wouldn't want to hear that BD-RB created a file that couldn't be properly processed a second time by BD-RB. If the source was created by BD-RB and it choked the second time through, I'd have to accept it -- I'd just want to know the entire sequence of events so I can recreate it (end-to-end). That way I'd actually be starting with a "non-preprocessed" source.

[Nico8583]

Hi :)
Have you test BD-RB with AviSynth 2.6.0 alpha 4 ?
I use another soft and I must install 2.6.0 alpha 4 with. But on the same OS I have already AviSynth 2.5.8 for BD-RB...
Thanks !

[jdobbs]

I haven't tested it, but it will probably work. Just remember that if you use it I won't accept any bug reports. It's an Alpha -- and testing a beta on an alpha is pretty much a recipe for failure.

[Nico8583]

Thanks ;)
Do you know if a rollback from 2.6.0 a4 to 2.5.8 is possible without problem in case of bug with BD-RB ?
Does AviSynth version could influence encoding quality or another point ?

[jdobbs]

Thanks ;)
Do you know if a rollback from 2.6.0 a4 to 2.5.8 is possible without problem in case of bug with BD-RB ?
Does AviSynth version could influence encoding quality or another point ?

It's unpredictable. It could cause anything from a small glitch to a complete crash. AVISYNTH is used extensively.

I wouldn't suggest using an Alpha version of AVISYNTH with BD-RB.

[Nico8583]

Thanks :) I'll install AviSynth Alpha to my second PC so no problem.
I had report a bug 2 months ago on angle selection, do you find anything for this problem ?
It was on Ice Age 4, movie got 5 angles but BD-RB find only 2 angles.
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3196/iceage4.png
Thanks ;)

[gamete]

What is the maximum dimension to set output in bd rebuilder to fill almost the disc?

i try 24500mb but it 's too

sorry for my bad english

[omegaman7]

What is the maximum dimension to set output in bd rebuilder to fill almost the disc?

i try 24500mb but it 's too

sorry for my bad english

I generally stick with 23500. But that is by NO means a good standard. Depending on the source disc, and it's quirks, you might need to adjust higher OR lower.

I would stick with 23,000 frankly. You really don't wanna utilize the very edge of the disc anyhow. That's typically where the worst burn errors occur.

[colinhunt]

You really don't wanna utilize the very edge of the disc anyhow. That's typically where the worst burn errors occur.
Not an issue when using high quality media and a good writer, like the latest 2-3 generations of Pioneer drives. I usually adjust output size so it leaves less than 100MB of space on a BD-R.

[colinhunt]

Bumped into another weird issue. This time the culprit is Space Adventure Cobra, a Japanese SciFi animation from early 80s. It's a collection of tv show episodes but they've all been authored into a single 47GB .m2ts instead of each episode in its own .m2ts. The problem is that in the output some of the episodes are missing English subtitles. Yes, some, but not all.

[jdobbs]

Not an issue when using high quality media and a good writer, like the latest 2-3 generations of Pioneer drives. I usually adjust output size so it leaves less than 100MB of space on a BD-R. I would disagree. It is much more cost efficient to simply not write to the outer edge. The space lost isn't enough to make a noticable difference in quality -- and you can rest assured that you're not having issues half-way through your movie when you watch it next year.

But... to each his/her own.

[Rich86]

I am running into an audio/video sync issue with the Alex Cross BD. After processing the source files to a movie only BD, the audio is significantly out of sync. The original BD and rip of the BD seems fine. Has anyone else run into this recently? I am running version BD-RB 42.08 and "Inspect" says everything is OK. This is one of those screwy Summitt titles with 1 correct playlist & a bunch of phony ones with the correct main movie playlist including 12 M2TS files. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome.

[RobertM]

and you can rest assured that you're not having issues half-way through your movie when you watch it next year.

Just out of curiosity, with a 'movie only' rebuild wouldn't any potential problems caused by outer edge writing happen at the end of the film, during the credits?

[omegaman7]

Just out of curiosity, with a 'movie only' rebuild wouldn't any potential problems caused by outer edge writing happen at the end of the film, during the credits?

Should be. But should you ever need to run another copy down the road, a read error might prevent you from copying the disc.

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

Hi!

See my post #16521 in this thread (and my related postings prior to that in this thread) regarding the "Ted" Blu-ray.

Also, a similar problem was noted regarding this year's (not Ahnold) "Total Recall".

There would see to be bad pressings occurring with greater frequency than in past years.

[omegaman7]

@Rich86

Hi!

See my post #16521 in this thread (and my related postings prior to that in this thread) regarding the "Ted" Blu-ray.

Also, a similar problem was noted regarding this year's (not Ahnold) "Total Recall".

There would see to be bad pressings occurring with greater frequency than in past years.

Thanks for the reminder! I generally look at my readers with one raised brow. Especially if google can't find others having the same issue. ;)

[Rich86]

@Rich86

Hi!

See my post #16521 in this thread (and my related postings prior to that in this thread) regarding the "Ted" Blu-ray.

Also, a similar problem was noted regarding this year's (not Ahnold) "Total Recall".

There would see to be bad pressings occurring with greater frequency than in past years.

I have a problem blaming the pressing since the original disc and the rip of that disc to my hard disc play fine. The problem appears only with the movie only version after processing by BD-RB.

[omegaman7]

I have a problem blaming the pressing since the original disc and the rip of that disc to my hard disc play fine. The problem appears only with the movie only version after processing by BD-RB.

I've had a similar instance. Reripping via another drive, fixed the problem. Needless to say, I no longer use the drive that introduced a read error. BD-RB was likely NOT the problem. It's the helper apps. E.g. TSmuxer. TSmuxer is clearly a finicky little helper app :p

Just an observation.... I mean no disrespect.

[Rich86]

I've had a similar instance. Reripping via another drive, fixed the problem. Needless to say, I no longer use the drive that introduced a read error. BD-RB was likely NOT the problem. It's the helper apps. E.g. TSmuxer. TSmuxer is clearly a finicky little helper app :p

Interesting. I will do a bit more experimenting with a different computer with a BD drive and report back.

[jdobbs]

Just out of curiosity, with a 'movie only' rebuild wouldn't any potential problems caused by outer edge writing happen at the end of the film, during the credits?

On a single layer disc that would be true.

[omegaman7]

On a single layer disc that would be true.

That's a very good point! :o

[jdobbs]

That's a very good point! :o I can't remember which direction the second layer is read, though... I know the first layer is read from center to the edge.

[omegaman7]

I would assume it starts in the center, moves outward, and then back inward. In order to be seamless. But then, buffering would eliminate the need for that.

[colinhunt]

But... to each his/her own.
Indeed. I prefer to do full discs to maximize bitrates. Like for example, an average bitrate of 21 Mbps instead of 20 Mbps. It's also why I use the slowest encoding preset; for best quality. Aaand I also make sure I use high quality media and burners by measuring PIE, PIF and Jitter values of a couple of discs from each cakebox. :D

[setarip_old]

@Rich86

To add some confusion to the topic:

1) My full disc rip was errorless. The question still remains, although BD-RB creates a perfectly synched FULL DISC COPY, why doesn't BD-RB create a properly synched MOVIE-ONLY either from the original rip of the commercial Blu-ray disc or the BD-RB created FULL DISC COPY ?

2) When my BD-RB "movie only" version proved to be out of synch, I ripped a "movie only" directly from the UNCOMPRESSED full disc (Excluding BD-RB from the equation). To my total surprise, this FULL "movie only" version was also out of synch!

BTW, if I remember correctly, the out of synch effect increased as the movie progressed...

[jdobbs]

@Rich86

To add some confusion to the topic:

1) My full disc rip was errorless. The question still remains, although BD-RB creates a perfectly synched FULL DISC COPY, why doesn't BD-RB create a properly synched MOVIE-ONLY either from the original rip of the commercial Blu-ray disc or the BD-RB created FULL DISC COPY ?

2) When my BD-RB "movie only" version proved to be out of synch, I ripped a "movie only" directly from the UNCOMPRESSED full disc (Excluding BD-RB from the equation). To my total surprise, this FULL "movie only" version was also out of synch!

BTW, if I remember correctly, the out of synch effect increased as the movie progressed... I'll test "Alex Cross" tomorrow -- if it is out of synch, I'll find and fix the problem.

[Rich86]

I'll test "Alex Cross" tomorrow -- if it is out of synch, I'll find and fix the problem.

Here's a bit more info, in case it is helpful:

I updated the firmware in my BD drive. I doubt this update has anything to do with reading a BD, but what the heck . . . then I reripped the Alex Cross title.

I ran Alex Cross through multi AVCHD set for movie only, no menus, & set so no additional compression would occur. The resulting output copy plays fine - no problems with AV synch.

I reran Alex Cross through BD-RB for movie only, with output custom size set so no re-compression would take place - and the output copy has the AV synch problem introduced into it. imho there is something about this title that BD-RB doesn't handle correctly.

Please note that as best I can tell, playlist #814 is the correct one for the movie & the one I have been testing with.

[MikeyBK]

Regarding the Alex Cross audio sync issue, here's what I did and posted in another forum to get a clean copy of that playlist 814...

If you still wanted to process playlist 814 thru BDRebuilder and get a copy that doesn't have the audio sync issue then you'll need to run all the original m2ts files for that playlist thru TSMuxer and 'join' them together outputting to a single m2ts bluray structure files, it'll output to about 26 Gigs, then run that newly muxed bluray files thru BDRebuilder and you'll get a clean copy without the audio sync problem.

[jdobbs]

That's good info to know -- but since this is a bug thread, the important thing is that I figure out what is causing the sync issue.

Interesting that TSMuxer handles it correctly when it joins them... especially since that's what BD-RB uses to do the same.

[MikeyBK]

yeah, perhaps it will get you to find the bug quicker knowing that TSMuxer joining the files processes thru BDRebuilder without any issues...

or whether it's even a bug in Rebuilder at all...because Rebuilder has worked fine for ages...

[Yordan5]

Regarding the Alex Cross audio sync issue, here's what I did and posted in another forum to get a clean copy of that playlist 814...

If you still wanted to process playlist 814 thru BDRebuilder and get a copy that doesn't have the audio sync issue then you'll need to run all the original m2ts files for that playlist thru TSMuxer and 'join' them together outputting to a single m2ts bluray structure files, it'll output to about 26 Gigs, then run that newly muxed bluray files thru BDRebuilder and you'll get a clean copy without the audio sync problem.

I have done about 300 movies with BD-RB. Every single one of them was pre-processed with TSMuxer (to insert Bulgarian subtitles) to Main Movie only from the original Full Disk rip (using AnyDVD HD as the ripper). I have not yet experienced a single issue following this procedure. Each BD-RB job was completed perfectly.

[Nico8583]

Thanks :) I'll install AviSynth Alpha to my second PC so no problem.
I had report a bug 2 months ago on angle selection, do you find anything for this problem ?
It was on Ice Age 4, movie got 5 angles but BD-RB find only 2 angles.
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3196/iceage4.png
Thanks ;)
I hope you have seen my post :)

[Yordan5]

How come when BD-RB starts Rebuilding BD file Structure (which is the last process of the job) my PC becomes unresponsive or slow and until this process finishes not much else can be run. CPU usage during this stage is minimal and I have always wondered what causes this unresponsiveness. My PC is core i5 3570K with 8Gb RAM and Windows 7 64 bit running from an SSD.

[jdobbs]

How come when BD-RB starts Rebuilding BD file Structure (which is the last process of the job) my PC becomes unresponsive or slow and until this process finishes not much else can be run. CPU usage during this stage is minimal and I have always wondered what causes this unresponsiveness. My PC is core i5 3570K with 8Gb RAM and Windows 7 64 bit running from an SSD. That task is barely using the CPU -- but it is reading/writing extensively to the hard drive. That's why the computer is responding so slowly. Rebuilding generally only takes a few minutes (depending upon the complexity).

[Rich86]

I stumbled upon another issue today.
"Seven Psychopaths" blu-ray - processing through BD-RB in movie only mode to fit on a 25gb output.
This title has forced subtitles (see chapter 4). They work fine with the ripped files.
Once processed through BD-RB, the forced subtitles do not work. If I turn english subtitles #2 on, the english subtitles for vietnamese dialog shows up.
If I then turn english subtitles #2 off and back up to the beginning of the chapter, the forced subtitles now work.
The source has 3 subtitle tracks (english 1 & 2 & spanish is #3). I specified to not include the spanish subtitles when I ran it thru BD-RB - just the 1st 2 english subtitles were carried forward.

[Yordan5]

That task is barely using the CPU -- but it is reading/writing extensively to the hard drive. That's why the computer is responding so slowly. Rebuilding generally only takes a few minutes (depending upon the complexity).

Thank you for enlightening me. Now it makes sense. I must say that with each PC upgrade (faster machines) I've had this has been less of an issue.

[omegaman7]

Thank you for enlightening me. Now it makes sense. I must say that with each PC upgrade (faster machines) I've had this has been less of an issue.

At any given time, I usually have 6 - 8 Hard drives connected to my machine. Food for thought ;)