BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MrVideo]

Hi there Mr.V.. thanks for the confirmation.
Nothing against HEVC, but my older player will not play it, only 264 flavour discs and files.. So wondering about the possibility of creating 4K in a 264 jacket, tis all..
While I hate to say this, but get a new player. I suspect that your player won't even play MKV/MP4 files with 2160p/H264. You can use the NVENCCRE program to recode the 2160p/HEVC to 1080p/H264, you will not have HDR. Frankly I do not know if BDRB can be configured to do a disc backup and recode the 2160p/HEVC to 1080p/H.264.

If you have a display that can do 2160p/HEVC/HDR, then you really need to get a new player.

[musiclover]

Thank you for the new function to keep the original video intact while converting the audio in NVENCCRE v0.10.12. But there is a bug where the internal subtitles are not kept.

NVLASTCMD.TXT
"C:\BD Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -i "E:\Grantchester\grantchester.s08e06.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac.2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv" -y -map 0:v:0 -c:v copy -map 0:a:0 -c:a:0 ac3 -b:a:0 224k "D:\WORK\grantchester.s08e06.1080p.pbs.web-dl.ac3.h.264-ntb.mkv"

NVREENCODE.LOG
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[07.10.23] NVENCC Reencoder v0.10.12
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[16.27.43]Start Job [1 of 6]
- Reencoding "grantchester.s08e01.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[16.28.14]Job Completed [1 of 6]
[16.28.14]Start Job [2 of 6]
- Reencoding "grantchester.s08e02.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[16.28.45]Job Completed [2 of 6]
[16.28.45]Start Job [3 of 6]
- Reencoding "grantchester.s08e03.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[16.29.36]Job Completed [3 of 6]
[16.29.37]Start Job [4 of 6]
- Reencoding "grantchester.s08e04.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[16.30.27]Job Completed [4 of 6]
[16.30.27]Start Job [5 of 6]
- Reencoding "grantchester.s08e05.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[16.31.06]Job Completed [5 of 6]
[16.31.06]Start Job [6 of 6]
- Reencoding "grantchester.s08e06.1080p.pbs.web-dl.aac2.0.h.264-ntb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[16.31.43]Job Completed [6 of 6]

[doobre]

While I hate to say this, but get a new player. I suspect that your player won't even play MKV/MP4 files with 2160p/H264. You can use the NVENCCRE program to recode the 2160p/HEVC to 1080p/H264, you will not have HDR. Frankly I do not know if BDRB can be configured to do a disc backup and recode the 2160p/HEVC to 1080p/H.264.

If you have a display that can do 2160p/HEVC/HDR, then you really need to get a new player.

yep got another one for that, I'm just trying to make some movies backwards compatible, sort thing... cheers CD

[jdobbs]

@musiclover

Yeah. I think I need to do some serious work on the "keep video intact" option.

But, just in case:

1. Is "Keep Internal Subtitles" checked?
2. Under "Special Processing" do you have the subtitle language selected?

[MrVideo]

I'm just trying to make some movies backwards compatible
That begs the question: why?

[musiclover]

@musiclover

Yeah. I think I need to do some serious work on the "keep video intact" option.

But, just in case:

1. Is "Keep Internal Subtitles" checked?
2. Under "Special Processing" do you have the subtitle language selected?

The answer to both questions is YES

[bjones]

@musiclover

Yeah. I think I need to do some serious work on the "keep video intact" option.

But, just in case:

1. Is "Keep Internal Subtitles" checked?
2. Under "Special Processing" do you have the subtitle language selected?

Yes on mine as well in special processing section, except it had the convert DVD/BD subtitle to SRT checked which was the only processing I was shooting for

[jdobbs]

The answer to both questions is YESYes on mine as well in special processing section, except it had the convert DVD/BD subtitle to SRT checked which was the only processing I was shooting forI'll look at it and fix it as soon as I get a chance.

[jdobbs]

@musiclover

I just tried several sources in which I am keeping video intact and reencoding audio to AC3 (like your post) using NVENCCRE. In every case, as long as the language has been selected, it is keeping the internal subtitle. Can you tell me what kind of subtitle your source files are using, what language they are, and what languages you have selected?

[jdobbs]

@bjones

Well... looking at the code it looks like I never got around to adding the ffmpeg command line options that actually include the converted (SRT) subtitles that have been created from the graphical subs when using "Keep Original Video" is selected!! I guess that's what happens when you start something and then not go back to it for a while.

[musiclover]

@musiclover

I just tried several sources in which I am keeping video intact and reencoding audio to AC3 (like your post) using NVENCCRE. In every case, as long as the language has been selected, it is keeping the internal subtitle. Can you tell me what kind of subtitle your source files are using, what language they are, and what languages you have selected?

The subtitles are .srt files, the language is English and I have all languages selected.

Mediainfo source file:
General
Unique ID : 260204332385627246476092889188414911582 (0xC3C1881302AEC33EA5821E05EDA1F45E)
Complete name : E:\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 2.45 GiB
Duration : 52 min 45 s
Overall bit rate : 6 654 kb/s
Frame rate : 29.970 FPS
Encoded date : 2023-07-10 05:53:31 UTC
Writing application : mkvmerge v78.0 ('Running') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.4 + libmatroska v1.7.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 52 min 45 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 6 500 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.105
Stream size : 2.39 GiB (98%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : A_AAC-2
Duration : 52 min 45 s
Bit rate : 157 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 59.4 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 52 min 38 s
Bit rate : 67 b/s
Frame rate : 0.308 FPS
Count of elements : 973
Stream size : 26.0 KiB (0%)
Title : SDH
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

mediainfo converted file:
General
Unique ID : 94091182688097716403814384801232346267 (0x46C94D78C743808D77741B959EDA5C9B)
Complete name : D:\WORK\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 2.48 GiB
Duration : 52 min 45 s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 6 721 kb/s
Frame rate : 29.970 FPS
Writing application : Lavf57.83.100
Writing library : Lavf57.83.100
ErrorDetectionType : Per level 1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 52 min 45 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 6 500 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 29.970 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.105
Stream size : 2.39 GiB (97%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 52 min 45 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 224 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 32 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 59.4 MiB (2%)
Writing library : Lavc57.107.100 ac3
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No

[jdobbs]

For those who are having subtitle issues with NVENCCRE when using "Keep Original Video (intact)", please try this version (https://jammernhilftnichts.de/jdobbs/NVENCCRE_v1014.zip). You can replace the one included in the BD-RB folder. Give it some tests and let me know if it works ok for you now.

Please note that there are three options under the SUBTITLES menu item (1. "Keep Internal Subtitles", 2. "Convert BD/DVD Subtitles to SRT", and 3. "Add external subtitle"). Here is how they affect each other:

If 1 is selected, internal subtitles will be kept.
If 2 is selected, any graphical subtitles (PGS/VOBSUB) will be converted to SRT
If 3 is selected, any SRT with the same name/folder as a source will be included.

If you only want to keep an SRT and not the original graphical subtitles, deselect 1. Be careful, though, as any and all internal subtitles will be ignored (other than what is converted to SRT, assuming it is selected).

[musiclover]

For those who are having subtitle issues with NVENCCRE when using "Keep Original Video (intact)", please try this version (https://jammernhilftnichts.de/jdobbs/NVENCCRE_v1014.zip). You can replace the one included in the BD-RB folder. Give it some tests and let me know if it works ok for you now.

Please note that there are three options under the SUBTITLES menu item (1. "Keep Internal Subtitles", 2. "Convert BD/DVD Subtitles to SRT", and 3. "Add external subtitle"). Here is how they affect each other:

If 1 is selected, internal subtitles will be kept.
If 2 is selected, any graphical subtitles (PGS/VOBSUB) will be converted to SRT
If 3 is selected, any SRT with the same name/folder as a source will be included.

If you only want to keep an SRT and not the original graphical subtitles, deselect 1. Be careful, though, as any and all internal subtitles will be ignored (other than what is converted to SRT, assuming it is selected).

No luck with keeping the internal subtitles. The job ends in two seconds. No output file is being written in the Working/Output path. Only the log and the lastcmd are there.

NVREENCODE.LOG:
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[07.16.23] NVENCC Reencoder v0.10.14
----------------------
[10.15.28]Start Job [1 of 1]
- Reencoding "Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[10.15.30]Job Completed [1 of 1]

NVLASTCMD.TXT:
"C:\BD Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -i "E:\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv" -y -map 0:v:0 -c:v copy -map 0:a:0 -c:a:0 ac3 -b:a:0 224k -map 0:s:1 -c:s:0 copy "D:\WORK\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv"

[dietachi]

Hello,

I want to ask if there are any plans to implement QSVEncC for encoding.
I tested with the Intel Arc A750 and had some promising results.

[MrVideo]

I want to ask if there are any plans to implement QSVEncC for encoding.
I tested with the Intel Arc A750 and had some promising results.
IMHO, slim to none chance. Why? Because it would require the purchase of another computer system with the Intel graphics card. Pretty much everyone here uses the nVideo graphics card. Plus the number of people that would use said Intel card is extremely small. No ROI.

[dietachi]

IMHO, slim to none chance. Why? Because it would require the purchase of another computer system with the Intel graphics card. Pretty much everyone here uses the nVideo graphics card. Plus the number of people that would use said Intel card is extremely small. No ROI.



Hello,

Thanks for your perspective. I appreciate the thought behind your analysis but I think there's a misunderstanding here.

While I understand your point about needing a new system with an Intel graphics card, I'd like to clarify that the QSVEncC support extends beyond the specific Intel Arc A750 card. It is indeed applicable to various Intel integrated GPUs (iGPUs) that come inbuilt in many standard PCs, especially those with Intel CPUs.

These Intel iGPUs are ubiquitous and certainly not limited to a small number of people as you suggest. Implementing QSVEncC, therefore, does not necessarily mean a need for users to purchase a new computer system. Rather, it could potentially unlock additional encoding efficiency for a substantial number of existing Intel CPU users.

As for the nVideo graphics card you've mentioned, it's notable to mention that not everyone is limited to this single choice, and having additional encoding options can only strengthen the tool's capabilities, increasing its appeal to a wider user base. The ROI might not be immediately obvious, but it's important to consider long-term usability and broad accessibility as well.

I hope this provides some clarity and prompts reconsideration of the idea. Thank you again for your input and discussion.

[MrVideo]

I'm sure there are plenty of Intel CPU users with nVidea cards. If an Intel CPU user doesn't have an Intel GPU, he supports software only encoding (H2.64 and H.265), which takes many hours longer than nVideo hardware support. For jdobbs to support software that supports the Intel GPU, it would mean another computer system containing said GPU. If I were charging for the software, then there might be incentive to support other encoders/hardware. But, jdobbs does not. So, where is the incentive to do so? His focus is on nVideo GPU decoding/encoding. Obviously I cannot speak for jdobbs. This is my take.

[jdobbs]

No luck with keeping the internal subtitles. The job ends in two seconds. No output file is being written in the Working/Output path. Only the log and the lastcmd are there.

NVREENCODE.LOG:
----------------------
[07.16.23] NVENCC Reencoder v0.10.14
----------------------
[10.15.28]Start Job [1 of 1]
- Reencoding "Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv"
-- Collecting input file information...
-- Input : AVC, 1920x1080, 29.97fps
-- Output: Keep Original Video (Intact)
[10.15.30]Job Completed [1 of 1]

NVLASTCMD.TXT:
"C:\BD Rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\ffmpeg.exe" -i "E:\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv" -y -map 0:v:0 -c:v copy -map 0:a:0 -c:a:0 ac3 -b:a:0 224k -map 0:s:1 -c:s:0 copy "D:\WORK\Grantchester.S08E06.1080p.PBS.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-NTb.mkv"Have you tried running that command line from a COMMAND window to see what error you get? It looks ok to me. Can you tell me how many subtitles there are in the original file? It looks like it is attempting to copy the second one. If it only has one... that may be the issue.

[jdobbs]

Hello,

I want to ask if there are any plans to implement QSVEncC for encoding.
I tested with the Intel Arc A750 and had some promising results. Sorry. I won't say definitely "no", but not likely.

[musiclover]

Have you tried running that command line from a COMMAND window to see what error you get? It looks ok to me. Can you tell me how many subtitles there are in the original file? It looks like it is attempting to copy the second one. If it only has one... that may be the issue.

There is one subtitle in the file. But on a source file with seven subtitles I get the same result. The job finishes also in 2 seconds without writing the result file.

The error from the command line is this:

Stream map '0:s:1' matches no streams.
To ignore this, add a trailing '?' to the map.

But... could it be the '0:s:1' needs to be '0:s:0' ?

[jdobbs]

There is one subtitle in the file. But on a source file with seven subtitles I get the same result. The job finishes also in 2 seconds without writing the result file.

The error from the command line is this:

Stream map '0:s:1' matches no streams.
To ignore this, add a trailing '?' to the map.

But... could it be the '0:s:1' needs to be '0:s:0' ?Yes. That's why I asked. If there is only one subtitle it definitely needs to be "-map 0:s:0". I'll check it out and fix it. I wouldn't guess it would be too hard to find that issue.

[Lathe]

Thanks for all the help with my past efforts for the 'GUILTY CONSCIENCE' movie, it turned out better than I had expected.

Now... I have a REAL challenge if anyone has any 'easily implemented' suggestions :)

I have really old AVI files of the 1987 series 'Werewolf' There are no official sources with the exception of the recent French release which uses very similar SD sources since the original negatives are not available. I am also checking with some online sources where they offer DVD sets. The one at Rarefilmsondvd is promising because they offer an 8 DVD set, which would hopefully suggest fairly high quality, perhaps 1st generation recordings. Other sites offer 3 and 4 DVD sets. So, I'm waiting to hear back from them.

In the meantime though, I do have all the episodes in an ancient AVI format. I mean, considering, they aren't super horrible. But I was wanting to ask if there might be some suggestions as to some 'SIMPLE' scripts I might try to improve it. I don't really have to upscale it, I can leave it in it's original resolution and just let the player enlarge it.

Here is a 5 minute snippet of the first 5 minutes of the Pilot. If anyone has any SIMPLE suggestions (in other words AVI script that I can actually get to run :D) in order to help me to improve the video 'quality', I would be most thankful!

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Werewolf.mkv

Cheers!

Jaime.

[jdobbs]

I've made changes to fix further issues with inclusion of subtitles when using "Keep Original Video (Intact)" mode. You can download it from this link (https://jammernhilftnichts.de/jdobbs/NVENCCRE_v1015.zip).

[Lathe]

Thanks for all the help with my past efforts for the 'GUILTY CONSCIENCE' movie, it turned out better than I had expected.

Now... I have a REAL challenge if anyone has any 'easily implemented' suggestions :)

I have really old AVI files of the 1987 series 'Werewolf' There are no official sources with the exception of the recent French release which uses very similar SD sources since the original negatives are not available. I am also checking with some online sources where they offer DVD sets. The one at Rarefilmsondvd is promising because they offer an 8 DVD set, which would hopefully suggest fairly high quality, perhaps 1st generation recordings. Other sites offer 3 and 4 DVD sets. So, I'm waiting to hear back from them.

In the meantime though, I do have all the episodes in an ancient AVI format. I mean, considering, they aren't super horrible. But I was wanting to ask if there might be some suggestions as to some 'SIMPLE' scripts I might try to improve it. I don't really have to upscale it, I can leave it in it's original resolution and just let the player enlarge it.

Here is a 5 minute snippet of the first 5 minutes of the Pilot. If anyone has any SIMPLE suggestions (in other words AVI script that I can actually get to run :D) in order to help me to improve the video 'quality', I would be most thankful!

http://lathe-of-heaven.com/Werewolf.mkv

Cheers!

Jaime.

Actually, forget that :) I just downloaded the pilot and episodes from YouTube and I think that gives me a LOT more to work with, at least starting with it really scrubbed clean. I'll see if I can insert a snippet from that here. It's not bad...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_VDv9rI3y29BEfdR9RNcml11LWwxREMjNKGmA_fckqWh3nFPxO-jIHuKLuJYvBDDog7JXXJd9d8fpuw-tg4yZtemJ1W3rQRBfU3YO4dj5R98-0dqH3oForpt-ghkCMUnGlgJ9DjbHKa3n5LUoqz5EOuw=w936-h552-s-no?authuser=0

[MrVideo]

Don't bother uploading a snippet. Anyone here can download it from YouTube, which I did. Actually it isn't bad, not bad at all. Except for one major thing: it is 25fps. Originally it was 480i29.97. Don't attempt to restore it to 23.976. The interlacing is gone and frames were melded together to get to 25fps. Just watch it as is.

[musiclover]

I've made changes to fix further issues with inclusion of subtitles when using "Keep Original Video (Intact)" mode. You can download it from this link (https://jammernhilftnichts.de/jdobbs/NVENCCRE_v1015.zip).

Thank you for the update. My issue has now been solved.

[jdobbs]

Thank you for the update. My issue has now been solved.Good to know. Thanks for testing it.

[bjones]

@bjones

Well... looking at the code it looks like I never got around to adding the ffmpeg command line options that actually include the converted (SRT) subtitles that have been created from the graphical subs when using "Keep Original Video" is selected!! I guess that's what happens when you start something and then not go back to it for a while.

Thanks for looking into it and I'm old enough to not even remember how many projects I started on and got distracted in the middle of.

[bjones]

I've made changes to fix further issues with inclusion of subtitles when using "Keep Original Video (Intact)" mode. You can download it from this link (https://jammernhilftnichts.de/jdobbs/NVENCCRE_v1015.zip).

Gave the latest version a try at just converting the subtitles from PGS to SRT intact audio and video. Source is a mkv with 2 PGS subtitles over to a mp4 hopefully with just the subtitles converted. Still end up with a combined subtitle double chapter menu entry at the end. mediainfo's attached of the original and the resultant mp4. Another odd behavior is if the container isn't changed and left at mkv to mkv the PGS subtitles just get removed but the menu comes over cleanly along with the video and audio ?

[jdobbs]

Gave the latest version a try at just converting the subtitles from PGS to SRT intact audio and video. Source is a mkv with 2 PGS subtitles over to a mp4 hopefully with just the subtitles converted. Still end up with a combined subtitle double chapter menu entry at the end. mediainfo's attached of the original and the resultant mp4. Another odd behavior is if the container isn't changed and left at mkv to mkv the PGS subtitles just get removed but the menu comes over cleanly along with the video and audio ?I'll be honest -- I have no idea how the issue you are experiencing could even happen. I was unable to repeat it in my testing. Looking at your log, it looks like the jobs are completing in an extremely short period of time.

I've sent a PM to you. But
could you post the contents of NVLASTCMD.TXT right after the job has completed?

Also, are you simply letting NVENCCRE run, or are you adding any steps or doing anything externally to the files?

[bjones]

I'll be honest -- I have no idea how the issue you are experiencing could even happen. I was unable to repeat it in my testing. Looking at your log, it looks like the jobs are completing in an extremely short period of time.

I've sent a PM to you. But
could you post the contents of NVLASTCMD.TXT right after the job has completed?

Also, are you simply letting NVENCCRE run, or are you adding any steps or doing anything externally to the files?

Here's the NVLAST from the mkv to mkv that ends up with no subs at all afterwards. Doing nothing externally, just run the mkv through NVENCCRE with keep audio and video intact convert subs checked hoping for the subs to get converted from the embedded PGS ones to SRT ones.

[jdobbs]

Here's the NVLAST from the mkv to mkv that ends up with no subs at all afterwards. Doing nothing externally, just run the mkv through NVENCCRE with keep audio and video intact convert subs checked hoping for the subs to get converted from the embedded PGS ones to SRT ones.Are you sure you're using the latest version I posted? It would have to replace the one in the BD-RB folder. The NVLASTCMD file doesn't contain any command line options for subtitles.

[doobre]

Hi there, seems that BD-RB doesn't like one specific BD, and TsMuxer4K crashes everytime I try to process it.
Attached is the mediainfo report for the file as well as the .INF file created by BD-RB, that may be a help!?
The mkv was first ripped from the original disc by makemkv, I have repeated that process again, just in case, I have tried renaming the .mkv to something logical, I have overwriten the tsmuxer4k.exe in the v0.61.029 folder with that from the v0.61.028 folder, no improvement.
Ideas anyone..!?
here's hoping...
cheers CD

UPDATE..
I got makemkv to make a full backup of the original disc, and this time BD-RB completed its process from the BDMV folder structure.. yeehar

[bjones]

Are you sure you're using the latest version I posted? It would have to replace the one in the BD-RB folder. The NVLASTCMD file doesn't contain any command line options for subtitles.

Yes, it's the 10.15 version. That was the mkv to mkv I did last and the result is no subtitles at all, the PGS ones in the original mkv file are stripped out

[MrVideo]

I'm importing MKV files to make a BD. All went well. It will be a two disc run. The first disc will be files 1 -> 7 and the second disc will be files 8 -. 14. I import all 14 files and then deselect the bottom 7. Some changes were done to the text as well. I need to go back and move the location of the text on the menu. But, when I import the 14 files, it is as if I was starting from scratch. None of the changes that I did for the first run are there. So, I looked at the content of the "titles.inf" file and all of the work I did is there.

What would cause the titles file to be ignored? Is there a setting somewhere?

Oh, and it is version x.29.

[Dudeman007]

I'm trying to convert a Full SBS 3D file (ie a 3840x1080 2D file) to 3D MVC, but it's not working. I get the error

- [01:44:06] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
- TSMUXER ERR: 0xFFFFFFFE
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
- Can't open file: A:\VIDEO\HOBBIT\TEST\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.hevc

VID_00000.AVS.hevc does not exist, but VID_00000.AVS.h264 does exist.

BDR v0.61.28
I came across the same issue, and I found out why it happens, which appears to be a bug of sorts.

If your input file was encoded with x265 (HEVC), then the muxing script is looking for an HEVC output file, even though the output is only h264.

Considering that 3D Blu-rays can only be H264, the video file output will always be h264, regardless of input, and BD Rebuilder should be fixed to account for this.

If you want to fix this for now, you can re-encode your original SBS video using h264, then try again.

However, I can also tell you you will not get a proper MVC MKV file out of it, which I believe is what you're looking for.

BD Rebuilder will only build an ISO structure and encode the video into m2ts format for use with a BluRay player.

Another issue is the lack of SSIF support. Which I will discuss in the next post

[Dudeman007]

I've been trying to do what a previous user attempted, convert a full SBS 3D movie to a MVC MKV.

Someone posted on another Doom 9 forum that using BD Rebuilder should be able to do this, so I've been working on it now for a few days. Unfortunately, BD Rebuilder, has some limitations as to what it can and can't do.

What it can do: It can indeed convert a side by side (full or half) video file into a 3D Blu-Ray disc, which does play in a standalone Blu-Ray player.

What it Can't do: The resulting ISO file or folder structure, while it can play in Blu-Ray player when burned to a disk, the ISO itself is not playable in 3D with any software I know of, nor is it recognized as a 3D ISO or (a 3D BluRay disk) by any player or ripper. This appears to be due to the lack of the SSIF folder.

I tried playing it with KODI, MPC-HC, vLAN, Power DVD 19, Pot Player, Stereoscopic player, etc. The same Sony Blu-Ray player that can play the burned disk, plays the ISO in 2D only. The LG 3D TV built in media player can't play it either.

Additionally, Blu-Ray rippers or editors like DVDFab, BluDisc Studio or Xilisoft BluRay Creator do not recognize the disc as 3D discs.

I understand that a wile ago, there might have been some options to output the SSIF layout, but that was removed "because it's not needed" ???. I tried a few optional parameters in the CONFIG.INI, but none yielded the correct layout.

What actually worked: I found that I can use tsMuxeR to create the correct format. So I let BD Rebuilder create the ISO, but I don't use the resulting ISO file, I use the files from the WORKFILES directory, specifically the VID_xxx.264, the VID_xxx.mvc and the AUD_000.AC3 or DTS audio file, then mux them with tsMuxeR.

The resulting ISO (or Blu_ray folder) is properly formatted as 3D compliant ISO with SSIF folder. This ISO can then be played using any software player that supports 3D playback.

For those that want to get a MVC MKV, you can use any tool that can rip a 3D BluRay to MVC, because the ISO will be correctly recognized. I use DVDFab for this.

I wish I didn't have to go through all this to get a properly muxed 3D ISO. Can the option for SSIF layout be added back into BD Rebuilder? Also an option to output a muxed MVC MKV that's playable by itself and not dependent on a other files/isos, etc

[jdobbs]

The problem is in the players... not the layout or BD-RB. They just seem to be to lazy to support the format, even though it is a part of the standard. This has been discussed previously.

[MrVideo]

Dumb question... why not support using SSIF, especially if you had already done the work? Make it an option. I have some full SBS 3D trailers. I'll have to try and create a disc and see if the Sony X800-M2 player and the BenQ HT4550i will display as 3D.

Any thoughts on the titles.inf issue?

[Dudeman007]

The problem is in the players... not the layout or BD-RB. They just seem to be to lazy to support the format, even though it is a part of the standard. This has been discussed previously.
I understand what you are saying, but the reality is that I can't find a single software based player that can play this layout in 3D.

So while I do have an actual 3D Blu-Ray player, this also means that I would have a to physically make a BD disk for each 3D video I want to convert. Not exactly an realistic proposition.

I'm just saying, it shouldn't be that hard to re-create the SSIF structure and put the muxed video in there.

I for one don't do this very often, so it's no big deal, but if you want to be able to support more users at large (3D users), consider this small change. Or maybe add an option of outputting the video to a MVC MKV file

[MrVideo]

I'm just saying, it shouldn't be that hard to re-create the SSIF structure and put the muxed video in there.
Technically, AIUI the SSIF is a pointer file structure.

[Dudeman007]

Technically, AIUI the SSIF is a pointer file structure.
I admit, I have no idea how that stuff is really stored. I know that if I copy the contents of a 3D Blu-Ray to the hard drive I end up with a movie folder that's twice the size of the original disc, and I didn't think the ISO stores the files in compressed format, but the resulting copy, on the hard disk, has a multiplexed AVC/MVC file in the SSIF folder, which is the same size as the AVC & MVC streams in the main folder.

[MrVideo]

I admit, I have no idea how that stuff is really stored. I know that if I copy the contents of a 3D Blu-Ray to the hard drive I end up with a movie folder that's twice the size of the original disc, and I didn't think the ISO stores the files in compressed format, but the resulting copy, on the hard disk, has a multiplexed AVC/MVC file in the SSIF folder, which is the same size as the AVC & MVC streams in the main folder.
The copying causes the SSIF file to be built as you see it. The file has to be handled a particular way for it to be copied. From what I've read, only DVDFab does it. I'm sure there is other software out there that can make an ISO copy, since none of the files are actually copied.

[ocean]

Hi, yes Dvd Fab virtual drive, using the mini iso function, starting from a stereoscopic playlist, recreate the SSIF folder.

[jdobbs]

Dumb question... why not support using SSIF, especially if you had already done the work? Make it an option. I have some full SBS 3D trailers. I'll have to try and create a disc and see if the Sony X800-M2 player and the BenQ HT4550i will display as 3D.

Any thoughts on the titles.inf issue?It's not an easy thing to do. The sectors on the physical disc are referenced from separate sources.

[MrVideo]

It's not an easy thing to do.
I must have misunderstood previous postings. I thought you already had it working, but later removed it.

[Dudeman007]

It is my understanding that BD Rebuilder uses TSMuxer to mux and create the final ISO. I know that the latest version of TSMuxer can output a proper SSIF folder structure. So why doesn't BD RB use that functionality?

[MrVideo]

So why doesn't BD RB use that functionality?
Because it can't just be dropped in in place of what is currently being used. Things were changed in the program such that parts of BDRB become broken.

[Sharc]

I must have misunderstood previous postings. I thought you already had it working, but later removed it.
I guess you may have the changes of April 7th, 2014 in mind (from the CHANGES.TXT):

April 7th, 2014 - v0.47.04
- Implemented 3D Full Backup Mode. Note that
BD-RB converts 3D method so that the SSIF
folder is no longer required -- the method
is 100% compliant with the BD standard.
(v0.47.03)
- Due to the changes in the way 3D is handled,
BD-RB no longer outputs to ISO by default on
movie-only 3D encodes. It can be enabled by
using the OUTPUT_3D_ISO hidden option. Note:
This option only applies to movie-only 3D
encodes. (v0.47.03)
- Made in-mux (single M2TS) 3D multiplexing
mode the default on full-backup 3D. This
can be changed back with the hidden option
FORCE_INMUX_3D=0.
- Modified 3D movie-only mode so it also now
uses the in-mux structure for BD-3D output.

Otherwise just scan the CHANGES.TXT for 3D to trace all the changes and options.

[MrVideo]

I guess you may have the changes of April 7th, 2014 in mind (from the CHANGES.TXT):
- Implemented 3D Full Backup Mode. Note that
BD-RB converts 3D method so that the SSIF
folder is no longer required -- the method
is 100% compliant with the BD standard.
The wording makes it read as though SSIF output was part of BDRB, but was removed.

Even though it is supposed to be compliant, as pointed out above in a posting, a user can't find any software that will play said 3D without the SSIF file. Now that tsMuxer can do the SSIF work, all BDRB needs to do is use the latest verion.