BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

yes it is, here's a log.
[Status]
LABEL=JURASSIC_PARK_1993_BLU-RAY
VERSION=v0.39.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42480602907
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42093699072
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.576205767127122
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;fra;fre;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=27
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00800]
AUDIO=100
PGS=10101
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=20448571994
RATE=13921
NSTART=27000000
NEND=368846400
NSIZE=19620845568
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Does everything check out? Are you doing a full backup or movie-and-menus? Since it says 27 files were processed I assume movie-and-menus...

[Chuckwagon]

Thanks for the analysis and feedback. Now it makes complete sense. When subtitles are removed, the references to them aren't actually removed -- only the subtitle stream itself. In order to prevent "goofy" behaviour (by BD-J or pre/post commands), the references to removed streams are kept intact but are all modified to point to the first kept subtitle stream. So when yours tries to turn on title 3 -- it's actually turning on title 1.

While it's completely legal to do it that way, the more common method is to have a single stream of subtitles -- but set the "force on" flag for instances that are required (like foreign languages such as Klingon). That's probably the reason this happens so rarely. I personally never see it because I always keep all subtitles.

Unfortunately there's really no way I can think of to know when this is being done.

It seems like this should be an uncommon occurrence, so if it cannot be "fixed," at least we know how to work around it. And so long as the behavior is known, the next time anyone asks about it they can be pointed in this direction to try to deal with it.

Just spitballing here to see if there's any way to deal with this. When there is more than one subtitle track for a given language, and the setting to "Limit to one track for each language" is set, how does BDRB decide which single track to use? (Also, is that the default setting, to keep just one track? I forget if I set it that way or not.) I noticed when I play the original disc that the player defaults to the 3rd English subtitle track. Is that behavior set by the disc itself? How does the player know the right one to use? Is that something that BDRB could see and use to decide which track it keeps?

[MrT.]

There was 3 Vid_'s, (00301,02,03) that BDRB did not choose to blank, I figured this was due to their size, 2,377.77(25min), 2,027.89(49 min) and 1,893.73(20 min) MB. I forced blanked them. They are Extra's "The making of". If it's not the size, why else would they not be blanked by BDRB?

[Chuckwagon]

There was 3 Vid_'s, (00301,02,03) that BDRB did not choose to blank, I figured this was due to their size, 2,377.77, 2,027.89 and 1,893.73 MB. I forced blanked them. They are Extra's "The making of". If it's not the size, why else would they not be blanked by BDRB?

I think the blanking is based on the length in time of the given playlist, not on file size. The BLANK_THRESHOLD= value in the config file will determine at what length the blanking will cut in. It's in seconds. So, for example, if it is set to BLANK_THRESHOLD=1800 it will blank any playlist shorter than 30 minutes. If you want only the main movie, set it to something like 4000 and unless you have an extra that's REALLY long, it should blank all but the main movie. If that isn't right I'm sure JDobbs will correct me. :)

[MrT.]

I see..I edited my post and inserted their play times. Changing the threshold to 50 minutes would be good in my case?

[Chuckwagon]

I see..I edited my post and inserted their play times. Changing the threshold to 50 minutes would be good in my case?

If all of your extras are shorter than 50 mins, then I would assume it would blank them all and leave just the main movie.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a new release of BD Rebuilder (v0.39.02). Changes for this version:- Updated SD to HD 1280x720 processing to keep
the 23.976fps rate when inverse telecining is
in effect rather than create a 59.94fps stream.
- Improved IVTC method for MPEG-2 sources.
- Added a hidden setting that will allow output
of 480p @ 23.976fps on sources that were IVTC'd.
Note: While this mode works on almost all
players, it violates the BD standard and should
only be used with that full knowledge. To enable
set "SD_PROGRESSIVE=1" in the OPTIONS are of the
INI/Config file.
- Corrected an issue in which telecined MPEG-2
sources may not always be IVTC'd when the IVTC
option is selected.
- Corrected an issue that could, under very rare
circumstances cause audio desynchronization on
telecined sources.
- Corrected a rare instance in which the CLPI
packet count variable could be wrong for menus
that have been reencoded.
- Fixed an issue in which multipart DTS sources
may not encode to AC3 correctly when movie-only
output is selected. Rare but possible.
- Updated checks so secondary video will not be
unnecessarily run through X264 when the hidden
option "FORCE_NOENCODE" is set.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r2106).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE to
the latest release (r2106).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[jdobbs]

For those who like a challenge and are anxious to finally get DTS-Express secondary audio tracks working -- I need your help.

I have implemented the ability to reintegrate DTS Express tracks into the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.39.02). But it still needs work, so I've limited it so it is enabled only through a hidden switch.

In my testing I have found that it works correctly when playing back on some players (both of my Samsung standalone players) but fails to play on others (Sony BDP-S360). I have gone over the code and files exhaustively, and I'm at a loss as to what is incorrect about the implementation. So I'm asking for your help. Please test it, dump it, scan it with other software, anything. If you pick up on any clues as to what might be dodgy about it -- please post what you find.

To enable the DTS Express code, add "DTSX_ENABLE=1" to your config/INI file. Note also that this fix is designed to correct any issues with in-mux IGS streams that are as well, but I've not done enough testing of that feature to determine its effectiveness yet.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.

[MrT.]

@jdobbs, thanks for the update!
@chuckwagon, I entered BLANK_THRESHOLD into config and used 4000, the 3 files were blanked :) I'm gonna try again, hopefully the finished product is 20-21 GB, give or take.

Edit 22.0 GB ! :) thanks for the guidance, guys.

[drmih]

For those who like a challenge and are anxious to finally get DTS-Express secondary audio tracks working -- I need your help.

I have implemented the ability to reintegrate DTS Express tracks into the latest version of BD Rebuilder (v0.39.02). But it still needs work, so I've limited it so it is enabled only through a hidden switch.

In my testing I have found that it works correctly when playing back on some players (both of my Samsung standalone players) but fails to play on others (Sony BDP-S360). I have gone over the code and files exhaustively, and I'm at a loss as to what is incorrect about the implementation. So I'm asking for your help. Please test it, dump it, scan it with other software, anything. If you pick up on any clues as to what might be dodgy about it -- please post what you find.

To enable the DTS Express code, add "DTSX_ENABLE=1" to your config/INI file. Note also that this fix is designed to correct any issues with in-mux IGS streams that are as well, but I've not done enough testing of that feature to determine its effectiveness yet.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.

Although the Sonys were brilliant as the first machines which handled BD-9 on a range of discs, and which I started with, I have long since moved to other players and found much better playback. Even now the Sony still struggles with some branching discs, and with PiP in general, so would the first logical step be to see on what players your code works? Given most machines handle bd-25, we could then see if the Samsungs are the exception, or the Sonys?

[xterminater]

@xterminater

When you did the movie-and-menus backup of "Lion King" did you use the blanked selections set by BD-RB, or did you do any additional blank/unblank editing?

The blank setting used by dvd-rb removed some extra features that I wanted so I did a preview of what I want and unblank the ones I wanted. I didn't do anything else outside of bd-rb. I just tried another back up of an asian bluray but it's oversized as well.

[jdobbs]

Although the Sonys were brilliant as the first machines which handled BD-9 on a range of discs, and which I started with, I have long since moved to other players and found much better playback. Even now the Sony still struggles with some branching discs, and with PiP in general, so would the first logical step be to see on what players your code works? Given most machines handle bd-25, we could then see if the Samsungs are the exception, or the Sonys? The Sony plays the original fine -- so I'm convinced there is some (probably minor) inconsistency in either the M2TS, the CLPI, or MPLS of the backup. I'm just not sure what it might be. I've been going over it without finding anything wrong for over two weeks now, and I decided I need some help. There comes a point at which you're too close to the code and it becomes difficult to see what's right in front of you. I'm hoping someone is either smarter than me or has access to a verifier or some other software consistency checker that might point me in the right direction.

[drmih]

The Sony plays the original fine -- so I'm convinced there is some (probably minor) inconsistency in either the M2TS, the CLPI, or MPLS of the backup. I'm just not sure what it might be. I've been going over it without finding anything wrong for over two weeks now, and I decided I need some help. There comes a point at which you're too close to the code and it becomes difficult to see what's right in front of you. I'm hoping someone is either smarter than me or has access to a verifier or some other software consistency checker that might point me in the right direction.

What I was suggesting is that even without this feature, I do find that some titles don't play properly on the Sony. There are several branching ones but from memory the original Star Trek series have problems when converted to bd-9. When you play an episode with a combination of new CGI and original, the audio suddenly vanishes when changing and then comes back again later. The bd-9 play fine on other non-Sony machines. Therefore it may be related to the same issue.

[Ch3vr0n]

I'll gladly test the DTS-E option. Glad you finally found a way to do it. I've got plenty of discs waiting to be tested. I'll get to work asap. Check your PM to take your pick for a test disc.

** Edit: something that i've already noticed is that combined with the blanking feature, the preview message doesnt always get updated. normally when you preview a blanked feature it changes stream number, however with 39.02 it didnt and sometimes stayed at the first stream till it finally updated to another stream and from that point on updated like it should. "Extracting A/V streams: ....", preview itself was unaffected. Maybe that is part of the problem? **

[colinhunt]

To enable the DTS Express code, add "DTSX_ENABLE=1" to your config/INI file. Note also that this fix is designed to correct any issues with in-mux IGS streams that are as well, but I've not done enough testing of that feature to determine its effectiveness yet.
Fantastic, thank you! I have quite a pile of players here; I'll start testing this ASAP and will report on how various players coped with it.

[Capsbackup]

For those who like a challenge and are anxious to finally get DTS-Express secondary audio tracks working -- I need your help.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.

I will test it out as well, and will let you know my findings. :)
My only two players are a Sony BX1 and the S360, so my results should be similar to yours! ;)

[drmih]

I have the following PiP Discs and will make my way through them - let me know if any have already been tested.

Animal House
Battlestar Galactica - S1 D1
Children of Men
Doctor Who - S5 - All Discs
Harry Potter 7 - Part 1
Indiana Jones 4
Let Me In
Mummy - All 3 Movies
Nightmare on Elm Street - New
Scarface
Terminator - All 4 Movies
The Omen
The Pacific - D 1 to 5
The Thing
True Blood - All 3 Series
Young Frankenstein

[Ch3vr0n]

For reference, the following R2 (belgium) discs with DTS-E will be tested by me

Red Riding Hood encoding atm ** edit 24/10 01.19am ** Test 1 completed with success. Remuxing worked flawlessley, Audio 100% in sync, for the clips i watched, ill be viewing the movie completely later today. ** edit 21.57 ** Final testing completed. PiP behaviour 100% in sync throughout entire movie
Fast & Furious 1 through 5
World invasion: Battle LA ** edit 28/10 15.12 ** encode & testing completed. pip fully functional. Some disc skipping with & without pip active
Hulk (2003) ** edit 28/10 19.32 ** encode & testing completed. Pip functional but with quite some artifacts in pip stream (VC-1)
Last Airbender ** edit 24/10 21.57 ** Encode running **edit 25/10 15.32. ** Encode & Final testing completed. Pip 100% functional
RED ** edit 28/10 15.12 ** encode & testing completed. pip fully functional
Harry Potter 7
Mamma Mia ** edit 24/10 21.57 ** final testing completed. PiP fully functional as expected
Priest ** edit 25/10 15.32 ** encode & final testing completed. Pip 100% functional

Testing Equipment: Panasonic DMP-BD85

[Capsbackup]

First test is with Wanted, and though it reencodes and successfully makes a backup to BD-25 and burned to a BD-RE, the results are the secondary video plays on my S360, but no secondary audio is heard. :(
The DTS-HD Master audio is heard, and the volume of this track does lower during playback at the correct time that the secondary audio file should be heard. But no secondary audio plays.

Note: At least for Sony players, you must change the settings for the audio playback to "Mixed" rather than "Direct" for PiP/secondary audio to work correctly! ;)

[jdobbs]

First test is with Wanted, and though it reencodes and successfully makes a backup to BD-25 and burned to a BD-RE, the results are the secondary video plays on my S360, but no secondary audio is heard. :(
The DTS-HD Master audio is heard, and the volume of this track does lower during playback at the correct time that the secondary audio file should be heard. But no secondary audio plays.

Note: At least for Sony players, you must change the settings for the audio playback to "Mixed" rather than "Direct" for PiP/secondary audio to work correctly! ;) Yeah, that's exactly what I see on my S360.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Original Blu-ray disc shows secondary video as "Profile HIGH 3.2", while BD-RB conversion shows secondary video as "Profile MAIN 3.2".

Does this have any bearing on playback of PIP/DTS Express?

[aquanash]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a new release of BD Rebuilder (v0.39.02).

Just wanted to report I re-ran "Hobo with a Shotgun" with this new version and audio is out of synch exactly as with the previous version.

[setarip_old]

For DTS Express testing on my SONY 360:

Just completed a 25Gb (BD-R, to make certain no disparity vis-a-vis BD-RE) backup of "Source Code". Results were similar to those noted by Capsbackup. Secondary video appeared and behaved properly, but was silent. From what I was able to discern, the primary audio was not diminished at all.

Just to "keep 'em honest", I also made a "BD9". The results were as disappointing as I expected (based on past results with other PIP Blu-rays (NOT DTS Express) - no audio whatsoever (Not even available with the remote) and empty PIP frames.

[SquallMX]

I don't know if it matters but DTSXTEMP.avs is buggy, "frames" is not a argument for BlankClip.

BlankClip(frames=6,fps=23.976, stereo=true, audio_rate=48000)

The correct one should be:

BlankClip(length=6,fps=23.976, stereo=true, audio_rate=48000)

Otherwise dummy AC3 is mono 32ms instead of stereo 250ms. :helpful:

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Original Blu-ray disc shows secondary video as "Profile HIGH 3.2", while BD-RB conversion shows secondary video as "Profile MAIN 3.2".

Does this have any bearing on playback of PIP/DTS Express? No, it wouldn't. Likely the only difference is that some feature unique to HIGH profile (4x4 transform maybe?) was used in the original that wasn't in the backup.

[jdobbs]

Just wanted to report I re-ran "Hobo with a Shotgun" with this new version and audio is out of synch exactly as with the previous version. Yeah, I'm working on that one. The playlist's first M2TS has video that is longer than its audio -- but has the same start time. I have to modify BD-RB so that it adjusts for that possiblity when the multipart playlist has a connection_condition that doesn't require sync between the parts. This is the first disc I've ever seen where that is the case.

[jdobbs]

I don't know if it matters but DTSXTEMP.avs is buggy, "frames" is not a argument for BlankClip.



The correct one should be:



Otherwise dummy AC3 is mono 32ms instead of stereo 250ms. :helpful: Ok. I'll take a look at that. But it really doesn't matter. It's just creating a placeholder there that will be updated to match the DTS Express profile after it is reintegrated. I'm probably going to change the way that works at some point anyway. But that was a good catch.

[colinhunt]

Ran a Full Backup of Stand By Me (EU, Sony) using High-Speed BD25 option (2 passes). It finished a few minutes ago, and I ran the first playback test using a Dune HD Max directly off the encoding PC's shared directory over CIFS/SMB. I first set Dune's audio Setup to allow PiP mixing, and the Full Backup appears to be working perfectly; both the PiP image and its DTS Express audio play fine. I'll burn the backup on a BD-RE next and start testing it in stand-alone players.

edit: Something interesting happened on the PS3 (old Fatty one, disconnected from the 'net). Note: this might have something to do with me using a BD-RE disc.

I started the movie by selecting PiP commentary in Special Features Menu. When this feature is selected, disc plays a brief video clip of the meeting of the director and a couple of actors, followed by the actual movie. Now, PiP video and audio are both already active during the clip but contain nothing (same on the original disc) so only main video and audio are playing. When movie starts, PiP window pops up at the 10 second mark approximately.

On the PS3, playback was interrupted at approx. 1 minute into the video clip with a message "This Disc is Invalid". I returned to PS3 XMB and restarted the disc, selected PiP commentary under Special Features and used the Next Chapter button to skip the video clip to start the actual movie. Again, after approx. 1 minute playback is interrupted with the "Disc is invalid" error message.

Same thing happens on the newer PS3 Slim.

edit: No problems on a Sony S470, PiP worked beautifully. Ditto on an LG BX580 (surprise, because it's a piece of crap player).

edit: It's a no go on an Oppo BDP-83. Loads Main Menu but once PiP is selected and the video clip is supposed to start, player gets stuck at 0:00:06.

edit: First attempt on a Philips 9500 resulted in PiP video playing OK but audio was from movie. Went to player settings and switched HDMI audio to AUTO, restarted disc playback, and both PiP video and audio play fine.

[setarip_old]

Just completed and burned a 25Gb Full Disc backup of "Band of Brothers" Disc 1 Episodes 1 and 2. Each episode contains TWO DTS Express audiostreams - one for an interactive "field guide" (including some PIP movies and video) and the other for PIP (with video inserts) commentary by the real life heroes of this series.

Playback on SONY 360 yielded results identical to my earlier test using "Source Code" - each of the two types of secondary video (inserts) displayed properly, but without any secondary audio. Primary audio continued to play with no noticeable volume reduction.

[jdobbs]

Interesting... from the reports I've seen so far it is only the Sony players that previously had issues with PiP on DVD-9 that are seeing issues with the reintegrated DTS Express now. It's gotta' be some minor difference. Unfortunately I've been comparing the original and the copy and that difference hasn't shown itself yet.

[jdobbs]

Ran a Full Backup of Stand By Me (EU, Sony) using High-Speed BD25 option (2 passes). It finished a few minutes ago, and I ran the first playback test using a Dune HD Max directly off the encoding PC's shared directory over CIFS/SMB. I first set Dune's audio Setup to allow PiP mixing, and the Full Backup appears to be working perfectly; both the PiP image and its DTS Express audio play fine. I'll burn the backup on a BD-RE next and start testing it in stand-alone players.

edit: Something interesting happened on the PS3 (old Fatty one, disconnected from the 'net). Note: this might have something to do with me using a BD-RE disc.

I started the movie by selecting PiP commentary in Special Features Menu. When this feature is selected, disc plays a brief video clip of the meeting of the director and a couple of actors, followed by the actual movie. Now, PiP video and audio are both already active during the clip but contain nothing (same on the original disc) so only main video and audio are playing. When movie starts, PiP window pops up at the 10 second mark approximately.

On the PS3, playback was interrupted at approx. 1 minute into the video clip with a message "This Disc is Invalid". I returned to PS3 XMB and restarted the disc, selected PiP commentary under Special Features and used the Next Chapter button to skip the video clip to start the actual movie. Again, after approx. 1 minute playback is interrupted with the "Disc is invalid" error message.

Same thing happens on the newer PS3 Slim.

edit: No problems on a Sony S470, PiP worked beautifully. Ditto on an LG BX580 (surprise, because it's a piece of crap player).

edit: It's a no go on an Oppo BDP-83. Loads Main Menu but once PiP is selected and the video clip is supposed to start, player gets stuck at 0:00:06. Hopefully someone else out there will try it on a PS3 so we can judge better whether it is the BD-RE that is the issue or something in the muxing.

[drmih]

I've completed two Universal titles, The Mummy and The Thing, to bd-25. I've tried them on a Sony, LG, Samsung and Panasonic. The only one which played the PiP with audio was the Panasonic. All played okay, and produced the PiP window at the correct time. I'm now trying non-Universal titles.

I will try other models but to date:
Sony 360 / LG BD370 / Samsung C6500 + D8500 / Panasonic BS-750

[jdobbs]

I've completed two Universal titles, The Mummy and The Thing, to bd-25. I've tried them on a Sony, LG, Samsung and Panasonic. The only one which played the PiP with audio was the Panasonic. All played okay, and produced the PiP window at the correct time. I'm now trying non-Universal titles.

Can you tell me the model #'s of the players?

[colinhunt]

Ran a Very Fast 1-pass (ABR) Full Backup of Risky Business (EU). Secondary audio is Dolby Digital Plus instead of DTS Express, actually.

Something appears to have gone wrong with Seconday video (PiP video stream). While the PiP window opens properly, the video is quite riddled with artefacts during horizontal movement. Here's the relevant bit from bd-rebuilder.log:

[19:31:23] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:31:23] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 6)
- [19:31:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:41:55] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- [19:41:55] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 142 633 frames
- Bitrate: 16 944 Kbs
- [19:48:51] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [21:08:20] Video Encode complete

Re-checked original: no such artefacts in Secondary video.

[colinhunt]

Hopefully someone else out there will try it on a PS3 so we can judge better whether it is the BD-RE that is the issue or something in the muxing.
I'll run another encode of this using high quality settings tonight and will burn it on a BD-R tomorrow. I'm pretty sure PS3 issues are caused by BD-RE.

[colinhunt]

I've completed two Universal titles, The Mummy and The Thing, to bd-25. I've tried them on a Sony, LG, Samsung and Panasonic. The only one which played the PiP with audio was the Panasonic. All played okay, and produced the PiP window at the correct time. I'm now trying non-Universal titles.
Did you make sure the audio settings of all players were set for PiP audio?

[drmih]

Did you make sure the audio settings of all players were set for PiP audio?

No - it was a bit rushed when I got in this evening. I will check again later.

[Ch3vr0n]

For Anyone out there using a Panasonic DMP-BD85 or similar device. Below are my settings. In the setup menu go to audio. The top 3 options are in my case set to "bitstream" and the bottom option below the long text "BD Video Secondairy Audio" i think it is labelled, set to "on". My PiP's work flawlessly with those settings.

[SquallMX]

Tested Ridley Scott's Robin Hood Latin America Blu-ray (PiP and Multiangle):


TotalMedia Theater 5 plays everything OK
PowerDVD 11 don't play the PiP Audio
PlayStation 3 plays PiP audio and video but with occasional hiccups, and skips the first 2-3 seconds of each M2TS with PiP causing temporal freezing even during normal viewing
Media Player Classic Home Cinema can not render the M2TS files
BDInfo reports the M2TS files with PiP as corrupted or encrypted


:helpful:

Even in this alpha stage is more compatible than DVDFab solution :cool:.

[drmih]

I'm not sure if there is anything to learn, but I have done The Mummy with the latest version and DVDFab. With BD-Rebuilder, on all bar the Panasonic so far, I don't get the secondary audio, but DVDFab has always got the audio correct but never shows the PiP. Therefore is there something which can be compared between the two to look for differences?

ps Off topic a bit but the copy done with BD-RB suffers from lots of motion glitches / blocks of pixels even though bd-25.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @drmih

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe Universal uses DTS Express for its "UControl/PIP" activity...

[jdobbs]

Tested Ridley Scott's Robin Hood Latin America Blu-ray (PiP and Multiangle):


TotalMedia Theater 5 plays everything OK
PowerDVD 11 don't play the PiP Audio
PlayStation 3 plays PiP audio and video but with occasional hiccups, and skips the first 2-3 seconds of each M2TS with PiP causing temporal freezing even during normal viewing
Media Player Classic Home Cinema can not render the M2TS files
BDInfo reports the M2TS files with PiP as corrupted or encrypted


:helpful:

Even in this alpha stage is more compatible than DVDFab solution :cool:. Hmm... BDINFO says the M2TS is corrupt, eh? That might be a place to look. Does it say how it is corrupted?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs, @drmih

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe Universal uses DTS Express for its "UControl/PIP" activity... It does on at least some... I've been testing using Universal's "Scorpion King" with DTS-Express and U-Control.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Silly me - maybe my grandkids are right about this "age thing".

As you know, I recently tested "American Graffiti" for DTS Express performance ;>}

[jdobbs]

Tested Ridley Scott's Robin Hood Latin America Blu-ray (PiP and Multiangle):


TotalMedia Theater 5 plays everything OK
PowerDVD 11 don't play the PiP Audio
PlayStation 3 plays PiP audio and video but with occasional hiccups, and skips the first 2-3 seconds of each M2TS with PiP causing temporal freezing even during normal viewing
Media Player Classic Home Cinema can not render the M2TS files
BDInfo reports the M2TS files with PiP as corrupted or encrypted


:helpful:

Even in this alpha stage is more compatible than DVDFab solution :cool:. Hmmm... I just ran BDINFO on a couple of discs I'm testing and it's not finding anything corrupted. :confused:

Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or encrypted before running?

[Capsbackup]

Tried another test of Wanted, which is also a Universal title with U-Control and DTS-Express, but this time I kept all audio files. Same result as first test on my S360, no audio is heard.
It does play the secondary audio correctly with TMT3, but no secondary audio is heard with PowerDVD9.

[SquallMX]

Hmmm... I just ran BDINFO on a couple of discs I'm testing and it's not finding anything corrupted. :confused:

Are you sure your source isn't corrupted or encrypted before running?

Nope, here the scan of my original disc:

http://home.squallmx.operaunite.com/FS/content/BDINFO.ROBIN_HOOD_G52.txt

Here the one created by rebuilder:

http://home.squallmx.operaunite.com/FS/content/BDINFO.ROBIN_HOOD_G52%20(BD-25).txt

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1261/bdinfo.png

I can upload M2TS files if that is helpful.

[jdobbs]

Nope, here the scan of my original disc:

http://home.squallmx.operaunite.com/FS/content/BDINFO.ROBIN_HOOD_G52.txt

Here the one created by rebuilder:

http://home.squallmx.operaunite.com/FS/content/BDINFO.ROBIN_HOOD_G52%20(BD-25).txt

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1261/bdinfo.png

I can upload M2TS files if that is helpful.That log doesn't even indicate that the DTS-Express has been reintegrated. What version of Robin Hood is this? Kevin Costner, Animated, Errol Flynn, Russell Crowe?

[SquallMX]

Is the 2010 version with Russell Crowe.

DTS Express is indicated on the log of the Rebuilder BD-25:



DISC INFO:

Disc Title: ROBIN_HOOD_G52
Disc Size: 24,443,466,966 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00802.MPLS
Length: 2:35:48 (h:m:s)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9
* MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS Audio English 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz
DTS Audio Portuguese 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz
DTS Audio Spanish 0 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz
* DTS Express English 0 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Hungarian 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Polish 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Thai 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Turkish 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Croatian 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Greek 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Romanian 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Slovenian 0.000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics English 0.000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0.000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics Polish 0.000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics Russian 0.000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics Greek 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Hungarian 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Russian 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Thai 0.000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Turkish 0.000 kbps

Here the Rebuilder INF and LOG:

http://admin.home.squallmx.operaunite.com/FS/content/BD-REBUILDER.LOG
http://admin.home.squallmx.operaunite.com/FS/content/ROBIN_HOOD_G52.INF

I will try again on other machine.

[jdobbs]

Yes... it appears to be in the MPLS but not in the stream. It looks like something went wrong in that one. I'll give it a go.