BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[setarip_old]

@meadrocks

Hi!With BD-RD 25.1 I did a whole disk of Coraline US.May I ask how this can be? According to Amazon.com:This item will be released on Jul 21, 2009

[meadrocks]

@meadrocks

Hi!May I ask how this can be? According to Amazon.com:

Eh, my dvd rental store puts em out early.

[drmih]

You may want to give the forum rules a once over (and those titles have also amazingly just appeared on newsgroups)!

[DK]

Bear with me if it has been answered before, but I ran into the following problem for the first time ever today:

Latest BD-RB version 25.01 did NOT open the structure of a bd on my harddrive. First i thought that maybe re-ripping might help but i did not.

Will an LPCM stream as first audio stream (AC3/DTS also present on this music bd) make bd-rb behave this way?

When using BD-25 I have no option for any selection (input is 42+ gb); with BD-9 there is the usual structure available.

c.f. attached screenshots.

[kanerulz69]

i encoded Friday the 13th (2009) killer cut to bd-25 and i used the 1 pass high quality default and it did fine couldnt tell a difference

and i jus did Fargo bd-25 with one pass as well but decided to use the high speed option and it was REALLY REALLY blocky / pixelated

[chudm]

pretty strange man, i had done several rips with high quality, and high speed to bd25 in full backup mode with excellent quality!

it only takes with my e8400 (core to duo 3.0 ghz) between 4-6 hours to do the whole bd! i did bolt, ratatouille, transformers, batman begins, underworld 3, death race, and all look excellent on my lcds :)

[kanerulz69]

pretty strange man, i had done several rips with high quality, and high speed to bd25 in full backup mode with excellent quality!

it only takes with my e8400 (core to duo 3.0 ghz) between 4-6 hours to do the whole bd! i did bolt, ratatouille, transformers, batman begins, underworld 3, death race, and all look excellent on my lcds :)

I have an AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50ghz 4GB Ram, 32bit OS and it take 4hrs & 45min to do that movie which isnt bad it usually takes 27hrs to do it with normal encoding 2pass, i dunno if its the 1 pass or the high speed that made it pixelated? so im going to do it 1 pass with default and see if that helps and if not then i'll try 2pass and see

[chudm]

i set the default quality option(high quality), and only select the high speed to bd-25 and works perfect with all the movies i said before

[kanerulz69]

i set the default quality option(high quality), and only select the high speed to bd-25 and works perfect with all the movies i said before

so u do 1 pass encoding or 2pass?

[kanerulz69]

also i always use quicker for encodes checked which im sure that doesnt do anything with quality jus gets the extras out of the way quicker

[chudm]

i dont use the one pass mode, just high speed mode

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

After yet again using the "One pass (Experimental)" and DVD5 settings for a movie-only version of "The Happening" (with one language stream and all subs) and yielding a ridiculously small 1.8Gb file (of reasonably good video quality!), a thought/question occurred to me.

In your calculations for the "One pass (Experimental)", are you possibly first excluding from available for video filesize ALL audiostreams at their full initial filesizes?

[MILLZY]

I just need some clarafication on a encoder setting,When using the high speed option is the quality setting automatically set to high quality or is it set to lesser quality because its faster :confused:

[kanerulz69]

I just need some clarafication on a encoder setting,When using the high speed option is the quality setting automatically set to high quality or is it set to lesser quality because its faster :confused:

good question for me i havent had any good resluts using it but blocky pixelation etc, so doing it in high quality default resluts look way much better

[MILLZY]

Just recieved this error on watchmen full backup and at high speed option:

-----------------------
[14:39:44] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN DIRECTOR'S CUT.2009.
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[14:39:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [14:39:46] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- [14:39:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [14:39:50] Reencoding: VID_00500 (2 of 50)
- [14:40:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
- [14:40:09] Reencoding: VID_00600 (3 of 50)
- [14:40:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
- [14:41:06] Reencoding: VID_00501 (4 of 50)
- [14:42:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [14:42:40] Reencoding: VID_00205 (5 of 50)
- [14:47:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14:47:36] Reencoding: VID_00000 (6 of 50)
- [14:50:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00604]
- [14:51:07] Reencoding: VID_00604 (7 of 50)
- [14:52:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00606]
- [14:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00606 (8 of 50)
- [14:55:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [14:55:32] Reencoding: VID_00010 (9 of 50)
- [15:07:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00208]
- [15:07:35] Reencoding: VID_00208 (10 of 50)
- [15:13:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00209]
- [15:14:02] Reencoding: VID_00209 (11 of 50)
- [15:20:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
- [15:21:15] Reencoding: VID_00202 (12 of 50)
- [15:27:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
- [15:28:05] Reencoding: VID_00207 (13 of 50)
- [15:34:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00206]
- [15:34:51] Reencoding: VID_00206 (14 of 50)
- [15:41:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00610]
- [15:42:19] Reencoding: VID_00610 (15 of 50)
- [15:45:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00603]
- [15:45:29] Reencoding: VID_00603 (16 of 50)
- [15:48:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00204]
- [15:49:02] Reencoding: VID_00204 (17 of 50)
- [15:56:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00200]
- [15:57:05] Reencoding: VID_00200 (18 of 50)
- [16:03:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00210]
- [16:04:11] Reencoding: VID_00210 (19 of 50)
- [16:10:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00201]
- [16:11:06] Reencoding: VID_00201 (20 of 50)
- [16:17:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00608]
- [16:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00608 (21 of 50)
- [16:20:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00605]
- [16:21:20] Reencoding: VID_00605 (22 of 50)
- [16:24:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00203]
- [16:24:31] Reencoding: VID_00203 (23 of 50)
- [16:31:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00509]
- [16:32:23] Reencoding: VID_00509 (24 of 50)
- [16:35:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00602]
- [16:36:05] Reencoding: VID_00602 (25 of 50)
- [16:38:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00609]
- [16:39:25] Reencoding: VID_00609 (26 of 50)
- [16:42:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00607]
- [16:42:47] Reencoding: VID_00607 (27 of 50)
- [16:45:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00601]
- [16:46:22] Reencoding: VID_00601 (28 of 50)
- [16:49:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [16:50:06] Reencoding: VID_00513 (29 of 50)
- [16:53:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00502]
- [16:53:54] Reencoding: VID_00502 (30 of 50)
- [16:55:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00521]
- [16:56:29] Reencoding: VID_00521 (31 of 50)
- [17:00:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [17:01:14] Reencoding: VID_00511 (32 of 50)
- [17:06:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
- [17:06:43] Reencoding: VID_00507 (33 of 50)
- [17:10:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00519]
- [17:11:36] Reencoding: VID_00519 (34 of 50)
- [17:16:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00517]
- [17:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00517 (35 of 50)
- [17:22:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- [17:23:03] Reencoding: VID_00505 (36 of 50)
- [17:27:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [17:28:40] Reencoding: VID_00503 (37 of 50)
- [17:33:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00520]
- [17:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00520 (38 of 50)
- [17:38:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00523]
- [17:38:59] Reencoding: VID_00523 (39 of 50)
- [17:46:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00515]
- [17:47:24] Reencoding: VID_00515 (40 of 50)
- [17:53:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00510]
- [17:54:37] Reencoding: VID_00510 (41 of 50)
- [17:58:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00611]
- [17:59:56] Reencoding: VID_00611 (42 of 50)
- [18:06:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00508]
- [18:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00508 (43 of 50)
- [18:12:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00518]
- [18:15:54] Reencoding: VID_00518 (44 of 50)
- [18:29:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00522]
- [18:33:01] Reencoding: VID_00522 (45 of 50)
- [18:49:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00504]
- [18:53:13] Reencoding: VID_00504 (46 of 50)
- [19:09:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00516]
- [19:14:14] Reencoding: VID_00516 (47 of 50)
- [19:34:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00506]
- [19:39:56] Reencoding: VID_00506 (48 of 50)
- [19:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00512]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
[19:50:29] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Any ideas?

[jdobbs]

i encoded Friday the 13th (2009) killer cut to bd-25 and i used the 1 pass high quality default and it did fine couldnt tell a difference

and i jus did Fargo bd-25 with one pass as well but decided to use the high speed option and it was REALLY REALLY blocky / pixelated It depends on the size of the source. But generally for BD-25 you're in pretty good shape.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

After yet again using the "One pass (Experimental)" and DVD5 settings for a movie-only version of "The Happening" (with one language stream and all subs) and yielding a ridiculously small 1.8Gb file (of reasonably good video quality!), a thought/question occurred to me.

In your calculations for the "One pass (Experimental)", are you possibly first excluding from available for video filesize ALL audiostreams at their full initial filesizes? I do a 5% sample with 1-pass bitrate to get an idea of the quants (from the .stats file) needed for overall encode. I then use an average of the quants for CRF.

The problem with that method is that using an average assumes that all Q values are equal -- which, of course, isn't true (e.g. an output frame with a Q value of 16 is not twice the size of as a value of 32, it could be several times the size) -- but I was hoping the range would be close enought that it would work out.

So, in my test version I went to extremes and assigned a weighted value to each Q based upon a series of test encodes I did, and then selected a Q value that best suits the weighting. The problem is that the jury is out as to whether it is any more accurate. I'll probably release another test version just to get some feedback.

I'm afraid it may come down to the sample, and whether it is truly representative of the source -- and that, I'm afraid, is next to impossible to correct. If you start increasing the sample, you add time to the encode. You can also adjust the distribution of the sample. Right now I'm skipping over the first 4000 frames to eliminate the impact of the intro (or 1/4 of the framecount, whichever is less), and then encoding 96 (consecutive) frames out of every 1920.

If anyone wants to experiment, you can adjust the sampling with two "hidden" options in the [Options] area of the INI file. Here are the defaults:

SAMPLE_GROUP=1920
SAMPLE_SIZE=96

You could, for example create a 10% sample by setting the values to 1920/192 or 1000/100.

If anyone finds a "magic setting" that seems to be fairly accurate, please let me know.

[jdobbs]

I just need some clarafication on a encoder setting,When using the high speed option is the quality setting automatically set to high quality or is it set to lesser quality because its faster :confused: The High-Speed option actually is a quality option. It could be called high-speed/lowest-quality.

But... quality is also affected by bitrate not just the bells-and-whistles settings that are added in higher quality modes. When you select BD-25 you are using a bitrate that is about 2.5 times the same encode on a BD-9. So you can get away with a lot fewer time-consuming quality tweaks.

Frankly I really meant for it to be used with the one-pass prediction. The Highest-Speed option on it's own is simply a one-pass bitrate-based encode. That mode will never produce quality equal to a 2 pass encode at the same bitrate. With the right prediction, though, a CRF (one-pass) encode can come close.

[Sharc]

If anyone finds a "magic setting" that seems to be fairly accurate, please let me know.
I do crf prediction as follows:
- Take a 1% sample with crf x (e.g. crf 21) => file size 1
- Take a second 1% sample with say crf x+1 (crf 22) => file size 2
- "Interpolate" (conservatively) the final crf based on the 2 file sizes.
(a 3rd 1% sample may be needed if I am too far away with the first 2 tests).
Not very scientific, I know .....
Important of course that the samples are taken with exact the same x264 encoder parameters as intended for the final encode.

[Furiousflea]

Forgive my ignorance....

But why don't you just use the same method as you use for DVD RB, that seemed to produce pretty accurate 1 pass encoding results for me in the past (although I never really used it as preferred the quality of more than 1 pass)...

My apologies if I'm being a cretin as obiously it's a completely different encoder\codec being used.

Didn't DVD RB do something more akin to what sharc is talking about...did a conservative q value then upped\lowered based on the output size...and then encoded once the output size from a given q was satisfactory using that q for the whole encode...

Just curious really :)

[Kakashi Sensei]

Just recieved this error on watchmen full backup and at high speed option:

-----------------------
[14:39:44] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN.DIRECTOR'S.CUT.2009.
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB

- [19:39:56] Reencoding: VID_00506 (48 of 50)
- [19:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00512]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
[19:50:29] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Any ideas?

I could be wrong but it sounds like you ran out of space

[jdobbs]

Forgive my ignorance....

But why don't you just use the same method as you use for DVD RB, that seemed to produce pretty accurate 1 pass encoding results for me in the past (although I never really used it as preferred the quality of more than 1 pass)...

My apologies if I'm being a cretin as obiously it's a completely different encoder\codec being used.

Didn't DVD RB do something more akin to what sharc is talking about...did a conservative q value then upped\lowered based on the output size...and then encoded once the output size from a given q was satisfactory using that q for the whole encode...

Just curious really :) I could do that. But with HD it takes a long time because of the multiple passes. In truth it might take less time to just do an ultra-speed first pass, and when this is all over that may be what I end up doing.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Since you've opened the door for us to experiment with settings, may I ask:

Is there a way to, without changing your sampling, for a user/tester to change the CRF value before the post-sampling processing begins?

I ask because after having done four or five conversions (low, medium, and fairly high action and/or color) using "One-pass (Experimental)", all coming in at FAR below target size, I'd like to be able to "blindly" adjust the CRF to try and yield a 75% higher videostream size.

BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%?

[setarip_old]

@MILLZY

Hi!Source: WATCHMEN.DIRECTOR'S.CUT.2009.Any ideas?Perhaps other members (myself included) might have some ideas when we've been able to purchase this BluRay title when it's released on July 21...

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Since you've opened the door for us to experiment with settings, may I ask:

Is there a way to, without changing your sampling, for a user/tester to change the CRF value before the post-sampling processing begins?

I ask because after having done four or five conversions (low, medium, and fairly high action and/or color) using "One-pass (Experimental)", all coming in at FAR below target size, I'd like to be able to "blindly" adjust the CRF to try and yield a 75% higher videostream size.

BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%? Unfortunately it isn't that simple. The value to make it 75% larger would depend on the complexity of the content.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Allow me to reiterate my first question:

Is there a way to, without changing your sampling, for a user/tester to change the CRF value before the post-sampling processing begins? If so, how?

And, for my sake, I'll dumb down my second question:

Does increasing CRF increase or decrease the filesize of the videostream?

[Sharc]

BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%?
There is no rule here. That's why I make 2 sample files with slightly different crf. It gives an impression of the sensitivity of file size vs crf for a particular source. Based on this information you can speculate.
Increasing the crf value reduces the file size; decreasing the crf increases the file size.
You find explanations about the x264 settings here:
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings.

[MILLZY]

I could be wrong but it sounds like you ran out of space

I have still plenty of space left!

[MILLZY]

@MILLZY

Hi!Perhaps other members (myself included) might have some ideas when we've been able to purchase this BluRay title when it's released on July 21...

I have acces to blu rays from blockbuster from my friends before they are put on the self...I will introduce you to them if you want! And the point of you comment is..............!

[MILLZY]

The High-Speed option actually is a quality option. It could be called high-speed/lowest-quality.

But... quality is also affected by bitrate not just the bells-and-whistles settings that are added in higher quality modes. When you select BD-25 you are using a bitrate that is about 2.5 times the same encode on a BD-9. So you can get away with a lot fewer time-consuming quality tweaks.

Frankly I really meant for it to be used with the one-pass prediction. The Highest-Speed option on it's own is simply a one-pass bitrate-based encode. That mode will never produce quality equal to a 2 pass encode at the same bitrate. With the right prediction, though, a CRF (one-pass) encode can come close.

Thanks very much for the info........

[drmih]

I have acces to blu rays from blockbuster from my friends before they are put on the self...I will introduce you to them if you want! And the point of you question is..............!

I think that the concern is probably two-fold. At best they are rental versions but in the past people have been downloading them from newsgroups, which apart from the legal issue, has led to bugs being reported which were down to a corrupt rip rather than the programme (I certainly remember helping someone ages ago when this turned out to be the case). On your Watchmen, even the source name looks like the extraction directory from the rar set just posted on the newsgroups, rather than the header from a ripped disc.

[setarip_old]

@MILLZYI have acces to blu rays from blockbuster from my friends before they are put on the self...I will introduce you to them if you want! And the point of you question is..............!If you re-read your quote of my post, you'll be hard-pressed to find a question. I said (and you quoted):Perhaps other members (myself included) might have some ideas when we've been able to purchase this BluRay title when it's released on July 21...

However, as a rule-abiding member, I can only reply to the part of your response that I've highlighted in red by saying:

OOPS!

[daberti]

good question for me i havent had any good resluts using it but blocky pixelation etc, so doing it in high quality default resluts look way much better

May I ask you the video bitrate (once encoded) in the film you exeperienced problems with?

[MILLZY]

@MILLZYIf you re-read your quote of my post, you'll be hard-pressed to find a question. I said (and you quoted):

However, as a rule-abiding member, I can only reply to the part of your response that I've highlighted in red by saying:

OOPS!

Fair comment,Didnt realise there were any blu ray police scouring the posts:)

I have just edited the post to (and the point of your comment is..........!) is that better.

And i still stand by what i have said....

[Aratar]

I just used latest BD Rebuilder on the new US Fast and Furious to do a full movie backup to BD25 but had a few problems:

1. For some reason BD Rebuilder is only listing 14 Tracks leaving out several 1gb+ m2ts extra files that it simply 1:1 copies. As a result the actual movie m2ts is rather small.

2. I get a audio/pgs is probably too big error with the question to continue on main movie.

any ideas?

Edit1:

As far the first problem, I just read through the changelogs and it seems that mixed progressive and interlaced VC-1 content can't be reencoded, so it simply skips the 1080i content. If I add DISABLE_VC1_FIX=1, I see the missing tracks but they all have ** so I guess it would end up in a garbled result.

[PurpleMan]

Is there any way to use a x64 build of x264.exe with BD-Rebuilder?

If so, which version should I use?

Thanks.

[varied]

Hello there!


I tried to fully backup a live concert to a bd9 with the slowest encoder settings, though video wasn't that much of importance to me. I wanted to keep the audio quality, so I checked "Do not reencode AC3" and "Do not convert DTS to AC3"
, also "Resize - 1080p to 720p" yet the video is interlaced 60i.

BR-RB reencoded video only in the first two files and then multiplexed them just ok, but when it came to the third one (the main concert) it reencoded the video just ok again, and it then started trying to reencode the audio, then a cmd window popped up in which there were such lines:
"
D:\Programs\Video\BD_Rebuilder(2)>"D:\Programs\Video\BD_Rebuilder(2)\tools\wavi.
exe" "D:\WORKING2\WORKFILES\AUD_00003_4352.AVS" - | "D:\Programs\Video\BD_Rebu
ilder(2)\tools\aften.exe" -v 1 -b 224 -readtoeof 1 - "D:\WORKING2\WORKFILES\AUD_
00003_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Found PCM audio: 2 channels, 96000 Hz, 16 bits, 7593.270000 seconds.
Writing WAV file...
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 96000 Hz stereo
output format: 96000 Hz stereo (2/0)

invalid sample rate
error initializing encoder
Error: Could not write to the standard output.
"

In the log window there were those lines:
"
[13:39:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:39:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00003__4352.WAV]
[13:45:34] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
"
I tried to add SSRC(48000) to the script(so the job would be done and the BD structure would be built so then I could replace reencoded audio in the video file with the original one), but every time I resume the backup the BD-RB rewrites the AVS file, so the same mistake again.


I don't know whether its me or a bug

And one not related question, don't want to start a new thread:
Will the menu work if I manualy reencode all the m2ts files and replace the originals with the reencoded?


Excuse my English, please

[PurpleMan]

@varied:

A lame (but working) workaround would be to add what you want to the avs file, and name it my_avs_file.avs
then create the following batch file:

@echo off
:start
copy /y my_avs_file.avs [bd-rb avs filename].avs
goto start

then run the batch file in the background while clicking "backup" in bd-rb. it will overwrite the avs, but before an encode would start, your background process would re-overwrite it with the editted file and it would work.

I, too, would have loved having the option to set BD-RB to not overwrite avs files if they already exist. would make certain things easier for advanced users.

[kanerulz69]

May I ask you the video bitrate (once encoded) in the film you exeperienced problems with?

will it show that in the log somewhere?

[ds9delta]

Attempting Cars R0 (Australia) Using BD-RB 25.01

- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00060.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[00:27:59] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22500
TARGET_SIZE=22500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=1

[Sharc]

.........BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%?
Perhaps you may want to have a look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1306297#post1306297
http://komisar.gin.by/CRF2Size.html

[setarip_old]

@Sharc

Thanks for the link(s). Unfortunately, regarding my question of "jdobbs", the formula appears to include two unknowns ("NeedBitrate"and "GotBitrate") used to solve for "NextCRF")...

[jdobbs]

@Sharc

Thanks for the link(s). Unfortunately, regarding my question of "jdobbs", the formula appears to include two unknowns ("NeedBitrate"and "GotBitrate") used to solve for "NextCRF")... I'll check these out. I know the "needed" bitrate and can calculate the "got" from the output size.

[varied]

@PurpleMan
Thanks, didn't think about that possibility. Works great!

[Sharc]

I'll check these out. I know the "needed" bitrate and can calculate the "got" from the output size.
I would assume that you could directly replace "needed bitrate" by "needed filesize" and "got bitrate" by "got filesize", hence no need to make a detour via calculating the bitrate from the filesize. The Newton-Raphson algorithm should work equally well.

Added:
I did some tests based on filesize. Seems to work pretty well so far ....

Added2:
Seems to converge even faster (2 or 3 iterations for <10% error) if -6 is replaced by -5.5. More tests needed ....

[drmih]

Hopefully to finally identify the problem related to Sony standalones, missing audio on the movie and PiP, I have just done a disc which had two versions of the movie - one with PiP and the other without. When played back the version which would originally have had PiP was silent but the other version fine.

[jdobbs]

Hopefully to finally identify the problem related to Sony standalones, missing audio on the movie and PiP, I have just done a disc which had two versions of the movie - one with PiP and the other without. When played back the version which would originally have had PiP was silent but the other version fine. I have two Sony standalones -- and this happens on neither of them. Can you give me a specific disc (region A) that has this problem?

[chudm]

i had tested region A kung fu panda with the lastest 3 betas, and played perfect on my ps3, but when i tried to play it (the backup) on a panasonic bd-30 all plays good, but when i tried to play the main movie it shows only a black screen! i deactivated bdlive like i read on a post here, but nothing seems to work with that movie on that player!

[drmih]

I have two Sony standalones -- and this happens on neither of them. Can you give me a specific disc (region A) that has this problem?

Basically any Universal title with PiP and probably others which are done to bd-9 full disc (the files that don't work on on a bd-9 are fine if coped to a bd-25) - some of the ones I've actually done:

Mummy series
Bourne series
day the earth (new)
changeling
frost nixon
twilight
wanted
madagascar 2

I'm hoping that when you release the version with PiP audio that that might nail the issue with those with suitable audio streams.

[daberti]

will it show that in the log somewhere?

@kanerulz69
Go the Mediainfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/) way ;)
Please just give us the resolution (i.e. 1080p or 720p) and bitrate.
Keep in mind that High-Speed is meant to be used with One-pass and BD-25.

@jdobbs
Some logs encoding Black Hawk Down, region B, movie only, PCM audio

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[19.59.39] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.59.39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.59.39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.38.08] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 5,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 22,09 for encode.
[23.53.00]PHASE ONE complete
[23.53.00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23.53.00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00.11.44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00.11.44]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[12.30.27] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12.30.27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12.30.27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [13.20.35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 10,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 21,97 for encode.
[13.56.21]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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[14.39.03] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14.39.07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14.39.07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15.24.40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 20,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,38 for encode.
[19.07.05]PHASE ONE complete
[19.07.05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19.07.05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19.29.20] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[19.29.20]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[19.48.19] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.48.19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.48.19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.35.14] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 40,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,47 for encode.
[00.42.26]PHASE ONE complete
[00.42.27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00.42.27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01.01.56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[01.01.56]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
*******************

My understanding is that 20% sample should be the best option. I'll test Blade Runner (final cut) ASAP.