BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[RobertM]

are my settings correct or is it cyberlink powerdvd

PowerDVD (at least the more recent versions, not sure about the older ones) will NOT play BD-R discs. It is designed to play ONLY commercial BD discs, and will not recognize BD-R discs. It doesn't matter what BDRB settings you pick, or the disc size (BD-25, BD-9, BD-5).

[SquallMX]

PowerDVD (at least the more recent versions, not sure about the older ones) will NOT play BD-R discs. It is designed to play ONLY commercial BD discs, and will not recognize BD-R discs. It doesn't matter what BDRB settings you pick, or the disc size (BD-25, BD-9, BD-5).

That is not true, PowerDVD 11 plays my BD-R discs just fine.

[RobertM]

PowerDVD 11 plays my BD-R discs just fine

Is it the "upgraded" version? Neither PowerDVD9 or 10 play BD-R discs for me, but I have never "upgraded" to see if that would make a difference.

[jdobbs]

I wanted to ask if my settings were correct to burn to BD9 disc to play on any Blu-ray players. I have tried the trial of airssoft total media theater and it seemed to work so is it a player issue then? any advice on setup is welcome or is this a bug.
thanks The first questions are: "What type of player do you have?", "Is it a standalone player?", and "Does it support AVCHD?"

I did a quick scan of your settings, and I don't see anything there that might prevent it from working.

But...

While many players support movie-only output to BD-9, not all of them do. In order to support it, your player must support AVCHD. If it doesn't specifically say it does in your manual -- it probably doesn't, and you will get exactly the error you've described and it isn't going to work no matter what settings you use.

[JK1974]

Hi,

I just gave the latest beta version of BD Rebuilder my first try, and I am really impressed with the results.

However, I currently suffer of compatiblity issues and don´t know where they come from.

I used the "Full backup" mode and first checked the results with the latest version of PowerDVD 11 by selecting the "play from folder" option - and it worked fine, including all menus etc.

Then, I mounted the created ISO with DaemonTools. Now, PowerDVD refuses to play the movie. It starts, turns Aero of, and then simply stops. When I restart the playback, the "resume" or "restart" screen shows a AVCHD logo next to the buttons. When I use the folder playback option, it also does not work. It also claims to have found an AVCHD disc.

When I copy the burned folders back from the DVD-9 to the hard disc and select the folder playback option, it works again. When stopping and starting this playback again, the AVCHD logo disappears next to the "resume" and "restart" buttons.
One version directly burned from the created ISO to a DVD-9 also does not work, so I don´t think it is related to the DaemonTools.

I don´t know if PowerDVD 11 has integrated a new BD check with the latest update or if there are any problems with my system or the ImgBurn commands BD Rebuilder uses that cause BD-9 discs with BD structure to be detected as AVCHD discs.
However, it is also strange that even the "playback from folder" function does not work as soon as the data need to be played back from the ISO or the BD-9 disc.

I am going to check the problem on other systems with different PowerDVD 11 versions (not only the latest one), however, is there already anybody out there having no or even the same problems before I have to start further tests?

BTW.: I used the default settings of BD Rebuilder apart from selecting "best quality" on reencoding and disabling the deinterlacing of interlaced material.

[sonate]

Microsoft Windows XP pro [Version 5.1.2600] sp3 No modifications made to the command system.

all updates to present applied.

I see many applications which run on the cmd line such as x264.exe, wavi.exe, setACL.exe,
MP4box.exe etc etc, don't they all require the same standard cmd in/out support? Never had any other
similar error. Could this mean it can't find the path of the output device for that ap? Is there maybe an
environmental system variable for that command which needs to be added?

OK at least we found something out.

And now I hear the music from twilight zone playing in the background

PS, I hope you don't hate me for this :(

I have two other computers , one dedicated for audio and the other for general use both with the same O/S version. Copied everything intact to each, in an attempt to see if the error would duplicate. It did on both machines.

[jdobbs]

@JK1974

Let's see what other users of PowerDVD 11 have to say. I don't use it and I don't even know if it supports full backups to BD-9. Not all players do. Also, since software players are so inherently buggy, I normally only accept bug reports that have been tested on standalone players.

[jdobbs]

I have two other computers , one dedicated for audio and the other for general use both with the same O/S version. Copied everything intact to each, in an attempt to see if the error would duplicate. It did on both machines. I would have to counter that by saying "But it works for everyone else, including me." That means the error has to be on your end somewhere -- and unfortunately there isn't much I can do.

It has worked for you before -- so the question is, what has changed on your computers? The versions of wavi.exe and aften.exe on BD-RB have not changed since July of 2009.

Is there any chance this is just a corrupt source?

[sonate]

Just trying to tell you that this seems to be the way this version of XP functions. Nothing has changed, one hasn't even been used for the past 6 months. There are also several other cases reporting this quirk with recoding audio, all aften related. Perhaps you could look on your systems environmental variables and see how it routes the stdout for that paticular application That's all I'm asking.

You developed a wonderful tool and I unfortunately have not been able to enjoy all its capabilities. I am dying to see what a BD-5 looks like but unfortunately without compressing the HD audio, that just isn't going to happen.

As far as corrupt source, ripped with anydvdhd and the mounted .iso plays with full functionallity, all audio tracks, all subs, all menu items. Is there any particular setting in the sly software which should be avoided, ie "remove annoying warnings and trailers", disable br live, etc?

[Rich86]

Is it the "upgraded" version? Neither PowerDVD9 or 10 play BD-R discs for me, but I have never "upgraded" to see if that would make a difference.

I have PowerDVD9 installed on my tower and it is my primary blu-ray player program. It came free with my Lite-On blu-ray burner. It plays my burned BD-Rs & BD-REs just fine. It also plays a ripped blu-ray movie off the hard drive once mounted via the very convenient .miniso DVDFab provides.

[sonate]

I have PowerDVD9 installed on my tower and it is my primary blu-ray player program. It came free with my Lite-On blu-ray burner. It plays my burned BD-Rs & BD-REs just fine. It also plays a ripped blu-ray movie off the hard drive once mounted via the very convenient .miniso DVDFab provides.

Same here, power dvd plays them flawlessly. I use Daemon tools to mount the images which I verify in pdvd9 after every sly rip before I try to process them with BD reb.

[omegaman7]

Jdobbs, does rebuilder take subtitles in to account when determining output size? I rarely do a DVD-5 output, but in this instance I elected to.
Fast five has more subtitles than a dozen dvds put together. The output ended up being 4491Mb. Only a bit over. Not a big deal really. But it is worth noting. Dvd shrink can take the unneeded subtitles away, without touching the encoded video.

[jdobbs]

Just trying to tell you that this seems to be the way this version of XP functions. Nothing has changed, one hasn't even been used for the past 6 months. There are also several other cases reporting this quirk with recoding audio, all aften related. Perhaps you could look on your systems environmental variables and see how it routes the stdout for that paticular application That's all I'm asking.

You developed a wonderful tool and I unfortunately have not been able to enjoy all its capabilities. I am dying to see what a BD-5 looks like but unfortunately without compressing the HD audio, that just isn't going to happen.

As far as corrupt source, ripped with anydvdhd and the mounted .iso plays with full functionallity, all audio tracks, all subs, all menu items. Is there any particular setting in the sly software which should be avoided, ie "remove annoying warnings and trailers", disable br live, etc? Leave all the AnyDVD settings at their installation default.

I think the other cases reported on AFTEN all have a solution (usually a bad source if I remember correctly). I don't know of any open ones... my debug list has none listed.

Playback is NOT a way to check for a bad source. Even severely corrupted sources will playback -- errors are just ignored. Trying to reencode, on the other hand, is a different story. A corrupt source can stop it in it's tracks.

As for environment variables -- I don't see the connection.

I'll look at creating a new hidden switch that does the encode in two steps (one to WAV and the second to AC3). But that just raises the possible issue of files over 4GB.

Again I ask -- what have you changed on your systems since the last time it worked? I would almost guarantee that is the issue. The way BD-RB does the audio encode hasn't changed in well over 2 years. In fact, with the exception of a change in the version of AFTEN it hasn't changed significantly since the first release.

[sonate]

[QUOTE=
Again I ask -- what have you changed on your systems since the last time it worked? I would almost guarantee that is the issue. The way BD-RB does the audio encode hasn't changed in well over 2 years. In fact, with the exception of a change in the version of AFTEN it hasn't changed significantly since the first release.
As for environment variables -- I don't see the connection.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to have to think hard, I believe the title was "the prestige" where as a test I recall ending up with an AC3 recode. The failure rate was so high, I basically gave up. I remember trying it successfully after you convinced me there was no need to keep the HD audio. But I need to verify this by looking at back posts to get an idea of the timeframe.

So let me ask you, the dts hd has already been reduced to dts in the logs I posted over the past few days representing a reduction in perhaps 2.5 gb of space for the audio. How much further do I save by going to AC3, and is this conversion capable of the 7 channel sound?

Basically I don't have a real need to compress to bd-5 but I was really interested in seeing what it could do. BD-25's cost in some cases less then the DVD dual layers. All this moaning, I still can tell you I have been 100% satisfied with BD-25 keeping the HD audio if worse came to worse.

About the environmental variables, namely the path , it seems pretty obvious that stdin/out has to function on all the other applications or else none of the cmd.exe based applets( in the general meaning of the term) would be able to be integrated into your program which when performed on my machine is largely successful except for this one.

[RobertM]

I have PowerDVD9 installed on my tower and it is my primary blu-ray player program. It came free with my Lite-On blu-ray burner. It plays my burned BD-Rs & BD-REs just fine

Well that certainly doesn't agree with my experience, and what I've read in many other forums. I currently have the "free" version of PowerDVD10 on my system (came with my LG burner), and it has NEVER been able to play back a BD-R that I have produced with BDRB. It always gives me an error something like "incompatible disc format". I suppose it could be the media (Verbatim), or the burner itself.

Anyway, I'm obviously wrong in what I previously said about PowerDVD not being able to play BD-R discs. Sorry for the misinformation.

[jdobbs]

About the environmental variables, namely the path , it seems pretty obvious that stdin/out has to function on all the other applications or else none of the cmd.exe based applets( in the general meaning of the term) would be able to be integrated into your program which when performed on my machine is largely successful except for this one. Listen. I've been bending over backwards to try and answer your questions, only to have to read non-applicable comments like this. I also have overlooked the fact that you continually post conflicting information (like reporting AC3 as DTS, or saying you're encoding with one group of settings only to see from the log that it is incorrect).

Now you're second-guessing again as you did in previous post making illogical statements. I realize your knowledge of the working of this program and apparently Windows/DOS may be limited. But I keep feeling obliged to answer because others who are reading this thread may not realize that they are illogical.

To answer this one:

1. Environment variables (including the path) are not applicable (as I already said). BD-RB always uses fully qualified paths. That should be obvious since you've been looking at the command line I gave you.
...it seems pretty obvious...2. Obvious? C'mon -- I never blame someone for being a novice, but now you're throwing manure at me using novice logic with the pretense of understanding. If you want to know "Obvious" it is obvious that you don't have a clue what stdin/stdout is... Further, it makes no sense in the context you are using it. Stdin/Stdout is only used (in this context) to feed the output of one program as the input to another. In BD-RB it is only done for audio encode and nowhere else... and that is specifically because Aften doesn accept DTS (and/or other codecs) as an input type. So those formats are converted to PCM using AVISYNTH and NicAudio() with WAVI.EXE and fed to AFTEN. In other words your statement "it seems pretty obvious that stdin/out has to function on all the other applications" is complete nonsense. Stdin/Stdout doesn't even come into play anywhere else.

I don't mean to be harsh -- but I've been spending a lot of time and have been very patient helping you with a problem that is specific only to you. And the response I get is you throwing inapplicable comments and continually inaccurate/incorrect information back at me.

Sorry but I'm giving up on this bug report.

[sonate]

Well that certainly doesn't agree with my experience, and what I've read in many other forums. I currently have the "free" version of PowerDVD10 on my system (came with my LG burner), and it has NEVER been able to play back a BD-R that I have produced with BDRB. It always gives me an error something like "incompatible disc format". I suppose it could be the media (Verbatim), or the burner itself.

Anyway, I'm obviously wrong in what I previously said about PowerDVD not being able to play BD-R discs. Sorry for the misinformation.

What burning tool are you using? I find imageburn to be better than nero. Easy to burn from an image file. I also use the verify after burn. Read errors do result in unrecognizable discs. Once tried a brand called "optical quantum" which had almost an 80% failure rate. I use Ridata and have yet to produce a failure.

[RobertM]

What burning tool are you using? I find imageburn to be better than nero. Easy to burn from an image file. I also use the verify after burn. Read errors do result in unrecognizable discs. Once tried a brand called "optical quantum" which had almost an 80% failure rate. I use Ridata and have yet to produce a failure.

I use ImgBurn, with Verbatim BD-25 discs, and I verify after every burn. I've never had a verify error, so 0% failure rate. It's not a matter of the discs being unreadable; all files show up just fine in the WindowsExplorer window, and play fine on my PC with VLC and MPC and in my standalone Sony BD player. But the BD-Rs don't play in WMP, and PowerDVD says "There is a disc with an unsupported format in Drive B:".

Anyway, I don't consider this to be a BDRB bug, so I shouldn't belabour the point anymore in this thread.

[sonate]

I don't mean to be harsh -- but I've been spending a lot of time and have been very patient helping you with a problem that is specific only to you. And the response I get is you throwing inapplicable comments and continually inaccurate/incorrect information back at me.

Sorry but I'm giving up on this bug report.

Your efforts have been herculean only to be outdone by your efforts to make a person feel like a piece of crap. Just think that if you tried a dozen different attempts on your own before you thought of bothering the developer because you knew he was busy. You end up with a dozen log files trying to determine which one was the one associated with workfiles you saved because you thought there was something which might reveal the problem. And I don't know how your program works, and I made a few assumptions Mea culpa, I'm human too. Now I'm a complete idiot.

Thanks, JD

[sonate]

[QUOTE=jdobbs;So those formats are converted to PCM using AVISYNTH and NicAudio() with WAVI.EXE and fed to AFTEN. [/QUOTE]

Directshow source doesn't seem to be working either. LCPM multi source , wavi.exe and cmd.exe running for an hour with no progress or error message.

I know...

[sonate]

I use ImgBurn, with Verbatim BD-25 discs, and I verify after every burn. I've never had a verify error, so 0% failure rate. It's not a matter of the discs being unreadable; all files show up just fine in the WindowsExplorer window, and play fine on my PC with VLC and MPC and in my standalone Sony BD player. But the BD-Rs don't play in WMP, and PowerDVD says "There is a disc with an unsupported format in Drive B:".

Anyway, I don't consider this to be a BDRB bug, so I shouldn't belabour the point anymore in this thread.

Gotcha, wise idea IMO

[Capsbackup]

Just in case you haven't figured it out, I'm a problem child :)


You have made your point! :rolleyes:
Trouble shooting can be frustrating, but it appears there has been a lot of effort to help you. :(

[sonate]

You have made your point! :rolleyes:
Trouble shooting can be frustrating, but it appears there has been a lot of effort to help you. :(

And you would be hard pressed to think I am not appreciative.

Let me ask you, if you know,does XP by default set all CMD.exe permissions to deny?

[jdobbs]

Directshow source doesn't seem to be working either. LCPM multi source , wavi.exe and cmd.exe running for an hour with no progress or error message.

I know... It works exactly the same way as NicAudio(). The problem isn't within BD-RB. I'm repeating myself, but your problem appears to be that any attempt to pass data through stdin/stdout between programs is not working. That's an operating system issue. There is really nothing I can do.

[Capsbackup]

And you would be hard pressed to think I am not appreciative.

Let me ask you, if you know,does XP by default set all CMD.exe permissions to deny?

I do not know. I have not been using XP for quite some time.
There have been reports of anti-virus software causing various conflicts, so you could investigate if that applies to your situation. Beyond that I do not have much else to offer. :o

[sonate]

It works exactly the same way as NicAudio(). The problem isn't within BD-RB. I'm repeating myself, but your problem appears to be that any attempt to pass data through stdin/stdout between programs is not working. That's an operating system issue. There is really nothing I can do.

Yes I understand, the pipe is broken.

[sonate]

It works exactly the same way as NicAudio(). The problem isn't within BD-RB. I'm repeating myself, but your problem appears to be that any attempt to pass data through stdin/stdout between programs is not working. That's an operating system issue. There is really nothing I can do.

At least we know simple stdin/stdout dos commands still work

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>dir
Volume in drive C is HD Ascent
Volume Serial Number is FC31-2CFB

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator

08/01/2011 10:59 AM <DIR> .
08/01/2011 10:59 AM <DIR> ..
07/09/2010 01:35 PM 423 .airappinstall.log
06/19/2008 06:23 PM 412 .airinstall.log
04/27/2011 06:58 AM <DIR> .dvdcss
07/01/2011 06:55 PM 90 default.pls
09/14/2011 11:06 AM <DIR> Desktop
09/29/2009 11:37 AM <DIR> Favorites
08/04/2011 01:24 PM <DIR> My Documents
09/22/2011 04:11 PM 18,874,368 ntuser.dat
08/31/2006 04:57 PM <DIR> Start Menu
07/05/2004 02:02 AM <DIR> WINDOWS
4 File(s) 18,875,293 bytes
8 Dir(s) 59,190,300,672 bytes free

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>dir|sort


4 File(s) 18,875,293 bytes
8 Dir(s) 59,190,300,672 bytes free
Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
Volume in drive C is HD Ascent
Volume Serial Number is FC31-2CFB
04/27/2011 06:58 AM <DIR> .dvdcss
06/19/2008 06:23 PM 412 .airinstall.log
07/01/2011 06:55 PM 90 default.pls
07/05/2004 02:02 AM <DIR> WINDOWS
07/09/2010 01:35 PM 423 .airappinstall.log
08/01/2011 10:59 AM <DIR> .
08/01/2011 10:59 AM <DIR> ..
08/04/2011 01:24 PM <DIR> My Documents
08/31/2006 04:57 PM <DIR> Start Menu
09/14/2011 11:06 AM <DIR> Desktop
09/22/2011 04:11 PM 18,874,368 ntuser.dat
09/29/2009 11:37 AM <DIR> Favorites

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

[Rich86]

Well that certainly doesn't agree with my experience, and what I've read in many other forums. I currently have the "free" version of PowerDVD10 on my system (came with my LG burner), and it has NEVER been able to play back a BD-R that I have produced with BDRB. It always gives me an error something like "incompatible disc format". I suppose it could be the media (Verbatim), or the burner itself.

Anyway, I'm obviously wrong in what I previously said about PowerDVD not being able to play BD-R discs. Sorry for the misinformation.

I'm assuming you are trying to play properly formatted & burned BD-R discs that play in a standalone player. All I do is load the disc in my BD drive, click on "select source" in the lower left corner of the Powerdvd9 main menu, and choose the drive letter of the disc title. It loads up the menu and off we go. Did LG maybe provide you a PowerDVD version that does not support blu-ray? That would seem strange if it came packaged with a blu-ray burner.

[RobertM]

I'm assuming you are trying to play properly formatted & burned BD-R discs that play in a standalone player.

Right.

All I do is load the disc in my BD drive, click on "select source" in the lower left corner of the Powerdvd9 main menu, and choose the drive letter of the disc title.


I do the same thing. The disc title shows up, but when I select it I get the error message.

It loads up the menu and off we go.

Hmm.... I wonder if the problem is that I ONLY do "movie-only" backups. Maybe the problem is that there are no menu items.

Did LG maybe provide you a PowerDVD version that does not support blu-ray? That would seem strange if it came packaged with a blu-ray burner.

It can certainly play commercial BD discs, just not my BD-R discs.

But now you've got me thinking that PowerDVD might just say that anything without a menu isn't valid. I'll test that theory by making a "full backup" to a BD-RE disc and see if that makes any difference.

[jdobbs]

@sonate

Remember this:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>c:\accessories\BD_Reb\tools\wavi.exe "D:
\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00001_4352.AVS" - | c:\accessories\BD_Reb\tool
s\aften.exe -v 1 -b 640 -readtoeof 1 - "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\00001.tr
ack_4352.AC3"

Well I just realized that this command line uses the wrong output filename. That name is the actually the same as the input file (within the AVS) and is probably overwriting the source and causing the error. So we might be back to square one.

Run the job again (up to the point it fails) and then try this command instead and see if it completes, or (more likely) gives a different error:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>c:\accessories\BD_Reb\tools\wavi.exe "D:
\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00001_4352.AVS" - | c:\accessories\BD_Reb\tool
s\aften.exe -v 1 -b 640 -readtoeof 1 - "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00001_4352.AC3"

[sonate]

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>c:\accessories\BD_Rebuilder\tools\wavi.e
xe "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00001_4352.AVS" - | c:\accessories\BD_Re
builder\tools\aften.exe -v 1 -b 640 -readtoeof 1 - "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFI
LES\AUD_00001_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Error: Could not find PCM audio track in "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00
001_4352.AVS".
input format: Raw PCM Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz mono
output format: 48000 Hz mono (1/0)

SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2
Threads: 2
------------------------------------------------
Win xp crash screen of aften pops up

included a portion of the LOG showing audio settings as I am not sure why the cmd code is showing a mono format

- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448

[jdobbs]

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>c:\accessories\BD_Rebuilder\tools\wavi.e
xe "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00001_4352.AVS" - | c:\accessories\BD_Re
builder\tools\aften.exe -v 1 -b 640 -readtoeof 1 - "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFI
LES\AUD_00001_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Error: Could not find PCM audio track in "D:\BD REB WORK FOLDER\WORKFILES\AUD_00
001_4352.AVS".
input format: Raw PCM Signed 16-bit little-endian 48000 Hz mono
output format: 48000 Hz mono (1/0)

SIMD usage: MMX SSE SSE2
Threads: 2
------------------------------------------------
Win xp crash screen of aften pops up

included a portion of the LOG showing audio settings as I am not sure why the cmd code is showing a mono format

- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448 Just got back to my desk... and realized I was wrong in my last conclusion. That wouldn't have been the input file name because the source was DTS. It should have acted exactly the same way.

Sorry for the wild goose chase. We're back to the original train of thought. It still looks like a pipe issue.

[jdobbs]

Just to be sure, I also setup a WinXP system and did some testing with the audio encode. It works correctly there as well.

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
Auto-blank: I have a case where some "loose" clips are apparently considered as menus. The point is that I cannot deselect these ('Blank this item' is disabled).
Is there a way to enable (force) 'Blank this item' (at my own risk)?

[sonate]

Just got back to my desk... and realized I was wrong in my last conclusion. That wouldn't have been the input file name because the source was DTS. It should have acted exactly the same way.

Sorry for the wild goose chase. We're back to the original train of thought. It still looks like a pipe issue.

No problem and thank you for going the extra mile. I'm convinced that this is a local problem with either my XP version or the way it is configured, since you have no problem running it on your xp setup. But for the life of me, I can't understand why.

Is there any significance to the two different messages, The first one finding the 6 channel PCM and today's not finding it even though the associated AVS were identical.

But inputing the command you sent me two days on this job run ago resulted with identical messages as the newer command today , so can I assume that has to do with minor differences in the way the jobs ran?

Also, now I'm pretty sure I never successfully converted a DTS-HD to AC3, but I have been able to with with True-HD. Is that because True-HD has an embeded AC3 which doesn't require Aften?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
Auto-blank: I have a case where some "loose" clips are apparently considered as menus. The point is that I cannot deselect these ('Blank this item' is disabled).
Is there a way to enable (force) 'Blank this item' (at my own risk)?

Not right now. Do they have an asterisk next to their title?

[jdobbs]

No problem and thank you for going the extra mile. I'm convinced that this is a local problem with either my XP version or the way it is configured, since you have no problem running it on your xp setup. But for the life of me, I can't understand why.

Is there any significance to the two different messages, The first one finding the 6 channel PCM and today's not finding it even though the associated AVS were identical.

But inputing the command you sent me two days on this job run ago resulted with identical messages as the newer command today , so can I assume that has to do with minor differences in the way the jobs ran?

Also, now I'm pretty sure I never successfully converted a DTS-HD to AC3, but I have been able to with with True-HD. Is that because True-HD has an embeded AC3 which doesn't require Aften? It depends on your settings. If you have "Reencode AC3" selected, it will reencode it.

[Capsbackup]

I am testing the new blank feature from the latest release, and have ENABLE_TEST=1 and BLANK_THRESHOLD=1 set under [Options], ( also tried BLANK_THRESHOLD=60 ). I have Edit mode selected and am in Full Backup mode. Is the ability to blank warnings and short adverts enabled?
I am unable to select these to blank as they are not even listed in the tree view. :confused:

[jdobbs]

I am testing the new blank feature from the latest release, and have ENABLE_TEST=1 and BLANK_THRESHOLD=1 set under [Options], ( also tried BLANK_THRESHOLD=60 ). I have Edit mode selected and am in Full Backup mode. Is the ability to blank warnings and short adverts enabled?
I am unable to select these to blank as they are not even listed in the tree view. :confused:

You have to double-click on the title to enter edit mode. Then you'll see all selections (even those set to be blanked). But it's unlikely you'll get much with BLANK_THRESHOLD=1. There aren't many playlists that are less than 1 second long.

Note that if ENABLE_TEST is set, you can enter edit mode from "Full Backup" mode as well, so you don't need to set an exceptionally low threshold to prevent auto blanking.

[Sharc]

Not right now. Do they have an asterisk next to their title?
No asterisk. They seem to be a kind of orphans, not referenced in any of the playlists.
Disc is Enemy of the state (region2).
P.S. Your PM inbox is full ....

Edit: ooops, the statement that these clips are not referenced in any playlist is wrong; it's just that DB-RB shows only 6 (out of total 39) playlists in it's "Select movie-only Playlist" window, hence my wrong conlusion that these clips are orphans.
Nevertheless, some unwanted clips are kept and manual blanking is disabled. Perhaps something to be looked at in future how to release unwanted clips for manual blanking (at user's responsibility).

[Capsbackup]

You have to double-click on the title to enter edit mode. Then you'll see all selections (even those set to be blanked). But it's unlikely you'll get much with BLANK_THRESHOLD=1. There aren't many playlists that are less than 1 second long.

Note that if ENABLE_TEST is set, you can enter edit mode from "Full Backup" mode as well, so you don't need to set an exceptionally low threshold to prevent auto blanking.

I have double-clicked on the title and have Edit Mode listed in BD-RB. I am also in Full Backup Mode. But none of the "Warnings" or short adverts, like the 14 second " Deluxe Digital Studios" on Universal titles are even available to select and preview to blank.

EDIT:
I now see the 14 second " Deluxe Digital Studios" to blank, but none of the "warning" .m2ts files are listed to be able to blank.

[sonate]

It depends on your settings. If you have "Reencode AC3" selected, it will reencode it.

Could you do me a favor and tell me what the version number of of XP you used and what were the system specs it was installed on. Appreciate...

[Rich86]

But now you've got me thinking that PowerDVD might just say that anything without a menu isn't valid. I'll test that theory by making a "full backup" to a BD-RE disc and see if that makes any difference.

No - I can play my movie only backups just fine with PowerDVD9.

I generally process ripped titles with BD-RB using mostly defaults (although I DO set it for the highest quality for compression purposes).
I burn with imgburn in "build" mode from the output directories of BD-RB.
If the original disc is already a BD25, I do not process with BD-RB at all - just burn from the ripped directories on hard disc.

btw . . my PowerDVD came bundled in the "Cyberlink Blu-Ray Suite" with my drive.
The PowerDVD version is 9.0.2919.52

[omegaman7]

First, I apologize for asking this twice, but I think I was overlooked. It's ok, it happens.

Does BD rebuilder, when calculating output size, take subtitles into account? I realize that most movies subtitles are nearly negligible, but Fast Five has an insane amount of subtitles. I ran a DVD-5 output, and it was oversized to 4491Mb. I'm afraid I already deleted relevant files, or I'd post a report. I'm simply curious about this for the future.

[laserfan]

In the latest version of BD-RB (v0.39.01) I have added some undocumented features.
I had to try this on one of my favorite movies (Shawshank Redemption) and it's pretty slick.

One thing I found disconcerting is that when you right-click on a VID to Preview it, which apparently launches mplayerc out of Tools, the highlight is lost in the Stream window. One has to "focus" to remember where you are in the list as you check all the VIDs. Maybe not possible to do anything about as the PC switches to MPC for Preview, but you asked for feedback. ;)

On this disc some of the "good stuff" is shorter than the bad, e.g. a slideshow is 32sec and one WARNING sequence is 50sec. I initially set BLANK_THRESHOLD to 25 vs. 1200 and this still wouldn't have worked automatically. You said "sometimes you might want to select for yourself" well for this reason I will NEVER let BD-RB automatically select stuff for me, I will always select what to blank or not.

You said "we're blanking playlists". Ok, but since I like to double-check what I'm blanking lest I blank something Good, it's somewhat confusing to look at e.g. VID_00031 in the Stream list which is actually a Warning (bad) m2ts, and its Playlist is 00033. Playlist 00031 is a keeper (a slideshow). Just a nitpick--it's no big deal i.e. if I can Preview reliably within BD-RB that's all that truly matters.

Seems the window is awfully small for doing this, e.g. when Previewing every VID they're tricky to track, and especially so when you have to scroll. If not a resizable window, then maybe a little big taller one? :)

Good stuff for sure; thanks for letting us at it!

[sonate]

It depends on your settings. If you have "Reencode AC3" selected, it will reencode it.

Rebuilding using the embedded AC3 in a True HD source, and the DTS core in a DTS-HD without further processing of the audio stream saves a considerable amount of space to begin with.

If in terms of audio prepossessing, they more or less sound identical, further AC3 reencode might be practical for a bd- 5 or 9 but not as practical for a bd-25 IMO.

The problem I'm having completing the command line, wouldn't that also occur if I tried to compress LCPM mono, since from what I can gather from the code you gave me Aften would be required for that as well.

[Capsbackup]

You said "we're blanking playlists". Ok, but since I like to double-check what I'm blanking lest I blank something Good, it's somewhat confusing to look at e.g. VID_00031 in the Stream list which is actually a Warning (bad) m2ts, and its Playlist is 00033. Playlist 00031 is a keeper (a slideshow). Just a nitpick--it's no big deal i.e. if I can Preview reliably within BD-RB that's all that truly matters.


This does make sense! I am finding that not all playlists/VID_xxxxx are showing up in BD-RB's tree list of available to blank.( Like the Warnings ) :confused:
I have been using multiAVCHD for blanking, and it lists both the .mpls and the .m2ts for blanking, which I find this very helpful!
I know blanking can be tricky, and have blanked files before that turned out to be necessary, which in turn can corrupt proper playback of the movie. I have learned to be "very" selective as to what can and cannot be blanked. :o

[jdobbs]

Could you do me a favor and tell me what the version number of of XP you used and what were the system specs it was installed on. Appreciate... Windows XP with Service Pack 3 Version number shows 5.1 (2600)

[jdobbs]

First, I apologize for asking this twice, but I think I was overlooked. It's ok, it happens.

Does BD rebuilder, when calculating output size, take subtitles into account? I realize that most movies subtitles are nearly negligible, but Fast Five has an insane amount of subtitles. I ran a DVD-5 output, and it was oversized to 4491Mb. I'm afraid I already deleted relevant files, or I'd post a report. I'm simply curious about this for the future. Yes it does. After the kept subtitles are extracted, their size is subtracted from the target.

[jdobbs]

Rebuilding using the embedded AC3 in a True HD source, and the DTS core in a DTS-HD without further processing of the audio stream saves a considerable amount of space to begin with.

If in terms of audio prepossessing, they more or less sound identical, further AC3 reencode might be practical for a bd- 5 or 9 but not as practical for a bd-25 IMO.

The problem I'm having completing the command line, wouldn't that also occur if I tried to compress LCPM mono, since from what I can gather from the code you gave me Aften would be required for that as well. Then uncheck it. That's why its there.