BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

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[09/09/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.02 (beta)
[12:28:31] Source: M-I-1-1996_PLAYLIST_00001
- Input BD size: 31.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:50:12.605]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:28:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:28:31] Processing: VID_00125 (1 of 1)
- [12:28:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00125]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
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[12:29:36] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Mission Impossible 1 Cannot backup problem, retrieve audio failed, any ideas? Not sure. It failed trying to extract the audio/video/subtitle streams. Can you post the contents of AUD_00125.META?

You're not short of drive space, are you?

[jdobbs]

I got a report earlier of an imported DVD that was having audio sync problems. Since I haven't tested any PAL discs, and I haven't seen any sync issues, could someone report if they have successfully imported a PAL DVD?

Thanks.

[hifreak]

I got a report earlier of an imported DVD that was having audio sync problems. Since I haven't tested any PAL discs, and I haven't seen any sync issues, could someone report if they have successfully imported a PAL DVD?

Thanks.

I tried to import a PAL DVD no problem with the sync, but my source is 16:9, but my final build was 4:3 I Do i need to change something in my settings:

MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=4469
VERSION=0.42.0.2
AUTO_BURN=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1

[jdobbs]

I tried to import a PAL DVD no problem with the sync, but my source is 16:9, but my final build was 4:3 I Do i need to change something in my settings:

MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=4469
VERSION=0.42.0.2
AUTO_BURN=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1


I'll have to check on that. You reminded me that there are some DVD sources that are actually encoded at 4:3, but since the IFO takes precedence they are played back at 16:9. It's not common, but I've seen them. I need to make sure I use the aspect specified in the IFO.

[Edit] I just went back and checked and I am getting the aspect ratio from the IFO. Is this an original unmodified DVD?

[Edit again] Hmm... I took a closer look and it appears I may have made a mistake in the way I pulled the rate from the IFO for PAL DVDs, still checking... now I'm wondering how your PAL disc was in-sync?

[Edit another time] I followed the code, and although the ratio is pulled correctly from the IFO, when it is remuxed into BD format by TSMUXER, the ratio used is the one in the extracted MPEG-2 stream. I'll need to somehow change that. I can always scan the MPEG-2 stream and replace the flags, I guess... but I'd rather avoid that.

[hifreak]

I'll have to check on that. You reminded me that there are some DVD sources that are actually encoded at 4:3, but since the IFO takes precedence they are played back at 16:9. It's not common, but I've seen them. I need to make sure I use the aspect specified in the IFO.

[Edit] I just went back and checked and I am getting the aspect ratio from the IFO. Is this an original unmodified DVD?

[Edit again] Hmm... I took a closer look and it appears I may have made a mistake in the way I pulled the rate from the IFO for PAL DVDs, still checking... now I'm wondering how your PAL disc was in-sync?

[Edit another time] I followed the code, and although the ratio is pulled correctly from the IFO, when it is remuxed into BD format by TSMUXER, the ratio used is the one in the extracted MPEG-2 stream. I'll need to somehow change that. I can always scan the MPEG-2 stream and replace the flags, I guess... but I'd rather avoid that.

Thanks for the feedback I try check again if the DVD is in sync, maybe some others here can try a PAL DVD too and see what they experience. The DVD is not modified it is a DVD9 original one.

[Capsbackup]

Just tried opening a h.264 ts file with BD Rebuilder v0.42.02 (beta) but I get:

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[07:48:56] Importing TS: WEEDS_S8_E1_1080I
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...
[07:49:39]ERROR: Failed to build BD structure. Aborted.

Pop-up says:
Demuxing Error
Error: Failed to build BD structure. Aborting.

If I use tsMuxeR GUI on the same file it demuxes fine. :confused:

[hifreak]

Thanks for the feedback I try check again if the DVD is in sync, maybe some others here can try a PAL DVD too and see what they experience. The DVD is not modified it is a DVD9 original one.

I can confirm that the DVD is in sync, so thats not the problem. The problem is the aspect ratio.

[jdobbs]

I can confirm that the DVD is in sync, so thats not the problem. The problem is the aspect ratio. Are you positive it is PAL and not NTSC? I just don't see how a PAL file could work correctly...

[jdobbs]

Just tried opening a h.264 ts file with BD Rebuilder v0.42.02 (beta) but I get:



Pop-up says:
Demuxing Error
Error: Failed to build BD structure. Aborting.

If I use tsMuxeR GUI on the same file it demuxes fine. :confused: I'll create some TS files and give it a test. I ran my tests using M2TS files.

[Edit] Ok found it. It was truncating a character off the end of the filename in the META file. Just a little more testing and I'll post a fix.

[soneca]

Hi jdobbs,

I can not import some DVDs (NTSC) and a piece of file(M2TS) also had problems.

Failed
[12:24:22] Importing DVD: A_FAMILIA_DO_FUTURO
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:25:58]ERROR: Remuxing to BD failed. Aborted.
----------------------
Failed
[12:27:16] Importing DVD: MONSTROS_VS_ALIENIGENAS
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:29:00]ERROR: Remuxing to BD failed. Aborted.
----------------------
Ok
[12:32:44] Importing DVD: YANNI_LIVE_AT_EL_MORRO
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:35:52] DVD import completed successfully.

M2TS

stop here, do not abort

[13:38:31] Importing M2TS: TESTE
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/soneca1/Forum/teste.jpg

[hifreak]

Are you positive it is PAL and not NTSC? I just don't see how a PAL file could work correctly...

Don´t know so much about why it work like this, but I know and can confirm it is a PAL DVD ;)

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

I can not import some DVDs (NTSC) and a piece of file(M2TS) also had problems.

Failed
[12:24:22] Importing DVD: A_FAMILIA_DO_FUTURO
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:25:58]ERROR: Remuxing to BD failed. Aborted.
----------------------
Failed
[12:27:16] Importing DVD: MONSTROS_VS_ALIENIGENAS
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:29:00]ERROR: Remuxing to BD failed. Aborted.
----------------------
Ok
[12:32:44] Importing DVD: YANNI_LIVE_AT_EL_MORRO
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:35:52] DVD import completed successfully.

M2TS

stop here, do not abort

[13:38:31] Importing M2TS: TESTE
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Building pseudo-BD source structure...

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p305/soneca1/Forum/teste.jpg Can you give me some details about the DVDs that won't import? There are some that aren't BD compliant like MPEG-1 and Half-D1 for example. Frankly, those are few and far between (I've never seen a commercial disc with either).

Try a complete M2TS file... I'm not sure what a "piece" entails...

Also, please identify the audio type of the original. I haven't tested LPCM (I couldn't find one). Opening it with DVD Rebuilder can give you the details.

[AmigaFuture]

Ughh... I screwed that up... don't know what I was thinking. I'll rezip it and post it again.

Ah, no worries. Worry is the most useless thing..except if you want to experience illness, haha. Sometimes we have to notice we're not very focused and get ourselves back into focus. :)

[Nav1]

Hi jdobbs,

BD Rebuilder v0.42.02 (beta)

Just import Dvd (Back to the Future) Got Run-time error '9':

Subscript out of range

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs,

BD Rebuilder v0.42.02 (beta)

Just import Dvd (Back to the Future) Got Run-time error '9':

Subscript out of rangeDo you have a log? At what point did it happen?

[soneca]

Can you give me some details about the DVDs that won't import? There are some that aren't BD compliant like MPEG-1 and Half-D1 for example. Frankly, those are few and far between (I've never seen a commercial disc with either).

Try a complete M2TS file... I'm not sure what a "piece" entails...

Also, please identify the audio type of the original. I haven't tested LPCM (I couldn't find one). Opening it with DVD Rebuilder can give you the details.

Are commercial discs, with standard features and both with DD 5.1 audio.

Information from one of the disks.

General
Complete name : D:\DVD\A_FAMILIA_DO_FUTURO\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Format : DVD Video
Format profile : Program
File size : 66.0 KiB
Duration : 1h 34mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 95 bps

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Duration : 1h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Compression mode : Lossy

Audio
ID : 130 (0x82)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 1h 34mn
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Language : Portuguese

Menu
Duration : 1h 34mn
00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1
00:08:34.964 : Chapter 2
00:10:19.960 : Chapter 3
00:19:41.124 : Chapter 4
00:22:31.624 : Chapter 5
00:23:56.790 : Chapter 6
00:26:21.323 : Chapter 7
00:32:34.186 : Chapter 8
00:42:16.450 : Chapter 9
00:44:56.783 : Chapter 10
00:48:07.515 : Chapter 11
00:49:32.015 : Chapter 12
00:52:19.715 : Chapter 13
00:57:09.480 : Chapter 14
01:02:09.611 : Chapter 15
01:07:02.277 : Chapter 16
01:13:47.641 : Chapter 17
01:20:58.539 : Chapter 18
01:29:04.470 : Chapter 19
01:34:40.268 : Chapter 20
01:41:20.601 : Chapter 21
List (Audio) : 2

I just rip a disc(movie only/AnyDVD/CloneDVD2) well known commercial, A Bug's Life.
Was correctly processed via DVD Rebuilder but the same error occurred in BD Rebuilder.

[17:18:14] One Click encoding activated...
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[17:18:14] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.28.2
- AVISYNTH 2.5.8.0
- HC v0.25.0.0 encoder selected
- Source: BUGS_BRAZIL
- VTS_01: 2.672.445 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 136.525 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 83,2%
- Overall Bitrate : 7.553/6.043Kbs
- Space for Video : 4.200.322KB
- Analyzing VTS_01 for optimal CQ factor.
-- TargetSize (sectors):2.131.664
-- Sampling 1368 of 136525 frames.
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=2,7: 1.823.391
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=2,3: 2.196.946
-- Predicted size (sectors) at CQ=2,4: 2.087.256
- CQ Value selected: 2,4
- Redistributing Final_CQ: 2,4
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 7.585/1.162/6.043 Kbs
[17:21:23] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 3 minutes.
[17:21:23] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 21
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 22
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 23
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 24
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 25
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 26
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 27
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 28
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 29
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 30
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 31
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 32
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 33
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 34
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 35
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 36
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 37
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 38
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 39
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 40
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 41
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 42
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 43
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 44
- Extracting Video for VTS_01 segment 45
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 46
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 47
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 48
[17:30:49] Phase II ENCODING completed in 9 minutes.
[17:30:49] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 3 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 4 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 4 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 5 VOBID 4 CELLID 3
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding seg 6 VOBID 5 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 7 VOBID 5 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 8 VOBID 5 CELLID 3
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding seg 9 VOBID 6 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 10 VOBID 6 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 11 VOBID 6 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 12 VOBID 6 CELLID 4
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Rebuilding seg 13 VOBID 7 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 14 VOBID 7 CELLID 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Rebuilding seg 15 VOBID 8 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 16 VOBID 8 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 17 VOBID 8 CELLID 3
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_08
- Rebuilding seg 18 VOBID 9 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 19 VOBID 9 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 20 VOBID 9 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 21 VOBID 9 CELLID 4
- Rebuilding seg 22 VOBID 9 CELLID 5
- Rebuilding seg 23 VOBID 9 CELLID 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_09
- Rebuilding seg 24 VOBID 10 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 25 VOBID 10 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 26 VOBID 10 CELLID 3
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_10
- Rebuilding seg 27 VOBID 11 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 28 VOBID 11 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 29 VOBID 11 CELLID 3
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_11
- Rebuilding seg 30 VOBID 12 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 31 VOBID 12 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 32 VOBID 12 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 33 VOBID 12 CELLID 4
- Rebuilding seg 34 VOBID 12 CELLID 5
- Rebuilding seg 35 VOBID 12 CELLID 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_12
- Rebuilding seg 36 VOBID 13 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 37 VOBID 13 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 38 VOBID 13 CELLID 3
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_13
- Rebuilding seg 39 VOBID 14 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 40 VOBID 14 CELLID 2
- Rebuilding seg 41 VOBID 14 CELLID 3
- Rebuilding seg 42 VOBID 14 CELLID 4
- Rebuilding seg 43 VOBID 14 CELLID 5
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_14
- Rebuilding seg 44 VOBID 15 CELLID 1
- Rebuilding seg 45 VOBID 15 CELLID 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_15
- Rebuilding seg 46 VOBID 16 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_16
- Rebuilding seg 47 VOBID 17 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_17
- Rebuilding seg 48 VOBID 18 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_18
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[17:35:33] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 5 minutes.

Done.
[17:35:33] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 17 min.

________________________________________________________

[16:05:04] Importing DVD: BUGS_BRAZIL
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[16:07:27]ERROR: Remuxing to BD failed. Aborted.

I'll try later with a full M2TS file with the same characteristics.

[jdobbs]

All I can say is that I'm at about 40-45 DVD discs so far, all NTSC like yours, and none have failed yet. I have no idea what's going on with yours.

As for the M2TS, hang on for the next release. I found a couple things that I've fixed.

[soneca]

Thanks!

Let's wait and see if this problem is happening with other users as well.:confused:

[AmigaFuture]

May I make a recommendation? Put the FORCE_NOENCODE into the Encoding Menu settings? It would be nice to switch to it, like the other; slower, faster..after selections are already made without losing the selected Blanking(s) from editing the config via the GUI.

Also, I tried the import one of my DVDs of The Mentalist, and I can see "Jerking". I didn't set for reencoding. If I play the actual DVD, no jerking. I'll try with a "Movie" soon. Meanwhile, I love to added feature for other backups...including TiVo files.

[jdobbs]

May I make a recommendation? Put the FORCE_NOENCODE into the Encoding Menu settings? It would be nice to switch to it, like the other; slower, faster..after selections are already made without losing the selected Blanking(s) from editing the config via the GUI.

Also, I tried the import one of my DVDs of The Mentalist, and I can see "Jerking". I didn't set for reencoding. If I play the actual DVD, no jerking. I'll try with a "Movie" soon. Meanwhile, I love to added feature for other backups...including TiVo files. Almost all discs have pulldown applied -- many blu-rays players have problems with pulldown in BD format (even if you keep the original MPEG-2 source). I'd suggest you make sure you have IVTC enabled (to remove the pulldown) and resize to 720 or 1080 -- that way pulldown doesn't have to be reapplied (because 23.976fps is legal for those resolutions).

I've purposely put FORCE_NOENCODE in the hidden options because it is so rarely used. People forget, and then I get dozens of bug reports related to oversizing. I want to keep "special feature" types of options (than can cause reencoding/resizing/non-compliance issues) off the radar except for people who really understand the implications.

[steveg32]

v0.41.01, "Men In Black (#1)", Full Backup was no problem to BD-25, but unable to backup as Movie-Only Backup>Alternate Movie-Only Output (DVD-5). Tried both available Playlists (016 Chapters). This is the 1st & only time this has ever happened.

@jdobbs, can you duplicate? Sorry but I deleted all ini files, etc.

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: [2.5.8.0], Ok
- HAALI Splitter: [1.9.42.1], Ok
- FFDSHOW: [3882], Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "ffmpeg-mt": Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- BD Rebuilder v0.41.0.1, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

Mahalo brah :)

I'll see what I can find...

@jdobbs

Fyi, I did same for Men In Black II. No problems. Funny how it only happens with MIB I :confused:

Aloha

[xterminater]

jdobbs, I try to search for answer to this question but I couldn't find any so if I ask, please don't go crazy! :) If a bluray disc has both 2D & 3D version, will BD-RB be able to back up the 2D portion only?

[Ch3vr0n]

jdobbs, I try to search for answer to this question but I couldn't find any so if I ask, please don't go crazy! :) If a bluray disc has both 2D & 3D version, will BD-RB be able to back up the 2D portion only?

It can, bdrb ignores the SSIF folder. The menu will still list the 3d entry but it won't start the movie / work. The only time i tried that selecting the 3d option stopped disc playback, selecting the 2d option worked as it should.



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[Sharc]

Almost all discs have pulldown applied -- many blu-rays players have problems with pulldown in BD format (even if you keep the original MPEG-2 source). I'd suggest you make sure you have IVTC enabled (to remove the pulldown) and resize to 720 or 1080 -- that way pulldown doesn't have to be reapplied (because 23.976fps is legal for those resolutions).

As far as I remember from earlier experience, tsmuxer does not support any --pulldown options. I think this is still the case as tsmuxer has not seen any further development since.

[jdobbs]

As far as I remember from earlier experience, tsmuxer does not support any --pulldown options. I think this is still the case as tsmuxer has not seen any further development since. The pulldown is added in X264. TSMUXER accepts the source with pulldown, shows it as such in its window, and recognizes it as 29.97fps. If there are issues with it's handling pulldown I'm not aware of it. But I can say my Samsung player doesn't play it very well. I generally just use 23.976 via SD_PROGRESSIVE on 720x480 sources if I'm keeping them at SD. Even though it is against the BD standard (so I can't outright recommend it), I've never seen a player that wouldn't accept it.

I should correct myself, though. I said "Almost all discs have pulldown applied..." -- I should have said "Almost all NTSC discs have pulldown applied...

TSMUXER does have an option to remove pulldown.

[Sharc]

The pulldown is added in X264. TSMUXER accepts the source with pulldown, shows it as such in its window, and recognizes it as 29.97fps. If there are issues with it's handling pulldown I'm not aware of it. But I can say my Samsung player doesn't play it very well.

Yes, it's added in x264 but you may remember that we had some discussion on --pulldown and jerky playback based on various experiments and settings, and at the end the conclusion (suspicion) was that there seem to be issues with tsmuxer (+/- confirmed by others as well) not handling pulldown correctly. I have no proof however, but see also the note here (http://www.x264bluray.com/issues-with-certain-players).
Player or tsmuxer -- it seems advisable to avoid --pulldown if possible.

[pasadena]

I am storing all my movies into ISO rips using a custom 9GB setting, movie-only mode, high-speed option and both encoding un-ticked to enable 2-pass encoding. This results in crunching the movie down in a few hours. I will be storing an HD audio stream wherever possible within the 9GB iso and leaving the rest for video.

Has anyone used this option and compared the results without the high-speed option and highest (very slow) encoding selecting instead? If so, are there big difference in the resulting output or is it only marginal, if at all?

I'm trying the second option and see how long that takes and what the outcome is and will compare it to the original. I just did a run using the first option using kick-ass as the movie input and the output seems excellent. Though, I'd have to wait for this second one to finish to compare the results.

As I have a BDP-93, I'd want the ISO rips to be large enough so I would prefer the better outcome video quality wise, even if it takes many hours longer. My initial intention will not to burn these to bdr-25gb blanks as I want to store my rips into a reasonable size so that I can fit as many onto a 2TB disk without compromising video quality and thought 9GB was a good place to start. I do have an LTO Ultrium 4 backup drive and will instead backups my rips to tapes.

Your input appreciated.

Cheers

[lauguru]

a question, HIDDENOPTS.txt file does not appear, or rather, only appears ...
AUTO_BIAS = n n = 0-3
n=4 would use the writing process:work?

AUTO_BIAS=4
ENCODE_QUALITY=4 Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow)

[jdobbs]

a question, HIDDENOPTS.txt file does not appear, or rather, only appears ...
AUTO_BIAS = n n = 0-3
n=4 would use the writing process:work?

AUTO_BIAS=4
ENCODE_QUALITY=4 Quality: Ultra High Quality (Extremely Slow)

The AUTO_BIAS setting affects the threshold as to where the decision points are made using AUTOMATIC mode. So if you select anything other than AUTOMATIC, it has no affect at all. But if you set it to a higher value, there is a bias toward using higher quality settings as opposed to lower quality settings. But the decision is still based on frame counts, target size, and bitrate.

[lauguru]

The AUTO_BIAS setting affects the threshold as to where the decision points are made using AUTOMATIC mode. So if you select anything other than AUTOMATIC, it has no affect at all. But if you set it to a higher value, there is a bias toward using higher quality settings as opposed to lower quality settings. But the decision is still based on frame counts, target size, and bitrate.

thanks for reply, but if I put in bdrebuider.ini,
AUTO_BIAS = 4
ENCODE_QUALITY = 4
would be compatible with each other?
or AUTO_BIAS is limited to (3)


http://subir.cc/images/i7way.jpg
edit rebuilder.ini
[Options]
VERSION=0.42.0.2
MODE=0
AUTO_BIAS=4
ENABLE_TEST=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=1
DTSX_ENABLE=1
AUTO_BIAS=4
MULTIPROCESS=16
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1
MIN_PLAYLIST_MINS=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24925
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUTO_BURN=0
TARGET_SIZE=24925
ENABLE_BLANKING=1




"I just got a good price an i7-980x (multiprocess = 16)"

:)

[piker]

hello boys BDrebuild 0.42.0.1 does not make the crop

[setarip_old]

@pasadena

Hi!

The purpose of this thread is specifically to bring to light bugs that arise during beta testing, so that jdobbs can resolve them.

You should feel free to start a new thread for postings of other questions and/or observations regarding BDRebuilder...

[LowDead]

hello boys BDrebuild 0.42.0.1 does not make the crop

Please make bug report for the latest version.

[AmigaFuture]

I think I'm missing something in the options. With the new Importing method, I noticed using the SD_PROGRESSIVE that 29 does get changed to 23.976...no re-rendering for 720x480 sources. Video is still jerky via LG Player and software. Would it be possible to add a re-render feature that keeps the same resolution to get a smooth output (SD to SD with Pulldown)? Or are there options I'm not using correctly, or a combination? The SD to 720p does look Good, but I'd rather keep the same 720x480 with a 2 pass encode.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I think I'm missing something in the options. With the new Importing method, I noticed using the SD_PROGRESSIVE that 29 does get changed to 23.976...no re-rendering for 720x480 sources. Video is still jerky via LG Player and software. Would it be possible to add a re-render feature that keeps the same resolution to get a smooth output (SD to SD with Pulldown)? Or are there options I'm not using correctly, or a combination? The SD to 720p does look Good, but I'd rather keep the same 720x480 with a 2 pass encode.

Thanks.Does BD Rebuilder tell you it is IVTC'd in the log? If not, then the source isn't using pulldown or you haven't told BD-RB to IVTC in SETUP. That is required to output to 23.976.

But... if both of those are set, and it doesn't IVTC -- then the source isn't pulldown and it can't be output as FILM (23.976). In that case then if it is jumpy, then either the original or your players are at fault.

If you don't want to IVTC, then just uncheck those two and let BD-RB reencode at 29.97. I'd also suggest you use the DEINTERLACE option. Those settings are the default in BD-RB. If you are experiencing jerkiness with the defaults set -- you'd better check on your players -- because the jerkiness isn't coming from the processing.

Just as a note... I'm POSITIVE the IVTC/SD_PROGRESSIVE combination is working correctly. All 45+ of the DVDs I've converted in testing worked correctly using those options and they all used pulldown.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with links to a new release of BD-RB (v0.42.03). Changes for this version:- Added code to correct for the occasional audio
PTS start delta during DVD importing.
- Corrected an issue in which the framerate for
imported PAL DVDs could be incorrectly pulled
from the source IFO files. This would result
in audio sync issues.
- Made changes to video file import so that DTS-HD,
TRUE-HD, and LPCM sources are properly handled in
.TS and .M2TS files.
- Corrected an error in which importing .TS files
will fail during attempt to create BD structure.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[AmigaFuture]

I wasn't doubting you. No intention was meant that way. :) Doing some tests. Thanks a lot for the reply.

Ah, sheeeot....hahaha, I forgot about the sizes...I haven't used the custom sizing for a bit. Since episodes are about 42 minutes, the file size has to be taken into account. Laughing at myself!! Got it.

[Paddy97]

Latest version still produces 4:3 output from PAL DVDs. Audio is in sync.

----------------------
[16:49:07] Importing DVD: TIGGER_MOVIE
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[17:00:19] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[09-14-12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)
[17:04:58] Source: TIGGER_MOVIE_PLAYLIST_00000
- Input BD size: 4,45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:13:57.960]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, 448Kbs DD5.1
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:04:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:04:58] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [17:04:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:07:13] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 110*949 frames
- [17:07:13] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:19:38] Video Encode complete
- [17:19:38] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4354 (swe): Keeping original audio
[17:19:43]PHASE ONE complete
[17:19:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:19:43] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[17:20:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:20:01] JOB: TIGGER_MOVIE finished.


[Status]
LABEL=TIGGER_MOVIE
VERSION=v0.42.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4780314624
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4780314624
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.980288226317381
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=8
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=001000
PGS=00000000
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4686086144
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Ch3vr0n]

[17:14:40] Importing DVD: COUGARS_INC
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[17:18:59] DVD import completed successfully.
----------------------
[09/14/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)
[18:26:01] Source: COUGARS_INC
- Input BD size: 0,00 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:18:38.912]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [2-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- [18:26:01] DoEncoding() 00011 1502
[18:26:05] - Failed to complete.
----------------------

Using x264 LAVF was able to start the encoding itself
----------------------
[09/14/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.03 (beta)
[18:26:20] Source: COUGARS_INC
- Input BD size: 4,22 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:18:38.912]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF [2-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:26:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:26:20] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [18:26:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [18:27:28] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [18:27:28] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [18:27:28] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [18:27:28] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:30:21]PHASE ONE complete
[18:30:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:30:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:30:21] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:30:21] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- COUGARS_INC folder removed.
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[18:32:49] JOB: COUGARS_INC finished.

However the subtitles were not present in the encode while they were selected in the window, **edit** i mean they were selectable in TMT5, but did not show up. Checked the original source and on the DVD they worked

[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
IMGBURN_TARGET_DEVICE=e:
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
OPEN_GOP=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
USE_FILTERS=0
USE_LAVF=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=60
DTSX_ENABLE=1
MULTIPROCESS=1
VERSION=0.42.0.3
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
BEEP_SOUNDFILE=C:\Program Files (x86)\ImgBurn\Sounds\Success.wav
DGDECNV=0
IMPORT_FOLDER=D:\TEMP
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\
SOURCE_PATH=D:\TEMP\IMPORTS\COUGARS_INC\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\BD_Rebuilder\dgdecnv\DGDecodeNV.dll

[Status]
LABEL=COUGARS_INC
VERSION=v0.42.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=4527117420
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=4527034368
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=5.44317779475714
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=dut;eng;nld;und;
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=2
DGDECNV=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
USE_ORIGINAL=1
AUDIO=11
PGS=1
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641452948
NSTART=27000000
NEND=239351040
NSIZE=4527034368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


** edit ** also noticed something from the Source path textbox. Seems like the path gets truncated. I have a rip on "Z:\Blu-Ray\Double Layer\DTS-E\UNDERWORLD_RISE_OF_THE_LYCANS" however the path gets truncated to "Z:\Blu-Ray\Double".

[Adbear]

When converting a DVD to Blu-ray is there any way to stop it from converting all the subtitles and only convert the ones you want to keep? Some of my DVD's have 15+ subtitle tracks which takes around 8 minutes to convert when I only want to keep 1 of them

[omegaman7]

When converting a DVD to Blu-ray is there any way to stop it from converting all the subtitles and only convert the ones you want to keep? Some of my DVD's have 15+ subtitle tracks which takes around 8 minutes to convert when I only want to keep 1 of them

Once BD-RB imports the dvd/s, you should be able to enter setup and deselect the ones you don't wanna keep. Perhaps even double click on the individual subs ;)

I Haven't tried this yet, but it appears that way to me.

Jdobbs! That's awesome LOL! You convert the Mpeg 2 to BD compliancy on the fly. No actual encoding is done. Simply wonderful. Expect a donation soon ;) If one however wants to upscale, or make serious changes, obviously one needs to re-encode.

[Ch3vr0n]

that's true for BD's, i didn't check this on my last DVD encode but it pretty much converted them all automatically

[omegaman7]

Well yes. In the import section. If one wants to make actual changes, then they need to reencode, eh?

[Adbear]

It doesn't, it imports and converts all the subs automatically, then after 8-10 mins of importing it fails.

[omegaman7]

I imported "Unthinkable" without any failures :S Must be unique circumstances.

[Adbear]

looks that way, the next disc imported, made into a Blu-ray, but no subtitles on the output

[omegaman7]

I greatly look forward to more advancements. A simplistic menu would be very appealing. Perhaps a design, that allows the user to import their own buttons. For instance, I love creating my own PNG images, and adding them to the appropriate Nero Vision folders ;)

Never tried it with ConvertX. Perhaps that's possible though.

[jdobbs]

Well yes. In the import section. If one wants to make actual changes, then they need to reencode, eh? For a DVD import, you can burn directly from that folder if you wish. For other imports (like MP4, MKV, etc) you can't do that -- as the audio/video isn't necessarily BD compliant at that point. That's why I call those a "Pseudo-BD" format. For example, some of the video sources may need borders added during encoding in order to be a standard BD compliant format.

[jdobbs]

I imported "Unthinkable" without any failures :S Must be unique circumstances. I'm at about 50 imports of DVDs now. No issues, not failures during conversion, all in sync, all subs working (but all NTSC). If folks are having issues, I'd like to get details as to what they are experiencing so I can see what's different about their attempts.

[jdobbs]

looks that way, the next disc imported, made into a Blu-ray, but no subtitles on the output What are you using to play it back? I've tested with two Samsung standalone players and with PowerDVD 11 -- and both are working correctly. Is this NTSC or PAL? What disc are you trying?