BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Steff 320i]

I wanted to backup "Wall-E" movie-only today. Beta 18.07 didn't even start to extract audio. "Error extracting audio" or something like that.
I switched to beta 18.04 and it started working right away. Unfortunately, the backup shows audio sync issues. You can't notice it at the beginning, but the delay gets bigger as you keep watching. At the end of the movie, there's a gap of apprx 2 seconds between audio and video.
For example: You see Wall-E hitting the ground, but you hear the "crash" sound 2 seconds later. This error happens during playback on my computer and my Samsung BD-P1500. Can I play with the settings in order to get this fixed?

Oh, after trying "Wall-E", I also made a movie only backup of "The Patriot" (Mel Gibson), leaving the settings just like they were before (still beta 18.04). Worked absolutely great. Subtitles are there, and no sync issues at all. Three hours of movie really do fit on a BD-5 (DVD-R), but I think I will redo this one on BD-9 (DVD-DL).

[MvB]

I was thinking that the ps3 maybe has problems with the pulldown flags in the stream. Didn't have time to research how to insert or remove pulldown flags after encoding, but maybe it's worth a try.

If i'm not mistaken there was a --pulldown 32 option in x264, too, if that has anything to do with it.

[mmace]

and will let you know if mine was successful as well.. BTW, using the libavcodec to decode.
libavcodec is the only one which doesn't crash x264 on mine, but it runs at 0.31fps (single pass) and is using 15% of both cores!

As for mmace, you might want to do movie only.... I know at least one playlist has multiple m2ts files, and I think I remember some had issues with this on VC-1 encoded Blurays.I don't need to do it, I was just trying the software out to see how well it worked and what the quality would be like when shrunk to BD-R 25, just going to keep messing til it works!

[laserfan]

My wife managed to buy that one today, so I plugged it-in to take a quick look. BD-RB seems to me to be working just fine...
Actually the process completed with errors for 6 of the streams/programs on the disc: 287, 288, 289, 293, 294, and 295.

All of these have in common that they are VC-1, AP@L3, 1920x1080, and 29.970, Interlaced TFF. Those that work fine are Progressive 23.976fps. The error(s) are the same for all, and the result is an incomplete .stats file and zero .264 files:

- [01:39:19] Collecting video information [00287]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 3,609 Kbs
- [01:39:21] Reencoding: VID_00287, Pass 1 of 2
- Error [01:-1073741819] returned from encoder. Retrying.
- Error [02:-1073741819] returned from encoder. Retrying.
- Error [03:-1073741819] returned from encoder. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- [01:55:36] Reencoding: VID_00287, Pass 2 of 2
- Error [01:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
- Error [02:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
- Error [03:-1] returned from encoder. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- [01:55:40] Video Encode complete
So BD-RB seems not to be detecting the Interlaced characteristic of these, and thus not setting the x264 --interlaced option on encode???

Unfortunately these streams are the key extras that you'd want in a full backup. jdobbs you might want to pick this one up--despite my skepticism we watched it last night and it is loads of musical fun... :p

P.S. Selection of any of these programs from the menu causes both PDVD and AS TMT to abort. Used latest BD-RB v0.18.7.

[laserfan]

I'd like to try fixing the 6 bad files "by hand" and then re-building, but can't seem to figure-out how to tell BD-RB that I want to just REBUILD again (PHASE TWO). I tried changing REBUILD_COMPLETE from =1 to =0 in BDREBUILDER.INF but I still get only a 'Backup' button, not Resume, and if I click it I'm asked if I want to Delete all working files?

How do I get BD-RB to just remux to BDMV from the WORKFILES directory??? :confused:

[smnckl]

I'd like to try fixing the 6 bad files "by hand" and then re-building, but can't seem to figure-out how to tell BD-RB that I want to just REBUILD again (PHASE TWO). I tried changing REBUILD_COMPLETE from =1 to =0 in BDREBUILDER.INF but I still get only a 'Backup' button, not Resume, and if I click it I'm asked if I want to Delete all working files?

How do I get BD-RB to just remux to BDMV from the WORKFILES directory??? :confused:

Have you tried deleting the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders and then running BD-RE again? I think that might help.

[Sharc]

So BD-RB seems not to be detecting the Interlaced characteristic of these, and thus not setting the x264 --interlaced option on encode???

Unfortunately these streams are the key extras .....
If you read through earlier posts you will find that ffmpeg / directshow has problems with decoding mixed interlaced/progressive VC-1 streams which is often found in the Extras of VC-1 disks. Apparently only few (not free) decoders can cope with such material.

[laserfan]

Have you tried deleting the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders and then running BD-RE again? I think that might help.I'd tried renaming MAMMA_MIA to "MAMMA_MIA first" and that didn't work, then I moved it away and indeed you were right, that worked fine, thanks!

In the end, instead of trying to deinterlace as BD-RB, I instead just indexed those six extras with DGVC1index and encoded interlaced...

[MikeyBK]

I'd like to try fixing the 6 bad files "by hand" and then re-building, but can't seem to figure-out how to tell BD-RB that I want to just REBUILD again (PHASE TWO). I tried changing REBUILD_COMPLETE from =1 to =0 in BDREBUILDER.INF but I still get only a 'Backup' button, not Resume, and if I click it I'm asked if I want to Delete all working files?

How do I get BD-RB to just remux to BDMV from the WORKFILES directory??? :confused:

You would need to join the work file m2ts files with TSSplitter, then remux that joined m2ts into Bluray format with either TSMuxer or TSRemux..... then BD-RB can load it to reencode...

[jwgallardo]

As for the Denon issue you mention... wasn't that associated with an incompatiblity issue with the empty AUXDATA folder?...and not related in any way to this current PS3 skipping issue??

No. Certainly it seems my Denon do not support AVCHD discs, but it recognized discs with full BD folder structures (aka without the option "Strictly AVCHD" enable).With version 0.17.3 it played discs (movie only/BD5) fine. Since version 0.18.4, the disc is recognized but the player got stuck immediately after trying to play the disc. Since it was working perfect in version 0.17, I'm assuming the issue is very similar that the skipping issues with PS3. It was not present on v0.17 but it is in v0.18. The only difference is that denon player refuses to play discs created with v0.18 (but indeed the disc is recognized as BD). Only Jdobbs could give us an idea.

PS. Full movie mode working perfect in all versions.

[smnckl]

I'd tried renaming MAMMA_MIA to "MAMMA_MIA first" and that didn't work, then I moved it away and indeed you were right, that worked fine, thanks!

You are welcome. Actually found this tip in one of the earlier posts. :)

James

[smnckl]

No. Certainly it seems my Denon do not support AVCHD discs, but it recognized discs with full BD folder structures (aka without the option "Strictly AVCHD" enable).With version 0.17.3 it played discs (movie only/BD5) fine. Since version 0.18.4, the disc is recognized but the player got stuck immediately after trying to play the disc. Since it was working perfect in version 0.17, I'm assuming the issue is very similar that the skipping issues with PS3. It was not present on v0.17 but it is in v0.18. The only difference is that denon player refuses to play discs created with v0.18 (but indeed the disc is recognized as BD). Only Jdobbs could give us an idea.

PS. Full movie mode working perfect in all versions.

Have you taken a look at the *.bdmv, *.clpi and *.mpls files? Could it be that the *.bdmv files show that it is BD while the *.clpi and *.mpls files identify it as AVCHD? This could be throwing off your standalone's firmware. Just a guess.

There is a thread here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143600) about authoring for the Panasonic standalone... maybe someone there can help you further?

James

[mmace]

If you read through earlier posts you will find that ffmpeg / directshow has problems with decoding mixed interlaced/progressive VC-1 streams which is often found in the Extras of VC-1 disks. Apparently only few (not free) decoders can cope with such material.I've searched through the post but cannot find these decoders you mention, care to say what they are so I can look into buying them?

also, once the extras are encoded using libav I can abort, set it to a faster codec and restart doing the main movie (which it does last)?

[jdobbs]

Ok, I was out-of-town for a while and couldn't respond...

For the folks having PS3 skipping problems -- is that on BD-25, BD-9, BD-5 or all?

Which encoder quality setting are you using?

Also, could someone try using the setting "ENCODE_QUALITY=6" and see if the skipping goes away. That uses the original command line that was in v0.17... That would at least eliminate the X264 settings.

Thanks.

[Sharc]

I've searched through the post but cannot find these decoders you mention, care to say what they are so I can look into buying them?

also, once the extras are encoded using libav I can abort, set it to a faster codec and restart doing the main movie (which it does last)?

The only decoder I found which did never fail on VC-1 mixed progressive/interlaced material was neuron2's DGVC1DecNV.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1215718#post1215718
It works with newer Nvidia cards only (!) and is not supported by BD-RB. So I guess there are still certain VC-1 files - sometimes found in the Extras of VC-1 BDs - for which BD-RB will fail.

IIRC there has been a post stating that the SONIC decoder might also work.

[mcalistor]

Long time lurker, first time poster, love the forum, great topic.

Thanks to the wealth of information within this thread, I've successfully made backups of at least a dozen of my movies, no problems! I've done both BD9s and BD5s. I always use "movie only", ultra high quality 2 pass, and audio is untouched.

The quality is amazing, even on the BD5s. It's funny how a 25gb BD can look good at BD5 while an 8gb DVD looks terrible at DVD5. Anyways, lately, encountered a couple problems, not sure if they're bugs though:

1. The last three rebuilds, all of them at BD9, play in a narrow format on my Sammy BD-P2500. The first 10-12 backups all played flawlessly (as long as I remember to enable "Stricter AVCHD"), but the last three are messed up. I get big sidebars on my 16:9 DLP. The movies play fine on my PC using Classic Media Player at the proper wide aspect ratio of 2.35:1. I checked my HT setup by testing some previous backups, no problem, so I know my config is good. The only way I can fix it is to switch my BD player to output 720p and "format" the TV to "wide expand", but then the movie is obviously cropped and PQ is down. Like I said, this probably isn't a bug, but maybe someone knows what the dealio is.

2. All of my builds come up short of their intended media capacity, for example, a BD9 build will be anywhere from 300MB to a full GB less than the available size of the disc. BD5's also come up short between 300 and 400 MB. So I thought I try to manually adjust the size, just by 100MB to see if that helped. The 2nd pass finishes okay, but then my PC bluescreens during the rebuilding phase. The first time I did this was on a BD5, PC crashed towards the end of the rebuild. The second time was on a BD9, PC crashed before anything was written to the BD structure. BTW, I'm using Vista 64bit and libavcodec.

Here's the logged error:

-----------------------
[21:47:17] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: THE MATRIX
- Input BD size: 8.08 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:16:17.770]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:47:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:55:31] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
[07:51:10]PHASE ONE complete
[07:51:10]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:51:10] Rebuilding BD file Structure

And here's my build config:

[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
TARGET_SIZE=8010
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BD WORKFLOW - BD FORMAT\THE MATRIX\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BD WORKFLOW - OUTPUT\THE MATRIX\

[jdobbs]

The last three rebuilds, all of them at BD9, play in a narrow format on my Sammy BD-P2500. I'm not sure how that could happen. Most HD is 1:1 ratio -- and the SAR for other item settings (extras) haven't changed at all. Is it possible you may have changed settings on your player?

[MikeyBK]

Ok, I was out-of-town for a while and couldn't respond...

For the folks having PS3 skipping problems -- is that on BD-25, BD-9, BD-5 or all?

Which encoder quality setting are you using?

Also, could someone try using the setting "ENCODE_QUALITY=6" and see if the skipping goes away. That uses the original command line that was in v0.17... That would at least eliminate the X264 settings.

Thanks.
For my three that skipped on the PS3s, it was all on th Fast setting and all BD-9s..

I can try the encode quality 6 tonite on one of those that did skip. Will let you know the result, probably tommorrow morning snce I am currently half way thru re-doing XFiles at the moment.

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I found a problem with audio language on Disney BluRays.

I have here for example "chronicles of narnia, part 1", region B, german.

After language selection on the first screen (choose german), then there comes a general BluRay Disc trailer -> german language

Immediatly after this, the come some Movie trailers. These are not in one m2ts files, but in more. Its 4 trailes and in between them, the are some short animations like "in cinema" or "on bluray".

On this trailers, the in between animations are german (eg. "Im Kino"), so it plays the correct playlist. But the audio on all trailers is english. On the original the audio is german.

Right click on PowerDVD->audio selection gives me only german audio to choose (already selected), even though in the m2ts is english and german (checked).

In the main movie, audio mapping is OK.

So problem summary:
Language dialog (choose german) -> BluRay Trailer (german) -> 4 Movie Trailers (english, should be german) -> movie menu.

Some screens:
http://gruber.members.linea7.com/forum.doom9.org/_BDRB_TCON1_languageproblem1.jpg

http://gruber.members.linea7.com/forum.doom9.org/_BDRB_TCON1_languageproblem2.jpg

Bye

Hi!

I have found exactly the same problem again on a different disc, also a Disney one. National Treasure 2.

This time tested with newest version 0.18.7. Keep all languages (audio + subs).

Interesting: The same trailer on right click in PowerDVD->Audio
- before the main movie: Only shows "German" as Language, English Audio is played
- when chosen the trailer from popup menu later: English, German and other lanuages to choose, and german is played

The INF file:
[Status]
LABEL=NATIONAL_TREASURE
VERSION=v0.18.7 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=47156211631
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=47036030976
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.510184784877883
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
PASS=0
COMPLETED=48
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00013]
M2TS_TARGET=68089245
RATE=7199
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M2TS_TARGET=56065014
RATE=7191
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RATE=7231
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M2TS_TARGET=25562462
RATE=7133
AUDIO=1
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[00017]
M2TS_TARGET=85821538
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RATE=7266
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M2TS_TARGET=166217125
RATE=7296
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[00022]
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M2TS_TARGET=22346387
RATE=7176
AUDIO=1
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[00027]
M2TS_TARGET=33724896
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M2TS_TARGET=335647191
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M2TS_TARGET=450808353
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Bye

[GaPony]

For my three that skipped on the PS3s, it was all on th Fast setting and all BD-9s..

I can try the encode quality 6 tonite on one of those that did skip. Will let you know the result, probably tommorrow morning snce I am currently half way thru re-doing XFiles at the moment.

With 18.7, The ones that skip appear to skip on any quality setting. I ran Pride & Glory (Movie Only) at every possible setting for quality and both BD-9 and BD-5 discs, and got the skipping. I copied the whole movie to a BD-25 disc with ImgBurn and it played perfectly. (Its a 22gb original disc).

[mcalistor]

I'm not sure how that could happen. Most HD is 1:1 ratio -- and the SAR for other item settings (extras) haven't changed at all. Is it possible you may have changed settings on your player?

Yeah, I don't think it's your software either. I did re-check the BD player and TV, and everything looks good, works fine on everything else that I've "rebuilded". There's nothing specific in the BD folder/file structure that addresses aspect ratio, is there? Maybe the source is corrupt. tsMuxeR reports source is 1920:816p, Profile 4.1.

I've got a couple more "rebuilds" to burn tonight (one for sure, the other may take until tomorrow to finish), both with unmodified output sizes (BD9). I'll let you know how they turn out.

[jdobbs]

tsMuxeR reports source is 1920:816pThat can't be good.

[jdobbs]

For my three that skipped on the PS3s, it was all on th Fast setting and all BD-9s..

I can try the encode quality 6 tonite on one of those that did skip. Will let you know the result, probably tommorrow morning snce I am currently half way thru re-doing XFiles at the moment.
Anyone else? Is everyone experiencing skipping on a PS3 since the 0.18 update -- or only a few?

The reason I asked for the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting is because that would enable exactly the same X264 settings as were in use for v0.17.13.

[laserfan]

The only decoder I found which did never fail on VC-1 mixed progressive/interlaced material was neuron2's DGVC1DecNV....IIRC there has been a post stating that the SONIC decoder might also work.I didn't believe this when I read it, but sure enough when I tried libavcodec and WMVDecode DMO they failed, and I couldn't get Sonic HD Decoder to open it.

Then I demuxed the raw vc1 track and libavcodec still failed on it, but Sonic worked, at least for display--but I still couldn't make a graph that would work with Avisynth as input to x264... :confused:

[GaPony]

Anyone else? Is everyone experiencing skipping on a PS3 since the 0.18 update -- or only a few?

The reason I asked for the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting is because that would enable exactly the same X264 settings as were in use for v0.17.13.

I'll run Pride and Glory through again with the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting. I should be a good test, since I know for certain there isn't a problem with the original decrypted output from AnyDVD. I'll be using the most recent version 18.7.

[NexGen76]

Anyone else? Is everyone experiencing skipping on a PS3 since the 0.18 update -- or only a few?

The reason I asked for the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting is because that would enable exactly the same X264 settings as were in use for v0.17.13.


I got skipping on Encode_Quality=6 doing BD-9 & BD-5.

[jdobbs]

Then I'm at a loss as to what is causing it if it is within BD-RB. It is using exactly the same encoding and muxing parameters as was used in previous versions. I did update the X264.EXE release with that version also. You may want to try the newer version of BD-RB with the X264.EXE from v0.17.13 just to see if that might be the issue.

Could you please send me the LASTCMD.TXT, INF and INI files used for the encoding? Send to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com

[klas]

I noticed that when the source is a Bluray remux (only movie) not fullBluRay is not possible to resume the second pass. Although not change anything Only press backup and abort. After several hours it is sad to see that all work is not productive. It is possible to manually make a resume?

[jwgallardo]

Then I'm at a loss as to what is causing it if it is within BD-RB. It is using exactly the same encoding and muxing parameters as was used in previous versions. I did update the X264.EXE release with that version also. You may want to try the newer version of BD-RB with the X264.EXE from v0.17.13 just to see if that might be the issue.

Could you please send me the LASTCMD.TXT, INF and INI files used for the encoding? Send to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com

Movie Only / BD5 and BD9 disc (not AVCHD)
Jdobbs: Do you think it is the same issue I'm having with my denon player? It was working with v0.17.3 and not working with v0.18. The other difference I did was that I selected "good" as encoder setting in v0.18. Anything I can try or send you?

[jdobbs]

I noticed that when the source is a Bluray remux (only movie) not fullBluRay is not possible to resume the second pass. Although not change anything Only press backup and abort. After several hours it is sad to see that all work is not productive. It is possible to manually make a resume?
Unfortunately you are typically encoding the entire movie for a "movie-only" encode. So the only point at which you could resume is between the first and second passes.

I may add an option in which the chapters are encoded individually. That way you could exit/resume at shorter intervals.

The other option is to set the encode so that it is using IDLE PRIORITY under the ENCODER SETTINGS menu and then select MINIMIZE TO TRAY under the FILE menu. That way you can let it run while using your computer and it will only use unused processor time -- letting other applications have priority. But when you aren't using your computer for something else, it will run at a speed comparible to what you'd get get with a higher priority. That's how I usually run mine.

[jdobbs]

Movie Only / BD5 and BD9 disc (not AVCHD)
Jdobbs: Do you think it is the same issue I'm having with my denon player? It was working with v0.17.3 and not working with v0.18. The other difference I did was that I selected "good" as encoder setting in v0.18. Anything I can try or send you? Possibly. If you are setting ENCODE_QUALITY=6 then "GOOD" can't be selected also (the checkbox should be off on all selections in the encoder speed area of the menu). I'm starting to wonder if it might be the updated version of X264 that is at fault -- mainly because that is the only thing that changed if someone is using ENCODE_QUALITY=6.

Make sure you stop/restart BD-RB after setting ENCODE_QUALITY=6. It only gets read when booting or resetting from the menu (but "6" isn't a visible option).

I'd really appreciate it if one of the PS3 users tried an encode with the older version of X264.

[klas]

Unfortunately you are typically encoding the entire movie for a "movie-only" encode. So the only point at which you could resume is between the first and second passes.



Its not posible resume between the first and the second. That ist the real probleme. Finish the firts pass and begin the second(50 % of second) . I press abort and backup inmediatly and no resume


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I may add an option in which the chapters are encoded individually. That way you could exit/resume at shorter intervals.



Thank you for this

The other option is to set the encode so that it is using IDLE PRIORITY under the ENCODER SETTINGS menu and then select MINIMIZE TO TRAY under the FILE menu. That way you can let it run while using your computer and it will only use unused processor time -- letting other applications have priority. But when you aren't using your computer for something else, it will run at a speed comparible to what you'd get get with a higher priority. That's how I usually run mine.

Imposible, the terrible noise of the computer in the room its the probleme.

[jdobbs]

Unfortunately there is no option (I know of) within X264 to let you exit and resume an encode -- so resuming at the begining of the last attempted pass in the only way I can do it.

[DarWun]

I'd really appreciate it if one of the PS3 users tried an encode with the older version of X264.

I have had problems with Movie Only encodes to BD9 skipping on the PS3 since switching to v0.18.7. The first movie I tried after upgrading to v0.18.7 was Max Payne. After several unsuccessful attempts, I went back and tried a movie that I had previously backed up successfully using v0.17.3. With v0.18.7 the final encode skipped. Reverting back to v0.17.3 resulted in a final encode that did not skip.

Long story short (kind of late for that), I am currently doing another Movie Only encode using v0.18.7 and the version of x264.exe that was in the v0.17.3 distribution package. I'll post my results after the encode finishes.

[Dark Shikari]

Imposible, the terrible noise of the computer in the room its the probleme.Your computer has a "hibernate" button. If you need to pause the encode, use that instead of shutting it down.

[jdobbs]

I have had problems with Movie Only encodes to BD9 skipping on the PS3 since switching to v0.18.7. The first movie I tried after upgrading to v0.18.7 was Max Payne. After several unsuccessful attempts, I went back and tried a movie that I had previously backed up successfully using v0.17.3. With v0.18.7 the final encode skipped. Reverting back to v0.17.3 resulted in a final encode that did not skip.

Long story short (kind of late for that), I am currently doing another Movie Only encode using v0.18.7 and the version of x264.exe that was in the v0.17.3 distribution package. I'll post my results after the encode finishes. Much appreciated. Are there multiple parts (more than one video listing in the streams window) in this movie-only encode? The reason I ask is that I just remembered that in that version I also use TSMUXER to combine the sections, where in previous versions I used AVISYNTH (with the numerous CODEC instances that could cause memory crashes). Does the "skip" seem to occur at the same points as the splits (the individual M2TS files in the working directory)? I don't see it on my player -- but maybe the PS3 is sensitive in some way.

[jdobbs]

Also, just to be clear, when we say there is "skipping" on the PS3 -- what does that mean? A huge jump? What appears to be a single missing frame? Audio glitch?

Thanks.

[Dark Shikari]

With all due respect, that makes just about zero sense. The only reason you would need to pause encoding is because you have a higher priority task to accomplish... hibernating the system just makes the entire PC unuseable. I know you work hard on your product, and are justifiably proud, but gimme a break... If it can't be paused, that's fine, but this kind of advise is really unhelpful to those people who need 8hs,10hrs, or even longer to complete a movie.I initially assumed that you merely wanted to be able to shut down the computer without terminating encoding (which makes sense). But now this is getting ridiculous... you do know that all modern operating systems, including Windows, let you pause any process? :rolleyes:

Do you really thing we should waste our time reimplementing something your computer already does? We surely could not possibly implement it as well as the native method, either.

(On the odd chance that you actually don't know, Ctrl-S will pause a program...)

(Maybe we should stop telling people this and instead lie and say that x264 has pause capability and that "Ctrl-S" is the key to activate it... ;) )

[jdobbs]

With all due respect, that makes just about zero sense. The only reason you would need to pause encoding is because you have a higher priority task to accomplish... hibernating the system just makes the entire PC unuseable. I know you work hard on your product, and are justifiably proud, but gimme a break... If it can't be paused, that's fine, but this kind of advise is really unhelpful to those people who need 8hs,10hrs, or even longer to complete a movie. I'm confused if this is the case. Because I already recommended using IDLE priority -- which is exactly what would be needed to give the other task the priority it needs. Then the follow-on post was "...the terrible noise of the computer in the room...".

How can you use your computer for a higher priority task and make it any quieter?

[GaPony]

Also, just to be clear, when we say there is "skipping" on the PS3 -- what does that mean? A huge jump? What appears to be a single missing frame? Audio glitch?

Thanks.

This is an interesting question... its actually more of a video freeze than a skip. My results have shown the audio continues to play correctly, but the frames are freezing. Given that the method used for Blu-Rays is essentially supposed to reuse the unchanged portions of scene, from frame to frame, the scenes with little movement seem to freeze (skip) alot, where scenes with lots of action are less prone to it... and more like blocking (large scale pixelating in certain areas of the screen) at least that was my observation.

[jdobbs]

I'd be interested, then, to see how you do with the "6" setting. I'll go back to the X264 change list and see if there was any changes to the motion estimation algorithms between the two versions. Frankly, though, I have to suspect something else... or you'd think I'd see it on my standalone also.

[Dark Shikari]

I'd be interested, then, to see how you do with the "6" setting. I'll go back to the X264 change list and see if there was any changes to the motion estimation algorithms between the two versions. Frankly, though, I have to suspect something else... or you'd think I'd see it on my standalone also.There haven't been any significant algorithmic changes, and I highly doubt any such thing could cause that problem anyways.

It sounds more like a muxing, timing, or HRD issue.

[GaPony]

(Maybe we should stop telling people this and instead lie and say that x264 has pause capability and that "Ctrl-S" is the key to activate it... ;) )

I think alot of people might just be afraid to interfere with the process in even the slightest way... that's alot of time thrown away if it decides to "burp" when it starts back up. The pause button would be more emotional than mechanical. With a Q9560 I can still do pretty much whatever else I want without problems, but I trust the way a PC works more than many. :)

[Dark Shikari]

I think alot of people might just be afraid to interfere with the process in even the slightest way... that's alot of time thrown away if it decides to "burp" when it starts back up. The pause button would be more emotional than mechanical. With a Q9560 I can still do pretty much whatever else I want without problems, but I trust the way a PC works more than many. :)I trust the OS's pause routine more than one I write myself ;)

[datman]

I have been trying to encode "The Longest Day" I have had no luck.


[20:05:45] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: THE LONGEST DAY
- Input BD size: 35.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:22.690]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:05:48] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[20:36:33] - Failed video encode, aborted
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[20:36:44] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: THE LONGEST DAY
- Input BD size: 35.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:22.690]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:36:48] - Aborted per user request
-----------------------
[20:40:25] BD Rebuilder v0.18.4 (beta)
- Source: THE LONGEST DAY
- Input BD size: 35.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:22.690]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:40:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:10:48] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[02:05:25] BD Rebuilder v0.18.4 (beta)
- Source: THE LONGEST DAY
- Input BD size: 35.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:22.690]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:05:31] - Aborted per user request
-----------------------
[05:01:01] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: TLD_US
- Input BD size: 36.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:22.691]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[05:01:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[05:33:13] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[16:23:17] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: TLD_US
- Input BD size: 36.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:22.691]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[16:23:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[17:02:45] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[18:06:18] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: TLD
- Input BD size: 32.71 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:21.691]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[18:06:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[18:35:34] - Failed video encode, aborted

I tried off the rip, off the disc, from tsremux and tsremuxer. It will not go past the first phase

[jdobbs]

I trust the OS's pause routine more than one I write myself ;) I'm not sure how to pause a process in windows... I'll have to look it up.

[MB2]

Hi, ive tried encoding a couple of movies (Pulp Fiction and The Simpsons Movie)... Im amazed at the quality and speed on my quad core pc... ;-)

I use the best setting and the films have already been run through TSremuxR 1.8.8 as movie only as they are stored on USB hard drives. They play fine on the PC.

In Pulp Fiction (original codec h264) i get a type of macro blocking / break up a couple of times in the film. Ive done this encode twice and it happens different times in the film on each encode.

The Simpsons Movie (original codec MPEG2), the frames appear to slow down when something with more detail is about to happen and the sound disapears. The scenes where Homer dumps his waste sylo and the lake goes bubbly, the scene where the mob after him and the shot goes through the crowd, and the scene when the dome explodes.

I am currenty doing There Will Be Blood (original codec VC1)...

[Dark Shikari]

In Pulp Fiction (original codec h264) i get a type of macro blocking / break up a couple of times in the film. Ive done this encode twice and it happens different times in the film on each encode.Harass jdobbs to update BD-RB again with the latest x264; this (http://git.videolan.org/?p=x264.git;a=commit;h=71c5a8dca6e5f7bf2330d028989eeeab27701151) might have fixed that.

[DarWun]

Much appreciated. Are there multiple parts (more than one video listing in the streams window) in this movie-only encode? The reason I ask is that I just remembered that in that version I also use TSMUXER to combine the sections, where in previous versions I used AVISYNTH (with the numerous CODEC instances that could cause memory crashes). Does the "skip" seem to occur at the same points as the splits (the individual M2TS files in the working directory)? I don't see it on my player -- but maybe the PS3 is sensitive in some way.
The movie that I was initially having problems with (Max Payne) has multiple parts. If my memory serves me correctly, the other movie I tried and had problems with (Ghost Town) does not. I'll have to check when I get home from work to make sure though.

By skipping I mean that the video will freeze for a fraction of a second, and then skip ahead to a point where it is in sync with the audio again. The audio plays without any glitches. I've only made it about two minutes into the movie, and the freezes happen every four or five seconds over that period.

This was posted as a work around on another forum. I haven't tried it yet, but maybe it will provide some insight to the problem.

Anyways, here's what I did that ended up fixing the problem:

- Opened up the *.AVS.264 file from the WORKFILES directory (created by BD-RB) in H264info
- checked the "Remove pulldown" checkbox
- ran H264info and created a new file, *_NoPulldown.AVS.264
- opened up TSMuxer GUI
- added the newly-created no-pulldown 264 file, and the *.AC3 file from the WORKFILES directory (created by BD-RB)
- selected the "Create Blu-ray Disc" option and ran it
- burned the resulting folders to a DVD+RW using ImgBurn with UDF 2.50

[GaPony]

RE: Setting "ENCODE_QUALITY=6"

I got a failure in the multiplexing phase.

[15:46:28] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
- Source: PRIDE_AND_GLORY
- Input BD size: 19.66 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:10:09.426]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[15:46:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:51:10] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 7,200 Kbs
- [15:51:11] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:18:55] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:19:56] Video Encode complete
- [21:19:56] Extracting/reencoding audio tracks
- [21:21:21] Multiplexing M2TS
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00004.meta
[21:24:42] - Failed to build structure, aborted

I'm re-running it again.