BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MikeyBK]

Well I finally had a failure... of sorts. Not sure exactly where this went wrong because the encoding seemed to go perfect, and the full BDMV folder launched in Arcsoft TMT perfectly, and the menu & extras all functioned like the BluRay disc itself..... however once I wrote it to disc with IMGBurn, the disc loads in my BluRay player and BluRay drive, but just sits on 00:00 and doesn't function.
The disc is recognized by both player and drive, but just doesn't function. The files output from BD-RB plays perfect. Not sure where this went wrong ???

[Sharc]

Powerdvd and sonic vc1 decoders fail on that clip too. I think you have found the only way to decode it and its only for certain people with newer nvidia cards. Guess we'll have to wait for a directshow decoder that handles VC1 interlaced for it to work within BD-RB.
I don't know how often we will see such interlaced VC-1 clips in Extras. Perhaps a motivation for jdobbs to put the option for blanking of unwanted clips higher in the priority list ;).
Perhaps a quick fix could be just to automatically skip such clips in BD-RB which cannot be decoded.

Added:
Not sure if and how x264 handles interlaced material and field order.
Does interlaced stuff have to be de-interlaced before encoding?

[jdobbs]

Not sure what you mean It's enabled even though its disabled for safety?
I would think its intended to not encode audio if its told not to which it is in this case

EDIT: Isn't the configuration read at the start of the process only like DVD-RB is? If not, when is it read during the encode process? The audio is encoded as each M2TS is encoded and I left it enabled (it is reencoded) for simplicity (whether it is used or not) as it takes only a tiny amount of time (related to the overall time). I also wanted to keep it there in case the encode oversized -- and then you could just use that audio instead of the original in the remux and avoid having to reencode the video again. But if you think its important to save that 10 minutes on a 12 hour encode, I guess I can disable it.

[jdobbs]

I don't know how often we will see such interlaced VC-1 clips in Extras. Perhaps a motivation for jdobbs to put the option for blanking of unwanted clips higher in the priority list ;).
Perhaps a quick fix could be just to automatically skip such clips in BD-RB which cannot be decoded.

Added:
Not sure if and how x264 handles interlaced material and field order.
Does interlaced stuff have to be de-interlaced before encoding? Are you positive this clip isn't some unremoved protection? I just get massive blockiness when I try to play it back. I have another clip that looks just like this -- and the ANYDVD forum says that disc isn't supported yet. I'm not doubting the conclusion that it is VC-1 interlacing that is the cause... just want to be sure.

In BD-RB I deinterlace input with AVISYNTH before reencoding to AVC with X264.

I'm inclined to agree that at least for now we may want to simply skip these clips... at least until I can find a directshow codec that will play it back...

Interesting that the WMV-9 codec will attempt to play it back (as a blocky mess) -- but the LIBAVCODEC one will simply freeze.

[Sharc]

Are you positive this clip isn't some unremoved protection? I just get massive blockiness when I try to play it back. I have another clip that looks just like this -- and the ANYDVD forum says that disc isn't supported yet. I'm not doubting the conclusion that it is VC-1 interlacing that is the cause... just want to be sure.
Well, I am not 100% sure, but I didn't find any reference in the forums. What makes a bad rip unlikely is the fact that I can properly decode it with neuron2's VC-1 decoder suite for Nvidia.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1215718#post1215718

[turbojet]

Oh if you can use the encoded audio automatically in case of oversized that's understandable, I just thought it may have been intended to not encode at all.

I'm currently encoding something that has 1080i VC1, AVC and MPEG2 extras.WMVideo handled the VC1, ffdshow handled the other 2 without any issues, except for dupe frames. So it's not every interlaced clip that has decoding issues.

For deinterlace or not, I think it would be best to analyze the stream, sorta like how autogk does it. If it identifies 1 of 5 frames can be safely removed it uses ivtc. If it doesn't find that I think its safer to keep it interlaced as opposed to deinterlacing or else there's a risk for dupe frames which looks ugly. I wish this type of thing existed in DVD-RB as well, but mostly where I see it on DVD's is in extras and they are often mixed film/ntsc or all ntsc which should stay interlaced anyhow, deinterlacing ends up ruining it.

Analyzing stream isn't very difficult manually, but I don't have a clue how it could be done through avisynth. I've also heard of 1 case where the stream was seen as 25 fps but it was really 24fps material. To account for that maybe compare 25 consecutive frames for every 200 or so frames so it doesn't take as long. If analyze stream isn't something you want to look into, could it be possible to have an ivtc option to force ivtc on the clip for both BD-RB and DVD-RB?

[turbojet]

It might be out of spec for that second where it turns into blocks, powerdvd and sonic both did the same thing at that point playing m2ts and serving it through avs, opening it up and scanning past the point it worked. Vdubmod, ripbot264, and megui wouldn't load the avs.

MikeyBK: what bluray player are you trying it on?

On a side note, ivtc was the one big feature request I had in mind right now. The others were having an ETA display for current encode or even project, displaying length of clip in H:MM:SS format on stream page, and resizing things to 720 or 480 (sub resizing being the main culprit?)

I realize bugs are much more important then adding features at the moment, I just wanted to mention them now before I forget about them.

[Sharc]

I'm currently encoding something that has 1080i VC1, AVC and MPEG2 extras.WMVideo handled the VC1, ffdshow handled the other 2 without any issues, except for dupe frames. So it's not every interlaced clip that has decoding issues.
Similar experience here (PAL country). I guess the most weird ones are those with a mixture of progressive and interlaced content. Unfortunately it seems that this kind if clips is not unusual in the Extras of VC-1 type of Blu-ray disks.

[MikeyBK]

MikeyBK: what bluray player are you trying it on?



Sony BDP-BX1.
Funny thing is that the files are on my HDD and they play virtually perfect?!?~! ... except for no audio with the menus.

I need to look over the files to see what gives. This has been my only failed attempt so far,

Just did another movie-only to BD-5 and it plays fine. The video is superb and that's one of the major factors for me.

BTW, I also feel that any bugs that may arise should be the focus for now, but since there hasn't been too many, doesn't hurt to request added features for down the line.
As for me, I think I'll be going with movie-only BD-9s, because after such a long process the full disc ended up being for naught...and as for the extras, if I want to see them, I'll bust out the original...;)

[MikeyBK]

Well upon review of my burned full disc BD-9, it appears that I loaded only the BDMV folder and didn't realize that for a full disc copy I needed to add the certificate folder as well??

Is that right guys? On the movie-only BD-9 or 5, there is nothing in the Certificates folder, so I thought it was like the DVDs' AUDIO_TS folder...:o But there are security certificates and a backup folder in the folder on the HDD ...I'm learning trial by fire guys

Kinda felt that it was I who made the error, and not a bug... so I guess you can discount this as an issue or bug...:(
sorry for the false alarm jdobbs

[turbojet]

To be safe I think the certificate folder should be included in the image, it doesn't do any harm.

Finished second BD5 and it was 4375 MB, fairly accurate so far on size for me.

jdobbs I mentioned the MPC-HC problem seeking m2ts muxed from a .264 video. No replies yet, but until they fix it could you encode to mkv files instead?
That would fix the problem, and it shouldn't affect anything else.

[jdobbs]

I'm not sure I understand. The M2TS file that is created is actually copied as-is to the BD directory for creating the BD file structure... and that's the real purpose of BD Rebuilder.

[turbojet]

Currently it goes m2ts -> x264.264 -> m2ts = MPC and MPC-HC don't like this file and go out of sync gradually, go way out of sync if you seek. Every other player I've tried handles it ok.
m2ts -> x264.mkv -> m2ts = MPC and MPC-HC and every other player I've tried is ok.

I have no idea why this is the case but it is.

[vwpassion]

Found a bug. Source bluray is mpeg2 1080i. Now bd-rb obviously tries to deinterlace the source with a FieldDeinterlace(blend=false), but when the source consists of two m2ts files (e.g. 00000.m2ts+00001.m2ts), the script has an error, as it first attemps to FieldDeinterlace and then loads the source. Should be the other way around. Here is the avs:


#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.17.11 (beta)
video0001=DirectshowSource("H:\BLURAY\SOURCES\FLASHBACKS\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=25, audio=false)
video0002=DirectshowSource("H:\BLURAY\SOURCES\FLASHBACKS\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts", fps=25, audio=false)
LoadPlugin("M:\ripping\BDRebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
video0001+video0002
ConvertToYV12()


Avisynth reports "invalid arguments to function FieldDeinterlace" since there is actually no video loaded prior to calling the FieldDeinterlace.

[Capsbackup]

@MikeyBK - Sony BDP-BX1.
Funny thing is that the files are on my HDD and they play virtually perfect?!?~! ... except for no audio with the menus.
I have this same player and the two full backup attempts, U571 and Casino Royale, NTSC, have had similar problems with menu playback. I do not play the files back on the computer though, only burn to disc with ImgBurn and played on Sony BDP-BX1. Either no audio or motion menu starts and pauses, audio continues but video remains still image.( post # 141 and # 68)
I have not seen anyone else post this problem. I have kept all the default settings, and BD-RB completes succesfully without any errors, so I don't think it is something I have done. Backing up Batman Begins now with BD-RBV01711, and will report results when finished.

[MikeyBK]

@MikeyBK -
I have this same player and the two full backup attempts, U571 and Casino Royale, NTSC, have had similar problems with menu playback. I do not play the files back on the computer though, only burn to disc with ImgBurn and played on Sony BDP-BX1. Either no audio or motion menu starts and pauses, audio continues but video remains still image.( post # 141 and # 68)
I have not seen anyone else post this problem. I have kept all the default settings, and BD-RB completes succesfully without any errors, so I don't think it is something I have done. Backing up Batman Begins now with BD-RBV01711, and will report results when finished.

Well, it was the Cerficate folder missing that was why the first burn did not function, and now the BD-9 plays when inserted into my Sony BDP-BX1.

However, like you mentioned, the menus do not have audio... and at times has a split second hestitation when navigating to each option, especially when trying the chapter selection. Very minor hesitation, but none the less it's there.

Omce again, the video itself is superb!... even on the extras, and for me that is the most important ability of BD-RB... :)

[Capsbackup]

Just tested Batman Begins, NTSC, full backup, BD-5 with BD-RBV01711 and it says completed successfully, 4.26GB. However, as with a previous test with U571, I get no sound from the movie. Upon insertion into my BDP-BX1, intro warnings play and Warner Home Video intro plays with sound. When menu is displayed, all buttons are selectable. Press play and movie starts, video quality looks pretty good considering the BD-5 size, but there is no sound during play. Cannot change audio tracks during movie playback either, as no pop-up or selectable audio tracks are displayed when pressing audio on the remote. Nor can subtitles be selected during playback, since pressing the subtitle button on the remote does not bring up the available subtitles. Same problem as I experienced with U571. Also noticed that even trying to change the audio track thru "Settings" in the main menu does not work. Radio button shows I have made a different selection, but if I go back to that settings menu for audio, the original, default audio track is still the one selected. Same is true for the subtitles. A previous back-up of Casino Royale allowed for audio and subtitles to be changed during playback of the movie. Also, whatever audio track was selected during playback, only the english was heard.( Of course I only kept one english soundtrack ). But regardless of the audio track selected, english only was always heard.( Unlike my experience with DVD, where there would be silence for the removed audio tracks if you changed audio tracks during playback). Batman Begins does have the option for English or English Dolby TrueHD, so my thought was if it was a remapping issue. But I am unable to change the selection. The audio file is in and has been muxed correctly to the m2ts file since when I play that m2ts directly with media player classic, the audio plays back fine, with amplified volume (cool). When I open the m2ts file with tsMuxeR_1.8.8(b), it shows the english AC3, 448kbps, 1 jpn sub at stream # 0, and 1 eng sub at stream # 1. Has anyone successfully backed-up this movie, Casino Royale or U571?
If this is or could be a remapping issue, maybe it is possible to have a very small AC3 file,blank or just .5 seconds of silence, to hold the audio tracks in place.( I believe what was needed to be done in DVDMaestro many days back for proper audio alignment of tracks).

[[SLiM]D12]

Not sure if it's me (likely is) but i installed this on 2 comps, one was XP and one Vista. The XP one worked fine, but the Vista one would ALWAYS crash when encoding audio, seems aften.exe wouldn't work for me. I had to download a clean copy of aften (a few bytes smaller than the one provided in this release) and i'm able to continue. Ripped my hair out trying to figure out if it was some other codec i had installed that was causing the issue, but it was aften.

Just a heads up in case somebody else runs into it.

[SLiM]

[jdobbs]

Found a bug. Source bluray is mpeg2 1080i. Now bd-rb obviously tries to deinterlace the source with a FieldDeinterlace(blend=false), but when the source consists of two m2ts files (e.g. 00000.m2ts+00001.m2ts), the script has an error, as it first attemps to FieldDeinterlace and then loads the source. Should be the other way around. Here is the avs:


#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.17.11 (beta)
video0001=DirectshowSource("H:\BLURAY\SOURCES\FLASHBACKS\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=25, audio=false)
video0002=DirectshowSource("H:\BLURAY\SOURCES\FLASHBACKS\BDMV\STREAM\00005.m2ts", fps=25, audio=false)
LoadPlugin("M:\ripping\BDRebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
video0001+video0002
ConvertToYV12()


Avisynth reports "invalid arguments to function FieldDeinterlace" since there is actually no video loaded prior to calling the FieldDeinterlace.Good catch. I'll fix it for the next release.

[jdobbs]

D12;1229244']Not sure if it's me (likely is) but i installed this on 2 comps, one was XP and one Vista. The XP one worked fine, but the Vista one would ALWAYS crash when encoding audio, seems aften.exe wouldn't work for me. I had to download a clean copy of aften (a few bytes smaller than the one provided in this release) and i'm able to continue. Ripped my hair out trying to figure out if it was some other codec i had installed that was causing the issue, but it was aften.

Just a heads up in case somebody else runs into it.

[SLiM]Could be my version is outdated... but I'm running it on Vista ok. Can you post a link to where you got your version of aften, and I'll use that one on the next release.

[[SLiM]D12]

I just got it from here:

http://download.softpedia.com/dl/eb49d864f83e5602c840ff7b0f00162a/4958088b/100065101/software/multimedia/audio/aften-0.0.8.zip

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I have done National Treasure 2, German Version. Basic functions are working, but:

- Main Menu is stuttering, and there is no sound there (thats maybe, because I only added german at the main movie)
- No English audio, does not matter, if I select it via Popup Menu via PowerDVD option, german and english commentaries are OK.
The original english Audio is TrueHD.

I now started over again, and added everywhere the german audio, maybe thats fixing a few things, especially the menu.

Bye

[jdobbs]

TrueHD should come though with no problem (but it will be converted down to DD) - but not if you haven't selected it.

[jdobbs]

D12;1229258']I just got it from here:

http://download.softpedia.com/dl/eb49d864f83e5602c840ff7b0f00162a/4958088b/100065101/software/multimedia/audio/aften-0.0.8.zipThanks. That is the most recent version according to SourceForge -- apparently I was using an older version (SVN). The next release will include v0.0.8

[nautilus7]

Get latest aften builds from here: http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/

Is BD-RB encoding a new ac3 track from a truehd one? (Did i understand this correctly?)
Are you aware that blu-ray discs with truehd have ac3 also attached to it? You can that and not encode a new one.

[jdobbs]

That's where I got the one that was reported as failing... but there's a newer one now, I'll download it.

@[SLiM]D12

Can you try the one from that site and see if it works for you? I use the Win32-bin version.

[[SLiM]D12]

I can but we'll have to wait until tomorrow when my encode is complete.

[jdobbs]

Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs
Just tried a test from the back-up of Batman Returns but I burned it to BD-RE with my laptops Matshita BD-RE UJ-225S, and now the audio and subtitles play perfectly. I can select them while the movie is playing, changing subtitle tracks and audio tracks. English audio is always heard regardless of track selected. Reburned to DVD+RW with this same burner and same results as previous post, no audio heard or subtitles displayed nor am I able to select them while the movie is playing. So I tried Verbatim DVD+RW and Sony DVD+RW media, with my Plextor PX-800A and my Samsung TSST SH-S202N DVDRW drive. Always use ImgBurn and UDF 2.5. I'm not sure what else to try. Any suggestions? I have made these same movies with MeGui, eac3to,tsMuxeR_1.8.8(b), and FixclpiGUI, with one eng. AC3 and 1 eng. sub, burned to DVD+RW media and play back is almost indistinguishable from the original. Now just to figure out burning to DVD-R or DVD+R DL with menus and extras...

[jdobbs]

Did you have the default settings selected for audio, or are you trying to keep the originals? Note: The "English is always heard" is how it is supposed to work that way for silenced tracks (not necessarily English -- but whatever was kept).

Are you using the latest firmware on the BX-1? I think it is version 010. It has some fixes related to BD-JAVA.

[Capsbackup]

Did you have the default settings selected for audio, or are you trying to keep the originals? Note: The "English is always heard" is how it is supposed to work that way for silenced tracks (not necessarily English -- but whatever was kept).
Yes default english audio track was the only audio track selected.
Are you using the latest firmware on the BX-1? I think it is version 010. It has some fixes related to BD-JAVA.
Yes, this is the most current firmware and I have updated to it.

[BZeeme]

I don't know how often we will see such interlaced VC-1 clips in Extras. Perhaps a motivation for jdobbs to put the option for blanking of unwanted clips higher in the priority list ;).
Perhaps a quick fix could be just to automatically skip such clips in BD-RB which cannot be decoded.

Added:
Not sure if and how x264 handles interlaced material and field order.
Does interlaced stuff have to be de-interlaced before encoding?

From the RipBot264 thread:

I'm having trouble using ripbot on Galapagos Bluray. The .m2ts files are level 3, 1920x1080 interlaced at 29.97 framerate. Ripbot seemingly demuxes the files ok - but when it comes to gathering information the program hangs and media player tries to open with no message - There is no log produced by ripbot after closing. I don't remember trying a level 3 file before - I have tried several versions of ripbot , starting with the latest one. All give the same results. Any help appreciated.

Reply from the RipBot264 author:

go to ffdshow -> Codecs -> VC-1 -> change libavcodec to wmv9
Unfortunately libavcodec do not support interlaced vc-1


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Test done on an old post rather than adding an off topic
post to this thread.

[jdobbs]

I did that (changed CODEC to WMV9) in the example posted -- it still didn't play right (blockiness).

[Chefkoch_ico]

Hi!

I have done National Treasure 2, German Version. Basic functions are working, but:

- Main Menu is stuttering, and there is no sound there (thats maybe, because I only added german at the main movie)
- No English audio, does not matter, if I select it via Popup Menu via PowerDVD option, german and english commentaries are OK.
The original english Audio is TrueHD.

I now started over again, and added everywhere the german audio, maybe thats fixing a few things, especially the menu.


I now set the audio options so, that all audio is encoded, now I have also english audio.

But the menu stuttering (and no Audio in menu) did not go away. I looks like this (http://rapidshare.com/files/177835748/bdrb_test_menu_stuttering.avi) (only 3 MB)

One additional thing about settings and audio:
I set in setup Audio languages to keep: English and German. However, only English is kept automatically. I need to add german audio on every Title manually.

Bye

[jdobbs]

Don't know if this might have anything to do with your problem, but which german choice are you selecting (e.g. "ger" or "deu")? It has to match the code in the source. I think "ger" is the more common one, but I'm really not sure.

[[SLiM]D12]

well after one day Wall-E was done (just have Pentium D). I had to use txmuxer to join the MOVIE ONLY m2ts together as this movie branches and BD Rebuilder does not parse the playlist files yet. So it took my input and converted all ok...although the AC3 was 448 bitrate instead of 664, which is what BR is supposed to be I think.

Result? Well it looks real good on single layer DVD, although in dark scenes it does not hold up to quality as original blu ray...fast scenes ok...so I guess just dark areas not as good on my 50" samsung plasma. This was movie only as I think full backups will really impede video quality, but that is just in my eye.

looks good!!!



I tried this one too, and yeah i've run into the same issue with the parsing of the playlist files. Is there an easy way to tell prior to starting a project if it branches like Wall-E does? Thoughts?

[jdobbs]

BD Rebuilder should parse the playlist correctly... what kind of issue are you seeing specifically?

[klas]

When it has finished the first pass BD rebuilder has been stopped and marked 100% of current progress and overal progress. I pressed abort and I resume and has begun the second phase and the correct % of both.

[[SLiM]D12]

actually jdobbs i'm not sure. I've only backed up Wall-E to this point, and when i put it into the PS3 nothing works, not menu, it sees the disc as a "Data Disc". When i use the same disc in my computer with the bd-rw it plays back fine, so i'm not sure where the issue is. I see others report this type of behaviour but no real answer at this point, off-topic to this thread but bound to come up again mind you....

[rendez2k]

D12;1229623']actually jdobbs i'm not sure. I've only backed up Wall-E to this point, and when i put it into the PS3 nothing works, not menu, it sees the disc as a "Data Disc". When i use the same disc in my computer with the bd-rw it plays back fine, so i'm not sure where the issue is. I see others report this type of behaviour but no real answer at this point, off-topic to this thread but bound to come up again mind you....

Can you test this for us and report back in that thread?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1229611#post1229611

[Capsbackup]

Well I just finished backing up The Scorpion King, NTSC, Full backup, 4.09GB and burned to DVD+RW. Not having much success here and I am not sure what the problem is. Let me clarify - the audio for the main movie just does not play when burned to a DVD+RW, as with previous attempts. The main menu only plays for about 33 seconds before pausing, and when it continues, there is only audio while the video remains a still image at the pause point. I can select the menu buttons for the disc, so all is still functioning. However, after selecting play, the movie starts and the video looks great, just no audio is heard. Also, as with other backup tests reported, I cannot select subtitles from the remote, no pop up or available subtitles are displayed. Same with audio button, no pop up to display other available tracks.
So I burn the same files to a BD-RE disc, and now the audio and subtitles play fine, with the ability to change both audio and subtitle tracks from the remote during playback of the movie.( There is only the 1 eng. AC3 audio file that plays of course, but the button on the remote brings up the options as if there were other tracks available). The menu video still does its pause at the same time interval as the DVD+RW. However, this is not a big concern since I usually press play before the menu loop anyway, but I just wanted to report my findings.
I only have the Sony BDP-BX1 to test with, so I don't know if it is player related or if it could be a BD-RB bug. I use only the default settings, and ImgBurn.
I have made numerous movie only backups, not with BD-RB, and never had a problem.BDP-BX1 plays back movie only perfectly. I hope these tests I have reported can help track down if there is a bug, or if I need to do or change something, I am open to any and all suggestions. I would like to be able to keep the menus and burn to DVD-R or DVD+R DL just like all of those succesful reports I have read!

[Vanderlow]

could your dvd+rw be faulty ? have you done a quality scan on it?

[Chefkoch_ico]

I now set the audio options so, that all audio is encoded, now I have also english audio.

But the menu stuttering (and no Audio in menu) did not go away. I looks like this (http://rapidshare.com/files/177835748/bdrb_test_menu_stuttering.avi) (only 3 MB)

One additional thing about settings and audio:
I set in setup Audio languages to keep: English and German. However, only English is kept automatically. I need to add german audio on every Title manually.


So, two things solved:
- thx jdobbs for pointing me to the additional entry for german language (deu and ger). When checked both, the preselection is working fine. Previously I only had "ger" checked.
- The menu stuttering disappeared, when I installed the latest update for PowerDVD 7.3 Ultra

The Sound in menu is still missing, but thats maybe simple a Problem, that the menu sound is not eng or ger language and so not be added.

Bye

[[SLiM]D12]

@rendez2k

I tried what was mentioned in that thread and had the same issue where the menu would not play. It would just play all previews and all else was fine, but once it got to the menu, it would cut out.

[Capsbackup]

could your dvd+rw be faulty ? have you done a quality scan on it?
I don't think I would have the success that I have had if it was the drive. Besides, tried with 3 different drives, and all DVD+RW burns experience the same behavior. Only has the BD-RE drive with BD-RE media worked. Even this same BD-RE drive burning DVD+RW media has the same results as the others.

[writersblock29]

@Capsbackup

I believe he's talking about the disk itself, which makes sense. Rewritables are subject to a lot of the same things regular write-once disks are, with the added downfall that they get burned and erased multiple times. Many set tops also give issues with rewritables that don't appear with a finalized standard (write-once) blank.

If you have Nero, go to the toolkit and choose Nero Diskspeed. There, you can run scans on your disk that can look for errors as well as bad sectors. If you don't have Nero, VSO software has a utility called VSO Inspector, which can do many of the same things.

Or, if you have another rewriteable at your disposal, you can try burning another copy to rule out at least that particular disk... but if you still have problems, where do you go from there? It might be another faulty disk... picky players... hard to say. I'd start with the error scans first.

[rendez2k]

Damn it! My latest BD5 backup is too big for DVD+R - can anything be deleted from the files to free up around 10mb? I guess the sizing isn't quite right yet.... should I try putting the default size down a bit for future encodes?

[Sharc]

If you have a DVD-R at hand it would offer about 7 MB more space compared to a DVD+R. You may try.....
My few tests (full backup) with BD-RB ended up in the range of 96 ...98%.

Added:
Btw, when you experience problems with the playback of BD-RB backups, did you select anything like "skip intros / jump directly to the main menu" for the rips?

[[SLiM]D12]

Added:
Btw, when you experience problems with the playback of BD-RB backups, did you select anything like "skip intros / jump directly to the main menu" for the rips?

I know for me and my test, i couldn't choose menu, kept saying "the operation is not allowed here..."

[jdobbs]

Damn it! My latest BD5 backup is too big for DVD+R - can anything be deleted from the files to free up around 10mb? I guess the sizing isn't quite right yet.... should I try putting the default size down a bit for future encodes?Have you changed the target size or selection of audio after the encode? I've had a couple go under, but have never had one go over.

One easy way to make it fit is to manually reencode the audio at a lower rate, or manually reencode one of the extras at a lower rate. Then just run it again, and it will say "resume?" -- when you resume it will rebuild using the new values.