BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Furiousflea]

No.

If it is smaller than your setting but is still showing in the list, that means it is a part of a multipart MPLS that has at least one section meeting your criteria. If any part of an MPLS is to be reencoded, all other M2TSs in that MPLS must also be reencoded. If you don't do that you may end up with an MPLS that has one part AVC and another VC-1, or one part containing one type of audio and another that doesn't match. The result would be something unplayable because the MPLS descriptions wouldn't match at least some part of the video/audio.

I don't think I've seen any problems reencoding small video segments in a long time... can you describe the issue?

The POTC films are good examples of this, they all have an m2ts of about 40kb that no matter what size you set the min m2ts, they will always appear in the BDRB stream selection window.

These do encode fine though...down to about 12kb!

[drmih]

I have been doing the Harry Potter series, full backup to bd-9, and on three or four you get the audio / pgs warning / error message. On one it continued and still came in under bd-9 but the others (I think 4 and 5) it overshot by over 1 Gb. If it isn't a problem that can be resolved by bd-rb (I assume it could be ts-muxer), would it be possible for the process to continue automatically but with a warning - it's so frustrating to see a warning message in the morning when it's obviously been stuck on 5 or 10% since the early hours.

**Note
I have always left my setup with allowing all of the English language tracks rather than just one. When I look at the Harry Potter extras files (there is never an issue with the main movie) bd-rb is showing some of the problem ones as having 14 or so English tracks - when you play them they are bog standard small video clips with no sign of any requirement or presence of anything but 1 audio track. I am now retrying with the setup limiting the audio to one per track to see if that sorts it.
I have just used tsmuxer to demux a typical problem m2ts file. It consisted of a 148Mb vc1 file and 14 x 2.3 Mb identical english audio tracks. Haven't got a clue what that's all about but I'll report whether it works later on.

[Capsbackup]

X-Men completed successfully, keeping the DTS-HD Master Audio and 1 AC3 448kbps Dolby Digital. The ISO is 22.0GB, (23,083,392kb). I agree this is a good default size. I have not had an oversize nor an undersize when using this setting.
I'm not sure why BD-RB could not reencode the small file (468KB) in Casino Royale, but it had no trouble with the original 582KB file in X-Men, reducing it to 234KB.

[Nkotok]

Oversized by your specified settings, or oversized using the standard BD-25 setting?

Standard BD25 setting.

[jdobbs]

I have been doing the Harry Potter series, full backup to bd-9, and on three or four you get the audio / pgs warning / error message. On one it continued and still came in under bd-9 but the others (I think 4 and 5) it overshot by over 1 Gb. If it isn't a problem that can be resolved by bd-rb (I assume it could be ts-muxer), would it be possible for the process to continue automatically but with a warning - it's so frustrating to see a warning message in the morning when it's obviously been stuck on 5 or 10% since the early hours.

**Note
I have always left my setup with allowing all of the English language tracks rather than just one. When I look at the Harry Potter extras files (there is never an issue with the main movie) bd-rb is showing some of the problem ones as having 14 or so English tracks - when you play them they are bog standard small video clips with no sign of any requirement or presence of anything but 1 audio track. I am now retrying with the setup limiting the audio to one per track to see if that sorts it.
I have just used tsmuxer to demux a typical problem m2ts file. It consisted of a 148Mb vc1 file and 14 x 2.3 Mb identical english audio tracks. Haven't got a clue what that's all about but I'll report whether it works later on. I doubt that it is a TSMUXER problem. More likely BD-RB. But I'd have to repeat it to find it... and I've done all the Harry Potter series (Region A) without issues. I just did a movie-only version of "Prisoner of Azkaban" for DVD-5 in testing yesterday.

What codec are you using for VC-1? It sounds almost like it is failing on the small encodes. My recommendation is to use WMV11.

Your example overshot by 1GB because it used CRF to encode (that was the only choice, because it could not create a file at the specified output size -- likely < 0 MB).

[jdobbs]

Oversized using the standard bd-25 setting - I also had the same which is where my question came from.

The size on the hard disc was 23.6 Gb (25,357,897,728).

If by using a slightly smaller custom size I can still get untouched audio then there's no issue for me, although I suppose it could be annoying if you have a slow pc which is taken a day or so. Any custom size over 8500MB is considered BD-25.

[tekmobile]

Ive just completed Tenatious D: The Complete Masterworks Vol 2 again for either the 5th or 6th time using the latest version this time and it does tthe exact same thing as every other encode with every other version.

It locks up my BDP-S350 about 16 Seconds into the concert on every encode but on the plus side this time it did have LPCM working.

Anymore information you need
Video: 1280x720 AVC @ 59.940 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: LPCM 2.0 @ 48 kHz / 24-bit

Ive ReRipped the disc three times with different versions of AnyDVD HD get no errors ripping or encoding.

The strange thing is though on my BDP-S350 it reports the bitrate at 0Mbps upto it locking up this is the only disc I have had problems with the orig plays perfect and the ripped folders play perfect burned to a BD-RE50 I know BD-RB can do 720p without issues but could the problem be the 59.940 framerate and if so is it a x264 or a TsMuxer prob

[drmih]

I doubt that it is a TSMUXER problem. More likely BD-RB. But I'd have to repeat it to find it... and I've done all the Harry Potter series (Region A) without issues. I just did a movie-only version of "Prisoner of Azkaban" for DVD-5 in testing yesterday.

What codec are you using for VC-1? It sounds almost like it is failing on the small encodes. My recommendation is to use WMV11.

Your example overshot by 1GB because it used CRF to encode (that was the only choice, because it could not create a file at the specified output size -- likely < 0 MB).

They are all Region B and I have done the first 3 movies okay, although it did complain about the audio / pgs on one but I continued and it was okay size wise. The problem ones are 4 and 5 (Goblet + Order) and I'm trying one again now. I am using wmv11 by default but have had a problem with the first extras file where I had to switch to the arcsoft tweak. However the warning occurs with both encoders. Having demuxed one of the m2ts file with tsmuxer and finding all of these identical audio files I guess it's only doing what it was asked. However, I still don't know why the original contains all of these identical audio streams.

[lithiumus]

Give me some info on how oversized we're talking? I use a standard parameter to estimate how large the HD audio will be when remuxed into M2TS -- I can adjust it if I know how much it is oversizing. Even better would be a size adjustment that is specific to muxing overhead for each HD type. Then I could get very accurate. I just haven't had time to run tests. I'll see what I can do this weekend.

I've got some fairly extensive static m2ts overhead info for the various HD audio types that might help you to do better estimation.

Generally speaking, TrueHD is probably the source of pain for the majority of the oversizing as the overhead on TrueHD is tremendous! Let me dig up my info.

I was also wondering if you could allow advanced x264 tweaking for those who want to change various x264 quality settings?

[jdobbs]

I've got some fairly extensive static m2ts overhead info for the various HD audio types that might help you to do better estimation.

Generally speaking, TrueHD is probably the source of pain for the majority of the oversizing as the overhead on TrueHD is tremendous! Let me dig up my info.

I was also wondering if you could allow advanced x264 tweaking for those who want to change various x264 quality settings? I'll definitely add it later. Unfortunately from my experience with DVD-RB, tweaking by "somewhat less than experts" becomes self-inflicted wounds that get reported as bugs -- and I spend a lot of time chasing ghosts...

I'd really appreciate any info you can give on the m2ts overhead of audio types.

[Tongariro]

My suggestion: advise people not to buy the Panasonic. That's the only way to force them to create a compliant player.

If someone could point out what needs to change, I would happily modify BD-RB for a workaround -- but not owning a Panasonic player, I have no way of knowing what to change.

jdobbs

I tried to set the tsmuxer to force 24 Frames While Muxing just for testing to see if it will work on my Panasonic BD-35 24P mode.

Well it did. The video was out of sync with the audio and it was a little bit jittery but i saw video. :confused:
In regular BD-RB result I can't see nothing in 24P mode(sound is OK).

I tried two movies changeling and Paycheck with the same result.

Is this information helps??

[Sharc]

I'd really appreciate any info you can give on the m2ts overhead of audio types.
Experimetally I found that 8% overhead seems to be rather safe for m2ts muxing of 1 video+2 audio (ac3 448 5.1)+2sups. But don't quote me on this ....

[turbojet]

I'd really appreciate any info you can give on the m2ts overhead of audio types.

RipBot's AC3/DTS/subs calculation (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1220277&highlight=229376#post1220277) is a start. Maybe lithiumus and others can help out with HD audio and mutli-audio.

[Category 5]

For movie only back-ups played back on PS3s, you still need to set the 'Stricter AVC-HD Compliance' in order for proper playback in PS3s....
either setting back-ups plays perfectly fine on my Sony BDP-BX1.

This is in reference to BD-RB v0.21.01

Are you talking about BD9 BD5 or BD25? I have never EVER checked this option and every BD25 movie only encode I have ever done plays perfectly on the PS3. I keep seeing mention of this but disregard it because in my experience it's never been true.

If you are talking about BD9 only then please specify that. If you mean BD25 too, why is it different for me?

[GaPony]

Are you talking about BD9 BD5 or BD25? I have never EVER checked this option and every BD25 movie only encode I have ever done plays perfectly on the PS3. I keep seeing mention of this but disregard it because in my experience it's never been true.

If you are talking about BD9 only then please specify that. If you mean BD25 too, why is it different for me?

Please keep in mind that this discussion is strictly regarding a "Movie Only" copy.

The option for "Stricter compliance with AVCHD" doesn't seem to matter much with US models of the PS3. It makes alot of difference with other brands, like Samsung. Simply for compatibility with other players, its appears, in my experience, to be a good idea to use the option when making a BD5 or BD9 copy. (BD25 copies seem not to require it)

This is the technique I use for making copies that play on my PS3, Sony BDP-S550, and Samsung BDP2500. Unfortunately, there are some players that don't work well with the "Stricter compliance..." option set, so you'll have to determine what works best for you. The bottom line is that there are vast differences between manufactures and models on how well they play copies. We each need to find our own "most common denominator" for how to get a copy that plays on our standalone players.

Furiousflea has put together a helpful list players and their level of compatibility. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

I hope this helps...

[turbojet]

Furiousflea has put together a helpful list players and their level of compatibility. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

I hope this helps...

Unfortunately since BD-RB v0.20.06 this list is inaccurate due to changes with BD-RB. Hopefully the next version will finally fix it so it will apply again but still waiting on jdobbs to confirm he's going to fix it.

More accurate to the current BD-RB versions is this list (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339). Without stricter AVCHD option is NEWBD (notice many players cant play it) with stricter AVCHD enabled look at OLDBD (notice a lot more can play it).

The only situation to use what BD-RB is using with non-strict AVCHD is VC-1 video (BD-RB doesn't output) on a panasonic player and it should theoretically work on most/all players from BD25/50 but it's not well tested. In this case Strict AVCHD should always be enabled until BD-RB is fixed.

[drmih]

I doubt that it is a TSMUXER problem. More likely BD-RB. But I'd have to repeat it to find it... and I've done all the Harry Potter series (Region A) without issues. I just did a movie-only version of "Prisoner of Azkaban" for DVD-5 in testing yesterday.

What codec are you using for VC-1? It sounds almost like it is failing on the small encodes. My recommendation is to use WMV11.

Your example overshot by 1GB because it used CRF to encode (that was the only choice, because it could not create a file at the specified output size -- likely < 0 MB).

They all work fine when you only select one audio language.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs

I tried to set the tsmuxer to force 24 Frames While Muxing just for testing to see if it will work on my Panasonic BD-35 24P mode.

Well it did. The video was out of sync with the audio and it was a little bit jittery but i saw video. :confused:
In regular BD-RB result I can't see nothing in 24P mode(sound is OK).

I tried two movies changeling and Paycheck with the same result.

Is this information helps?? So --- it's ok being out of sync and jittery, as long as we get a picture? Do you see my point? Don't you feel a little betrayed by the manufacturer of the player?

Did you try it with "Strict AVCHD" set? If not, you should.

[jdobbs]

Unfortunately since BD-RB v0.20.06 this list is inaccurate due to changes with BD-RB. Hopefully the next version will finally fix it so it will apply again but still waiting on jdobbs to confirm he's going to fix it.

More accurate to the current BD-RB versions is this list (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339). Without stricter AVCHD option is NEWBD (notice many players cant play it) with stricter AVCHD enabled look at OLDBD (notice a lot more can play it).

The only situation to use what BD-RB is using with non-strict AVCHD is VC-1 video (BD-RB doesn't output) on a panasonic player and it should theoretically work on most/all players from BD25/50 but it's not well tested. In this case Strict AVCHD should always be enabled until BD-RB is fixed. Ok I'm confused. The list just makes my head spin,

You say "...until BD-RB is fixed" -- so what does that mean? Define "fixed." If I go back to the old way some things won't work. If I stay with the new way some things won't work. So which way is "fixed"?

I decided to change the process so that TSMUXER was the decider as to how AVCHD was implemented rather than BD-RB. This "fixed" thing just ticks me off -- because the real problem isn't BD-RB, it's the lack of standardization across the players. It get's to a point at which I feel people are asking "If I stand on my head and wave my left arm wildly, my player will play AVCHD. Can you make BD-RB stand on it's head and wave its left arm wildly?"

Frankly I think some of these players should be attached to a chain and used as boat anchors because that's about all they are good for.

[Capsbackup]

Ok I'm confused. The list just makes my head spin,

You say "...until BD-RB is fixed" -- so what does that mean? Define "fixed." If I go back to the old way some things won't work. If I stay with the new way some things won't work. So which way is "fixed"?

I decided to change the process so that TSMUXER was the decider as to how AVCHD was implemented rather than BD-RB. This "fixed" thing just ticks me off -- because the real problem isn't BD-RB, it's the lack of standardization across the players. It get's to a point at which I feel people are asking "If I stand on my head and wave my left arm wildly, my player will play AVCHD. Can you make BD-RB stand on it's head and wave its left arm wildly?"

Frankly I think some of these players should be attached to a chain and used as boat anchors because that's about all they are good for.

I am of the same belief, which is why I chose the Sony brand for my player. It was the only one to play back my AVCHD from a Sony HD Camcorder burned to DVD media. I guess I was lucky in the sense that I started this way, before I ventured in to backing up blueray movies. I tested several major brand name players before my purchase of the Sony, and glad I did after reading all the results about other players in this forum.
I understand your frustration trying to make your program compatible, you have your work cut out, but you may have to draw the line somewhere. :)

[turbojet]

Ok I'm confused. The list just makes my head spin,

You say "...until BD-RB is fixed" -- so what does that mean? Define "fixed." If I go back to the old way some things won't work. If I stay with the new way some things won't work. So which way is "fixed"?

I decided to change the process so that TSMUXER was the decider as to how AVCHD was implemented rather than BD-RB. This "fixed" thing just ticks me off -- because the real problem isn't BD-RB, it's the lack of standardization across the players. It get's to a point at which I feel people are asking "If I stand on my head and wave my left arm wildly, my player will play AVCHD. Can you make BD-RB stand on it's head and wave its left arm wildly?"

Frankly I think some of these players should be attached to a chain and used as boat anchors because that's about all they are good for.

--bluray is what is breaking BD-RB. If BD-RB is changed to how I suggested in this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1286079#post1286079) BD-RB will be able to produce an output that plays on every player that is capable of playing movie only and full backups without a bunch of messing around.

There is pretty much a standard output that can be used for movie only which is --avchd untouched now that Samsung is getting their act together. But they still have to release a fixed firmware for the BD-P1600 which needs the AUXDATA directory deleted that's where - movie only with strict AVCHD enabled removes BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META and CERTIFICATE comes in. It's the AVCHD standard structure.

- full backup adds these empty directories if they don't exist: BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META. Some of these folders aren't in some original BD's mostly older from what I've seen. But PowerDVD and WinDVD need these directories, hardware players seem unaffected except the Samsung BD-P1600 which needs the AUXDATA deleted.

- mkv is always used for elementary. Fixes playback in MPC-HC, Arcsoft TMT2/TME and could fix the Panasonic 24p issue that some are reporting but aren't testing what I've suggested and has worked fine for me, their loss but you can probably fix it for them.

Just trust me on this one if you are still all confused and your head hurts. These mostly refer to DVD\9 backups. BD25\50 backups don't have nearly as many guidelines but none of these changes will affect their playback one way or the other.

[jdobbs]

Alright. For the next version I'll do this:

- movie only mode will always use --avchd
- movie only with strict AVCHD enabled will remove BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META and CERTIFICATE if they exist (Although I thought they were already removed by TSMUXER???)
- full backup will add these empty directories if they don't exist: BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META

I worry about using MKV as the elementary stream. I tried that once before and it screwed the pooch. But I'll try it for v0.21.2 (actually I'll just switch the default to MKV and make it so you have to force .264. If there are no wild objections or protests in the streets we'll leave it...

I assume I also have to add/delete the BDMV\BACKUP\BDJO+JAR...

On other question... should an empty CERTIFICATE folder be created for full backup when it doesn't exist? I wasn't planning on it, but I seem to recall someone having issues when it doesn't exist.

[tekmobile]

Alright. For the next version I'll do this:

- movie only mode will use --avchd
- movie only with strict AVCHD enabled will remove BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META and CERTIFICATE
- full backup will add these empty directories if they don't exist: BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META

I worry about using MKV as the elementary stream. I tried that once before and it screwed the pooch. But I'll try it for v0.21.2 (actually I'll just switch the default to MKV and make it so you have to force .264. If there are no wild objections or protests in the streets we'll leave it...

That sounds like good enough compromisation to me.

Any chance you saw my post a few threads back about video locking my player doing Tenacious D Masterworks Vol 2

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1291426&postcount=3008

Just wondering if using MKV as an intermediate might fix the problem

[jdobbs]

That sounds like good enough compromisation to me.

Any chance you saw my post a few threads back about video locking my player doing Tenacious D Masterworks Vol 2

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1291426&postcount=3008

Just wondering if using MKV as an intermediate might fix the problem Was the original BD 1280x720, or are you converting it?

Could you try it using MKV as the intermediate? I don't have that BD.

[tekmobile]

Was the original BD 1280x720, or are you converting it?

Could you try it using MKV as the intermediate? I don't have that BD.

No the specs I posted are from the original its 720p at 59.940 and takes ages to ReEncode due to the high framerate but yea I will give it a go and not many people do have it

[jdobbs]

No the specs I posted are from the original its 720p at 59.940 and takes ages to ReEncode due to the high framerate but yea I will give it a go and not many people do have it I just remembered it was "RATATOUILLE" that failed with the MKV. I'm trying it again with the newer TSMUXER.

[tekmobile]

I just remembered it was "RATATOUILLE" that failed with the MKV. I'm trying it again with the newer TSMUXER.

Well im just running a superfast movie only encode to dvd9 because it does the same no matter if its full disc or movie only to either DVD9 or BD25 its defenitly a problem with just that one if that is sucessfull ill then proceed to a full encode with high quality settings like normal.

It plays without issues and reports the correct bitrate through arcsoft TMT2 though just strange how my sony the one that will play anything fails and reports the bitrate at 0Mbps which kind of leads me to think its either a muxing issue or mpls/clpi

[jdobbs]

I am of the same belief, which is why I chose the Sony brand for my player. It was the only one to play back my AVCHD from a Sony HD Camcorder burned to DVD media. I guess I was lucky in the sense that I started this way, before I ventured in to backing up blueray movies. I tested several major brand name players before my purchase of the Sony, and glad I did after reading all the results about other players in this forum.
I understand your frustration trying to make your program compatible, you have your work cut out, but you may have to draw the line somewhere. :) I have a Sony also and I tell anyone who asks that they buy non-Sony at their own risk. I'm very satisfied.

[turbojet]

Alright. For the next version I'll do this:

- movie only mode will always use --avchd
- movie only with strict AVCHD enabled will remove BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META and CERTIFICATE if they exist (Although I thought they were already removed by TSMUXER???)
- full backup will add these empty directories if they don't exist: BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META

Thanks, tsmuxer doesn't remove BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META anymore because there are more that need it then can't have it.

I worry about using MKV as the elementary stream. I tried that once before and it screwed the pooch. But I'll try it for v0.21.2 (actually I'll just switch the default to MKV and make it so you have to force .264. If there are no wild objections or protests in the streets we'll leave it...

Is it because of the appending mkv of seamless branching BD's with tsmuxer I reported a while back? If so that's been fixed as far as I can tell after doing 2 successfully with mkv.

I assume I also have to add/delete the BDMV\BACKUP\BDJO+JAR...

Ya just to be safe although I'm pretty sure the BACKUP folder can be empty as far as players are concerned.

On other question... should an empty CERTIFICATE folder be created for full backup when it doesn't exist? I wasn't planning on it, but I seem to recall someone having issues when it doesn't exist.

This I'm not sure of with full backups. With movie only this folders existence doesn't seem to affect anything. Probably safer to make an empty directory if it doesn't exist as it's pretty standard on original BD's from what I've seen

Another thing that can help playability of full backups is adding what is referred to as IDEX to the index.bdmv file. As far as I know this is the key for --avchd working and --bluray not working on players. I can't explain what this is because I'm not sure what it is exactly, however if you take a full backup index.bdmv and run it though deank's goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe) it will add it. Comparing the IDEX vs NON-IDEX I think would give some ideas for an option in the future. This is what allows EU PS3's to play full backups but since it's not very well tested safer as an option at least at first.

Also I don't know if you saw this in the feature requests thread but a little bug report: when doing crf encodes --stats and --pass don't have to be in the command line. It writes stats file which may be a little drop in performance but I've never tested.

One last thing, were you able to test interlaced?

[Capsbackup]

Alright. For the next version I'll do this:

- movie only mode will always use --avchd
- movie only with strict AVCHD enabled will remove BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META and CERTIFICATE if they exist (Although I thought they were already removed by TSMUXER???)
- full backup will add these empty directories if they don't exist: BDMV\AUXDATA+BDJO+JAR+META

I worry about using MKV as the elementary stream. I tried that once before and it screwed the pooch. But I'll try it for v0.21.2 (actually I'll just switch the default to MKV and make it so you have to force .264. If there are no wild objections or protests in the streets we'll leave it...

I assume I also have to add/delete the BDMV\BACKUP\BDJO+JAR...

On other question... should an empty CERTIFICATE folder be created for full backup when it doesn't exist? I wasn't planning on it, but I seem to recall someone having issues when it doesn't exist.

Well my 2 cents is I hope these changes don't adversely affect us with players that don't have these problems now. I know many people dislike Sony, but I think they have made it right on this one! I have never had a problem making a BD-5 movie only backup, and have never had to worry if I need to check a box for compliance, or if I need to remove certain folders. If some of these players have issues, those who own them should have to worry about what to select or deselect for it to work. :devil:
Maybe the option is for BD-25 for the finicky players, since there does not seem to be issues then. BD-5 and BD-9 for those players that were built for AVCHD. I think this would simplify things greatly for jdobbs!!
OK, I think I'm over my 2 cents!! :rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

I've tried most of these formats with my Sony S301 -- and it will play all of them.

[Capsbackup]

I've tried most of these formats with my Sony S301 -- and it will play all of them.

OK, good to know. I appreciate your efforts! :thanks:

[Sharc]

Not sure if this has been discussed already. I remember that --nal-hrd had to be passed on to the x264 for blu-ray compliance which required a patched version of x264. Is this definitely no longer needed?

Edit:
Just wondering why MeGui still applies it.

[Lif3styl3]

yesterday, i've tryed to convert eagle eye with strict avcd. the result was missing dolby true hd.
Cause dolby true-hd encoding works in an earlier version i have testes it with 20.08. In this version the encoding works fine, but i'don't have chcked strict avcd there.

Seems to me there is a bug, but i don't now if its caused by the strict avcd settings or the other version in which it still work.

Edit:
I'am always do a movie only backup.

[jdobbs]

yesterday, i've tryed to convert eagle eye with strict avcd. the result was missing dolby true hd.
Cause dolby true-hd encoding works in an earlier version i have testes it with 20.08. In this version the encoding works fine, but i'don't have chcked strict avcd there.

Seems to me there is a bug, but i don't now if its caused by the strict avcd settings or the other version in which it still work.

Edit:
I'am always do a movie only backup.Could you check again and make sure you had the switches set the same in each encode? Also, I assume you are doing a BD-25 backup?

There is no connection between the AVCHD switch and selected audio.

[Capsbackup]

A back up of Batman Begins, Region A, to BD-25 with BD-RBV02101 has audio sync issues on both the Dolby True HD and Dolby Digital tracks that were kept. I have previously backed up this movie to BD-25, and did not have audio sync problems.( I can't remember which version was used before, but it was before HD audio was an option ) It appears that the audio is about 1/2 to 3/4 seconds ahead of the video, very noticeable and disturbingly unpleasant. This is a VC-1, 1080P, 23.976fps original. Has anyone else tried this movie with the latest BD-RB version? I have successfully backed up VC-1 movie only before to BD-5 without audio sync problems, but this is a first for a full backup to BD-25 that is out of sync.
I have had audio sync problems with VC-1 1080i, 29.97fps before ( Terminator 3), but there does not seem to be a fix for that type yet.

[Category 5]

I di John Mayer Where The Light Is full backup and for some reason the TrueHD audio is silent in the second half (main movie is separated into two parts). This is both on the PS3 and the BD-P1600 Samsung. I've never had a problem with full movie or movie only backups on either player until this version, but I've never tried this movie.

Oddly, the audio is reported as TrueHD, it is just silent. The first half of the split main feature plays perfectly

This is with 20.09

[jdobbs]

I just posted a new version of BD Rebuilder (v0.22.01) to the first post of this thread. Summary of changes:- All movie-only modes now use the "--AVCHD" flag in
TSMUXER. This should result in better compatibility
across more players.
- When "Stricter AVCHD Compliance for Movie-Only" is
selected, BD-RB will check for and remove AUXDATA,
BDJO, JAR, META, and CERTIFICATE directories if they
exist. This should result in better compatibility
across more players.
- When building Full Backups, BD-RB will now check for
and add BDMV, AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR, and META folders
if they don't exist. This should result in better
compatibility across more players.
- BD-RB now uses the MKV intermediate file format as
the default for rebuilds. If for some reason you
wish to force the use of .264 files as the default
(as in prior BD-RB releases) add this switch to
the config (.INI) file: "MKV_INTERMEDIATE=0"
- Modified the window handle capture routine so it
wouldn't incorrectly grab the wrong handle when
other instances of X264 are running.
- Fixed an error in which trailing short "blank video"
could cause "Error 00009 DoEncoding..."
- Fixed an condition that could cause needless warning
"Audio and/or PGS size too large." when a short
trailing blank video is included in an MPLS.
- Corrected an error in which certain error conditions
in DoEncoding() could result in a BD-RB hang.
- Fixed a condition in which an error might occur on
certain types of non-directly attached drives that
is related to timing of renamed files.
- Added a "KEEP_INTERLACING=1" hidden option. This
setting should be considered experimental. This
setting is not recommended for most encodes, but is
included for certain specific scenarios. The setting
tells BD-RB to forego deinterlacing.
- Added date stamp to error log entries.
- Updated X264 to version r1163
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[jdobbs]

A back up of Batman Begins, Region A, to BD-25 with BD-RBV02101 has audio sync issues on both the Dolby True HD and Dolby Digital tracks that were kept. I have previously backed up this movie to BD-25, and did not have audio sync problems.( I can't remember which version was used before, but it was before HD audio was an option ) It appears that the audio is about 1/2 to 3/4 seconds ahead of the video, very noticeable and disturbingly unpleasant. This is a VC-1, 1080P, 23.976fps original. Has anyone else tried this movie with the latest BD-RB version? I have successfully backed up VC-1 movie only before to BD-5 without audio sync problems, but this is a first for a full backup to BD-25 that is out of sync.
I have had audio sync problems with VC-1 1080i, 29.97fps before ( Terminator 3), but there does not seem to be a fix for that type yet. I can't think of any changes recently that would affect syncing except possibly the TSMUXER version. Have you changed any other options of ways you do your encodes? Any "tweaking"?

I'll run a test on Batman Begins and see what I find.

[drmih]

jdobbs

Can I ask whether you have made any headway with the PiP issue? If it's proving difficult to do, do you know whether it is possible to use tsmuxer on the original files to strip out the video and audio of the PiP before using bd-rb so that bd-9 audio will work on sony standalones?

[jdobbs]

I haven't spent any time on it recently. I know of no way to do it until I put in some code to do so. I guess you could strip it, but I don't think it would work when remuxed.

[jdobbs]

@tekmobile
I just remembered it was "RATATOUILLE" that failed with the MKV. I'm trying it again with the newer TSMUXER. It seems to have reassembled properly, so I've changed the latest version to use MKV as the default. We'll see if any other bug reports surface...

[tekmobile]

No the specs I posted are from the original its 720p at 59.940 and takes ages to ReEncode due to the high framerate but yea I will give it a go and not many people do have it

Just done two copies of Tenacious D that was locking up the player on encode quality 5 one using MKV and one .264

Results
.264: Same as always locked up the player and reports 0 Mbps
MKV: Sucess plays perfect and shows correct bitrate

I think by using MKV as the intermediate like you have on the latest release will be a good thing and may also fix many of the playback problems on the likes of the panasonics

[Capsbackup]

I can't think of any changes recently that would affect syncing except possibly the TSMUXER version. Have you changed any other options of ways you do your encodes? Any "tweaking"?

I'll run a test on Batman Begins and see what I find.

It does NOT appear to be BD-RB. I have now checked the .m2ts file with MPC and it does seem to be in sync.
Since my desktop does not have a BD burner, I have to use my Dell laptops. So I create an image with IMGBurn to an external hard drive to transfer the file to the laptop.
I deleted the first image I created with IMGBurn and made another image, and burned again to a different Sony BD-RE. Same results. So I am not sure what is going on!!
There is a noticeable audio delay when played back on my Sony BDP-BX1. But the audio is in sync when playing the images .m2ts corresponding to the main movie.
The only changes I have made was to update to Vista SP2 yesterday, because I was tired of the annoying Windows Update reminder poping up. However, I really doubt that this has anything to do with it. :confused:

[tekmobile]

It does NOT appear to be BD-RB. I have now checked the .m2ts file with MPC and it does seem to be in sync.
Since my desktop does not have a BD burner, I have to use my Dell laptops. So I create an image with IMGBurn to an external hard drive to transfer the file to the laptop.
I deleted the first image I created with IMGBurn and made another image, and burned again to a different Sony BD-RE. Same results. So I am not sure what is going on!!
There is a noticeable audio delay when played back on my Sony BDP-BX1. But the audio is in sync when playing the images .m2ts corresponding to the main movie.
The only changes I have made was to update to Vista SP2 yesterday, because I was tired of the annoying Windows Update reminder poping up. However, I really doubt that this has anything to do with it. :confused:

I have been running Vista SP2 beta for quite a few months now and recently upgraded to Vista SP2 RTM and have not seen any sync issues.

You say the M2TS plays fine but the burned disc is out of sync.
is it out of sync from the start or does it start ok and get further out as it plays

[Capsbackup]

I have been running Vista SP2 beta for quite a few months now and recently upgraded to Vista SP2 RTM and have not seen any sync issues.

You say the M2TS plays fine but the burned disc is out of sync.
is it out of sync from the start or does it start ok and get further out as it plays

It starts out of sync and continues throughout the movie, staying with a consistent delay. ( same amount from beginning to end)

[Sharc]

Did you try with VLC instead of MPC? I had issues with delay using MPC, but not with VLC.

[tekmobile]

Did you try with VLC instead of MPC? I had issues with delay using MPC, but not with VLC.

I think you have them mixed up

the OP says playing in MPC is in sync but his standalone is out of sync

[Sharc]

^
sorry, apparently yes.

[tekmobile]

Just wondering but has anyone tried using MKV as the intermediate to see if this does anything about the 24p problem the panasonics have

[mhammer]

Just wondering but has anyone tried using MKV as the intermediate to see if this does anything about the 24p problem the panasonics have

Tried it, but doesn´t work. Same 24p problem as before.

[Nkotok]

What is the difference between AVCHD and Blu-ray output options? I see AVCHD also has BDMV folder juts like Blu-ray.
Does it matter which one I burn on a BD25 for a backup of blu-ray movie only to play on a stand alone?

[jdobbs]

If you do a movie-only burn it will be in AVCHD format -- no matter what you select. If you are doing a full-backup, it will be in blu-ray format -- no matter what you select.

The only option is "Stricter AVCHD for Movie-Only" -- which will clear certain directories for compatibility with inconsistent implementations in standalone players.

The BDMV folder is present on both. AVCHD is a subset of blu-ray (for example, it doesn't support java for menus) that was designed mainly for video cameras. But since it is a high-def standard, it is a good way to fit HD video on smaller (DVD-5/DVD-9) discs.

[Nkotok]

If you do a movie-only burn it will be in AVCHD format -- no matter what you select. If you are doing a full-backup, it will be in blu-ray format -- no matter what you select.

The only option is " " -- which will clear certain directories for compatibility with inconsistent implementations in standalone players.

The BDMV folder is present on both. AVCHD is a subset of blu-ray (for example, it doesn't support java for menus) that was designed mainly for video cameras. But since it is a high-def standard, it is a good way to fit HD video on smaller (DVD-5/DVD-9) discs.

S I am planning to do movie only backups and will check "Stricter AVCHD for Movie-Only" to try to play the result in 24P on Panny.
So with AVCHD output and certain directories cleared, will I still have the same blu-ray and pq and sq will not suffer, right?


Basically, what I would like to know is if the latest switch from blu-ray to AVCHD output for movie only will have any impact on the playability the reencode burnt of a BD25?

[GaPony]

There shouldn't be any degradation in PQ or SQ, but playability is much more about the standalone player than the output from BD-Rebuilder. All you can do is test it and see what needs to be done for compatibility with your player. I wish there was some standard among players, like with copying DVDs, but aparently thats not an important thing with Blu-Ray manufactures.

[Nkotok]

There shouldn't be any degradation in PQ or SQ, but playability is much more about the standalone player than the output from BD-Rebuilder. All you can do is test it and see what needs to be done for compatibility with your player. I wish there was some standard among players, like with copying DVDs, but aparently thats not an important thing with Blu-Ray manufactures.


Well, with such a quick change from blu-ray to mandatory AVCHD for movie only encodes in BDRB, I would think there is no difference between the two or a very minimal one that has no impact on playability of BD25s on stand alone players. Otherwise why would not the author leave both options available? Why not give a choice (since blu-ray output option was there already) but try to give one and take one away approach?

[turbojet]

@tekmobile
It seems to have reassembled properly, so I've changed the latest version to use MKV as the default. We'll see if any other bug reports surface...

Thanks for the new version, I'm currently testing out the changes.

Just done two copies of Tenacious D that was locking up the player on encode quality 5 one using MKV and one .264

Results
.264: Same as always locked up the player and reports 0 Mbps
MKV: Sucess plays perfect and shows correct bitrate

I think by using MKV as the intermediate like you have on the latest release will be a good thing and may also fix many of the playback problems on the likes of the panasonics

That's good to hear mkv intermediate fixed something unexpected.

It starts out of sync and continues throughout the movie, staying with a consistent delay. ( same amount from beginning to end)

If you load the m2ts in tsmuxer do the audio streams have a delay?

Tried it, but doesn´t work. Same 24p problem as before.

Can you try burning the 6 isos in this pack (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yiowy2yukjw) and report if any work with 24p enabled and if so which ones?

Well, with such a quick change from blu-ray to mandatory AVCHD for movie only encodes in BDRB, I would think there is no difference between the two or a very minimal one that has no impact on playability of BD25s on stand alone players. Otherwise why would not the author leave both options available? Why not give a choice (since blu-ray output option was there already) but try to give one and take one away approach?

On BD25 playback there's only been one difference found between --bluray and --avchd modes of TSmuxer. That is VC-1 on panasonic players need --bluray or they won't play, as BD-RB doesn't output VC-1 it's a non-issue. Other than that --avchd has been much more tested, it's what RipBot264 has always output and BD-RB has output in all versions except v0.20.06 - v0.21.01. The only change that has any significance in playability between the 2 outputs is in the index.bdmv file.

Here's a summary of differences in playback of using strict AVCHD or not from testing with latest firmware/software versions.

no strict AVCHD: Playback in all standalones except Samsung BD-P1600. Playback in PowerDVD from ISO/DVD/BD. WinDVD is only from DVD/BD. Playback in TMT3 from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD.

strict AVCHD: Playback in all standalones except Denon's and Phillips. Good possibility of some standalones only playing AC3/LPCM though no reports yet. Playback in PowerDVD from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD but only plays AC3/LPCM audio. Playback with winDVD from DVD/BD except AC3/LPCM only. Playback in TMT3 from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD with all audio supported.

full backup: BD playback in all standalones except Sharp. DVD playback in Sony, some Samsung, some Denon. PowerDVD playback from ISO/DVD/BD. TMT3/WinDVD playback from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD.

Hopefully this is enough info to draw your conclusion.

[Nkotok]

Here's a summary of differences in playback of using strict AVCHD or not from testing with latest firmware/software versions.

no strict AVCHD: Playback in all standalones except Samsung BD-P1600. Playback in PowerDVD from ISO/DVD/BD. WinDVD is only from DVD/BD. Playback in TMT3 from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD.

strict AVCHD: Playback in all standalones except Denon's and Phillips. Playback in PowerDVD from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD but only plays AC3/LPCM audio. Playback with winDVD from DVD/BD except AC3/LPCM only. Playback in TMT3 from HDD/ISO/DVD/BD with all audio supported.

Hopefully this is enough info to draw your conclusion.

Thanks. How about 24P playback? Did you mean all this with 24P enabled?

[turbojet]

Thanks. How about 24P playback? Did you mean all this with 24P enabled?

No problem. Nope 24p seems to work on most players but not on others. I have an idea of how to fix it but need people who have players that don't play video with 24p to test that pack I linked to in previous post.

[Nkotok]

No problem. Nope 24p seems to work on most players but not on others. I have an idea of how to fix it but need people who have players that don't play video with 24p to test that pack I linked to in previous post.


I see. That would be good.

I still have not tried to use BD Rb with strict AVCHD checked and play the result on my Pan. BD30 and see if it will work in 24P.
Until now I never checked strict AVCHD and was able to play only with 24p disabled.

[turbojet]

I see. That would be good.

I still have not tried to use BD Rb with strict AVCHD checked and play the result on my Pan. BD30 and see if it will work in 24P.
Until now I never checked strict AVCHD and was able to play only with 24p disabled.

Strange, I've never had an issue playing with 24p enabled on a USA Panasonic BD30 from DVD with mkv intermediate in BD-RB and RipBot264 output. Anyhow that pack I referred to I just updated if you want to try it out.

Can you try burning the 6 isos in this pack (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yiowy2yukjw) and report if any work with 24p enabled and if so which ones?

[Nkotok]

Strange, I've never had an issue playing with 24p enabled on a USA Panasonic BD30 from DVD with mkv intermediate in BD-RB and RipBot264 output.

That is strange. Could it be because your was a DVD-r (not BD-r), because it was in mkv, or maybe because of FW of the player? Really would be nice to find why.

(btw I tried Ripbot a couple of times and it played on my Panny in 24p no problem (Ripbot took much longer though than BD-RB, like 30 hours for one movie on 2-pass for a BD25).

[turbojet]

That is strange. Could it be because your was a DVD-r (not BD-r), because it was in mkv, or maybe because of FW of the player? Really would be nice to find why.

(btw I tried Ripbot a couple of times and it played on my Panny in 24p no problem (Ripbot took much longer though than BD-RB, like 30 hours for one movie on 2-pass for a BD25).

I have no idea, results from that pack might shine some light on the matter.

[drmih]

I haven't spent any time on it recently. I know of no way to do it until I put in some code to do so. I guess you could strip it, but I don't think it would work when remuxed.

I took a Universal title with PiP (Wanted) I had previously had problems with (audio wouldn't play on a Sony standalone) and used TSMuxer to take the main movie m2ts file and recreate it with the DTS-HD XLL converted to DTS. I then replaced the file and encoded using bd-rb but selected to keep the dts. I have just copied the bd-9 file structure to a re-writable bd-re and it plays on the sony with audio present.

I'm now burning it to a bd-9 to see if it's fine. If it is okay, the question is whether it was the process of first downgrading the DTS-HD XLL to DTS, or as simple as using the don't convert DTS to AC3 in bd-rb. However I wonder what bd-rb does if it sees DTS-HD XLL and the don't convert DTS to AC3 flag?

**TOTAL RED HERRING - the file structure which plays with sound on a bd-25 still has the audio missing when burnt to a bd-9 - anyone figure out the logic there?

[mhammer]

Can you try burning the 6 isos in this pack and report if any work with 24p enabled and if so which ones?

Treid a few:

mkv_aud-nalhrd, 264, mkv and 264_aud-nalhrd.

They work all with 24p, but i think we should try this with audio muxed...

[turbojet]

Treid a few:

mkv_aud-nalhrd, 264, mkv and 264_aud-nalhrd.

They work all with 24p, but i think we should try this with audio muxed...

Thanks for testing, hopefully audio will change the results. I've uploaded a pack with dts audio (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?roq0gmmktre).

A little clarification on the isos:
mkv = BD-RB default output in current version
264 = BD-RB default output in older versions
264_aud_nalhrd = RipBot264 default output

The rest are variations that aren't used in any programs as far as I know.

[mhammer]

Thanks for testing, hopefully audio will change the results. I've uploaded a pack with dts audio (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?roq0gmmktre).

A little clarification on the isos:
mkv = BD-RB default output in current version
264 = BD-RB default output in older versions
264_aud_nalhrd = RipBot264 default output

The rest are variations that aren't used in any programs as far as I know.

I only tried the 264 file, but this works also. Should we use a real short movie clip?

Btw, i tried Ripbot with the exact Bd-rb h264 settings (Custom Profile in Ripbot) and this works too.

Very strange...

[tekmobile]

Btw, i tried Ripbot with the exact Bd-rb h264 settings (Custom Profile in Ripbot) and this works too.

Very strange...

Don't RipBot use a custom version of x264 maybe its that.

Not sure if it would work or has been tried but what about if you copied and used the version of x264 from RipBot to the BD-RB tools folder and tried that.

[Capsbackup]

@turbojet;
If you load the m2ts in tsmuxer do the audio streams have a delay?

This was a good find; yes TSMuxer does show a 83ms delay for all audio tracks. I do not see where BD-RB takes this delay into account. See MUX_00000.meta below:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4352.AC3", lang=eng
A_AC3, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4353.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4608.sup", fps=23.976, lang=jpn
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4609.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4610.sup", fps=23.976, lang=fra

Could this be something for jdobbs to look into? 83ms is not much of a delay, and it does appear to be more than that on play back.
However, it does appear that the reencoded BD-RB file has audio sync, as does the original, when played back with MPC. Only after burning to Sony BD-RE and played back on my Sony BDP-BX1 is there a noticeable audio delay.
I backed up The Dark Knight last night with the new BD-RBV02201, and burned it to a BD-RE with the same burner and the audio is perfect. So, I don't know what my issue is.

[turbojet]

I only tried the 264 file, but this works also. Should we use a real short movie clip?

Btw, i tried Ripbot with the exact Bd-rb h264 settings (Custom Profile in Ripbot) and this works too.

Very strange...

Interesting. The size of the stream must have something to do with it.

mhammer: could you perform a little test by downloading a patched x264 build and use this command like this on a main movie avs from BD-RB workfiles x264.exe --crf 30 --ref 1 --me dia --subme 1 --partitions none --threads auto --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "<output.mkv>" "<input>" --nal-hrd
<input> = avs path\file
<output.mkv> = path to output mkv

Then grab tsmuxer 1.10.6, drag the new mkv you created plus dts or ac3 file from BD-RB workfiles into tsmuxergui. Tick avchd output, choose output path and burn the output to a DVD and try?

It may sound like a lot but it's fairly simple, just a lot of words to describe it. The x264 encode won't look very good but it will finish fairly quick.

Don't RipBot use a custom version of x264 maybe its that.

Not sure if it would work or has been tried but what about if you copied and used the version of x264 from RipBot to the BD-RB tools folder and tried that.

Yes. RipBot264 uses patched x264 builds (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130364) with trahald's x264_hrd_pulldown.13_interlace.diff, it uses these command line parameters from the patch when avchd compatibilty is checked: --aud --nalhrd and outputs a .264 file. Maybe jdobbs could add an experimental option that adds --aud --nal-hrd and outputs .264 with a patched x264 build for testing on players that are having issues with 24p. If it works well and no other players are affected maybe this should be the default or only type of output.

After some testing --aud has no effect with mkv output. it changes .264 output
--nal-hrd affects mkv\264 files differently then tsmuxer's insert nal-hrd packets

@turbojet;


This was a good find; yes TSMuxer does show a 83ms delay for all audio tracks. I do not see where BD-RB takes this delay into account. See MUX_00000.meta below:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264", fps=23.976, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4352.AC3", lang=eng
A_AC3, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4353.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4608.sup", fps=23.976, lang=jpn
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4609.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BATMAN_BEGINS BDRB\WORKFILES\00000.track_4610.sup", fps=23.976, lang=fra

Could this be something for jdobbs to look into? 83ms is not much of a delay, and it does appear to be more than that on play back.
However, it does appear that the reencoded BD-RB file has audio sync, as does the original, when played back with MPC. Only after burning to Sony BD-RE and played back on my Sony BDP-BX1 is there a noticeable audio delay.
I backed up The Dark Knight last night with the new BD-RBV02201, and burned it to a BD-RE with the same burner and the audio is perfect. So, I don't know what my issue is.

I'm not sure if the delay is stored within the stream or in the clpi file but it could be a place for jdobbs to start looking.

[GaPony]

I took a Universal title with PiP (Wanted) I had previously had problems with (audio wouldn't play on a Sony standalone) and used TSMuxer to take the main movie m2ts file and recreate it with the DTS-HD XLL converted to DTS. I then replaced the file and encoded using bd-rb but selected to keep the dts. I have just copied the bd-9 file structure to a re-writable bd-re and it plays on the sony with audio present.

I'm now burning it to a bd-9 to see if it's fine. If it is okay, the question is whether it was the process of first downgrading the DTS-HD XLL to DTS, or as simple as using the don't convert DTS to AC3 in bd-rb. However I wonder what bd-rb does if it sees DTS-HD XLL and the don't convert DTS to AC3 flag?

**TOTAL RED HERRING - the file structure which plays with sound on a bd-25 still has the audio missing when burnt to a bd-9 - anyone figure out the logic there?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I was under the impression you couldn't keep the DTS-HD with a BD9 copy.

[drmih]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I was under the impression you couldn't keep the DTS-HD with a BD9 copy.

You can't but one possible issue was in converting DTS-HD XLL to AC3 something went wrong so I was trying to turn it into normal DTS. However, it turns out to be something as simple as the Sony handles the same structure differently depending on whether it's on a bd-9 or bd-re.

[GaPony]

You can't but one possible issue was in converting DTS-HD XLL to AC3 something went wrong so I was trying to turn it into normal DTS. However, it turns out to be something as simple as the Sony handles the same structure differently depending on whether it's on a bd-9 or bd-re.

I've done tons of these movies... In fact I just did "Wanted" (Movie Only to BD-9) and the DTS-HD audio converted to AC3 without any problem and plays beautifully on my PS3 and Sony BDP-S550 player.

I apologize if I'm missing the point you're making.

[drmih]

Your missing the fact that no Full Backups to bd-9 of Universal titles with PiP allow the audio to be selected on Sonys.

Doing Movie only makes the PiP issue irrelevant.

[turbojet]

Your missing the fact that no Full Backups to bd-9 of Universal titles with PiP allow the audio to be selected on Sonys.

Doing Movie only makes the PiP issue irrelevant.

If you use goBD or AVCHD patcher on the index.bdmv does it have any effect?

[drmih]

I haven't tried as I wasn't aware that they were for full backups. These discs do play fine on a pc, and it would appear it is nothing to do with the structure but whether the sony sees a bd-9 or bd-25 - taking this into account would goBD or AVCHD patcher make any difference?

I don't think that I have got any Universal titles to work as full backup to bd-9 yet on a sony.

[turbojet]

It might, I've seen stranger things happen with BD5/9 playback. IIWY I'd try it with DVD5 RW though. Try goBD first and if it doesn't help try AVCHD patcher they do a little different things.

[GaPony]

Your missing the fact that no Full Backups to bd-9 of Universal titles with PiP allow the audio to be selected on Sonys.

Doing Movie only makes the PiP issue irrelevant.

That was what I was trying to get to.

Its just a sad fact that most standalone players don't recognize Blu-Ray on DVD. The Sony's are better than most, but still not 100% compatible with Full Movies onto DVD (BD5 or BD9). AVCHD for a movie only copy is seen differently, and poses very little problem for a growing list of players.

The good news is that BD-R 25 media can be found for as little as $3.20 per disc (25 pack RiData @ newegg).

[mhammer]

Interesting. The size of the stream must have something to do with it.

mhammer: could you perform a little test by downloading a patched x264 build and use this command like this on a main movie avs from BD-RB workfiles x264.exe --crf 30 --ref 1 --me dia --subme 1 --partitions none --threads auto --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "<output.mkv>" "<input>" --nal-hrd
<input> = avs path\file
<output.mkv> = path to output mkv

Then grab tsmuxer 1.10.6, drag the new mkv you created plus dts or ac3 file from BD-RB workfiles into tsmuxergui. Tick avchd output, choose output path and burn the output to a DVD and try?

It may sound like a lot but it's fairly simple, just a lot of words to describe it. The x264 encode won't look very good but it will finish fairly quick.




Did the test, but doesn´t work. Same probs with 24p as with BD-RB output.

Did my testings with a bd-rw 25 and tsmuxer avc and blu-ray output.
I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing, maybe this is were we get probs.

[jdobbs]

Did the test, but doesn´t work. Same probs with 24p as with BD-RB output.

Did my testings with a bd-rw 25 and tsmuxer avc and blu-ray output.
I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing, maybe this is were we get probs. It certainly shouldn't, since the source of the AVS file should be invisible to the encoder... but stranger things have happened I guess.

Can you explain exactly what the "24p problem" really is? No playback at all?

[mhammer]

It certainly shouldn't, since the source of the AVS file should be invisible to the encoder... but stranger things have happened I guess.

Can you explain exactly what the "24p problem" really is? No playback at all?

The 24p problem is that rips done with BD-RB will not work in 24p mode on Panasonic players while Ripbot encodes work (even with same x264 settings as BD-RB).

Turbojet and i did some testing to find a working solution.

[turbojet]

Did the test, but doesn´t work. Same probs with 24p as with BD-RB output.

Did my testings with a bd-rw 25 and tsmuxer avc and blu-ray output.
I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing, maybe this is were we get probs.

A few things that could be tried if you haven't already, output to 264 and add --aud so:

x264.exe --crf 30 --ref 1 --me dia --subme 1 --partitions none --threads auto --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "<output.264>" "<input>" --nal-hrd

another thing you could try is using the avs as video input, demuxed audio as audio input in ripbot264 and see if the stream works with 24p. Another thing that RipBot264 uses that BD-RB doesn't is long GOP's aka --keyint 250 --min keyint 25 but that's on the BD-RB request list.

Jdobbs: all the changes in the changelog look good and even the undocumented sub fix except with strict AVCHD output can it delete the CERTIFICATE folder in the next version?

Also out of curiosity do you have any plans on what you plan to tackle next? Two big topics that seem to affect every encode are sizing and encoder related things (keep movie but encode extras, long gop, 1 pass crf using quality settings set, display x264 eta, x64 x264 (lower priority?))

[jdobbs]

However I wonder what bd-rb does if it sees DTS-HD XLL and the don't convert DTS to AC3 flag? It uses the down-to-dts flag in TSMUXER and uses the output directly in the remux.

[jdobbs]

Jdobbs: all the changes in the changelog look good and even the undocumented sub fix except with strict AVCHD output can it delete the CERTIFICATE folder in the next version? Yes. In fact I had added the code to remove it, and then after the fact realized that I was looking for "\BDMV\CERTIFICATE" instead of "\CERTIFICATE'... duh. Not going to find a lot of those. I've fixed it.

Also out of curiosity do you have any plans on what you plan to tackle next? Two big topics that seem to affect every encode are sizing and encoder related things (keep movie but encode extras, long gop, 1 pass crf using quality settings set, display x264 eta, x64 x264 (lower priority?)) I'll probably do a little work on the sizing this weekend. I'm going to create a group of different kinds of audio with varying rates and see what individual overhead percentages I get. Currently I've been using a single adjustment factor for the entire stream, and I think that's the root of the inaccuracy. It seems to be amplified by the inclusion of HD audio now.

Don't know what you mean by "long gop" -- BD has a limited frequency of key frames, even though my Sony seems to not care. One pass CRF with prediction is actually already written, but it was so inaccurate I disabled it. I'll get back to that soon enough.

[turbojet]

Yes. In fact I had added the code to remove it, and then after the fact realized that I was looking for "\BDMV\CERTIFICATE" instead of "\CERTIFICATE'... duh. Not going to find a lot of those. I've fixed it.

I'm not sure it will have any effect on anything but probably safer to remove it.

I'll probably do a little work on the sizing this weekend. I'm going to create a group of different kinds of audio with varying rates and see what individual overhead percentages I get. Currently I've been using a single adjustment factor for the entire stream, and I think that's the root of the inaccuracy. It seems to be amplified by the inclusion of HD audio now.

Oh ok did you get RipBot264's calculation and can make sense of it? If so that's have the job done, although mutliple audio streams and HD audio which I've heard is inconsistent because of vbr.

Don't know what you mean by "long gop" -- BD has a limited frequency of key frames, even though my Sony seems to not care. One pass CRF with prediction is actually already written, but it was so inaccurate I disabled it. I'll get back to that soon enough.

Long GOP meaning 10 second max distance between keyframes as opposed to the current 1 second. This can really improve the effeciency without affecting the playability, at least none have been reported. However it could skew chapter points quite a bit but there is a solution for that too, x264's --qp-file. I posted 2 clips here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=147481) that are very affected by the short gop's, while it's kind of uncommon it goes to show how detremental the short GOP's can be.

1 pass crf o the whole movie? I forgot about that one but I remember seeing it discussed somewhere but that sounds good as well. But what I meant by the 1 pass CRF using the quality settings was for extras. For example there would be under mode menu a '1 pass encode for extras' that uses QUICK_CRF set and the quality options set, then a sub option be 'quicker encode' to use what quicker encodes does now. Also with crf there is no need for the current --pass --stats x264 calls, it writes a stats that isn't used which may hurt performance a little bit.

[jdobbs]

Long GOP meaning 10 second max distance between keyframes as opposed to the current 1 second. This can really improve the effeciency without affecting the playability, at least none have been reported. If will also violate the BD standard. Can't do it.

Also with crf there is no need for the current --pass --stats x264 calls, it writes a stats that isn't used which may hurt performance a little bit.The pass/stats info is there for a reason. The performance impact is virtually nonexistent... but if you keep the stats, you can use them to do a second pass and hit the mark exactly when you experience an oversize (common in CRF encodes).

[turbojet]

It's no more of a violation then 30p and that's been in since day one, but it's ok, nevermind.

[jdobbs]

It's no more of a violation then 30p and that's been in since day one, but it's ok, nevermind. A standard is a standard. Just because it works for one person doesn't mean it won't fail for 100 others. Sorry, but I'm married to that one.

[turbojet]

What if it's the thing that allows RipBot264 encodes to play with 24p enabled?

It is a good possibility but need to wait on tests. Long gop's have been well tested with RipBot264 over the past year or so without any issues, so it's nothing new. Why not an ini only setting for us power users?

[jdobbs]

What if it's the thing that allows RipBot264 encodes to play with 24p enabled?

It is a good possibility but need to wait on tests. Long gop's have been well tested with RipBot264 over the past year or so without any issues, so it's nothing new. Why not an ini only setting for us power users? Then that's an issue for Panasonic to correct. Which in truth is probably something that needs to be done either way.

Long GOPs aren't Blu-Ray -- they are something else, no matter how well tested they are. You certainly won't find them on commercial BDs (if so, I'd be surprised), and a decent authoring package shouldn't accept them. I think its a bad idea.

[turbojet]

Than that's an issue for Panasonic to correct. Which in truth is probably a fact either way.

True but it's not something we can control.

Long GOPs aren't Blu-Ray -- they are something else, no matter how well tested they are. You certainly won't find them on commercial BDs, and a decent authoring package won't accept them. Bad idea.

True again but nor will you find 30p or non-sliced H.264 on retail BD and programs like scenarist don't allow either.

30p I think is only detrimental to the video stream but people will have their own opinions on that one. As some don't notice the non-fluid motion achieved by deinterlacing.

Sliced H.264 x264 doesn't support so nothing can be done about that, I'm not sure what it is but I've read it can hurt efficiency.

Long GOP can do nothing but benefit the video stream as long as the encoder makes the right decision every time, which x264 seems to do. In some cases in a huge way, those 2 clips I linked to are good examples of this.

While I'd like to see an AVCHD/BD standard that has to be followed so we know what has to be done, it doesn't exist. In it's current state almost everything BD-RB does breaks the standard. A few examples: You shouldn't be able to play anything but AC3/LPCM AVCHD from DVD, full backups in their current state should only play from BD, in order to play from DVD they'd need their menu commands changed to be like that of AVCHD menus which will lose some advanced functionality, which may be a possibility some day, who knows.

[drmih]

It might, I've seen stranger things happen with BD5/9 playback. IIWY I'd try it with DVD5 RW though. Try goBD first and if it doesn't help try AVCHD patcher they do a little different things.

OK neither of the options made any difference, so whatever is upsetting the Sony's on full backups on Universal titles burnt to a bd-9 is still unknown.

Of the discs I have done, when played on a ps3 the two which were patched tried to play and then errored. The bd-9 one appeared as a data disc but when the main movie stream was played it did have the audio okay, so that could handle the audio if not the menus.

[turbojet]

OK neither of the options made any difference, so whatever is upsetting the Sony's on full backups on Universal titles burnt to a bd-9 is still unknown.

Of the discs I have done, when played on a ps3 the two which were patched tried to play and then errored. The bd-9 one appeared as a data disc but when the main movie stream was played it did have the audio okay, so that could handle the audio if not the menus.

Can you upload the bdmv files, CLIPINF and PLAYLIST directories?

Also are both video streams being kept in the output?

[drmih]

Can you upload the bdmv files, CLIPINF and PLAYLIST directories?

Also are both video streams being kept in the output?

These are from the first attempt at a bd-9 full disc with ac3 sound.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/zxomlj

This plays fine on a pc and the movie stream 0220.m2ts is okay on a ps3. On a Sony 550 the audio isn't available on the movie and the display information shows no audio and the audio button has no effect. If the files are burnt to a bd-25 then that plays fine.

[turbojet]

Can you try this (http://www.sendspace.com/file/avcva0)

[drmih]

Thanks - it'll be tomorrow now as I'm off to bed!

[Capsbackup]

I have no trouble playing BD-RB movie only backups burned to BD-5 with 24p on my Sony BDP-BX1. So I have to agree with jdobbs that this does seem to be an issue that Panasonic needs to correct. At some point, a standard has to be accepted. I don't believe jdobbs should have to spend so much time trying to make adjustments for a mfg.'s player to allow play back of an AVCHD movie only to DVD media. I commend him for trying! If BD-25 works for these players, then that may be the solution. If the goal is to be able to make backups to BD-5 or BD-9, then a more compliant player should be mandatory. Buyer be ware! Test your discs before making a purchase. :devil:
We all know you have to meet certain cpu, video card, etc.. requirements just to play back Blueray discs on a computer, so we have to be as prudent with our standalones as well! :)
If RipBot works, why not just use that program? :p

[turbojet]

mhammer: Could you try muxing an audio track with these 2 video streams (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gjzkgyzujjn)?

It's the last things I can think of as differences between RipBot264 and BD-RB output.

[drmih]

Can you try this (http://www.sendspace.com/file/avcva0)

That just hangs the player when you try and select the main movie.

[wiggle]

Yesterday I was encoding Ghost Town. I stripped all other languages other than English to maintain the best bitrate. Original size: 27,4 GB.
After the encode was down I checked the new size, and it was 21,4 GB. Quite a waste of space, I ended up re-adding the stripped languages, as I had space left anyway.
I checked the log, and noticed the target rate was exactly 25.000. I browsed through some x264 settings, and came up that this probably is because of a max_rate setting, set to 25000?
I'ld really like it to be possible to change this setting, whether it is in the program or in the config file. Thanks in advance.

[Furiousflea]

Yesterday I was encoding Ghost Town. I stripped all other languages other than English to maintain the best bitrate. Original size: 27,4 GB.
After the encode was down I checked the new size, and it was 21,4 GB. Quite a waste of space, I ended up re-adding the stripped languages, as I had space left anyway.
I checked the log, and noticed the target rate was exactly 25.000. I browsed through some x264 settings, and came up that this probably is because of a max_rate setting, set to 25000?
I'ld really like it to be possible to change this setting, whether it is in the program or in the config file. Thanks in advance.

jdobbs has stated that 25mbps is a more than high enough maxiumum bitrate to use for any video source.

[mhammer]

mhammer: Could you try muxing an audio track with these 2 video streams (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?gjzkgyzujjn)?

It's the last things I can think of as differences between RipBot264 and BD-RB output.

Both working, but these testpartern work all. This should only be done with real movieclips.
I´am very busy at the moment because of work, but if i find some time on weekend, i will try encoding with BD-RB settings from mkv.

As i wrote before:
"I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing"

I tried Bd-Rb 264-Settings in Ripbot, also without "Nalhrd and aud" - works fine.

[turbojet]

That just hangs the player when you try and select the main movie.

Okay I'll take a look at them again over the next few days and see if I can find anything that's kind of obvious.

Both working, but these testpartern work all. This should only be done with real movieclips.
I´am very busy at the moment because of work, but if i find some time on weekend, i will try encoding with BD-RB settings from mkv.

As i wrote before:
"I noticed that Ripbot does a complete demux and creates a mkv with the videostream. Bd-RB use the original m2ts stream for video-encodeing"

I tried Bd-Rb 264-Settings in Ripbot, also without "Nalhrd and aud" - works fine.

Nice you found out the cause/fix. Very strange that demuxing to mkv is the fix. I was thinking all along it was something to do with the encoded stream instead of the source it encodes from.

[mhammer]

Nice you found out the cause/fix. Very strange that demuxing to mkv is the fix. I was thinking all along it was something to do with the encoded stream instead of the source it encodes from.

I´am not sure if that is the fix, but will try it on weekend.

[Wolfe999]

In my last 2 reencodes (using v0.22.01), one of them just 5 minutes ago, the process stopped with CURRENT PROGRESS at 100% and OVERALL PROGRESS at 50% at 1st pass. I had to click abort and then reclick backup for the process to restart where it has left it. Haven't changed anything from my settings: "Normal Priority - High Quality - Movie Only and depending from the movie, BD5 or BD9" As soon as I finish the movie I'm doing now, I'll go back to v0.21.01 and see if the problem reproduces itself, when it never before has taken place. As soon as I finish the new movie with the former version, I'll report back.

Regards :)

[jdobbs]

I´am not sure if that is the fix, but will try it on weekend. That would really surprise me if it were... it sounds more like something in the muxing.

[jdobbs]

In my last 2 reencodes (using v0.22.01), one of them just 5 minutes ago, the process stopped with CURRENT PROGRESS at 100% and OVERALL PROGRESS at 50% at 1st pass. I had to click abort and then reclick backup for the process to restart where it has left it. Haven't changed anything from my settings: "Normal Priority - High Quality - Movie Only and depending from the movie, BD5 or BD9" As soon as I finish the movie I'm doing now, I'll go back to v0.21.01 and see if the problem reproduces itself, when it never before has taken place. As soon as I finish the new movie with the former version, I'll report back.

Regards :) It resumed on the second pass, though? If so, then at least I can know that it happened after the first X264 instance had terminated and look elsewhere.

[Wolfe999]

It resumed on the second pass, though? If so, then at least I can know that it happened after the first X264 instance had terminated and look elsewhere.

Yeah, jdobbs. It could have gone on forever stuck at 100% after finishing the 1st pass. But when I aborted the process and then clicked again on backup, the program asked if I wanted to continued from the point where it was cancelled. Then it began the 2nd pass and finished the process without any problem. I burnt both projects and checked both DVD's and they seemed to be ok. Now I have reverted to the former version and I'm doing another movie. I'll report in some hours, as soon as it is finished.

[Wolfe999]

@Jdobbs

Though the work I'm doing now with v0.21.01 hasn't finished yet, I'm almost sure what happened before must be a bug of the last version, because the reencoding I'm doing at this moment is in the 2nd pass and in the 57% of the Overall Process, when before always got stuck at 50% at the completion of the 1st pass.. If anything strange happens, I'll report back. If not, I'll keep with this version till you say the bug of 0.22 is fixed.

Regards (and thanx again for your work) :)
Wolfe

[MikeyBK]

JD... I also just got a similiar quirk as Wolfe999.
On the movie I just did last night, it shows as complete, but the Overall Progess meter is stuck at 50%. The BD-9 'did' actually finish but shows @ 50% on that progress meter. When I tried resuming the job again, it restarts at the BD structure rebuilding.... so apparently both passes were indeed completed.

So I just tried out a test file thru v0.22.01, and you'll see the quirk in the overall progress reporting... two screenshots below

You can see below that it is already on the second pass, but stuck at 0% overall...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4489/v02201overallprogressmi.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v02201overallprogressmi.png)

And below, the encode and rebuild is fully completed, but it still shows as 0%
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3023/v02201overallprogressmio.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v02201overallprogressmio.png)

[Tongariro]

Yeah, jdobbs. It could have gone on forever stuck at 100% after finishing the 1st pass. But when I aborted the process and then clicked again on backup, the program asked if I wanted to continued from the point where it was cancelled. Then it began the 2nd pass and finished the process without any problem. I burnt both projects and checked both DVD's and they seemed to be OK. Now I have reverted to the former version and I'm doing another movie. I'll report in some hours, as soon as it is finished.

It happened to me exactly what you describe.
Doing National Treasure it was stack 100% not moving.
Aborting the BD-RD and restarting again definitely did the trick and final result was perfect.

Tried it on the previous version with no problem.
it might be a BUG in new version.

[MikeyBK]

Oh and BTW... I do know that even though it was showing as 0% overall, it was indeed encoding because all 4 of my cores were being utilized.... so it's just a bug in that overall progress meter, and doesn't affect the 'actual' project or encoding...

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

[MikeyBK]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

Ideally you would want all four of your CPU's cores to be fully utilized while on that second pass....
My Q9550 utilizes aorund 80%-90% on the first pass, and around 97%-100% on the second. Anything less would mean that your system isn't fully utilizing all your CPU's power and potetntial.

[bassnut]

Yes I have had the same problem with BD Rebuilder freezing on the second pass whill doing the Harry Potter Series. A quick switch to Quicker encode for extras solved the problem and have been able to finish the movies. All issues seemed to be with VC-1 clips for the extras from what I had seen.

Tried all three options of FFDshow for encoding VC-1 - Disabled, libavcodec and wmv9 and is the same with all. Both libav (Harry Potter 3) and wmv9 (Harry Potter 2) worked fine and the burn finished. I have watched Harry Potter 3 and played right through no problems LPCM was retained and 1080p 24 worked fine and all extras on my Sony BDP-S350 as well with Total Media Theater and WinDVD 9.

[datman]

In my last 2 reencodes (using v0.22.01), one of them just 5 minutes ago, the process stopped with CURRENT PROGRESS at 100% and OVERALL PROGRESS at 50% at 1st pass. I had to click abort and then reclick backup for the process to restart where it has left it. Haven't changed anything from my settings: "Normal Priority - High Quality - Movie Only and depending from the movie, BD5 or BD9" As soon as I finish the movie I'm doing now, I'll go back to v0.21.01 and see if the problem reproduces itself, when it never before has taken place. As soon as I finish the new movie with the former version, I'll report back.

Regards :)

I have had this exact issue. It looks like it is stuck at the very end of the 1st pass, before the progress bar reset to 0% but the CPU remained max-ed out as if it was in a 2nd pass .The 1st 2 I restarted but on the 3rd it completed. The encode was fine. The 3rd,4th and 5th completed

All 5 encodes using 2201 had this issue. I was reluctant to post because I still have black and blue marks from my last posted error
;)

[Wolfe999]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

My new PC also has an I7 920 and gets the same percentage as you, so I want to suppose its normal :)

BTW, I went back to v0.21.01, did Unforgiven and everything went OK.

[MikeyBK]

v0.22.01 'does' actually run it's course completely, it just doesn't report the proper progress on the GUI. v22.01 has completed every Bluray I've thrown at it, so I'll continue to use that version and not go back to v21.01...

I'd call it more of a quirk than a bug, but all the same, I'm sure JD will look into it and corect it on the next release.

[legend8]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but whenever I try to convert to 720p, it leaves it as 1080p. I'm using the newest version, 1080p to 720p is enabled but it just wont do it. Always leaves it as 1080p. Both full backup and movie always result in the same thing. Target size doesn't change the outcome either. Bdrebuilder.ini shows "RESIZE_1080=1" and bdrebuilder.inf shows "RESIZE_1080=-1", not sure if thats correct or not. Anyone have any ideas what's going on?

[Category 5]

@jdobbs;
I have never checked before now, but is it normal for x264 to use 99% cpu on pass 2? On pass 1 , it was about 47% to 48%. My I7 920 seems to be running just fine, about 23fps on pass 2. Just curious, any thoughts?

Woah. I'm sure it's right because my Q6600 (running at 3GHz) gets about 7.5fps on pass 2. Wow I wish I got 23fps! At 7.5fps all 4 of my cores are lit.

I had no idea the i7 was that much more efficient! What GHz is yours running?

[kanerulz69]

i have a problem with it cutting off right when the overall process is around 94% to 97% i have got it to work after 3 attempts but it always cuts off, i did underworld 3 with quicker for extras (bd-25) and the same for it doing it without quicker for extras, tried normal mode and idel mode, i wish that it would resume from the 90+% current process instead of starting the entire movie process over at 0.00% then it would be ok, thank it would be good to have a pause/resume option for bd-rebuilder as well.

im using amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 2.50 ghz 32bit os (hp media center pc amd 64live) if that helps, its like the cpu fan is going super fast and then out of no where it shuts the pc down, i have tried changing the x264 / bd rebuilder to run on cpu 0 and just cpu 1 but still it shuts off? any help i would be thankful, i love the software its great, if only this problems could be fixed, along with the current process resume...

[bassnut]

I assume you are talking about this processor -

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Brisbane 2.5GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor

I started with a 5200+ core which isn't much different than what you have without any problems though it was taking about 24 - 28 hours to do a movie and was in an Antec 900 case which has lots of cooling. This is sounding like it is more of a heat issue. What kind of case and cooling, Just a stock HP case and cooling I assume? if so you might be right with it overheating. I know there is a place in Windows vista that wil tell you your temps but for the life of me I can't remember exactly where right now ...... I use PC Wizzard (http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php) to find out info such as that. install, run and i temps you will see what is going on. Start this before you try againand you will have a better idea of what is going on.
http://209.91.177.82/Images/wiz.jpg

However you should be able to start the project over from where you left off as long as you made no changes to your settings. I am sure one of the guys with a bit more experience with this maybe a bit more helpfull.

[Category 5]

i have a problem with it cutting off right when the overall process is around 94% to 97% i have got it to work after 3 attempts but it always cuts off, i did underworld 3 with quicker for extras (bd-25) and the same for it doing it without quicker for extras, tried normal mode and idel mode, i wish that it would resume from the 90+% current process instead of starting the entire movie process over at 0.00% then it would be ok, thank it would be good to have a pause/resume option for bd-rebuilder as well.

im using amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 2.50 ghz 32bit os (hp media center pc amd 64live) if that helps, its like the cpu fan is going super fast and then out of no where it shuts the pc down, i have tried changing the x264 / bd rebuilder to run on cpu 0 and just cpu 1 but still it shuts off? any help i would be thankful, i love the software its great, if only this problems could be fixed, along with the current process resume...

Sounds like an underpowered PSU to me. Small PSU, over time loses stamina. Random shutdowns and reboots are usually PSU or RAM related.

[MikeyBK]

i have a problem with it cutting off right when the overall process is around 94% to 97% i have got it to work after 3 attempts but it always cuts off, i did underworld 3 with quicker for extras (bd-25) and the same for it doing it without quicker for extras, tried normal mode and idel mode, i wish that it would resume from the 90+% current process instead of starting the entire movie process over at 0.00% then it would be ok, thank it would be good to have a pause/resume option for bd-rebuilder as well.

im using amd athlon 64 x2 dual core processor 2.50 ghz 32bit os (hp media center pc amd 64live) if that helps, its like the cpu fan is going super fast and then out of no where it shuts the pc down, i have tried changing the x264 / bd rebuilder to run on cpu 0 and just cpu 1 but still it shuts off? any help i would be thankful, i love the software its great, if only this problems could be fixed, along with the current process resume...

It actually could be that your CPU is not cooling properly to sustain the high load temps while running x264 from BD-Rebuilder.

Have you monitored your CPU tenps while you're running x264? With something like CoreTemp?

[Rail-Runner]

Just did 300,The Day the Earth Stood Still & Crank in movie only BD25 Eng. nothing checked off, these would previously crap out with retry and abort in full movie but are successful in movie only except that they would hang at 50% overall progress with the CPU spiked at 100% useage even thow it was not progressing until aborted and continued from previous point then it would continue to process the remaining 50% to final burn status, I know there was an issue with the pip in some of these movies, but I thought I would mention this issue with hanging at 50% progress and the CPU spiked at 100% but not progressing until aborted and restarted from that point.

[MikeyBK]

Just did 300,The Day the Earth Stood Still & Crank in movie only BD25 Eng. nothing checked off, these would previously crap out with retry and abort in full movie but are successful in movie only except that they would hang at 50% overall progress with the CPU spiked at 100% useage even thow it was not progressing until aborted and continued from previous point then it would continue to process the remaining 50% to final burn status, I know there was an issue with the pip in some of these movies, but I thought I would mention this issue with hanging at 50% progress and the CPU spiked at 100% but not progressing until aborted and restarted from that point.

The issue of the progress meter showing stuck at 50% has already been reported.... it's just a GUI quirk in v22.01, the encoding does fully complete despite it not showing the progress in the progress meter.... just let it run and finish, and it will.

I'm sure JD will correct it when he has time to release the next beta.

[jdobbs]

Yeah, jdobbs. It could have gone on forever stuck at 100% after finishing the 1st pass. But when I aborted the process and then clicked again on backup, the program asked if I wanted to continued from the point where it was cancelled. Then it began the 2nd pass and finished the process without any problem. I burnt both projects and checked both DVD's and they seemed to be ok. Now I have reverted to the former version and I'm doing another movie. I'll report in some hours, as soon as it is finished. I've been running encodes all night trying to get this to repeat. It just keeps working correctly.

With the number of reports, this is clearly an real issue -- but I can't figure out why it only happens to some people.

Can someone summarize anything particular about their encode or system that might give me a hint to this?

One scenario is that BD-RB never gets a signal that X264 has terminated after the 1st pass and continues to wait... Another would be that it couldn't find the PID for X264 and is executing but not reporting the status. Could someone check the task manager and see if X264.EXE is still executing at the point where it appears to be stuck at 100%? Is everyone using the verions of X264 that was released with BD-RB?

Thanks.

[Capsbackup]

Woah. I'm sure it's right because my Q6600 (running at 3GHz) gets about 7.5fps on pass 2. Wow I wish I got 23fps! At 7.5fps all 4 of my cores are lit.

I had no idea the i7 was that much more efficient! What GHz is yours running?

Just the stock 2.67GHz, 3 GB triple channel RAM.
I noticed that a lot of dust can get inside the case and on the cpu fan, so it is probably a good idea to clean off the dust. Reduced cooling noticed immediatley.

[jdobbs]

The issue of the progress meter showing stuck at 50% has already been reported.... it's just a GUI quirk in v22.01, the encoding does fully complete despite it not showing the progress in the progress meter.... just let it run and finish, and it will.

I'm sure JD will correct it when he has time to release the next beta. Thanks for that. I think the PID detection may be the issue since it seem to complete anyway -- I changed it in this version.

[Capsbackup]

I've been running encodes all night trying to get this to repeat. It just keeps working correctly.

With the number of reports, this is clearly an real issue -- but I can't figure out why it only happens to some people.

Can someone summarize anything particular about their encode or system that might give me a hint to this?

One scenario is that BD-RB never gets a signal that X264 has terminated after the 1st pass and continues to wait... Another would be that it couldn't find the PID for X264 and is executing but not reporting the status. Could someone check and see if X264.EXE is still executing at the point where it appears to be stuck at 100%. Is everyone using the verions of X264 that was released with BD-RB?

Thanks.

I just finished a full movie backup of 40 Year Old Virgin to BD-25, and I did not experience this. I did notice that the extended version does not play, only the theatrical version. This movie does have PIP, so that is probably the reason. Now completed three backups with BD-RBV02201, and all were perfect, no glitches!!
Thanks again jdobbs. :D

[kanerulz69]

However you should be able to start the project over from where you left off as long as you made no changes to your settings. I am sure one of the guys with a bit more experience with this maybe a bit more helpfull.

i am able to start over at the overall process which is at 65% of the movie but the current when it shut off was like near the end and the overall was like 90%+ so when i resumed it started the entire movie all over from the beginning which still put the percent higher but not the current at the place where it shut off at

[kanerulz69]

Sounds like an underpowered PSU to me. Small PSU, over time loses stamina. Random shutdowns and reboots are usually PSU or RAM related.

it sounds like a jet taking off at times where the heatsink and fan are and then out of no where it will shut off and it does this even if the cpu is not at 100%? any ideas?

[GaPony]

I think a separate thread is in order... this problem has nothing to do with bugs in BD-Rebuilder. Start a new thread and I'm sure you'll get plenty of suggestions on solving your problem. :)

[MILLZY]

Bedtime stories that was failing on all other release`s at rebuild has worked great with version BD-RBV02201.Well done and thanks very much!:) Forgot to mention that this was at full backup BD-25.

[jdobbs]

Can I get some feedback on the new version and the PS-3? Is the movie-only output of BD-RB now working on PS-3s with the default settings?

Any issues or feedback from anyone related to the new AVCHD output and the "Stricter AVCHD..." settings? (Other than the one I already know concerning the retention of the CERTIFICATE folder).

[MikeyBK]

Can I get some feedback on the new version and the PS-3? Is the movie-only output of BD-RB now working on PS-3s with the default settings?

Any issues or feedback from anyone related to the new AVCHD output and the "Stricter AVCHD..." settings? (Other than the one I already know concerning the retention of the CERTIFICATE folder).

I can confirm that a movie only BD autoplays on the PS3 whether or not 'Stricter AVCHD' is checked or not... so yes, it plays on PS3s with default settings now.

[Wolfe999]

Is everyone using the verions of X264 that was released with BD-RB?

Thanks.

Yeah, I use the programs that come with BD-RB.

I will download now the new version and do another movie. Tomorrow I'll post if I had any problem. Sorry I won't be able to report on PS3 as I don't have it.

Thank you :)

[GaPony]

Can I get some feedback on the new version and the PS-3? Is the movie-only output of BD-RB now working on PS-3s with the default settings?

Any issues or feedback from anyone related to the new AVCHD output and the "Stricter AVCHD..." settings? (Other than the one I already know concerning the retention of the CERTIFICATE folder).

Works fine... no problems.

[jdobbs]

Thanks, all. :)

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have noticed that some movies, when viewing the associated .mpls file with TsMuxer, has an audio delay. Does BD-RB correct the audio delays that there may be on certain movies?

[Furiousflea]

ALL the Harry Potterr films have a massive 5-7 second audio delay on the 1080i extra that contains group interview with the main child cast.

No matter how you process it, keep\don't keeping interlacing.

This is using the Arcsoft VC1 decoder since the others all crash due to it being hybrid material.

[jdobbs]

ALL the Harry Potterr films have a massive 5-7 second audio delay on the 1080i extra that contains group interview with the main child cast.

No matter how you process it, keep\don't keeping interlacing.

This is using the Arcsoft VC1 decoder since the others all crash due to it being hybrid material. I just looked at that interview on AZKABAN. On mine it is MPEG-2 and 720x480. It plays back and encodes fine. I'll check out the other discs.


[Edit] Ok. I just found the one you're talking about on "Goblet of Fire" -- on my system the audio is off even on the (ripped) original when I play it back with Media Player. That wouldn't be a BD-RB issue... I'd guess the audio issue simply gets "passed through" during the encode. BTW: WMV11 doesn't crash on it, and at least on the Region A disc it isn't hybrid.

[Edit again] It looks like it isn't hybrid, but is pulldown. It appears that Media Player seems to be ignoring the pulldown flags, and that's what is causing the audio issue. I'd guess your frame server is doing the same.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I have noticed that some movies, when viewing the associated .mpls file with TsMuxer, has an audio delay. Does BD-RB correct the audio delays that there may be on certain movies? The delay is corrected in the demux when doing movie-only because the MPLS is used. My experience has been that you shouldn't change it when doing full backup. Are you experiencing issues with audio sync?

[ibanez]

Deleted [known issue]

[Capsbackup]

The delay is corrected in the demux when doing movie-only because the MPLS is used. My experience has been that you shouldn't change it when doing full backup. Are you experiencing issues with audio sync?

A full backup of Batman Begins, Region A, had very noticeable audio out of sync after burning to BD-RE and playing back on my Sony BX1, but the audio seemed to be in sync when played back on the computer with MPC. A movie only backup of 40 Year Old Virgin to BD-5 seemed to be out of sync slightly, but still very watchable.
I'm not sure if you read the post a few weeks back about Terminator 3 and VC-1 1080i and audio sync issues, and what I did to correct that one, but that is completely different from this concern.

[Wolfe999]

Yeah, I use the programs that come with BD-RB.

I will download now the new version and do another movie. Tomorrow I'll post if I had any problem. Sorry I won't be able to report on PS3 as I don't have it.

Thank you :)

Sorry for the delay.

The fix you did for the last version works perfectly. I did another movie and the transition from 1 to 2 pass went smoothly and the movie finished without problem
:)

[Furiousflea]

I just looked at that interview on AZKABAN. On mine it is MPEG-2 and 720x480. It plays back and encodes fine. I'll check out the other discs.


[Edit] Ok. I just found the one you're talking about on "Goblet of Fire" -- on my system the audio is off even on the (ripped) original when I play it back with Media Player. That wouldn't be a BD-RB issue... I'd guess the audio issue simply gets "passed through" during the encode. BTW: WMV11 doesn't crash on it, and at least on the Region A disc it isn't hybrid.

[Edit again] It looks like it isn't hybrid, but is pulldown. It appears that Media Player seems to be ignoring the pulldown flags, and that's what is causing the audio issue. I'd guess your frame server is doing the same.

Thanks for looking into that for me.

[canadian guy]

hi im just wondering,,i have installed all the programs needed to run BDRB,,when i click on source folder,,cannot find any bluray files,,even in the stream folder,,no files show up,,did i miss something,,cheers

[HWK]

No, You just need to point to root folder of your blu-ray source.

Root folder will have Certificate and Stream folder. There may be additional folder in it.

[MikeyBK]

No, You just need to point to root folder of your blu-ray source.

Root folder will have Certificate and Stream folder. There may be additional folder in it.

I know that you meant that they had to point BD-RB to the Volume folder, which contains the BDMV and Certificate sub folders.
The Streams folder is in the BDMV folder.

Just load the folder that is the name of the movie.

[canadian guy]

i did that but it keeps coming up this is not a BD file or somthing like that,,not BD image,,but in the stream folder the files do not appear,,should you see them,,then chose a file to load,,NO BD FILE FOUND,,thats what it says,,

[leChameleon]

I just wanted to confirm the PIP extra's in Weeds: Season 4 Disc 1 is not working with BD-RB 0.22.01 beta.
Full Backup, All Audio, All everything 47GB -> 25GB.
If you need anything from me please let me know.

[GaPony]

i did that but it keeps coming up this is not a BD file or somthing like that,,not BD image,,but in the stream folder the files do not appear,,should you see them,,then chose a file to load,,NO BD FILE FOUND,,thats what it says,,

When you rip the movie to your hard drive, it will be placed in a folder that has the same name as the volume lable of the original movie disc... such as C:\BD_Movies\Eastern_Promises. That's where you want to point the source...not to the sub-folders of that original folder.

[Furiousflea]

I just wanted to confirm the PIP extra's in Weeds: Season 4 Disc 1 is not working with BD-RB 0.22.01 beta.
Full Backup, All Audio, All everything 47GB -> 25GB.
If you need anything from me please let me know.

Not supposed to work yet, 2 video tracks in 1 m2ts hasn't been implemented yet.

[canadian guy]

When you rip the movie to your hard drive, it will be placed in a folder that has the same name as the volume lable of the original movie disc... such as C:\BD_Movies\Eastern_Promises. That's where you want to point the source...not to the sub-folders of that original folder.

thank you,,,i thought you had to to open up a file in the sub folder,,,like the stream folder,,thank you again,,cheers

[jdobbs]

Just posted a new version of BD-RB in the first post of this thread (v0.22.02). The changes for this version are:

- Corrected an error in which the CERTIFICATE folder
was not being properly removed (when it exists) from
movie-only encodes.
- Added code to use alternate means to obtain window
handle (for status bar update) when PID cannot be
obtained. This should prevent the confusing "50%
completed" display that incorrectly gives the
impression of an encoding freeze.
- Added a hidden option that will force movie-only
encodes into BLU-RAY format. This is enabled by
adding "FORCE_BLURAY=1" to the OPTIONS area of the
config file (BDREBUILDER.INI).
- Change the default for PRIORITY to IDLE rather than
NORMAL. This is typically the better setting.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Chefkoch_ico]

@jdobbs
At first, your last version works great. I am doing only full backups to bd25. I dont run into problems anymore, but one.

For playing the discs I am using a HTPC with PowerDVD8 and a LG 370 SAP.

Mostly all discs work on both players great. But full backups of european Universal titles have problems on PowerDVD and, so I heard here, on some Panasonic models.

When pressing on the main menu "Play movie" the screen gets black and the display time stays at 00:00. No way to play the disc, even after waiting 30 minutes the disc does not start.

Examples of movies are the Bourne triology.

Are you interested/have time to analyse this problem? Can I help you somehow with analysing?

Thx for your efforts.

[MikeyBK]

v0.22.02 still has the stuck at 50% issue. It still continues on and finishes both passes and the rebuild, but the progress bar just shows stuck at 50% after the first pass.

I haven't tested that playability on PS3s with Stricter AVCHD checked on movie-only.

[drmih]

@jdobbs
At first, your last version works great. I am doing only full backups to bd25. I dont run into problems anymore, but one.

For playing the discs I am using a HTPC with PowerDVD8 and a LG 370 SAP.

Mostly all discs work on both players great. But full backups of european Universal titles have problems on PowerDVD and, so I heard here, on some Panasonic models.

When pressing on the main menu "Play movie" the screen gets black and the display time stays at 00:00. No way to play the disc, even after waiting 30 minutes the disc does not start.

Examples of movies are the Bourne triology.

Are you interested/have time to analyse this problem? Can I help you somehow with analysing?

Thx for your efforts.

The european Universal titles work fine on bd-25 (I have done the Bourne series myself although using a much earlier version). On bd-9 there is an issue with the audio track on sony standalones. However, everything plays fine with TMT3.

[colinhunt]

Did my second "Full Backup to DVD9" encode last night with 0.22.01. Everything went fine until the Rebuilding phase.

[02:05:42] BD Rebuilder v0.22.01 (beta)
- Source: BDROM
- Input BD size: 20,47 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:49.723]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
[02:05:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:05:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [02:05:48] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 8*374 Kbs
- [02:05:48] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:06:27] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:08:38] Video Encode complete
- [02:08:38] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:08:39] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:08:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [02:08:42] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29,970fps
- Bitrate: 6*967 Kbs
- [02:08:42] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:08:51] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:08:59] Video Encode complete
- [02:08:59] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:08:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:09:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [02:09:20] Collecting video information [00003]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 7*973 Kbs
- [02:09:20] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:12:58] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:25:53] Video Encode complete
- [02:25:53] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:25:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:25:58] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [02:26:05] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 7*660 Kbs
- [02:26:05] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:27:10] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:30:27] Video Encode complete
- [02:30:27] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:30:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:30:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [02:37:54] Collecting video information [00005]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 9*019 Kbs
- [02:37:54] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:49:18] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:53:39] Video Encode complete
- [06:53:39] Reencoding audio tracks
- [06:53:39] Multiplexing M2TS
[06:55:55]PHASE ONE complete
[06:55:55]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:55:55] Rebuilding BD file Structure

I have a dialog box with a title of "Error Condition" on screen, with the text "BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2202 [06:55:55] RebuildBDFiles() 00052 2202" on it. I clicked OK and the line " - [06:55:55] RebuildBDFiles() 00052 2202" was added to the log, followed by "Aborted at user request".

I've done one successful "Full backup to DVD9" run earlier with 0.22.01, but used another PC for it. Both PCs are running WinXP Pro SP3. I've done several "Full Backup to BD25" encodes on this PC but using the previous version of BD Rebuilder; this was the first encoding with 0.22.01 on this PC.

Update: Well, I learned a lesson. Always keep the source data on the same PC you're doing the encoding with. I had ripped the original as an .ISO file, placed it on a NAS box and mounted it over LAN with Daemon Tools. At some point during the night the PC had decided to disconnect from the NAS share (I'd appreciate suggestions on how to stop that from happening!) and ruined the encode.

I re-mounted the ISO with Daemon Tools, clicked Backup on BD-RB and told it to continue previous job: it finished the rebuilding stage without problems. But since the connection to NAS had been disrupted, the output was only 5GB and half of the movie was missing, replaced by a gray screen, while audio played fine to the end.

[Chefkoch_ico]

The european Universal titles work fine on bd-25 (I have done the Bourne series myself although using a much earlier version). On bd-9 there is an issue with the audio track on sony standalones. However, everything plays fine with TMT3.
They dont work fine. They work fine IF using TMT3. But not on PowerDVD and not on some Panasonic SAP and who knows on what others players this problem exists.

[drmih]

They dont work fine. They work fine IF using TMT3. But not on PowerDVD and not on some Panasonic SAP and who knows on what others players this problem exists.

So given the fact that they work on the recommended Sony SAP (which he owns) and also on a pc with one type of media player, is there a bug in bd-rb and if so how would you identify it? I would assume that if a SAP isn't able to play full backups on bd-5/9 then the implementation could be a bit flaky on some discs done to bd-25.

[turbojet]

A little process of elimination on the PIP issue.

Does a universal BD25 with PIP burned on to a BDR play in the problematic player? If not it's a player issue.
Does the M2TS play ok in PowerDVD? If not the m2ts is part of the issue, more than likely mux problem. If yes, it's an issue with clpi, mpls, index.bdmv and/or movieobject.bdmv
Stripping any sub/audio streams? If yes, it's known that the mpls isn't updated correctly thus stripped streams are accessible by some players, try without stripping.

Beyond that I have no idea.

[jdobbs]

v0.22.02 still has the stuck at 50% issue. It still continues on and finishes both passes and the rebuild, but the progress bar just shows stuck at 50% after the first pass.

I haven't tested that playability on PS3s with Stricter AVCHD checked on movie-only. That's a disappointment. I changed the only thing that I could imagine as the cause, and the only thing that has changed related to it -- and after running numerous attempts on my system I still can't repeat it. I don't have a clue where to go from here.

1. What O/S are you using?
2. What version of X264 are you using?
3. Does it happen all the time, or just occasionally?
4. Could you post your BDREBUILDER.INI so I can try with the same settings?

Something has to be different that makes it happen on your system but not mine.

As an experiment, could you add the parameter "SHOW_ENCODER=1" to your BDREBUILDER.INI file? Then the X264 window will show when it is executing. See if, while the 2nd pass is executing, the window caption is being updated with the status, also -- capture the screen if you could so I can see what it looks like with the encode and BD-RB both running (and there is no update being made to the BD-RB GUI).

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

[MikeyBK]

That's a disappointment. I changed the only thing that I could imagine as the cause, and the only thing that has changed related to it -- and after running numerous attempts on my system I still can't repeat it. I don't have a clue where to go from here.

1. What O/S are you using?
2. What version of X264 are you using?
3. Does it happen all the time, or just occasionally?
4. Could you post your BDREBUILDER.INI so I can try with the same settings?

Something has to be different that makes it happen on your system but not mine.

As an experiment, could you add the parameter "SHOW_ENCODER=1" to your BDREBUILDER.INI file? Then the X264 window will show when it is executing. See if, while the 2nd pass is executing, the window caption is being updated with the status, also -- capture the screen if you could so I can see what it looks like with the encode and BD-RB both running (and there is no update being made to the BD-RB GUI).

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

You're right JD, it's not happening on the Bluray that I'm doing currently. The Express, which is VC-1, movie-only to BD-9, set to fast encoding setting, using the version of x264 that you've placed in the Tools folder at Normal priority.

I'll post the INI file of this current encoding, if you still need.
I had tested v0.22.02 on a few short test clips, which also showed the same 'stuck at 50%' charecteristic when it was happening with all the other movie encodings in v0.22.01.
I'll run another encoding later tonite and see if it also shows the progress bar correctly.

BTW, my OS is XP MCE SP3.

[Dingo27]

Powerdvd normally plays it fine when the disc is mounted from an iso. But in the last versions of BD_Rebuilder the screen in powerdvd was black while playing. So i demuxed the mounted movie with tsmuxer and became the info that the stream hasn`t an correct framerate, it was in that case 23,975fps.
Tried to fix the stream with h264info and muxed it again with tsmuxer, builded an iso again and powerdvd played it well.

I think BD_Rebuilder didn`t make any changes to the framerate, could it be that ffdshow did not set it correct?

sorry for my english, regards

dingo

[Furiousflea]

Could someone please explain why all output from BD-Rebuilder gets it's frame rate changed, this has been noted since the first release.

When you view the bluray details with eac3to frontend the frame rate for 23.976 video is changed to 23.975, same goes fo9r 60fps interlaced material, it gets changed to 59...something or other.

I asked this a long time ago at least twice with no response, hope the chief notices it this time :)


Thanx, :)

[GaPony]

Maybe... sometimes its better to not do so much investigating. I've never noticed any frame rate issues and am not sure how a 1/1000th fps would make any difference. Is it possible that its simply a mathematical difference in the computation used by the two programs?

[Dingo27]

Maybe... sometimes its better to not do so much investigating. I've never noticed any frame rate issues and am not sure how a 1/1000th fps would make any difference. Is it possible that its simply a mathematical difference in the computation used by the two programs?

i`m sure that i would make a difference dippending to what kind of player i`m using. My Pana BD-30 had always a black screen with movies that came from BD_Rebuilder, same disc played fine in my Pioneer 51FP. The Player`s from Panasonic keep the spezifications strictly and a framerate 23,975 fps isn`t correct. Maybe the same on Powerdvd ...

[MikeyBK]

BDInfo shows every on of my BDs output from BD-RB as 23.976.
Is there a reason it would show differently in BDInfo as opposed to eAC3to?

[Capsbackup]

BDInfo displays 23.976fps on all of my BD-RB backups too. Maybe it's a region code? My discs are all region A.
I have never had a BD-RB movie only backup to BD-5 or BD-9 not play on my Sony BDP-BX1. And before BD-RB, I used MeGui and TsMuxer, and everyone of those movie only backups played back too. I would suggest a quick visit to the local Best Buy or Fry's with the disc in hand that does not play on the Panasonic players, and test them out on other players, Sony in particular, and then maybe it could be related to BD-RB if it does not play correctly.

[GaPony]

i`m sure that i would make a difference dippending to what kind of player i`m using. My Pana BD-30 had always a black screen with movies that came from BD_Rebuilder, same disc played fine in my Pioneer 51FP. The Player`s from Panasonic keep the spezifications strictly and a framerate 23,975 fps isn`t correct. Maybe the same on Powerdvd ...

Given all that I have read on this forum, I would look first at the Panasonic being out of spec long before placing blame on BD Rebuilder. Its success rate for other brands (less Denon) seems to be too good.

I still think the frame rate difference of 23.975 vs. 23.976 is likely in the algorithm used by the various scanning/checking programs.

The Panasonic players have been the subject of several posts where 24p playback must be disabled for BD Rebuilder copies, which would point to a flaw in the player, not the software.

[turbojet]

The framerate issue is either eac3to not reading the x264 fps header correctly or x264 not outputting the correct fps header, eac3to detects fps of DivX H.264 and retail BD correctly.

With the Panasonic 24p issue I found another difference between RipBot264 and BD-RB. The full list of differences I've found that could make a difference are:
- x264 --nal-hrd in RipBot264
- x264 --aud in RipBot264 (no difference in mkv files)
- x264 --fps <fps> in RipBot264 (no difference in mkv files)
- RipBot264 outputs to .264 files
- x264 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 in RipBot264 (BD-RB uses --keyint 24 min-keyint 1)

[Dingo27]

it`s not only eac3to, tsmuxer shows also the framerate 23,975 fps from the stream rebuilded with BD_Rebuilder, and when the original stream is loaded in tsmuxer the correct framerate 23,976 fps.

[MikeyBK]

it`s not only eac3to, tsmuxer shows also the framerate 23,975 fps from the stream rebuilded with BD_Rebuilder, and when the original stream is loaded in tsmuxer the correct framerate 23,976 fps.

TSMuxer shows the BD-RB outputs as 23.976 for me.... as BDInfo does.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3721/fps23976.th.png (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fps23976.png)

[Capsbackup]

TSMuxer shows the BD-RB outputs as 23.976 for me.... as BDInfo does.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3721/fps23976.th.png (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fps23976.png)

I second that. All my backups have always shown 23.976fps.

[mouw]

v 22.02
using Alternate Movie to get 2-part BROKEN TRAIL --> 2 BD9s
x264 Encoder - Normal Priority - Highest Quality - Custom Size = 8250 - AC3 640kps audio
Overall Progress STUCK= 50% -- Encode Finishes OK

VISTA 32/Ultimate - Intel Q6600 cpu (NOT OverClocked)
Playback PowerDVD 7.3 / Sony BDP-S350 == OK
same problem w/ v22.01 == NO problems w/ v20.09
i do MOVIE only Encodes== this always happens since v22.01


[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=8250
FORCE_BLURAY=1
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=8250
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\REBUILDER\
SOURCE_PATH=C:\MOVIES\BROKEN_TRAIL_BD\

[Sharc]

The framerate issue is either eac3to not reading the x264 fps header correctly or x264 not outputting the correct fps header, eac3to detects fps of DivX H.264 and retail BD correctly.

With the Panasonic 24p issue I found another difference between RipBot264 and BD-RB. The full list of differences I've found that could make a difference are:
- x264 --nal-hrd in RipBot264
- x264 --aud in RipBot264 (no difference in mkv files)
- x264 --fps <fps> in RipBot264 (no difference in mkv files)
- RipBot264 outputs to .264 files
- x264 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 in RipBot264 (BD-RB uses --keyint 24 min-keyint 1)

Don't know if this is relevant: I have seen MPC (or MPC-HC) indicating weird (random?) framerates (check: properties ....) for x264 encoded DVD (720x576) PAL material (raw encoded video stream *.264). This resulted in an odd movie length indication in MPC and in difficulties with random seeking.
Converting the *.264 to *.mkv with mkvtools and enforcing 25fps solved the problem.

--nal-hrd requires a patched version of x264 IIRC. However, I understand that tsMuxeR adds this as well, so it may no longer be required for x264. I still do wonder why meGui still uses --nal-hrd for blu-ray encodes....

--keyint 24 instead of --keyint 250 is required for compliant blu-ray format. GOPs must not be longer than 1 second as I understand.

[GaPony]

v 22.02
using Alternate Movie to get 2-part BROKEN TRAIL --> 2 BD9s
x264 Encoder - Normal Priority - Highest Quality - Custom Size = 8250 - AC3 640kps audio
Overall Progress STUCK= 50% -- Encode Finishes OK

VISTA 32/Ultimate - Intel Q6600 cpu (NOT OverClocked)
Playback PowerDVD 7.3 / Sony BDP-S350 == OK
same problem w/ v22.01 == NO problems w/ v20.09
i do MOVIE only Encodes== this always happens since v22.01



This is obviously not effecting everyone equally. I haven't experienced the stuck progress bar with v.22.02 and only did a couple of movies with v.22.01, and didn't pay any attention.

[Tongariro]

That's a disappointment. I changed the only thing that I could imagine as the cause, and the only thing that has changed related to it -- and after running numerous attempts on my system I still can't repeat it. I don't have a clue where to go from here.

1. What O/S are you using?
2. What version of X264 are you using?
3. Does it happen all the time, or just occasionally?
4. Could you post your BDREBUILDER.INI so I can try with the same settings?

Something has to be different that makes it happen on your system but not mine.

As an experiment, could you add the parameter "SHOW_ENCODER=1" to your BDREBUILDER.INI file? Then the X264 window will show when it is executing. See if, while the 2nd pass is executing, the window caption is being updated with the status, also -- capture the screen if you could so I can see what it looks like with the encode and BD-RB both running (and there is no update being made to the BD-RB GUI).

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Jdobbs
I can confirm that the progress bar is stuck on 22.02.
I did 2 movies already with it (Yes man and Starship troopers).
It is stuck for pass1 and for pass2 on muxing and demuxing its moving O.K.
I am using xp (not 64bit) and x264 is 1163 (latest).
It happens must of the time . I did observed that one of the MT2S i did saw pass1 moving but its one out of dozens.

:thanks:

[MikeyBK]

Here is a test clip that shows stuck on the progress bar @ 0% during both first and second passes.
Attached is a screenshot of the 'SHOW_ENCODER=1' parameter inserted into the INI which you requested.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9072/showencodernoprogressup.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=showencodernoprogressup.png)

[GaPony]

Just out of curiosity, I changed the Target Size (copying Movie Only to BD9) from the default of 7910 to 8250 (based on mouo's settings) and got the progress bar to stick. I don't know why that single change would cause this issue. I did the exact same movie under the default settings and it worked fine.

[MikeyBK]

Just out of curiosity, I changed the Target Size (copying Movie Only to BD9) from the default of 7910 to 8250 (based on mouo's settings) and got the progress bar to stick. I don't know why that single change would cause this issue. I did the exact same movie under the default settings and it worked fine.

I think that you're on to something, I too set it to custom size, 8350 MBs. May help give some feedback to JD.

[ibanez]

Just out of curiosity, I changed the Target Size (copying Movie Only to BD9) from the default of 7910 to 8250 (based on mouo's settings) and got the progress bar to stick. I don't know why that single change would cause this issue. I did the exact same movie under the default settings and it worked fine.

My progress bar is sticking too. I was doing a movie only backup and had set the custom size also, at 8240.

[PurpleMan]

Hi. I got a couple of questions:

1. How does BD-RB decide what bitrate to use on extras? I tried doing "the dark knight" in full backup mode, and I found that it used a 5000kbit/sec bitrate on a VC1 extra that was originally 10000kbit/sec, so that's 50% less. Is this normal? configurable?

2. Off-topic, does anyone know the exact size in bytes that can be written to a BD-R25?

Thanks everyone, and jdobbs - keep up the good work!

-purpleman2k

[Furiousflea]

I second that. All my backups have always shown 23.976fps.

All well and good....

But the issue remains, and it is a very real one. The original bluray in eac3to is shown correctly. The backup isn't, therefore something is wrong with the backup. eac3to likely does a much deeper (proper) analysis than tsmuxer. I haven't used bdinfo before to check although I am aware that tsmuxer reports no problem.

Pretty weird.

[GaPony]

My progress bar is sticking too. I was doing a movie only backup and had set the custom size also, at 8240.

Try setting it back to the default of 7910 and rerun it to see if it still sticks. :)

I know it takes alot of time, but its in the name of science. ;)

[jdobbs]

Could someone please explain why all output from BD-Rebuilder gets it's frame rate changed, this has been noted since the first release.

When you view the bluray details with eac3to frontend the frame rate for 23.976 video is changed to 23.975, same goes fo9r 60fps interlaced material, it gets changed to 59...something or other.

I asked this a long time ago at least twice with no response, hope the chief notices it this time :)


Thanx, :) My guess: eac3to is wrong. It looks like a rounding error in the reporting. BD Rebuilder doesn't have the capability to set it to anything other than one of the BD standards. But of course I'll look at it.

One possibility: X264 will determine the playback rate from the frame server used. If your codec is reporting it incorrectly it may get passed through... I've never see it happen though, and I'm not even sure that it is possible. I can always force the framerate with --fps easy enough and will, but I have no confidence that it will have an effect.

[jdobbs]

The framerate issue is either eac3to not reading the x264 fps header correctly or x264 not outputting the correct fps header, eac3to detects fps of DivX H.264 and retail BD correctly.

With the Panasonic 24p issue I found another difference between RipBot264 and BD-RB. The full list of differences I've found that could make a difference are:
- x264 --nal-hrd in RipBot264
- x264 --aud in RipBot264 (no difference in mkv files)
- x264 --fps <fps> in RipBot264 (no difference in mkv files)
- RipBot264 outputs to .264 files
- x264 --keyint 250 --min-keyint 25 in RipBot264 (BD-RB uses --keyint 24 min-keyint 1) --nal-hrd has been proven not to make a difference.

--aud is included in the BD-RB command line

--fps shouldn't make a difference, but I can easily add it

--keyint 250 is a violation of the BD and AVCHD standards.

I'd say the Panasonic is the issue...

[jdobbs]

Just out of curiosity, I changed the Target Size (copying Movie Only to BD9) from the default of 7910 to 8250 (based on mouo's settings) and got the progress bar to stick. I don't know why that single change would cause this issue. I did the exact same movie under the default settings and it worked fine. Hmmm... can't imagine the connection -- but stranger things have happened. I'll do some testing.

[GaPony]

Hmmm... can't imagine the connection -- but stranger things have happened. I'll do some testing.

Looking a bit closer... When I edited the config file setting of TARGET_SIZE=7910 to read 8250, saved the file and restarted, and clicked "Backup", it stuck at 50%. After completion, I re-checked the settings and TARGET_SIZE setting was set to the same size as the CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE setting.

Then I went into settings and changed the CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE box to 8250, re-ran the Backup and it didn't stick.

So basically, if I changed to TARGET_SIZE manually in the config file, it sticks. If I change the CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE in the settings window (GUI) it works as it should. If I don't make any changes to the default settings for a movie only copy to BD9, it works normally.

I don't know what this means, but I hope it helps.

[jdobbs]

Here is a test clip that shows stuck on the progress bar @ 0% during both first and second passes.
Attached is a screenshot of the 'SHOW_ENCODER=1' parameter inserted into the INI which you requested.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9072/showencodernoprogressup.th.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=showencodernoprogressup.png)Is it still running? It looks like it should be errored out because of the illegal (higher than max) bitrate?

[PurpleMan]

My guess: eac3to is wrong. It looks like a rounding error in the reporting. BD Rebuilder doesn't have the capability to set it to anything other than one of the BD standards. But of course I'll look at it.

One possibility: X264 will determine the playback rate from the frame server used. If your codec is reporting it incorrectly it may get passed through... I've never see it happen though, and I'm not even sure that it is possible. I can always force the framerate with --fps easy enough and will, but I have no confidence that it will have an effect.

DGAVCIndex also reports the encoded BD-RB stream as 23.975986 fps. Opening the original m2ts with DGVC1Index shows 23.976024 fps.

[mouw]

if I changed to TARGET_SIZE manually in the config file, it sticks. If I change the CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE in the settings window (GUI) it works as it should. If I don't make any changes to the default settings for a movie only copy to BD9, it works normally.

i always change Custom Target in Settings win (GUI)

edited Config File-- SHOW_ENCODER=1
now encoding the International == Movie Only
set Custom Target = 24300 (for BD25)
Keep HD Audio

Encoding process just went to PASS 2/2
both GUI Overall Progress & x264 DOS window show progress 50+% and counting

so NOW it's working ??

[ibanez]

Try setting it back to the default of 7910 and rerun it to see if it still sticks. :)

I know it takes alot of time, but its in the name of science. ;)

Ok, tried it again with the Target Size set to BD-9(DVD-9) (TARGET_SIZE=7910), and it worked. Used the same source as before (Blood Diamond), did a movie only backup as before, with the same settings "Do not convert DTS to AC3" and "Do not reencode AC3". Source video was VC-1 1080p 23.976fps and audio was 640 Kbps AC-3.

This time the progress bar kept updating after pass 2 commenced (current progress = 13.20% and overall progress = 56.60%). Previous the progress bar would stick at the end of pass 1 on 100% and 50% respectively.

I'll try again with the original custom setting (TARGET_SIZE=8240) and see if the problem occurs again.

[MikeyBK]

No it doesn't error out, it keeps running and finishes. It may be the test clip I'm using which causes what you're seeing.

I'll do a movie-only of a actual Bluray with SHOW-ENCODER=1 set and see if it gets stuck @ 50%.
I was thinking it might be what GaPony might be suspecting about the custom target size, however with that same setting the last encoding did not have the progress bar stuck.

Anyways, I'll post the screenshot of the show encoder again when I do the Bluray.

[turbojet]

--nal-hrd has been proven not to make a difference.

--aud is included in the BD-RB command line

--fps shouldn't make a difference, but I can easily add it

--keyint 250 is a violation of the BD and AVCHD standards.

I'd say the Panasonic is the issue...

I posted it mainly for those that are testing to find out what makes a difference with RipBot264 with 24p on some Panasonic players. I don't see a reason to change anything without knowing what it is.

[jdobbs]

No it doesn't error out, it keeps running and finishes. It may be the test clip I'm using which causes what you're seeing.

I'll do a movie-only of a actual Bluray with SHOW-ENCODER=1 set and see if it gets stuck @ 50%.
I was thinking it might be what GaPony might be suspecting about the custom target size, however with that same setting the last encoding did not have the progress bar stuck.

Anyways, I'll post the screenshot of the show encoder again when I do the Bluray. I used to do a search of the active windows to find X264, and then pull the stats from the caption. In v0.22.1 I changed it so I used the process ID from the shell execution to find the window in order to prevent it from ever grabbing the wrong window. I think it's randomly failing to find the window for some odd reason only on pass 2 and only on certain computers. Weird. Even more weird is that it has never once happened to me. Ever. And I've been trying like hell to make it happen.

I'm just going to go back to the original way I grabbed the window.

[turbojet]

DGAVCIndex also reports the encoded BD-RB stream as 23.975986 fps. Opening the original m2ts with DGVC1Index shows 23.976024 fps.

Good find. Someone should really post these issues in the H.264 forum as it's an x264 issue.

EDIT: I posted it in the H.264 forum.

I'm just going to go back to the original way I grabbed the window.

I can see a fix and really some needed cleanup from the last few posts, removing one or the other TARGET_SIZE parameters in the ini, wouldn't fixing it be better then re-introducing an old bug?

Did you get around to removing --stats and --pass from crf encodes as well?

[leChameleon]

Removed. I'll post side by side comparisons.

[jdobbs]

Good find. Someone should really post these issues in the H.264 forum as it's an x264 issue.



I can see a fix and really some needed cleanup from the last few posts, removing one or the other TARGET_SIZE parameters in the ini, wouldn't fixing it be better then re-introducing an old bug?

Did you get around to removing --stats and --pass from crf encodes as well? Fix it? It's the O/S or it would work the same every time, it's not like the code is changing between calls. I don't know what TARGET_SIZE has to do with anything... if you read the posts you'll see that there is no relationship to the settings... it's random.

As I said in my previous response. The "--stats" and "--pass" parameters are there for a reason. There is no reason to remove them as they have no negative effect.

[leChameleon]

Removed. I'll post side by side comparisons.

[turbojet]

Fix it? It's the O/S or it would work the same every time, it's not like the code is changing between calls. I don't know what TARGET_SIZE has to do with anything... if you read the posts you'll see that there is no relationship to the settings... it's random.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but what I've gathered by reading the posts is if TARGET_SIZE and/or CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE are edited through the ini it doesn't pick up pass 2 stats on problematic OS's, if it's set through gui it doesn't. If it's not this could it be non-english versions of Windows?

Also is there any purpose in 2 different target_size parameters?

As I said in my previous response. The "--stats" and "--pass" parameters are there for a reason. There is no reason to remove them as they have no negative effect.

I didn't notice but what purpose do they serve with --crf?

[jdobbs]

I went through the posts, and there is no consistency. Not once is there a time when taking a single action results in the same result and is repeatable. That's the key...

This isn't the first microsoft system call to show issues, and I'm sure it won't be the last. It's very possible that this is the reason I switched to a window search the first time around... I remember there was something goofy related to the call -- but don't remember exactly what.

TARGET_SIZE is the size that is selected and is in use, and it changes every time you make a choice from the menu.

CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE is size that can be selected from the menu and stays persistent while other selections are made.

If you use a CRF and it oversizes (which happens often), your only choice is to then start over and do another CRF (with another possible over/undersize) or redo it with a two-pass. If, however, you do a CRF with and keep the pass/stats data, you can do a simple second pass and resize exactly while taking advantage of the data collected during the CRF pass. And there is no real reason not to do it.

[turbojet]

I went through the posts, and there is no consistency. Not once is there a time when taking a single action results in the same result and is repeatable. That's the key...

This isn't the first microsoft system call to show issues, and I'm sure it won't be the last. It's very possible that this is the reason I switched to a window search the first time around... I remember there was something goofy related to the call -- but don't remember exactly what.

Does it have to do with getting PID? If so that could make pause/resume which has been requested by quite a few before a pretty sticky thing to implement if you were planning on it. Well it would have the same type of bug windows search has, it wouldn't know what process BD-RB is really using.

TARGET_SIZE is the size that is selected and is in use, and it changes every time you make a choice from the menu.

CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE is size that can be selected from the menu and stays persistent while other selections are made.

Oh I understand now, guess they are in some ways needed if you are simply relying on the ini for both.

If you use a CRF and it oversizes (which happens often), your only choice is to then start over and do another CRF (with another possible over/undersize) or redo it with a two-pass. If, however, you do a CRF with and keep the pass/stats data, you can do a simple second pass and resize exactly while taking advantage of the data collected during the CRF pass. And there is no real reason not to do it.[/QUOTE]

Oh I see, but isn't requiring the user to re-encode something you are trying to avoid?

Maybe when the sizing issues are resolved you'll remove them or have an option to remove them?

Call me anal or what have you but being someone that does browse and use the WORKFILES folder for various testing and such the first thing I do is delete all the stats files except main movie, sometimes there's well over 100 which makes it tough to browse files.

[MikeyBK]

No turbojet, you aren't anal..lol.... in fact I like some of what you post, but there is also such a thing as overdoing things. I'm like you in many other processes, especially video editing, but a somewhat wise, perhaps more like a wise'ass', member once said something to me that makes too much sense to ignore.... "while most search for ways to make things easier or more efficient, I'm over there trying to complicate the whole process by testing too much"... kinda like you appear to be doing with BD-RB... right GaPony??:p:)

[PurpleMan]

Another bug report:

Using v0.22.02 with Starship Troopers, all the extras failed to encode becuase BD-RB has put the FieldDeinterlace() before the ConvertToYV12() in the AVS scripts.

FieldDeinterlace required YV12/YUY2 input.

Had to edit all the AVS's myself (and disable BD-RB's overwriting them) in order to get it to complete.

[PurpleMan]

Good find. Someone should really post these issues in the H.264 forum as it's an x264 issue.

It's not a x264 bug, it's a WMVideo Decoder bug.

I tried rendering the m2ts in graphedit, attached ffdshow at the end (after the decoder), and enabled OSD. It then shows 23.975 as the framerate. Which means that x264 is getting the same input.

[turbojet]

Another bug report:

Using v0.22.02 with Starship Troopers, all the extras failed to encode becuase BD-RB has put the FieldDeinterlace() before the ConvertToYV12() in the AVS scripts.

FieldDeinterlace required YV12/YUY2 input.

Had to edit all the AVS's myself (and disable BD-RB's overwriting them) in order to get it to complete.

While it should be fixed there is a better way to approach interlaced by putting KEEP_INTERLACING=1 in the ini the movement is more fluid even on a progressive TV and the encode is much more efficient and actually 30p is not in the standards neither is 720x576 25p.

It's not a x264 bug, it's a WMVideo Decoder bug.

I tried rendering the m2ts in graphedit, attached ffdshow at the end (after the decoder), and enabled OSD. It then shows 23.975 as the framerate. Which means that x264 is getting the same input.

It happens with MPEG2 (ffdshow/powerDVD decoders) and AVC (ffdshow/coreAVC/powerDVD decoders) sources as well, with the sources I used DivX H.264 outputs 23.976024 which is correct from WMVideo decoder. x264 outputs 25, 29.970030, 50 and 59.940060 correctly from all decoders mentioned. However I'm using Windows 7 that has a newer WMVideo through ffdshow, ffdshow is reporting 23.976 fps through graphstudio but I get 23.975986 after encoding.

[MikeyBK]

Well I finally had a failure... on the Fired Up Bluray, which is a seamless branched title.... Failure to retrieve audio.

Only has TrueHD, so not sure what's the problem. I'll give it a few more tries with differing settings and if no go, will append the title into a single m2ts using TSMuxer and try that.

[turbojet]

Well I finally had a failure... on the Fired Up Bluray, which is a seamless branched title.... Failure to retrieve audio.

Only has TrueHD, so not sure what's the problem. I'll give it a few more tries with differing settings and if no go, will append the title into a single m2ts using TSMuxer and try that.

You can usually get a more informative error if you use tsmuxer with the <AUD_.meta file that failed> <output folder> from command line.

[jdobbs]

It's not a x264 bug, it's a WMVideo Decoder bug.

I tried rendering the m2ts in graphedit, attached ffdshow at the end (after the decoder), and enabled OSD. It then shows 23.975 as the framerate. Which means that x264 is getting the same input. That's what I suspected. It's easy to fix. I've added the --fps switch to X264 in the next version.

[jdobbs]

Another bug report:

Using v0.22.02 with Starship Troopers, all the extras failed to encode becuase BD-RB has put the FieldDeinterlace() before the ConvertToYV12() in the AVS scripts.

FieldDeinterlace required YV12/YUY2 input.

Had to edit all the AVS's myself (and disable BD-RB's overwriting them) in order to get it to complete. So if the input isn't in YV12 or YUY2, what is it? I've done Starship Troopers before -- but I'll try it again. I guess it wouldn't hurt to put the ConvertToYV12() before it. The problem is that I also need to put the (future) editable filters there also and I wanted to avoid multiple conversions as they are time comsuming.

[jdobbs]

Oh I see, but isn't requiring the user to re-encode something you are trying to avoid?

Maybe when the sizing issues are resolved you'll remove them or have an option to remove them? You obviously either didn't read my answer or don't understand it. There IS NO SIZE CONTROL IN CRF!!!!!! CRF is quality based and creates whatever size you need in order to get to the specified quality level. So OVERSIZING HAPPENS whether you like it or not -- even with the best estimating algorithm and it will never "be resolved".

I appreciate your contributions, but this is a silly discussion over something that makes absolutely no difference -- and this is my last post on the subject. Continuing an argument like this gives a person the impression that you are more interested in appearing to be right than listening to the reasoning behind the settings.

End of discussion. Let's go on to something else.

[jdobbs]

While it should be fixed there is a better way to approach interlaced by putting KEEP_INTERLACING=1 in the ini the movement is more fluid even on a progressive TV and the encode is much more efficient and actually 30p is not in the standards neither is 720x576 25p. Please don't suggest this. I put it in to make it possible -- but the statement "more fluid even on a progressive TV" just isn't accurate. Many standalone/high-end monitors show combing pretty much on every interlaced source -- and its annoying as hell. The default is the default because in most cases it works better.
Does it have to do with getting PID? If so that could make pause/resume which has been requested by quite a few before a pretty sticky thing to implement if you were planning on it. Well it would have the same type of bug windows search has, it wouldn't know what process BD-RB is really using. No, I get the PID ok. But when I search the existing windows for a handle that matches what is returned from a call to GetWindowThreadProcessId() in order to capture it for use, it apparently isn't finding a match. So the only alternative is to grab the first X264 window that is available.

Of course that's only an educated guess -- as I've never actually seen it happen on my system.

[MikeyBK]

TSMuxer is detecting overlapped frames and removing the frames, quite a lot. The resulting appended BDMV is having all kinds of crackling audio.... only if a append the seamless branched playlist with TSMuxer, while downconverting the TrueHD to AC3, will the output be stable and run properly through BD-Rebuilder.

This is only on the Bluray Fired Up.... odd.

[setarip_old]

@MikeyBK

Hi!This is only on the Bluray Fired UpWhich version?

[MikeyBK]

@MikeyBK

Hi!Which version?

Either versions of the movie, either playlist loaded into BD-RB will result in the failure to retrieve audio error. The unrated version is simply a playlist with several different m2ts files which makes that version about 50 seconds longer.

[turbojet]

That's what I suspected. It's easy to fix. I've added the --fps switch to X264 in the next version.

This won't fix anything, the x264 devs know about it and so hopefully a fix will be forthcoming. --fps is bit identical for 25, 29.970030, 50, 59.940060 fps currently and when 23.976024 is fixed it should also be bit identical. As far as I know RipBot264 only uses it because avs2yuv always outputs 25 fps without it.

You obviously either didn't read my answer or don't understand it. There IS NO SIZE CONTROL IN CRF!!!!!! CRF is quality based and creates whatever size you need in order to get to the specified quality level. So OVERSIZING HAPPENS whether you like it or not -- even with the best estimating algorithm and it will never "be resolved".

I appreciate your contributions, but this is a silly discussion over something that makes absolutely no difference -- and this is my last post on the subject. Continuing an argument like this gives a person the impression that you are more interested in appearing to be right than listening to the reasoning behind the settings.

End of discussion. Let's go on to something else.

I've been using x264 for about 2 years now and I realize CRF has no sizing control but if what you said about the workflow being add up all CRF extras + everything else to achieve video bitrate (many guis can already obtain this within 5 MB of the target) what reason is there to give an option to do a second pass on the extras like you are insisting?

It seems you are keeping these files for the same reason you always encoded audio which you've now given an option for.

Since very early days of DVD-RB it has hit within 10 MB of target 99% of the time for me and I never remember it having a bunch of files that were never used lying around.

Please don't suggest this. I put it in to make it possible -- but the statement "more fluid even on a progressive TV" just isn't accurate. Many standalone/high-end monitors show combing pretty much on every interlaced source -- and its annoying as hell. The default is the default because in most cases it works better.

I thought you cared about standards, where is 480p, 576p 29.97p in the standards?

We are obviously viewing from different BD players then, interlaced content on retail BD's play just fine on Panasonic BD30 on a samsung LCD TV. In fact Panasonic's don't play 576p for sure and probably not 480p or 29.97p either.

[GaPony]

I don't see you helping your case any... If RipBot works so well for you, why are you messing around with BD_Rebuilder? Maybe just leaving it alone until it matures to a useable level for your needs might be better.

Don't take this as a slam. Simply an observation.

[PurpleMan]

That's what I suspected. It's easy to fix. I've added the --fps switch to X264 in the next version.

What I'm interested in, is whether or not it's an actual problem with our already backed (previously encoded) discs.

I mean, if the backed up BD plays at 23.975, does that mean we have an audio desync?

[kilbowie54]

I'm having problems with the latest version of BD Rebuilder.
Log:
[22:57:10] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: CRANFORD_01
- Input BD size: 13.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:58:16.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:57:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:57:10] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [23:01:47] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[00:41:32]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[00:43:14] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: CRANFORD_01
- Input BD size: 13.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:58:16.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[00:43:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:43:18] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [00:51:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[01:10:04]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[10:31:04] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: CRANFORD_01
- Input BD size: 13.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:58:16.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:31:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:31:06] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[10:32:26] - Failed video encode, aborted

x264.exe stops working every time at "Current Progress 0.50% Overall Progress 0.25%.
I wonder if it's connected to a Windows Vista update ALLOWED? One of the updates was a "Cumulative Update for Media Center for Windows Vista (KB967632)"?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks

[turbojet]

Workaround for the 23.975 fps problem (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1295847#post1295847) until x264 is fixed.

What I'm interested in, is whether or not it's an actual problem with our already backed (previously encoded) discs.

I mean, if the backed up BD plays at 23.975, does that mean we have an audio desync?

Technically yes but it's so small of a change that unless you have a very long clip like 10+ hours you won't notice it.

I'm having problems with the latest version of BD Rebuilder.
Log:
[22:57:10] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: CRANFORD_01
- Input BD size: 13.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:58:16.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[22:57:10] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:57:10] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [23:01:47] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[00:41:32]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[00:43:14] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: CRANFORD_01
- Input BD size: 13.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:58:16.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[00:43:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:43:18] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [00:51:16] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
[01:10:04]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[10:31:04] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: CRANFORD_01
- Input BD size: 13.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:58:16.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:31:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:31:06] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[10:32:26] - Failed video encode, aborted

x264.exe stops working every time at "Current Progress 0.50% Overall Progress 0.25%.
I wonder if it's connected to a Windows Vista update ALLOWED? One of the updates was a "Cumulative Update for Media Center for Windows Vista (KB967632)"?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Try the workarounds for interlaced VC-1 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924). That update shouldn't have any effect.

[PurpleMan]

Technically yes but it's so small of a change that unless you have a very long clip like 10+ hours you won't notice it.


Not exactly true. for a 2 hours movie that would introduce around 35ms of gradual desync. Don't know about you, but I usually notice this and it's annoying :)

[PurpleMan]

Workaround for the 23.975 fps problem (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1295847#post1295847) until x264 is fixed.


Do you know of a workaround to an already encoded h264 stream? Surely there is a way to change the header from 23.975 to 23.976.

Thanks

[kilbowie54]

Thanks for your reply.
I've read through the "workarounds for interlaced VC-1" thread. The file in question is VC-1 1080i so I guess that's the underlying problem?
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to apply the suggested workarounds. I'm not as technically advanced as many of the guys that post on here.
I'm running Vista 32 bit so the Windows 7 workaround doesn't apply. I don't use TMT - my backups are played on a standalone Denon 2500BT.
I looked at the BD-REBUILDER.INI but I can't see where to apply the suggested workaround.
Is there any help that you can give me in simple terms?

Thanks.

[turbojet]

What I'm interested in, is whether or not it's an actual problem with our already backed (previously encoded) discs.

I mean, if the backed up BD plays at 23.975, does that mean we have an audio desync?

You are correct, I was overestimating by quite a bit. It's 27ms for 2 hours if my math is correct
23.976024 - 23.975986 = 0.000038 skew per second
60 seconds x 120 minutes = 7200 seconds
0.000038 * 7200 = 0.2736 seconds

Is that correct?

Thanks for your reply.
I've read through the "workarounds for interlaced VC-1" thread. The file in question is VC-1 1080i so I guess that's the underlying problem?
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to apply the suggested workarounds. I'm not as technically advanced as many of the guys that post on here.
I'm running Vista 32 bit so the Windows 7 workaround doesn't apply. I don't use TMT - my backups are played on a standalone Denon 2500BT.
I looked at the BD-REBUILDER.INI but I can't see where to apply the suggested workaround.
Is there any help that you can give me in simple terms?

Thanks.

If you are targeting BD25 you can open the ini and put in MIN_M2TS=<size in MB just above the m2ts that's failing>

If you are targeting DVD if the problematic m2ts is small you can use the min_m2ts too. If the untouched m2ts would take up significant space you can use this tool (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?exagzvt2xzu) to use windows 7's VC-1 decoder in vista or use powerDVD decoder (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mkyqtmkzmz3).

[turbojet]

Do you know of a workaround to an already encoded h264 stream? Surely there is a way to change the header from 23.975 to 23.976.

Thanks

Ya

- Change the framerate with tsmuxer or mkvmerge or mp4box to something other than 23.976 you get 'changed output'
- Insert 'changed output' into tsmuxer, change fps to 23.976 and output

[PurpleMan]

You are correct, I was overestimating by quite a bit. It's 27ms for 2 hours if my math is correct
23.976024 - 23.975986 = 0.000038 skew per second
60 seconds x 120 minutes = 7200 seconds
0.000038 * 7200 = 0.2736 seconds

Is that correct?


well, according to your calculation, it's not 27ms, it's 270ms.

1 second = 1000 ms
so 0.2736 seconds = 0.2736 * 1000 = 273.6ms

Either way:

1) can we fix an already encoded h264 file to play at 23.976?

2) are you sure that the BD will play at 23.975 on the current state? I mean, 23.975 is out of spec for BD, plus the fact that the m2ts container is flagged as 23.976 (again, because 23.975 is out of spec). So for all we know, a BD player actually plays it as 23.976 even though we feed it as 23.975 for x264.

Your thoughts?

and P.S.
I asked before, but nobody replied. do you know the exact size in bytes that fit on a BD-R 25? is it 25,000,000,000 bytes?
I just want to know when BD-RB gives an undersized/oversized output.

Regards,
-purpleman2k

[turbojet]

well, according to your calculation, it's not 27ms, it's 270ms.

1 second = 1000 ms
so 0.2736 seconds = 0.2736 * 1000 = 273.6ms

I was thinking that too but people would certainly be reporting it if it was.

Either way:

1) can we fix an already encoded h264 file to play at 23.976?

2) are you sure that the BD will play at 23.975 on the current state? I mean, 23.975 is out of spec for BD, plus the fact that the m2ts container is flagged as 23.976 (again, because 23.975 is out of spec). So for all we know, a BD player actually plays it as 23.976 even though we feed it as 23.975 for x264.

Your thoughts?

1) see my previous post

2) since it is so close to 23.976024 players may just play it as 23.976024 which would explain why there's no async. I'm pretty sure 23.975 isn't part of the BD standard, we may just be lucking out that it plays.

and P.S.
I asked before, but nobody replied. do you know the exact size in bytes that fit on a BD-R 25? is it 25,000,000,000 bytes?
I just want to know when BD-RB gives an undersized/oversized output.

Regards,
-purpleman2k

25,025,314,816 bytes according to this (http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11420#ivb)

[PurpleMan]

1) see my previous post


Your previous post (if I understand correctly) only solves the problem for new encodes (by editing the AVS), I'm talking about an already encoded file.


2) since it is so close to 23.976024 players may just play it as 23.976024 which would explain why there's no async. I'm pretty sure 23.975 isn't part of the BD standard, we may just be lucking out that it plays.


I'm not sure of that at all. Like people in the other thread (the x264 one you referred to) said, when you put the raw video in a container (in our case m2ts) and the container is flagged as 23.976, a player will play at that rate, regardless of what is in the raw header. Of course, I have no way to verify this.




25,025,314,816 bytes according to this (http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11420#ivb)

Thank you :)

[turbojet]

Your previous post (if I understand correctly) only solves the problem for new encodes (by editing the AVS), I'm talking about an already encoded file.

this one (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1295903#post1295903)

I'm not sure of that at all. Like people in the other thread (the x264 one you referred to) said, when you put the raw video in a container (in our case m2ts) and the container is flagged as 23.976, a player will play at that rate, regardless of what is in the raw header. Of course, I have no way to verify this.

Ya I don't know either.

Thank you :)

No problem

[kilbowie54]

Hi again.
Installed Windows 7's VC-1 decoder in vista but x246.exe stopped working at 0.40% on the video re-encode. Tried the PowerDVD decoder - same problem at 0.70% this time.
Is this "VC-1 1080i" a problem that's unfixable at present? I have the same build of BD-RB running at present on another quad core PC (Vista 64 bit) working with a VC-1 file that's 1080p and it's doing OK - at 37% and no problems.
Maybe I should just be grateful for what I can get to work!
If anyone's got any other ideas, I'd like to try them anyway.

Thanks again for all your help.

[turbojet]

Hi again.
Installed Windows 7's VC-1 decoder in vista but x246.exe stopped working at 0.40% on the video re-encode. Tried the PowerDVD decoder - same problem at 0.70% this time.
Is this "VC-1 1080i" a problem that's unfixable at present? I have the same build of BD-RB running at present on another quad core PC (Vista 64 bit) working with a VC-1 file that's 1080p and it's doing OK - at 37% and no problems.
Maybe I should just be grateful for what I can get to work!
If anyone's got any other ideas, I'd like to try them anyway.

Thanks again for all your help.

I haven't seen reports of video so far that hasn't worked. Unfortunately no developers are currently working on fixing this issue. ffdshow may in due time. Could you cut a few seconds of where the encoder fails with tsmuxer and uncheck all streams but the video stream, output to m2ts and upload it to a site like mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/)?

Others and I can then help resolve the problem then.

[kilbowie54]

Thanks - I'll work on that. As I said earlier, I'm not that skilled technically and trying to understand codecs can leave me with a headache!
Thanks again.

[jdobbs]

I've been using x264 for about 2 years now and I realize CRF has no sizing control but if what you said about the workflow being add up all CRF extras + everything else to achieve video bitrate (many guis can already obtain this within 5 MB of the target) what reason is there to give an option to do a second pass on the extras like you are insisting?

It seems you are keeping these files for the same reason you always encoded audio which you've now given an option for.

Since very early days of DVD-RB it has hit within 10 MB of target 99% of the time for me and I never remember it having a bunch of files that were never used lying around. I said I wouldn't comment -- but since you can't let anything go...

I tried to explain the reasoning but you're too bullheaded to back off. Bottom line: It's my damn program and I'll do it the way I think best, if you don't like it use something else.

[jdobbs]

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[Capsbackup]

@kilbowie54;
You could try to run the problem .m2ts/.mpls thru tsmuxer and select change frame rate, 24000/0001 and check remove pulldown box and then create a new .m2ts or bluray, if those options are available within tsmuxer. This has worked for me before, but if the source is truly interlaced, this probably will not work.

[jdobbs]

BD-RB already puts the framerate as 23.976 when it muxes with TSMUXER.

[Capsbackup]

BD-RB already puts the framerate as 23.976 when it muxes with TSMUXER.

I was referring to changing the original .m2ts to 23.976fps before using BD-RB on it. I know it is a long shot, but it did work for me on Terminator 3, region A. This troublesome disc had no audio sync from the very beginning and got worse as it played. But after this change, audio sync was perfect and BD-RB reencoded it to BD-5 perfectly.

[turbojet]

I said I wouldn't comment -- but since you can't let anything go...

I tried to explain the reasoning but you're too bullheaded to back off. Bottom line: It's my damn program and I'll do it the way I think best, if you don't like it use something else.

Sigh, you completely misunderstand me.

Anyhow I see you are showing the same type of behavior you showed with encoding audio insisting for months that it must be done, so I'll just let it runs it's course.

I was referring to changing the original .m2ts to 23.976fps before using BD-RB on it. I know it is a long shot, but it did work for me on Terminator 3, region A. This troublesome disc had no audio sync from the very beginning and got worse as it played. But after this change, audio sync was perfect and BD-RB reencoded it to BD-5 perfectly.

Wasn't this also fixable by keeping it interlaced?

[jdobbs]

@turbojet

See my comment in the X264 thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1295847#post1295847).

If X264 is outputing a rate of 23.975986, and my calculations are correct you would be off by one frame (1/24th of a second) every 7.3 hours of contiguously encoded video.

If anybody can detect that, they'd better be wearing a cape.

[kooibosmania]

hi JDobbs

Great work i love ur app

bug Report

on all the movies from startrek the extra's have a trailing m2ts file of 230MB

this m2ts file becomes the first to be reencoded and it fails.
i dont know what this track is but has many audio and subs but is very short ( 0007FFF8 - 00082329 ) i have been struggeling with this.
Maby it is an option to let the user select the faulty m2ts and remove it from the qeue.
but as it is part of an mpls file i dont know if it is possible to implement in ur programming.

i know it is very difficult to programmaticly determine whats what

adding the min m2ts size does not remove this m2ts from qeue

-----------------------
[16:25:20] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: STAR_TREK_III_THE_SEARCH_FOR_SPOCK
- Input BD size: 42,95 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:26:34.144]
- Target BD size: 22,71 GB
[16:25:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:25:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00064]
- [16:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00064 (1 of 13)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00064.meta
[16:25:23] - Failed to build structure, aborted

Thanks and keep up the good work

[Capsbackup]

@turbojet;
Wasn't this also fixable by keeping it interlaced?

No, not by BD-RB. That is why I opened a new thread, to try to see if it would be more noticeable. It was not given much response. Apparently just a rare disc and authoring. Oh well, just trying to present experiences and results, so I just brought it up again in case it might help someone or this topic. :)

[jdobbs]

I was referring to changing the original .m2ts to 23.976fps before using BD-RB on it. I know it is a long shot, but it did work for me on Terminator 3, region A. This troublesome disc had no audio sync from the very beginning and got worse as it played. But after this change, audio sync was perfect and BD-RB reencoded it to BD-5 perfectly. So you're saying that demuxing it first using the fps parameter rather than encoding from the original stream (using the framerate tagged to the stream) actually resulted in a different outcome?

That's just scary.

[Capsbackup]

So you're saying that demuxing it first using the fps parameter rather than encoding from the original stream (using the framerate tagged to the stream) actually resulted in a different outcome?

That's just scary.

That is correct. If your curious, try Terminator 3, Region A.
And from a previous post:http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146884
Maybe rare, but it worked.

[jdobbs]

Hi again.
Installed Windows 7's VC-1 decoder in vista but x246.exe stopped working at 0.40% on the video re-encode. Tried the PowerDVD decoder - same problem at 0.70% this time.
Is this "VC-1 1080i" a problem that's unfixable at present? I have the same build of BD-RB running at present on another quad core PC (Vista 64 bit) working with a VC-1 file that's 1080p and it's doing OK - at 37% and no problems.
Maybe I should just be grateful for what I can get to work!
If anyone's got any other ideas, I'd like to try them anyway.

Thanks again for all your help. This whole hybrid VC-1 source issue is just a pain... unfortunately there is currently no fix for BD-5/9 output, because it has to be reencoded to get the bitrate down to the required level. As for BD-25, I'll look into ways of detecting it so I can automatically just keep it intact (assuming it isn't so large a source stream as to cause space issues).

[Capsbackup]

This whole hybrid VC-1 source issue is just a pain... unfortunately there is currently no fix for BD-5/9 output, because it has to be reencoded to get the bitrate down to the required level. As for BD-25, I'll look into ways of detecting it so I can automatically just keep it intact (assuming it isn't so large a source stream as to cause space issues).

This method would work on Terminator 3, but again, probably a rare disc.

[jdobbs]

Anyhow I see you are showing the same type of behavior you showed with encoding audio insisting for months that it must be done, so I'll just let it runs it's course. Sigh...

You know, between the two of us I think we know just about everything there is to know.

You seem to know everything except that you're wrong -- and I know that.

[jdobbs]

hi JDobbs

Great work i love ur app

bug Report

on all the movies from startrek the extra's have a trailing m2ts file of 230MB

this m2ts file becomes the first to be reencoded and it fails.
i dont know what this track is but has many audio and subs but is very short ( 0007FFF8 - 00082329 ) i have been struggeling with this.
Maby it is an option to let the user select the faulty m2ts and remove it from the qeue.
but as it is part of an mpls file i dont know if it is possible to implement in ur programming.

i know it is very difficult to programmaticly determine whats what

adding the min m2ts size does not remove this m2ts from qeue

-----------------------
[16:25:20] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: STAR_TREK_III_THE_SEARCH_FOR_SPOCK
- Input BD size: 42,95 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:26:34.144]
- Target BD size: 22,71 GB
[16:25:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:25:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00064]
- [16:25:22] Reencoding: VID_00064 (1 of 13)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00064.meta
[16:25:23] - Failed to build structure, aborted

Thanks and keep up the good workCan you post the contents of MUX_00064.meta?

I'll pick up a copy of that disc. I've been meaning to get the BD versions of the STAR TREK movies anyway.

[turbojet]

Sigh...

You know, between the two of us I think we know just about everything there is to know.

You seem to know everything except that you're wrong -- and I know that.

You must know mostly everything then as I've never claimed to know much. When I am wrong I can and do admit it.

Since you already stated that the .stats files are pretty much worthless you are basically arguing with yourself.

Anyhow you have tested my patience long enough and since I'm wrong all the time I'll get rid of all the 'wrong' info I provided to support BD-RB unless things change.

In the mean time can you give me some ideas of other tools to mess with that create a bunch of useless files?

I kind of regret the $260 I've contributed to DVD-RB / BD-RB over the years. But oh well I've probably gotten my money's worth from the programs just wasn't expecting support to get as disrespectful as it has been over the past couple of months.

[jdobbs]

You are very possibly the most dense person I have ever encountered. Useless files -- can you not read????

You have a lot to learn about disrespect. Frankly, I'm tired of your attitude. I appreciate any bug reports -- but when someone starts telling me how to write my own programs, makes rude remarks, and refuses to accept decisions that are quite clearly mine to make -- I don't need him around.

Don't go away mad. Just go away.

BTW... $260 is far more than the entire amount I've received in BD-RB donations since I first posted it back in December -- and I've put hundreds of hours into it -- so trying to guilt me about money is far from effective. It obviously isn't the driver for my efforts.

[michael1971]

BTW... $260 is far more than the entire amount I've received in BD-RB donations since I first posted it back in December -- and I've put hundreds of hours into it -- so trying to guilt me about money is far from effective. It obviously isn't the driver for my efforts.

;)your application is so powerful that I just donate you twice.
Another big thank you for bd-rb!
Excuse my bad english ;)
Michael

[jdobbs]

Thanks. You're a generous man. I'll do my best to make sure you get your money's worth.

[MILLZY]

You are very possibly the most dense person I have ever encountered. Useless files -- can you not read????

You have a lot to learn about disrespect. Frankly, I'm tired of your attitude. I appreciate any bug reports -- but when someone starts telling me how to write my own programs, makes rude remarks, and refuses to accept decisions that are quite clearly mine to make -- I don't need him around.

Don't go away mad. Just go away

Well Said M8.............:goodpost:

[turbojet]

You are very possibly the most dense person I have ever encountered. Useless files -- can you not read????

You have a lot to learn about disrespect. Frankly, I'm tired of your attitude. I appreciate any bug reports -- but when someone starts telling me how to write my own programs, makes rude remarks, and refuses to accept decisions that are quite clearly mine to make -- I don't need him around.

Don't go away mad. Just go away.

Nice example you are setting for the rest of the forum, isn't personal attacks against the forum rules or are you above that?

The .stats files I asked for an option to remove ARE NOT USED AND YOU KNOW THAT. Surprisingly the option to delete all files that are used you accepted (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1296039#post1296039) within hours of you calling me completely wrong and the densest person you know, it all makes sense to me now. Unlike every bug/feature request I've brought up over the past few months you replied the first time it was asked, you didn't ask a bunch of questions or try to prove him wrong. I took this as disrespectful, and I've noticed others have the same experiences. While I at times get frustrated about it I don't stoop to attacking people like you have chosen to do.

BTW... $260 is far more than the entire amount I've received in BD-RB donations since I first posted it back in December -- and I've put hundreds of hours into it -- so trying to guilt me about money is far from effective. It obviously isn't the driver for my efforts.

Frankly I'm not surprised the way you have been treating others lately. Making you feel guilty was not my intent at all, it was to show potential customers that although you may get treated well don't be surprised if that changes. OTOH you may make some people feel guilty for not contributing. While I was wrong to write how much I've contributed it was in the heat of the moment.

This is my last post involving BD-RB on this forum unless the tone changes. It can go one of two ways.

[jdobbs]

I told you why the files are there. It's because they save a lot of time in the case of oversizing when using CRF. Do I have to repeat it over-and-over at the expense of all the other members who are probably as tired of this discussion as I am? If that simple reason isn't enough then "dense" is an understatement. The link you reference has absolutely nothing to do with this discusssion. It was a request to remove the entire working directory automatically after encoding is completed.

You keep droning on wanting desperately to be perceived as being "right" -- it's really not very becoming.

[MikeyBK]

@turbojet...
Bro, if you aren't happy with how much JD has evolved BD-Rebuilder to this point, then just go use RipBot, and pester Atak. I truly feel that you aren't helping the progress of Bd-Rebuilder, more so hindering it with nonstop rants about why BD-REebuilder should bend over backwards so that you can get your Panasonic to work right.
As I've mentioned before, I liked some of what you input, but now it's just plain contempt... just let it go and move on... one way or another.

@JDobbs...
I know that I speak for 99% of the users of BD-Rebuilder when I say that we genuinely appreciate you and this great program. We all also basically understand that it's still in Beta, and that you, as the author, has far more knowledge to implement whatever changes you deem helpful or productive to the ongoing progress of BD-RB...
So again we all thank you for your efforts.:thanks:

To get back on topic in this thread...
As I posted earlier, I had the 'Failed to retrieve audio' error for the first time, when trying to do a movie-only of Fired Up. I tried all possible settings to try and get it to work in BD-RB to no avail.
Only when I pre-processed Fired up through TSMuxer was I able to run it thru BD-RB.

This title is a multiple m2ts seamlessly branched Bluray, MPEG-4 AVC, which I appended with TSMuxer.
While running it thru TSMuxer, I get the following warnings.
I was just wondering if you had an idea as to what might have caused this??

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.1(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding TRUE-HD stream (track 2): AC3 core+TRUE-HD. Peak bitrate: 4140Kbps (core 640Kbps) Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:01:03,136. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:05:55,552. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:07:35,552. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:09:08,032. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:11:25,216. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:12:09,504. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:21:03,584. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:24:40,576. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:25:48,991. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:31:47,743. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:32:39,135. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:36:48,512. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:42:38,239. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 00:49:44,032. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 01:01:11,840. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 01:05:03,552. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 01:08:07,072. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 01:22:09,119. Remove frame.
TRUE-HD stream (track 2): overlapped frame detected at position 01:22:32,640. Remove frame.
Processed 129408 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 11 min 1 sec

[jdobbs]

Odd indeed. Are there 19 parts to the appended input stream? I really don't have any idea... but I'm wondering if the last TRUE-HD audio frame of each stream may be extending into the first frame of the following (appended) stream -- causing the overlap.

[jdobbs]

That is correct. If your curious, try Terminator 3, Region A.
And from a previous post:http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146884
Maybe rare, but it worked. I will. Sorry for not responding to that thread -- but it became filled with rude comments and pseudo-expert opinions (not from you) so I decided to steer clear.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

Regarding (not) having to defend/explain yourself:

I must say that, in addition to your wonderful skills at program development, if nothing else, you're the most tolerant MODERATOR I've ever come across!

Without mentioning names, I'm sure you know as well as I, that there are other moderators that would have "climbed all over" "turbojet" quite some time ago.

Therefore, I'd like to take this opportunity to unofficially welcome you as a member of my unofficial "Thick Skin Club" ;>}

[jdobbs]

:) Well, there're some who might disagree. But it is much appreciated. I'll accept membership with pride.

[MikeyBK]

Odd indeed. Are there 19 parts to the appended input stream? I really don't have any idea... but I'm wondering if the last TRUE-HD audio frame of each stream may be extending into the first frame of the following (appended) stream -- causing the overlap.

There are actually 43 m2ts files that make up that main movie playlist, so why the 19 frames dropped is what I was curious about. Guess this is one of those oddball authorings, like The Secret Life of Bees was with the two completely different English HD audio streams for each of two versions of the movie.

Anyways, the TSMuxer appended BD went fine through BD-RB 0.22.02, and the resulting BD-9 looks incredible... no audio sync issues, nor any video gliches...absolutely perfect.

As I mentioned, this is the only time I've recieved that failure to retrieve audio error... so I'll chalk it up as an exception and not a rule...Thanks.

[sype]

If im doing a movie only back up to a dvd9, should the output folder contain a CERTIFICATE folder or not.
All of my previous backups worked fine with a CERTIFICATE folder. the latest version does not make a CERTIFICATE folder.
sorry if this has been answered before there's too many pages to read through.

[jdobbs]

Generally for movie-only it should not. Most players will play it fine with or without, but I have been told there are some that look for the CERTIFICATE and will not play AVCHD if it exists. I'm not aware of any that require it for movie-only.

[GaPony]

If im doing a movie only back up to a dvd9, should the output folder contain a CERTIFICATE folder or not.
All of my previous backups worked fine with a CERTIFICATE folder. the latest version does not make a CERTIFICATE folder.
sorry if this has been answered before there's too many pages to read through.

There are a few other "quirks" to look for, depending on your player. If you plan on burning the Movie Only to a BD9/BD5 you should read through this thread... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674.

[user822]

Hi Doomer's!

Really Great Software!!! Thanks to jdobbs!!

Greetigns
user

[kilbowie54]

Regarding movie only backups on DVD9, I'm afraid that my Denon 2500BT will only play these if the full Blu-ray structure is there. I have to manually add the missing folders e.g. CERTIFICATE once the BD rebuild has completed. I have to do the same with AVCHDs authored from my Sony HD camcorder using Nero. Pinnacle 12 Ultimate, however, makes AVCHDs that contain the full Blu-ray structure and these play fine on the Denon.
I have an older Sony BDP-S300 that will play more or less any disc I load.

[hoju3508]

If enabled, ImgBurn creates the missing CERTIFICATE folder for you.



LIGHTNING UK!
Nov 18 2008, 10:26 AM
If the certificate folder was in the source list then it would have been added to the compilation 'as-is' (i.e. it would include all the files that were in it).

If it wasn't, ImgBurn adds one (and its sub folder), but it will of course just be empty.

Do you have any settings enabled that could be making it ignore the files in the cert folder?

Get me a screenshot of the main window when the 'Options' tab is visible please.


Regarding movie only backups on DVD9, I'm afraid that my Denon 2500BT will only play these if the full Blu-ray structure is there. I have to manually add the missing folders e.g. CERTIFICATE once the BD rebuild has completed. I have to do the same with AVCHDs authored from my Sony HD camcorder using Nero. Pinnacle 12 Ultimate, however, makes AVCHDs that contain the full Blu-ray structure and these play fine on the Denon.
I have an older Sony BDP-S300 that will play more or less any disc I load.

[deank]

If enabled, ImgBurn creates the missing CERTIFICATE folder for you.

It does, actually (also with checking AUDIO_TS in 2.4.2.x versions), but it may break playability in some players.

Because there is no accepted standard and rules for Blu-ray content (among hardware manufacturers) when content is written to DVD5/DVD9 (also called BD5/BD9), I believe it is better for everyone to do a simple test and see what works for their players.

There are 100's of brands and 1000's of models and all handle DVD media with BD/AVCHD content differently.

I think it is not a good idea to request any folder presence or absence in BD-RB's movie only output (for BD5/BD9).

Also, having ImgBurn adding folders (by default) when they're not wanted is another issue. I asked ImgBurn's author to remove this 'feature', because it is always better to be sure that your DVD/BD-R disc will contain only the folders you added. There is no need of AI :) when it comes to this.

Dean

[spida_singh]

Just to let you know, I also had the stuck at 50% problem with both passes including muxing.

Windows 7 RC1 X64
x264 that came with build 22.02
It's my first disc with this build
INI:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=10150
TARGET_SIZE=10150
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\TRANSFORMERS\TRANSFORMERS_D1_EU\
WORKING_PATH=I:\TRANSFORMERS\BDREBUILDER\

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1299/bdrebuilder.jpg

[MILLZY]

I have just tried to load in the mummy 3 tomb of the dragon emperor on version 22.02 on full backup and i am recieving this error (the selected path length exceeds current limits. cannot process)The size of the disk is 45.8 GB any ideas?:confused:

[jdobbs]

That is correct. If your curious, try Terminator 3, Region A.
And from a previous post:http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146884
Maybe rare, but it worked. Just to let you know, I worked this today and got the desync also. The problem seems to be that the stream is flagged as VC-1 @ 23.976 (according to TSMUXER) -- but the CLPI says 29.97.... it's because of the pulldown.

I should be able to make some determinations as to whether it is 23.976 pulldown and correct for it.

Just as a point of reference... WMP also plays that stream off the original commercial disc out-of-sync. Apparently it ignores pulldown as well (which explains why the frame serving only created enough frames for 23.976).

[drmih]

I have just tried to load in the mummy 3 tomb of the dragon emperor on version 22.02 on full backup and i am recieving this error (the selected path length exceeds current limits. cannot process)The size of the disk is 45.8 GB any ideas?:confused:

Perhaps the path length is too long!!!

Make a new directory mummy3 in the root and copy all of the sub-directories (e.g BMDV, Certificate etc) to it then try again.

[jdobbs]

I have just tried to load in the mummy 3 tomb of the dragon emperor on version 22.02 on full backup and i am recieving this error (the selected path length exceeds current limits. cannot process)The size of the disk is 45.8 GB any ideas?:confused: The place you placed either the source or the working directory is too far down in your file structure, and it has hit the path-length limit for one of the calls I'm making. Move the folder up (shorten the path) and it should work.

That's one of those things I've been meaning to correct (by using a newer call) but have never gotten around to it (because it so rarely happens).

[edit] Guess I'm too slow on the trigger. drmih beat me to the answer.

[MILLZY]

Sorted,Thanks very much guys:thanks:

[MILLZY]

just got a x264 appcrash. x264.exe has stopped working here is the details.

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: x264.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4a1eb070
Fault Module Name: wmvdecod.dll
Fault Module Version: 11.0.6001.7000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a820
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000cdf7d
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

[Dark Shikari]

just got a x264 appcrash. x264.exe has stopped working here is the details.

Fault Module Name: wmvdecod.dllI'm pretty sure that's not x264 ;)

[MILLZY]

Any ideas?

[kanerulz69]

jdobbs? will there ever be a resume / pause from the last current progress / overall progress available in the future?

and i love the program best ive used, so far only stable version for me is 20.09

[drmih]

Any ideas?

If you're still trying to do the mummy3 then there are two of the large extra files which crash x264 - I should have mentioned it when you were struggling with the file length. I did it by using turbojets solution - I prefer the arcsoft method to avoid resizing.

[drmih]

I'm pretty sure that's not x264 ;)

There are two vc1 extra files which x264 can't handle.

[MILLZY]

Could you point me in the right direction for the solution as there are to many posts.And yes i was still trying to do the mummy 3.
Thanks.:)

[DrKajun]

just got a x264 appcrash. x264.exe has stopped working here is the details.

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: x264.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4a1eb070
Fault Module Name: wmvdecod.dll
Fault Module Version: 11.0.6001.7000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a820
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000cdf7d
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

Bumb deal, I got the same error on some thing else.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: x264.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4a1eb070
Fault Module Name: wmvdecod.dll
Fault Module Version: 11.0.6001.7000
Fault Module Timestamp: 4791a820
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0006ec48
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

[drmih]

Could you point me in the right direction for the solution as there are to many posts.And yes i was still trying to do the mummy 3.
Thanks.:)

It's all in the thread:

"BD-RB: Workarounds for 'reached retry limit. Aborting' error"

The first post has all the links and a description by turbojet.

**If you are going to bd-25, and you're not experienced with filters etc, just use "MIN_M2TS=****" in the config and set it to the size of the largest extra file - I think it's about 2100 and the results look perfect on the movie.

[Capsbackup]

Just to let you know, I worked this today and got the desync also. The problem seems to be that the stream is flagged as VC-1 @ 23.976 (according to TSMUXER) -- but the CLPI says 29.97.... it's because of the pulldown.

I should be able to make some determinations as to whether it is 23.976 pulldown and correct for it.

Just as a point of reference... WMP also plays that stream off the original commercial disc out-of-sync. Apparently it ignores pulldown as well (which explains why the frame serving only created enough frames for 23.976).


Thanks for checking this one out, it was challenging! Though I never tried WMP on the original, I did try PowerDVD and it played it in sync.
My retail disc has two main movie streams, one that is just the main movie, 00001.mpls/ 00001.m2ts, and the other is the main movie with directors comments and a pop up window with the director and actors video/commentaries, 00002.mpls/ 00002.m2ts. ( In-Movie Experience)
BDInfo and tsMuxer both show 00001.mpls as VC-1, 1920:1080i, 29.97(pulldown).
00002.mpls is VC-1,1920:1080p, 23.976.
00001.m2ts is 13GB, and 00002.m2ts is 14.3GB. For a disc of this type structure, to be able to only reencode the 00002.m2ts to a size that would allow a BD-25 backup would be ideal. I was unable to do this with MIN_M2TS_*** because BD-RB would not allow it.
I am curious if your version is the same or perhaps a different version, which could explain the different type of stream viewed with tsMuxer and BDInfo. Mine is Region A.

EDIT: I tried MPC on the original 00001.m2ts and it plays in sync!

[GaPony]

Regarding movie only backups on DVD9, I'm afraid that my Denon 2500BT will only play these if the full Blu-ray structure is there. I have to manually add the missing folders e.g. CERTIFICATE once the BD rebuild has completed. I have to do the same with AVCHDs authored from my Sony HD camcorder using Nero. Pinnacle 12 Ultimate, however, makes AVCHDs that contain the full Blu-ray structure and these play fine on the Denon.
I have an older Sony BDP-S300 that will play more or less any disc I load.

Use ImgBurn to burn the disc. Check the block to "add the certificate folder for Blu-Ray" and you should be good to go. :)

If you don't check the block for "Stricter AVCHD compliance..." I thought it left the auxdata and certificate (among others) in place too.

[datman]

I have been seeing a few pixelation defects in every backup that I have watched using 22.01 & 22.02, may have been doing with every version. I haven’t been looking for it. They are very short and toward the end of the film only a few frames and the audio is unaffected.

My setup is Movie only, to a BD-25 target the slowest speed, keeping the HD audio

It’s a very small defect and may only happen when saving to a BD-25 target. I can live with it for backups.

Has anyone else seen this?

[Capsbackup]

@datman;
My movie only backups have been to BD-5, and all have been perfect, never a single glitch. My BD-25 have been full movie backups, and those have been perfect as well. Are you talking about burned to media or played back on a pc problems? I burn to Verbatim DVD-R media and use Sony BD-RE and Ridata BD-R media and play back on a Sony BDP-BX1, and I have never noticed pixelation problems. I don't really watch the entire movie on my pc, just scan it for audio sync and playback checking before burning to disc.

[MILLZY]

It's all in the thread:

"BD-RB: Workarounds for 'reached retry limit. Aborting' error"

The first post has all the links and a description by turbojet.

**If you are going to bd-25, and you're not experienced with filters etc, just use "MIN_M2TS=****" in the config and set it to the size of the largest extra file - I think it's about 2100 and the results look perfect on the movie.


Sorry to be a noob which file do i download?

[datman]

@datman;
My movie only backups have been to BD-5, and all have been perfect, never a single glitch. My BD-25 have been full movie backups, and those have been perfect as well. Are you talking about burned to media or played back on a pc problems? I burn to Verbatim DVD-R media and use Sony BD-RE and Ridata BD-R media and play back on a Sony BDP-BX1, and I have never noticed pixelation problems. I don't really watch the entire movie on my pc, just scan it for audio sync and playback checking before burning to disc.


I only watch from my HTPC, I do not burn anything yet!! I got used to the HTPC I love it.

The defect is in the encoded film and I can stepped forward and you can see the defected frames, so if I burned it I'm sure it would also be on the disc.


edit: I never remember seeing these defects before. As I said before it's on every BD-25, I did watch one BD-9 last week and I don't think I saw it. I'm going to have to see if any of those (BD-9) have it

[drmih]

Sorry to be a noob which file do i download?

The links to the files are highlighted in the text in the first post. If you have TMT2 installed, download the update patch and the filter tweak, otherwise if you have powerdvd use that although as stated it does resize to 740x480.

Seeing the questions you've asked I really would go for the bd-25 route and use the minimum file size as it's a simple and perfect solution.

[laserfan]

The defect is in the encoded film...I never remember seeing these defects before.What might you have done with your PC that is different lately? FWIW I used to have occasional glitching just as you've described, but after I switched to neuron2's NV tools (whereby indexing & decoding are done via his sw and nvidia card) I have no further random glitches.

So my GUESS would be that you are suffering decoding problems (which of course are then encoded by x264 into your video). I'd look real hard at which programs have glitched, what codec they use (VC1/264/MPEG2) and how your PC is decoding each of these (for presentation to the x264 encoder).

[jdobbs]

jdobbs? will there ever be a resume / pause from the last current progress / overall progress available in the future?

and i love the program best ive used, so far only stable version for me is 20.09 If its not stable -- explain how?

[DrKajun]

Question: Started an encode and it field so I made some changes and resumed. Did this a few times but now I dont get the questing to resume, only to delete WORK files. How does BDR determine when to resume? What did I change that will not allow it?

Thanks.

[Tongariro]

I have two problematic Movie that i cant seems to make them work with the BD-RB.
One is the Incredible Hulk and the second is Starship-Troopers (us versions).
Both movies are successfully done by the BD-RB but i cant play them on any player.
The Hulk i can see the Menu but the move gets the player stuck (I need to power down the player or kill task on the power dvd).
The starship toppers stop after i put the disk in immediately on every player but works O.K on the computer.

After lots of successful copies (great application Jdobbs) those are my only problems.
Is anyone had the same problem?

[datman]

What might you have done with your PC that is different lately? FWIW I used to have occasional glitching just as you've described, but after I switched to neuron2's NV tools (whereby indexing & decoding are done via his sw and nvidia card) I have no further random glitches.

So my GUESS would be that you are suffering decoding problems (which of course are then encoded by x264 into your video). I'd look real hard at which programs have glitched, what codec they use (VC1/264/MPEG2) and how your PC is decoding each of these (for presentation to the x264 encoder).

Thanks for the heads up That might be it. I removed 2 programs MakeMKV and smartshopper. I have not changed anything and this computer is never (rarely) on the internet but perhaps that was it.

[GaPony]

Question: Started an encode and it field so I made some changes and resumed. Did this a few times but now I dont get the questing to resume, only to delete WORK files. How does BDR determine when to resume? What did I change that will not allow it?

Thanks.

My guess is that when you made the changes, it changed the commands used by BD-Rebuilder... so you had to start over.... or maybe you weren't at a point that it could resume.

[mouw]

I have to manually add the missing folders e.g. CERTIFICATE once the BD rebuild has completed.

edit BDRebuilder.INI file
CONFIG SETTINGS-- under Options

FORCE_BLURAY=1

[jdobbs]

Question: Started an encode and it field so I made some changes and resumed. Did this a few times but now I dont get the questing to resume, only to delete WORK files. How does BDR determine when to resume? What did I change that will not allow it?

Thanks. It will resume as long as you haven't changed any of the settings.

[kanerulz69]

If its not stable -- explain how?

meaning that the progress bar jus gets stuck on version 2201 & 2202 so i went back to 09, i had to open up 2209 and resume where it froze and got stuck

[MikeyBK]

meaning that the progress bar jus gets stuck on version 2201 & 2202 so i went back to 09, i had to open up 2209 and resume where it froze and got stuck

But if you thoroughly read the thread about that issue, you'd have found out that it is only a cosmetic issue and that the encoding 'does' complete successfully if you let it run. X264 is still encoding even thought the progress bar doesn't reflect that.

[kanerulz69]

But if you thoroughly read the thread about that issue, you'd have found out that it is only a cosmetic issue and that the encoding 'does' complete successfully if you let it run. X264 is still encoding even thought the progress bar doesn't reflect that.

i even clicked on the working folder (right click properties) just to see after like 10min if the progress was still doing anything and the file size was still the same it didnt even change any

[MikeyBK]

i even clicked on the working folder (right click properties) just to see after like 10min if the progress was still doing anything and the file size was still the same it didnt even change any

A better way to verify that x264 is still actually encoding would be to use something like RealTemp or CoreTemp and it'll show that your cores are all spiking.

We've all verified that even though it appears stuck on the GUI, the encoding does continue in the background.

Or even better yet, as JDobbs himself suggested, enter the parameter 'SHOW_ENCODER=1' into the INI file, and it will show x264 encoding.

[kanerulz69]

A better way to verify that x264 is still actually encoding would be to use something like RealTemp or CoreTemp and it'll show that your cores are all spiking.

We've all verified that even though it appears stuck on the GUI, the encoding does continue in the background.

Or even better yet, as JDobbs himself suggested, enter the parameter 'SHOW_ENCODER=1' into the INI file, and it will show x264 encoding.

thats fine and all but since .09 works the best for me and i enjoy seeing the progress bar as its going so i know when its going 2 be finished i'll stick to that til a different layout of the program with pause / resume etc is created, still i love the program and will continue to try all the versions that come out just in case

[MikeyBK]

thats fine and all but since .09 works the best for me and i enjoy seeing the progress bar as its going so i know when its going 2 be finished i'll stick to that til a different layout of the program with pause / resume etc is created, still i love the program and will continue to try all the versions that come out just in case

No worries Bro, it's your prerogative....
however... it doesn't really help JD as much as if you'd use the latest Beta just in case you might come across some other 'bug' that might be specific to your PC configuration.
He's basically pretty much asked that all users use the latest Beta, unless there is a complete instability.... which there really isn't in v0.22.02.

[Furiousflea]

Thought I'd report back my findings with using the hidden keep interlaced option set to "1".

Have found no problems at all with this on 5-6 discs. Plays without issue at all on my Sony BDP-S550. For me I consider it the "default" to use.

[user822]

having some problems with "Batman Begins"

Resize to 720p does not work

EDIT: It works with oder Movies and i fixed it by editing the .avs file manually(afer killing x264 with the 1080p settings it said "encode failed, retry" and then it started again using the edited avs file)

[jdobbs]

i even clicked on the working folder (right click properties) just to see after like 10min if the progress was still doing anything and the file size was still the same it didnt even change any That's not a good check. It won't change until the file is closed.

[jdobbs]

A better way to verify that x264 is still actually encoding would be to use something like RealTemp or CoreTemp and it'll show that your cores are all spiking.

We've all verified that even though it appears stuck on the GUI, the encoding does continue in the background.

Or even better yet, as JDobbs himself suggested, enter the parameter 'SHOW_ENCODER=1' into the INI file, and it will show x264 encoding.

I think I have the issue fixed anyway (I can't be sure since it never happens to me) -- I'll post a new version later today.

[jdobbs]

having some problems with "Batman Begins"

Resize to 720p does not work

EDIT: It works with oder Movies and i fixed it by editing the .avs file manually Doesn't work how? It doesn't playback, fails, hits an error, or just doesn't resize?

[user822]

Doesn't work how? It doesn't playback, fails, hits an error, or just doesn't resize?

it keeps 1080p(main movie) perhaps because it "thinks" it is a menu or something

i edited my original post how i fixed it:

EDIT: It works with oder Movies and i fixed it by editing the .avs file manually(afer killing x264 with the 1080p settings it said "encode failed, retry" and then it started again using the edited avs file). I added LanczosResize(1280,720) myself(hope it does not make any problems later)

[leChameleon]

I wanted to see if anyone else is experiencing increased run times and memory consumption in 0.22.02 ?

Most rebuilds use to take around 10 hours, sometimes 12 hours on a Intel i7 Core 940, 12GB RAM, 6TB HDD running Windows 7 64-bit.

I'm running DEFIANCE 2008, Region A now and it's consumed 9.47GB of RAM @ 40.87% overall progress.

[23:41:20] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: DEFIANCE
- Input BD size: 43.95 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:10:09.064]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6720/perfb.jpghttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5967/pros.jpg

I suspect it's not BD-RB but rather a different version of x264 that may be causing it.

[leChameleon]

Removed...

[user822]

my blu ray with the changed avs did not work

maybe not because of resize but because of other problems(powerdvd also didnt play it)

anyway i ordnered the blu ray on amazon *gg*

[Furiousflea]

I wanted to see if anyone else is experiencing increased run times and memory consumption in 0.22.02 ?

Most rebuilds use to take around 10 hours, sometimes 12 hours on a Intel i7 Core 940, 12GB RAM, 6TB HDD running Windows 7 64-bit.

I'm running DEFIANCE 2008, Region A now and it's consumed 9.47GB of RAM @ 40.87% overall progress.

[23:41:20] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: DEFIANCE
- Input BD size: 43.95 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:10:09.064]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6720/perfb.jpghttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5967/pros.jpg

I suspect it's not BD-RB but rather a different version of x264 that may be causing it.

You sure it's bdrb\x264. Can see your uptime is a good few days. Try a restart, maybe you've got some spyware\dodgy webpage thats loaded something and is eating all the memory. Worth a check anyways.

[setarip_old]

@user822

Hi!anyway i ordnered the blu ray on amazonWhat will you gain by purchasing a second BluRay disc of "Batman Begins"? You'll still be confronted with trying to downconvert from 1080p to 720p...

[leChameleon]

You sure it's bdrb\x264. Can see your uptime is a good few days. Try a restart, maybe you've got some spyware\dodgy webpage thats loaded something and is eating all the memory. Worth a check anyways. Up time has nothing to do with it. I've checked this behavior over the past week, and have seen similar behavior.

What it appears to me is that x264 keeps incrementing memory and is not releasing it. Currently the same job is now over 10GB of RAM and 1,420KB of memory with a CPU time of almost 6 hours. If you look at the swap, why would it ever get so high?

Second the only thing that is running on this machine is BD-RB and me accessing this web page only, other than the default page GOOGLE.com when it invokes.

I've been monitoring memory usage over the past week and there are no other apps consuming memory and the disk space in other areas remains constant accept for the swap space and where BD-RB is working.

At the time x264 is finished reencoding one section the memory space is never released. Once another job is launched it continues to increment. Once x264 exits and starts another job the RAM should be released and the page file flushed.

[GaPony]

No such problems with my PC...

[jdobbs]

Mine is working correctly also.

[SurroundBoy]

Can anyone here source out my issue? Trying to re-encode to BD-5, I use 720p and it fails while extracting audio. If I turn off the 720p and just have it do 1080p, it continues fine. Whats the problem here with switching 720p on and off?

[drmih]

I thought I was imagining it but mine is also much slower. I started an encode but after an hour realised I had a setting wrong and broke it, change the setting and then restarted (without ever leaving bd-rb). The latest version of bd-rb has been fine so think it must have been doing the above. As soon as the encode finishes I will reboot and am sure that will sort it out.

[bassnut]

no issues with my system either. I'm Running ...

AMD Phenom Quad 940 with 4 Gig Kingston HyperX ram

Running like a charm at about 50% memory ussage and the processors at 75 - 80 % first pass and lit for the second pass. 4 - 5 hours BD9 and about 8-10 for BD25

[Groucho2004]

I believe the default priority for x264 has changed in the last build to idle.

So, whatever you have running besides x264 (virus scanner, etc) will take processor cycles away especially if the priority is higher than idle.

This might explain the slower encodes reported by some people.

[jdobbs]

I believe the default priority for x264 has changed in the last build to idle.

So, whatever you have running besides x264 (virus scanner, etc) will take processor cycles away especially if the priority is higher than idle.

This might explain the slower encodes reported by some people.Definitely. With older versions NORMAL priority was the default, but the INI that way included in the ZIP file had IDLE set. I stopped shipping an INI in the package, so the default started coming through. In the last release I changed the DEFAULT to IDLE. IDLE will run just as fast as NORMAL when the system is not being used, but when you start running other programs they will have a higher priority and could slow down BD-RB.

[user822]

@user822

Hi!What will you gain by purchasing a second BluRay disc of "Batman Begins"? You'll still be confronted with trying to downconvert from 1080p to 720p...

the first one was a iso file and i dont have a bd burner

[woodman]

Hi, just backed up Chronicles Of Riddick to BD25 (full backup) and the film jerks about every second, apart from that it plays fine, sound ok. Anyone got any idea whats wrong. Thanks

[setarip_old]

@user822the first one was a iso file and i dont have a bd burner

This thread is for reporting BD-RB bugs that arise from a process starting with a commercial disc as the initial source.

It's grossly unfair to waste the time of the author "jdobbs", by asking him to resolve problems that you're having with "other than original" source material (and, if that's the case, it's also a violation of the rules of the Doom9 Forums)...

[Wolfe999]

As of v0.22.02 the "problem" of the 50% freezing still continues. Yeah, I click abort and then backup and resumes, but anyway I think it still is a bug. Never happened/happens with v0.21.01. It seems it began with 0.22. My PC is the same, as I only do encodes in it and haven installed anything new since then. As you say, hope you have it fixed with the new version.

regards and thanx again :)

[datman]

I have been seeing a few pixelation defects in every backup that I have watched using 22.01 & 22.02, may have been doing with every version. I haven’t been looking for it. They are very short and toward the end of the film only a few frames and the audio is unaffected.

My setup is Movie only, to a BD-25 target the slowest speed, keeping the HD audio

It’s a very small defect and may only happen when saving to a BD-25 target. I can live with it for backups.

Has anyone else seen this?

Thanks for the heads up That might be it. I removed 2 programs MakeMKV and smartshopper. I have not changed anything and this computer is never (rarely) on the internet but perhaps that was it.

I played 22.02 encodes films that were movie only to a BD-9 and full movie to a BD-25 and had no pixelation, as far as I saw.

[GaPony]

You definitely don't need the highest quality (slowest) setting for copying to a BD25 disc... its really alot of overkill. In fact, the good quality (fast) setting gives excellant results for BD25 copies. I usually use the high quality setting, but its more from pathological reasoning than any real quality improvement.

[YolkiePolkie]

I'm also getting the freezing at 50% with v0.22.02. It worked for the first disc I encoded no problems, but for the next 2 it has frozen. Have rebooted between encodes. Any advice appreciated.

[MikeyBK]

I'm also getting the freezing at 50% with v0.22.02. It worked for the first disc I encoded no problems, but for the next 2 it has frozen. Have rebooted between encodes. Any advice appreciated.

Read back a few pages and you'll see that it is merely a cosmetic bug, and not the encoding failing...
The project will complete successfully even though it appears stuck in the GUI.

Has been talked about ever since v0.22.01 & v0.22.02 was released... so no need to reboot or abort... let it just finish and 'it will' :)

[deank]

Is it possible that some recent Windows (XP/Vista) update caused this problem with '50%' erroneous display? Just a thought.

[YolkiePolkie]

Read back a few pages and you'll see that it is merely a cosmetic bug, and not the encoding failing...
The project will complete successfully even though it appears stuck in the GUI.

Has been talked about ever since v0.22.01 & v0.22.02 was released... so no need to reboot or abort... let it just finish and 'it will' :)


Thanks very much for the info. Have been off the scene for around 2 months and so have not been able to keep up to date. Keep it Mencap.

[Mr. Movies]

Is it possible that some recent Windows (XP/Vista) update caused this problem with '50%' erroneous display? Just a thought.

I don't think it is an update as I've not updated my machine but it does it now that I've upgraded from 20.08 to the current version, something else is going on.

I've had pretty good luck with BD-RB especially since I VC-1 fixed my setup but now I'm having audio sync issues for the first disc of the 3 disc set of Firefly. The funny thing is all short (normal) episodes sync fine it is only the first episode that gets out of sync. It plays fine for the first 8 minutes and then the lip sync is off by almost 4 seconds. All following episodes are fine. I've tried x264 and FFMPEG but the problem remains the same.

The first M2TS is the openning episode and is 16.9GB uncompressed, but comes out to 8.33GB compressed for "00001.m2ts". The original file plays fine of course. There might be some dead space between the opening of the audio track and when the episode would come back from commercial. When encoding videos manually I've had problems with that so I wonder if that could be the cause here?

BDREBUILDER.INI
Last Settings with no re-encode audio & using x264
[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
RESIZE=0
ENCODER=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22450
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\MOVIES\BD\FIREFLYUS_D1\
WORKING_PATH=E:\MOVIES\TEMP\

Normal settings using FFMPEG
[Options]
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
RESIZE=0
ENCODER=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22450
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\MOVIES\BD\FIREFLYUS_D1\
WORKING_PATH=E:\MOVIES\TEMP\


I do have TMT 2.6.119 installed and have the VC-1 reg hack to fix not being able to transocde some of my other movies.

One other question - Why is FFMPEG greyed out so that the only way I can select it is by changing the Encode=1 in the INI file?

[Wolfe999]

Read back a few pages and you'll see that it is merely a cosmetic bug, and not the encoding failing...
The project will complete successfully even though it appears stuck in the GUI.

Has been talked about ever since v0.22.01 & v0.22.02 was released... so no need to reboot or abort... let it just finish and 'it will' :)

I'm not sure about what you say, MikeyBK, because last night I left a movie during the night, and when I woke it was stuck in the 50%. I decided to wait and not touch anything, so I went out and came back 4 hours later, and it was at the same point... had to abort and click again backup for it to begin the second pass. Let me tell you that in my new PC the "movie only" I do always lasts around 4/5 hours, not more, so it didn't complete by itself, though it was maxing my CPU at 100%. Regretfully, I'll have to go back again to 0.21.01.

Just edited a typo :)

[DMagic1]

Sorry if this was brought up before, Is there a way to have BDRebuilder only encode extras and leave main titile video untouched except the stipping of audio?

[Furiousflea]

Sorry if this was brought up before, Is there a way to have BDRebuilder only encode extras and leave main titile video untouched except the stipping of audio?

not yet, surely in future releases though.

[GaPony]

I'm not sure about what you say, MikeyBK, because last night I left a movie during the night, and when I woke it was stuck in the 50%. I decided to wait and not touch anything, so I went out and came back 4 hours later, and it was at the same point... had to abort and click again backup for it to begin the second pass. Let me tell you that in my new PC the "movie only" I do always lasts around 4/5 hours, not more, so it didn't complete by itself, though it was maxing my CPU at 100%. Regretfully, I'll have to go back again to 0.21.01.

Just edited a typo :)

Maybe that one movie froze up for some unrelated reason, but everything I've done that got stuck on 50% has completed normally. Mikeyb is right on this issue. (Did I really just say that? :))

[MikeyBK]

I'm not sure about what you say, MikeyBK, because last night I left a movie during the night, and when I woke it was stuck in the 50%. I decided to wait and not touch anything, so I went out and came back 4 hours later, and it was at the same point... had to abort and click again backup for it to begin the second pass. Let me tell you that in my new PC the "movie only" I do always lasts around 4/5 hours, not more, so it didn't complete by itself, though it was maxing my CPU at 100%. Regretfully, I'll have to go back again to 0.21.01.

Just edited a typo :)

Well the fact that your CPU is spiking to max, tells you that it is encoding.

Every single one I've done has completed, and successfully.... so not sure what you're doing differently or wrongly.

I'm thinking that v0.21.01 is about to expire.... not sure, but I think JD still times out each Beta so users don't report bugs from older betas.

(oh BTW, I also agree with GaPony..... and I also can't believe I'm agreeing with him on this LOL)

[Mr. Movies]

Well the fact that your CPU is spiking to max, tells you that it is encoding.

Every single one I've done has completed, and successfully.... so not sure what you're doing differently or wrongly.

I'm thinking that v0.21.01 is about to expire.... not sure, but I think JD still times out each Beta so users don't report bugs from older betas.

(oh BTW, I also agree with GaPony..... and I also can't believe I'm agreeing with him on this LOL)

With this new version and trying to re-run my Firefly my machine just froze up at the 100% mark of the 1st pass of the first stream, the largest one on this disc of a 4 episode disc. My 4 cores were close to 100% usage, but were not fluctuating as they would normally if the encoding was still happening, and my keyboard / mouse stopped responding which I haven't had problems with until this last RB update.

My mem clocking was off so that is why mine froze up this time I've been running my pC hard for the last 3 days and it's hot so ignor this post.

[Wolfe999]

Well the fact that your CPU is spiking to max, tells you that it is encoding.

Every single one I've done has completed, and successfully.... so not sure what you're doing differently or wrongly.

I'm thinking that v0.21.01 is about to expire.... not sure, but I think JD still times out each Beta so users don't report bugs from older betas.

(oh BTW, I also agree with GaPony..... and I also can't believe I'm agreeing with him on this LOL)

Mine have not completed. The fact that my CPU is spiking to the max tells me that 264 is using it, not that it's encoding because the movie didn't finish 12 hours later, and after I aborted and clicked backup again, it required 2/3 hours more to finish.

I'm doing nothing differently nor wrongly, because each time I've gone back to 0.21.01, I repeated the same steps (movie only, 2 languages, 2 subs, that's all, and depending of the length of the movie, BD-5 or BD-9) and the encoding finished during those 4/5 hours total.

It's a pity that 0.21.01 would expire, because I only can talk about my experience, and that of v0.22.02 for me it's no cosmetic bug, because if I'm not present my computer runs and runs and runs without finishing the encode

In that machine I'm not connected to the net, so it's not a problem of some update.

[GaPony]

I found that on a couple of movies that appear to freeze at the 50% mark, if I abort and then restart the progress bar starts working. This hasn't been true in all instances, however.

I think you might be experiencing the same symptom (progress bar freezing) for an entirely different problem. Which makes it very difficult for you to pinpoint. Hopefully the next update will shed some light on your issue. It should be out at anytime now...

[setarip_old]

@Mr. Movies

Hi!When encoding videos manually I've had problems with that so I wonder if that could be the cause here?Please explain what you mean by "encoding videos manually"...

[liquidskin76]

@jdobbs

Just curious... what's the minimum custom target size that can be used before HD audio isn't kept (with the option to keep HD audio enabled)?

Keep up the amazing work!

[tekmobile]

@jdobbs

Just curious... what's the minimum custom target size that can be used before HD audio isn't kept (with the option to keep HD audio enabled)?

Keep up the amazing work!

Anything greater that BD9

[MILLZY]

The links to the files are highlighted in the text in the first post. If you have TMT2 installed, download the update patch and the filter tweak, otherwise if you have powerdvd use that although as stated it does resize to 740x480.

Seeing the questions you've asked I really would go for the bd-25 route and use the minimum file size as it's a simple and perfect solution.

Were do i add the "MIN_M2TS= ****
Sorry for being a noob!

[liquidskin76]

Anything greater that BD9

Cheers tekmobile.

I've just tested this with a custom size of 12500 and it's retained the HD audio.

[Wolfe999]

I found that on a couple of movies that appear to freeze at the 50% mark, if I abort and then restart the progress bar starts working. This hasn't been true in all instances, however.

I think you might be experiencing the same symptom (progress bar freezing) for an entirely different problem. Which makes it very difficult for you to pinpoint. Hopefully the next update will shed some light on your issue. It should be out at anytime now...

First of all, I do not want to give the impression that I want to be polemic. It's not my nature and never was.

Yesterday I left encoding (reverting to v0.21.01) during the night a movie of 90 mins. When I woke up I saw in the log that all the process took 3 hours, 40 mins.

It's not the bar that freezes, It's the ENCODING. Whenever it happened, it never finished during all night. Can't say what that different problem might be, because as I already said, I use that computer only for encoding, it's not connected to the net and I do not install programs not necessary for the BD encoding. And whenever I go back to v0.21.01, the problem vanishes. So that make me believe that it's not on my side (but believe me that I wouldn't mind at all that you'd said to me, "look, wolfe, your problem is here, and here, and here, change this from your side and everything will be fine. I' do it, of course), besides that many others have experienced it.

And it's not a couple of movies, it's happened on almost all (because I can't remember having a finished encoding with 0.22.02) the movies I did with the 0.22 versions.

So, from my part, this issue is finished. I'll be reading the post and when this "problem" is solved for me, don't doubt that I'll post my experience. (Meanwhile, I'll be praying that v0.21 doesn't expire)

Best regards
Wolfe :)

EDIT typo in version

[GaPony]

Wolfe, how about starting a new thread to discuss this further. I have a similar setup to you. We can try to dissect this one point at a time to see where the failure is coming from. According to the change list, there were really only moderate changes from v.0.21.01 to 0.22.01, except for new versions of x264.exe and tsMuxer, and only minor changes between 0.22.01 and 0.22.02. It shouldn't be that difficult to find where things went wrong after reviewing some logs and settings... I can take your settings and see if I come up with the same failure. :)

[Capsbackup]

Were do i add the "MIN_M2TS= ****
Sorry for being a noob!

It's in the changes log that comes with BD-RB. Look under the changes for March 7th, 2009 - v0.20.03.

[colinhunt]

Does "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding" apply to PCM 7.1 tracks as well, or will BD-RB always try to re-encode PCM 7.1 tracks regardless of settings under Audio Encoding Options?

Forcing PCM 7.1 re-encode does not work since Aften A/52 encoder does not support 7.1 channel audio. Neither does AC-3, for that matter. Eac3to is able to do 7.1 > 5.1 channel downmix so there's one possible solution. Replacing Aften with eac3to altogether might not be a bad idea either.

edit: based on a couple of test runs PCM 7.1 tracks are not re-encoded when target is BD25 and "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding" is enabled. I also tried setting target size manually to 8142MB (which should be above the DVD9 limit) to see what would happen to PCM 7.1 tracks: BD-RB tried to re-encode PCM 7.1 track and process stopped at Aften error message.

[Mr. Movies]

@Mr. Movies

Hi!Please explain what you mean by "encoding videos manually"...

Please forgive me as it has been some time since I dealt with that so this is to the best of my recollection.

The BD version of Max Payne starts with an opening scene of guns firing and rotating. It is a long sequence and has the gun(s) firing but then has dead silence in between each gun sequence. This is a 6 channel PCM stream but the rest of the movie is AC3 6 channel. I was using ProCoder3 to convert the BD9 rip to DVD9-IFO and the opening PCM sequence was getting way, way, out of sync I believe due to the dead silence as I also ran into issues converting the LOGO screens with dead silence as well. With the studio logo screen lasting lets say 7 seconds and a muted audio track my output from ProCoder would be a flash, less then a second even though in ProCoder the steam reported duration of 7 seconds. To get around this I had to record a muted audio track, duration of 7 seconds, and seam it to the video track in ProCoder and then all was well. With the opening scene of gun sequences I took the PCM 6 channel and converted it to AC3 6 channel and re-encoded the separate audio & video tracks back together. I need to go back and do this all over again as when I stitched the streams together I’m not getting a smooth transition and it is annoying, I just haven’t had the time lately.

Again please excuse me If I’m not totally accurate here and I didn’t take the time to prove my point hands down obviously there could be other stuff going on here. I hope that helps explain what I meant for you setarip_old.

[Mr. Movies]

Audio Sync Problems
Does anyone have any ideas for me to try to get this audio to sync on my first episode of Firefly disc. I’ve now tried to convert the audio to AC3 but that was almost worst then just leaving the audio HD but did the same thing around 8 minutes in just as the movie goes to what should be a commercial break and back to the Firefly opening logo screen the sound track is off. I haven’t timed the separate audio track rip but have listened to it and it most likely is off so maybe to get around this I need to edit the audio track separately and strip out the excess time as the rest of the episode seems to remain around 4 seconds out.

Again any ideas?

[Furiousflea]

Does "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding" apply to PCM 7.1 tracks as well, or will BD-RB always try to re-encode PCM 7.1 tracks regardless of settings under Audio Encoding Options?

Forcing PCM 7.1 re-encode does not work since Aften A/52 encoder does not support 7.1 channel audio. Neither does AC-3, for that matter. Eac3to is able to do 7.1 > 5.1 channel downmix so there's one possible solution. Replacing Aften with eac3to altogether might not be a bad idea either.

edit: based on a couple of test runs PCM 7.1 tracks are not re-encoded when target is BD25 and "Keep HD audio for BD25 encoding" is enabled. I also tried setting target size manually to 8142MB (which should be above the DVD9 limit) to see what would happen to PCM 7.1 tracks: BD-RB tried to re-encode PCM 7.1 track and process stopped at Aften error message.

Can't replace aften with eac3to cos eac3to is just a frontend in terms of encoding operations. It requires paid software to work optimally. Check the OP of the eac3to thread for details.

[colinhunt]

Can't replace aften with eac3to cos eac3to is just a frontend in terms of encoding operations. It requires paid software to work optimally. Check the OP of the eac3to thread for details.
Ah, so it is. My bad.

[Capsbackup]

Please forgive me as it has been some time since I dealt with that so this is to the best of my recollection.

The BD version of Max Payne starts with an opening scene of guns firing and rotating. It is a long sequence and has the gun(s) firing but then has dead silence in between each gun sequence. This is a 6 channel PCM stream but the rest of the movie is AC3 6 channel. I was using ProCoder3 to convert the BD9 rip to DVD9-IFO and the opening PCM sequence was getting way, way, out of sync I believe due to the dead silence as I also ran into issues converting the LOGO screens with dead silence as well. With the studio logo screen lasting lets say 7 seconds and a muted audio track my output from ProCoder would be a flash, less then a second even though in ProCoder the steam reported duration of 7 seconds. To get around this I had to record a muted audio track, duration of 7 seconds, and seam it to the video track in ProCoder and then all was well. With the opening scene of gun sequences I took the PCM 6 channel and converted it to AC3 6 channel and re-encoded the separate audio & video tracks back together. I need to go back and do this all over again as when I stitched the streams together I’m not getting a smooth transition and it is annoying, I just haven’t had the time lately.

Again please excuse me If I’m not totally accurate here and I didn’t take the time to prove my point hands down obviously there could be other stuff going on here. I hope that helps explain what I meant for you setarip_old.

I backed up the Region 1, NTSC version of Max Payne to movie only BD-5 and it worked perfectly. I have never heard of an audio track having PCM and AC3 together!
BD9 to DVD9-IFO???
This is the BD Rebuilder bug reports thread!!

[jdobbs]

I backed up the Region 1, NTSC version of Max Payne to movie only BD-5 and it worked perfectly. I have never heard of an audio track having PCM and AC3 together!
BD9 to DVD9-IFO???
This is the BD Rebuilder bug reports thread!! It can't. Doing so would violate specs...

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Just curious... what's the minimum custom target size that can be used before HD audio isn't kept (with the option to keep HD audio enabled)?

Keep up the amazing work! I assume BD-25 when the setting is greater than 8500.

[Mr. Movies]

I backed up the Region 1, NTSC version of Max Payne to movie only BD-5 and it worked perfectly. I have never heard of an audio track having PCM and AC3 together!
BD9 to DVD9-IFO???
This is the BD Rebuilder bug reports thread!!

You are not reading my post correctly nor have you read prior to it as it is a response to a question asked about what I meant when I had an issue of manually encoding around audio sync issues and and dead silence in a stream.

Yes, I too have ripped Max Payne sucessfully to a BD9 but I ran into an issue when trying to convert it to an IFO/VOB or DVD-IFO format, which isn't really meant for this thread, and NO there were not both PCM and AC3 in the same stream, I NEVER stated that you read into it.

This was not directed at you nor do you need to respond to it. If you wish to try your luck at the real problem I'm having with BD-RB then please read, comprehend, my posts about BD Audio Sync problems with Firefly as I'm open to suggestions on that otherwise this is worthless and doesn't need to be continued.

[colinhunt]

I assume BD-25 when the setting is greater than 8500.
Ah, that's good to know, thanks!

[MILLZY]

drmih just cannot seem to get this right:

[21:02:33] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_MUMMY_TOMB_OF_THE_DRAGON_EMPEROR
- Input BD size: 45.81 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:26:51.219]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[21:02:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:02:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [21:19:56] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 51)
- [01:55:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [01:56:36] Reencoding: VID_00010 (2 of 51)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[05:36:37] - Failed video encode, aborted

i have placed the MIN_M2TS in the config file,or have i placed it in the wrong place.I still get Encode failed. have attached ini:

[Options]
MIN_M2TS=2100
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
AUTO_BURN=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
VERBOSE_STATUS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=L:\BD-REBUILDER WORK FILES\
SOURCE_PATH=L

[Capsbackup]

@MILLZY;
Should be "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2100".
Check inside the BD-RB zip file for the changes text doc.( March 7th, 2009 - v0.20.03 & May 4th, 2009 - v0.20.08).
It's not going to work unless it is worded correctly. :)

EDIT: Do not use quotes though! ( MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2100 )

[Capsbackup]

I just completed a full movie backup of The Mummy, Region 1, NTSC, to BD-25 with BD-RBV02202, and even though it completed successfully, the main movie will not play. All the extras and menu play back fine, but when I select Play for the main movie, it just plays the intro warnings, and the counter goes to zero and never starts the movie. Play back is on PowerDVD 7. The corresponding .m2ts file plays back fine with MPC.
This is a PIP version Blu-Ray, so could this be the reason it does not work?
I thought the main movie should play but without the PIP option available.

[MILLZY]

@MILLZY;
Should be "MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2100".
Check inside the BD-RB zip file for the changes text doc.( March 7th, 2009 - v0.20.03 & May 4th, 2009 - v0.20.08).
It's not going to work unless it is worded correctly. :)

EDIT: Do not use quotes though! ( MIN_M2TS_SIZE=2100 )

Have changed that m8,Will try again.Let you know when its done!
Thanks very much to you and drmih..........

[user822]

hi guys!

i have the problems with VC1 1080i

i had two working decoders with hight merit in graphstudio but both did NOT work with avisynth/x264

VC1-tweak also does not work for me

Is there any other chance to convert this disc?

greetings
user

[drmih]

Have changed that m8,Will try again.Let you know when its done!
Thanks very much to you and drmih..........

You know if you've got it right as before you start look at the stream window in bd-rb. Without the edit you will see all of the sizeable streams but after you've set it to 2100 there should only be the main movie showing. No need to waste time waiting for it to go wrong.

[PurpleMan]

Hi,

I just finished doing the movie "21" using BD-Rebuilder to BD25.

I thought everything was perfect, until I was lucky enough to catch this (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0924/corrupt) while playing the movie.

This is not a decoding problem, the frame is actually encoded like that in the BD-Rebuilder produced file (has several seconds of corruptions). I also made sure that there's no problem decoding the original m2ts using the .avs BD-Rebuilder used for encoding.

Anybody have a clue what could have caused it?

It got me all worried that my other backed up BD's have the same thing somewhere throughout the movie.

[MILLZY]

You know if you've got it right as before you start look at the stream window in bd-rb. Without the edit you will see all of the sizeable streams but after you've set it to 2100 there should only be the main movie showing. No need to waste time waiting for it to go wrong.


Exactly as you said,Thanks very much........:thanks:

Forgot to mention.Doing it by MIN_M2TS will it be just movie only or will the extras still be intact?

[user822]

finally i fixed the VC1 1080i Problem by using ffdshow :rolleyes:

[drmih]

Exactly as you said,Thanks very much........:thanks:

Forgot to mention.Doing it by MIN_M2TS will it be just movie only or will the extras still be intact?

You make me smile!!

As the problem file is an extra, if you were only doing movie-only it would be included. However, to answer your question it will be a full disc copy but only the movie will be re-encoded - the others will just be copied intact.

[jdobbs]

Hi,

I just finished doing the movie "21" using BD-Rebuilder to BD25.

I thought everything was perfect, until I was lucky enough to catch this (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0924/corrupt) while playing the movie.

This is not a decoding problem, the frame is actually encoded like that in the BD-Rebuilder produced file (has several seconds of corruptions). I also made sure that there's no problem decoding the original m2ts using the .avs BD-Rebuilder used for encoding.

Anybody have a clue what could have caused it?

It got me all worried that my other backed up BD's have the same thing somewhere throughout the movie.Likely a bad rip -- at least it has been on the ones I've seen that issue before -- you saw it a lot in some of the earlier versions of AnyDVD-BD before they perfected their ripping.

What did you use to rip it? Have you checked the source?

[jdobbs]

I'm posting this here directly as opposed to the first post of the thread because I've made a lot of code changes that might cause new issues, and would like to have some testing done by the people who acually read this thead before the "grab it and go" guys have a chance to lambast me. Also, please let me know soonest if there are still any issues with the 50% completion bug. Since I cannot repeat it, it is a compete guessing game for me. Here are a summary of the changes:

June 18th, 2009 - v0.22.03
- Added the --fps parameter to the X264 command line
to circumvent possible inconsistencies in source
frame serving.
- Added code to detect pulldown in VC-1 sources and
perform special handling (e.g. auto removal).
- Changed the method of updating the progress bar
back to that in v0.21.01. It seems the O/S isn't
consistent returning window handles on some systems.
- Corrected an error in which field deinterlacing
could fail when the output of the source codec was
not YUY2 or YV12.
- Corrected an issue related to sources with pulldown
that could result in audio synch errors.
- Changed the default value of the FIX_CLPI hidden INI
setting. The CLPI errors were fixed in TSMUXER and
this is typically no longer needed. If you are using
an older version of TSMUXER rather than the one that
is shipped with BD-RB, however, please add FIX_CLPI=1
to the "Options" area of your config (INI) file.
- Fixed some overall progress reporting errors when
resuming a movie-only encode.
- Added code to identify troublesome (field based)
VC-1 interlaced files. In BD-25 backups they are (if
not the main-feature) automatically copied intact to
prevent CODEC failures during encoding with X264.
NOTE: Setting the RESIZE option will disable this
feature.
- Added two flags to the streams list following the fps
indicator. "*" means the source is PULLDOWN. "**"
(BD5/9 only) means the source is FIELD BASED interlaced
VC-1 and will be BLANKED during reencoding. Audio
will playback correctly, but with a blank screen. This
is required in order to prevent CODEC failures on these
sources. If you see a lot of "**" flags, you may want
to consider movie-only mode.
- Added a hidden option called "DISABLE_VC1_FIX=1" this
will disable the the two changes above (intact copy and
blanking) -- just in case a CODEC is discovered that
properly handles these streams. Flags will still be
displayed.
- Added code to detect when a video source does not
require encoding to meet target size goals, and keep it
intact. Please note that the decision contains more
than meets the eye. For example, if an M2TS is a part
of more than one MPLS and a component portion of the
other cannot be kept intact -- it may not qualify and
requires encoding.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

Please pay attention to the last couple non-cosmetic changes. Don't be surprised when a previous source that would crash the CODEC and cause an X264 failure now becomes a blanked screen.

You can download this version from this link (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV02301.ZIP).

[PurpleMan]

Likely a bad rip -- at least it has been on the ones I've seen that issue before -- you saw it a lot in some of the earlier versions of AnyDVD-BD before they perfected their ripping.

What did you use to rip it? Have you checked the source?

Hi jdobbs, thanks for replying.

Like I said, I checked that if I open the .avs file that bd-rb used, the frames there are NOT corrupted (meaning that the source m2ts is fine). It either got corrupted by x264 or by the decoder from some reason while serving it.

I repeated the encode only for that particular m2ts (same avs, same bd-rb commandline for 1st/2nd passes) - and it resulted in a good encode this time.

I am quite bothered at what could have caused it to screw up like that on the first go.


And another bug I noticed, the abovementioned movie ("21") is split to several m2ts's on the original disc with no consistency to the division. meaning, 00133.m2ts is first hour, then 00134.m2ts is another 6 minutes, then another 35 seconds, then another 1 hours, etc. The movie is "glued" together on the disc using a playlist (obviously). After running BD-RB on it, when playing the movie, whenever it crosses a point in which it switches from one m2ts to another, there is an audio gap that makes it noticeable it's switching files. that gap does not exist on the source disc nor the ripped-to-hd version. I think that this could be caused by even the slightest deviation in the number of frames decoded by directshow as opposed to the amount coded on the original m2ts (1 frame difference would result in that gap).

Anyways, I think that's worth looking into. As a side note, any particular reason you chose not to use the DG indexing tools for the frameserving? (DGAVCIndex, DGIndex and DGVC1Index)
Seems like it's kind of a mess using "directshowsource" as each person has a different decoder installed on his system. For instance, I use ffdshow for vc1/mpg2 and coreavc for avc.

Keep up the good work, it is greatly appreciated.
I'll keep reporting and testing, doing whatever I can do to help.

Regards,
-PurpleMan

[Capsbackup]

Thanks jdobbs, you have been busy!! :eek:
I am looking forward to testing this new version.
Have you any input on if a PIP movie can be backed up to a full movie successfully? I just tried The Mummy Returns, and it has the same results as The Mummy, where the menu and extras all play fine, but the main movie will not play.

[drmih]

Thanks jdobbs, you have been busy!! :eek:
I am looking forward to testing this new version.
Have you any input on if a PIP movie can be backed up to a full movie successfully? I just tried The Mummy Returns, and it has the same results as The Mummy, where the menu and extras all play fine, but the main movie will not play.

This is standalone specific (panasonic??), as they are fine on a pc or a sony standalone, although the pip feature is not available everything works fine to bd-25.

[Capsbackup]

This is standalone specific (panasonic??), as they are fine on a pc or a sony standalone, although the pip feature is not available everything works fine to bd-25.

I did not burn to BD-RE, since the main movie would not even play with PowerDVD. My standalone is a Sony BDP-BX1, but if the PowerDVD test did not work, I did not think it would work on BD-RE either.

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I notice that if I open Terminator 3 with BD-RBV02301, it sees 00001.m2ts as VC-1, 1080P, 23.976fps*, 13,359.84 MB.
If I open it with BD-RBV02202, it sees 00001.m2ts as VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps, 13,359.84 MB.
If I open 00001.m2ts with BDInfo, it sees VC-1, 1080i, 29.970fps.
Can you explain the difference?
Is this how BD-RB will reencode this file with this new version?

EDIT:
Even though 00002.m2ts is larger than 00001.m2ts, I am unable to use MIN_M2TS_SIZE= to force BD-RB to skip reencoding 00001.m2ts.
If I set MIN_M2TS_SIZE=15000, BD-RB will remove 00002.m2ts from the to rencode list but not 00001.m2ts. Is that the way it is suppose to be?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I notice that if I open Terminator 3 with BD-RBV02301, it sees 00001.m2ts as VC-1, 1080P, 23.976fps*, 13,359.84 MB.
If I open it with BD-RBV02202, it sees 00001.m2ts as VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps, 13,359.84 MB.
If I open 00001.m2ts with BDInfo, it sees VC-1, 1080i, 29.970fps.
Can you explain the difference?
Is this how BD-RB will reencode this file with this new version?

EDIT:
Even though 00002.m2ts is larger than 00001.m2ts, I am unable to use MIN_M2TS_SIZE= to force BD-RB to skip reencoding 00001.m2ts.
If I set MIN_M2TS_SIZE=15000, BD-RB will remove 00002.m2ts from the to rencode list but not 00001.m2ts. Is that the way it is suppose to be? That means it is progressive with pulldown -- so BD-RB removes the pulldown and keeps it progressive.

[bassnut]

Yes you have been busy Jdobbs ....... I have 300 running now as soon as it is done I will let you know. Any other movies that might be giving you some issues shout out and I may have it to try. Wow looks like there might be a bit of a speed improvment ...... 166 fps on pass 1 and 85 fps on pass 2

[Capsbackup]

Well, I have burned The Mummy to BD-RE and it does play the movie on my Sony BDP-BX1. Interesting that PowerDVD would not play it but it does play on my standalone.
However, this is the second full movie backup to BD-RE that does not have perfect audio sync. The .m2ts file played back with MPC has audio sync, but the burned version to BD-RE does not. Definitely troublesome!! :confused:

[bassnut]

300 is now at 67% and working fine. With my system it would sometimes stall at 50% sometimes not, take this for what it's worth.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I notice that if I open Terminator 3 with BD-RBV02301, it sees 00001.m2ts as VC-1, 1080P, 23.976fps*, 13,359.84 MB.
If I open it with BD-RBV02202, it sees 00001.m2ts as VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps, 13,359.84 MB.
If I open 00001.m2ts with BDInfo, it sees VC-1, 1080i, 29.970fps.
Can you explain the difference?
Is this how BD-RB will reencode this file with this new version?

EDIT:
Even though 00002.m2ts is larger than 00001.m2ts, I am unable to use MIN_M2TS_SIZE= to force BD-RB to skip reencoding 00001.m2ts.
If I set MIN_M2TS_SIZE=15000, BD-RB will remove 00002.m2ts from the to rencode list but not 00001.m2ts. Is that the way it is suppose to be? It all depends. The problem with the MIN_M2TS_SIZE is the structure of the BD. In a BD playback is dictated by the MPLS file. The MPLS might reference several M2TS/CLPI file sets (component parts of the overall playback). But in order for the stream of multiple components to work --they all have to have common audio tracks, subs, video types/framerates etc. There can be lots of MPLS files, and multiple MPLS files might point to a single M2TS. If you reencode an M2TS you also have to reencode all the other components in that MPLS -- or it won't work (one part might use a certain codec and the other won't match). So sometimes you are forced to reencode an M2TS -- even when it falls under MIN_M2TS_SIZE. To make it even more complicated... one of the component M2TS files of an MPLS might also be a part of other MPLS files -- and as a result, when it is encoded -- it forces the components of the other MPLS files to also be encoded.

Bottom line is -- you can set the MIN_M2TS_SIZE, but that doesn't necessarily mean all the files will (or more accurately can) cooperate with your decision.

Hope that isn't too complicated an answer to a simple question. But frankly when you follow the file links involved and try to figure a "why" it starts to look a little like voodoo.

[jdobbs]

Yes you have been busy Jdobbs ....... I have 300 running now as soon as it is done I will let you know. Any other movies that might be giving you some issues shout out and I may have it to try. Wow looks like there might be a bit of a speed improvment ...... 166 fps on pass 1 and 85 fps on pass 2 Your framerates have me green with envy. I want a system like yours when I grow up.

[bassnut]

looks like those frame rates were on the extras @ 720 X 480, should of noticed that earlier ....... dam I need some sleep ........ I am back down to a fairly normal 15 FPS now at 1920 X1280 on pass 2 but at 76% now 3 hours later

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Thank you for this explanation. I guess I was just hoping to be able to be selective of what I could or could not reencode by using the MIN_M2TS_SIZE.
Also, thanks for your continued efforts and support. :) :thanks:

[drmih]

Well, I have burned The Mummy to BD-RE and it does play the movie on my Sony BDP-BX1. Interesting that PowerDVD would not play it but it does play on my standalone.
However, this is the second full movie backup to BD-RE that does not have perfect audio sync. The .m2ts file played back with MPC has audio sync, but the burned version to BD-RE does not. Definitely troublesome!! :confused:

All I can say is that I have done all three of the mummy films to bd-r and haven't seen a problem, either on my pc with TMT3 or a Sony 550.

[Furiousflea]

Could someone clarify the situation on films with PIP please?

Are they functioning correctly, obviously minus the PIP functionality.

Many thanks, Rob

[tekmobile]

Just running drillbit taylor and noticed that it has demuxed the main movie VC1 stream with the audio/subs but doing the re encode from the m2ts.

Is this intentional or a bug ?

[MikeyBK]

The same test clip that had the stuck at 50% GUI issue in 0.22.01 & 0.22.02, no longer had that issue in v0.23.01... just FYI...

:thanks:

[drmih]

Could someone clarify the situation on films with PIP please?

Are they functioning correctly, obviously minus the PIP functionality.

Many thanks, Rob

On a PC I have found them all to work perfectly whether to bd-9 or bd-25 in full disc mode (but obviously without anything happening if you try and switch on PIP). On my only standalone player (Sony 550) if I copy a bd-9 structure to a dvd-dl disc, although everything 'works', you can't select the audio for the main movie, although the stream can be played on a PS3 with the audio there. If I take the same bd-9 structure and copy it to a bd-re, it works perfectly!! There is therefore something slightly quirky about the Sony's firmware. For full disc copies to bd-r or bd-re all have played fine so far.

[jdobbs]

Just running drillbit taylor and noticed that it has demuxed the main movie VC1 stream with the audio/subs but doing the re encode from the m2ts.

Is this intentional or a bug ? That's something I added. This version looks at the source size to determine whether it needs to reencode or can keep the original stream intact and still fit on the output target. So it obviously has to know the exact size of the original video stream. There are two ways to do that -- either demux the video along with the audio, or rescan the M2TS myself just before reencoding (to get the size). I originally wrote code to scan the M2TS. But it doubled the time of a the first option (demuxing), so I decided just to sacrifice drive space as opposed to adding more time to an already lengthy process. At that time, I planned to remove the demuxed video when the decision is made to reencode it. But then realized there is a possibility that the decision might be reversed when a later component of a shared MPLS is demuxed.... so I left it.

I'll probably play with that a little more. Large components are unlikely to ever have a decision reversed later, so I may remove those demuxed video streams at reencode.

[tekmobile]

That's something I added. This version looks at the source size to determine whether it needs to reencode or can keep the original stream intact and still fit on the output target. There are two ways to do that -- either demux the video along with the audio, or rescan the M2TS myself just before reencoding (to get the size). I originally wrote code to scan the M2TS. But it doubled the time of a the first option (demuxing), so I decided just to sacrifice drive space as opposed to time. At that time, I planned to remove the demuxed video when the decision is made to reencode it. But there is a possibility that the decision might be reversed when a later component of a shared MPLS is demuxed.... so I left it.

I'll probably play with that a little more. Large components are unlikely to ever have a decision reversed later, so I may remove those demuxed video streams at reencode.

Thats OK then I thought you might have started doing the re encoding from the demuxed stream instead of the m2ts but couldnt see any details in the release notes.

So after the ReEncode process has started its safe to manually delete the demuxed video file the only reason im asking is because I have a dedicated partition for the workfiles directory to help save the system drive from fragmentation due to the constant changing of data and its not enough space assigned to store the additianal demuxed video track.

When its done I will increase the partition size to suit.

[bassnut]

@ Furiouseflea ..... I ahe done a cople of the PIP tracked movies ..... Wanted and Taken come to mind right away. All to BD25 the encode works fine and all extras play fine on both my PC, WINDVD9, TMT3 and POWERDVD8 and my Standalone SonyBDPS350. The only issue when you select to play the PIP extras is you get an empty PIP box or screen frame since obviously there is nothing to play. There have been no other issues with these movies or any other movies I have done since ALIEN Vs PREDATOR a little while back (21.02) and that had to do with VC1 Streams which I think has been dealt with.

@Jdobs ....... 300 encoded fine and plays fine on PC. No 50% bug evident. Final encode time was around 5 - 6 hours for complete backup to BD25 all english Audio and all subbs kept so there looks like maybe a bit of a preformance boost even if it just came from encoding the extras, there were allot of 720 X 480 streams in this movie ...... quick encode for extras was not selected. I have Deathrace in now but won't know how that turned out till I get back Sunday ....... Taking off for a litttle holliday. Thanks for your efforts ....... great program.

[PurpleMan]

Hi jdobbs, thanks for replying.

Like I said, I checked that if I open the .avs file that bd-rb used, the frames there are NOT corrupted (meaning that the source m2ts is fine). It either got corrupted by x264 or by the decoder from some reason while serving it.

I repeated the encode only for that particular m2ts (same avs, same bd-rb commandline for 1st/2nd passes) - and it resulted in a good encode this time.

I am quite bothered at what could have caused it to screw up like that on the first go.


And another bug I noticed, the abovementioned movie ("21") is split to several m2ts's on the original disc with no consistency to the division. meaning, 00133.m2ts is first hour, then 00134.m2ts is another 6 minutes, then another 35 seconds, then another 1 hours, etc. The movie is "glued" together on the disc using a playlist (obviously). After running BD-RB on it, when playing the movie, whenever it crosses a point in which it switches from one m2ts to another, there is an audio gap that makes it noticeable it's switching files. that gap does not exist on the source disc nor the ripped-to-hd version. I think that this could be caused by even the slightest deviation in the number of frames decoded by directshow as opposed to the amount coded on the original m2ts (1 frame difference would result in that gap).

Anyways, I think that's worth looking into. As a side note, any particular reason you chose not to use the DG indexing tools for the frameserving? (DGAVCIndex, DGIndex and DGVC1Index)
Seems like it's kind of a mess using "directshowsource" as each person has a different decoder installed on his system. For instance, I use ffdshow for vc1/mpg2 and coreavc for avc.

Keep up the good work, it is greatly appreciated.
I'll keep reporting and testing, doing whatever I can do to help.

Regards,
-PurpleMan

@jdobbs: Sorry, haven't gotten your reply for this.

In addition, I can confirm that in the new version you released yesterday the files are still encoded as 23.975.

[MILLZY]

You make me smile!!

As the problem file is an extra, if you were only doing movie-only it would be included. However, to answer your question it will be a full disc copy but only the movie will be re-encoded - the others will just be copied intact.

Worked like a charm...:thanks:

[user822]

Don't be surprised when a previous source that would crash the CODEC and cause an X264 failure now becomes a blanked screen.

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.23.01 (beta)
Blankclip(length=134350, height=1080, width=1920, fps=25)
Subtitle("VIDEO BLANKED...", align=5, size=40)


that was with 1080i VC1

it crashed x264 two times before at about 70%

hope it's working now with the old version and other decoder..

[colinhunt]

In addition, I can confirm that in the new version you released yesterday the files are still encoded as 23.975.
I'm running tests on two PCs right now, and MediaInfo reports the completed VIDs are all 23.976 like they should be. (Note: I'm referring to the MKV files BD-RB uses before the final stage.)

[colinhunt]

June 18th, 2009 - v0.22.03
- Added code to detect when a video source does not
require encoding to meet target size goals, and keep it
intact. Please note that the decision contains more
than meets the eye. For example, if an M2TS is a part
of more than one MPLS and a component portion of the
other cannot be kept intact -- it may not qualify and
requires encoding.
Yay! Silly question though (yes, another one): this wouldn't happen to be intelligent enough to first encode non-movie VIDs (when doing full backup), then making an educated guess whether the movie itself would fit without re-encoding?

[Wolfe999]

Wolfe, how about starting a new thread to discuss this further. I have a similar setup to you. We can try to dissect this one point at a time to see where the failure is coming from. According to the change list, there were really only moderate changes from v.0.21.01 to 0.22.01, except for new versions of x264.exe and tsMuxer, and only minor changes between 0.22.01 and 0.22.02. It shouldn't be that difficult to find where things went wrong after reviewing some logs and settings... I can take your settings and see if I come up with the same failure. :)

Sorry for the delay, wasn't lack of interest, but of time. Of course if you want to open another thread I will gladly report there and see what can be done. But, I thought I had it solved, though I discovered it was only 50% (but at least I now can replicate the "freezing" and the finishing also of the movie)

After what you said about being only minor changes in between BD-Rebuilder versions, I decided to copy the TsMuxer version I was using in BD 0.21.01 and paste it in 0.22.02 (which was using 1.10.6). Don't remember why I had changed the TsMuxer version of 0.22.01 to 1.9.9 (maybe it was a recommendation from Turbojet, I can't remember). Once done, I did some Star Trek movies on that version. The first one (I was awake till 4 A.M, till it finished), didn't stopped till the end. I was very happy. I left doing another one (with the PC always ready to hybernate after 5 hours). The next morning, I found it was complete, but the progress bar stuck at the 50% position. BUT at least the codec kept on encoding and the movie was finished. I put another one and it got stuck at 50% too (can't say why), but I followed its progress and saw the movie finished in it's usual 4/5 hours span.

Immediately I did another movie, but on v0.21.01 (with the same 1.9.9 TSMuxer version and without changing anything) and everything went smootly, wiithout any freezing. So, where's the problem? In TsMuxer?

JDobbs, I'm doing right now a movie in 0.21.01, but as soon as it finishes, I will try the new version to see if finally this (whatever it might be) disappears :)

Thanx again and regards
Wolfe

[jdobbs]

Thats OK then I thought you might have started doing the re encoding from the demuxed stream instead of the m2ts but couldnt see any details in the release notes.

So after the ReEncode process has started its safe to manually delete the demuxed video file the only reason im asking is because I have a dedicated partition for the workfiles directory to help save the system drive from fragmentation due to the constant changing of data and its not enough space assigned to store the additianal demuxed video track.

When its done I will increase the partition size to suit. Not necessarily. Probably, but there is still a chance that it might be used. the only "safe" time is after encoding of all parts are completed. If it is a large component, though, it is very, very unlikely that deleting it will have any impact at all after it has started encoding. Because there would have to be an extremely large segment remaining to reverse the decision.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs: Sorry, haven't gotten your reply for this.

In addition, I can confirm that in the new version you released yesterday the files are still encoded as 23.975. It would have been nice to see it go away just for cosmetic reasons -- but it's a non-issue as explained further back in this thread.

[jdobbs]

that was with 1080i VC1

it crashed x264 two times before at about 70%

hope it's working now with the old version and other decoder.. I don't know what you are saying. It crashed before, or it crashed on the new version?

[GaPony]

Sorry for the delay, wasn't lack of interest, but of time. Of course if you want to open another thread I will gladly report there and see what can be done. But, I thought I had it solved, though I discovered it was only 50% (but at least I now can replicate the "freezing" and the finishing also of the movie)

After what you said about being only minor changes in between BD-Rebuilder versions, I decided to copy the TsMuxer version I was using in BD 0.21.01 and paste it in 0.22.02 (which was using 1.10.6). Don't remember why I had changed the TsMuxer version of 0.22.01 to 1.9.9 (maybe it was a recommendation from Turbojet, I can't remember). Once done, I did some Star Trek movies on that version. The first one (I was awake till 4 A.M, till it finished), didn't stopped till the end. I was very happy. I left doing another one (with the PC always ready to hybernate after 5 hours). The next morning, I found it was complete, but the progress bar stuck at the 50% position. BUT at least the codec kept on encoding and the movie was finished. I put another one and it got stuck at 50% too (can't say why), but I followed its progress and saw the movie finished in it's usual 4/5 hours span.

Immediately I did another movie, but on v0.21.01 (with the same 1.9.9 TSMuxer version and without changing anything) and everything went smootly, wiithout any freezing. So, where's the problem? In TsMuxer?

JDobbs, I'm doing right now a movie in 0.21.01, but as soon as it finishes, I will try the new version to see if finally this (whatever it might be) disappears :)

Thanx again and regards
Wolfe

Yea.... I think its fixed now. No freezing on the progress bar and everything appears to be working normal with v.0.23.01 after about copying 6 movies.

[user822]

I don't know what you are saying. It crashed before, or it crashed on the new version?

it crashed before and now it does not use the video(black movie as you see in hte avs i quoted)

is there any solution to the VC1 1080 interlaced Problem(i had 5 crashes now)? :confused:

greetings
user

[colinhunt]

Finished first test of the new "no video re-encode" feature.
Disc size: 25.5 GB (27 478 268 964 bytes)
Movie (00003.m2ts): 23.6 GB (25 365 479 424 bytes)

I selected "Movie only" mode and removed all non-English audio & subs (i.e. one of the two Dolby TrueHD tracks and two subtitle tracks). BD-RB decided video needed no re-encoding. Output came to 21.9 GB and worked perfectly when played with TMT 3.0. Fantastic work, JDobbs!

For 2nd test, I selected "Full backup" and removed all non-English audio and subtitles from all VIDs. BD-RB began re-encoding 00000.m2ts (800MB) almost immediately, then skipped 00001 and 00002 (both less than 10MB) and is currently processing 00003.m2ts, the movie itself. Rest of the files are 00004 (772MB), 00005 (440MB) and 00006 (4MB).

So, if "movie only" came to 21.9 GB with non-English audio & subs removed, there's ~1 GB of space left on the BD25 for extras that take ~2 GB on the original disc.

I guess the next logical step would be to implement a "force main movie no re-encode with re-encoded extras" mode, where BD-RB first takes into account all removed audio & subs, then calculates how much disc space is left for extras and re-encodes extras at a low enough bitrate for them to fit on a BD25 with original, untouched movie video stream. How's that sound?

[GaPony]

It sounds like a topic for the "requested features" thread. :)

[PurpleMan]

It would have been nice to see it go away just for cosmetic reasons -- but it's a non-issue as explained further back in this thread.

Well, you could probably solve it by adding a "AssumeFPS(23.976)" to the avs script. Maybe it's worth a shot.

[colinhunt]

It sounds like a topic for the "requested features" thread. :)
Yeah, you're right. I just didn't want to split the post into two separate threads, to be honest.

[jdobbs]

it crashed before and now it does not use the video(black movie as you see in hte avs i quoted)

is there any solution to the VC1 1080 interlaced Problem(i had 5 crashes now)? :confused:

greetings
user The problem is that there just aren't any codecs that support field based interlaced video. The choice is crash or blank.

What might do it is if someone developed some code that merged the two fields together and made the video frame based interlaced. But I'm not sure that is even possible without decoding and encoding...

[LowDead]

Just had a major undersize on benjamin button EUR.. Choosed BD25 output and it came out 10GB.. If there's anything in particilar you need to know JD just let me know.. I have been away from testing due to work for some time know so i'm not sure what I'm supposted to post about bugs ^^

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450

"C:\DVD-Rip\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS" --bitrate 2156 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 9 --me umh --ref 4 --bframes 3 --mixed-refs --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV"

//LD

[user822]

The problem is that there just aren't any codecs that support field based interlaced video. The choice is crash or blank.

What might do it is if someone developed some code that merged the two fields together and made the video frame based interlaced. But I'm not sure that is even possible without decoding and encoding...

none of the workarounds worked here
perhaps future versions of ffdshow will fix that problem

[jdobbs]

none of the workarounds worked here
perhaps future versions of ffdshow will fix that problem I don't think there are any workarounds for this issue. There is just nothing on the PC that will play them.

[Furiousflea]

Just had a major undersize on benjamin button EUR.. Choosed BD25 output and it came out 10GB.. If there's anything in particilar you need to know JD just let me know.. I have been away from testing due to work for some time know so i'm not sure what I'm supposted to post about bugs ^^

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450

"C:\DVD-Rip\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS" --bitrate 2156 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 9 --me umh --ref 4 --bframes 3 --mixed-refs --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV"

//LD

You must be doing something wrong, I did this disc (EU version) and it actually oversizes by about 200mb which is well in the reasonable margin of error.

[Furiousflea]

On a PC I have found them all to work perfectly whether to bd-9 or bd-25 in full disc mode (but obviously without anything happening if you try and switch on PIP). On my only standalone player (Sony 550) if I copy a bd-9 structure to a dvd-dl disc, although everything 'works', you can't select the audio for the main movie, although the stream can be played on a PS3 with the audio there. If I take the same bd-9 structure and copy it to a bd-re, it works perfectly!! There is therefore something slightly quirky about the Sony's firmware. For full disc copies to bd-r or bd-re all have played fine so far.

Cheers dude :)

[Category 5]

Finished first test of the new "no video re-encode" feature.
Disc size: 25.5 GB (27 478 268 964 bytes)
Movie (00003.m2ts): 23.6 GB (25 365 479 424 bytes)

I selected "Movie only" mode and removed all non-English audio & subs (i.e. one of the two Dolby TrueHD tracks and two subtitle tracks). BD-RB decided video needed no re-encoding. Output came to 21.9 GB and worked perfectly when played with TMT 3.0. Fantastic work, JDobbs!

For 2nd test, I selected "Full backup" and removed all non-English audio and subtitles from all VIDs. BD-RB began re-encoding 00000.m2ts (800MB) almost immediately, then skipped 00001 and 00002 (both less than 10MB) and is currently processing 00003.m2ts, the movie itself. Rest of the files are 00004 (772MB), 00005 (440MB) and 00006 (4MB).

So, if "movie only" came to 21.9 GB with non-English audio & subs removed, there's ~1 GB of space left on the BD25 for extras that take ~2 GB on the original disc.

I guess the next logical step would be to implement a "force main movie no re-encode with re-encoded extras" mode, where BD-RB first takes into account all removed audio & subs, then calculates how much disc space is left for extras and re-encodes extras at a low enough bitrate for them to fit on a BD25 with original, untouched movie video stream. How's that sound?

Stellar. I must have missed how to enable this. So I need to add a manual switch?

0.20.03 wsorking flawlessly for me thus far BTW. 3 done.

[colinhunt]

So I need to add a manual switch?
Nope, there's no switch; BD-RB decides on its own when video re-encoding is not necessary.

[aquanash]

Looks like there is an issue with Frost/Nixon (US) using the latest v0.23.01. I ran this movie in movie-only mode to BD-25 last night and the output m2ts was oversized (25.3 gb) in the final output. I dug around the workfiles and it looks like for some reason it muxed the original video instead of the re-compressed video in the final step, completely ignoring the MKV file that was created. Here is contents of the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta file:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4113.vc1"+"D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00083.track_4113.vc1", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4352.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=eng

It has something to do with the VID_00083 video stream, which is just a "This movie has been rated R" screen that is played after the movie finishes. I was NOT able to unselect this stream in the GUI (is there a reason I can't unselect this?). As you can see in the log, it skipped re-compressing this unneeded stream after re-compressing the main movie stream (VID_00010):

-----------------------
[23:31:27] BD Rebuilder v0.23.01 (beta)
- Source: FROSTNIXON
- Input BD size: 29.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:01:57.643]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:31:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:31:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:46:10] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 2)
- [09:13:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00083]
- [09:13:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[09:13:54]PHASE ONE complete
[09:13:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:13:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[09:30:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:30:22]JOB: FROSTNIXON completed.

Looks like there might be a problem with the new logic for deciding when to keep original video.

I've attached a zip file with the log, inf and all meta and avs files in the workfiles directory. I also created a file called file_list.txt that shows all the files (you can see the mkv) and their sizes in the workfiles directory.

Please let me know if you need any further info to help debug this problem.

[cyberdoggy]

o.k. I am running windows 7 build 7201 although I have a feeling that has nothing to do with anything, when I try and encode a vc-1 file, BD-Rebuilder build 0.23.01 hangs nothing happens, it does not even begin a encode, no counters change from zero, matroska icon appears in tray but nothing happens, I am lost as I never had this problem before I have tried changing the settings in ffdshow to all the the codecs that vc-1 presents and no change. as you can see I have tried these files over and over. All other codecs are working beautiful just not vc-1

- Input BD size: 36.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:44:19.279]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:30:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:30:15] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.

[jdobbs]

Looks like there is an issue with Frost/Nixon (US) using the latest v0.23.01. I ran this movie in movie-only mode to BD-25 last night and the output m2ts was oversized (25.3 gb) in the final output. I dug around the workfiles and it looks like for some reason it muxed the original video instead of the re-compressed video in the final step, completely ignoring the MKV file that was created. Here is contents of the MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta file:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4113.vc1"+"D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00083.track_4113.vc1", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4352.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=eng

It has something to do with the VID_00083 video stream, which is just a "This movie has been rated R" screen that is played after the movie finishes. I was NOT able to unselect this stream in the GUI (is there a reason I can't unselect this?). As you can see in the log, it skipped re-compressing this unneeded stream after re-compressing the main movie stream (VID_00010):

-----------------------
[23:31:27] BD Rebuilder v0.23.01 (beta)
- Source: FROSTNIXON
- Input BD size: 29.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:01:57.643]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[23:31:27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:31:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:46:10] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 2)
- [09:13:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00083]
- [09:13:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
[09:13:54]PHASE ONE complete
[09:13:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [09:13:54] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[09:30:22] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[09:30:22]JOB: FROSTNIXON completed.

Looks like there might be a problem with the new logic for deciding when to keep original video.

I've attached a zip file with the log, inf and all meta and avs files in the workfiles directory. I also created a file called file_list.txt that shows all the files (you can see the mkv) and their sizes in the workfiles directory.

Please let me know if you need any further info to help debug this problem. Thanks for the input. I had to modify a lot of code for that "keep original" feature, so I'm not surprised something came up. I have Frost/Nixon Region A -- I'll run it and see what happens on my system.

By the way. You can edit the INF file and remove the lines that say "USE_ORIGINAL=1" and then run BD-RB on it again. When it resumes it will rebuild using the reencoded files (assuming they exist).

[jdobbs]

o.k. I am running windows 7 build 7201 although I have a feeling that has nothing to do with anything, when I try and encode a vc-1 file, BD-Rebuilder build 0.23.01 hangs nothing happens, it does not even begin a encode, no counters change from zero, matroska icon appears in tray but nothing happens, I am lost as I never had this problem before I have tried changing the settings in ffdshow to all the the codecs that vc-1 presents and no change. as you can see I have tried these files over and over. All other codecs are working beautiful just not vc-1

- Input BD size: 36.24 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:44:19.279]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:30:15] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:30:15] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying. Actually I think it does have something to do with it. Look at this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290) and this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924). Sometimes Microsoft just doesn't think before they do.

[jdobbs]

Looks like there might be a problem with the new logic for deciding when to keep original video.It was. I've corrected it for the next release.

[LowDead]

You must be doing something wrong, I did this disc (EU version) and it actually oversizes by about 200mb which is well in the reasonable margin of error.

Well.. I just noticed BD-RB set the bitrate a little low. It should be alot higher. Ofcourse I could have done something wrong but I can't think of anything ^^

"C:\DVD-Rip\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS" --bitrate 2156 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 9 --me umh --ref 4 --bframes 3 --mixed-refs --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV"

//LD

[Category 5]

Nope, there's no switch; BD-RB decides on its own when video re-encoding is not necessary.

Bitchin! jDobbs just earned another donation!

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I used v.0.23.01 to successfully without incident process two BluRays as "movie-only".

I then tried using it to process "Night at the Museum" (that I'd previously done without incident back in February). The progress bar stopped at "2/", "100% Current Progress", and "50% Overall Progress".

Selecting "Abort" and the "backup" got thing going again.

From what I've read in this thread, other reports of this behavior, with earlier versions, appear to have been limited to VC-1 video. Be advised that the main movie of "Night at the Museum" contains MPEG-2 video...

Your thoughts please?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

I used v.0.23.01 to successfully without incident process two BluRays as "movie-only".

I then tried using it to process "Night at the Museum" (that I'd previously done without incident back in February). The progress bar stopped at "2/", "100% Current Progress", and "50% Overall Progress".

Selecting "Abort" and the "backup" got thing going again.

From what I've read in this thread, other reports of this behavior, with earlier versions, appear to have been limited to VC-1 video. Be advised that the main movie of "Night at the Museum" contains MPEG-2 video...

Your thoughts please? Please check it again -- and make sure you aren't using the last version by mistake. I GUARANTEE the GUI code for grabbing status is no different than it was in the earlier versions before this was first reported. Others are saying they aren't seeing it anymore. If it is still doing this, please try it with an earlier version of X264. It would be the only thing related to this that has changed.

Is this something that only happens on Windows 7, maybe? I'm using Vista and never once (with encodes running pretty much 24hrs a day) have I ever seen it happen.

By the way... what is "2/"? Did you mean "2/2"? Is it actually reporting it that way?

[jdobbs]

Just had a major undersize on benjamin button EUR.. Choosed BD25 output and it came out 10GB.. If there's anything in particilar you need to know JD just let me know.. I have been away from testing due to work for some time know so i'm not sure what I'm supposted to post about bugs ^^

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450

"C:\DVD-Rip\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS" --bitrate 2156 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 9 --me umh --ref 4 --bframes 3 --mixed-refs --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "C:\TEMP\BENNY\WORKFILES\VID_00015.AVS.MKV"

//LD Could you post the INF file and the LOG?

[jdobbs]

Updated the first post of this thread with links to a new version (v0.23.02). The changes for this version are:

June 20th, 2009 - v0.23.02
- Corrected an error in which a file may incorrectly
be flagged as no reencode and cause oversizing.
- Updated X264.EXE to newer version (r1169)
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

June 18th, 2009 - v0.23.01
- Added the --fps parameter to the X264 command line
to circumvent possible inconsistencies in source
frame serving.
- Added code to detect pulldown in VC-1 sources and
perform special handling (e.g. auto removal).
- Changed the method of updating the progress bar
back to that in v0.21.01. It seems the O/S isn't
consistent returning window handles.
- Corrected an error in which field deinterlacing
could fail when the output of the source codec was
not YUY2 or YV12.
- Corrected an issue related to sources with pulldown
that could result in audio synch errors.
- Changed the default value of the FIX_CLPI hidden INI
setting. The CLPI errors were fixed in TSMUXER and
this is typically no longer needed. If you are using
an older version of TSMUXER rather than the one that
is shipped with BD-RB, however, please add FIX_CLPI=1
to the "Options" area of your config (INI) file.
- Fixed some overall progress reporting errors when
resuming a movie-only encode.
- Added code to identify troublesome (field based)
VC-1 interlaced files. In BD-25 backups they are (if
not the main-feature) automatically copied intact to
prevent CODEC failures during encoding with X264.
NOTE: Setting the RESIZE option will disable this
feature.
- Added two flags to the streams list following the fps
indicator. "*" means the source is PULLDOWN. "**"
(BD5/9 only) means the source is FIELD BASED interlaced
VC-1 and will be BLANKED during reencoding. Audio
will playback correctly, but with a blank screen. This
is required in order to prevent CODEC failures on these
sources. If you see a lot of "**" flags, you may want
to consider movie-only mode.
- Added a hidden option called "DISABLE_VC1_FIX=1" this
will disable the the two changes above (intact copy and
blanking) -- just in case a CODEC is discovered that
properly handles these streams. Flags will still be
displayed.
- Added code to detect when a video source does not
require encoding to meet target size goals, and keep it
intact. Please note that the decision contains more
than meets the eye. For example, if an M2TS is a part
of more than one MPLS and a component portion of the
other cannot be kept intact -- it may not qualify and
requires encoding.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbsPlease check it again -- and make sure you aren't using the last version by mistake. I GUARANTEE the GUI code for grabbing status is no different than it was in the earlier versions before this was first reported. Others are saying they aren't seeing it anymore. If it is still doing this, please try it with an earlier version of X264. It would be the only thing related to this that has changed.

Is this something that only happens on Windows 7, maybe? I'm using Vista and never once (with encodes running pretty much 24hrs a day) have I ever seen it happen.

By the way... what is "2/"? Did you mean "2/2"? Is it actually reporting it that way?

1) It is DEFINITELY v.0.23.01 - It's still running and is at 59.30% Current and 79.70% Overall Progress.

2) Yes, I meant "2/2" - And it also showed "Frames 156,240/156,240!

3) I'm using a machine with Vista Home Premium SP2

4) I never had this happen with ANY of the previous versions, up to and including 0.22.02 - and as I initially stated - I had two non-problematic conversions using v.0.23.01 before encountering this (Again, it's an MPEG-2 format movie in this BluRay).

5) When "Night at the Museum" is finished, I'll use the SAME setup to convert another, different BluRay. If I encounter the same progress bar problem, I'll then swap in an earlier version of x264 and re-try - and will then advise you of the results.

**EDIT** Since you've just released another version, 0.23.02, I'll try it first...

[LowDead]

Could you post the INF file and the LOG?

INF:

[Status]
LABEL=THE_CURIOUS_CASE_OF_BENJAMIN_BUTTON
VERSION=v0.23.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43982327792
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=43839043584
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.546863294270175
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;swe;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
AUDIO=1000000000
PGS=1000000000000000010000000
M2TS_TARGET=23874570400
RATE=15594
NSIZE=10635644928
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=99393392
RATE=2156
NSIZE=88565760
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

LOG:
-----------------------
[16:47:19] BD Rebuilder v0.23.01 (beta)
- Source: THE_CURIOUS_CASE_OF_BENJAMIN_BUTTON
- Input BD size: 40,96 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:51:43.584]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[16:47:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:47:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:02:53] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [23:54:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [23:54:26] Reencoding: VID_00015 (2 of 2)
[00:02:07]PHASE ONE complete
[00:02:07]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:02:07] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:02:11] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:02:11]JOB: THE_CURIOUS_CASE_OF_BENJAMIN_BUTTON completed.

//LD

[Sharc]

Just had a major undersize on benjamin button EUR.. Choosed BD25 output and it came out 10GB.. If there's anything in particilar you need to know JD just let me know.. I have been away from testing due to work for some time know so i'm not sure what I'm supposted to post about bugs ^^

I noticed that Benjamin Button is extremely well compressible (very clean and noise-free, not much motion/action content).
I did a crf 21.5 encode for a 720p resize, and ended up with surprisingly low 2.35GB for the 2h46min video. So I wonder if you just might have run into encoder saturation in your case.

[LowDead]

I noticed that Benjamin Button is extremely well compressible (very clean and noise-free, not much motion/action content).
I did a crf 21.5 encode for a 720p resize, and ended up with surprisingly low 2.35GB for the 2h46min video. So I wonder if you just might have run into encoder saturation in your case.

That is a valid thought. I was suprised myself of how clean it looked even after encoding. Will now try the latest build to see if there was something introduced in 0.23.01. It is VC-1 so you never know.. :)

[jdobbs]

I noticed that Benjamin Button is extremely well compressible (very clean and noise-free, not much motion/action content).
I did a crf 21.5 encode for a 720p resize, and ended up with surprisingly low 2.35GB for the 2h46min video. So I wonder if you just might have run into encoder saturation in your case.If it were saturation, though, you'd expect to see a specified bitrate that was much higher than 2.15 Mbs...

[Edit] Whoops -- I stand corrected, the INF shows that not to be the case. The low bitrate posted earlier was for the small 99MB component (00015) -- the main feature was encoded at 15.5Mbs... One of only two things could have happened. Either there was saturation or the film didn't completely reencode. If it were the second, though it should have flagged the error. I think it was saturation also, which of course is a good thing, as it means that even though it is undersize -- it is high quality.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

1) It is DEFINITELY v.0.23.01 - It's still running and is at 59.30% Current and 79.70% Overall Progress.

2) Yes, I meant "2/2" - And it also showed "Frames 156,240/156,240!

3) I'm using a machine with Vista Home Premium SP2

4) I never had this happen with ANY of the previous versions, up to and including 0.22.02 - and as I initially stated - I had two non-problematic conversions using v.0.23.01 before encountering this (Again, it's an MPEG-2 format movie in this BluRay).

5) When "Night at the Museum" is finished, I'll use the SAME setup to convert another, different BluRay. If I encounter the same progress bar problem, I'll then swap in an earlier version of x264 and re-try - and will then advise you of the results.

**EDIT** Since you've just released another version, 0.23.02, I'll try it first... If you do -- please try it with X264 version r1153 or r1145. The only other change that might affect that was the X264 update. Another option would be to run with "SHOW_ENCODER=1". BD-RB is looking at the caption of the window to get it's status reporting... see if there is anything odd happening there.

You might also try one of the older version with the newer X264.

I am just baffled as to how this could start happening out of nowhere -- happen only to certain people, and never happen to me. In the next version I'm going to put a STATUS message if it never finds the window handle, just so I know if that is definitely it.

[MikeyBK]

Just FYI JD... the stuck at 50% has not showed up for me using versions 0.23.01 or 0.23.02....they've all shown the progress status properly so far.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Just to let you know that v.0.23.02 (as is, with the version of x264 you included in this v.0.23.02 zip package) properly and completely processed the movie-only version of "Night at the Museum", using the identical settings I had previously used with v.0.23.01.

The progress bars (and related frame ifo, etc., below the progress bars) displayed and progressed properly throughout the process...

(This was started well before your most recent post)

[LowDead]

If it were saturation, though, you'd expect to see a specified bitrate that was much higher than 2.15 Mbs...

[Edit] Whoops -- I stand corrected, the INF shows that not to be the case. The low bitrate posted earlier was for the small 99MB component (00015) -- the main feature was encoded at 15.5Mbs... One of only two things could have happened. Either there was saturation or the film didn't completely reencode. If it were the second, though it should have flagged the error. I think it was saturation also, which of course is a good thing, as it means that even though it is undersize -- it is high quality.

hehe.. I missed that one too.. I thought it was the main movie that was encoded at 2.15mbs.. All I can say is that this one is strange.. Tried a manual encode to BD25 movie only which resulted in an 10GB oversize.. Although when I did a manual movie only DVD9, it went spot on. Great quality on all encodes I have tested though.

//LD

[Category 5]

If it were saturation, though, you'd expect to see a specified bitrate that was much higher than 2.15 Mbs...

[Edit] Whoops -- I stand corrected, the INF shows that not to be the case. The low bitrate posted earlier was for the small 99MB component (00015) -- the main feature was encoded at 15.5Mbs... One of only two things could have happened. Either there was saturation or the film didn't completely reencode. If it were the second, though it should have flagged the error. I think it was saturation also, which of course is a good thing, as it means that even though it is undersize -- it is high quality.

The Us version, movie only, re-encoded to fill 96% of a BD25, and it does look fantastic as a re-code. Why would VC-1 source from a different region behave so differently?

[jdobbs]

The Us version, movie only, re-encoded to fill 96% of a BD25, and it does look fantastic as a re-code. Why would VC-1 source from a different region behave so differently? No clue.

@LowDead

It plays through from end-to-end? Nothing missing? If so, it has to be saturation... otherwise the size would be a lot large with a 15.5Mbs bitrate set. It may be hitting qpmin (I'm believe it defaults to 10). You could look at the stats file and see what q you are getting. If it is predominately 10, then this is definitely the reason for the undersize.

[LowDead]

No clue.

@LowDead

It plays through from end-to-end? Nothing missing? If so, it has to be saturation... otherwise the size would be a lot large with a 15.5Mbs bitrate set. It may be hitting qpmin (I'm believe it defaults to 10). You could look at the stats file and see what q you are getting. If it is predominately 10, then this is definitely the reason for the undersize.

The q's are approx. around 20 and qpmin is set to 10. Cannot check right now if it plays through. The last encode seemed to be complete (full runtime in mpc). Now I'm doing a new encode with the same config but with latest build. Tomorrow I want to test what happens if I do COMPLETE FULL backup (with ALL audio and sub tracks) to see how BD-RB will behave. If it is saturation it should end up around 21gig as all the tracks are about 10gb. But what will happen with calculations? BD-RB will "see" that it needs to lower the bitrate and it will undersize even more? That test will be interesting :)

Also.. Can someone more do a new test with Benjamin Button (US and EUR). Full BD25 encodes with best quality. This could answer if something is different between the both versions and also it could rule out that I'm a complete idiot and/or my system is messed up ^^

Quick update: The encode just finished. Worked flawlessly with v0.23.02. Exact same config and setup as before. 24GB, 97% filled BD25 :)

//LD

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I just used v.0.23.02 (as is, with the "tools" included in the zip) to process a "movie-only" version of "Speed Racer" (2008 movie), a VC-1 format BluRay.

No anomalies were noted - The progress bars performed and displayed properly throughout the conversion and the VC-1 video was properly converted and compressed.

This is now the second movie I've processed with this version, with no problems noted...

[jdobbs]

Hehehe... I'm working on PiP (secondary audio/video) right now. I've also added some code to make target sizing more accurate (thanks to some good research I got from lithiumus).

Good to know 23.2 seems to be working out well.

[Capsbackup]

Hehehe... I'm working on PiP (secondary audio/video) right now. I've also added some code to make target sizing more accurate (thanks to some good research I got from lithiumus).

Good to know 23.2 seems to be working out well.

PIP ?? Well that would be awesome!! If you can complete this task, I'll place you up there with that prophet that parted the waters!! LOL :p
I have always been impressed with your software programing skills, and this would just be another great achievement. I appreciate your efforts. :)

[PurpleMan]

jdobbs,

I asked before (twice I think) and didn't get a reply.

I was wondering if there is a reason for not using the dgdecode tools (DGAVCDecode, DGVC1Decode) with BD-Rebuilder?

That would achieve consistency in the decoding process on various platforms and boxes.

Thanks again!

[spida_singh]

jdobbs

I tried a full backup of Kung Fu Panda UK Disc, encoding went through fine apart from actually building the structure. Is there anyway I can build the structure manually?

BD-Rebuilder Code:

-----------------------
[21:23:49] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: KUNG_FU_PANDA_EN
- Input BD size: 44.48 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:24.671]
- Target BD size: 8.94 GB
[21:23:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:23:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [21:37:05] Reencoding: VID_00004 (1 of 52)
- [23:16:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [23:18:07] Reencoding: VID_00005 (2 of 52)
- [23:57:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [23:58:33] Reencoding: VID_00006 (3 of 52)
- [00:19:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [00:19:46] Reencoding: VID_00007 (4 of 52)
- [00:24:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [00:24:39] Reencoding: VID_00008 (5 of 52)
- [00:31:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [00:32:08] Reencoding: VID_00009 (6 of 52)
- [00:41:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [00:41:22] Reencoding: VID_00010 (7 of 52)
- [00:48:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [00:49:00] Reencoding: VID_00011 (8 of 52)
- [01:07:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [01:07:59] Reencoding: VID_00012 (9 of 52)
- [01:17:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [01:18:16] Reencoding: VID_00013 (10 of 52)
- [01:27:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [01:28:01] Reencoding: VID_00014 (11 of 52)
- [01:36:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [01:37:09] Reencoding: VID_00015 (12 of 52)
- [01:43:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [01:43:51] Reencoding: VID_00016 (13 of 52)
- [01:54:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [01:54:47] Reencoding: VID_00017 (14 of 52)
- [01:57:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [01:58:03] Reencoding: VID_00018 (15 of 52)
- [02:02:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [02:02:56] Reencoding: VID_00019 (16 of 52)
- [02:06:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [02:06:52] Reencoding: VID_00020 (17 of 52)
- [02:10:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [02:10:32] Reencoding: VID_00021 (18 of 52)
- [02:12:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [02:12:47] Reencoding: VID_00022 (19 of 52)
- [02:16:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [02:16:30] Reencoding: VID_00023 (20 of 52)
- [02:27:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [02:27:51] Reencoding: VID_00024 (21 of 52)
- [02:34:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [02:34:55] Reencoding: VID_00026 (22 of 52)
- [02:49:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00104]
- [02:50:02] Reencoding: VID_00104 (23 of 52)
- [02:53:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
- [02:53:28] Reencoding: VID_00105 (24 of 52)
- [02:57:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00107]
- [02:57:06] Reencoding: VID_00107 (25 of 52)
- [02:59:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00108]
- [02:59:48] Reencoding: VID_00108 (26 of 52)
- [03:04:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00109]
- [03:04:21] Reencoding: VID_00109 (27 of 52)
- [03:08:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00110]
- [03:08:44] Reencoding: VID_00110 (28 of 52)
- [03:12:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00111]
- [03:12:46] Reencoding: VID_00111 (29 of 52)
- [03:16:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00121]
- [03:16:30] Reencoding: VID_00121 (30 of 52)
- [03:19:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00122]
- [03:19:24] Reencoding: VID_00122 (31 of 52)
- [03:20:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00123]
- [03:20:13] Reencoding: VID_00123 (32 of 52)
- [03:26:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00142]
- [03:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00142 (33 of 52)
- [03:29:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00143]
- [03:29:41] Reencoding: VID_00143 (34 of 52)
- [03:29:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00146]
- [03:30:01] Reencoding: VID_00146 (35 of 52)
- [03:32:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00147]
- [03:32:35] Reencoding: VID_00147 (36 of 52)
- [03:33:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00148]
- [03:33:08] Reencoding: VID_00148 (37 of 52)
- [03:35:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00149]
- [03:35:38] Reencoding: VID_00149 (38 of 52)
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- [03:37:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00151]
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- [03:38:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00152]
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- [03:38:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00153]
- [03:38:55] Reencoding: VID_00153 (42 of 52)
- [03:40:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00154]
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- [03:44:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00156]
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- [03:48:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00159]
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- [03:49:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00612]
- [03:49:12] Reencoding: VID_00612 (52 of 52)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00612.meta
[03:49:14] - Failed to build structure, aborted

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VERSION=v0.23.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=47758113690
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=40742940672
TARGET_SIZE=9594470400
REDUCTION=6.33066081990637E-02
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=4
COMPLETED=51
[00004]
AUDIO=1000000000
PGS=10000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=1550574245
NSIZE=6541873152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=1
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RATE=899
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FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=66745593
RATE=891
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FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00007]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=18046382
RATE=846
NSIZE=18991104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=34843828
RATE=914
NSIZE=36599808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=45099036
RATE=910
NSIZE=47407104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=35079924
RATE=913
NSIZE=36851712
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=77381979
RATE=903
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FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=50149238
RATE=913
NSIZE=52733952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=48198236
RATE=910
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FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00014]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=36208673
RATE=904
NSIZE=37976064
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=22554769
RATE=928
NSIZE=23666688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=42197426
RATE=901
NSIZE=44249088
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=14331465
RATE=1027
NSIZE=15009792
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=21848814
RATE=983
NSIZE=22751232
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00019]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000000000
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RATE=994
NSIZE=17399808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00020]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=15749209
RATE=976
NSIZE=16422912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=9252870
RATE=982
NSIZE=9787392
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=14643797
RATE=1006
NSIZE=15249408
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=44057801
RATE=892
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FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00024]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=27549350
RATE=892
NSIZE=28901376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00026]
AUDIO=0100000
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=63355455
RATE=979
NSIZE=66232320
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00104]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=12223325
RATE=1012
NSIZE=12736512
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00105]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
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RATE=1010
NSIZE=13688832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00107]
AUDIO=0100000
PGS=01000000
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RATE=1005
NSIZE=10033152
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00108]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
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RATE=1011
NSIZE=19365888
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00109]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=19039386
RATE=1008
NSIZE=19783680
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00110]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
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RATE=1011
NSIZE=15962112
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00111]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
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RATE=1013
NSIZE=13584384
FLINK=0
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[00121]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=6707932
RATE=504
NSIZE=9431040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00122]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=1738632
RATE=484
NSIZE=1898496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00123]
AUDIO=1000000
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=23859327
RATE=998
NSIZE=24803328
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00142]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=7385882
RATE=504
NSIZE=8828928
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00143]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=558152
RATE=442
NSIZE=626688
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00146]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=7205406
RATE=489
NSIZE=7944192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00147]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=1262162
RATE=472
NSIZE=1406976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00148]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=7768614
RATE=502
NSIZE=8558592
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00149]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=2815262
RATE=504
NSIZE=3102720
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00150]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=3774427
RATE=501
NSIZE=4141056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00151]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=2798926
RATE=500
NSIZE=3078144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00152]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=158694
RATE=568
NSIZE=178176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00153]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=6551183
RATE=488
NSIZE=7163904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00154]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=6570630
RATE=490
NSIZE=7225344
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00155]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=6563629
RATE=490
NSIZE=7139328
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00156]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=6547293
RATE=488
NSIZE=7206912
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00157]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=6584633
RATE=492
NSIZE=7243776
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00158]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=163361
RATE=590
NSIZE=178176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00159]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=159083
RATE=570
NSIZE=172032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00160]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=159472
RATE=572
NSIZE=172032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00161]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=160639
RATE=577
NSIZE=178176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00162]
AUDIO=1
PGS=01000000
M2TS_TARGET=158694
RATE=568
NSIZE=178176
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00612]
AUDIO=0100000
PGS=01000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=5056


Meta file in question

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --blu-ray --vbr --auto-chapters=5 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "I:\VIDEOS\MOVIES\KUNG.FU.PANDA\WORKFILES\VID_00612.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "I:\VIDEOS\MOVIES\KUNG.FU.PANDA\WORKFILES\00612.track_4353.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "I:\VIDEOS\MOVIES\KUNG.FU.PANDA\WORKFILES\00612.track_4609.sup", fps=23.976, lang=eng


regards

[jdobbs]

jdobbs,

I asked before (twice I think) and didn't get a reply.

I was wondering if there is a reason for not using the dgdecode tools (DGAVCDecode, DGVC1Decode) with BD-Rebuilder?

That would achieve consistency in the decoding process on various platforms and boxes.

Thanks again! Yes. It would require someone to buy/donate something before they can use BD-RB. If you have to buy something -- it is no longer freeware.

BTW, I fully support Neuron2's concept of a required donation. That's what I do for DVD Rebuilder Professional Edition as well. It has been my experience to date that if you don't require it you will be very disappointed. People just generally want a free ride.

[gizzin]

Yes. It would require someone to buy/donate something before they can use BD-RB. If you have to buy something -- it is no longer freeware.

BTW, I fully support Neuron2's concept of a required donation. That's what I do for DVD Rebuilder Professional Edition as well. It has been my experience to date that if you don't require it you will be very disappointed. People just generally want a free ride.

lol, keep up the good work jdobbs.

[tekmobile]

Just got a encoder fail on doing the second pass of a very small file that BD-RB says needs doing because its part of another playlist

a screengrab of x264 shows this error as its reason


avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps (6 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Slow
x264 [error]: requested bitrate is too low. estimated minimum is 28 kbps
x264 [error]: x265_encoder_open failed


LASTCMD.txt

"F:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "F:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00057.AVS" --bitrate 5 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 7 --me umh --ref 3 --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "F:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00057.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "F:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00057.AVS.MKV"


The M2TS ReEncoded before this one was pretty much identical just a black screen but this one encoded without problems

To sort it I copied and renamed the MKV encoded in the previous step since it was pretty much the same size/content to match the one that failed and changed the step in the BDREBUILDER.INF file so it would skip the encoding of the file and proceed to the multiplexing of the MKV I copied/renamed it then completed ok

[liquidskin76]

@jdobbs

Just curious (again!)... how does BD-RB handle forced subs in Movie Only encodes? By forced, i mean subs that automatically appear when a foreign language is spoken in an english language film?

Kill Bill 1 is an example.

Cheers

[Category 5]

@jdobbs

Just curious (again!)... how does BD-RB handle forced subs in Movie Only encodes? By forced, i mean subs that automatically appear when a foreign language is spoken in an english language film?

Kill Bill 1 is an example.

Cheers

When i did KB1 I have to manually add the second sub stream before backing up, and then use "Correct BD" to force them to on. It would be cool if there was a switch in BD-Rebuilder to allow selecting and forcing of these streams, but I know of no way yet.

[PurpleMan]

Yes. It would require someone to buy/donate something before they can use BD-RB. If you have to buy something -- it is no longer freeware.

BTW, I fully support Neuron2's concept of a required donation. That's what I do for DVD Rebuilder Professional Edition as well. It has been my experience to date that if you don't require it you will be very disappointed. People just generally want a free ride.

You must have misunderstood something. I wasn't talking about the nVidia based DG tools, but rather the FREE libavcodec based ones.

There are 2 versions:

DGAVCDecode (freeware, libavcodec) vs. DGAVCDecodeNV (donation-ware, nvidia powered)
DGVC1Decode (freeware, libavcodec) vs. DGVC1DecodeNV (donation-ware, nvidia powered)

So I was wondering why not use the FREE libavcodec based ones, like you use in DVD Rebuilder (dgdecode). That way you can be sure EVERYONE are using the same decoder and no directshow compatibility issues. Not even under Windows 7.

[Guest]

There is no DGVC1Dec that uses libavcodec.

And DGAVCDec that uses libavcodec fails on some PAFF streams. The newer libavcodec versions have regressions that make accurate random access impossible, otherwise I would have updated long ago.

[aquanash]

June 20th, 2009 - v0.23.02
- Corrected an error in which a file may incorrectly
be flagged as no reencode and cause oversizing.


Wow, that was quick! I will test this fix later tonight.

:thanks:

[aquanash]

When i did KB1 I have to manually add the second sub stream before backing up, and then use "Correct BD" to force them to on. It would be cool if there was a switch in BD-Rebuilder to allow selecting and forcing of these streams, but I know of no way yet.

What is "Correct BD"? I can't seem to find anything on it. I've been using BDedit to manually add the SetStream command to force subtitles. I agree this would be a great feature to add to BD-Rebuilder and also auto detection of forced subtitles if possible.

[PurpleMan]

There is no DGVC1Dec that uses libavcodec.

And DGAVCDec that uses libavcodec fails on some PAFF streams. The newer libavcodec versions have regressions that make accurate random access impossible, otherwise I would have updated long ago.

Thank you for clarifying! :)

[Category 5]

What is "Correct BD"? I can't seem to find anything on it. I've been using BDedit to manually add the SetStream command to force subtitles. I agree this would be a great feature to add to BD-Rebuilder and also auto detection of forced subtitles if possible.

This wa courtesy of deank who helped when I had the same problem, but here is a link to the tool

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146412

[jdobbs]

Just got a encoder fail on doing the second pass of a very small file that BD-RB says needs doing because its part of another playlist

a screengrab of x264 shows this error as its reason


avis [info]: 1920x1080 @ 23.98 fps (6 frames)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Slow
x264 [error]: requested bitrate is too low. estimated minimum is 28 kbps
x264 [error]: x265_encoder_open failed


LASTCMD.txt

"F:\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "F:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00057.AVS" --bitrate 5 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 7 --me umh --ref 3 --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "F:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00057.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 2 --output "F:\OUTPUT\WORKFILES\VID_00057.AVS.MKV"


The M2TS ReEncoded before this one was pretty much identical just a black screen but this one encoded without problems

To sort it I copied and renamed the MKV encoded in the previous step since it was pretty much the same size/content to match the one that failed and changed the step in the BDREBUILDER.INF file so it would skip the encoding of the file and proceed to the multiplexing of the MKV I copied/renamed it then completed ok That ain't good. I'll fix it. I think logic dictates that specifying a bitrate of 5 may be too low, eh? :p

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Just curious (again!)... how does BD-RB handle forced subs in Movie Only encodes? By forced, i mean subs that automatically appear when a foreign language is spoken in an english language film?

Kill Bill 1 is an example.

Cheers Right now it doesn't.

[GaPony]

FWIW, I always make sure all English subs are selected (since I never know which is which) and they seem to be working pretty consistently for the movies I've done. It's not often that I've needed to turn them on.

[Category 5]

Tried to do Step Brothers US Version full disc at get Failed Retry at 99.9% point. Latest version. Don't think it's VC-1

- [01:38:36] Reencoding: VID_00384 (55 of 63)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[01:38:40] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas?

[drmih]

Try playing the problem file in media player classic - if it's pixelated it's either vc-1 or not ripped properly.

If you just want to complete the encode you can just increment the ini file to move on and copy it manually - as you're at 99% it won't cause the disc to be oversized.

[bassnut]

Nice work JDobbs ........ Just sent a donation sorry it took so long but paypal can be slow sometimes.

Cheers Paul

[jdobbs]

Tried to do Step Brothers US Version full disc at get Failed Retry at 99.9% point. Latest version. Don't think it's VC-1

- [01:38:36] Reencoding: VID_00384 (55 of 63)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[01:38:40] - Failed video encode, aborted

Any ideas?Look at the LASTCMD.TXT file and see if the bitrate is set to some very low value (it may be related to post #3459). If so, change it and then cut/paste it into a CMD window to run. If it completes, then just increment the COMPLETED=x parameter in BDREBUILDER.INF and resume the encode.

[spida_singh]

any idea why the building failed? See my previous post

- [03:49:12] Reencoding: VID_00612 (52 of 52)
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00612.meta
[03:49:14] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[PurpleMan]

I don't know if this is a new issue or has always been liked that, or even if it's supposed to be like that, but here goes:

Used latest version to do The Truman Show. I added the KEEP_INTERLACING setting to the settings file, and it did, in fact, kept it interlaced.

Thing is, when playing the original disc, the player deinterlaces it on-the-fly. But when playing the BD-RB copy, it seems to think that the file is progressive, so the combing effect is all over the place.

Any idea?

[Furiousflea]

I don't know if this is a new issue or has always been liked that, or even if it's supposed to be like that, but here goes:

Used latest version to do The Truman Show. I added the KEEP_INTERLACING setting to the settings file, and it did, in fact, kept it interlaced.

Thing is, when playing the original disc, the player deinterlaces it on-the-fly. But when playing the BD-RB copy, it seems to think that the file is progressive, so the combing effect is all over the place.

Any idea?

What are you using to play the backed up disc? (107 posts and registered 2003....christ!...detail!) :)

If you're playing it in media player classic as an m2ts etc then it will have the zig zags still there. If you're playing it on a hardware standalone player then something is wrong somewhere. I have done a good 10-12 discs like this and the on the fly de interlacing seems to work as it should on the backup this is on a Sony S550.

[PurpleMan]

What are you using to play the backed up disc? (107 posts and registered 2003....christ!...detail!) :)

If you're playing it in media player classic as an m2ts etc then it will have the zig zags still there. If you're playing it on a hardware standalone player then something is wrong somewhere. I have done a good 10-12 discs like this and the on the fly de interlacing seems to work as it should on the backup this is on a Sony S550.

Obviously not in media player classic as I mentioned that the original disc DOES deinterlace :) I was playing on PowerDVD (7 and 9). Loading original disc - works great. Loading BD-RB copy - interlacing combing effects.

[SuSELinux]

Hi together :)

First of all: Great tool!!! Works fine for me with a few BD-50 to DVD9 Movie-Only Backups.
But VC-1 under Windows 7 x64 don't work fine. First i got a Encode Aborted Error.

Then I deleted the preferred Registry-Folder and set wmv9 as Decoder for VC-1 (as mentioned in this thread a few pages earlier).
My english is not the best. Maybe i don't understand something!?

My test-film is "Mirrors". With the registry-hack it encodes but it didn't play in PowerDVD 9 (internal error). In my standalone Sony BDP-S550 it plays, but the picture-quality is not so good as other Encodes to DVD-9. Is this a problem with VC-1 or do i anything wrong?

Thanks very much!

[bobrap]

Does my join date and # of posts warrant a "christ"?:devil:

[Guest]

Does my join date and # of posts warrant a "christ"?:devil: Don't know but this post warrants a rule 11 strike. Follow up to PM please.

[Furiousflea]

Obviously not in media player classic as I mentioned that the original disc DOES deinterlace :) I was playing on PowerDVD (7 and 9). Loading original disc - works great. Loading BD-RB copy - interlacing combing effects.

That does sound like a bug then...:) ....hmmm

[Furiousflea]

Hi together :)

First of all: Great tool!!! Works fine for me with a few BD-50 to DVD9 Movie-Only Backups.
But VC-1 under Windows 7 x64 don't work fine. First i got a Encode Aborted Error.

Then I deleted the preferred Registry-Folder and set wmv9 as Decoder for VC-1 (as mentioned in this thread a few pages earlier).
My english is not the best. Maybe i don't understand something!?

My test-film is "Mirrors". With the registry-hack it encodes but it didn't play in PowerDVD 9 (internal error). In my standalone Sony BDP-S550 it plays, but the picture-quality is not so good as other Encodes to DVD-9. Is this a problem with VC-1 or do i anything wrong?

Thanks very much!

Might want to read this...

Windows 7 is not supported as of yet. Don't expect any help, I think this is the official line. I'd start a new thread personally as this is for bug reports in BD-Rebuilders intended environment (not having a go, but I sincerely believe this is jdobbs viewpoint at least for the moment). <- this isn't a quote, just put it in quotes since it doesn't pertain directly to your question...

However in answer to your question on picture quality, a backup to dvd9 even in movie only mode won't guarantee a good picture for long movies 2.5-3 hours+ will look noticeably worse on 32inch+ screens (rough guess\depends on sources\lots of things\ball park estimates)

[drmih]

Mirrors isn't a good disc to check as I tried and it's a branching version with theatrical and extended - it seems that there are lots of m2ts parts which it puts together in different ways. I never managed a playable full version and eventually used tsmuxer to create the extended version which I then did as movie only to bd-5 but the quality was fine.

[Furiousflea]

Obviously not in media player classic as I mentioned that the original disc DOES deinterlace :) I was playing on PowerDVD (7 and 9). Loading original disc - works great. Loading BD-RB copy - interlacing combing effects.

I've just completed "Take That: The Ultimate Tour" disc, which is comprised of ALL 1080i with 1 or 2 480i segments material in mpeg4avc format using latest BDRB 23.02...

To my surprise the backup is worthless, the intro before the menu has extreme flickering (ala wrong field order deinterlacing before encoding). Also the menu text overlay simply isn't there (just has menu video playing and navigating doesn't work either) using PowerDVD9 original disc does works perfectly fine though....Very strange.

I have done discs with first version that supported keeping the interlaced material as interlaced with no problems. jdobbs has something changed with the interlacing thing?

Thanx, Rob

[bassnut]

Just did Spiderman 2 and ran into a fairly big oversize. Finished files ready to burn with Imgbrn 26,063,621,745 byes ....... that would be about a Gig over. Full backup to BD25 with 2 english HD Audio and all subs

[aquanash]

June 20th, 2009 - v0.23.02
- Corrected an error in which a file may incorrectly
be flagged as no reencode and cause oversizing.


I was finally able to test this fix and there is no longer oversizing with Frost/Nixon (US). Both video streams are re-encoded and used for muxing the final output. Thanks again for the quick response!

But while working with this same disc I've discovered a separate issue that I don't think is related to the new version of BD-RB (I also tried v0.22.02 and see the same exact issue). The problem is that the chapters are not set properly with this movie. Here is what I'm seeing for the chapters set in MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500

As you can see it creates chapters at the very beginning and the very and of the movie. For some reason it didn't import the full chapter list correctly.

I ran this disc through eac3to to list the titles and it's a little strange in that the first title has the main movie and the short "This movie was rated R" clip seamlessly branched. Then the second title just has the main movie. Only the first title has the chapter list while the second is missing it. It seems as if this is confusing BD-RB or maybe there is some problem handling the seamless branch title. I've never seen this problem on any other discs so it must be something strange about this one that is causing the issue.

If you need any other info just let me know!

[PNYBOY]

Has anyone been able to do 25gb movie only back-up of Sin City, with high-res audio?

[jdobbs]

I've just completed "Take That: The Ultimate Tour" disc, which is comprised of ALL 1080i with 1 or 2 480i segments material in mpeg4avc format using latest BDRB 23.02...

To my surprise the backup is worthless, the intro before the menu has extreme flickering (ala wrong field order deinterlacing before encoding). Also the menu text overlay simply isn't there (just has menu video playing and navigating doesn't work either) using PowerDVD9 original disc does works perfectly fine though....Very strange.

I have done discs with first version that supported keeping the interlaced material as interlaced with no problems. jdobbs has something changed with the interlacing thing?

Thanx, Rob I don't think so, but I'll go back and look at it. Try it without the INTERLACED setting and see if it acts differently. Have you done that specific disc successfully with an older version? There's all kinds of potential for oddness with interlace reencoding (thus the reason I put it off so long), especially with BFF or hybrid sources.

[jdobbs]

I was finally able to test this fix and there is no longer oversizing with Frost/Nixon (US). Both video streams are re-encoded and used for muxing the final output. Thanks again for the quick response!

But while working with this same disc I've discovered a separate issue that I don't think is related to the new version of BD-RB (I also tried v0.22.02 and see the same exact issue). The problem is that the chapters are not set properly with this movie. Here is what I'm seeing for the chapters set in MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500

As you can see it creates chapters at the very beginning and the very and of the movie. For some reason it didn't import the full chapter list correctly.

I ran this disc through eac3to to list the titles and it's a little strange in that the first title has the main movie and the short "This movie was rated R" clip seamlessly branched. Then the second title just has the main movie. Only the first title has the chapter list while the second is missing it. It seems as if this is confusing BD-RB or maybe there is some problem handling the seamless branch title. I've never seen this problem on any other discs so it must be something strange about this one that is causing the issue.

If you need any other info just let me know! I've been doing a lot of testing with Frost/Nixon the last few days. It's a good test for secondary (PiP) video since it has two secondary video tracks.

@Anyone

Has anyone found a way to successfully MUX secondary audio tracks? I've been pulling my hair out... I may have to resort to muxing myself instead of using a tool. Ugghh

[Furiousflea]

I've been doing a lot of testing with Frost/Nixon the last few days. It's a good test for secondary (PiP) video since it has two secondary video tracks.

@Anyone

Has anyone found a way to successfully MUX secondary audio tracks? I've been pulling my hair out... I may have to resort to muxing myself instead of using a tool. Ugghh

tsmuxer can do it through the command line....im sure it was mentioned somewhere that there is a switch to signify a track is a secondary pip style track...

[tekmobile]

tsmuxer can do it through the command line....im sure it was mentioned somewhere that there is a switch to signify a track is a secondary pip style track...

yes there is an option that can be added to the meta file but currently its only supported for video streams not audio.

plus I don't think tsmuxer can demux DTS Express which is pretty common for secondary audio.

[jdobbs]

yes there is an option that can be added to the meta file but currently its only supported for video streams not audio.

plus I don't think tsmuxer can demux DTS Express which is pretty common for secondary audio. That's exactly where I am. It works for the video, but not the audio. I can use EAC3TO to demux them (since TSMUXER can't) -- but then TSMUXER doesn't recognize them for remuxing and I'm right back where I started.

[deank]

roman added the option as a workaround for cropped videos and the subpath includes only the video stream. He is not visiting the forum for some time, but may be an email will bring him back :)

[kooibosmania]

Hi Jdobbs

bug report : still no luck with the star trek bd's

The problem seems to reside in a m2ts file that follows the main movie but is nearly empty and is only a few seconds.
TSmuxer says "some streams not recognized"
if i demux the video the vidstream is not playable by any player.

is it an option to exclude these nearly empty m2ts from encoding?

maybe when reading the mpls files u programmaticly ignore the playitems shorter then x seconds ?

I have seen this in many movies

hope i have been of some help

chearz:thanks:

[tekmobile]

Hi Jdobbs

bug report : still no luck with the star trek bd's

The problem seems to reside in a m2ts file that follows the main movie but is nearly empty and is only a few seconds.
TSmuxer says "some streams not recognized"
if i demux the video the vidstream is not playable by any player.

is it an option to exclude these nearly empty m2ts from encoding?

maybe when reading the mpls files u programmaticly ignore the playitems shorter then x seconds ?

I have seen this in many movies

hope i have been of some help

chearz:thanks:

Problems can still occur by not encoding these files the reason that they still appear would signal that they are part of another playlist that needs encoding and therefore may need to be encoded to match.

Since most discs now use AVC for pretty much all the content maybe the odd bit of MPEG2 the detection of these linked files could be more intelligent but this would most likely cause alot of bugs and you also stand the risk to run into audio mismatches too

[PurpleMan]

Using latest version on "The Matrix", BD-Rebuilder fails with the error:

[21:43:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: MATRIX1
- Input BD size: 36.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:10:23.968]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:43:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:43:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[21:43:24] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I tried to demux the file 00019.m2ts myself, and indeed tsmuxer fails with the message:

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: C:\Matrix\BDMV\STREAM\00019.m2ts

I managed to get the files extracted (had to demux video seperately and then the audio seperately, not together in one go) using tsmuxer. How do I trick BD-RB to think it succeeded so when I resume it will go on and encode it?

[tekmobile]

Using latest version on "The Matrix", BD-Rebuilder fails with the error:

[21:43:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: MATRIX1
- Input BD size: 36.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:10:23.968]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:43:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:43:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[21:43:24] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I tried to demux the file 00019.m2ts myself, and indeed tsmuxer fails with the message:

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: C:\Matrix\BDMV\STREAM\00019.m2ts

I managed to get the files extracted (had to demux video seperately and then the audio seperately, not together in one go) using tsmuxer. How do I trick BD-RB to think it succeeded so when I resume it will go on and encode it?

Open the BDREBUILDER.INF file its stored in the same place as your working path where the WORKFILES directory is.

You will find a line that says ENCODE_STEP=(step_number)

Just change this number up one I think you are on step 0 so change it to a 1 save and resume

IIRC steps are (Correct me if im wrong but this is from the top of my head)

0 = Demux
1 = 1st Pass
2 = 2nd Pass
3 = Audio Encoding
4 = Muliplexing

[Furiousflea]

I don't think so, but I'll go back and look at it. Try it without the INTERLACED setting and see if it acts differently. Have you done that specific disc successfully with an older version? There's all kinds of potential for oddness with interlace reencoding (thus the reason I put it off so long), especially with BFF or hybrid sources.

Hi there, as requested tried without the hidden interlaced option. Results are the same in terms of playability (no menu overlay appears and therefore unplayable). The opening first play video is de-interlaced correctly though...

[jdobbs]

Using latest version on "The Matrix", BD-Rebuilder fails with the error:

[21:43:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: MATRIX1
- Input BD size: 36.10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:10:23.968]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:43:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:43:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[21:43:24] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I tried to demux the file 00019.m2ts myself, and indeed tsmuxer fails with the message:

Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: C:\Matrix\BDMV\STREAM\00019.m2ts

I managed to get the files extracted (had to demux video seperately and then the audio seperately, not together in one go) using tsmuxer. How do I trick BD-RB to think it succeeded so when I resume it will go on and encode it?Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

[aquanash]

I've been doing a lot of testing with Frost/Nixon the last few days. It's a good test for secondary (PiP) video since it has two secondary video tracks.

@Anyone

Has anyone found a way to successfully MUX secondary audio tracks? I've been pulling my hair out... I may have to resort to muxing myself instead of using a tool. Ugghh

Are you seeing the same missing chapters issue? I'm not sure if it is related to PiP, it could be something else. How does BD-RB extract the chapters?

[jdobbs]

Are you seeing the same missing chapters issue? I'm not sure if it is related to PiP, it could be something else. How does BD-RB extract the chapters? I've been doing full-disc backups, so I wouldn't see that. I'll run a movie-only test.

The chapters are defined in the MPLS, and BD-RB pulls them from it.

[Capsbackup]

No problem with chapters for me with movie only or full backup. BD-RB has been correctly placing all chapters the same as original.
I have had absolutely no problems with the last 4 - 5 backups, both movie only BD-5 and full backup to BD-25. Excellent work jdobbs. :)

[Category 5]

Look at the LASTCMD.TXT file and see if the bitrate is set to some very low value (it may be related to post #3459). If so, change it and then cut/paste it into a CMD window to run. If it completes, then just increment the COMPLETED=x parameter in BDREBUILDER.INF and resume the encode.

""C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL
"

I tried incrementing the Completed=x number but it fails on each of the remaining files. they are all ver small files (under 300KB each) and there are 9

Can I just copy them into the workfiles directory manually, and rename them mkv, and then change to completed=65? Obviously there is no need to recode such small files and then I can get on with rebuilding the BD structure

This is what was listed in the last command file

"C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

[drmih]

""C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL
"

I tried incrementing the Completed=x number but it fails on each of the remaining files. they are all ver small files (under 300KB each) and there are 9

Can I just copy them into the workfiles directory manually, and rename them mkv, and then change to completed=65? Obviously there is no need to recode such small files and then I can get on with rebuilding the BD structure

This is what was listed in the last command file

"C:\Users\Category 5\Desktop\bd rebuilder\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS" --bitrate 25000 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 30000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --filter 0,0 --subme 2 --me hex --bframes 3 --8x8dct --direct auto --weightb --trellis 0 --analyse none --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "S:\BD 25-9\STEP BROS FULL BD\WORKFILES\VID_00384.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output NUL

You just need to increment past them and copy the original m2ts files and the associate playback files to the working directory. With the flag incremented it assumes that the process has been complete and everything remuxed, so you wouldn't have the mkv anymore.

[kooibosmania]

Problems can still occur by not encoding these files the reason that they still appear would signal that they are part of another playlist that needs encoding and therefore may need to be encoded to match.

Since most discs now use AVC for pretty much all the content maybe the odd bit of MPEG2 the detection of these linked files could be more intelligent but this would most likely cause alot of bugs and you also stand the risk to run into audio mismatches too

@tekmobile

i have replaced the m2ts file with een selfencoded one of 2 sec now BD-RB works fine.
can anyone explain why so many titles have a trailing m2ts file which is nearly empty.
it is not menu and not popup

I thought that bluray was not restricted to one kind of codec
and what div does one file of 2 sec make to the whole playlist ? The playlist determines what to play in that order.

iam sorry but i don`t agree with your statement, maybe you can elaborate? :thanks:

chearzz :)

[user822]

i possibly found a new way to decode VC1-Interlaced :)

The Decoder that comes with "Sonic Scenarist Blu-ray Edition 4.3" at first seemmed to work(output picture was good):
http://www.abload.de/img/sonic4gkx.png

x264 tried to use it but there was a mistake :-(

[tekmobile]

@tekmobile

i have replaced the m2ts file with een selfencoded one of 2 sec now BD-RB works fine.
can anyone explain why so many titles have a trailing m2ts file which is nearly empty.
it is not menu and not popup

I thought that bluray was not restricted to one kind of codec
and what div does one file of 2 sec make to the whole playlist ? The playlist determines what to play in that order.

iam sorry but i don`t agree with your statement, maybe you can elaborate? :thanks:

chearzz :)

the main issue is that the playlist tells the player the type of video content avc/vc1 etc and every video file in the playlist must be the same codec some players may just ignore the mismatch others may just stop/crash etc

just copying the file will work correctly providing the original video was avc as they will still match but if the original is say vc1 after encoding it will be avc and the playlist will tell the player the codec is avc but the copied file will still be vc1 and not match therefore requires reencoding to avc.

hope that makes sence but im using my phone to reply

[Category 5]

You just need to increment past them and copy the original m2ts files and the associate playback files to the working directory. With the flag incremented it assumes that the process has been complete and everything remuxed, so you wouldn't have the mkv anymore.

So the m2ts files, but what other files need to get copied over? the only ones that look important to me are the mpls files, but there are like 700 of those in the structure and only 392 of the m2ts.

EDIT - I added the M2Ts and incremented past in order to try rebuilding but got the message

"One or more reencoded files are missing (oo384.clpi)

EDIT2 - Added clpi files found in original directory and get "Failure to multiplex"

[Kakashi Sensei]

I probably shouldn't report this yet till I try it with the latest version. But did a backup of Samurai 7 anime BD1 and the first encode i did with both TrueHD audio tracks came up over sized by about 4.5GB (BD25 Encode) then tried it a second time with only the english audio and it was about 4% over sized at 1.5GB.

Used BD-RB 22.02 but will try again tonight with the latest version see if I get the same resaults. If there is some specific info needed from BD-RB or someone is curious let me know.

I just used the standard settings. x264 mode, BD25, Slowest speed.

Great app btw, this is the only disk i've had a problem with trying to backup.

Thanks for the hard work JDobbs!

[isoss]

just done the day the earth stood still full disk to bd25 and it works spot on on both ps3 (i know wooohooooo!) been a coulpe of months since ps3 played a backup and on my BD35 1080p/24 it looks awesome guys :)

how did you do it, it don't work white me

can you tel me what your settings are?

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs

Another bug report: Did "con air" using latest bd-rb. Main movie is split across 3 m2ts files (00000.m2ts, 00008.m2ts, 00009.m2ts).
I have no idea why (no feature on the disc suggests a reason of why it's split)

Anyway, BD-RB output (bd25 full backup) hangs on playback in the point where the movie switches from 00000 to 00008.

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs

Another bug report: Did "con air" using latest bd-rb. Main movie is split across 3 m2ts files (00000.m2ts, 00008.m2ts, 00009.m2ts).
I have no idea why (no feature on the disc suggests a reason of why it's split)

Anyway, BD-RB output (bd25 full backup) hangs on playback in the point where the movie switches from 00000 to 00008.

Sorry, my bad. Turns out it was a powerdvd problem.

However, a different problem does exist - there is an audio gap noticeable in the movie when it swtiches from 00000 to 00008.
I reported this issue on a different title before (I think it was on the movie 21).

[kanerulz69]

never had any problems with any other movies but this one "DAY_EARTH_STOOD_STILL" this is the log file

-----------------------
[21:49:17] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: DAY_EARTH_STOOD_STILL
- Input BD size: 39.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:16:31.237]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[21:49:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:49:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00254]
- [21:49:20] Reencoding: VID_00254 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:49:21] - Failed video encode, aborted

[user822]

never had any problems with any other movies but this one "DAY_EARTH_STOOD_STILL" this is the log file

-----------------------
[21:49:17] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: DAY_EARTH_STOOD_STILL
- Input BD size: 39.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:16:31.237]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[21:49:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:49:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00254]
- [21:49:20] Reencoding: VID_00254 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:49:21] - Failed video encode, aborted


can you post mediainfo of "VID_00254"?

[kanerulz69]

can you post mediainfo of "VID_00254"?

what is mediainfo?

[drmih]

never had any problems with any other movies but this one "DAY_EARTH_STOOD_STILL" this is the log file

-----------------------
[21:49:17] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: DAY_EARTH_STOOD_STILL
- Input BD size: 39.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:16:31.237]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[21:49:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:49:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00254]
- [21:49:20] Reencoding: VID_00254 (1 of 15)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:49:21] - Failed video encode, aborted

I have done this disc fine but I'm currently re-doing The Godfather II (I had blank disc issues with the first one I did) and have also had an Encode Failed. I have gone back to an earlier version of bd-r and it's doing the troublesome file at the moment.

**The Godfather II completed fine using 21.01

[Furiousflea]

Bare in mind there are different regional versions of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (They have different BD+ protection and differ more than most releases)...Also maybe the people who got it to work are talking about the 50s version ;)

[drmih]

Bare in mind there are different regional versions of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (They have different BD+ protection and differ more than most releases)...Also maybe the people who got it to work are talking about the 50s version ;)

Quite right. I have done the Region A version of the new film to full disc on both dvd-9 and bd-25.

On mine 00254.m2ts is a diddy file, second to last on the disc (00255 is the last and is also small). If all you require is to complete the disc just advance on manually and copy them.

[kanerulz69]

Quite right. I have done the Region A version of the new film to full disc on both dvd-9 and bd-25.

On mine 00254.m2ts is a diddy file, second to last on the disc (00255 is the last and is also small). If all you require is to complete the disc just advance on manually and copy them.

im doing quicker encode on extras, there is no way for it to finished properly the way your saying with jus coping them

[kanerulz69]

Bare in mind there are different regional versions of "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (They have different BD+ protection and differ more than most releases)...Also maybe the people who got it to work are talking about the 50s version ;)

yes this is the new one, us blu-ray, so does this mean bd-rb cant do this movie?

[LowDead]

Benjamin Button EUR full complete backup went oversize by maybe 1%, just enough not to fit the disc. So it was no saturation before. Something must have gone wrong in 0.23.01 and fixed in 0.23.02.

INF:

[Status]
LABEL=THE_CURIOUS_CASE_OF_BENJAMIN_BUTTON
VERSION=v0.23.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=43982327792
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=43839043584
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.546863294270175
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
AUDIO=1111111111
PGS=1111111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=23874570400
RATE=10293
NSIZE=24838674432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=99393392
RATE=2156
NSIZE=88571904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

LOG:
-----------------------
[20:52:13] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_CURIOUS_CASE_OF_BENJAMIN_BUTTON
- Input BD size: 40,96 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:51:43.584]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[20:52:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:52:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:11:43] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [08:14:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015]
- [08:14:53] Reencoding: VID_00015 (2 of 2)
[08:22:24]PHASE ONE complete
[08:22:24]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [08:22:24] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[08:22:26] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[08:22:26]JOB: THE_CURIOUS_CASE_OF_BENJAMIN_BUTTON completed.

//LD

[Furiousflea]

That's exactly where I am. It works for the video, but not the audio. I can use EAC3TO to demux them (since TSMUXER can't) -- but then TSMUXER doesn't recognize them for remuxing and I'm right back where I started.

Why not demux the DTS Express track found on PIP tracks then encode it to AC3 with aften and mux that back in place of the DTS Express track and make modifications needed to the mpls\clpi files?

Using AC3 for PIP tracks is within the standards right?

[Category 5]

So the m2ts files, but what other files need to get copied over? the only ones that look important to me are the mpls files, but there are like 700 of those in the structure and only 392 of the m2ts.

EDIT - I added the M2Ts and incremented past in order to try rebuilding but got the message

"One or more reencoded files are missing (oo384.clpi)

EDIT2 - Added clpi files found in original directory and get "Failure to multiplex"

Any more ideas on what i can do to salvage this one before I erase it all and chalk it up to a fail? It looks like the structure is being rebuilt up to the inclusion of the 9 small problem files at the end. Can I just copy those into the new structure or are them some final important steps that will be missing? I think this is a seamless branching issue to be honest.

[tekmobile]

Why not demux the DTS Express track found on PIP tracks then encode it to AC3 with aften and mux that back in place of the DTS Express track and make modifications needed to the mpls\clpi files?

Using AC3 for PIP tracks is within the standards right?

The clpi file is created by tsmuxer not bd-rb and tsmuxer does not have the ability to set the correct PID of the secondary audio.

[drmih]

im doing quicker encode on extras, there is no way for it to finished properly the way your saying with jus coping them

????Why not?

Just copy the two files and clpi to the workfiles directory, increase the increment log by two and that should work.

[drmih]

yes this is the new one, us blu-ray, so does this mean bd-rb cant do this movie?

As I said above I have done this and Region A is USA. It would have been an earlier version of br-rb, so perhaps drop back a couple of versions.

[drmih]

Any more ideas on what i can do to salvage this one before I erase it all and chalk it up to a fail? It looks like the structure is being rebuilt up to the inclusion of the 9 small problem files at the end. Can I just copy those into the new structure or are them some final important steps that will be missing? I think this is a seamless branching issue to be honest.

You need to copy the m2ts files from the original BMDV\STREAM to the working directory and also the corresponding clpi from BMDV\CLIPINF, then increment the .inf file for each one you have replaced.

[jdobbs]

Why not demux the DTS Express track found on PIP tracks then encode it to AC3 with aften and mux that back in place of the DTS Express track and make modifications needed to the mpls\clpi files?

Using AC3 for PIP tracks is within the standards right?I can't find anything that decodes it either (to reencode). It isn't recognized as standard DTS. Also, the only types of streams allowed for secondary audio are DTS Express and Dolby Digital Plus -- and I don't know of any freeware encoders for those.

[jdobbs]

I probably shouldn't report this yet till I try it with the latest version. But did a backup of Samurai 7 anime BD1 and the first encode i did with both TrueHD audio tracks came up over sized by about 4.5GB (BD25 Encode) then tried it a second time with only the english audio and it was about 4% over sized at 1.5GB.

Used BD-RB 22.02 but will try again tonight with the latest version see if I get the same resaults. If there is some specific info needed from BD-RB or someone is curious let me know.

I just used the standard settings. x264 mode, BD25, Slowest speed.

Great app btw, this is the only disk i've had a problem with trying to backup.

Thanks for the hard work JDobbs! I've modified my muxing parameters for the next version to be more accurate. Dolby TrueHD is the cause of most oversizing. It isn't unusual to see 40% muxing overhead (in TSMUXER) on those streams.

[Furiousflea]

I can't find anything that decodes it either (to reencode). It isn't recognized as standard DTS. Also, the only types of streams allowed for secondary audio are DTS Express and Dolby Digital Plus -- and I don't know of any freeware encoders for those.

The Arcsoft decoder in TMT decodes it but it isn't freeware so...

Could be a big problem, good luck.

[jlriv]

Strange phenomenom each time I used the latest version of bdrebuilder (everything worked fine with the other one) and I used it twice : first with "Gandhi", second with "The professionals" : the video is 4/3 letterboxed
Here's what media info says of the converted bd :
Nom complet : O:\professionals rmd\PROFESSIONALS_UK\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
Taille du fichier : 21,7 Gio
Durée : 1h 57mn
Débit global moyen : 26,4 Mb/s
Débit global maximum : 35,5 Mb/s

Vidéo
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
ID de menu : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format : High@L4.1
Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 3 images
Durée : 1h 57mn
Débit : 24,7 Mb/s
Débit nominal : 21,0 Mb/s
Largeur : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur : 1 440 pixels
Format à l'écran : 4/3
Images par seconde : 23,976 Im/s
Résolution : 24 bits
Colorimétrie : 4:2:0
Type d'image : Progressif
Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.373
Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 67 r1163 3f56e27
Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.2 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=20953 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.8

Any idea what's going on (I guess there's no 4/3 option... So ?...)

Thanks (I use windows xp2)

Sorry I hadn't thought mediainfo was in French but you see the problem.

[setarip_old]

@jlriv

Hi!

Would you please explicitly state - What is the "strange phenomenon" you've encountered?

[Atak_Snajpera]

I think it should be 1440x1080 instead of 1920x1440

[jdobbs]

Is that the original or the BD-RB output? It is definitely not within standards if it is truly 1920x1440.

[jlriv]

@jlriv

Hi!

Would you please explicitly state - What is the "strange phenomenon" you've encountered?

as i described in my post : the result is 4/3... not 16/9 as it should.

[jlriv]

Is that the original or the BD-RB output? It is definitely not within standards if it is truly 1920x1440.
It is the bd output. The original is 1920*1080. And the result is a 4/3 letterboxed 2.35:1 movie instead of 16/9 letterboxed as it should. THe first time it happened I thought it was some trouble with the original movie.

[Furiousflea]

It is the bd output. The original is 1920*1080. And the result is a 4/3 letterboxed 2.35:1 movie instead of 16/9 letterboxed as it should. THe first time it happened I thought it was some trouble with the original movie.

So you're not talking about the pixel resolution at all?

[Furiousflea]

nuthin...got confused :)

[Category 5]

You need to copy the m2ts files from the original BMDV\STREAM to the working directory and also the corresponding clpi from BMDV\CLIPINF, then increment the .inf file for each one you have replaced.

Tried that with failure as the result. Did I miss something else?

[jc243]

0.23 version problem

Why I select 25GB and final work only 7.4GB.

x264 mode. HQ Settings

Sorry my english

[Kakashi Sensei]

I've modified my muxing parameters for the next version to be more accurate. Dolby TrueHD is the cause of most oversizing. It isn't unusual to see 40% muxing overhead (in TSMUXER) on those streams.

Thanks JDobbs. I used the custom size setting and set it to 19000 and it came up just shy of the max required for a BD-R.

Keep up the good work :)
Sensei

Edit: I was using 0.23.02 when i changed the custom value to see how it would come up.

[jdobbs]

as i described in my post : the result is 4/3... not 16/9 as it should. Can you post the log from the encode? I would also like to see the CLPI file for the stream that was so odd.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a new release (v0.24.01) of BD Rebuilder. There have been significant changes in this version -- so treat it accordingly. The change are:
- Added code to increase output size prediction
accuracy. A WARNING to those using custom sizes
in order to make "adjusted" output, -- you will
likely oversize/undersize. The actual size of the
output should now be closer to that specified in
the selected target parameter. A special thanks to
lithiumus for his help in the sizing adjustments.
- Changed the default values for AC3. Reencoding will
now be done at 640Kbs for 5.1 (rather than 448Kbs)
and 224Kbs for 2.0 (rather than 192Kbs). Also the
setup dialog option has changed to enable 448Kbs as
a secondary option (previously 640Kbs).
- Fixed an inconsistency in the percentage reporting
to the status bar when in minimized mode.
- Added a LOG entry when BD-RB can't find the X264
window handle. This is just to clearly identify if
the 50% complete problem is a result of a failed
attempt to retrieve the handle.
- Corrected a bug that could under certain conditions
prevent playback of streams that had secondary video
on the original disc.
- Added code to prevent failed encode on very small
sources due to ridiculously low specified bitrate.
- Added an ETA field to the status display of the GUI
that shows an estimate the time needed to complete
the current encoding pass.
- Added a partial implementation of PiP rebuilds. The
video should now be included on full backups. Audio
support is still in development.
- Changed the name of the INF file. Previously the
job status information (INF) was saved to a file
called "BDREBUILDER.INF" in the destination folder.
Now, to keep the information for debugging, etc. I
have named it according to the source.
- Added an option to the SETUP dialog for automatic
removal of the WORKFILES directory after rebuild.
Warning: Selecting this option removes all files
required to perform another REBUILD in the event you
decided to "tweak" the source slightly. Use with
caution.
- Added a "Shutdown after REBUILD" option under the
FILE menu. This will shutdown your computer at job
completion (only if BD-RB has successfully completed
all its encode and rebuild steps). A warning/abort
dialog gives the opportunity to abort the shutdown.
- Updated X264.EXE to a newer release (r1173).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Capsbackup]

Wow!! many new changes and features. Where do you find the time? I thank you for it!!
I have been having all successful backups on the previous versions, both full movie and movie only. I will try to keep up with you on my testing of this new version. ;) :thanks:

EDIT:
The need for either tsMuxer to support DTS Express or jdobbs to create his own muxer for BD-RB, or a free alternative to reencode DTS Express to Dolby Digital for the PIP option to be complete. And not even 7 months since your first release. I am impressed!!

[tekmobile]

Great work with the latest version

I have been using this AVS script to blank unwanted extras on some discs and it would be great if it could be included somehow and since its a clean static image it compresses extremely well and only requires a very tiny bitrate

I change the length to match the original so as not to upset chapter points etc


video = BlankClip(length=164356, width=1920 , height=1080 , fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, color=$000000)
audio = BlankClip(video, audio_rate=48000, stereo=true)
AudioDub(video, audio)
Subtitle("Video Removed", size=120 , align=5)
ConvertToYV12()


I also include audio so it can be processed through wavi and aften to create a blank 128Kb 2.0 audio track if required

[AlbertX]

Hi I have one question, does this programs keeps the menus and everything?

[GaPony]

Hi I have one question, does this programs keeps the menus and everything?

Generally, it does when making a full backup. It only keeps the movie when doing Movie Only copies.

[jdobbs]

Hi I have one question, does this programs keeps the menus and everything? Yes. It can do a complete backup (including menus) to BD-5, BD-9, or BD-25. But it can also do "movie-only" backups.

[SurroundBoy]

All of my VC-1 sources seem to re-encode to 1920x1080 even though I always set the 720p resize. Any ideas?

[spida_singh]

Just received an error on Kung Fu Panda UK full backup.

- [12:32:08] CorrectEPData() 00006 2008
[12:54:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

?

regards

[Furiousflea]

Here's a list of the films I have that shouldn now work with PIP - Since they have PIP but no DTS Express\EAC3 track.

Day The Earth Stood Still (2008)
Wall-E
Resident Evil Degeneration
Pinnochio

Will report back if the backups play correctly on my Sony S550...

[jc243]

Hi,

Version 0.24.01 Error

-----------------------
[08:18:57] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: XXXXXXXMERS_D1
- Input BD size: 42,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:49.438]
- Target BD size: 22,75 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:19:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:25:45] CorrectEPData() 00055 2008
[08:28:46]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

[jdobbs]

Just received an error on Kung Fu Panda UK full backup.

- [12:32:08] CorrectEPData() 00006 2008
[12:54:16]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

?

regards Hmmm. I'd seen that during testing, but I thought I'd fixed it. I'll take a look at it.

[jdobbs]

All of my VC-1 sources seem to re-encode to 1920x1080 even though I always set the 720p resize. Any ideas? I'll look at it. Ony VC-1, eh?

[jdobbs]

Hi,

Version 0.24.01 Error

-----------------------
[08:18:57] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: XXXXXXXMERS_D1
- Input BD size: 42,61 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:29:49.438]
- Target BD size: 22,75 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:19:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:25:45] CorrectEPData() 00055 2008
[08:28:46]PHASE ONE aborted by user request It says it is resuming from a previous job. Did you get this error the first time it ran? The 00055 means an attempt was made to open a file that is already open...

[Furiousflea]

Hmmm. I'd seen that during testing, but I thought I'd fixed it. I'll take a look at it.

I get that error too on "Day The Earth Stood Still" 2008 version. during rebuilding...Only film I've tried so far with PIP.

[jdobbs]

I get that error too on "Day The Earth Stood Still" 2008 version. during rebuilding...Only film I've tried so far with PIP. Thanks. I was planning to pick up that disc anyhow -- I'll run up and get it. It should be easy to fix if I can repeat it.

I don't think its related to PiP, but you never know.

Any special settings? Full or movie-only backup? English audio/subs kept?

[Furiousflea]

Thanks. I was planning to pick up that disc anyhow -- I'll run up and get it. It should be easy to fix if I can repeat it.

I don't think its related to PiP, but you never know.

Any special settings? Full or movie-only backup? English audio/subs kept?

Full disc, keeping HD Audio, English audio\subs only. needed to set min m2ts to 150mb, since there is a file about 0.4mb that refuses to encode and is part of a larger mpls evidently.

[Capsbackup]

Just had my first problem backup in quite some time. First test with BD-RBV02401, Die Hard, Region A, full movie, keep HD audio. Backup completes successfully, computer shuts down after completion( NICE!! ). However:
Tried with PowerDVD 7.3, burned to Sony BD-RE also for playback on Sony BDP-BX1, with similar results. Insert disc in computer, intro warning starts and plays the still image and the timer keeps on counting, but it never leaves the intro warning. Unable to select top menu or pop up menu. Thats as far as it will go.
When I play the disc on the BX1, it plays the intro warning and does go to the menu, but when I select play, the movie wants to try to play but the intro warning never leaves the screen. The counter starts to count, the audio is heard for about 8-9 seconds and then no more audio, and only the intro warning was ever on the screen and no movie video, only just the warning. I am able to select top menu now.
Special features will not play either, except the trailers, which do play but only after what appears to be a quick blank screen rapid run thru of all the chapters, and then the trailers start and play.
I'm not sure what to make of this one. I am starting over and trying it again with BD-RBV02302, just to see what happens with this version. I had not experienced a single issue with 2302, so I might as well see what happens with Die Hard.

[jdobbs]

Full disc, keeping HD Audio, English audio\subs only. needed to set min m2ts to 150mb, since there is a file about 0.4mb that refuses to encode and is part of a larger mpls evidently. Ok. It's running now. I'll let you know what I find. How far into the disc does it fail?

[jdobbs]

Just had my first problem backup in quite some time. First test with BD-RBV02401, Die Hard, Region A, full movie, keep HD audio. Backup completes successfully, computer shuts down after completion( NICE!! ). However:
Tried with PowerDVD 7.3, burned to Sony BD-RE also for playback on Sony BDP-BX1, with similar results. Insert disc in computer, intro warning starts and plays the still image and the timer keeps on counting, but it never leaves the intro warning. Unable to select top menu or pop up menu. Thats as far as it will go.
When I play the disc on the BX1, it plays the intro warning and does go to the menu, but when I select play, the movie wants to try to play but the intro warning never leaves the screen. The counter starts to count, the audio is heard for about 8-9 seconds and then no more audio, and only the intro warning was ever on the screen and no movie video, only just the warning. I am able to select top menu now.
Special features will not play either, except the trailers, which do play but only after what appears to be a quick blank screen rapid run thru of all the chapters, and then the trailers start and play.
I'm not sure what to make of this one. I am starting over and trying it again with BD-RBV02302, just to see what happens with this version. I had not experienced a single issue with 2302, so I might as well see what happens with Die Hard.Let me know how it works with BD-RB v0.23.02 -- at least that way I'll know if it was something just introduced.

I've done quite a few encodes with this new version -- no issues yet. I have Die Hard, I'll try it later tonight.

[jdobbs]

Full disc, keeping HD Audio, English audio\subs only. needed to set min m2ts to 150mb, since there is a file about 0.4mb that refuses to encode and is part of a larger mpls evidently. Ok. I'm confused. It's encoding the last (largest) M2TS now. No error.

I see the M2TS (00254.m2ts) that won't encode. It has only one frame, and for some reason AVISYNTH/DirectshowSource() says it can't communicate with the filter. As you did, I set the minimum M2TS size to 150MB and it skipped that one. I'll see if there is anything I can do about that issue.

[Capsbackup]

Let me know how it works with BD-RB v0.23.02 -- at least that way I'll know if it was something just introduced.

I've done quite a few encodes with this new version -- no issues yet. I have Die Hard, I'll try it later tonight.

Just completed Die Hard with BD-RBV02302, and tested the image with PowerDVD and it works perfectly. I am burning to BD-RE now, and will test it on my BDP-BX1 and report the findings. It does appear something has changed in BD-RBV02401 that has caused this problem for me. If you would like, I can post the logs for both backups or provide what ever you may need.

EDIT:
I have tested the BD-RE and all menus and extras play back perfectly, on the computer with PowerDVD 7.3 and on the Sony BDP-BX1.

[jlriv]

Can you post the log from the encode? I would also like to see the CLPI file for the stream that was so odd.

Here's the log :

[06:29:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:29:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [08:17:49] Collecting video information [00011]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 14*538 Kbs
- [08:17:49] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:22:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:22:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:22:33] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:24:35]PHASE ONE complete
[00:24:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:24:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:26:30] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:26:30]JOB: GANDHI completed.

I tried reencoding a third film and I had the same problem.

clpi file is joined

[Kurtnoise]

- Added an option to the SETUP dialog for automatic removal of the WORKFILES directory after rebuild.

cosmetic: the checkbox is not checked after you close/reopen the setup dialog if this option has been selected previously.



More tests with this beta later...:)

[Furiousflea]

Ok. I'm confused. It's encoding the last (largest) M2TS now. No error.

I see the M2TS (00254.m2ts) that won't encode. It has only one frame, and for some reason AVISYNTH/DirectshowSource() says it can't communicate with the filter. As you did, I set the minimum M2TS size to 150MB and it skipped that one. I'll see if there is anything I can do about that issue.

It happense at the REBUILD stage after the last m2ts has been encoded ;) my apologies for not being clear on that. :)

[isoss]

It happense at the REBUILD stage after the last m2ts has been encoded ;) my apologies for not being clear on that. :)

I have the same problem with the movie "The Day the earth stood still" bud i can not encode the smal file even if i put it first with the option "encode bonus(extra) faster"

[saphire199]

Just ran into a problem with Death Race. Everything was going fine then hit error which kept going until I had to abort.
Log:
-----------------------
[22:20:26] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: DEATH_RACE
- Input BD size: 42.32 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:51:18.447]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[22:20:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:20:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00222]
- [22:21:43] Reencoding: VID_00222 (1 of 72)
- [23:36:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00269]
- [23:36:38] Reencoding: VID_00269 (2 of 72)
- [23:45:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00278]
- [23:45:53] Reencoding: VID_00278 (3 of 72)
- [23:48:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- [23:48:50] Reencoding: VID_00279 (4 of 72)
- [23:52:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00280]
- [23:52:42] Reencoding: VID_00280 (5 of 72)
- [23:55:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00281]
- [23:55:15] Reencoding: VID_00281 (6 of 72)
- [23:58:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00285]
- [23:58:40] Reencoding: VID_00285 (7 of 72)
- [00:03:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00286]
- [00:04:03] Reencoding: VID_00286 (8 of 72)
- [00:36:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00287]
- [00:36:50] Reencoding: VID_00287 (9 of 72)
- [00:57:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00288]
- [00:57:41] Reencoding: VID_00288 (10 of 72)
- [01:11:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00289]
- [01:12:12] Reencoding: VID_00289 (11 of 72)
- [01:25:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00290]
- [01:25:47] Reencoding: VID_00290 (12 of 72)
- [01:43:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00291]
- [01:43:38] Reencoding: VID_00291 (13 of 72)
- [01:48:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00292]
- [01:50:19] Reencoding: VID_00292 (14 of 72)
- [02:42:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00293]
- [02:42:43] Reencoding: VID_00293 (15 of 72)
- [02:54:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00294]
- [02:55:19] Reencoding: VID_00294 (16 of 72)
- [03:14:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00295]
- [03:15:14] Reencoding: VID_00295 (17 of 72)
- [03:53:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00296]
- [03:57:12] Reencoding: VID_00296 (18 of 72)
- [06:07:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00297]
- [06:08:18] Reencoding: VID_00297 (19 of 72)
- [06:08:24] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.

I searched thread, couldn't find this error. I have only default settings in use and was going for full backup to BD25.

Saphire199

[Furiousflea]

I have the same problem with the movie "The Day the earth stood still" bud i can not encode the smal file even if i put it first with the option "encode bonus(extra) faster"

That's not the problem I'm talking about. jdobbs is aware of the problem with the small m2ts it's because it's only 1 frame long and avisynth won't accept it. You can get around that error by setting the minimum m2ts size to encode at 150mb, think he's looking into it. My post is referring to the problem when the last main movie m2ts is being muxed to an m2ts...

Comes out with this error.

CorrectEPData() 00006 2008

:)

[MILLZY]

Just recieved a error with casion royale. Stuck at 40% at the rebuild process since this morning:


[18:10:16] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: CASINO_ROYALE
- Input BD size: 42.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:16:57.727]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[18:10:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:10:18] Reencoding: VID_00006 (2 of 11)
- [18:11:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:12:01] Reencoding: VID_00009 (3 of 11)
- [18:14:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [18:14:49] Reencoding: VID_00008 (4 of 11)
- [18:19:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [18:19:52] Reencoding: VID_00007 (5 of 11)
- [18:24:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [18:25:35] Reencoding: VID_00003 (6 of 11)
- [18:31:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [18:32:14] Reencoding: VID_00005 (7 of 11)
- [18:39:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [18:40:48] Reencoding: VID_00004 (8 of 11)
- [18:48:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [18:53:32] Reencoding: VID_00002 (9 of 11)
- [19:41:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [19:46:43] Reencoding: VID_00001 (10 of 11)
- [20:37:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:23:40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (11 of 11)
-----------------------
[11:57:28] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: CASINO_ROYALE
- Input BD size: 42.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:16:57.727]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[11:57:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
[11:57:30] - Failed to build structure, aborted
-----------------------
[11:57:34] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: CASINO_ROYALE
- Input BD size: 42.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:16:57.727]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[11:57:36] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta
[11:57:37] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[jdobbs]

Just completed Die Hard with BD-RBV02302, and tested the image with PowerDVD and it works perfectly. I am burning to BD-RE now, and will test it on my BDP-BX1 and report the findings. It does appear something has changed in BD-RBV02401 that has caused this problem for me. If you would like, I can post the logs for both backups or provide what ever you may need.

EDIT:
I have tested the BD-RE and all menus and extras play back perfectly, on the computer with PowerDVD 7.3 and on the Sony BDP-BX1. Any chance it could have been a bad disc? I can't think of anything that changed that could have cause that...

Yes. Please post the two logs.

[jdobbs]

Ok. I'm confused. It's encoding the last (largest) M2TS now. No error.

I see the M2TS (00254.m2ts) that won't encode. It has only one frame, and for some reason AVISYNTH/DirectshowSource() says it can't communicate with the filter. As you did, I set the minimum M2TS size to 150MB and it skipped that one. I'll see if there is anything I can do about that issue.
@Furiousflea

Ok. I got up this morning and the error was on the screen. I'll check it out.

[jdobbs]

cosmetic: the checkbox is not checked after you close/reopen the setup dialog if this option has been selected previously.



More tests with this beta later...:) Whoops... ok I'll fix it.

[tekmobile]

Just completed the rock and when I load the output in TMT2 it loads ok and gets to the menu but on selecting play it goes to a black screen as if its going to play but then throws back to the menu.

I will burn to a BD-RE later to test in the standalone

[Rail-Runner]

Useing BD-RB 2401, movie Australia,Full movie backup,US eng only,BD-RE 25,nothing checked except shutdown after complete,high quality setting.Sound plays for trailers and movie but video works for menu only nowhere else.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Any able to successfully backup Batman Begins? or is there a problem with the secondary video stream?

Here is the log file code:
[20:50:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:50:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:07:29] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 13)
- [09:43:35] CorrectEPData() 00006 2008

Any ideas?
Thanks,
KS

[Capsbackup]

Any chance it could have been a bad disc? I can't think of anything that changed that could have cause that...

Yes. Please post the two logs.

Definately not a bad burn or disc, since the image played back with PowerDVD does not work either. I tried it overnight again with BD-RBV02401, with the exact same settings and got the same results as the first run. With PowerDVD playing the image, it starts with the intro warning and will never advance to the main menu, and the time counter continues running.
The logs:
-----------------------
[20:57:18] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: DIE_HARD
- Input BD size: 34.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:52:46.456]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[20:57:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:57:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [21:09:11] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 15,207 Kbs
- [21:09:11] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:36:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:30:02] Video Encode complete
- [02:30:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:30:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:46:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [02:46:28] Collecting video information [00003]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [02:46:29] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:46:32] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:46:33] Video Encode complete
- [02:46:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:46:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:46:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [02:46:41] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,253 Kbs
- [02:46:41] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:47:52] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:49:37] Video Encode complete
- [02:49:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:49:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [02:49:40] Collecting video information [00005]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [02:49:40] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:49:40] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:49:41] Video Encode complete
- [02:49:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:49:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:49:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [02:50:03] Collecting video information [00006]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,868 Kbs
- [02:50:03] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:51:34] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:57:23] Video Encode complete
- [02:57:23] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:57:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:57:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [02:57:35] Collecting video information [00007]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,774 Kbs
- [02:57:35] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:57:51] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:58:42] Video Encode complete
- [02:58:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [02:58:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:58:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [02:58:51] Collecting video information [00008]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,849 Kbs
- [02:58:51] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:59:19] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:00:52] Video Encode complete
- [03:00:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:00:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:00:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [03:00:57] Collecting video information [00009]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 10,189 Kbs
- [03:00:57] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:01:03] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:01:25] Video Encode complete
- [03:01:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:01:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:01:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [03:01:27] Collecting video information [00011]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 500 Kbs
- [03:01:27] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:01:27] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:01:28] Video Encode complete
- [03:01:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:01:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:01:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [03:01:33] Collecting video information [00018]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 12,472 Kbs
- [03:01:33] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:01:44] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:02:20] Video Encode complete
- [03:02:20] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:02:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:02:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [03:02:29] Collecting video information [00019]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 7,955 Kbs
- [03:02:29] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:02:51] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:03:58] Video Encode complete
- [03:03:58] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:03:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:04:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [03:04:04] Collecting video information [00020]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,392 Kbs
- [03:04:04] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:04:16] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:04:49] Video Encode complete
- [03:04:49] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:04:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:04:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [03:05:04] Collecting video information [00023]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 9,141 Kbs
- [03:05:04] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:05:57] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:09:05] Video Encode complete
- [03:09:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:09:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:09:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [03:09:13] Collecting video information [00025]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 11,680 Kbs
- [03:09:13] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:09:22] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:09:50] Video Encode complete
- [03:09:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:09:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:09:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [03:09:59] Collecting video information [00027]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 14,148 Kbs
- [03:10:00] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:10:50] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:12:41] Video Encode complete
- [03:12:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:12:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:12:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [03:13:01] Collecting video information [00028]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 21,524 Kbs
- [03:13:01] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:14:54] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:20:34] Video Encode complete
- [03:20:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:20:34] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:20:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [03:20:51] Collecting video information [00029]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 18,233 Kbs
- [03:20:51] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:22:21] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:26:28] Video Encode complete
- [03:26:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:26:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:26:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [03:26:43] Collecting video information [00030]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 16,604 Kbs
- [03:26:43] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:28:10] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:31:51] Video Encode complete
- [03:31:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:31:51] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:31:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [03:32:01] Collecting video information [00031]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 21,687 Kbs
- [03:32:01] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:32:28] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:33:48] Video Encode complete
- [03:33:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:33:48] Multiplexing M2TS
[03:33:51]PHASE ONE complete
[03:33:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [03:33:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[03:34:30] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.
-----------------------
[14:38:08] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: DIE_HARD
- Input BD size: 34.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:52:46.456]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[14:38:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:38:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [14:49:52] Collecting video information [00001]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 15,429 Kbs
- [14:49:52] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:17:25] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:12:57] Video Encode complete
- [20:12:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:12:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:31:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [20:31:56] Collecting video information [00003]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 144 Kbs
- [20:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:32:00] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:32:00] Video Encode complete
- [20:32:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:32:00] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:32:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [20:32:09] Collecting video information [00004]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 2,260 Kbs
- [20:32:09] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:33:20] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:35:05] Video Encode complete
- [20:35:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:35:05] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:35:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
- [20:35:08] Collecting video information [00005]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 115 Kbs
- [20:35:08] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:35:09] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:35:09] Video Encode complete
- [20:35:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:35:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:35:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [20:35:33] Collecting video information [00006]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,826 Kbs
- [20:35:33] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:37:04] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:42:54] Video Encode complete
- [20:42:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:42:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:43:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [20:43:08] Collecting video information [00007]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,732 Kbs
- [20:43:08] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:43:24] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:44:15] Video Encode complete
- [20:44:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:44:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:44:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [20:44:26] Collecting video information [00008]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,808 Kbs
- [20:44:26] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:44:54] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:46:29] Video Encode complete
- [20:46:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:46:29] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:46:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [20:46:35] Collecting video information [00009]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 10,137 Kbs
- [20:46:36] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:46:42] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:47:03] Video Encode complete
- [20:47:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:47:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:47:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [20:47:05] Collecting video information [00011]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 115 Kbs
- [20:47:05] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:47:06] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:47:06] Video Encode complete
- [20:47:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:47:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:47:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [20:47:12] Collecting video information [00018]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 12,404 Kbs
- [20:47:12] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:47:23] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:47:59] Video Encode complete
- [20:47:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:47:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:48:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [20:48:08] Collecting video information [00019]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 7,919 Kbs
- [20:48:09] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:48:30] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:49:37] Video Encode complete
- [20:49:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:49:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:49:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [20:49:44] Collecting video information [00020]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 8,353 Kbs
- [20:49:44] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:49:56] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:50:30] Video Encode complete
- [20:50:30] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:50:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:50:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [20:50:44] Collecting video information [00023]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 9,097 Kbs
- [20:50:44] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:51:37] Reencoding: VID_00023, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:54:44] Video Encode complete
- [20:54:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:54:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:54:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [20:54:51] Collecting video information [00025]
- Video: 720x480, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 11,617 Kbs
- [20:54:51] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:54:59] Reencoding: VID_00025, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:55:27] Video Encode complete
- [20:55:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:55:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:55:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00027]
- [20:55:35] Collecting video information [00027]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 14,067 Kbs
- [20:55:35] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:56:25] Reencoding: VID_00027, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:58:17] Video Encode complete
- [20:58:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:58:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:58:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [20:58:36] Collecting video information [00028]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 21,389 Kbs
- [20:58:36] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:00:28] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:06:08] Video Encode complete
- [21:06:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:06:08] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:06:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [21:06:26] Collecting video information [00029]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 18,146 Kbs
- [21:06:26] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:07:55] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:12:03] Video Encode complete
- [21:12:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:12:03] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:12:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [21:12:18] Collecting video information [00030]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 16,529 Kbs
- [21:12:18] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:13:45] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:17:28] Video Encode complete
- [21:17:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:17:28] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:17:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [21:17:37] Collecting video information [00031]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 21,574 Kbs
- [21:17:37] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:18:03] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:19:22] Video Encode complete
- [21:19:22] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:19:22] Multiplexing M2TS
[21:19:24]PHASE ONE complete
[21:19:24]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [21:19:24] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[21:19:55] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[21:19:55]JOB: DIE_HARD completed.

[Kurtnoise]

More tests with this beta later...:)
I ran an issue with The Night at the Museum - Region B :

-----------------------
[15:50:06] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 20,17 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:38.511]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[15:50:06] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:50:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[15:53:50] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
-----------------------
[15:54:18] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 20,17 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:38.511]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[15:54:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:54:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
[16:13:52]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[16:14:02] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 20,17 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:38.511]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
[16:14:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:14:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[16:17:46] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
Actually, BDR is not able to extract my subtitle track, not the audio one. it stucks at ~10%. However, using tsmuxerGUI, all it's ok...what's wrong ?

[jdobbs]

Any able to successfully backup Batman Begins? or is there a problem with the secondary video stream?

Here is the log file code:
[20:50:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:50:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:07:29] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 13)
- [09:43:35] CorrectEPData() 00006 2008

Any ideas?
Thanks,
KS I'm looking at this now. Does "Batman Begins" have PiP (I'm guess it does).

[jdobbs]

Definately not a bad burn or disc, since the image played back with PowerDVD does not work either. I tried it overnight again with BD-RBV02401, with the exact same settings and got the same results as the first run. With PowerDVD playing the image, it starts with the intro warning and will never advance to the main menu, and the time counter continues running.
The logs:
Does "Die Hard" have PiP? Something seems to have gone wrong in this build, and I'm trying to figure out what caused it. If it is PiP -- then it is possible it may have something to do with the way TSMUXER handles secondary video.

[Capsbackup]

Does "Die Hard" have PiP? Something seems to have gone wrong in this build, and I'm trying to figure out what caused it. If it is PiP -- then it is possible it may have something to do with the way TSMUXER handles secondary video.

No PIP. I am testing Die Hard 2 now, and it does not have PIP either.

[MILLZY]

Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00000.meta

Recieved this error on casino royale,Seems other people are recieving similar errors too.

[deank]

Any chance it could have been a bad disc? I can't think of anything that changed that could have cause that...

Yes. Please post the two logs.

Ok. I'm confused. It's encoding the last (largest) M2TS now. No error.

I see the M2TS (00254.m2ts) that won't encode. It has only one frame, and for some reason AVISYNTH/DirectshowSource() says it can't communicate with the filter. As you did, I set the minimum M2TS size to 150MB and it skipped that one. I'll see if there is anything I can do about that issue.

I don't know if it is related, but for example multiAVCHD uses 1 frame for menu files, usually <600kb.

Just a thought.

Dean

[Furiousflea]

I'm looking at this now. Does "Batman Begins" have PiP (I'm guess it does).

Yes it does.

[chudm]

hello from venezuela guys :D great thread! im new at ripping blurays, but i ripped yesterday my foo fighters bluray, and when i burn it today and put it on my ps3 it read it as bd-r bdmv so as data disc right? can you explain me what to do? or how to fix this? thx a lot!

btw i did a full backup to bd-25! thx in advance!

[drmih]

I have had 2 none working so far with the new version - as others have said it plays with a black screen or sticks on the menu. The m2ts streams are fine so probably something in the rebuild.

[Kakashi Sensei]

@JDobbs - as said by furious it does but I accidently removed the ac3 audio track that should be for the PiP. I'm thinking that might have caused it but I could be wrong. I'm gonna have another go at this tonight and report back tomorrow. If that fails I'll try the previous build and see. Thanks :)

[chudm]

can anybody help me guys :(?

im new at ripping blurays, but i ripped yesterday my foo fighters bluray, and when i burn it today and put it on my ps3 it read it as bd-r bdmv so as data disc right? can you explain me what to do? or how to fix this? thx a lot!

btw i did a full backup to bd-25! thx in advance!

[jdobbs]

@JDobbs - as said by furious it does but I accidently removed the ac3 audio track that should be for the PiP. I'm thinking that might have caused it but I could be wrong. I'm gonna have another go at this tonight and report back tomorrow. If that fails I'll try the previous build and see. Thanks :) I found this one. It was a stupid error on my part. It has been there for a long time, but only showed itself when I started creating TSMUXER output with secondary video streams in this release. I was using a fixed offset in one of the tables during CLPI processing for TSMUXER output -- that offset changes when you have multiple video streams.

I want to look at the "blank video" issue reported here before I post an updated version, though.

[jdobbs]

I have had 2 none working so far with the new version - as others have said it plays with a black screen or sticks on the menu. The m2ts streams are fine so probably something in the rebuild. I can't imagine what could be causing this -- but it is obviously a problem. I've done several discs and they are all playing correctly. I just finished "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

Can you give me a specific disc, settings, etc. that will cause this? Usually something like this would lead you to believe that the CLPI or MPLS isn't matching the M2TS. Can you open up the output with BDEdit and see if anything looks odd?

I'll run my copy of Die Hard through, but I suspect it isn't going to fail for me...

[jdobbs]

Just ran into a problem with Death Race. Everything was going fine then hit error which kept going until I had to abort.
Log:
-----------------------
[22:20:26] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: DEATH_RACE
- Input BD size: 42.32 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:51:18.447]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[22:20:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:20:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00222]
- [22:21:43] Reencoding: VID_00222 (1 of 72)
- [23:36:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00269]
- [23:36:38] Reencoding: VID_00269 (2 of 72)
- [23:45:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00278]
- [23:45:53] Reencoding: VID_00278 (3 of 72)
- [23:48:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- [23:48:50] Reencoding: VID_00279 (4 of 72)
- [23:52:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00280]
- [23:52:42] Reencoding: VID_00280 (5 of 72)
- [23:55:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00281]
- [23:55:15] Reencoding: VID_00281 (6 of 72)
- [23:58:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00285]
- [23:58:40] Reencoding: VID_00285 (7 of 72)
- [00:03:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00286]
- [00:04:03] Reencoding: VID_00286 (8 of 72)
- [00:36:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00287]
- [00:36:50] Reencoding: VID_00287 (9 of 72)
- [00:57:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00288]
- [00:57:41] Reencoding: VID_00288 (10 of 72)
- [01:11:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00289]
- [01:12:12] Reencoding: VID_00289 (11 of 72)
- [01:25:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00290]
- [01:25:47] Reencoding: VID_00290 (12 of 72)
- [01:43:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00291]
- [01:43:38] Reencoding: VID_00291 (13 of 72)
- [01:48:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00292]
- [01:50:19] Reencoding: VID_00292 (14 of 72)
- [02:42:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00293]
- [02:42:43] Reencoding: VID_00293 (15 of 72)
- [02:54:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00294]
- [02:55:19] Reencoding: VID_00294 (16 of 72)
- [03:14:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00295]
- [03:15:14] Reencoding: VID_00295 (17 of 72)
- [03:53:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00296]
- [03:57:12] Reencoding: VID_00296 (18 of 72)
- [06:07:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00297]
- [06:08:18] Reencoding: VID_00297 (19 of 72)
- [06:08:24] GUI issue, no hWnd returned.

I searched thread, couldn't find this error. I have only default settings in use and was going for full backup to BD25.

Saphire199 That means I am trying to find the window for X264 -- and couldn't. I put that message there to help identify the cause of the '50% GUI' problem.

What version of windows and X264 are you using?

[beto21]

Hello, I made a Full Disc backup of the Harry Potter: sorcerers stone US version blu-ray, the video stutters like every 5 or 10 seconds, I made a video of it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5uCgILhzcA
the movie stutters when played on pc with ArcSoft player, on PowerDvd, played through the files on the computer, and on the ps3 burned to a BD-RE
Any ideas?
thanx!

I used v0.22.02

[Capsbackup]

I can't imagine what could be causing this -- but it is obviously a problem. I've done several discs and they are all playing correctly. I just finished "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

Can you give me a specific disc, settings, etc. that will cause this? Usually something like this would lead you to believe that the CLPI or MPLS isn't matching the M2TS. Can you open up the output with BDEdit and see if anything looks odd?

I'll run my copy of Die Hard through, but I suspect it isn't going to fail for me...

My backup of Die Hard did not fail, but completed successfully. It just would not play past the intro warnings.
I am running Die Hard 2 now, and its structure seems very similar to Die Hard. I'll report the results of this one when it finishes.

[jdobbs]

My backup of Die Hard did not fail, but completed successfully. It just would not play past the intro warnings.
I am running Die Hard 2 now, and its structure seems very similar to Die Hard. I'll report the results of this one when it finishes. I meant "fail on playback". I've done quite a few discs in testing 0.24.1.

Unfortunately it appears someone has "borrowed" my Die Hard disc, and I don't know who. Is there another disc someone can suggest that exhibits this playback anomaly?

[setarip_old]

@beto21

Hi!

Do your original Blu Ray discs exhibit the same behavior when you play them on your computer, with the same software?

[Kakashi Sensei]

I found this one. It was a stupid error on my part. It has been there for a long time, but only showed itself when I started creating TSMUXER output with secondary video streams in this release. I was using a fixed offset in one of the tables during CLPI processing for TSMUXER output -- that offset changes when you have multiple video streams.

I want to look at the "blank video" issue reported here before I post an updated version, though.

Thanks for the update. I'll put this one on hold until you release a new ver. I don't know were you find the time. The programmers I work with take forever with any bug fixes. At least you can iscolate them pretty quick ;)

[jdobbs]

I think I found it. It looks like I mistyped a value where the PID is being updated in the MPLS. The compiler accepted it as octal when it was meant to be hexadecimal.

Actually I'm amazed that it is working on my player... I would have expected something like that to jump out at me in testing with a big failure. It's pretty extreme. :o

I'll post a fix in an hour or two. I have one more bug to fix first. In the meantime, I'd suggest anyone using version 0.24.1 either hold off doing any more encodes until I post the fix or step back to v0.23.2.


Note: This issue only occurs on full backups. Movie-only should be fine.

[drmih]

I can't imagine what could be causing this -- but it is obviously a problem. I've done several discs and they are all playing correctly. I just finished "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

Can you give me a specific disc, settings, etc. that will cause this? Usually something like this would lead you to believe that the CLPI or MPLS isn't matching the M2TS. Can you open up the output with BDEdit and see if anything looks odd?

I'll run my copy of Die Hard through, but I suspect it isn't going to fail for me...

Both discs I've tried are done to bd-9 full backup.
I have done Tears of the Sun. I'm just trying it at the moment on a Sony 550 - the disc loads fine but everything is 'black'. The studio logo, menu, film etc. The audio is there and you can move through the chapters. Using display information for the movie it's reporting the video as 1080/24p and audio as ac3 3/2.1
Exactly the same on the next disc I tried - Predator.

Neither Powerdvd or TMT3 will play them but you can play any of the streams fine, and they are reported as the correct size.

May be useful - I'm just checking the Predator original and the movie is MPEG-2. In bdedit for the 'new' version it's reporting the movie as AVC 1080p, whereas the original is MPEG-2.

[GaPony]

hello from venezuela guys :D great thread! im new at ripping blurays, but i ripped yesterday my foo fighters bluray, and when i burn it today and put it on my ps3 it read it as bd-r bdmv so as data disc right? can you explain me what to do? or how to fix this? thx a lot!

btw i did a full backup to bd-25! thx in advance!

For the PS3 (US version).... You should either copy the full movie to a BD-25 disc only.. or copy it as Movie Only and be sure to check the block for "Strict compliance for AVCHD" and you can use BD9 or BD5 or BD25 discs.

[jdobbs]

Both discs I've tried are done to bd-9 full backup.
I have done Tears of the Sun. I'm just trying it at the moment on a Sony 550 - the disc loads fine but everything is 'black'. The studio logo, menu, film etc. The audio is there and you can move through the chapters. Using display information for the movie it's reporting the video as 1080/24p and audio as ac3 3/2.1
Exactly the same on the next disc I tried - Predator.

Neither Powerdvd or TMT3 will play them but you can play any of the streams fine, and they are reported as the correct size.

May be useful - I'm just checking the Predator original and the movie is MPEG-2. In bdedit for the 'new' version it's reporting the movie as AVC 1080p, whereas the original is MPEG-2. Read post 3587...

BTW. It will only happen on Full Backups.

[drmih]

I should have refreshed the messages between starting to type and checking the discs out and hitting 'submit'!!

[saphire199]

That means I am trying to find the window for X264 -- and couldn't. I put that message there to help identify the cause of the '50% GUI' problem.

What version of windows and X264 are you using?

XP Pro with SP3 - the version of x264 is the one in the tool folder of the new beta of BDRB? I am assuming that BDRB automatically uses the one it comes with. Would that be right?

Saphire199

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a new version of BD-RB (v0.24.02). Changes for this version are:
- Corrected an error related to PiP processing in
which an error "CorrectEPData() 00006 2008" could
occur due to incorrect indexing into the EPDATA
table.
- Fixed a bug introduced in v0.24.01 in which full
backups would have an illegal PID inserted into the
MPLS file. This could cause failed playback (blank
screen with only sound or hang).
- Corrected an issue in which on some BDs that are
multipart movie-only BD-RB would incorrectly extract
a single component and cause a muxing error.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[chudm]

For the PS3 (US version).... You should either copy the full movie to a BD-25 disc only.. or copy it as Movie Only and be sure to check the block for "Strict compliance for AVCHD" and you can use BD9 or BD5 or BD25 discs.

yeah man i did that (for a bd25) i tried another bluray and everything was ok, but with the foo fighters wembley bluray the menu on the ps3 doesnt work at all! i can see the background and all but not the words to select any part of the bluray :scared: ill try to rip it again and try it!, thx

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs:
Full backup of Die Hard 2 to BD-25 displays the same problem as I had with Die Hard. I see you may have found the issue and made the correction for this new release, BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta). :)
I will retry again tonight and report back the results.
Thanks for your time and efforts to track this down.

[beto21]

@beto21

Hi!

Do your original Blu Ray discs exhibit the same behavior when you play them on your computer, with the same software?

No, the original disc doesn't stutter, plays fine :scared:

[aquanash]

@jdobbs:

I can confirm with the latest version (v0.24.02) the chapters are still missing when doing a movie-only backup of Frost/Nixon (US). Any idea what is causing this yet? Here is the contents of MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS.MKV"+"D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\VID_00083.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4352.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=eng

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs:

I can confirm with the latest version (v0.24.02) the chapters are still missing when doing a movie-only backup of Frost/Nixon (US). Any idea what is causing this yet? Here is the contents of MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\VID_00010.AVS.MKV"+"D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\VID_00083.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4352.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BR\DONE\FROSTNIXON\WORKFILES\00010.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=eng Here's what I get with Frost/Nixon (US):MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:05:40.048;00:11:54.714;00:17:00.644;00:23:06.343;00:29:11.082;00:34:37.241;00:38:24.760;00:47:44.152;00:54:31.559;00:59:07.460;01:05:06.152;01:12:19.543;01:19:46.573;01:26:21.843;01:31:49.670;01:38:40.331;01:42:19.591;01:51:03.406;01:56:35.655;02:01:57.393 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "d:\temp\VID_00010.AVS.MKV"+"d:\temp\VID_00083.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_DTS, "d:\temp\00010.track_4352.DTS", lang=eng
A_AC3, "d:\temp\00010.track_4355.AC3", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "d:\temp\00010.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=eng

[pandemonium91]

Can you give me all the settings all the programs need to be one time? I have hit a road block. Everything I have tried to compress to 23450gb has failed except the initial 6 movies (all three pirates and all three x-men). I have tries the newest version and am still having failures. The latest is Taken with v0.24.01. I was doing a movie only backup (I have tried full backup as well) as this is what I got:

[20:21:29] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: TAKEN
- Input BD size: 26.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:25.266]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:21:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:21:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00074]
- [20:29:45] Collecting video information [00074]
- [20:29:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [20:29:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [20:33:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:35:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00184]
- [20:35:07] Collecting video information [00184]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 18,122 Kbs
- [20:35:07] Reencoding: VID_00184, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:36:03] Reencoding: VID_00184, Pass 2 of 2
- [20:39:24] Video Encode complete
- [20:39:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [20:39:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00185]
- [20:40:38] Collecting video information [00185]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [20:40:38] Reencoding: VID_00185, Pass 1 of 2
- [20:52:57] Reencoding: VID_00185, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:40:20] Video Encode complete
- [21:40:20] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:41:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00187]
- [21:41:12] Collecting video information [00187]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 19,465 Kbs
- [21:41:12] Reencoding: VID_00187, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:43:50] Reencoding: VID_00187, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:53:38] Video Encode complete
- [21:53:38] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:53:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00188]
- [21:57:20] Collecting video information [00188]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [21:57:20] Reencoding: VID_00188, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:29:12] Reencoding: VID_00188, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:29:10] Video Encode complete
- [00:29:10] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:31:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00190]
- [00:31:37] Collecting video information [00190]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [00:31:37] Reencoding: VID_00190, Pass 1 of 2
- [00:34:32] Reencoding: VID_00190, Pass 2 of 2
- [00:45:09] Video Encode complete
- [00:45:09] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:45:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00191]
- [00:47:31] Collecting video information [00191]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [00:47:31] Reencoding: VID_00191, Pass 1 of 2
- [01:07:13] Reencoding: VID_00191, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:20:30] Video Encode complete
- [02:20:30] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:21:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00193]
- [02:22:29] Collecting video information [00193]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [02:22:30] Reencoding: VID_00193, Pass 1 of 2
- [02:29:55] Reencoding: VID_00193, Pass 2 of 2
- [02:57:53] Video Encode complete
- [02:57:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:58:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00194]
- [02:59:13] Collecting video information [00194]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [02:59:13] Reencoding: VID_00194, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:07:29] Reencoding: VID_00194, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:38:55] Video Encode complete
- [03:38:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:39:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00196]
- [03:41:07] Collecting video information [00196]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [03:41:07] Reencoding: VID_00196, Pass 1 of 2
- [04:04:16] Reencoding: VID_00196, Pass 2 of 2
- [05:34:11] Video Encode complete
- [05:34:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [05:35:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00197]
- [05:36:53] Collecting video information [00197]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 25,000 Kbs
- [05:36:53] Reencoding: VID_00197, Pass 1 of 2
- [05:46:48] Reencoding: VID_00197, Pass 2 of 2
- [06:16:24] Video Encode complete
- [06:16:24] Multiplexing M2TS
[06:16:55]PHASE ONE complete
[06:16:55]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:16:55] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
[06:18:40] - Failed to REBUILD
-----------------------

I want to make sure I have all the programs and everything set up correctly. Thanks for your help.

[pandemonium91]

Im sorry, and all the versions. Maybe spmoething is outdated!

[jdobbs]

Im sorry, and all the versions. Maybe spmoething is outdated! I'd suggest you do the MUX from the command line to see what error was returned.

c:\path\to\bd_rebuilder\tools\tsmuxer c:\path\to\working\mux_movie_only.meta c:\temp

Of course all paths would have to be legitimate.

[pandemonium91]

I am trying movie only of Taken with 24.02. I will send the error msg if and when it occurs this time. Big M.A.S.H. fan huh? I knew I liked you! Is there a list of what versions and settings every support software piece needs to be?

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
The bug introduced in BD-RBV02401 is gone!!
BD-RBV02402 worked perfectly again for Die Hard 2, and I will burn to BD-RE and test on my standalone also shortly. Cograts on finding that one so quickly.
The shutdown on completion is a great add. I really appreciate that one too. Thanks. :D

[jdobbs]

I am trying movie only of Taken with 24.02. I will send the error msg if and when it occurs this time. Big M.A.S.H. fan huh? I knew I liked you! Is there a list of what versions and settings every support software piece needs to be? The first post of this thread gives you that information. You can also download using the links there.

Some of my best lines come from M.A.S.H. -- great writers, classic.

[Kakashi Sensei]

@JDobbs

Great job the bug i encounted yesterday is gone with the new build. I was actually able to start were 0.24.01 left and remuxed the main movie fine. Finished the encode and burned to BD-RE to test out. I'll let you know how it plays when i get home from work.

Thanks :cool:

[pandemonium91]

"After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled."


Is "libavcodec" mean enabled? I am just trying to cover all possibilities!

"A mental pigmie!"-Col. Potter

[chudm]

hey guys, i ripped some blurays (concerts, like rush snakes and arrows live, within temptation black symphony, vicente fernandez primera fila) with bd rebuilder and worked fine on bd-25 but when i try to rip foo fighters wembley, it gets ripped fine, but when i burn it to a bd-r the ps3 doesnt highlight any option at the menu! what do you suggest me? thx!:scared:

[kooibosmania]

@Jdobbs

great work thusfar few to no errors
i did daredevil full disk to BD25, tested it in sony 550.
i noticed there are many subs and audio to choose from, thing is i take only english and dutch so i checked the settings and these were good then i examined the mpls file and surething they are still there but not in the clpi.

i think somewhere down the developement the mpls file is left untouched ???;)

greatzz Kooibosmania

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
The bug introduced in BD-RBV02401 is gone!!
BD-RBV02402 worked perfectly again for Die Hard 2, and I will burn to BD-RE and test on my standalone also shortly. Cograts on finding that one so quickly.
The shutdown on completion is a great add. I really appreciate that one too. Thanks. :D

I may have spoke to soon. The test on PowerDVD does seem to work properly, but the burned BD-RE does not have the HD audio working.
BDInfo shows HD DTS Master audio is present, as does tsMuxeR, but it is not heard on playback on my Sony BDP-BX1.
I notice when selecting the audio button on the remote to change audio tracks, there is no audio heard, only silence on the removed French and Spanish DTS-HD tracks as well as the English DTS-HD track. I believe in BD-RB versions of past, the English audio track was heard even when scrolling thru the removed other audio tracks. Now there is only silence. Is that normal? For this disc, DTS HD English is the default audio track, and when the movie starts, video is playing normally, but just silence for audio. I did keep the DD AC3 track also, as well as the directors comments tracks, and those do work properly. So when I change audio tracks, I can get to a working DD track and the commentary tracks.
Also, when first played back on the BDP-BX1, if I do not select a menu button after the intro warnings finish and the menu starts, menu audio is only heard for the first loop of the menu, then silence as the motion menu video continues.
With PowerDVD, audio is heard after the first loop thru the menu and continues as long as a button is not selected, which would appear to be the proper way.

EDIT: add INF file.

[Status]
LABEL=DIE_HARD_2
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=41583602636
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=41209141248
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.576153394440179
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=21
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00001]
AUDIO=11001
PGS=111101
M2TS_TARGET=18141107450
RATE=15032
NSIZE=17645131776
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=17699
RATE=500
NSIZE=12288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00004]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=58726716
RATE=11877
NSIZE=56573952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00005]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=428811226
RATE=19546
NSIZE=416962560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=306943555
RATE=16532
NSIZE=297922560
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00007]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=284854663
RATE=15051
NSIZE=275859456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=337177725
RATE=6413
NSIZE=329109504
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=381833392
RATE=5496
NSIZE=373352448
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=231650170
RATE=6664
NSIZE=226185216
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=434414866
RATE=6600
NSIZE=424224768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00014]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=90320203
RATE=5467
NSIZE=88780800
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=177617343
RATE=6400
NSIZE=174170112
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=188605150
RATE=7676
NSIZE=183859200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00017]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=227083716
RATE=6619
NSIZE=221491200
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00018]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=1277268911
RATE=6603
NSIZE=1247791104
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00019]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=373794310
RATE=6646
NSIZE=365064192
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00020]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=68256091
RATE=6189
NSIZE=66742272
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=170937577
RATE=6365
NSIZE=167368704
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=107647947
RATE=7477
NSIZE=105050112
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00023]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=367464993
RATE=6614
NSIZE=358723584
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00024]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=88252909
RATE=21615
NSIZE=85395456
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

@Jdobbs

great work thusfar few to no errors
i did daredevil full disk to BD25, tested it in sony 550.
i noticed there are many subs and audio to choose from, thing is i take only english and dutch so i checked the settings and these were good then i examined the mpls file and surething they are still there but not in the clpi.

i think somewhere down the developement the mpls file is left untouched ???;)

greatzz Kooibosmania They are still there in the MPLS, but they have been adjusted to point to one of the audio streams that were retained. It isn't left untouched -- but you can't just "remove" the reference to the audio from the MPLS or you might make other functions have issues.

[jdobbs]

I may have spoke to soon. The test on PowerDVD does seem to work properly, but the burned BD-RE does not have the HD audio working.
BDInfo shows HD DTS Master audio is present, as does tsMuxeR, but it is not heard on playback on my Sony BDP-BX1.
I notice when selecting the audio button on the remote to change audio tracks, there is no audio heard, only silence on the removed French and Spanish DTS-HD tracks as well as the English DTS-HD track. I believe in BD-RB versions of past, the English audio track was heard even when scrolling thru the removed other audio tracks. Now there is only silence. Is that normal? For this disc, DTS HD English is the default audio track, and when the movie starts, video is playing normally, but just silence for audio. I did keep the DD AC3 track also, as well as the directors comments tracks, and those do work properly. So when I change audio tracks, I can get to a working DD track and the commentary tracks.
Also, when first played back on the BDP-BX1, if I do not select a menu button after the intro warnings finish and the menu starts, menu audio is only heard for the first loop of the menu, then silence as the motion menu video continues.
With PowerDVD, audio is heard after the first loop thru the menu and continues as long as a button is not selected, which would appear to be the proper way.

EDIT: add INF file. Nothing has changed related to that. It sounds like a player issue. You are connected via HDMI, right?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs, @aquanash

Hi!

Regarding "aquanash" and "Frost/Nixon":

In an earlier post to this thread by "aquanash", he/she stated:I've been using BDedit to manually add the SetStream command to force subtitles.Might this be related to, or the cause of the elimination of all but the first and last chapter markers?

[Capsbackup]

Nothing has changed related to that. It sounds like a player issue. You are connected via HDMI, right?

Yes, HDMI.
I rechecked and nothing has changed on my end.
I have no trouble with Die Hard, which was done with BD-RBV02302, and DTS HD Master audio plays fine. Also, when I select thru the different audio tracks, if DTS HD english is selected, it is heard even when I select DTS HD French or DTS HD Spanish. Not with BD-RBV02402, there is only silence.
Also, my tv screen, with the signal from bluray player, says DTS HD Master as well as my receiver when playing Die Hard, but with Die Hard 2, the tv screen says DTS HD Master, but the receiver says stereo, and no sound is heard. If I select the Dolby Digital track, audio is heard and the tv and receiver both say Dolby Digital. I hope that makes sense.
Could there be an issue with the .mpls or .clpi not passing the selected audio source on to connect with the HD DTS audio file? ( not sure if I am relaying that correctly either)

[Furiousflea]

Still doesn't work...

Just done "The Day The Earth Stood Still" again with 0.24.02 still having problems. Encode seems to go fine with no errors. Played the resulting burnt BD25 in PowerDVD9.

Main menu loads fine but when you go to play the main movie the FOX logo appears followed by the FBI warning and then...nothing. Same results from going to chaper selection. Just a blank screen...

So something is wrong somewhere still :)

[setarip_old]

@FuriousFlea

Hi!Played the resulting burnt BD25 in PowerDVD9.

Main menu loads fine but when you go to play the main movie the FOX logo appears followed by the FBI warning and then...nothing. Same results from going to chaper selection. Just a blank screen...Based on all of the playback inconsistencies between software and standalone players, noted in several threads here, perhaps you should try playing your burned disc on a standalone player (or several different ones, if available) before concluding thatSo something is wrong somewhere still

As an example, I had done a full disc backup of "Sex Drive". It starts out with a first menu providing for the choice of either "Theatrical" or "Unrated" versions.. With PowerDVD (v.7.3 with NO updates), after selecting one or the other, PowerDVD would just hang. On the other hand, a SONY 550 played the entire disc perfectly...

[Furiousflea]

@FuriousFlea

Hi!Based on all of the playback inconsistencies between software and standalone players, noted in several threads here, perhaps you should try playing your burned disc on a standalone player (or several different ones, if available) before concluding that

As an example, I had done a full disc backup of "Sex Drive". It starts out with a first menu providing for the choice of either "Theatrical" or "Unrated" versions.. With PowerDVD (v.7.3 with NO updates), after selecting one or the other, PowerDVD would just hang. On the other hand, a SONY 550 played the entire disc perfectly...

Not really, because the original DOES work in PowerDVD9. ;)

If the original works and the backup doesn't in the same player then the backup isn't being made correctly and there is a problem with BD-Rebuilder. Obviously this is assuming that there isn't a media compatibility problem etc. Which there isn't since its a software player.

Ahhh anyways, this is a similar problem to whats being reported already and seems to be related to PiP still...

[isoss]

Still doesn't work...

Just done "The Day The Earth Stood Still" again with 0.24.02 still having problems. Encode seems to go fine with no errors. Played the resulting burnt BD25 in PowerDVD9.

Main menu loads fine but when you go to play the main movie the FOX logo appears followed by the FBI warning and then...nothing. Same results from going to chaper selection. Just a blank screen...

So something is wrong somewhere still :)

Hello i have the same problem, the problem with the m2th is solved thanks to you bud when i play the movie on my computer it is black my settings are

for testing quest video encoding en with audo do not encode dts, ac3 en keep hd audio for blup-ray and i encode to a bd 25
ful backup

[setarip_old]

Not really, because the original DOES work in PowerDVD9.By now, I'm sure you understand that in the world of computers and standalone players, anything is possible ;>}

So, (I understand that the choice is yours) presuming you have a standalone player available, why not just take the few seconds to try and play it on your standalone player?

[Furiousflea]

By now, I'm sure you understand that in the world of computers and standalone players, anything is possible ;>}

So, (I understand that the choice is yours) presuming you have a standalone player available, why not just take the few seconds to try and play it on your standalone player?

Tried it out and it DOES play the main movie on my Sony S550. However it seems to keep hanging (picture\video freezes). You can skip a chapeter and it will play then few seconds later freeze again. Tested it again with a new BD-RE then looked at original and it seems that the freezing happens around the point the PIP video pops up to show how the special effects were made.

[aquanash]

@jdobbs, @aquanash

Hi!

Regarding "aquanash" and "Frost/Nixon":

In an earlier post to this thread by "aquanash", he/she stated:Might this be related to, or the cause of the elimination of all but the first and last chapter markers?

Thanks for putting some thought into this, but I only use BDEdit on the final out and since this movie doesn't have any forced subtitles, I have no need to use it.

[pandemonium91]

Looks like Taken worked with the new version. I did movie only. Although the chapter searches due tend to freeze it up.

[Kakashi Sensei]

@JDobbs - batman begins played perfect on th PS3. Did a quick chapter scan and it was great. Only problem I did encounter was the playing the dark knight preview. I really don't care about it though as I have that bd already. Thanks for fixing the issue.

[jdobbs]

Still doesn't work...

Just done "The Day The Earth Stood Still" again with 0.24.02 still having problems. Encode seems to go fine with no errors. Played the resulting burnt BD25 in PowerDVD9.

Main menu loads fine but when you go to play the main movie the FOX logo appears followed by the FBI warning and then...nothing. Same results from going to chaper selection. Just a blank screen...

So something is wrong somewhere still :) I just did it yesterday, and my copy plays fine. Don't know what is different.

[jdobbs]

Thanks for putting some thought into this, but I only use BDEdit on the final out and since this movie doesn't have any forced subtitles, I have no need to use it. I'm sorry -- but something has modified the source, perhaps the rip. I can only say that I did the movie from a AnyDVD rip and it has all the chapters inserted correctly. The problem isn't in BD-RB...

[aquanash]

I'm sorry -- but something has modified the source, perhaps the rip. I can only say that I did the movie from a AnyDVD rip and it has all the chapters inserted correctly. The problem isn't in BD-RB...

Agreed, that's what it seems like, something must have happened during the rip (I used anydvd to rip to iso). But what is strange is that I can see the chapters fine in eac3to. But like I said, I haven't seen this with any other disc, so I'll just assume something is wrong with my rip. I'll report back if I see this issue happen again with other discs.

[chudm]

Hi guys, i ripped today my kung fu panda bluray, full disc to bd25, everything works ok... but... when i select any scene from the movie, after 2 or 3 seconds it freeze! any suggestions? :( thx in advance! lost 2 bd-r doing this!

will re do the job with v.23.02 cause was reading about some problems like mine with the v.24

anyway ill let you know if my problems get solved! i hope so, so far 4 bd-r burned only 1 works good! the others 3 are coaster now!

my first experiences with bd-rs arent so good :(

[Chiamos]

Hi guys, i ripped today my kung fu panda bluray, full disc to bd25, everything works ok... but... when i select any scene from the movie, after 2 or 3 seconds it freeze! any suggestions? :( thx in advance! lost 2 bd-r doing this!

Hello chudm.
Why don't you test burn on BD-RE and prevent having the cost of just ending up with a bunch of coasters. Could be your media, hardware, software or many possibilities, but media is usually the culprit. Try another Movie Title and hope for better results.
Good Luck.

[jlriv]

Coming back with my problem now buried in the depths of the forum. All my output videos converted with bdrebuilder are reencoded in 4/3. It seems to be a DirectShow problem in fact. I tried to open several videos of various sizes, using each time avs scripts with Directshow, they all appear as 4/3 when opened in Virtual Dub...
This is what mediainfo says of the VID_00011.AVS.MKV that I found in the Work Files folder (the movie I reencoded was "Gandhi" R B)
Nom complet : O:\GANDHI RMD\WORKFILES\VID_00011.AVS.MKV
Format : Matroska
Taille du fichier : 19,5 Gio
Durée : 3h 11mn
Débit global moyen : 14,6 Mb/s
Application utilisée : x264
Bibliothèque utilisée : Haali Matroska Writer b0

Vidéo
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Profil du format : High@L4.1
Paramètres du format, CABAC : Oui
Paramètres du format, RefFrames : 3 images
Type de muxing : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Identifiant du codec : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Durée : 3h 11mn
Débit : 14,0 Mb/s
Débit nominal : 14,6 Mb/s
Largeur : 1 920 pixels
Hauteur : 1 440 pixels
Format à l'écran : 4/3
Images par seconde : 23,976 Im/s
Résolution : 24 bits
Colorimétrie : 4:2:0
Type d'image : Progressif
Bits/(Pixel*Image) : 0.211
Bibliothèque utilisée : x264 core 67 r1173 f6d3166
Paramètres d'encodage : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.2 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=14594 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=25000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.80

logfiles :
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[23:34:21] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: GANDHI
- Input BD size: 41,71 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:14:42.379]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[23:34:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:34:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [23:34:41] Collecting video information [00081]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- [23:34:41] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:34:41] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 3)
- [23:35:42] Video Encode complete
- [23:35:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:35:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:35:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [23:36:49] Collecting video information [00511]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- [23:36:49] Reencoding: VID_00511, Pass 1 of 1
- [23:36:49] Reencoding: VID_00511 (2 of 3)
- [23:41:44] Video Encode complete
- [23:41:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:41:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:42:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
-----------------------
[06:29:32] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: GANDHI
- Input BD size: 41,71 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:14:42.379]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[06:29:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [06:29:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [08:17:49] Collecting video information [00011]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 14*538 Kbs
- [08:17:49] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [12:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:22:33] Video Encode complete
- [23:22:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:22:33] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:24:35]PHASE ONE complete
[00:24:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00:24:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:26:30] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:26:30]JOB: GANDHI completed.
-----------------------
[00:30:17] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: GANDHI
- Input BD size: 41,71 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:14:42.379]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[00:30:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:30:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [00:30:41] Collecting video information [00081]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- [00:30:41] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:30:41] Reencoding: VID_00081 (1 of 3)
- [00:31:42] Video Encode complete
- [00:31:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:31:42] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:31:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [00:32:47] Collecting video information [00511]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- [00:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00511, Pass 1 of 1
- [00:32:47] Reencoding: VID_00511 (2 of 3)
- [00:37:43] Video Encode complete
- [00:37:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [00:37:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [00:38:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [02:18:03] Collecting video information [00011]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps
- Bitrate: 14*594 Kbs
- [02:18:03] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [06:35:29] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
-----------------------
[21:14:48] BD Rebuilder v0.24.01 (beta)
- Source: GANDHI
- Input BD size: 41,71 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:14:42.379]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[21:14:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:14:50] Collecting video information [00011]
- [21:14:50] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:10:43] Video Encode complete
- [08:10:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:10:43] Multiplexing M2TS

Any idea ?

[saphire199]

Sorry it took so long to get back - I tried the new beta (24.02) on death race and am still getting the same GUI error,(GUI issue, etc) I tried it twice to be sure. It happens at different points in the streams, but is still there.

[jdobbs]

Coming back with my problem now buried in the depths of the forum. All my output videos converted with bdrebuilder are reencoded in 4/3. It seems to be a DirectShow problem in fact. I tried to open several videos of various sizes, using each time avs scripts with Directshow, they all appear as 4/3 when opened in Virtual Dub...
BD-RB doesn't get the aspect ratio from DirectShow -- it gets it from the CLPI file of the original. But, even with that said, unless the source was encoded 720:480/576 the sar is set to 1:1 when it reencodes. You can look at the actual command line used to encode the last component -- it is stored in LASTCMD.TXT which is in the BD-RB folder.

[jdobbs]

Sorry it took so long to get back - I tried the new beta (24.02) on death race and am still getting the same GUI error,(GUI issue, etc) I tried it twice to be sure. It happens at different points in the streams, but is still there. Honestly I haven't a clue. I first heard of that problem when I changed the way the GUI was getting the window handle from the operating system. I could never figure out why it didn't work for some (it never happened on mine), so I just switched back to the original method. Since I did that it appears for work correctly on all systems except yours. I've gone over the code with a fine tooth comb. It is correct. That only leaves the operating system. I put that message in the LOG to show that after trying multiple times through system calls, the operating system would not return the X264 window handle.

[jdobbs]

Has anyone tried PiP with the new version? I know the sound is missing, but is the picture working? My Sony BDP S-301 player doesn't support PiP so I haven't been able to test it.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Has anyone tried PiP with the new version? I know the sound is missing, but is the picture working? My Sony BDP S-301 player doesn't support PiP so I haven't been able to test it.

I just tested on batman begins on the PS3 and I get PiP w/no audio :)

[jdobbs]

Cool. It appears I may be able to get the secondary audio to work for the next version, but only if it is DD+. I still haven't found a way to get it to work for DTS-HD.

[Sn8kbordin]

Can I adjust target size in BD-RB to back-up movie only with one audio track and subs to DVD-9?
It keeps on undersizing, sometimes 200MB, latest version undersized 434MB.

[chudm]

Hello chudm.
Why don't you test burn on BD-RE and prevent having the cost of just ending up with a bunch of coasters. Could be your media, hardware, software or many possibilities, but media is usually the culprit. Try another Movie Title and hope for better results.
Good Luck.

hi chiamos, thx for the advice, but id alredy ordered one (i have to order it from amazon.com, then use a currier to send it from usa to venezuela) hahaha, its a very expensive way to get things, but... in venezuela you dont see this stuff, its new, and im tired of looking for bd-r or bd-re here

[tekmobile]

Is everyone recieving subscription emails for this thread because I have not had one for about 2 days.

[chudm]

anyone having this problem with lastest version of bd rebuilder?

everything works ok... but... when i select any scene from the movie, after 2 or 3 seconds it freeze! any suggestions?, or if i press play (on the movie) only shows the fbi warning and then no video

[jlriv]

BD-RB doesn't get the aspect ratio from DirectShow -- it gets it from the CLPI file of the original. But, even with that said, unless the source was encoded 720:480/576 the sar is set to 1:1 when it reencodes. You can look at the actual command line used to encode the last component -- it is stored in LASTCMD.TXT which is in the BD-RB folder.
Yes indeed, I've seen it and it's correct...
As is the clpi, it does give the video as 16:9 (I opened it with CLIPINF editor). In the output video, the clpi files reads the a:r as 4:3
All the encodes (2 others : The Professionals and Southland tales) had the same problem. I had used older versions bdrebuilder on 3 or 4 bd's and did not have any problem.
Any DirectShow script I open (whether the source is a vob file or a mkv ) has the same problem. It opens as 4:3 with black bars !

[LowDead]

Has anyone tried PiP with the new version? I know the sound is missing, but is the picture working? My Sony BDP S-301 player doesn't support PiP so I haven't been able to test it.

I'm encoding King Kong US version right now. It has PiP. Should be able to test result in a couple of hours on PS3. Full Backup to BD25. And just so I understand right after been away so long from testing. There shouldn't be any issues with PS3 full backup BD25 playback, yes? The reason that I ask is that I have had no success with the three last builds(before the newest one, which will be tested later tonight or tomorrow) on Afro Samurai Resurrection US.

One odd thing I saw today while encoding KK. BD-RB froze/stopped responding when doing some multiplexing. Took like forever. Haven't seen that before. Is that normal? Will post logs later on.

/LD

[GaPony]

Can I adjust target size in BD-RB to back-up movie only with one audio track and subs to DVD-9?
It keeps on undersizing, sometimes 200MB, latest version undersized 434MB.

For what its worth... I set the custom size to 8250mb and its usually 98% or 99% according to ImgBurn. I'd much rather end up a litttle undersized than oversized. I think someone said they used 8300mb as the custom size for BD9.

After setting the custom size in Settings, just select the custom size instead of BD9 for output.

[chudm]

anyone having this problem with lastest version of bd rebuilder?

everything works ok... but... when i select any scene from the movie, after 2 or 3 seconds it freeze! any suggestions?, or if i press play (on the movie) only shows the fbi warning and then no video

im doing again the rip of kung fu panda to bd-25 on beta v.23.02 will let you know if my new copy keeps freezing after fbi warning or every chapter after 2 o 3 seconds of playing the movie... btw anyone had ripped before kung fu panda?

pd: i got an external hd can i copye the movie and play it from there? cause at the momment i dont have any bd-re

btw what bd-re do you suggest me for ps3?

[Furiousflea]

im doing again the rip of kung fu panda to bd-25 on beta v.23.02 will let you know if my new copy keeps freezing after fbi warning or every chapter after 2 o 3 seconds of playing the movie... btw anyone had ripped before kung fu panda?

pd: i got an external hd can i copye the movie and play it from there? cause at the momment i dont have any bd-re

btw what bd-re do you suggest me for ps3?

I get that EXACT problem with "The Day The Earth Stood Still"...

jdobbs can you double check your backup works fine because this seems like abit too much of a coincence to me :)

[chudm]

I get that EXACT problem with "The Day The Earth Stood Still"...

jdobbs can you double check your backup works fine because this seems like abit too much of a coincence to me :)

i got this problem with the newer betas (v0.24), im doing kung fu panda again with beta v0.23.02 ill tell you if it worked ok :), btw what bd-re is it good for testing it on ps3?

[Furiousflea]

Has anyone tried PiP with the new version? I know the sound is missing, but is the picture working? My Sony BDP S-301 player doesn't support PiP so I haven't been able to test it.

jdobbs maybe this is why your backup of TDTESS works fine due to using a profile 1.0 player?

[Furiousflea]

i got this problem with the newer betas (v0.24), im doing kung fu panda again with beta v0.23.02 ill tell you if it worked ok :), btw what bd-re is it good for testing it on ps3?

Dunno on the BD-RE. But I'm pretty sure that the problem we're expericening is due to the PIP tracks on the discs. I know Kung Fu Panda has at least 2 video tracks in the main movie.

I'll bet that the older version works fine.

[chudm]

Dunno on the BD-RE. But I'm pretty sure that the problem we're expericening is due to the PIP tracks on the discs. I know Kung Fu Panda has at least 2 video tracks in the main movie.

I'll bet that the older version works fine.

yeah im guessing that! thats why im doing it again with beta v0.23.02

[drmih]

Cool. It appears I may be able to get the secondary audio to work for the next version, but only if it is DD+. I still haven't found a way to get it to work for DTS-HD.

Is there any work-around based upon commercial encoders, similar to the way of getting around the vc-1 issue?

[jdobbs]

Can I adjust target size in BD-RB to back-up movie only with one audio track and subs to DVD-9?
It keeps on undersizing, sometimes 200MB, latest version undersized 434MB. What version are you using? The latest has improved sizing. But 200MB is still still accurate to within 2.5% -- which is exactly where it is supposed to be by design.

But, yes. You can set the custom size to whatever you'd like.

[jdobbs]

Yes indeed, I've seen it and it's correct...
As is the clpi, it does give the video as 16:9 (I opened it with CLIPINF editor). In the output video, the clpi files reads the a:r as 4:3
All the encodes (2 others : The Professionals and Southland tales) had the same problem. I had used older versions bdrebuilder on 3 or 4 bd's and did not have any problem.
Any DirectShow script I open (whether the source is a vob file or a mkv ) has the same problem. It opens as 4:3 with black bars ! I have to believe that something else besides BD-RB or is at fault for this... its possible it could be the decoder.

[jdobbs]

I get that EXACT problem with "The Day The Earth Stood Still"...

jdobbs can you double check your backup works fine because this seems like abit too much of a coincence to me :) I watched the whole movie, and jumped between chapers several times.

I'll run it again and see if I find anything different. I also got a different brand of player today (SAMSUNG) so I can do some testing outside of my Sony (which seems fairly invulnerable).

I really can't think of anything that has changed that might even be remotely related to that... but I'll go back over ALL the changes.

[chudm]

hey jdobbs thx for all you hard work! but can u check again the lastest beta version, cause i tried with kung fu banda (pip) and id had the problems with black screen after fbi warning, or no video after 2 or 3 seconds of any chapter... ill test again kung fu panda with v.0.23.02, ill be done in 1 hour

[chudm]

I watched the whole movie, and jumped between chapers several times.

I'll run it again and see if I find anything different. I also got a different brand of player today (SAMSUNG) so I can do some testing outside of my Sony (which seems fairly invulnerable).

I really can't think of anything that has changed that might relate to that...

i tested my rip on a ps3, with phillips bd-r and memorex (ritek) bdr, burned at 2x and 4x, and still had those problems... i ripped some days ago with v.0.23.02 my within temptation concert and burnt it at 4x and played fine on my ps3 (with memorex, didnt have any phillips in that time), but it seems like the lastest beta had problems with pip, at least for me and Furiousflea

[chudm]

jdobbs, i ripped again kung fu panda with beta v.0.23.02 and worked fine on my ps3! so its the new betas that are having problems with pip!

[LowDead]

I can also report exactly the same behaviour as previous speakers with PiP movies. I just tested King Kong on my PS3. Everything works flawlessly except it freezes at every chapter after 2-5 seconds. Also VID_00289 was the one needed multiplexing if I remember correctly. When BD-RB were multiplexing it froze up and did not respond for half a minute. Then % jumped up alittle and it froze again over and over. CPU and memory usage was not much at all. Max 10%.

/LD

LOG:
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[02:28:34] BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta)
- Source: KING_KONG
- Input BD size: 36,14 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:06.278]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[02:28:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:28:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00269]
- [02:28:37] Reencoding: VID_00269 (1 of 31)
- [02:37:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00278]
- [02:37:27] Reencoding: VID_00278 (2 of 31)
- [02:40:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- [02:40:14] Reencoding: VID_00279 (3 of 31)
- [02:44:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00280]
- [02:44:13] Reencoding: VID_00280 (4 of 31)
- [02:46:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00281]
- [02:46:41] Reencoding: VID_00281 (5 of 31)
- [02:50:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00286]
- [02:52:42] Reencoding: VID_00286 (6 of 31)
- [07:37:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00287]
- [07:38:10] Reencoding: VID_00287 (7 of 31)
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[20:06:21]PHASE ONE complete
[20:06:21]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [20:06:21] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[20:06:30] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[20:06:30]JOB: KING_KONG ended.

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[chudm]

yeap it seems that the problem it still there on the lastest beta, cause everything worked fine on v.0.23.02

Btw jdobbs my fooo fighters wembley bluray on full disc it plays on the ps3, but i cant select anything on the menu, it doesnt highlight anything! what do you suggest me to do?


pd: LowDead do you use bd-re on your ps3?

[jdobbs]

Dunno on the BD-RE. But I'm pretty sure that the problem we're expericening is due to the PIP tracks on the discs. I know Kung Fu Panda has at least 2 video tracks in the main movie.

I'll bet that the older version works fine. Is this behaviour only on PiP sources? If so -- it may be the way in which TSMUXER creates the M2TS. My player doesn't support PiP and maybe that's why it plays it back without issue...

It may be a good idea just to disable PiP support on the next release until I get a better feel for what's going on. I can probably make them encode/play correctly -- but without the PiP.

I took the Samsung back... too many of my backups won't play on it.

[LowDead]

yeap it seems that the problem it still there on the lastest beta, cause everything worked fine on v.0.23.02

Btw jdobbs my fooo fighters wembley bluray on full disc it plays on the ps3, but i cant select anything on the menu, it doesnt highlight anything! what do you suggest me to do?


pd: LowDead do you use bd-re on your ps3?

Yes, I use TDK, Verbatim and LG BD-RE discs.

//LD

[Furiousflea]

Is this behaviour only on PiP sources? If so -- it may be the way in which TSMUXER creates the M2TS. My player doesn't support PiP and maybe that's why it plays it back without issue...

It may be a good idea just to disable PiP support on the next release until I get a better feel for what's going on. I can probably make them encode/play correctly -- but without the PiP.

I took the Samsung back... too many of my backups won't play on it.

I've only done 2 discs with the latest beta. 1 with PiP (TDTESS) and "Inside Man" which doesn't have PiP. Inside Man plays fine no issues...

So I'd assume it's defo only affecting PiP discs.

I don't mean to patronise but have you signified to tsmuxer that the 2nd video track is a PiP track when muxing...Thanks for the hard work and bug squashing. BDRB is really developing into superb project.

[chudm]

Yes, I use TDK, Verbatim and LG BD-RE discs.

//LD

thx man, im from venezuela and was wondering what brand should i buy from amazon.com :D

edit: i just ordered 2 verbatim bd-re from amazon :D thx for the info

edit2: yeah jdobbs, the problem are with the pip movies! ill keep doing the rips with the v.0.23.02 :) thx for the hard job!

[JimmyK]

I always convert down to 720p because I have a 720p TV; to save space with file sizes; and to preserve quality in comparison to 1080p with the same DVD-5 size.

This program looks like a wonderful creation for quick and easy backups. I've converted two moves and each of them come out at 1080p with a very large black border around the edges almost as if the picture was resized to 720p within a larger 1080p encode. I have the 720p option checked in the settings.

I read elsewhere in this thread there is a bug and suggestions to fix it. I just wondered if someone could tell me the quick and dirty method so I don't have to reencode over and over until I find it myself.

Thanks in advance!

[jdobbs]

I've only done 2 discs with the latest beta. 1 with PiP (TDTESS) and "Inside Man" which doesn't have PiP. Inside Man plays fine no issues...

So I'd assume it's defo only affecting PiP discs.

I don't mean to patronise but have you signified to tsmuxer that the 2nd video track is a PiP track when muxing...Thanks for the hard work and bug squashing. BDRB is really developing into superb project. Yes, I tell it that it is a secondary track. It uses an odd PID, though, compared to original discs -- but I change it to match in the MPLS before burning.

[jdobbs]

I always convert down to 720p because I have a 720p TV; to save space with file sizes; and to preserve quality in comparison to 1080p with the same DVD-5 size.

This program looks like a wonderful creation for quick and easy backups. I've converted two moves and each of them come out at 1080p with a very large black border around the edges almost as if the picture was resized to 720p within a larger 1080p encode. I have the 720p option checked in the settings.

I read elsewhere in this thread there is a bug and suggestions to fix it. I just wondered if someone could tell me the quick and dirty method so I don't have to reencode over and over until I find it myself.

Thanks in advance!How do you play it back? I haven't tested it in a long time, but it should play back correctly on a standalone. Some PC players will do what you've indicated -- incorrectly.

[jdobbs]

I've only done 2 discs with the latest beta. 1 with PiP (TDTESS) and "Inside Man" which doesn't have PiP. Inside Man plays fine no issues...

So I'd assume it's defo only affecting PiP discs.

I don't mean to patronise but have you signified to tsmuxer that the 2nd video track is a PiP track when muxing...Thanks for the hard work and bug squashing. BDRB is really developing into superb project. I'm going to pick up a Sony BDP-360 so I can test the PiP playback.

[Capsbackup]

I'm going to pick up a Sony BDP-360 so I can test the PiP playback.

Probably too late now, but Fry's had a 1 day sale for $199.99 for the BDP-360 for 4th of July sale.

[jdobbs]

That would have been nice. But there's no Fry's near me. I got it at a reasonable price at Wal-Mart.

[GaPony]

I took the Samsung back... too many of my backups won't play on it.

I could have told you that! :) On the other hand, if you can get the Samsung to play everything as well as your BDP-S300, you'd be a real hero.

I think you'd be better to stick with the Sony players since they are better supported by the manufacturer than any other brand, and they are so competitively priced for basic models. The BDP-S360 would probably be a good choice, or the BDP-BX2 from Walmart/Sam's Club. Both are likely to be big sellers and have many more features than the BDP-S300. I think Sony will necessarily be the standard that all other brands will eventually have to meet.... given their prominent position on forcing Blu-Ray as the defacto HD standard over HD-DVD. The PS3 would also be a good choice because its infinitely upgradeable and the installed base is already pretty large.

Just one man's opinion.....

[chudm]

btw guys, im using w7 rc, and will try to backup my batman the dark knight bluray, i have to delete prefered folder on the register, and select wmp9 for vc1 in ffdshow right? thx!

edit: i did what i say, found that here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290

but then this happened:

23:53:34] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
- Input BD size: 37,92 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:47:28.960]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
[23:53:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:53:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [23:53:36] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 4)
[23:54:39] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[chudm]

same problem with batman begins :(, on windows 7 rc, can anyone help me with this movie and bd-rebuilder? sorry if had been discussed before, im new at this site, and checked several pages but my eyes cant take it anymore! thx in advance!

[massiah]

I could have told you that! :) On the other hand, if you can get the Samsung to play everything as well as your BDP-S300, you'd be a real hero.


To be honest...I had a Samsung BDP1500 and it played every backup I ever made with BD Rebuilder.
The PS3 was a given...99% of the time but I could always count on that Sammy.

Just thought I would share that.

[jlriv]

I have to believe that something else besides BD-RB or is at fault for this... its possible it could be the decoder.
It's a problem with Direct Show filters. Something is on which forces 4:3 (Just saw that BS Player resizes all my avis -which I hadn't used for a long time- to 4:3 with black bars. ) Anyone know where I can get info about that ?

[chudm]

hi guys im finally doing batman bluray with the previos method i read on http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290, anyway im waiting to test it if it worked fine.... wont be a problem for playing the bluray on my ps3?

[jdobbs]

I've only done 2 discs with the latest beta. 1 with PiP (TDTESS) and "Inside Man" which doesn't have PiP. Inside Man plays fine no issues...

So I'd assume it's defo only affecting PiP discs.

I don't mean to patronise but have you signified to tsmuxer that the 2nd video track is a PiP track when muxing...Thanks for the hard work and bug squashing. BDRB is really developing into superb project. Well, I did "Day the Earth Stood Still" again last night. It works completely on my Sony BDP S-360, including the PiP... I ran it on my internal test version of v0.24.3... which has some additional changes but nothing that is related to this...

[jdobbs]

Well, I did "Day the Earth Stood Still" again last night. It works completely on my Sony BDP S-360, including the PiP... I ran it on my internal test version of v0.24.3... which has some additional changes but nothing that is related to this... @Furiousflea

Well in reviewing the code, I think I may have found something. Hopefully it'll help with the issue you've experienced. Interesting, though, that the Sony plays it anyway.

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea

Well in reviewing the code, I think I may have found something. Hopefully it'll help with the issue you've experienced. Interesting, though, that the Sony plays it anyway.

Sounds good thanx, look forward to checking it out :)

[chudm]

@Furiousflea

Well in reviewing the code, I think I may have found something. Hopefully it'll help with the issue you've experienced. Interesting, though, that the Sony plays it anyway.

cool awaiting the new version ;)

btw jdobbs do u have any suggestion for my foo fighters bluray? i mean when i play it on my pc works perfect, but on my ps3, runs, but when the menu starts, i cant highlight anything and can play the concert!

[Kakashi Sensei]

same problem with batman begins :(, on windows 7 rc, can anyone help me with this movie and bd-rebuilder? sorry if had been discussed before, im new at this site, and checked several pages but my eyes cant take it anymore! thx in advance!
You need to make sure your running the registy edit properly. I have Win7 RC1 and i do all my backups just fine. Just completed Batman Begins the other day as reported back a few pages ago.

I messed around with it for over 2 hrs till BD-RB started to work. Problem is, this isn't a released ver. of Windows so JDobbs doesnt' support it.

If you aren't comfortable with playing in the registry you might want to move away from Win7 for now.

KS

[chudm]

You need to make sure your running the registy edit properly. I have Win7 RC1 and i do all my backups just fine. Just completed Batman Begins the other day as reported back a few pages ago.

I messed around with it for over 2 hrs till BD-RB started to work. Problem is, this isn't a released ver. of Windows so JDobbs doesnt' support it.

If you aren't comfortable with playing in the registry you might want to move away from Win7 for now.

KS

i think its working, its a bit slow than usual, but will be done on 5 or 6 hours full backup to bd-25, it should work :D, btw it should play fine on the ps3 right? cause it was converted from vc1- to x264

pd: im still trying to get working my foo fighters wembley full backup bd-25 bluray on the ps3, cause cant get throught the menu, but plays fine on the pc

[Kakashi Sensei]

i think its working, its a bit slow than usual, but will be done on 5 or 6 hours full backup to bd-25, it should work :D, btw it should play fine on the ps3 right? cause it was converted from vc1- to x264

pd: im still trying to get working my foo fighters wembley full backup bd-25 bluray on the ps3, cause cant get throught the menu, but plays fine on the pc

Everything works perfect for Batman Begins. It doesn't matter that it converted from VC-1 to H264. The only thing you will find not working is the PiP. it will work but with no audio.

I must say is that total time 5-6 hrs for a full bd-25 backup? You must have a beefy i7 or something b/c on my Quad Core it takes like 14hr+ to do a full bd-25 :D

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have been trying to back up Die Hard 2, region A, full movie backup, keep DTS HD Master audio, to BD-25, but am having confusing results. I initially tried with BD-RBV02402, and reported that the HD audio is silent on playback on my BDP-BX1, but is heard on the computer, and you mentioned nothing has changed with regards to this issue. So I tried it again with BD-RBV02302, and experienced the same results. One more try with BD-RBV02402 except I chose to Do Not Convert DTS to AC3. This time the audio is heard, but is only DTS, not DTS HD Master.
Anal as I can be at times, I tried a movie only backup to BD-25, keep HD Audio, and this time it works. Audio is heard and is DTS HD Master, per my HD receiver.
So I am curious why on a full movie backup it does not work, but on a movie only it does?

I have also successfully backed up two more full movie backups, with DTS HD Master audio, since Die Hard 2, with BD-RBV02402. :confused:

[chudm]

Everything works perfect for Batman Begins. It doesn't matter that it converted from VC-1 to H264. The only thing you will find not working is the PiP. it will work but with no audio.

I must say is that total time 5-6 hrs for a full bd-25 backup? You must have a beefy i7 or something b/c on my Quad Core it takes like 14hr+ to do a full bd-25 :D

hahahaha i wish man! id been thinking to make the move to i7, but i spent 300$ on 30 bd-r and the lg bluray writer, and last week i bought a panasonic lumix dmc-zs3 (can record video in hd as avchd lite, 1280x720), so for the moment im broke! :(

5-6 hours left i meant... now 4 hours left! i got an e8400 oced to 3.6 ghz! so it should take like 20 hours for batman!

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
I have been trying to back up Die Hard 2, region A, full movie backup, keep DTS HD Master audio, to BD-25, but am having confusing results. I initially tried with BD-RBV02402, and reported that the HD audio is silent on playback on my BDP-BX1, but is heard on the computer, and you mentioned nothing has changed with regards to this issue. So I tried it again with BD-RBV02302, and experienced the same results. One more try with BD-RBV02402 except I chose to Do Not Convert DTS to AC3. This time the audio is heard, but is only DTS, not DTS HD Master.
Anal as I can be at times, I tried a movie only backup to BD-25, keep HD Audio, and this time it works. Audio is heard and is DTS HD Master, per my HD receiver.
So I am curious why on a full movie backup it does not work, but on a movie only it does?

I have also successfully backed up two more full movie backups, with DTS HD Master audio, since Die Hard 2, with BD-RBV02402. :confused: Look in the working directory and see if you can get the .AC3 file to play. Is it possible that this is a 7.1 source, and that's the issue?

[jdobbs]

hahahaha i wish man! id been thinking to make the move to i7, but i spent 300$ on 30 bd-r and the lg bluray writer, and last week i bought a panasonic lumix dmc-zs3 (can record video in hd as avchd lite, 1280x720), so for the moment im broke! :(

5-6 hours left i meant... now 4 hours left! i got an e8400 oced to 3.6 ghz! so it should take like 20 hours for batman! You might be surprised how fast you'll be able to do a BD-25 backup in one-pass CRF mode -- wait for the next release. :)

[Capsbackup]

Look in the working directory and see if you can get the .AC3 file to play. Is it possible that this is a 7.1 source, and that's the issue?

I can get the .ac3 to play, but it is only 2 channel DD. The DTS HD is not 7.1.
It does work properly with movie only BD-25!!
Just will not work with full movie backup to BD-25.

EDIT:
I guess my confusion comes from a movie only backup to BD-25 with DTS HD Master audio works fine. Full movie has only silence.
I have successfully made full backups to BD-25 with HD DTS Master audio for Die Hard and Die Hard 3(With a Vengeance), and will be testing Live Free or Die Hard soon.

[chudm]

You might be surprised how fast you'll be able to do a BD-25 backup in one-pass CRF mode -- wait for the next release. :)

but i supose this will affect the final quality right? quicker for encoding, less quality? :D

[jdobbs]

but i supose this will affect the final quality right? quicker for encoding, less quality? :D Not really. BD-25 gives you a lot of room for bitrate -- and X264 is a very good encoder.

The trade off is more between sizing accuracy and speed than quality and speed. I've put some variables in to help smooth it out as folks test it, though.

[chudm]

Not really. BD-25 gives you a lot of room for bitrate -- and X264 is a very good encoder.

The trade off is more between sizing accuracy and speed than quality and speed. I've put some variables in to help smooth it out as folks test it, though.

great news then, cant wait!:D keep it up the good work man!

btw now that i got your attention :) i did a full backup of my foo fighters bluray but on my pc works good (well thinking about it the video for the menu enters, then i have to wait like 30 seconds and can see the options on the menu), but on my ps3 i never get to see the options on the menu, and cant play the concert, what do you suggest me man? thx!

[JBear]

Hey guys, been doing much reading here and using the newest version with much success. Could someone help me out with settings for keeping pcm audio.Looking to do "The Patriot",which is also multi-part. Any help would be appreciated.

[Furiousflea]

Hey guys, been doing much reading here and using the newest version with much success. Could someone help me out with settings for keeping pcm audio.Looking to do "The Patriot",which is also multi-part. Any help would be appreciated.

tick "Keep HD Audio" in the options menu. Make sure you are encoding to BD25 size as PCM audio takes masses of space and is definately not worth keeping on a DVD9 backup unless you are doing pristine quality animation bluray with virtually no extras.

The setting only becomes active if you set the desired output size to *above* the defauly DVD9 output size.

I wouldn't recommend using it for DVD9 output unless you really know what you are doing anyway.

[Furiousflea]

great news then, cant wait!:D keep it up the good work man!

btw now that i got your attention :) i did a full backup of my foo fighters bluray but on my pc works good (well thinking about it the video for the menu enters, then i have to wait like 30 seconds and can see the options on the menu), but on my ps3 i never get to see the options on the menu, and cant play the concert, what do you suggest me man? thx!

This is quite strange I've encountered the same thing but with "Take That The Ultimate Tour" bluray music video disc. After encoding, the menu overlay text isn't there. Just a video that plays on a loop and you can't play anything.

This was tested in PowerDVD9 and on version 0.23.03 but I assume that hasn't been fixed yet. See my post 2\3 pages back on the issue.

[chudm]

This is quite strange I've encountered the same thing but with "Take That The Ultimate Tour" bluray music video disc. After encoding, the menu overlay text isn't there. Just a video that plays on a loop and you can't play anything.

This was tested in PowerDVD9 and on version 0.23.03 but I assume that hasn't been fixed yet. See my post 2\3 pages back on the issue.

this is my problem! and was my first rebuild :p lost 2 bd-r testing that concert :angry: hadnt try it with the lastest version only with 0.23.02 cause i hadnt any problems (only with that bluray) with this version

[jdobbs]

this is my problem! and was my first rebuild :p lost 2 bd-r testing that concert :angry: hadnt try it with the lastest version only with 0.23.02 cause i hadnt any problems (only with that bluray) with this version BD-RE, my man, BD-RE. This is beta software.

[chudm]

BD-RE, my man, BD-RE. This is beta software.

yeah man i know, but was my first experience on the bluray ripping-burning ;) i dont regret to lost those bd-r, i know bluray backup still isnt 100% perfect, plus you are working very hard on it :D, i ordered 2 bd-re last weekend from amazon, now i have to wait like 2 weeks to arrive to my country :)

btw jbodds what about the problem with furiousflea and me?

After encoding, the menu overlay text isn't there. Just a video that plays on a loop and you can't play anything.

only happened to me with the foo fighters concert, and for seriousflea with "Take That The Ultimate Tour" pretty weird

[GaPony]

I think everyone knows you have problems with your Foo Fighters disc by now. I'm sure jdobbs has added it to his rather lengthy "to do" list. In the meantime, just do what the rest of us do... put it aside until the issues have been addressed in an update. :)

Even in the DVD world, music video products are a little different critter than regular movies.

[chudm]

I think everyone knows you have problems with your Foo Fighters disc by now. I'm sure jdobbs has added it to his rather lengthy "to do" list. In the meantime, just do what the rest of us do... put it aside until the issues have been addressed in an update. :)

Even in the DVD world, music video products are a little different critter than regular movies.

hahaha yeah yeah i know i said it already too much, sorry :o

[JBear]

tick "Keep HD Audio" in the options menu. Make sure you are encoding to BD25 size as PCM audio takes masses of space and is definately not worth keeping on a DVD9 backup unless you are doing pristine quality animation bluray with virtually no extras.

The setting only becomes active if you set the desired output size to *above* the defauly DVD9 output size.

I wouldn't recommend using it for DVD9 output unless you really know what you are doing anyway.
thanks for response flea, I fooled with some settings last night.Here is what I did:ticked"do not con. dts"
ticked"do not reencode ac3"
ticked"use 448 for ac3"
ticked"keep haudio" Now heres the thing, I manually removed all extras,leaving only the menu and main(2 part)title. Everything seems to have worked. I will burn test and report back.Here is a copy of my setup:
[Status]
LABEL=33636844_PATRIOT
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42994232296
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42818832384
TARGET_SIZE=25060966400
REDUCTION=.581182743724206
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00138]
AUDIO=01000
PGS=10001111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=16378349101
RATE=12139
NSIZE=15663341568
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00139]
AUDIO=01000
PGS=10001111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=8507217387
RATE=12255
NSIZE=8138711040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
mounted iso to powerdvd and it worked.burning now will update shortly.

[jangai]

Hi all,
With backup of Animatrix BD : got a new problem
I had kept only DD EN, DD THD EN, DD FR for audio and all PGS tracks in requested parameters. All seemed well processed into log file.

When I look at my main movies m2ts files with TSmuxR : I see my 3 audio tracks and all PGS like asked to BD_RB

But when I run a BD-RE burned disc with my PS3, I can play only FR audio and FR PGS track... Other operations are not possible...

I don't know why this beahviour : I have got many successful RIP with BD_RB in similar conditions...

Perhaps I can correct wrong status with BDedit to find back all my tracks available with my PS3 ? But I am not enough an "easy player" with BDedit to find the right changes (I can just change region code... :))

Thanks in advance for your help...

[JBear]

thanks for response flea, I fooled with some settings last night.Here is what I did:ticked"do not con. dts"
ticked"do not reencode ac3"
ticked"use 448 for ac3"
ticked"keep haudio" Now heres the thing, I manually removed all extras,leaving only the menu and main(2 part)title. Everything seems to have worked. I will burn test and report back.Here is a copy of my setup:
[Status]
LABEL=33636844_PATRIOT
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=42994232296
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=42818832384
TARGET_SIZE=25060966400
REDUCTION=.581182743724206
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=2
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00138]
AUDIO=01000
PGS=10001111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=16378349101
RATE=12139
NSIZE=15663341568
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00139]
AUDIO=01000
PGS=10001111111111111111111111
M2TS_TARGET=8507217387
RATE=12255
NSIZE=8138711040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
mounted iso to powerdvd and it worked.burning now will update shortly.
burned to bd-r 25 and all is working.Jdobbs, THANK YOU for this phenominal program!
If you want my work files from this, let me know and I will get them to you.

[tekmobile]

@ JDobbs
Just had the GUI issue, no hWnd returned. error
(first time ive ever had this issue)

It happened when the encode finished the first pass and was starting the second but displayed before the encode had started and the x264 window had no information to return.

So maybe the problem could be that the GUI is trying to retrieve this information too early on some computers possibly when other tasks are running that could be delaying the start (The disk was under load when this occured)

[spida_singh]

delete post, found solution....my bad for not reading

Originally Posted by chudm
hmmm well im doing a full backup to bd-25 i fixed my problem thx to jdobbs post from some time ago!

open the .ini file on the working directory and did this:

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

[jangai]

Hi all,
With backup of Animatrix BD : got a new problem
I had kept only DD EN, DD THD EN, DD FR for audio and all PGS tracks in requested parameters. All seemed well processed into log file.

When I look at my main movies m2ts files with TSmuxR : I see my 3 audio tracks and all PGS like asked to BD_RB

But when I run a BD-RE burned disc with my PS3, I can play only FR audio and FR PGS track... Other operations are not possible...


Problem solved :
Authoring for Animatrix is done just as remote control command for audio track and PGS track have the only choice fixed by pulldown menus...
If I want DD THD EN audio : I just must choose it by pulldown menu with command "popup menu"... It's only an "authoring choice"...

I profit from this post to thanks jdobbs again for this amazing piece of software...

[jdobbs]

@ JDobbs
Just had the GUI issue, no hWnd returned. error
(first time ive ever had this issue)

It happened when the encode finished the first pass and was starting the second but displayed before the encode had started and the x264 window had no information to return.

So maybe the problem could be that the GUI is trying to retrieve this information too early on some computers possibly when other tasks are running that could be delaying the start (The disk was under load when this occured) It tries to retreive the hWnd every 1/10th of a second for 5 seconds after the command has been executed. That's a really long time in computer terms...

[tekmobile]

It tries to retreive the hWnd every 1/10th of a second for 5 seconds after the command has been executed. That's a really long time in computer terms...

Well ive tried and tried to re create the error again by canceling and resuming the 2nd pass under different conditions with no luck
(Using Vista Home Premium SP2, 2GB DDR2 RAM)

[daberti]

trying to encode Black Hawk Down EU version. BD25
.
Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
Failed to retrieve audio, aborted.

More info:.......

[Status]
LABEL=BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30139856760
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30139693056
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.800176838270718
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111

**********

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLURAY\BLACK HAWK DOWN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD_REBUILDER\

****************

Any hint?

Thanks in advance

[chudm]

trying to encode Black Hawk Down EU version. BD25
.
Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
Failed to retrieve audio, aborted.

More info:.......

[Status]
LABEL=BLACK_HAWK_DOWN
VERSION=v0.24.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=30139856760
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=30139693056
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.800176838270718
RESIZE_1080=-1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=11111

**********

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ita;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\BLURAY\BLACK HAWK DOWN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD_REBUILDER\

****************

Any hint?

Thanks in advance

got this problem right know with my matrix bluray, dont know why :eek:

[chudm]

hmmm ill try to put both source and working path on the same partition, cause i see on your ini you have it on differents partitions, and so do i, maybe thats the problem?

[saphire199]

Honestly I haven't a clue. I first heard of that problem when I changed the way the GUI was getting the window handle from the operating system. I could never figure out why it didn't work for some (it never happened on mine), so I just switched back to the original method. Since I did that it appears for work correctly on all systems except yours. I've gone over the code with a fine tooth comb. It is correct. That only leaves the operating system. I put that message in the LOG to show that after trying multiple times through system calls, the operating system would not return the X264 window handle.

Sorry it took so long to get back. I am continuing this as I saw someone else got the same message (GUI error) and I thought what I came up with might help. I also saw your comments with Furious Flea and when new version comes out I will test this on same movie.

OK, since you said my GUI error shouldn't be BDRB, I went to the guide thread and doublechecked everything. The first thing I did was re-download all the tools that go along with BDRB to make sure I had current. (ffdshow, etc) The first thing I noticed was ffdshow version was different - so I went into the version that I had (rev2684) and found out that I had not set any of the settings as laid out in the guide. This was kinda weird, since I have been using BDRB for awhile, I have burned MANY discs, I know I set up the ffdshow when I first started, but yet the settings weren't as I set them. The other thing is that this looks like a newer version than what is on the link (rev2661). I know this happened recently, cuz all my discs have been playing fine after remake. Then I checked the discs working backwards to about a month ago and sure enough, they all say data disc instead of avchd on my PS3. So I changed the version to what was on the link, set the proper settings and tried to redo death race. (As a note, I set the settings on version 2684 and redid death race and did get the GUI error again)On version 2661, I did not get the GUI error, but I did get encode errors. Then I tried Pink Panther 2, full movie, no problem. Then I tried Prestige, movie only, no problem. So I guess, in conclusion I have this:

1. Whats the difference between ffdshow rev 2661 and 2684.
2. Could this (ffdshow rev 2684) be connected in any way to getting GUI error? (cuz when I changed it, I stopped getting the error.
3. Death Race is the most complicated set of files I have ever seen in doing this - it has 72 vids, some MPEG4, some VC-1 and it also has secondary vid within the vid structure.(MPEG 4, 480p instead of 1080) It has AC-3 audio, DTS HD audio and DTS HD XLL audio. Could I be doing something wrong with how I am setting this up cuz it's so complicated?

I know this is a long one and I do appreciate your time and all the hard work you put into this program. I think it is great and I use it ALL the time, it is the only solution I have found that lets me save copies of my discs in the format that I choose (full movie/movie only/BD5,9,25). So thanks for bearing with me.

saphire199

[chudm]

put the working directory and the source path on the same folder but still had the same problem with matrix!

[20:05:08] BD Rebuilder v0.23.02 (beta)
- Source: THE_MATRIX
- Input BD size: 37,10 GB
- Approximate total content: [06:35:52.495]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Resuming from previously started job.
[20:05:11] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:05:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00040]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[20:05:17] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


any suggestion guys?

[chudm]

sorry found the answer by searching on the thread :)

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

that works for me and saphire199

[GaPony]

@chudm

Maybe starting from scratch after making changes would be helpful. FWIW, I made a copy of this movie (Movie Only to BD9) back in March with whatever version was valid on 3-18-09.

What settings are you using? Maybe you're going to have to compromise on your choice of audio in order to get a workable copy, for the time being.

[chudm]

hmmm well im doing a full backup to bd-25 i fixed my problem thx to jdobbs post from some time ago!

open the .ini file on the working directory and did this:

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

[mikamocha]

Pls...the BD Rebuilder is show popup message "This beta has expired. Please upgrade to a newer version"
I try many version ..it still shown this message..
pls advice

thanks

[setarip_old]

@mikamocha

Hi!

Go to the following link that will take you to the first post of this thread and click on the link to download v.2.4.02:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1227473&postcount=1

[daberti]

hmmm well im doing a full backup to bd-25 i fixed my problem thx to jdobbs post from some time ago!

open the .ini file on the working directory and did this:

Go into the INF and add 1 to ENCODE_STEP. If it isn't there, add it and set it to 1.

The INF parameter COMPLETED=n tell BD-RB which files have been completed (from the streams list). ENCODE_STEP=n tells it which step of a single stream has been completed (extract audio=1, pass1=2, pass2=3, reencode audio=4)

Done, with success! :)
Huge thanks :)

EDIT:
Success when target was 8.5GB
Failed when target was BD25. I.e.: BD structure is created but without reencoding the video, yet giving to it a ridiculous file size of 3MB (from a >than 25 source).
After further investigation the problem happened to me only when choosing to resize to 720p.
I.e.: ENCODE_STEP=1 is not needed to complete conversion process if I decide to keep original 1080p resolution

[Furiousflea]

hmmm ill try to put both source and working path on the same partition, cause i see on your ini you have it on differents partitions, and so do i, maybe thats the problem?

This shouldn't cause a problem in any way at all...Unless your referring to a previous post\some other context.

[scissors]

It tries to retreive the hWnd every 1/10th of a second for 5 seconds after the command has been executed. That's a really long time in computer terms...

Hi.

Nice work.

I've had this error for the first time ever also.

Film - any given sunday UK. Film only backup. dvd9.

1)I normally do dvd5, but just ordered some dl discs and it's a long film.

2) It's a 49gig iso and i'm limitted with space, so i ran it through tsmuxer to create a 28gig BD folder (this has worked in the past)

3)The folder is created on and external USB drive (again normally ok)

4) this occurred right after audio and subs streams extracted.

5) video codec vc1 (source m2ts does play in media player)


I've dropped back down to v 2301 as it's the last version i had before current this seems to have got past this point.

Also, in the workfiles folder the vc1 has been demuxed, but the script refers to the m2ts. Is the raw video stream used, or can I delete it - as space is tight?

[tekmobile]

Hi.


Also, in the workfiles folder the vc1 has been demuxed, but the script refers to the m2ts. Is the raw video stream used, or can I delete it - as space is tight?

You can delete it its only used for sizing calculations

[chudm]

Done, with success! :)
Huge thanks :)

EDIT:
Success when target was 8.5GB
Failed when target was BD25. I.e.: BD structure is created but without reencoding the video, yet giving to it a ridiculous file size of 3MB (from a >than 25 source).
After further investigation the problem happened to me only when choosing to resize to 720p.
I.e.: ENCODE_STEP=1 is not needed to complete conversion process if I decide to keep original 1080p resolution

i will know if mine failed on 2 or 3 hours, im still encoding matrix to bd25 full backup

[chudm]

full backup to bd 25 gbs of matrix done :) 23.1 gbs

[daberti]

full backup to bd 25 gbs of matrix done :) 23.1 gbs

I'm happy for you :) Did you make it at 1080p?

[chudm]

I'm happy for you :) Did you make it at 1080p?

full backup to bd-25 man, no resize, no audio converting, full backup, only deleted french audio & japanesse :D

[chudm]

tested the bd-25 on my ps3 and its working perfect :D now ill do 300 :)

[jdobbs]

Hi.

Nice work.

I've had this error for the first time ever also.

Film - any given sunday UK. Film only backup. dvd9.

1)I normally do dvd5, but just ordered some dl discs and it's a long film.

2) It's a 49gig iso and i'm limitted with space, so i ran it through tsmuxer to create a 28gig BD folder (this has worked in the past)

3)The folder is created on and external USB drive (again normally ok)

4) this occurred right after audio and subs streams extracted.

5) video codec vc1 (source m2ts does play in media player)


I've dropped back down to v 2301 as it's the last version i had before current this seems to have got past this point.

Also, in the workfiles folder the vc1 has been demuxed, but the script refers to the m2ts. Is the raw video stream used, or can I delete it - as space is tight? It's random. You probably would have had the same chance of success if you had used the same version again. Also -- you didn't have to restart. The encode was executing, it is only the GUI status that was not being updated. If you ignore it, you are fine. The message is a warning, just so you know that the GUI isn't updating -- if it were fatal, BD-RB would have stopped on its own.

I have no idea what is causing it, but I can say that it is something to do with particular configuration. In hundreds of encodes it has never once happened to me. My suggestion would be to make sure you are using the version of AVISYNTH, FFDSHOW, X264, TSMUXER, and HAALI that are included with BD-RB and/or are recommended at the beginning of this thread. If you do, you'll likely never see the message again.

Dropping back to an old version is not an acceptable solution -- you'll find that v0.23.01 will timeout soon.

For your last question see the next post.

[jdobbs]

You can delete it its only used for sizing calculations Not exactly. That demuxed video is used when the original is small enough to fit without reencoding. So if you remove it without knowing exactly what you're doing you can cause a failure. The next BD-RB version will remove the demuxed video automatically if it isn't used.

[chudm]

Not exactly. That demuxed video is used when the original is small enough to fit without reencoding. So if you remove it without knowing exactly what you're doing you can cause a failure. The next BD-RB version will remove the demuxed video automatically if it isn't used.

the next version of bd-rb its looking better and better man! :D

btw jdobbs, could be possible choose what extras we want to include or not on full backup mode?:rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

the next version of bd-rb its looking better and better man! :D

btw jdobbs, could be possible choose what extras we want to include or not on full backup mode?:rolleyes: Eventually when I add video viewer/selection. But not for a while.

[jdobbs]

Sorry it took so long to get back. I am continuing this as I saw someone else got the same message (GUI error) and I thought what I came up with might help. I also saw your comments with Furious Flea and when new version comes out I will test this on same movie.

OK, since you said my GUI error shouldn't be BDRB, I went to the guide thread and doublechecked everything. The first thing I did was re-download all the tools that go along with BDRB to make sure I had current. (ffdshow, etc) The first thing I noticed was ffdshow version was different - so I went into the version that I had (rev2684) and found out that I had not set any of the settings as laid out in the guide. This was kinda weird, since I have been using BDRB for awhile, I have burned MANY discs, I know I set up the ffdshow when I first started, but yet the settings weren't as I set them. The other thing is that this looks like a newer version than what is on the link (rev2661). I know this happened recently, cuz all my discs have been playing fine after remake. Then I checked the discs working backwards to about a month ago and sure enough, they all say data disc instead of avchd on my PS3. So I changed the version to what was on the link, set the proper settings and tried to redo death race. (As a note, I set the settings on version 2684 and redid death race and did get the GUI error again)On version 2661, I did not get the GUI error, but I did get encode errors. Then I tried Pink Panther 2, full movie, no problem. Then I tried Prestige, movie only, no problem. So I guess, in conclusion I have this:

1. Whats the difference between ffdshow rev 2661 and 2684.
2. Could this (ffdshow rev 2684) be connected in any way to getting GUI error? (cuz when I changed it, I stopped getting the error.
3. Death Race is the most complicated set of files I have ever seen in doing this - it has 72 vids, some MPEG4, some VC-1 and it also has secondary vid within the vid structure.(MPEG 4, 480p instead of 1080) It has AC-3 audio, DTS HD audio and DTS HD XLL audio. Could I be doing something wrong with how I am setting this up cuz it's so complicated?

I know this is a long one and I do appreciate your time and all the hard work you put into this program. I think it is great and I use it ALL the time, it is the only solution I have found that lets me save copies of my discs in the format that I choose (full movie/movie only/BD5,9,25). So thanks for bearing with me.

saphire199 I'm looking at build 2857 as becoming the new recommended standard and am currently testing it. I've found a couple of bugs in 2661 that force some work arounds (especially on small encodes) like the 00254.M2TS on "Day the Earth Stood Still". I'm not sure whether there is a connection yet -- so as of right now I still recommend 2661.

[chudm]

Eventually when I add video viewer/selection. But not for a while.

k :D waiting for the new beta, great job man!

[setarip_old]

@scissors

Hi!It's a 49gig iso and i'm limitted with space, so i ran it through tsmuxer to create a 28gig BD folderForgive my apparent ignorance here but, how do you first convert an original BluRay disc to a 49Gb .ISO image file and then convert the .ISO image file into a 28Gb BluRay folder? And why bother creating the .ISO image file at all?

[Capsbackup]

@scissors

Hi!Forgive my apparent ignorance here but, how do you first convert an original BluRay disc to a 49Gb .ISO image file and then convert the .ISO image file into a 28Gb BluRay folder? And why bother creating the .ISO image file at all?

If using ANYDVD HD, there is not an option, at least that I can find, to rip the movie only. So if you rip the ISO first, then you can strip all extras and audio tracks that you don't want, which is probably where the 28GB BluRay folder comes from.( my guess) :)

[GaPony]

I see your point, but there's no need to bother ripping a movie only to an .iso with AnyDVD. Just let BD-Rebuilder do the "movie only" copy and decide what it needs to get the job done. I'm sure that alot the problems people are having has something to do with them attempting to pre-process the movie, in some form or fashion,before using BD-Rebuilder on it.

I just rip the movie to the HDD with AnyDVD Ripper and run BD-rebuilder and have had great success with nearly 100% of the 225 movies or so, I've done. Granted, I don't do anything fancy like keep the HD audio but my receiver does a good enough job on the AC3 audio.

[jdobbs]

I see your point, but there's no need to bother ripping a movie only to an .iso with AnyDVD. Just let BD-Rebuilder do the "movie only" copy and decide what it needs to get the job done. I'm sure that alot the problems people are having has something to do with them attempting to pre-process the movie, in some form or fashion,before using BD-Rebuilder on it.

I just rip the movie to the HDD with AnyDVD Ripper and run BD-rebuilder and have had great success with nearly 100% of the 225 movies or so, I've done. Granted, I don't do anything fancy like keep the HD audio but my receiver does a good enough job on the AC3 audio.Agree. I've been through this preprocessing goat-rope before with DVD-RB.

Preprocessing = bad
Direct-from-source = good

:)

[jangai]

+1 for a lot of «GUI issue, no hWnd returned» warning message into log...

-Running 'BD-RBV02402.zip' release
-Computer is a 2 x 2,8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon powered
-Computer was not loaded at error time

Hope this helps...

[tekmobile]

Not exactly. That demuxed video is used when the original is small enough to fit without reencoding. So if you remove it without knowing exactly what you're doing you can cause a failure. The next BD-RB version will remove the demuxed video automatically if it isn't used.

Thats what I mean't just bad wording.
The OP was doing the movie down to DVD9 so I highly doubt it would fit uncompressed.

Maybe only demux the raw video if doing BD25 because under normal circumstances the video will always need re-encoding when doing DVD5 or DVD9 unless your doing say just a TV episode from a series

[skylab1]

Does anyone know what this error is error 2202?

[07:44:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:44:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:44:06] RebuildBDFiles() 00076 2202
[08:07:54] - Aborted at user request

it only happen when I try to do full backup, so far this has happen on all BD disc I've tried.
on any version of BD Rebuilder. I never it been able to do a full back yet.

Movie only backup works fine never had it problem.

This error only occur after all the video files are encoded, when BD rebuilder start to rebuilding the
disc file structure then error 2202 occurred.

[GaPony]

I don't have a clue what that error is, but the first thing I'd check is free space, if it only happens with full movies. Just a wild guess. It probably isn't that. :)

[Kakashi Sensei]

@skylab1 - I had that error when i used the 0.24.01 you should upgrade to the current 0.24.02 version and it should fix it. You dont need to restart either, it will rebuild your BD from the previous version.

KS

[jdobbs]

Does anyone know what this error is error 2202?

[07:44:05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [07:44:05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [07:44:06] RebuildBDFiles() 00076 2202
[08:07:54] - Aborted at user request

it only happen when I try to do full backup, so far this has happen on all BD disc I've tried.
on any version of BD Rebuilder. I never it been able to do a full back yet.

Movie only backup works fine never had it problem.

This error only occur after all the video files are encoded, when BD rebuilder start to rebuilding the
disc file structure then error 2202 occurred. It means "path not found" in attempting to copy files from the original disc to the destination. Make sure your source path is still valid.

What version of BD-RB are you using? Always use the most recent.

[jdobbs]

I'm posting this version here in the bug reports bowels rather than in the first post so that it will be only downloaded and used by those actively working bugs. I've made a lot of changes in this version -- and it will likely show a few new bugs. Please post them as you run into them. Be careful with the one-pass encoding... it isn't very accurate yet. It will likely undersize -- but that's purposeful as it is a lot better than an oversize. You can download it from this link. (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/BD-RBV02501.ZIP).

Changes made to this version:
July 8th, 2009 - v0.25.01
- Implemented a one-pass CRF mode. This estimates
the CRF needed for the required size and reencodes
using a single pass. Note that this mode is new
and is experimental -- use for testing only, as it
is possible you may get over/undersizing.
- Added a feature that automatically extracts and
uses all original video streams intact when the
output target is smaller than the selected source.
- Added code to collect and log the TSMUXER error
message when a MUX has failed for some reason.
- Added support for DD+ secondary audio. Now PiP
audio should work (when it is DD+). Note: This
feature is disabled and is in use only for internal
testing.
- Added code to detect and work-around certain types
of demuxing errors.
- Added a hidden switch for help during testing of
the PiP functions. PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 will
enable the PiP processing. If it is set to 0 (the
default value) the secondary video will be ignored.
- Corrected an issue with update of the MPLS when
secondary video tracks are used.
- Added a "HIGH-SPEED" option to the "SETTINGS/ENCODER
SETTINGS" menu. It is visible/recommended for BD-25
encoding only. The quality on BD-5/9 will suffer
greatly if this option is used (via hidden setting).
When used with one-pass CRF mode on BD-25 it can
result in a very fast yet excellent quality backup
of most discs.
- Added AVISYNTH code to limit audio channels to six
(DD 5.1) when reencoding to AC3. This should stop
reencoding failures on 7.1 sources.
- Regressed the version of AFTEN in order to prevent
hangs on some AVS sources.
- Updated NICAUDIO.DLL to r2.03
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[Kakashi Sensei]

That brilliant, I know its experimental but I can't wait to test out the 1 pass encoding. Thanks :)

[drmih]

@jdobbs

Can you explain the PiP function. I have a disc and with the default the secondary video is omitted and AUD_005 (2nd) AC3+ is also 'X' out. When I add the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 line, the video is included but the audio is still shown as 'X'. Will this be picked up or is there something else to do?

[tekmobile]

@jdobbs

Can you explain the PiP function. I have a disc and with the default the secondary video is omitted and AUD_005 (2nd) AC3+ is also 'X' out. When I add the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 line, the video is included but the audio is still shown as 'X'. Will this be picked up or is there something else to do?

Added support for DD+ secondary audio. Now PiP
audio should work (when it is DD+). Note: This
feature is disabled and is in use only for internal
testing.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Can you explain the PiP function. I have a disc and with the default the secondary video is omitted and AUD_005 (2nd) AC3+ is also 'X' out. When I add the PROCESS_SECONDARY=1 line, the video is included but the audio is still shown as 'X'. Will this be picked up or is there something else to do? I implemented this, but I'm not confident in it yet, so I disabled it just before the post. I didn't want to "stink up the place" with untested code.

[drmih]

Added support for DD+ secondary audio. Now PiP
audio should work (when it is DD+). Note: This
feature is disabled and is in use only for internal
testing.

I was going from the CHANGES.TXT which was with the release rather than the one in the post!

[drmih]

I implemented this, but I'm not confident in it yet, so I disabled it just before the post. I didn't want to "stink up the place" with untested code.

I'd be happy to also test it as I have about 20 discs with PiP which I've put on the back burner waiting for this beta, and have been around here long enough to focus on this one feature, without confusing the mainstream beta reports.

[chudm]

will test this one with batman begins tonight, thx jdobbs!!

[scissors]

@scissors

Hi!Forgive my apparent ignorance here but, how do you first convert an original BluRay disc to a 49Gb .ISO image file and then convert the .ISO image file into a 28Gb BluRay folder? And why bother creating the .ISO image file at all?

I use my ps3 to obtain the iso as I have no blu ray drive for my pc. Google ps3 SAK. I use tsmuxer to create the 28 gig folder. If I had a blu ray writer this would always be my first step to see if the basic streams i want can fit onto a BD.

[scissors]

Agree. I've been through this preprocessing goat-rope before with DVD-RB.

Preprocessing = bad
Direct-from-source = good

:)

Hi. With respect. Where I can, I leave alone. As stated space was tight due to the BR source being 49gig. As stated, dropping back to version 2301 cured the problem.

Although I certainly don't want to critise and i have no knowledge at all i would ask you this.

If I take an ISO and run it through tsmuxer to create a BD structure with only the streams I require, how is that so different to the final stage of BD rebuilder which is using the exact same tool to create it's output.

Isn't that like saying if i was given a 25gig BDRom with a movie created by BD rebuilder on it, I should expect the possiblity of problems should i run it through BD rebuilder to create a BD5 or 9 because the "source" is a processed structure and not an origian BD?

Genuine question.

[jdobbs]

Yes on both counts. BD-RB is beta software -- which by definition means there are bugs. Why multiply that?

The same is true for preprocessed sources. I feel fairly confident that a bug reported on a commercial source is legitimate. But preprocessing doesn't only have to take into consideration the software in use -- but also the decisions made by the person sitting in front of the computer. Powerful software like TSMUXER and others also give the user a large amount of control --resulting in a high probability of problems.

Here's an example: TSMUXER will let you mux a stream into BD format that is completely outside the BD standard.

I have in the past, and always will refuse to respond to bug reports on preprocessed sources. Why? Because in more than 90% of the cases in my experience that involved preprocessed sources -- the preprocessing was the cause of the error, and I spent way too much time crawling down rabbit holes trying to find an error that didn't exist.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't preprocess for whatever reason you want... I just ask that you not report any issues until you try the same reencode on the original source.

[skylab1]

It means "path not found" in attempting to copy files from the original disc to the destination. Make sure your source path is still valid.

What version of BD-RB are you using? Always use the most recent.

Path not found? That's weird, I use slysoft to rip the BD to a HD with plenty of space left on the drive.

I just update to 24.02, but like I stated before, I never been able to do a full backup of any BD with any version of BDrebuilder, always get this same 2202 error at the very end. Again, movie only backup never had problem with any version of BDrebuilder.

I guess I can try the newly released 25.01 when I get home tonight.

Question for you Jdobbs, should I delete the working folder which contain all the encoded files and start the backup from the beginning or should I continue where it have left off?

Thanks

[jdobbs]

Path not found? That's weird, I use slysoft to rip the BD to a HD with plenty of space left on the drive.

I just update to 24.02, but like I stated before, I never been able to do a full backup of any BD with any version of BDrebuilder, always get this same 2202 error at the very end. Again, movie only backup never had problem with any version of BDrebuilder.

I guess I can try the newly released 25.01 when I get home tonight.

Question for you Jdobbs, should I delete the working folder which contain all the encoded files and start the backup from the beginning or should I continue where it have left off?

Thanks I'd trying continuing. BD-RB keeps track of where it was and can pick up where it left off.

[skylab1]

I'd trying continuing. BD-RB keeps track of where it was and can pick up where it left off.

Ok, thanks I try that. I will let you know if the same problem occurred again.

[setarip_old]

@scissorsI use my ps3 to obtain the iso as I have no blu ray drive for my pc.Thanks for clarifying (And, yes, I am aware of "Swiss Army Knife")...

[Bosco82]

I unzipped the new release and i get an error from Avira on BD_Rebuilder.exe TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen - Trojan.

[GaPony]

I unzipped the new release and i get an error from Avira on BD_Rebuilder.exe TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen - Trojan.

There's no virus in the file... and we all got it from the same place.

[chudm]

will test batman begins in highest quality 1 pass in 30 minutes, and will let you know how good it was :)

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Just used v.25.01 to perform a one-pass (experimental), highest quality BD-5 movie-only conversion of an original 13.5Gb (13,900.45MB per BD-RB), 1hour 40minute movie:

1) Resultant BD-RB BluRay "package" was a excessively small 2.27GB

2) (I presume) As a consequence, although foreground images were crisp and fully detailed, backgrounds (such as grey walls) were blocky in spots and occasionally exhibited pixel-shifting

Perhaps the methodology you are using for estimating filesize is too conservative/"safe"...

[chudm]

testing batman begins with new beta, one past, high quality (default), full backup mode, and using the algorythm for better quality!, the encodings fps jumped from 4.9 fps (on the second pass with previous beta) to 9-12 fps in crf mode :D in some hours the backup will be ready and will test it and tell you about the quality :)

[Sharc]

- Implemented a one-pass CRF mode. This estimates
the CRF needed for the required size and reencodes
using a single pass. Note that this mode is new
and is experimental -- use for testing only, as it
is possible you may get over/undersizing...

Great news. Thanks :)

[scissors]

Yes on both counts. BD-RB is beta software -- which by definition means there are bugs. Why multiply that?

The same is true for preprocessed sources. I feel fairly confident that a bug reported on a commercial source is legitimate. But preprocessing doesn't only have to take into consideration the software in use -- but also the decisions made by the person sitting in front of the computer. Powerful software like TSMUXER and others also give the user a large amount of control --resulting in a high probability of problems.

Here's an example: TSMUXER will let you mux a stream into BD format that is completely outside the BD standard.

I have in the past, and always will refuse to respond to bug reports on preprocessed sources. Why? Because in more than 90% of the cases in my experience that involved preprocessed sources -- the preprocessing was the cause of the error, and I spent way too much time crawling down rabbit holes trying to find an error that didn't exist.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't preprocess for whatever reason you want... I just ask that you not report any issues until you try the same reencode on the original source.

fair comment.

[spida_singh]

jdobbs - latest 25.01, just tried a Full backup of Days of Thunder UK Disc, i got an error message stating it was unable to create the working folder. Tried exactly the same on 24.02....it's running fine...no settings are different from each of the versions.

regards

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Just used v.25.01 to perform a one-pass (experimental), highest quality BD-5 movie-only conversion of an original 13.5Gb (13,900.45MB per BD-RB), 1hour 40minute movie:

1) Resultant BD-RB BluRay "package" was a excessively small 2.27GB

2) (I presume) As a consequence, although foreground images were crisp and fully detailed, backgrounds (such as grey walls) were blocky in spots and occasionally exhibited pixel-shifting

Perhaps the methodology you are using for estimating filesize is too conservative/"safe"... I do a 5% sample across the entire movie (96 frames are encoded for every 1920). The sample is then encoded using a one-pass/bitrate method at the required bitrate while creating a stats file. I then go through the stats file and collect the resulting quants. I use the quants to then determine the required CRF value.

I've not experienced anything like you've described. Typically my results are within a 5-10% of what is required.

Any suggestions as to how to make it more accurate are greatfully accepted.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs - latest 25.01, just tried a Full backup of Days of Thunder UK Disc, i got an error message stating it was unable to create the working folder. Tried exactly the same on 24.02....it's running fine...no settings are different from each of the versions.

regards Most of the time when you get that error it is because you are doing something in that folder (like browsing, editing, or viewing) and certain files can't be created, removed, or modified. Try it again.

[PurpleMan]

With the last couple of versions (don't remember starting from which one), every time bd-rb starts a x264 encoding job, some random window that I have running just freezes (stops responding), and no matter what I do it doesn't unfreeze until the x264 job has finished and bd-rb starts the next one.

I don't know whether this is a bd-rb issue or x264 issue. but it sure is annoying :)

By the way, this happens in spite of the fact that x264.exe is running on lowest priority and the application that freezes (different one every time) is not cpu intensive (sometime even notepad freezes if I have it running in the background).

Any idea? :)

[jdobbs]

If things are freezing outside of BD-RB's control -- that sounds like an O/S issue. X264 can and will use 100% of the CPU if allowed -- but if the other app has higher priority that shouldn't happen.

I use other apps all the time (under Vista) while BD-RB/X264 are running and haven't seen anything similar occur.

[MILLZY]

Tried Transformers last night using high speed option and one pass encoding:Also full backup.

[21:30:45] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: TRANSFORMERS_D1_EU
- Input BD size: 42.95 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:17.398]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[21:30:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:30:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [21:30:51] Reencoding: VID_00013 (1 of 2)
- [21:32:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [21:59:27] Reencoding: VID_00010 (2 of 2)
- Analyzing complexity using 5.0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 22.59 for encode.
[01:33:51]PHASE ONE complete
[01:33:51]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [01:33:51] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01:34:51] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[01:34:51]JOB: TRANSFORMERS_D1_EU finished.

The only problem i encountered was the undersizing(better undersized than over sized though)Came out at 16.4GB AND THE QUALITY IS GREAT! WELL DONE.As you can see the difference in the speed WOW.............

[chudm]

finished batman with the high speed option for bd25 pretty fast, cant remember how many hours did it take, but i think it was like 7 or 8 for a fucll backup with the algorythm for better quality, great job jdobbs :D

[sype]

I backed up DEATH RACE using one-pass encoding and high speed option to BD-25.
Everything seems to be ok with the encode, quality is great, just a small undersizing at 19GB I think it was aiming for 22.4GB
It took me 32hours at the weekend to do an encode with 5hours of content, this took about 4hours to do about 4hours of content. FANTASTIC.

[PurpleMan]

If things are freezing outside of BD-RB's control -- that sounds like an O/S issue. X264 can and will use 100% of the CPU if allowed -- but if the other app has higher priority that shouldn't happen.

I use other apps all the time (under Vista) while BD-RB/X264 are running and haven't seen anything similar occur.

I even tried setting the other app's priority to realtime (highest possible), still would not unfreeze until x264 is done.
Again, this happens even for IDLE apps that require no cpu at all, like a running notepad, windows just freezes.

It does, however, seem like the application itself keeps functioning and only the GUI is frozen (which should suggest this is not a cpu resources problem). For example, my download manager's window froze on my last encode, but it was still downloading. and after x264 finished, I could see how it progressed.

Are you sure this has nothing to do with bd-rb or x264?

[Carter]

...using one-pass encoding and high speed option....

since when 1-pass enconding is possible ? it is greyed out

[MILLZY]

since when 1-pass enconding is possible ? it is greyed out

Do you have the latest build v0.25.01 (beta)?

[Carter]

edit ups, sorry: 24.02. but on first page thats the latest version

[chudm]

0.25.02 but in 01 it wasnt available as well

check the previous page man!, i think you are talking about 0.24.01 and 0.24.02, jdobbs released on the 188 page a new beta :D 0.25.01 :devil:

[Carter]

youre absolutely right - :goodpost:
thx

[Sharc]

I tried a 1-pass encode using v0.25.01 (beta). Full disk backup. BD-RB aborted. Here the log:
-----------------------
[08:08:58] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BD_PARFUM
- Input BD size: 36.73 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:19:21.370]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[08:08:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:08:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
- [08:09:06] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 21)
- [08:09:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [08:09:30] Reencoding: VID_00022 (2 of 21)
- [08:10:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00023]
- [08:10:10] Reencoding: VID_00023 (3 of 21)
- [08:10:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00026]
- [08:10:56] Reencoding: VID_00026 (4 of 21)
- [08:11:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00025]
- [08:11:46] Reencoding: VID_00025 (5 of 21)
- [08:12:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [08:12:35] Reencoding: VID_00021 (6 of 21)
- [08:13:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
- [08:13:31] Reencoding: VID_00024 (7 of 21)
- [08:14:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [08:14:35] Reencoding: VID_00007 (8 of 21)
- [08:16:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [08:16:07] Reencoding: VID_00001 (9 of 21)
- [08:17:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019]
- [08:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00019 (10 of 21)
- [08:18:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018]
- [08:18:41] Reencoding: VID_00018 (11 of 21)
- [08:19:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [08:19:54] Reencoding: VID_00004 (12 of 21)
- [08:22:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [08:22:14] Reencoding: VID_00010 (13 of 21)
- [08:24:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [08:24:15] Reencoding: VID_00006 (14 of 21)
- [08:26:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [08:26:27] Reencoding: VID_00020 (15 of 21)
- [08:27:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [08:28:01] Reencoding: VID_00009 (16 of 21)
- [08:30:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [08:30:27] Reencoding: VID_00017 (17 of 21)
- [08:32:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [08:32:10] Reencoding: VID_00008 (18 of 21)
- [08:34:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [08:34:47] Reencoding: VID_00016 (19 of 21)
- [08:36:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014]
- [08:37:47] Reencoding: VID_00014 (20 of 21)
- [08:51:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[08:51:44] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I'll try another one.

[chudm]

hey Sharc, are you sure to do a 1 pass to bd9? i think jdobbs recommended not to do this, i think he said that ill be good for bd25, but im not 100% sure

[Kakashi Sensei]

Just a quick question if anyone had issues with animated (japanese anime) movies coming out REALLY undersized. I did a movie only Backup of one and the encode/build was fine (did not use 1 pass) but the final result was a 11.5 GB file(original BD was 44GB)!!!! Just curious if this is b/c its animation that the bit rate worked fine at a low file size.

KS

[chudm]

Just a quick question if anyone had issues with animated (japanese anime) movies coming out REALLY undersized. I did a movie only Backup of one and the encode/build was fine (did not use 1 pass) but the final result was a 11.5 GB file(original BD was 44GB)!!!! Just curious if this is b/c its animation that the bit rate worked fine at a low file size.

KS

hmmm i had seen rips around from animated movies around 2 gbs for the whole movie (Around 100 minutes) and the quality at 720p is great :D

[jdobbs]

hey Sharc, are you sure to do a 1 pass to bd9? i think jdobbs recommended not to do this, i think he said that ill be good for bd25, but im not 100% sure One-pass is ok for BD-9 -- but I'd recommend against using the high-speed encoding setting. It disappears from the menu for BD-9, but you can still force it in the INI.

[jdobbs]

I tried a 1-pass encode using v0.25.01 (beta). Full disk backup. BD-RB aborted. Here the log:
-----------------------
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[08:51:44] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I'll try another one. Unexpected byte? Hmm... looks like that's the TSMUXER error. Don't think I've seen that one. :confused:

[Tongariro]

jdobbs

I was trying to shrink "forgetting Sara marshal".
At first i was doing it with 23.02 and then tried again with 24.02.

The process was finish successfully.
The result at first glans looks Good the menu and the movie.
But there is an extended version for this movie that isn't working at all on all player and on my PC (using powerDvd 8).
Choosing the extended version result in black screen player get stuck.

I tried to investigate and i found the the MPLS in this move is really confusing, i couldn't find the two MPLS's that contained the the two movies , the regular and the extended version and it looks like most of the MT2S file are part for the movie.I though the problem is because i set MIN_MT2S_SIZE=400 that BD-RB didn't process some movie file, there fore create mismatch on the audio/PGS for the movie part.
I tries to reduce it to 1 (0 didn't work because there ate very small file that the BD-rb cant process and i get en error) and the same result.

I also notice (using bd-rb 24.02) that there are secondary video which probably suggested that this move has PIP??

AT the end the problem is that the extended version for this movie isn't working after process (i check the original and it is working properly).

Any idea why??

[jdobbs]

jdobbs

I was trying to shrink "forgetting Sara marshal".
At first i was doing it with 23.02 and then tried again with 24.02.

The process was finish successfully.
The result at first glans looks Good the menu and the movie.
But there is an extended version for this movie that isn't working at all on all player and on my PC (using powerDvd 8).
Choosing the extended version result in black screen player get stuck.

I tried to investigate and i found the the MPLS in this move is really confusing, i couldn't find the two MPLS's that contained the the two movies , the regular and the extended version and it looks like most of the MT2S file are part for the movie.I though the problem is because i set MIN_MT2S_SIZE=400 that BD-RB didn't process some movie file, there fore create mismatch on the audio/PGS for the movie part.
I tries to reduce it to 1 (0 didn't work because there ate very small file that the BD-rb cant process and i get en error) and the same result.

I also notice (using bd-rb 24.02) that there are secondary video which probably suggested that this move has PIP??

AT the end the problem is that the extended version for this movie isn't working after process (i check the original and it is working properly).

Any idea why?? Did you try to do the movie from scratch with 0.25.1? I ask because I added some code that should reduce the likelihood of a stream that fails.

Setting the MIN size shouldn't have the affect you mentioned, because any smaller stream that is a component within a larger stream that is being encoded will not be excluded from encoding (no matter what MIN setting you choose).

[Tongariro]

Did you try to do the movie from scratch with 0.25.1? I ask because I added some code that should reduce the likelihood of a stream that fails.

Setting the MIN size shouldn't have the affect you mentioned, because any smaller stream that is a component within a larger stream that is being encoded will not be excluded from encoding (no matter what MIN setting you choose).



I will do it today.
i will let you now in few hours.

(I will also do this in the new fast process)

Thanks

[drmih]

Slightly off-topic but hopefully of interest. I just got a LG BD370 and it has full disc capability on bd-5/bd-9/bd-25 (everything my Sony 550 plays it does). On top of that it will play most media types (including high res mkvs) off disc or USB.

I have put more details in the thread about compatible players.

[Sharc]

I get the same error (post 3782) for another disk as well ... when it tries to extract the audio from the main feature. No problems with the audio of the Extras.
I'll now try extracting directly with tsMuxeRGUI to see if I run into the same problem.

Added: No problem with manual audio extraction using tsMuxerGUI.

Added2: I found that it is the subtitle .pgs (PGS_001 German) which causes the problem with BD-RB v0.25.01(beta).
It demuxes fine when doing it manually with tsMuxer

[chudm]

will begin to do a full backup with transformers doing the high speed option for bd-25 and the algorythm for better quality will let you know about how long does it takes and about the quality later tonight :D or maybe this afternoon? :D cause now its fast! thx jdobbs!

[MILLZY]

Slightly off-topic but hopefully of interest. I just got a LG BD370 and it has full disc capability on bd-5/bd-9/bd-25 (everything my Sony 550 plays it does). On top of that it will play most media types (including high res mkvs) off disc or USB.

I have put more details in the thread about compatible players.

Just had a look at that player looks good for £150 cheers m8.......

[worknstiff]

Hi Everyone, I want to put out kudows to JDobbs for this most excellent program and will be trying out the latest build 25.02 later today. I really enjoy keeping up with this thread and seeing this work-in-progress as it moves along. I only have one problem that I am dealing with. I usually have been doing movie only BD-9 bkups with AC3 audio because I only want the DVD+R DL space used for the PQ. On the few times I have tried full bkup it plays fine on PWDVD but not on my SAP (DMP-BD30). I have tried all the different compatability fixes (AVCHD Patcher & Certificate folder +/-) but nothing seems to make a playable BD structure. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

[worknstiff]

Perhaps I just need a better SAP

[chudm]

Hi Everyone, I want to put out kudows to JDobbs for this most excellent program and will be trying out the latest build 25.02 later today. I really enjoy keeping up with this thread and seeing this work-in-progress as it moves along. I only have one problem that I am dealing with. I usually have been doing movie only BD-9 bkups with AC3 audio because I only want the DVD+R DL space used for the PQ. On the few times I have tried full bkup it plays fine on PWDVD but not on my SAP (DMP-BD30). I have tried all the different compatability fixes (AVCHD Patcher & Certificate folder +/-) but nothing seems to make a playable BD structure. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

are you doing the discs with the movie only option? some players (like ps3) doesnt work with menu on bd5 bd9, as far as i know! :)

[chudm]

jdobbs i had a problem with transformers, when i tried to do a custom size (23xxx mbs) bd 25 output, x264.exe stop working:

[14:26:39] Reencoding: VID_00013 (1 of 5)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[14:26:49] - Failed video encode, aborted

then i choose bd-25 output and its working good:
[14:27:05] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:27:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
- [14:27:10] Reencoding: VID_00013 (1 of 5)

[PurpleMan]

jdobbs,

I sometimes have a disc which is already a bd-25, so no need to compress it. However, I want to add custom subs to it (to replace one of the existing tracks).

What I do is use tsmuxer to replace an unwanted substream with my own srt file (which is then encoded to PGS when I mux), keeping the number of streams the same.

Then, I replace the muxed m2ts with the original one on the disc, and edit the clipinf file with "clipinf editor" to fix header/length if necessary.

This works 99% of times. The other 1%, powerdvd won't play the movie (plays the disc, just not the movie). The workaround I found for this is to let BD-RB do it's magic on the disc, and since it doesn't require any reencoding, bd-rb just demuxes and remuxes. I replace one of the demuxed PGS's with my custom ones before it gets to the rebuild process.

Then it DOES work. So I was wondering, what does BD-RB do to the clipinf file that I'm missing when doing it manually?

I know this is kinda offtopic, so thanks in advance! :)

[worknstiff]

are you doing the discs with the movie only option? some players (like ps3) doesnt work with menu on bd5 bd9, as far as i know! :)
@ chudm
It is a full bkup, have no probs with movie only.

[DIVX2009]

try encode wvc1 and m2ts is blank video ....why ???????? is not possible to fix wvc1 encoding ... wvc1 is from another planet???????????????/

[chudm]

@ chudm
It is a full bkup, have no probs with movie only.

so its seems that your player (like ps3) wont play full backup to bd5 or bd9!

[worknstiff]

yes, guess I will have to spring for new player.

[chudm]

maybe or buying a bluray writer and some bd-re/bd-r :)

[worknstiff]

It will defeat the purpose of copying a disk if I can't resize the content on it, I want to compress it or whats the use. LOL

[worknstiff]

The funny thing is that the only movies I want to keep the full disk on have very little special features or xtra content.I only want full disk because of the menu selections.

[chudm]

yeah i know what you meant, but maybe you should look for another player! cause it seems that one you have doesnt work with any "full backup" on bd5/bd9

[chudm]

about doing transformers full backup to bd-25, with the algorythm for better quality, and high speed mode for bd-25, it has passed 50 minutes, and it says eta: 2:20, so less than 4 hours to rip a full bluray :D

[jdobbs]

I get the same error (post 3782) for another disk as well ... when it tries to extract the audio from the main feature. No problems with the audio of the Extras.
I'll now try extracting directly with tsMuxeRGUI to see if I run into the same problem.

Added: No problem with manual audio extraction using tsMuxerGUI.

Added2: I found that it is the subtitle .pgs (PGS_001 German) which causes the problem with BD-RB v0.25.01(beta).
It demuxes fine when doing it manually with tsMuxer Can you look at the .meta file and see what is different?

[jdobbs]

try encode wvc1 and m2ts is blank video ....why ???????? is not possible to fix wvc1 encoding ... wvc1 is from another planet???????????????/ There is no known directshow codec for the PC that decodes VC-1 that is field-based interlaced. I would assume that's what you're dicussing.

[jdobbs]

yes, guess I will have to spring for new player. A good choice would be a Sony BDP S360... it handles all formats, is inexpensive, and is profile 2.0 compatible. JMHO

(I just got one to replace my old BDP S301 which didn't handle BD-Live or PiP)

[DIVX2009]

ok but i encode wvc1 whit ripbot264 and i have no problem ...but i need full backup..

[jdobbs]

ok but i encode wvc1 whit ripbot264 and i have no problem ...but i need full backup.. You can encode VC-1 through BD-RB also -- just not those rare streams that are field based. I'd be surprised if that problem M2TS could be backed up with RipBot either, unless it happened to be frame-served through Neuron2's software.

If you back-up to BD-25, the track will be copied instead of blanked and it will be present on the backup. You just can't do that to BD-5/9 because the orignal bitrate is too high.

[Sharc]

Can you look at the .meta file and see what is different?
.meta from BD-RB:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=deu,mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4353, lang=eng,mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=deu,mplsFile=00001

.meta from tsMuxer:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4354, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4355, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4356, lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=deu

[tekmobile]

.meta from BD-RB:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=deu,mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4353, lang=eng,mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=deu,mplsFile=00001

.meta from tsMuxer:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4354, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4355, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4356, lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=deu

I see you are trying to downsize to 720p have you tried keeping it at 1080p in BD-RB to see if its the downsizing causing the issue

[jdobbs]

.meta from BD-RB:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=deu,mplsFile=00001
A_DTS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4353, lang=eng,mplsFile=00001
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD MOVIES\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS",bottom-offset=0,font-border=0,text-align=center,video-width=1280,video-height=720,fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=deu,mplsFile=00001

.meta from tsMuxer:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4352, lang=deu
A_DTS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4353, lang=eng
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4354, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4355, lang=deu
#A_AC3, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts", track=4356, lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "F:\BD Movies\BD PARFUM\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts",bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=1920,video-height=1080,fps=23.976, track=4608, lang=deu Hmmm.... I guess it would likely be either the "MPLSFile-00001" reference or the "down-to-dts". I can't imagine why, though.

[Sharc]

I see you are trying to downsize to 720p have you tried keeping it at 1080p in BD-RB to see if its the downsizing causing the issue
Yep! If I don't downsize the extraction runs smoothly!

[chudm]

btw guys, vc-1 encoding its pretty slow right? cause last night i did batman begins (vc-1) on high speed bd-25 mode, and im doing transformers (avc) and its pretty fast almost 3 times faster than batman!

[Furiousflea]

btw guys, vc-1 encoding its pretty slow right? cause last night i did batman begins (vc-1) on high speed bd-25 mode, and im doing transformers (avc) and its pretty fast almost 3 times faster than batman!

You mean decoding. BDRB encodes everything to h264. VC1 decoding *should* be faster...in theory generally speaking.

[chudm]

yeap right, decoding :), for me its pretty slow though, avc and mpg2 blurays when are being encoded in BD RB are very fast (0.9-1.1x) but when the source its vc-1 the encoding goes down to 0.3-4.5x

[chudm]

tested transformers and looks great! :D only 3 hours and 45 minutes in full backup mode :D thx jdobbs!

[chudm]

hey guys, had some problems with new beta, after 2 great bd-r rips! was trying to do kung fu panda, again, with bd-25 high speed option, algorythm for better quality, and after 3% had some problems with x264.exe, then a message came saying x264.exe stopped working, dont know why its happening this though, any suggestions?

when tried to do this:

[20:30:56] Reencoding: VID_00021 (22 of 54)

the fps went to 0, and it freezes

[jdobbs]

Have you upgraded your version of X264? If so, that is the issue. The new version of X264 crashes with BD-RB because they have removed some of the command line parameters that are used.

I have modified the next release of BD-RB to be compatible with X264 r1179... but don't try using this new release with any current versions of BD-RB.

[chudm]

i updated the ffdshow, but like 1 hour ago, unistalled and installed again the one at the first page and its working good again :)

[jdobbs]

Yep! If I don't downsize the extraction runs smoothly! Hmmm... I wonder what that could mean? The 720 resize has always worked before.

[jdobbs]

i updated the ffdshow, but like 1 hour ago, unistalled and installed again the one at the first page and its working good again :)As I've said before, please use the versions of software included with BD-RB or recommended/linked on the first page of this thread for any beta testing. Upgrading to the latest seems cool sometimes -- but staying with a version that is proven reliable is cool too.

[Edit] Wow. 11,000 posts exactly when typed this. I obviously have too much time on my hands.

[chudm]

yeah my bad!:( at least its working good now, but transformers and batman begins worked perfect, only with this kung fu panda appeared that error

[jdobbs]

I've been experimenting and I think I've come up with a much better CRF prediction algorithm for one-pass encoding. Hopefully I'll get it more accurate by this weekend. I've also finished working on the DD+ PiP audio and it now works (I tested it on "The Matrix").

[chudm]

I've been experimenting and I think I've come up with a much better CRF prediction algorithm for one-pass encoding. Hopefully I'll get it more accurate by this weekend. I've also finished working on the DD+ PiP audio and it now works (I tested it on "The Matrix").

so, no more problems with pip? in the next release we will get pip always working? :o

or there are others audio for pip? (im not sure sorry :p)

[GaPony]

Nothing is 100% bulletproof... Nothing will "always work", especially when its still in beta. :)

[chudm]

yeah yeah i know :) but i mean... what audio does the pip uses? only dd? and thats the one that wasnt working right? so it should work now almost every pip movie with all the stuff of the bluray? :) thats what i meant

[chudm]

hey guys a friend have an lg bh200, does anyone knows if can read bd-r :)?

[GaPony]

hey guys a friend have an lg bh200, does anyone knows if can read bd-r :)?

Thats a question for this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

[chudm]

Thats a question for this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

thx man :goodpost: :), but thats only for bd5/bd9 i was wondering about full backup on bd-r :)

[chudm]

sorry for the offstopic! i found it on google, (April 08) firmware version # BH02080402F reads bd-r, but firmware from june 08 doesnt allow the player to read bd-r :p

[saphire199]

Tried to do death race again with new beta (25.01) Got this error on clip 59:
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.

Never seen this before, so don't know what to do with it.

saphire199

[chudm]

Tried to do death race again with new beta (25.01) Got this error on clip 59:
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.

Never seen this before, so don't know what to do with it.

saphire199

me neither! and i was thinking to do a backup of death race tomorrow :p, im hoping mine works

[GaPony]

Congratulation jdobbs!

I tried the Fast Encode option for DOGMA (42gb). The High Quality setting to BD25 took aprox 4.5 hrs and the Fast Encode setting took 2hrs 2min. The final size was 21.6gb, so the undersize wasn't very much. The quality difference between the two copies is virtually none and everything works for both copies.

I won't waste space posting the log unless you want to see it.

Thanks for an excellant addition!

[Sharc]

Hmmm... I wonder what that could mean? The 720 resize has always worked before.
Yes, the 720 downsize worked here as well before.

Anyway, here the results of the 1-pass encode (skipping the sups):
- Target size BD-9 (DVD-9) / Full Backup / 720p resize / 2 x ac3 audio / no subs
=> Disk filled to 69% (undersize)
=> crf of main feature = 22.05. So despite the undersize the quality is still good .... very good.
=> crf estimation took 20 minutes which represents a considerable time saving compared to a say 2 hours 1st pass of a standard 2-pass encode

[jdobbs]

yeah yeah i know :) but i mean... what audio does the pip uses? only dd? and thats the one that wasnt working right? so it should work now almost every pip movie with all the stuff of the bluray? :) thats what i meant PiP (secondary audio) also uses a special type of DTS HD, which is not currently supported by BD-RB because TSMUXER cannot mux it.

[Furiousflea]

PiP also uses DTS Express, which is not currently supported by BD-RB, because TSMUXER cannot mux it.

Yep, and most PiP audio tracks are DTS Express. Of my 30 or so blurays with PiP only around 5-6 are AC3+. So he might be waiting abit longer ;)

[chudm]

ohhh i see, i didnt know that guys, thx for the info :)

[dianasta]

Hello,

I'm a new member and thanks for this great program keep the good work going :).

I did the HELLBOY2 with no errors. I use PowerDVD8 and the menu is fine. When I hit play it goes throught the fbi warning and then the PG13 screen, some other screen and then is blank nothing it just stays there.

Any ideas what this could be?

Regards.

[chudm]

Hello,

I'm a new member and thanks for this great program keep the good work going :).

I did the HELLBOY2 with no errors. I use PowerDVD8 and the menu is fine. When I hit play it goes throught the fbi warning and then the PG13 screen, some other screen and then is blank nothing it just stays there.

Any ideas what this could be?

Regards.
welcome dianasta :), what version of bd-rb did you used? was full backup to bd5? bd9? or bd25?

[dianasta]

welcome dianasta :), what version of bd-rb did you used? was full backup to bd5? bd9? or bd25?

It was a full backup bd25 and the same issue was with the following bd-rb versions 2401, 2402, 2501

Thanks.

[tekmobile]

It was a full backup bd25 and the same issue was with the following bd-rb versions 2401, 2402, 2501

Thanks.

0.24.01 had a major bug that would cause something like this but it was promptly fixed in 0.24.02 onwards.

Have you tried a fresh encode with the latest version by this I mean from the start without resuming from a previous version

[DarknessUK]

Trying to do the Dr Who BR and get following:

[12:39:16] BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_PLANETOFTHEDEAD
- Input BD size: 29.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:09:28.859]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Was doing down to 25 gig size, any thoughts???

[dianasta]

0.24.01 had a major bug that would cause something like this but it was promptly fixed in 0.24.02 onwards.

Have you tried a fresh encode with the latest version by this I mean from the start without resuming from a previous version

Hi,
Yes I did many times the same issue.

[drmih]

Trying to do the Dr Who BR and get following:

[12:39:16] BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_PLANETOFTHEDEAD
- Input BD size: 29.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:09:28.859]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Was doing down to 25 gig size, any thoughts???

If the original was under 30 Gb and you're perhaps dropping a language or re-encoding one, then it'll just about fit on a bd-r. Is there any reason why your resizing?

[chudm]

Tried to do death race again with new beta (25.01) Got this error on clip 59:
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.

Never seen this before, so don't know what to do with it.

saphire199

hey man im doing death race too, and im at 41% done, and look at the clip u had problems:

[13:48:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00293]
- [13:48:56] Reencoding: VID_00293 (59 of 72)
- [13:51:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00289]
- [13:52:15] Reencoding: VID_00289 (60 of 72)
- [13:55:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00288]
- [13:55:44] Reencoding: VID_00288 (61 of 72)

[isoss]

hoi jdobbs

can you tel me when wil you post de new version of this great program

bud i have still a problem with the films Death Race and the day the earth stood still the menu wil play fine bud de movie wil not play at all it gives al black screen.
do you have a handle on that problem?

[Capsbackup]

@dianasta;
I have backed up the Region A, NTSC version of this movie as well as a few others that experienced the same thing with PowerDVD. However, after burning to BD-RE and testing on my stand alone Sony BDP-BX1, all have played back perfectly. So I believe it is a software/PowerDVD issue and not a BD-RB bug. So, unfortunately, if your only playback is thru the PC, your out of luck. However, if you have a stand alone, try burning to BD-RE and test that method.

[chudm]

man im doing death race, ill give a test on my ps3 later tonight, but i think it should be fine!

[chudm]

@dianasta;
I have backed up the Region A, NTSC version of this movie as well as a few others that experienced the same thing with PowerDVD. However, after burning to BD-RE and testing on my stand alone Sony BDP-BX1, all have played back perfectly. So I believe it is a software/PowerDVD issue and not a BD-RB bug. So, unfortunately, if your only playback is thru the PC, your out of luck. However, if you have a stand alone, try burning to BD-RE and test that method.

or play it with totalmedia theater 3 (it can plays avchd and blurays from hard disc too!) all the bd-rs i had burned works perfect on my pc with that piece of software... but some of those bd-rs (like the foo fighters one, refused to play ok on my ps3)

[chudm]

hoi jdobbs

can you tel me when wil you post de new version of this great program

bud i have still a problem with the films Death Race and the day the earth stood still the menu wil play fine bud de movie wil not play at all it gives al black screen.
do you have a handle on that problem?

with what version was that? v25.01?

[setarip_old]

@dianasta

Hi!

Perhaps a little patience is required ;>}

I've found that with SOME full backups on disc, it can take PowerDVD (I use v.7.3 with NO updates)as long as three minutes to get past the point you've described.

[dianasta]

@dianasta;
I have backed up the Region A, NTSC version of this movie as well as a few others that experienced the same thing with PowerDVD. However, after burning to BD-RE and testing on my stand alone Sony BDP-BX1, all have played back perfectly. So I believe it is a software/PowerDVD issue and not a BD-RB bug. So, unfortunately, if your only playback is thru the PC, your out of luck. However, if you have a stand alone, try burning to BD-RE and test that method.

That is interesting.... thanks Capsbackup. I'm wondering what it could be wrong with PowerDVD :)

Regards.

[dianasta]

@dianasta

Hi!

Perhaps a little patience is required ;>}

I've found that with SOME full backups on disc, it can take PowerDVD (I use v.7.3 with NO updates)as long as three minutes to get past the point you've described.

Hi,
After 20 minutes the screen was still blank, in my case....

[Furiousflea]

Using the 0.25.01 beta...doing "The Matrix"...

Can't select the AC3+ track to include in the output, it's got the red cross and double clicking it does nothing? I've set the ini option to enable secondary video track processing?

Cheers,

[jdobbs]

Trying to do the Dr Who BR and get following:

[12:39:16] BD Rebuilder v0.24.02 (beta)
- Source: DRWHO_PLANETOFTHEDEAD
- Input BD size: 29.64 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:09:28.859]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- RESIZE 1080p to 720p enabled
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Was doing down to 25 gig size, any thoughts??? That means the combined size of all the audio and subtitle tracks you have decided to keep do not leave any room for the video. This is one of the dangers you face in attempting to keep too much HD audio, it can be huge. A good bet would be that the disc has LPCM tracks.

[drmih]

Using the 0.25.01 beta...doing "The Matrix"...

Can't select the AC3+ track to include in the output, it's got the red cross and double clicking it does nothing? I've set the ini option to enable secondary video track processing?

Cheers,

I made that mistake - don't go by changes.txt as at the last minute he disabled it, as mentioned in the post where he put the link. I think the version that he mentions working is his internal one which is the next due for release.

[jdobbs]

Using the 0.25.01 beta...doing "The Matrix"...

Can't select the AC3+ track to include in the output, it's got the red cross and double clicking it does nothing? I've set the ini option to enable secondary video track processing?

Cheers,Sorry about that. It is disabled in 0.25.01. I added the note to the posting in the forum -- but forgot to add it to the CHANGES.TXT file. I wanted to do some more testing before releasing it.

[drmih]

That means the combined size of all the audio and subtitle tracks you have decided to keep do not leave any room for the video. This is one of the dangers you face in attempting to keep too much HD audio, it can be huge. A good bet would be that the disc has LPCM tracks.

I'd be suprised as I think the disc contains a 60 mins HD film and a 60 min SD documentary. Given that he's only trying to save 7 GB in 30 GB you'd think it would be okay.

[Mediogre]

@dianasta;
I have backed up the Region A, NTSC version of this movie as well as a few others that experienced the same thing with PowerDVD. However, after burning to BD-RE and testing on my stand alone Sony BDP-BX1, all have played back perfectly. So I believe it is a software/PowerDVD issue and not a BD-RB bug. So, unfortunately, if your only playback is thru the PC, your out of luck. However, if you have a stand alone, try burning to BD-RE and test that method.

I have seen this blank main movie several times in PowerDVD. For one, I burned it to disc and it did play fine on a Sony bdp-s360. However it exhibited the same blank screen when played on a Panasonic dmp-bd60k. So it's not just a PowerDVD issue.

Maybe both PowerDVD and Panasonic have the same bug, but I would think it's more likely that there is a nuance in BD-RB that causes it, especially since it's still in beta. Sorry I can't be more specific.

[Capsbackup]

I have seen this blank main movie several times in PowerDVD. For one, I burned it to disc and it did play fine on a Sony bdp-s360. However it exhibited the same blank screen when played on a Panasonic dmp-bd60k. So it's not just a PowerDVD issue.

Maybe both PowerDVD and Panasonic have the same bug, but I would think it's more likely that there is a nuance in BD-RB that causes it, especially since it's still in beta. Sorry I can't be more specific.

That's good to know, my only experience regarding this issue has been with PowerDVD and my Sony BDP-BX1. I guess I assumed it was not an issue on a stand alone, but it looks like I'm mistaken. Thanks for your input. Maybe more needs to be looked into regarding that, or the other players just are not as compatible as the Sony.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I must be doing something wrong, because this is really mystifying!

I just used v.25.01 to do a "movie-only" conversion of "Good Luck Chuck - Unrated" (U.S.). Instead of the target size of 4581228544 bytes, the final file size was 2289106944 - exactly one-half (to 4 decimal places) the target size!

What's equally mystifying is that, despite the excessive compression, the resultant file (to these admittedly weak old eyes) appears to be quite good - the backgrounds are better on this one (extremely minimal blockiness and pixel-shifting).

This is the .INF file:[Status]
LABEL=GOODLUCKCHUCK
VERSION=v0.25.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=24368818176
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=24368818176
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.187995515864282
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4581228544
NSIZE=1741074432
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

And here's the log:[11:34:38] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: GOODLUCKCHUCK
- Input BD size: 22.70 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:41:18.112]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[11:34:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:34:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:43:38] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 5.0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 31.02 for encode.
[17:32:43]PHASE ONE complete
[17:32:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [17:32:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:34:24] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:34:24]JOB: GOODLUCKCHUCK finished.

And here's the .INI file:[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
CRF_ENCODING=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=4369
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\BD_WORKC\
SOURCE_PATH=E:\GOODLUCKCHUCK\

and finally, the "LastCMD.txt" file"C:\BD_RB2501Test\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\BD_WORKC\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --crf 31.02 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --fps 24000/1001 --aud --vbv-bufsize 14500 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 17500 --filter 0,0 --subme 7 --me umh --ref 3 --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --weightb --trellis 1 --psy-rd 1.0:0.2 --aq-strength 0.8 --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\BD_WORKC\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.MKV.stats" --pass 1 --output "C:\BD_WORKC\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.MKV"

Please advise.

[Furiousflea]

Sorry about that. It is disabled in 0.25.01. I added the note to the posting in the forum -- but forgot to add it to the CHANGES.TXT file. I wanted to do some more testing before releasing it.

Cheers for the heads up :)

[Chiamos]

or play it with totalmedia theater 3 (it can plays avchd and blurays from hard disc too!) all the bd-rs i had burned works perfect on my pc with that piece of software... but some of those bd-rs (like the foo fighters one, refused to play ok on my ps3)

Hi chudm.
I'm really with you there. as TMT 3 does all that and more, and especially a nice plugin to playback BD with VMC. :)

Long time use here with PowerDVD, and 7.3 is the version that still plays fine, but some of those Black screens and other issues just might not occur with TMT 3.;)

[Tongariro]

Did you try to do the movie from scratch with 0.25.1? I ask because I added some code that should reduce the likelihood of a stream that fails.

Setting the MIN size shouldn't have the affect you mentioned, because any smaller stream that is a component within a larger stream that is being encoded will not be excluded from encoding (no matter what MIN setting you choose).

I just finished and its still not working.
I do see the FBI warning and another Text but then every thing freezes.:(

BTW I did it in CRF mode and the size was 16.8G.

Just to remind you the Original movie works the extended version isn't.

:thanks:

[GaPony]

Maybe you should give it a shot, using BDRB's default settings... that may help pinpoint where things went wrong.

[Sharc]

@jdobbs

I must be doing something wrong, because this is really mystifying!

I just used v.25.01 to do a "movie-only" conversion of "Good Luck Chuck - Unrated" (U.S.). Instead of the target size of 4581228544 bytes, the final file size was 2289106944 - exactly one-half (to 4 decimal places) the target size!

Looks to me as if the crf (31.02) has been estimated for a full disk backup rather than movie only. At this high crf the quality has certainly suffered, however as you say it is amazing how much compression x264 can apply and still producing an acceptable result.
Maybe we should wait for jdobb's next release with improved crf estimation algorithm. The exactly one-half target size is an interesting observation though.

[scissors]

Looks to me as if the crf (31.02) has been estimated for a full disk backup rather than movie only. At this high crf the quality has certainly suffered, however as you say it is amazing how much compression x264 can apply and still producing an acceptable result.
Maybe we should wait for jdobb's next release with improved crf estimation algorithm. The exactly one-half target size is an interesting observation though.

I'm experiencing the same - Pearl Harbour. Set for dvd9 67% done. The mkv in the workfiles is 2gig

[isoss]

with what version was that? v25.01?

evrey version till v24.02 the latest version i dont have

[Kakashi Sensei]

Just did a 1 pass quick Encode for BD25 of a custom Empire Strikes back BD I found ;)

came out to 21.6GB - Burning to BD-RE now to check quality.

[Sharc]

BD-RB v0.25.01(beta), 2-pass: When the BD Rebulder window looses focus to another application and should receive focus later, the response is ..... (not responding). The extraction or encoding processes however continue in the background.

[chudm]

Just did a 1 pass quick Encode for BD25 of a custom Empire Strikes back BD I found ;)

came out to 21.6GB - Burning to BD-RE now to check quality.

for me 1 pass quick encode works great :D

[jdobbs]

BD-RB v0.25.01(beta), 2-pass: When the BD Rebulder window looses focus to another application and should receive focus later, the response is ..... (not responding). The extraction or encoding processes however continue in the background.At what point? Encoding? Muxing? Copying files?

[Sharc]

During Encoding. (Not sure if I had the same during extracting as well). It regained focus once a phase (e.g. 1st pass) terminated.

Btw, the extraction of audio and sups with downsizing to 720 work in the current encode. Difference is that the the original audio tracks now are 1 x True_HD and 1 x ac3, while in the previous case which failed the original audio were 2 x DTS-HD (post#3782).

Added:
Finally, I am happy to inform that the encode terminated successfuly - despite of the hickup reported above. All ok.

[daberti]

No way I can get to right results with latest beta if I resize to 720p from 1080p. Calculated bitrate is less than half of what it should be for a 8.5GB disc.

[DarknessUK]

If the original was under 30 Gb and you're perhaps dropping a language or re-encoding one, then it'll just about fit on a bd-r. Is there any reason why your resizing?

Am new to all this and the first few goes I have had, have worked fine. The only changes I made was to drop down to 720P video.

Am not sure how to drop a language - is that selected when I rip or when I use BD R?

[DarknessUK]

That means the combined size of all the audio and subtitle tracks you have decided to keep do not leave any room for the video. This is one of the dangers you face in attempting to keep too much HD audio, it can be huge. A good bet would be that the disc has LPCM tracks.

So when can I drop doundtracks?
Do I have to do it when I rip, or when I use BD R?

[Furiousflea]

So when can I drop doundtracks?
Do I have to do it when I rip, or when I use BD R?

In the main window, it has a list of video\audio streams just double click the audio tracks to alternate between keeping\removing them.

Alternatively, in the options menu just select the languages you want to keep then each time you load a BD folder into BDRB it will automatically put a cross by the ones that aren't in your language and they won't be backed up.

So you rip your FULL disc, then load that into BDRB and the removal happens during the backup.

Then burn the resulting folder.

[picman1]

Hi,

I am a new user of this tool to see if I can create files that will stream to the PS3. I have blu-ray files that are AVC video and 2 tracks one is LPCM 5.1/7.1 and the other is a 5.1 AC3. If I have a Blu-ray structure that has an AVC video will that file get copied over as is? Also, I have a DTS-HD lossless audio track that I want to convert to LPCM for one audio track and also get the AC3 core as the other audio track. Can this tool create a .TS or . M2TS file with the copied AVC video and the LPCM and AC3 aufio tracks?

I tried another tool ripbot but it only does one audio track. Thanks for your help.

[daberti]

One stupid question: 0.25.1 is out yet here at 1st page is still mentioned an older version. Where could I find a link to the most updated version, please and thanks?

[tekmobile]

One stupid question: 0.25.1 is out yet here at 1st page is still mentioned an older version. Where could I find a link to the most updated version, please and thanks?

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[tekmobile]

Hi,

I am a new user of this tool to see if I can create files that will stream to the PS3. I have blu-ray files that are AVC video and 2 tracks one is LPCM 5.1/7.1 and the other is a 5.1 AC3. If I have a Blu-ray structure that has an AVC video will that file get copied over as is? Also, I have a DTS-HD lossless audio track that I want to convert to LPCM for one audio track and also get the AC3 core as the other audio track. Can this tool create a .TS or . M2TS file with the copied AVC video and the LPCM and AC3 aufio tracks?

I tried another tool ripbot but it only does one audio track. Thanks for your help.

It won't convert DTS-HD MA to LPCM

[saphire199]

I don't know if this helps or not, but I tried running death race thru again after last error report (- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.) This time it made it to clip 62 and I got the GUI error. As the GUI error happened right before it started encoding clip 62, I restarted BDRB and did the rest of the movie, no problem. I burned it to BD-RE and it played - but no sound cuz I had set BDRB to keep the HD audio for BD25, which I guess my receiver can't decode. So I tried another run thru BDRB, the whole movie went thru with no problem (changing the one setting re: HD audio). Reason I am letting you know is 1st run got an error, second run got an error, third run (without HD audio) ran thru without a hitch.

Saphire199

[chudm]

I don't know if this helps or not, but I tried running death race thru again after last error report (- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00293.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[21:01:40] - Failed to build structure, aborted.) This time it made it to clip 62 and I got the GUI error. As the GUI error happened right before it started encoding clip 62, I restarted BDRB and did the rest of the movie, no problem. I burned it to BD-RE and it played - but no sound cuz I had set BDRB to keep the HD audio for BD25, which I guess my receiver can't decode. So I tried another run thru BDRB, the whole movie went thru with no problem (changing the one setting re: HD audio). Reason I am letting you know is 1st run got an error, second run got an error, third run (without HD audio) ran thru without a hitch.

Saphire199

i did yesterday death race region a, and keep hd audio, all extras ... and never got an error man, did it with high speed encoding for bd-25, and tellis algorithm for better quality, and was done the encoding of the whole bd in 5 hours :)

[Category 5]

Just did G Torino with fast encode to BD25 and it only took 2hr and 20min! It looks good so far. I am now doing a long encode to make a comparison, but from 14 hours to 2.33 hours? WOAH!

Still can't get Step Brothers backed up. What a pain that one is.

[Furiousflea]

One stupid question: 0.25.1 is out yet here at 1st page is still mentioned an older version. Where could I find a link to the most updated version, please and thanks?

It's because 0.25.01 is a test version that potentially has a lot of bugs and jdobbs doesn't want any old goon trying it out. :)

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs and/or anyone who has successfully backed up Die Hard 2 Die Harder to BD-25, keeping DTS HD Master Audio.
I have completed backing up the Die Hard movies to BD-25, full movie, keep HD audio. Disc 1, (Die Hard), disc 3 ( With A Vengeance) and disc 4 ( Live Free or Die Hard), have turned out absolutely perfect, all with DTS HD Master audio kept, and look and sound great. Disc 2, Die Hard 2 Die Harder has been interesting, to say the least.
I have now tried with BD-RBV02302, BD-RBV02402, and BD-RBV02501, and all experience the same results.
The full movie backup, keeping the DTS HD Master Audio, plays only with silence on my Sony BDP-BX1, no audio heard. Also, my receiver only says stereo when the movie plays and there is only silence. When I play the other three movies, the receiver says DTS HD Master, and audio is heard.
So I try a movie only backup to BD-25, and also keep the HD audio, and now it plays normal, audio is heard, and the receiver says DTS HD Master.
Why BD-RB will work in movie only mode but not in full backup for this movie is a mystery.
I have backed up about 25 blu-rays to full movie, BD-25, keeping HD Audio, and never experienced this before.
(The audio plays and is heard on the computer with PowerDVD 7.3 and MPC for the full movie back up, just not on the stand alone.)
Though I can't say for sure this is a bug with BD-RB, the conclusion that a movie only works when a full backup will not does leave a question.

[jdobbs]

Man, trying to predict the size of a CRF encode is tough. I've been trying everything to get an accurate prediction. I gather the quants, I weigh them based on value, I adjust everything based upon complexity information in the stats file...

I just can't seem to get an accurate prediction. It's usually in the neighborhood, but still has occasional "WTF?" results.

[chudm]

Man, trying to predict the size of a CRF encode is tough. I've been trying everything to get an accurate prediction. I gather the quants, I weigh them based on value, I adjust everything based upon complexity information in the stats file...

I just can't seem to get an accurate prediction. It's usually in the neighborhood, but still has occasional "WTF?" results.
i suppose you are right man, i mean a movie wont be 100% of the time full action, so the bitrate required for every scene can change! so if the first minutes of the movie taken to stimate the bitrate or quality needed, have too many actions scenes, then later its a pretty "slow" movie without action scenes, the bitrate will be "low" and the final size will be small, but still the file will have good quality... am i right?

[saphire199]

Furious, you posted this in a thread
"the small m2ts it's because it's only 1 frame long and avisynth won't accept it. You can get around that error by setting the minimum m2ts size to encode at 150mb"

Just wanted to know where you are adjusting this, where do you adjust the minimum m2ts size? And I apologize this is not a bug, but was in this thread to begin with.

saphire199

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Although you've indicated nothing to the contrary regarding my two previous posts, I just thought I'd ask to make certain:

We ARE supposed to be able to use the "One-pass (Experimental") option for "movie-only", aren't we?

[DarknessUK]

In the main window, it has a list of video\audio streams just double click the audio tracks to alternate between keeping\removing them.

Alternatively, in the options menu just select the languages you want to keep then each time you load a BD folder into BDRB it will automatically put a cross by the ones that aren't in your language and they won't be backed up.

So you rip your FULL disc, then load that into BDRB and the removal happens during the backup.

Then burn the resulting folder.

Thanks for the tips.
I went into SETUP and checked that ENGLISH was the only language selkected, and made sure it was the only sub-title there too.

When I look in the STREAM window, it shows 12 sections, titled VID_xxxxxxx and inside each one is an audio section titled AUD_001, AC3, Stereo, English

There is also a subtitle folder under each.

So, I cannot see any HD audio formats in there to un-select.

[Sharc]

Man, trying to predict the size of a CRF encode is tough.....
Confirmed. I have been experimenting myself. Indeed the sensisitivity ("gain") of 'delta file size' vs 'delta crf' can change a lot from source to source. I remember an example where a change in crf from 21.6 to 21.5 stepped up the file size unexpectedly, while for another source a change from 22 to 21 made the file size to increase by few % only.
That's why I think if any prediction method produces something like 80%+ of the target size in reasonable time, we should be happy.

[Sharc]

i suppose you are right man, i mean a movie wont be 100% of the time full action, so the bitrate required for every scene can change! so if the first minutes of the movie taken to stimate the bitrate or quality needed, have too many actions scenes, then later its a pretty "slow" movie without action scenes, the bitrate will be "low" and the final size will be small, but still the file will have good quality... am i right?
Yes, but the 5% of the movie which jdobbs uses as a sample are taken as snippets from the whole movie in order to get a good 'impression' of the character of the movie. This should avoid that just some action or static scenes dominate the crf estimtion. So that's not really an issue I assume. The problem is mainly the very complex and highly non-linear dependency of the file size on the crf (for a given set of encoding parameters)

[MikeyBK]

I haven't been able to use 0.25.01 because Avira is going absolutely ballistic detecting the TR/Crypt.XPACK.Gen trojan, and although it is probably a false positive and poses low risk, it still contiuously comes up with the warning over and over again.... I can't set Avira to ignore it.

Any ideas JD? what could Avira be detecting as suspicious script over and over again?

[zeon]

amazing work jdobbs just like to say congrats 14hours down to 3-4 awesome piece of kit.

[daberti]

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Huge thanks :)

In the change log it is mentioned...
"Added a "HIGH-SPEED" option to the "SETTINGS/ENCODER
SETTINGS" menu. It is visible/recommended for BD-25
encoding only. The quality on BD-5/9 will suffer
greatly if this option is used (via hidden setting).
When used with one-pass CRF mode on BD-25 it can
result in a very fast yet excellent quality backup
of most discs."

Thus, if I understand well: it can be used with or without single pass encoding. Am I right?

[tekmobile]

Huge thanks :)

In the change log it is mentioned...
"Added a "HIGH-SPEED" option to the "SETTINGS/ENCODER
SETTINGS" menu. It is visible/recommended for BD-25
encoding only. The quality on BD-5/9 will suffer
greatly if this option is used (via hidden setting).
When used with one-pass CRF mode on BD-25 it can
result in a very fast yet excellent quality backup
of most discs."

Thus, if I understand well: it can be used with or without single pass encoding. Am I right?

Yes you can use it with or without

I still use the normal 2 pass at high quality

[Sharc]

On BD9 the Extras are encoded with crf in the range of 25 ... 30. While the picture quality is still quite ok for the Extras in my opinion, I noticed sometimes an annoying GOP pumping. It looks as if this pumping can be reduced by reducing ipratio and pbratio, like --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.2.
It's not a bug, but perhaps something to be considered for future BD-RB release. Maybe more tests are needed?

[daberti]

Yes you can use it with or without

I still use the normal 2 pass at high quality

Thanks. Then I could also use (via hidden option) on a 11GB film only backup at 720p, single pass, without any appreciable quality loss (taken normal double-pass 720p encoding as reference). I guess.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Although you've indicated nothing to the contrary regarding my two previous posts, I just thought I'd ask to make certain:

We ARE supposed to be able to use the "One-pass (Experimental") option for "movie-only", aren't we? Yes. It should work with movie-only.

[jdobbs]

On BD9 the Extras are encoded with crf in the range of 25 ... 30. While the picture quality is still quite ok for the Extras in my opinion, I noticed sometimes an annoying GOP pumping. It looks as if this pumping can be reduced by reducing ipratio and pbratio, like --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.2.
It's not a bug, but perhaps something to be considered for future BD-RB release. Maybe more tests are needed? Interesting. I notice that on a recently encoded disc too. A pulsing that matched the GOP timing. I wonder if some recent change in X264 brought that on. I hadn't noticed it before.

[Sharc]

Interesting. I notice that on a recently encoded disc too. A pulsing that matched the GOP timing. I wonder if some recent change in X264 brought that on. I hadn't noticed it before.
I have noticed this before as well. It becomes probably more visible the stronger the applied compression is. It is more visible on flat and quasi-static scenes, like backgrounds or faces during interviews.
The x264 default ipratio and pbratio of 1.3 and 1.4 respectively are perhaps more tailored towards long GOPs like --keyint 250, while blu-ray compliance requests much shorter key intervals which brings along the 1-second pulsing when key frames are surrounded by say 20-30 times stronger compressed P and B frames.

[Furiousflea]

I have noticed this before as well. It becomes probably more visible the stronger the applied compression is. It is more visible on flat and quasi-static scenes, like backgrounds or faces during interviews.
The x264 default ipratio and pbratio of 1.3 and 1.4 respectively are perhaps more tailored towards long GOPs like --keyint 250, while blu-ray compliance requests much shorter key intervals which brings along the 1-second pulsing when key frames are surrounded by say 20-30 times stronger compressed P and B frames.

I've noticed this since the beginning of the first BDRB release...It's also present on some original blurays so....I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[Furiousflea]

Thanks for the tips.
I went into SETUP and checked that ENGLISH was the only language selkected, and made sure it was the only sub-title there too.

When I look in the STREAM window, it shows 12 sections, titled VID_xxxxxxx and inside each one is an audio section titled AUD_001, AC3, Stereo, English

There is also a subtitle folder under each.

So, I cannot see any HD audio formats in there to un-select.

That's because the VID you are looking in isn't the "main movie". Most likely an extra. I've noticed what your talking about on some Universal DVDs (Any given sunday, for example). Where the extras have a about 20-30 audio streams enabled all in 2 channel english AC3. To fix that quickly you can make sure that "only use one track for each language" is selected in SETUP.

Then manually add any extra audio streams that may be needed. Or you could do it the other way round and manually deselect all but the first audio stream in the VID with loads of streams by double clicking each one (takes a while mind) ;)

Haven't noticed any negative side effects on "Any Given Sunday" but can't promise it won't mess things up by doing the above.

[Furiousflea]

Furious, you posted this in a thread
"the small m2ts it's because it's only 1 frame long and avisynth won't accept it. You can get around that error by setting the minimum m2ts size to encode at 150mb"

Just wanted to know where you are adjusting this, where do you adjust the minimum m2ts size? And I apologize this is not a bug, but was in this thread to begin with.

saphire199

You have to add the option to the ini...Have a look in the "Changes.txt" file for information that comes with BDRB. Do a seach for "min_m2ts" and it will explain it.

[Sharc]

Hmmm... I wonder what that could mean? The 720 resize has always worked before.
I tried to find out - for a number of BDs - any systematic reason as to when the a/v (pgs) extraction fails and when it works. I have no clue other than it never fails when I don't resize to 720, and it fails in quite a number of cases (50%?) when I enable the 720 resize, independent of the audio format and of the pgs language. Apparently it's related to the resizing of the subtitles, because when I deselect the sups everything works as expected. Weird.

Added: The same problem exists with v24.02 as well.

[laserfan]

I have noticed this before as well. It becomes probably more visible the stronger the applied compression is. It is more visible on flat and quasi-static scenes, like backgrounds or faces during interviews.
The x264 default ipratio and pbratio of 1.3 and 1.4 respectively are perhaps more tailored towards long GOPs like --keyint 250, while blu-ray compliance requests much shorter key intervals which brings along the 1-second pulsing when key frames are surrounded by say 20-30 times stronger compressed P and B frames.FWIW member Sagittaire's recommendation was to use --ipratio 1.10 --pbratio 1.10 with keyint 24.

I'm not sure I've seen any discussion of this specific question before (settings to limit "pulsing" of I frames for 24 keyint) so if anyone knows a link to confirm/deny specific settings by all means post!

[ds9delta]

Hey jdobbs Let Me Start By Saying It's Been A While Since I Posted But Only Becuase I've Had No Bugs To Report.... Until Now... I've Been Attempting To Encode The Mummy R0 (Australia) And Have Found That The Original Has About 68 Subtitle Tracks With Track 60 Being The English Translation Of Ancient Egyptian When The Mummy Speaks And No Matter Which Version (I've Been Through Them All To 25.01) I Load It With They All Claim There Is Only 32 Subtitle Tracks As A Result I Can't Get The Mummy's Speech Subtitles! Please Help! And By The Way Great Prog! As Soon As Is Complete I Will Totally Buy!!! (REGARDLESS OF PRICE!!!!):thanks::)

[MikeyBK]

Just a follow-up about the false positives with Avira anti-virus....
they have not updated to remove this warning and it basically renders BD-RB 0.25.01 useless because it comes up with the warning almost continuously...
Thus I have dropped Avira and now am using AVG, and I am glad to report that I now can access 0.25.01. Am eager to test the one-pass encoding option...thanks

[Category 5]

Haven't tried one pass, but the fast encoding for BD25 seems to have produced a fantastic result compared to an identical encode using HQ - 2.5 hours compared to 14 or so. My obsessive compulsive mind seems to think the long encode looks better, but I can't find quantifiable evidence. in other words, I need some other people to agree that there is not really a noticable difference before I'll give up letting my CPU churn all night.

I can't imagine what's going on to make such a difference though. It's just mind boggling! Jdobbs is the man!

[GaPony]

Haven't tried one pass, but the fast encoding for BD25 seems to have produced a fantastic result compared to an identical encode using HQ - 2.5 hours compared to 14 or so. My obsessive compulsive mind seems to think the long encode looks better, but I can't find quantifiable evidence. in other words, I need some other people to agree that there is not really a noticable difference before I'll give up letting my CPU churn all night.

I can't imagine what's going on to make such a difference though. It's just mind boggling! Jdobbs is the man!

No difference that I can tell.

[chudm]

No difference that I can tell.

me neither! maybe on very long blurays? more than 4 or 5 hours?

[jdobbs]

Haven't tried one pass, but the fast encoding for BD25 seems to have produced a fantastic result compared to an identical encode using HQ - 2.5 hours compared to 14 or so. My obsessive compulsive mind seems to think the long encode looks better, but I can't find quantifiable evidence. in other words, I need some other people to agree that there is not really a noticable difference before I'll give up letting my CPU churn all night.

I can't imagine what's going on to make such a difference though. It's just mind boggling! Jdobbs is the man! The truth is that for a BD-25, all the exotic settings just sometimes aren't needed. So using simple settings can make it go a lot faster. The credit all goes to X264... its an incredible piece of software.

[MikeyBK]

I think that for Quad Cores like my Q9550, the one-pass encoding doesn't really give me enough of a time gain to warrant using it. Knowing took 5 hours using 2-pass, while it took around 4 hours for the one-pass encoding I just did on the same Bluray.

I'm gathering that others with quad-cores like the Core2quads or i7s are experiencing the same results?
Thanks though for the luxury of that option anyways...

BTW... Knowing movie-only 31.58 GB to BD-9 using BD-RB 0.24.02 set @ High Quality looks absolutely 'Incredible!!'

And yes, I do give a lot of the credit to x264, but I also have to give you kudos for putting together this superb software...
:thanks:

[daberti]

The truth is that for a BD-25, all the exotic settings just sometimes aren't needed. So using simple settings can make it go a lot faster. The credit all goes to X264... its an incredible piece of software.

jdobbs, thanks for your incredible software.
Yet so far I've never managed to get a properly encoded 780p.
It fails on audio extraction or if I use ENCODE_STEP=1 it says the video is kept as it is and does not encode at all.
Where is it the trick?

[Kakashi Sensei]

Well i have a core2Quad, prolly on the low end. Q8200 2.33 GHz and a full 2 pass backup can take me upto 14-20hrs to complete. The Quick Encode for BD-25 takes 4.5 hrs. So i'll say that this feature is very much appreciated and puts out great resaults.

KS

[GaPony]

I think that for Quad Cores like my Q9550, the one-pass encoding doesn't really give me enough of a time gain to warrant using it. Knowing took 5 hours using 2-pass, while it took around 4 hours for the one-pass encoding I just did on the same Bluray.



You really see the speed improvement when copying to BD25 media and use the "High Speed Option for BD25". For me, it been around a 60% (5 hrs to 2 hrs) improvement while retaining excellant PQ.

Still... even a 20% speed improvement is pretty substantial, if the PQ is comparable. The one thing I have found is that the single pass tends to undersize more on BD9 that on BD25, but it is just experimental at the moment.

[drmih]

PiP (secondary audio) also uses a special type of DTS HD, which is not currently supported by BD-RB because TSMUXER cannot mux it.

It may sound a silly question but if the audio could be extracted is there any reason why it couldn't be re-encoded to ac3, as clearly that is applicable for the PiP audio, or would is it also be an issue for the free audio encoders to process DTS HD? It would just seem more likely that the audio could be extracted even if it couldn't be muxed back in, in its original format.

[Furiousflea]

It may sound a silly question but if the audio could be extracted is there any reason why it couldn't be re-encoded to ac3, as clearly that is applicable for the PiP audio, or would is it also be an issue for the free audio encoders to process DTS HD? It would just seem more likely that the audio could be extracted even if it couldn't be muxed back in, in its original format.

Still an issue...

PiP uses either DTS Express or AC3+...No known free encoder available for either. Yes there is a free AC3 encoder (aften)...but not AC3+

[chudm]

hey guys i tried kung fu panda on my ps3 with the last beta and worked great! but on a panasonic bd30 of a friend all the extras and menu worked great, but the movie wont start, i can see only a black screen!

[GaPony]

Not all players are created equal...

The thread on Player Compatibility says something about disabling an option to disable 24p (fps?) playback on the Panasonic players at least on BD9/Bd5 copies.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

I just completed "Hell Boy II" (colorful, relatively high action), "One-pass (Experimental"), BD-9, FULL movie - the result was a final size of 5.12GB (Original disc is 41.7Gb).

I'm beginning to think there's room in your computations, for whatever reason(s), for at least 60% higher videostream size (Via CRF adjustment?)

Your thoughts?

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, thanks for your incredible software.
Yet so far I've never managed to get a properly encoded 780p.
It fails on audio extraction or if I use ENCODE_STEP=1 it says the video is kept as it is and does not encode at all.
Where is it the trick???? Of course it will. I don't think you understand what that does.... since you set it to 1 without successfully extracting the audio --- you are telling BD-RB that the audio takes up absolutely no space. That's why it extracts -- because it thinks the video comprises the entirety of what you are using to build (like selecting no audio). Your calcs will be all off from there on out -- and you'll probably get an error when trying to remux.

Please everyone, don't mess with the ENCODE_STEP setting. The settings in the INF file are for BD-RB internal use only -- and shouldn't be modified unless you fully understand the impact.

[jdobbs]

You really see the speed improvement when copying to BD25 media and use the "High Speed Option for BD25". For me, it been around a 60% (5 hrs to 2 hrs) improvement while retaining excellant PQ.

Still... even a 20% speed improvement is pretty substantial, if the PQ is comparable. The one thing I have found is that the single pass tends to undersize more on BD9 that on BD25, but it is just experimental at the moment. Just as a point of reference: If using "High Speed" you are much better off using the prediction. Theoretically you should get a much better picture with a one pass CRF than you would with a one-pass bitrate encode (which is what you get with "High Speed Option for BD25" without doing prediction).

[mech61]

Just tried Underworld AU full disc to DVD9 keeping only eng language and subs ive got audio on the main menu and extras but not in the movie. Picture quality is brilliant just no audio.

[09:18:38] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: 67428307_VOLUME_ID
- Input BD size: 43.31 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:42:48.117]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[09:18:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09:18:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
- [09:18:39] Reencoding: VID_00022 (1 of 17)
- [09:18:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [09:18:51] Reencoding: VID_00021 (2 of 17)
- [09:19:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [09:19:01] Reencoding: VID_00000 (3 of 17)
- [09:19:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [09:19:18] Reencoding: VID_00081 (4 of 17)
- [09:19:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00102]
- [09:19:53] Reencoding: VID_00102 (5 of 17)
- [09:20:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [09:20:43] Reencoding: VID_00092 (6 of 17)
- [09:21:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00103]
- [09:21:40] Reencoding: VID_00103 (7 of 17)
- [09:22:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00101]
- [09:23:04] Reencoding: VID_00101 (8 of 17)
- [09:24:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00100]
- [09:24:26] Reencoding: VID_00100 (9 of 17)
- [09:29:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00095]
- [09:29:47] Reencoding: VID_00095 (10 of 17)
- [09:34:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00098]
- [09:34:57] Reencoding: VID_00098 (11 of 17)
- [09:40:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00097]
- [09:40:43] Reencoding: VID_00097 (12 of 17)
- [09:46:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00096]
- [09:47:12] Reencoding: VID_00096 (13 of 17)
- [09:53:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00094]
- [09:54:05] Reencoding: VID_00094 (14 of 17)
- [10:00:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00099]
- [10:01:06] Reencoding: VID_00099 (15 of 17)
- [10:10:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00093]
- [10:11:30] Reencoding: VID_00093 (16 of 17)
- [10:35:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [10:56:01] Reencoding: VID_00011 (17 of 17)
[16:34:08]PHASE ONE complete
[16:34:08]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:34:08] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:34:15] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:34:15]JOB: 67428307_VOLUME_ID finished.

[Status]
LABEL=67428307_VOLUME_ID
VERSION=v0.25.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=46499405424
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=46428383232
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.177116095706134
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=17
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00022]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=2222107
NSIZE=1560576
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=2761855
NSIZE=1677312
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=4457272
NSIZE=4896768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00081]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=20938081
NSIZE=3557376
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00102]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=22383212
NSIZE=32372736
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00092]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=31505604
NSIZE=31653888
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00103]
AUDIO=111111
PGS=100000
M2TS_TARGET=38176278
NSIZE=97646592
FLINK=-1
MLINK=-1
[00101]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=55666937
NSIZE=52291584
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00100]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=78429419
RATE=811
NSIZE=79134720
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00095]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=85378678
RATE=797
NSIZE=86218752
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00098]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=92692749
RATE=797
NSIZE=93511680
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00097]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=101085756
RATE=801
NSIZE=102027264
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00096]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=108414309
RATE=801
NSIZE=109363200
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00094]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=110963026
RATE=786
NSIZE=112158720
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00099]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=160268979
RATE=760
NSIZE=162023424
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00093]
AUDIO=1
PGS=10
M2TS_TARGET=405781469
RATE=791
NSIZE=409780224
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=100000
M2TS_TARGET=6843339152
RATE=5619
NSIZE=6672801792
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

FWIW member Sagittaire's recommendation was to use --ipratio 1.10 --pbratio 1.10 with keyint 24.

I'm not sure I've seen any discussion of this specific question before (settings to limit "pulsing" of I frames for 24 keyint) so if anyone knows a link to confirm/deny specific settings by all means post! Good idea. I'll do that.

[Sharc]

Re: Pulsing / --ipratio / --pbratio
Some discussions about the subject I found here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1251167#post1251167
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1251177#post1251177
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1288669#post1288669

Sharktooth's blu-ray profile for MeGUI also uses --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 for exactly that reason (I did'nt find the post where Sharktooth justified it).

[daberti]

??? Of course it will. I don't think you understand what that does.... since you set it to 1 without successfully extracting the audio --- you are telling BD-RB that the audio takes up absolutely no space. That's why it extracts -- because it thinks the video comprises the entirety of what you are using to build (like selecting no audio). Your calcs will be all off from there on out -- and you'll probably get an error when trying to remux.

Please everyone, don't mess with the ENCODE_STEP setting. The settings in the INF file are for BD-RB internal use only -- and shouldn't be modified unless you fully understand the impact.

jdobbs, probably you missed an early post of mine.
Without ENCODE_STEP and with downsizing to 720p set the proggie ALWAYS doesn't go further than this
[09.46.31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09.46.31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[09.46.43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

In other words: with or without ENCODE_STEP I've never got a successful 720p encode.
1080p goes smoothly, though.

Help appreciated
Thanks

[drmih]

[QUOTE=mech61;1305154]Just tried Underworld AU full disc to DVD9 keeping only eng language and subs ive got audio on the main menu and extras but not in the movie. Picture quality is brilliant just no audio.



How are you playing this? The audio can be there but not picked up by your pc player / standalone - there have been issues with some discs with PiP / bd-9 / Sony standalones. Try playing the movie m2ts (the largest file in STREAM) in media player classic to check whether the audio is actually there.

[drmih]

Still an issue...

PiP uses either DTS Express or AC3+...No known free encoder available for either. Yes there is a free AC3 encoder (aften)...but not AC3+

Assuming that you have a commercial product installed (i.e. TMT3) which does seem to handle them, is a solution available but not implemented to keep bd-rb totally free? This seems similar to the issue with the vc-1 streams where someone developed a work around using TMT or Powerdvd to handle the problem files.

[Chefkoch_ico]

hey guys i tried kung fu panda on my ps3 with the last beta and worked great! but on a panasonic bd30 of a friend all the extras and menu worked great, but the movie wont start, i can see only a black screen!

Thats the same problem in PowerDVD. Maybe its connected somehow to the PiP issue. However, I have not tried it (yet) with BD-RB newest version, since the PiP code is not activated yet.

Bye

[tekmobile]

Assuming that you have a commercial product installed (i.e. TMT3) which does seem to handle them, is a solution available but not implemented to keep bd-rb totally free? This seems similar to the issue with the vc-1 streams where someone developed a work around using TMT or Powerdvd to handle the problem files.

There is still no free encoder for DTS-Express or DD+ even in commercial software like PDVD and TMT.

The VC-1 issue that there are some workarounds for requires TMT to decode the stream but the PiP issue requires the DTS-Express to be encoded to DD+.

So even if you could get TMT or PDVD to decode the DTS Express track there would still be no way to encode it to DD+

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, probably you missed an early post of mine.
Without ENCODE_STEP and with downsizing to 720p set the proggie ALWAYS doesn't go further than this
[09.46.31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [09.46.31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Unexpected byte
[09.46.43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

In other words: with or without ENCODE_STEP I've never got a successful 720p encode.
1080p goes smoothly, though.

Help appreciated
Thanks Yes. I saw it. The "unexpected byte" error is returned from TSMUXER. I don't know what it is. But changing ENCODE_STEP doesn't resolve anything unless you demux manually somehow and rename it to match what would have been extracted. It is apparently the resizing of the subs that causes the error.

[ds9delta]

It Was Posted On Page 196 Hey jdobbs Let Me Start By Saying It's Been A While Since I Posted But Only Becuase I've Had No Bugs To Report.... Until Now... I've Been Attempting To Encode The Mummy R0 (Australia) And Have Found That The Original Has About 68 Subtitle Tracks With Track 60 Being The English Translation Of Ancient Egyptian When The Mummy Speaks And No Matter Which Version (I've Been Through Them All To 25.01) I Load It With They All Claim There Is Only 32 Subtitle Tracks As A Result I Can't Get The Mummy's Speech Subtitles! Please Help! And By The Way Great Prog! As Soon As Is Complete I Will Totally Buy!!! (REGARDLESS OF PRICE!!!!):thanks::)

[paradise2012]

I haven't posted before and can't start without a huge THANKS! (already said so via paypal too ;-) )

Does it make sense to reverse the default settings of Audio/Subtitle languages to keep in the Setup panel? ie, don't most people prefer to hear the movie in whatever native language it is in, but read subtitles only in their language? So every update it seems I have to re-check audio languages "All Languages (all)", uncheck "Limit to one track for each language", uncheck subtitles "All Languages (all)" check "English (eng)" and uncheck "limit to one track for each language". On that note, maybe "English (eng)" (and other common languages) could be de-alphabetized and put at the top?

also (minor) I've seen a few movies fail for "full movie" but work for "movie only". Re-encoding fails sometimes for audio, sometimes for video. Sorry to be so vague about this one, but it works well so much of the time I haven't worried about this issue much... Here's the log for a couple recent examples:
a
-----------------------
[03:19:26] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_US
- Input BD size: 43.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:39:40.317]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[03:19:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:19:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [03:20:33] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 140)
- [03:33:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [03:34:36] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 140)
- [03:46:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [03:51:53] Reencoding: VID_00003 (3 of 140)
- [05:53:56] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00004]
- [05:54:21] Reencoding: VID_00004 (4 of 140)
- [06:05:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [06:09:31] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 140)
- [07:30:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00006]
- [07:33:48] Reencoding: VID_00006 (6 of 140)
- [08:03:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [08:05:31] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 140)
- [08:41:12] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00008]
- [08:41:48] Reencoding: VID_00008 (8 of 140)
- [08:55:06] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [08:58:52] Reencoding: VID_00009 (9 of 140)
- [10:17:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [10:18:17] Reencoding: VID_00010 (10 of 140)
- [10:34:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [10:35:29] Reencoding: VID_00011 (11 of 140)
- [10:50:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00012]
- [10:50:52] Reencoding: VID_00012 (12 of 140)
- [10:58:20] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [11:00:07] Reencoding: VID_00013 (13 of 140)
- [11:35:34] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00014]
- [11:38:00] Reencoding: VID_00014 (14 of 140)
- [12:29:30] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00015]
- [12:30:00] Reencoding: VID_00015 (15 of 140)
- [12:40:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00016]
- [12:42:36] Reencoding: VID_00016 (16 of 140)
- [13:31:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00017]
- [13:31:49] Reencoding: VID_00017 (17 of 140)
- [13:32:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00018]
- [13:33:07] Reencoding: VID_00018 (18 of 140)
- [13:47:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00019]
- [13:48:08] Reencoding: VID_00019 (19 of 140)
- [14:00:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00020]
- [14:01:59] Reencoding: VID_00020 (20 of 140)
- [14:32:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00021]
- [14:33:13] Reencoding: VID_00021 (21 of 140)
- [14:48:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00022]
- [14:49:26] Reencoding: VID_00022 (22 of 140)
- [15:07:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00023]
- [15:07:35] Reencoding: VID_00023 (23 of 140)
- [15:18:15] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00024]
- [15:21:23] Reencoding: VID_00024 (24 of 140)
- [16:21:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00025]
- [16:24:26] Reencoding: VID_00025 (25 of 140)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00025__4354.WAV]
[17:35:28] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
-----------------------
[19:10:55] BD Rebuilder v0.22.02 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_US
- Input BD size: 23.37 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:08.356]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:10:59] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:10:59] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [19:21:19] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 17)
- [19:33:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00018]
- [19:33:29] Reencoding: VID_00018 (2 of 17)
- [19:38:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00003]
- [19:38:42] Reencoding: VID_00003 (3 of 17)
- [20:17:10] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00019]
- [20:17:10] Reencoding: VID_00019 (4 of 17)
- [20:21:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00005]
- [20:21:43] Reencoding: VID_00005 (5 of 17)
- [20:38:38] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00020]
- [20:38:38] Reencoding: VID_00020 (6 of 17)
- [20:50:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00007]
- [20:50:27] Reencoding: VID_00007 (7 of 17)
- [21:04:38] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00021]
- [21:04:38] Reencoding: VID_00021 (8 of 17)
- [21:10:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [21:10:35] Reencoding: VID_00009 (9 of 17)
- [21:41:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00022]
- [21:41:48] Reencoding: VID_00022 (10 of 17)
- [21:48:40] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00011]
- [21:48:40] Reencoding: VID_00011 (11 of 17)
- [21:54:26] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00023]
- [21:54:26] Reencoding: VID_00023 (12 of 17)
- [21:58:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00013]
- [21:58:31] Reencoding: VID_00013 (13 of 17)
- [22:12:21] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00024]
- [22:12:21] Reencoding: VID_00024 (14 of 17)
- [22:35:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00015]
- [22:35:49] Reencoding: VID_00015 (15 of 17)
- [22:39:52] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00025]
- [22:39:52] Reencoding: VID_00025 (16 of 17)
- [22:58:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00017]
- [22:58:35] Reencoding: VID_00017 (17 of 17)
[22:58:40]PHASE ONE complete
[22:58:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:58:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:08:54] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:08:54]JOB: X_FILES_2_US completed.
-----------------------


Here's another which shows video:

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[20:00:48] BD Rebuilder v0.20.08 (beta)
- Source: STEP_BROTHERS
- Input BD size: 44.30 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:38:29.996]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[20:00:51] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:00:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00230]
- [20:00:56] Reencoding: VID_00230 (1 of 83)
- [20:01:50] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00260]
- [20:01:50] Reencoding: VID_00260 (2 of 83)
- [20:03:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00261]
- [20:04:04] Reencoding: VID_00261 (3 of 83)
- [20:08:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00263]
- [20:08:49] Reencoding: VID_00263 (4 of 83)
- [20:16:12] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00267]
- [20:16:13] Reencoding: VID_00267 (5 of 83)
- [20:16:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00268]
- [20:16:52] Reencoding: VID_00268 (6 of 83)
- [20:17:28] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00269]
- [20:17:29] Reencoding: VID_00269 (7 of 83)
- [20:18:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00270]
- [20:18:05] Reencoding: VID_00270 (8 of 83)
- [20:18:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00274]
- [20:21:16] Reencoding: VID_00274 (9 of 83)
- [21:00:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00292]
- [21:01:01] Reencoding: VID_00292 (10 of 83)
- [21:04:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00293]
- [21:05:04] Reencoding: VID_00293 (11 of 83)
- [21:13:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00294]
- [21:13:16] Reencoding: VID_00294 (12 of 83)
- [21:18:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00295]
- [21:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00295 (13 of 83)
- [21:22:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00296]
- [21:23:05] Reencoding: VID_00296 (14 of 83)
- [21:32:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00297]
- [21:33:07] Reencoding: VID_00297 (15 of 83)
- [21:45:07] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00298]
- [21:45:14] Reencoding: VID_00298 (16 of 83)
- [21:49:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00299]
- [21:49:44] Reencoding: VID_00299 (17 of 83)
- [21:57:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00300]
- [21:57:20] Reencoding: VID_00300 (18 of 83)
- [22:09:44] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00301]
- [22:10:26] Reencoding: VID_00301 (19 of 83)
- [22:38:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00302]
- [22:38:52] Reencoding: VID_00302 (20 of 83)
- [22:50:04] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00303]
- [22:50:39] Reencoding: VID_00303 (21 of 83)
- [23:10:07] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00304]
- [23:10:13] Reencoding: VID_00304 (22 of 83)
- [23:13:20] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00305]
- [23:13:43] Reencoding: VID_00305 (23 of 83)
- [23:26:50] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00306]
- [23:27:02] Reencoding: VID_00306 (24 of 83)
- [23:32:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00307]
- [23:32:39] Reencoding: VID_00307 (25 of 83)
- [23:37:10] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00308]
- [23:37:46] Reencoding: VID_00308 (26 of 83)
- [23:59:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00309]
- [00:00:11] Reencoding: VID_00309 (27 of 83)
- [00:07:44] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00310]
- [00:08:02] Reencoding: VID_00310 (28 of 83)
- [00:18:15] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00311]
- [00:18:18] Reencoding: VID_00311 (29 of 83)
- [00:19:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00312]
- [00:19:55] Reencoding: VID_00312 (30 of 83)
- [00:20:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00313]
- [00:20:31] Reencoding: VID_00313 (31 of 83)
- [00:30:41] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00314]
- [00:30:51] Reencoding: VID_00314 (32 of 83)
- [00:35:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00315]
- [00:36:14] Reencoding: VID_00315 (33 of 83)
- [00:47:41] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00316]
- [00:48:03] Reencoding: VID_00316 (34 of 83)
- [00:59:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00317]
- [00:59:26] Reencoding: VID_00317 (35 of 83)
- [01:10:37] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00318]
- [01:10:57] Reencoding: VID_00318 (36 of 83)
- [01:21:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00319]
- [01:22:15] Reencoding: VID_00319 (37 of 83)
- [01:33:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00320]
- [01:33:22] Reencoding: VID_00320 (38 of 83)
- [01:43:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00321]
- [01:43:20] Reencoding: VID_00321 (39 of 83)
- [01:50:22] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00322]
- [01:50:42] Reencoding: VID_00322 (40 of 83)
- [02:01:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00323]
- [02:01:36] Reencoding: VID_00323 (41 of 83)
- [02:10:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00324]
- [02:11:14] Reencoding: VID_00324 (42 of 83)
- [02:20:02] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00325]
- [02:20:20] Reencoding: VID_00325 (43 of 83)
- [02:30:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00326]
- [02:31:10] Reencoding: VID_00326 (44 of 83)
- [02:42:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00328]
- [02:42:40] Reencoding: VID_00328 (45 of 83)
- [02:44:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00329]
- [02:46:48] Reencoding: VID_00329 (46 of 83)
- [03:34:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00330]
- [03:35:03] Reencoding: VID_00330 (47 of 83)
- [03:45:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00331]
- [03:50:55] Reencoding: VID_00331 (48 of 83)
- [05:24:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00332]
- [05:25:46] Reencoding: VID_00332 (49 of 83)
- [05:40:27] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00333]
- [05:49:00] Reencoding: VID_00333 (50 of 83)
- [06:52:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00334]
- [06:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00334 (51 of 83)
- [07:06:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00335]
- [07:09:21] Reencoding: VID_00335 (52 of 83)
- [07:30:03] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00336]
- [07:31:51] Reencoding: VID_00336 (53 of 83)
- [07:52:36] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00337]
- [08:04:27] Reencoding: VID_00337 (54 of 83)
- [10:36:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00338]
- [10:53:55] Reencoding: VID_00338 (55 of 83)
- [11:39:51] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00339]
- [11:43:08] Reencoding: VID_00339 (56 of 83)
- [11:55:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00340]
- [11:57:13] Reencoding: VID_00340 (57 of 83)
- [12:11:33] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00341]
- [12:12:46] Reencoding: VID_00341 (58 of 83)
- [12:31:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00342]
- [12:33:49] Reencoding: VID_00342 (59 of 83)
- [12:50:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00343]
- [12:55:14] Reencoding: VID_00343 (60 of 83)
- [13:31:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00344]
- [13:36:27] Reencoding: VID_00344 (61 of 83)
- [14:17:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00345]
- [14:17:22] Reencoding: VID_00345 (62 of 83)
- [14:17:50] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00346]
- [14:18:22] Reencoding: VID_00346 (63 of 83)
- [14:23:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00347]
- [14:23:08] Reencoding: VID_00347 (64 of 83)
- [14:26:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00374]
- [14:26:16] Reencoding: VID_00374 (65 of 83)
- [14:31:49] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00375]
- [14:31:56] Reencoding: VID_00375 (66 of 83)
- [14:37:14] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00376]
- [14:37:21] Reencoding: VID_00376 (67 of 83)
- [14:42:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00377]
- [14:42:36] Reencoding: VID_00377 (68 of 83)
- [14:47:29] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00378]
- [14:47:36] Reencoding: VID_00378 (69 of 83)
- [14:52:55] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00379]
- [14:53:02] Reencoding: VID_00379 (70 of 83)
- [14:58:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00380]
- [14:58:18] Reencoding: VID_00380 (71 of 83)
- [15:04:05] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00381]
- [15:04:12] Reencoding: VID_00381 (72 of 83)
- [15:09:43] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00382]
- [15:09:50] Reencoding: VID_00382 (73 of 83)
- [15:15:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00383]
- [15:15:10] Reencoding: VID_00383 (74 of 83)
- [15:19:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00384]
- [15:19:55] Reencoding: VID_00384 (75 of 83)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[15:19:57] - Failed video encode, aborted
-----------------------
[19:22:49] BD Rebuilder v0.20.08 (beta)
- Source: STEP_BROTHERS
- Input BD size: 27.19 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:45:32.742]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19:22:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:22:54] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00274]
- [19:55:07] Reencoding: VID_00274 (1 of 12)
- [21:00:20] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00339]
- [21:00:20] Reencoding: VID_00339 (2 of 12)
- [21:11:11] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00329]
- [21:11:11] Reencoding: VID_00329 (3 of 12)
- [22:06:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00340]
- [22:06:13] Reencoding: VID_00340 (4 of 12)
- [22:22:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00331]
- [22:22:08] Reencoding: VID_00331 (5 of 12)
- [00:10:25] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00341]
- [00:10:25] Reencoding: VID_00341 (6 of 12)
- [00:30:45] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00333]
- [00:30:45] Reencoding: VID_00333 (7 of 12)
- [01:39:35] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00342]
- [01:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00342 (8 of 12)
- [01:56:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00335]
- [01:56:46] Reencoding: VID_00335 (9 of 12)
- [02:18:48] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00343]
- [02:18:48] Reencoding: VID_00343 (10 of 12)
- [02:58:57] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00337]
- [02:58:57] Reencoding: VID_00337 (11 of 12)
- [05:28:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00344]
- [05:28:09] Reencoding: VID_00344 (12 of 12)
[06:12:43]PHASE ONE complete
[06:12:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [06:12:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[06:47:47] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[06:47:47]JOB: STEP_BROTHERS completed.
-----------------------

[daberti]

Yes. I saw it. The "unexpected byte" error is returned from TSMUXER. I don't know what it is. But changing ENCODE_STEP doesn't resolve anything unless you demux manually somehow and rename it to match what would have been extracted. It is apparently the resizing of the subs that causes the error.

Yeah, subs. I do confirm. Getting rid of any sub made the things run... ;)
Now...how to help you solving the problem?
What info should I give to you?

[jdobbs]

Yeah, subs. I do confirm. Getting rid of any sub made the things run... ;)
Now...how to help you solving the problem?
What info should I give to you? It might be the settings I use as opposed to the defaults TSMUXER uses. It's something I'll have to test.

[daberti]

It might be the settings I use as opposed to the defaults TSMUXER uses. It's something I'll have to test.

If you need cooperation, here I'm.

[mech61]

How are you playing this? The audio can be there but not picked up by your pc player / standalone - there have been issues with some discs with PiP / bd-9 / Sony standalones. Try playing the movie m2ts (the largest file in STREAM) in media player classic to check whether the audio is actually there.

Ripped it again this time I had to manually add the 2 other AC3eng tracks , BDRB as default only selected the 1st track (LPCM) and ive now got audio. I hadnt noticed in setup that the "limit to one track per language" was ticked.

[drmih]

There is still no free encoder for DTS-Express or DD+ even in commercial software like PDVD and TMT.

The VC-1 issue that there are some workarounds for requires TMT to decode the stream but the PiP issue requires the DTS-Express to be encoded to DD+.

So even if you could get TMT or PDVD to decode the DTS Express track there would still be no way to encode it to DD+

Okay I see. I just assumed that as the internal beta can handle DD+ that that must be an option and that if, for example, TMT decoded the DTS-Express that it could be converted to DD+ and used, but it must therefore be that it is just remuxed untouched, which I understand tsmuxer can't do for DTS-Express.

[tekmobile]

Okay I see. I just assumed that as the internal beta can handle DD+ that that must be an option and that if, for example, TMT decoded the DTS-Express that it could be converted to DD+ and used, but it must therefore be that it is just remuxed untouched, which I understand tsmuxer can't do for DTS-Express.



Yes thats correct it if the source is DD+ its remuxed untouched but if its DTS Express its a no go ATM

[Chiamos]

Just a follow-up about the false positives with Avira anti-virus....
they have not updated to remove this warning and it basically renders BD-RB 0.25.01 useless because it comes up with the warning almost continuously...
Thus I have dropped Avira and now am using AVG, and I am glad to report that I now can access 0.25.01. Am eager to test the one-pass encoding option...thanks

Thanks for that update. I'll have to do same here because I have same issue with Avira, and it has been doing a great job for over a year, so I'll have switch to another anti-virus to get the use of 0.25.01? Wonder if the warning will still be present in next version? So AVG is working overall for you and may I ask what OS you are running? :confused:

[Kakashi Sensei]

Ok so I had 2 really weird things happen on 2 seperate backups. Like an Idiot i didn't burn to BD-RE for the Futurama Benders Game BD. Extra's and menu play fine. Play main movie and the video stops after 3-6 seconds, do a chapter skip, same thing.
The other is Matrix. Did a Quick Encode 1pass - and the main movie plays fine but again, it has a stutter to the video after chapter skip and during playback normally.

Doing a 1 pass Encode (disabled Quick Encode) to see if that was the issue. Just wondered if anyone else had this issue. Dont think its media related.

[Furiousflea]

Ok so I had 2 really weird things happen on 2 seperate backups. Like an Idiot i didn't burn to BD-RE for the Futurama Benders Game BD. Extra's and menu play fine. Play main movie and the video stops after 3-6 seconds, do a chapter skip, same thing.
The other is Matrix. Did a Quick Encode 1pass - and the main movie plays fine but again, it has a stutter to the video after chapter skip and during playback normally.

Doing a 1 pass Encode (disabled Quick Encode) to see if that was the issue. Just wondered if anyone else had this issue. Dont think its media related.

What player?

I experience a similar problem with discs that have PiP I'm guessing jdobbs will have this sorted for the next release since it has been mentioned by another member and myself alreaady.

My player is a Sony S550 FYI...jdobbs hasn't experienced the problem personally I believe but his player isn't an S550...so might be an error that only manifests on certain players.

[Kakashi Sensei]

I have a PS3. And i think they both had PiP but the video/audio was removed in the stream section. I did Batman Begins and it had PiP and play flawlessly... Oh well thats why its beta. I was using 0.25.01

[chudm]

hmmm i think its caused by bd live! did you remove bd live with anydvdhd? cause i had this problems with kung fu panda on a panasonic bd30, plays fine on the ps3, but on that panasonic just got a black screen!

[meadrocks]

With BD-RD 25.1 I did a whole disk of Coraline US. Options were Target Size BD-25, High Speed Option, One Pass Encoding, Do Not Convert DTS to AC3, Do not reencode AC3, Trellis Algorithm. Came out to 26.242 Gig. Did it in 4 hours, which was nice. It just oversized it a bit. Thanks jdobbs!

[sherloch]

I've tried a number of movies with the 0.25.01 version, using the high-speed option, movie-only, BD25, and have had mixed results on over and under sized output. On Knowing, the output was about 1GB too large, so I did a custom size of 21000MB to get it to fit on the next attempt and it barely fit on a BD25 when I did that. On Face/Off, the result was about 500MB too big, so I'm trying it again with a custom setting of 22000MB and hopefully that will do the trick. On all other movies it's been undersized, but with great quality (Ghost Town, Marley and Me, The Truman Show, Swing Vote). I watched Ghost Town last night and it was flawless, even though the movie went from 26GB to 16GB. Great work on this program!

As a side note, I have it set to keep the DTS stream if it has one, and not convert it to AC3.

[Furiousflea]

hmmm i think its caused by bd live! did you remove bd live with anydvdhd? cause i had this problems with kung fu panda on a panasonic bd30, plays fine on the ps3, but on that panasonic just got a black screen!

Don't think it's BD-Live, as I didn't remove BD-Live\Region code with AnyDVD and experienced the same problem. This was with version 0.25.01...anyways as said already jdobbs is on it...I think that was my gathering from when he posted about it a couple of pages back.

[Kakashi Sensei]

Don't think it's BD-Live, as I didn't remove BD-Live\Region code with AnyDVD and experienced the same problem. This was with version 0.25.01...anyways as said already jdobbs is on it...I think that was my gathering from when he posted about it a couple of pages back.

Yeah I didn't do that with AnyDVDHD. i'm going to do the Futurama again tonight. I think i did it using the previous release.

All my rips are full BD25. These 2 were the only ones i have had probs with. They are similar issues, i have never had black screen issue just frame stuttering and Video Freezing up.

[DK]

Bear with me if it has been answered before, but I ran into the following problem for the first time ever today:

Latest BD-RB version 25.01 did NOT open the structure of a bd on my harddrive. First i thought that maybe re-ripping might help but i did not.

Will an LPCM stream as first audio stream (AC3/DTS also present on this music bd) make bd-rb behave this way?

[setarip_old]

@meadrocks

Hi!With BD-RD 25.1 I did a whole disk of Coraline US.May I ask how this can be? According to Amazon.com:This item will be released on Jul 21, 2009

[meadrocks]

@meadrocks

Hi!May I ask how this can be? According to Amazon.com:

Eh, my dvd rental store puts em out early.

[drmih]

You may want to give the forum rules a once over (and those titles have also amazingly just appeared on newsgroups)!

[DK]

Bear with me if it has been answered before, but I ran into the following problem for the first time ever today:

Latest BD-RB version 25.01 did NOT open the structure of a bd on my harddrive. First i thought that maybe re-ripping might help but i did not.

Will an LPCM stream as first audio stream (AC3/DTS also present on this music bd) make bd-rb behave this way?

When using BD-25 I have no option for any selection (input is 42+ gb); with BD-9 there is the usual structure available.

c.f. attached screenshots.

[kanerulz69]

i encoded Friday the 13th (2009) killer cut to bd-25 and i used the 1 pass high quality default and it did fine couldnt tell a difference

and i jus did Fargo bd-25 with one pass as well but decided to use the high speed option and it was REALLY REALLY blocky / pixelated

[chudm]

pretty strange man, i had done several rips with high quality, and high speed to bd25 in full backup mode with excellent quality!

it only takes with my e8400 (core to duo 3.0 ghz) between 4-6 hours to do the whole bd! i did bolt, ratatouille, transformers, batman begins, underworld 3, death race, and all look excellent on my lcds :)

[kanerulz69]

pretty strange man, i had done several rips with high quality, and high speed to bd25 in full backup mode with excellent quality!

it only takes with my e8400 (core to duo 3.0 ghz) between 4-6 hours to do the whole bd! i did bolt, ratatouille, transformers, batman begins, underworld 3, death race, and all look excellent on my lcds :)

I have an AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.50ghz 4GB Ram, 32bit OS and it take 4hrs & 45min to do that movie which isnt bad it usually takes 27hrs to do it with normal encoding 2pass, i dunno if its the 1 pass or the high speed that made it pixelated? so im going to do it 1 pass with default and see if that helps and if not then i'll try 2pass and see

[chudm]

i set the default quality option(high quality), and only select the high speed to bd-25 and works perfect with all the movies i said before

[kanerulz69]

i set the default quality option(high quality), and only select the high speed to bd-25 and works perfect with all the movies i said before

so u do 1 pass encoding or 2pass?

[kanerulz69]

also i always use quicker for encodes checked which im sure that doesnt do anything with quality jus gets the extras out of the way quicker

[chudm]

i dont use the one pass mode, just high speed mode

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

After yet again using the "One pass (Experimental)" and DVD5 settings for a movie-only version of "The Happening" (with one language stream and all subs) and yielding a ridiculously small 1.8Gb file (of reasonably good video quality!), a thought/question occurred to me.

In your calculations for the "One pass (Experimental)", are you possibly first excluding from available for video filesize ALL audiostreams at their full initial filesizes?

[MILLZY]

I just need some clarafication on a encoder setting,When using the high speed option is the quality setting automatically set to high quality or is it set to lesser quality because its faster :confused:

[kanerulz69]

I just need some clarafication on a encoder setting,When using the high speed option is the quality setting automatically set to high quality or is it set to lesser quality because its faster :confused:

good question for me i havent had any good resluts using it but blocky pixelation etc, so doing it in high quality default resluts look way much better

[MILLZY]

Just recieved this error on watchmen full backup and at high speed option:

-----------------------
[14:39:44] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN DIRECTOR'S CUT.2009.
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[14:39:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:39:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00524]
- [14:39:46] Reencoding: VID_00524 (1 of 50)
- [14:39:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
- [14:39:50] Reencoding: VID_00500 (2 of 50)
- [14:40:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
- [14:40:09] Reencoding: VID_00600 (3 of 50)
- [14:40:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
- [14:41:06] Reencoding: VID_00501 (4 of 50)
- [14:42:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [14:42:40] Reencoding: VID_00205 (5 of 50)
- [14:47:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14:47:36] Reencoding: VID_00000 (6 of 50)
- [14:50:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00604]
- [14:51:07] Reencoding: VID_00604 (7 of 50)
- [14:52:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00606]
- [14:53:18] Reencoding: VID_00606 (8 of 50)
- [14:55:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [14:55:32] Reencoding: VID_00010 (9 of 50)
- [15:07:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00208]
- [15:07:35] Reencoding: VID_00208 (10 of 50)
- [15:13:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00209]
- [15:14:02] Reencoding: VID_00209 (11 of 50)
- [15:20:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
- [15:21:15] Reencoding: VID_00202 (12 of 50)
- [15:27:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
- [15:28:05] Reencoding: VID_00207 (13 of 50)
- [15:34:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00206]
- [15:34:51] Reencoding: VID_00206 (14 of 50)
- [15:41:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00610]
- [15:42:19] Reencoding: VID_00610 (15 of 50)
- [15:45:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00603]
- [15:45:29] Reencoding: VID_00603 (16 of 50)
- [15:48:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00204]
- [15:49:02] Reencoding: VID_00204 (17 of 50)
- [15:56:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00200]
- [15:57:05] Reencoding: VID_00200 (18 of 50)
- [16:03:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00210]
- [16:04:11] Reencoding: VID_00210 (19 of 50)
- [16:10:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00201]
- [16:11:06] Reencoding: VID_00201 (20 of 50)
- [16:17:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00608]
- [16:18:21] Reencoding: VID_00608 (21 of 50)
- [16:20:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00605]
- [16:21:20] Reencoding: VID_00605 (22 of 50)
- [16:24:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00203]
- [16:24:31] Reencoding: VID_00203 (23 of 50)
- [16:31:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00509]
- [16:32:23] Reencoding: VID_00509 (24 of 50)
- [16:35:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00602]
- [16:36:05] Reencoding: VID_00602 (25 of 50)
- [16:38:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00609]
- [16:39:25] Reencoding: VID_00609 (26 of 50)
- [16:42:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00607]
- [16:42:47] Reencoding: VID_00607 (27 of 50)
- [16:45:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00601]
- [16:46:22] Reencoding: VID_00601 (28 of 50)
- [16:49:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00513]
- [16:50:06] Reencoding: VID_00513 (29 of 50)
- [16:53:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00502]
- [16:53:54] Reencoding: VID_00502 (30 of 50)
- [16:55:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00521]
- [16:56:29] Reencoding: VID_00521 (31 of 50)
- [17:00:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [17:01:14] Reencoding: VID_00511 (32 of 50)
- [17:06:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
- [17:06:43] Reencoding: VID_00507 (33 of 50)
- [17:10:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00519]
- [17:11:36] Reencoding: VID_00519 (34 of 50)
- [17:16:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00517]
- [17:17:24] Reencoding: VID_00517 (35 of 50)
- [17:22:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- [17:23:03] Reencoding: VID_00505 (36 of 50)
- [17:27:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [17:28:40] Reencoding: VID_00503 (37 of 50)
- [17:33:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00520]
- [17:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00520 (38 of 50)
- [17:38:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00523]
- [17:38:59] Reencoding: VID_00523 (39 of 50)
- [17:46:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00515]
- [17:47:24] Reencoding: VID_00515 (40 of 50)
- [17:53:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00510]
- [17:54:37] Reencoding: VID_00510 (41 of 50)
- [17:58:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00611]
- [17:59:56] Reencoding: VID_00611 (42 of 50)
- [18:06:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00508]
- [18:07:18] Reencoding: VID_00508 (43 of 50)
- [18:12:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00518]
- [18:15:54] Reencoding: VID_00518 (44 of 50)
- [18:29:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00522]
- [18:33:01] Reencoding: VID_00522 (45 of 50)
- [18:49:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00504]
- [18:53:13] Reencoding: VID_00504 (46 of 50)
- [19:09:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00516]
- [19:14:14] Reencoding: VID_00516 (47 of 50)
- [19:34:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00506]
- [19:39:56] Reencoding: VID_00506 (48 of 50)
- [19:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00512]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
[19:50:29] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Any ideas?

[jdobbs]

i encoded Friday the 13th (2009) killer cut to bd-25 and i used the 1 pass high quality default and it did fine couldnt tell a difference

and i jus did Fargo bd-25 with one pass as well but decided to use the high speed option and it was REALLY REALLY blocky / pixelated It depends on the size of the source. But generally for BD-25 you're in pretty good shape.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

After yet again using the "One pass (Experimental)" and DVD5 settings for a movie-only version of "The Happening" (with one language stream and all subs) and yielding a ridiculously small 1.8Gb file (of reasonably good video quality!), a thought/question occurred to me.

In your calculations for the "One pass (Experimental)", are you possibly first excluding from available for video filesize ALL audiostreams at their full initial filesizes? I do a 5% sample with 1-pass bitrate to get an idea of the quants (from the .stats file) needed for overall encode. I then use an average of the quants for CRF.

The problem with that method is that using an average assumes that all Q values are equal -- which, of course, isn't true (e.g. an output frame with a Q value of 16 is not twice the size of as a value of 32, it could be several times the size) -- but I was hoping the range would be close enought that it would work out.

So, in my test version I went to extremes and assigned a weighted value to each Q based upon a series of test encodes I did, and then selected a Q value that best suits the weighting. The problem is that the jury is out as to whether it is any more accurate. I'll probably release another test version just to get some feedback.

I'm afraid it may come down to the sample, and whether it is truly representative of the source -- and that, I'm afraid, is next to impossible to correct. If you start increasing the sample, you add time to the encode. You can also adjust the distribution of the sample. Right now I'm skipping over the first 4000 frames to eliminate the impact of the intro (or 1/4 of the framecount, whichever is less), and then encoding 96 (consecutive) frames out of every 1920.

If anyone wants to experiment, you can adjust the sampling with two "hidden" options in the [Options] area of the INI file. Here are the defaults:

SAMPLE_GROUP=1920
SAMPLE_SIZE=96

You could, for example create a 10% sample by setting the values to 1920/192 or 1000/100.

If anyone finds a "magic setting" that seems to be fairly accurate, please let me know.

[jdobbs]

I just need some clarafication on a encoder setting,When using the high speed option is the quality setting automatically set to high quality or is it set to lesser quality because its faster :confused: The High-Speed option actually is a quality option. It could be called high-speed/lowest-quality.

But... quality is also affected by bitrate not just the bells-and-whistles settings that are added in higher quality modes. When you select BD-25 you are using a bitrate that is about 2.5 times the same encode on a BD-9. So you can get away with a lot fewer time-consuming quality tweaks.

Frankly I really meant for it to be used with the one-pass prediction. The Highest-Speed option on it's own is simply a one-pass bitrate-based encode. That mode will never produce quality equal to a 2 pass encode at the same bitrate. With the right prediction, though, a CRF (one-pass) encode can come close.

[Sharc]

If anyone finds a "magic setting" that seems to be fairly accurate, please let me know.
I do crf prediction as follows:
- Take a 1% sample with crf x (e.g. crf 21) => file size 1
- Take a second 1% sample with say crf x+1 (crf 22) => file size 2
- "Interpolate" (conservatively) the final crf based on the 2 file sizes.
(a 3rd 1% sample may be needed if I am too far away with the first 2 tests).
Not very scientific, I know .....
Important of course that the samples are taken with exact the same x264 encoder parameters as intended for the final encode.

[Furiousflea]

Forgive my ignorance....

But why don't you just use the same method as you use for DVD RB, that seemed to produce pretty accurate 1 pass encoding results for me in the past (although I never really used it as preferred the quality of more than 1 pass)...

My apologies if I'm being a cretin as obiously it's a completely different encoder\codec being used.

Didn't DVD RB do something more akin to what sharc is talking about...did a conservative q value then upped\lowered based on the output size...and then encoded once the output size from a given q was satisfactory using that q for the whole encode...

Just curious really :)

[Kakashi Sensei]

Just recieved this error on watchmen full backup and at high speed option:

-----------------------
[14:39:44] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: WATCHMEN.DIRECTOR'S.CUT.2009.
- Input BD size: 39.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:56.990]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB

- [19:39:56] Reencoding: VID_00506 (48 of 50)
- [19:48:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00512]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Not enought buffer for parse video stream. Current frame num 2689
[19:50:29] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


Any ideas?

I could be wrong but it sounds like you ran out of space

[jdobbs]

Forgive my ignorance....

But why don't you just use the same method as you use for DVD RB, that seemed to produce pretty accurate 1 pass encoding results for me in the past (although I never really used it as preferred the quality of more than 1 pass)...

My apologies if I'm being a cretin as obiously it's a completely different encoder\codec being used.

Didn't DVD RB do something more akin to what sharc is talking about...did a conservative q value then upped\lowered based on the output size...and then encoded once the output size from a given q was satisfactory using that q for the whole encode...

Just curious really :) I could do that. But with HD it takes a long time because of the multiple passes. In truth it might take less time to just do an ultra-speed first pass, and when this is all over that may be what I end up doing.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Since you've opened the door for us to experiment with settings, may I ask:

Is there a way to, without changing your sampling, for a user/tester to change the CRF value before the post-sampling processing begins?

I ask because after having done four or five conversions (low, medium, and fairly high action and/or color) using "One-pass (Experimental)", all coming in at FAR below target size, I'd like to be able to "blindly" adjust the CRF to try and yield a 75% higher videostream size.

BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%?

[setarip_old]

@MILLZY

Hi!Source: WATCHMEN.DIRECTOR'S.CUT.2009.Any ideas?Perhaps other members (myself included) might have some ideas when we've been able to purchase this BluRay title when it's released on July 21...

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Since you've opened the door for us to experiment with settings, may I ask:

Is there a way to, without changing your sampling, for a user/tester to change the CRF value before the post-sampling processing begins?

I ask because after having done four or five conversions (low, medium, and fairly high action and/or color) using "One-pass (Experimental)", all coming in at FAR below target size, I'd like to be able to "blindly" adjust the CRF to try and yield a 75% higher videostream size.

BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%? Unfortunately it isn't that simple. The value to make it 75% larger would depend on the complexity of the content.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Allow me to reiterate my first question:

Is there a way to, without changing your sampling, for a user/tester to change the CRF value before the post-sampling processing begins? If so, how?

And, for my sake, I'll dumb down my second question:

Does increasing CRF increase or decrease the filesize of the videostream?

[Sharc]

BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%?
There is no rule here. That's why I make 2 sample files with slightly different crf. It gives an impression of the sensitivity of file size vs crf for a particular source. Based on this information you can speculate.
Increasing the crf value reduces the file size; decreasing the crf increases the file size.
You find explanations about the x264 settings here:
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/X264_Settings.

[MILLZY]

I could be wrong but it sounds like you ran out of space

I have still plenty of space left!

[MILLZY]

@MILLZY

Hi!Perhaps other members (myself included) might have some ideas when we've been able to purchase this BluRay title when it's released on July 21...

I have acces to blu rays from blockbuster from my friends before they are put on the self...I will introduce you to them if you want! And the point of you comment is..............!

[MILLZY]

The High-Speed option actually is a quality option. It could be called high-speed/lowest-quality.

But... quality is also affected by bitrate not just the bells-and-whistles settings that are added in higher quality modes. When you select BD-25 you are using a bitrate that is about 2.5 times the same encode on a BD-9. So you can get away with a lot fewer time-consuming quality tweaks.

Frankly I really meant for it to be used with the one-pass prediction. The Highest-Speed option on it's own is simply a one-pass bitrate-based encode. That mode will never produce quality equal to a 2 pass encode at the same bitrate. With the right prediction, though, a CRF (one-pass) encode can come close.

Thanks very much for the info........

[drmih]

I have acces to blu rays from blockbuster from my friends before they are put on the self...I will introduce you to them if you want! And the point of you question is..............!

I think that the concern is probably two-fold. At best they are rental versions but in the past people have been downloading them from newsgroups, which apart from the legal issue, has led to bugs being reported which were down to a corrupt rip rather than the programme (I certainly remember helping someone ages ago when this turned out to be the case). On your Watchmen, even the source name looks like the extraction directory from the rar set just posted on the newsgroups, rather than the header from a ripped disc.

[setarip_old]

@MILLZYI have acces to blu rays from blockbuster from my friends before they are put on the self...I will introduce you to them if you want! And the point of you question is..............!If you re-read your quote of my post, you'll be hard-pressed to find a question. I said (and you quoted):Perhaps other members (myself included) might have some ideas when we've been able to purchase this BluRay title when it's released on July 21...

However, as a rule-abiding member, I can only reply to the part of your response that I've highlighted in red by saying:

OOPS!

[daberti]

good question for me i havent had any good resluts using it but blocky pixelation etc, so doing it in high quality default resluts look way much better

May I ask you the video bitrate (once encoded) in the film you exeperienced problems with?

[MILLZY]

@MILLZYIf you re-read your quote of my post, you'll be hard-pressed to find a question. I said (and you quoted):

However, as a rule-abiding member, I can only reply to the part of your response that I've highlighted in red by saying:

OOPS!

Fair comment,Didnt realise there were any blu ray police scouring the posts:)

I have just edited the post to (and the point of your comment is..........!) is that better.

And i still stand by what i have said....

[Aratar]

I just used latest BD Rebuilder on the new US Fast and Furious to do a full movie backup to BD25 but had a few problems:

1. For some reason BD Rebuilder is only listing 14 Tracks leaving out several 1gb+ m2ts extra files that it simply 1:1 copies. As a result the actual movie m2ts is rather small.

2. I get a audio/pgs is probably too big error with the question to continue on main movie.

any ideas?

Edit1:

As far the first problem, I just read through the changelogs and it seems that mixed progressive and interlaced VC-1 content can't be reencoded, so it simply skips the 1080i content. If I add DISABLE_VC1_FIX=1, I see the missing tracks but they all have ** so I guess it would end up in a garbled result.

[PurpleMan]

Is there any way to use a x64 build of x264.exe with BD-Rebuilder?

If so, which version should I use?

Thanks.

[varied]

Hello there!


I tried to fully backup a live concert to a bd9 with the slowest encoder settings, though video wasn't that much of importance to me. I wanted to keep the audio quality, so I checked "Do not reencode AC3" and "Do not convert DTS to AC3"
, also "Resize - 1080p to 720p" yet the video is interlaced 60i.

BR-RB reencoded video only in the first two files and then multiplexed them just ok, but when it came to the third one (the main concert) it reencoded the video just ok again, and it then started trying to reencode the audio, then a cmd window popped up in which there were such lines:
"
D:\Programs\Video\BD_Rebuilder(2)>"D:\Programs\Video\BD_Rebuilder(2)\tools\wavi.
exe" "D:\WORKING2\WORKFILES\AUD_00003_4352.AVS" - | "D:\Programs\Video\BD_Rebu
ilder(2)\tools\aften.exe" -v 1 -b 224 -readtoeof 1 - "D:\WORKING2\WORKFILES\AUD_
00003_4352.AC3"

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

Found PCM audio: 2 channels, 96000 Hz, 16 bits, 7593.270000 seconds.
Writing WAV file...
input format: Microsoft WAVE Signed 16-bit little-endian 96000 Hz stereo
output format: 96000 Hz stereo (2/0)

invalid sample rate
error initializing encoder
Error: Could not write to the standard output.
"

In the log window there were those lines:
"
[13:39:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:39:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00003__4352.WAV]
[13:45:34] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted
"
I tried to add SSRC(48000) to the script(so the job would be done and the BD structure would be built so then I could replace reencoded audio in the video file with the original one), but every time I resume the backup the BD-RB rewrites the AVS file, so the same mistake again.


I don't know whether its me or a bug

And one not related question, don't want to start a new thread:
Will the menu work if I manualy reencode all the m2ts files and replace the originals with the reencoded?


Excuse my English, please

[PurpleMan]

@varied:

A lame (but working) workaround would be to add what you want to the avs file, and name it my_avs_file.avs
then create the following batch file:

@echo off
:start
copy /y my_avs_file.avs [bd-rb avs filename].avs
goto start

then run the batch file in the background while clicking "backup" in bd-rb. it will overwrite the avs, but before an encode would start, your background process would re-overwrite it with the editted file and it would work.

I, too, would have loved having the option to set BD-RB to not overwrite avs files if they already exist. would make certain things easier for advanced users.

[kanerulz69]

May I ask you the video bitrate (once encoded) in the film you exeperienced problems with?

will it show that in the log somewhere?

[ds9delta]

Attempting Cars R0 (Australia) Using BD-RB 25.01

- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00060.meta
- Pes packet len too large ( >100Mb). Bad stream or invalid codec speciffed.
[00:27:59] - Failed to build structure, aborted

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22500
TARGET_SIZE=22500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=1

[Sharc]

.........BTW - Since I know very little of the actual workings of CRF, may I ask - if, for example, your 5% sample calculated CRF is 30, what would I change that to, in order to increase the videostream size by 75%?
Perhaps you may want to have a look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1306297#post1306297
http://komisar.gin.by/CRF2Size.html

[setarip_old]

@Sharc

Thanks for the link(s). Unfortunately, regarding my question of "jdobbs", the formula appears to include two unknowns ("NeedBitrate"and "GotBitrate") used to solve for "NextCRF")...

[jdobbs]

@Sharc

Thanks for the link(s). Unfortunately, regarding my question of "jdobbs", the formula appears to include two unknowns ("NeedBitrate"and "GotBitrate") used to solve for "NextCRF")... I'll check these out. I know the "needed" bitrate and can calculate the "got" from the output size.

[varied]

@PurpleMan
Thanks, didn't think about that possibility. Works great!

[Sharc]

I'll check these out. I know the "needed" bitrate and can calculate the "got" from the output size.
I would assume that you could directly replace "needed bitrate" by "needed filesize" and "got bitrate" by "got filesize", hence no need to make a detour via calculating the bitrate from the filesize. The Newton-Raphson algorithm should work equally well.

Added:
I did some tests based on filesize. Seems to work pretty well so far ....

Added2:
Seems to converge even faster (2 or 3 iterations for <10% error) if -6 is replaced by -5.5. More tests needed ....

[drmih]

Hopefully to finally identify the problem related to Sony standalones, missing audio on the movie and PiP, I have just done a disc which had two versions of the movie - one with PiP and the other without. When played back the version which would originally have had PiP was silent but the other version fine.

[jdobbs]

Hopefully to finally identify the problem related to Sony standalones, missing audio on the movie and PiP, I have just done a disc which had two versions of the movie - one with PiP and the other without. When played back the version which would originally have had PiP was silent but the other version fine. I have two Sony standalones -- and this happens on neither of them. Can you give me a specific disc (region A) that has this problem?

[chudm]

i had tested region A kung fu panda with the lastest 3 betas, and played perfect on my ps3, but when i tried to play it (the backup) on a panasonic bd-30 all plays good, but when i tried to play the main movie it shows only a black screen! i deactivated bdlive like i read on a post here, but nothing seems to work with that movie on that player!

[drmih]

I have two Sony standalones -- and this happens on neither of them. Can you give me a specific disc (region A) that has this problem?

Basically any Universal title with PiP and probably others which are done to bd-9 full disc (the files that don't work on on a bd-9 are fine if coped to a bd-25) - some of the ones I've actually done:

Mummy series
Bourne series
day the earth (new)
changeling
frost nixon
twilight
wanted
madagascar 2

I'm hoping that when you release the version with PiP audio that that might nail the issue with those with suitable audio streams.

[daberti]

will it show that in the log somewhere?

@kanerulz69
Go the Mediainfo (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/) way ;)
Please just give us the resolution (i.e. 1080p or 720p) and bitrate.
Keep in mind that High-Speed is meant to be used with One-pass and BD-25.

@jdobbs
Some logs encoding Black Hawk Down, region B, movie only, PCM audio

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[19.59.39] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.59.39] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.59.39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.38.08] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 5,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 22,09 for encode.
[23.53.00]PHASE ONE complete
[23.53.00]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [23.53.00] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00.11.44] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00.11.44]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[12.30.27] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[12.30.27] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12.30.27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [13.20.35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 10,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 21,97 for encode.
[13.56.21]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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[14.39.03] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14.39.07] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14.39.07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [15.24.40] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 20,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,38 for encode.
[19.07.05]PHASE ONE complete
[19.07.05]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [19.07.05] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19.29.20] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[19.29.20]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
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[19.48.19] BD Rebuilder v0.25.01 (beta)
- Source: BHD_PCM
- Input BD size: 33,03 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:19.649]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[19.48.19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19.48.19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [20.35.14] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Analyzing complexity using 40,0% sample.
- Selected CRF value of 23,47 for encode.
[00.42.26]PHASE ONE complete
[00.42.27]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [00.42.27] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[01.01.56] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[01.01.56]JOB: BHD_PCM finished.
*******************

My understanding is that 20% sample should be the best option. I'll test Blade Runner (final cut) ASAP.