BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MrVideo]

Don't believe MKV supports menus

You are correct, it does not.

[lauguru]

mkv format would be acceptable for you? Or only BD-structure?

I would like to make the whole structure of a BD50 / h264 and use all the space BD25 using the potential of HVEC / X265 using 2 pass custom target.

I guess just missing that bdrebuilder, default encoding in X265, instead of x264, if @jdobbs could add that option in another version of bdrebuilder, would be appreciated.
Since archive_mode only leaves one pass and crf


Look at the the Alternate Output profiles
Profiles 33, 34,35,36 from default Alternate text file, or create your own for Movie only
Don't believe MKV supports menus

i use this for mkv gonca, but I would like to save the entire structure of a bd:
[00037]
caption=MKV Container, HEVC 1920x1080, Intact Audio
vEncoder=1
vBitrate=2000
vKeyint=Auto
aType=2
vFormat=5
cType=1

[gamete]

HI
i'm italian
sorry for my bad english

maybe for newbie with me is prefer that the settings are automatic o fit inside bd rebuilder for simplify the set :)

i use win7 64bit


can you check if the settings are correct ?
my backup are slightly out of sync, for example with REVENANT

http://postimg.org/delete/qysqhp8rk/
http://postimg.org/delete/mzwl6sb4w/

i use ffdshow
maybe i must to try with LAV Directshow Filters and disinstall ffdshow ?

[04/29/16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.12
[14:30:25] Source: REVENANT
- Input BD size: 37,18 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:36:21.371]
- Target BD size: 23,88 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:30:25] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:30:25] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [14:30:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14:41:10] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 224.928 frames
- Bitrate: 19.450 Kbs
- [14:41:10] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:43:21] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:58:35] Video Encode complete
- [18:58:35] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (ita): Keeping original audio
[18:58:35]PHASE ONE complete
[18:58:35]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:58:35] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[19:12:10] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- Computer SHUTDOWN initiated.

[Status]
LABEL=REVENANT
VERSION=v0.50.12
SOURCE_SIZE=39926083584
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=39926083584
TARGET_SIZE=25637683200
REDUCTION=.642128676258997
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;ita;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=-1
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=1100
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=25637683200
RATE=19450
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[05/29/16] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.14
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 11,33GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 4504, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[05/29/16] Systems Settings Check complete



[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.14
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24500



THANK YOU

[gonca]

Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
You are not using FFDshow

[gamete]

You are not using FFDshow


what do you advise ?

http://postimg.org/delete/mzwl6sb4w/

disinstall FFDSHOW and install LAV ?
OR KEEP only ffdshow and set "use directshowsource for frame serving" ?


ps in case FFDSHOW is set correctly?

[gonca]

use directshowsource for frame serving
try this first

[jdobbs]

what do you advise ?

http://postimg.org/delete/mzwl6sb4w/

disinstall FFDSHOW and install LAV ?
OR KEEP only ffdshow and set "use directshowsource for frame serving" ?


ps in case FFDSHOW is set correctly?LAV is the recommended solution.

[gamete]

try this first



Thanks

[gamete]

LAV is the recommended solution.



1)Have i to unistall FFDSHOW ?

2)Lav must be set ? How ?

3)If i install LAV in bd setup i must set(flag) in "use x264 internal LAVF for frame serving" ?

Thanks

[jdobbs]

1)Have i to unistall FFDSHOW ?

2)Lav must be set ? How ?

3)If i install LAV in bd setup i must set(flag) in "use x264 internal LAVF for frame serving" ?

Thanks1. No.
2. No.
3. No.

Just install it (see the first post of this thread).

[gamete]

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.

Just install it (see the first post of this thread).


If i install LAV how set bd rebuilder ?
I read the first post but i dont know how to set bdrebuilder in decoding/frame serving option


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hPQBi48PyrE/VONh8VxG5qI/AAAAAAAB1V4/oH2fyUx0ESY/s500/BD.Rebuilder.v0.50.04-FREE-www.intercambiosvirtuales.org-03.png

[jdobbs]

If you install LAV filters (after FFDSHOW) it will be used when you select DirectShowSource().

[gamete]

If you install LAV filters (after FFDSHOW) it will be used when you select DirectShowSource().



Then if i install LAV.....FFDshow is Unnecessary ?

But what do you.advice in decoding/frame serving option independently da FFDSHOW or LAV ?

when to use the other option in.decoding/frame serving option ?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hPQBi48PyrE/VONh8VxG5qI/AAAAAAAB1V4/oH2fyUx0ESY/s500/BD.Rebuilder.v0.50.04-FREE-www.intercambiosvirtuales.org-03.png


EDIT

when to use one of 4 option ?

ps this picture is example
not my configuration
http://s14.imagestime.com/out.php/t1070283_Nuovaimmaginebitmap.jpg (http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1070283_Nuovaimmaginebitmap.jpg.html)

[jdobbs]

FFDSHOW will no longer be needed for BD-RB -- I'm not sure if there is any other software on your computer that might use it.

Use the DirectshowSource() option... the "Use X264's internal..." choice is for LAVF (which is embedded in X264). Using that selection will limit your options because it no longer utilizes AVISYNTH.

[gamete]

FFDSHOW will no longer be needed for BD-RB -- I'm not sure if there is any other software on your computer that might use it.

Use the DirectshowSource() option... the "Use X264's internal..." choice is for LAVF (which is embedded in X264). Using that selection will limit your options because it no longer utilizes AVISYNTH.

then the best choice is the "DirectshowSource option" ?
so far I have used "Use X264's internal ..."


anothers doubt

1)here http://s14.imagestime.com/out.php/t1070286_Nuovaimmaginebitmap.jpg (http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1070286_Nuovaimmaginebitmap.jpg.html)
the set is correct ?

2) i use win7 64bit
you write "If you installed HAALI/FFDSHOW< Setup VC-1 decoding in the same way you did MPEG-2 in step 2B. For Vista or Windows 7+ using "Video Decoder Configuration" -- select "wmv9".

for win7 i must set VC1 "libavcodec" like a mpeg2 or wm9 ?

THANKS

[varekai]

FFDSHOW will no longer be needed for BD-RB -- I'm not sure if there is any other software on your computer that might use it.

Use the DirectshowSource() option... the "Use X264's internal..." choice is for LAVF (which is embedded in X264). Using that selection will limit your options because it no longer utilizes AVISYNTH.

Eager to learn...
Always kept the "Use X264's internal LAVF for frame serving" box ticked.
Could you give a brief explanation what limitations I may encounter?
I have no problems with BDRB, it works very well for me so I'm just curious if I should change my settings.
I installed the helper tools as of your instructions.

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Some resizing won't work. No inverse telecining. No filters can be used. Lots more. Anything that requires AVISYNTH would be unavailable.

[Lathe]

Some resizing won't work. No inverse telecining. No filters can be used. Lots more. Anything that requires AVISYNTH would be unavailable.

Hmmm, that's curious...

I always use the LAVF setting, and yet, when resizing is necessary (add borders, etc.) or if I have entered AVS instructions and checked that box, everything works just fine. The ONLY thing is that in MY case, I get that funny prompt when AVS is called. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this...

[jdobbs]

That's because I've added some checks so that sometimes when you select "extended" features BD-RB will automatically switch to DirectshowSource() rather than LAVF/X264 (when LAV or FFDSHOW is installed).

[Lathe]

That's because I've added some checks so that sometimes when you select "extended" features BD-RB will automatically switch to DirectshowSource() rather than LAVF/X264 (when LAV or FFDSHOW is installed).

Hey, that's great. Nice touch mate... You've thought of everything!

Now... if you could just get it to look like Sandra Bullock...

[Lathe]

Hey, I want to compile about 40 gigs of episodes using the Import function, but I think I asked about this before, each episode has the DTS core audio @1500 which I would LIKE to keep if possible. But, if I remember correctly, I THINK BDRB automatically converts the audio to AC3 @640 which I DON'T want. I THINK it does this because the DTS core itself is not a BD standard, right?

But, is there any way for me to have BDRB compile the episodes and compress them and KEEP the DTS audio @1500?

Hmmm, actually I just checked and it looks like my only choice is AC3 @448...

No way to get 640 at least if I can't keep the DTS...?

Thanks!

[gamete]

Sorry @jdobbs can you reply at. http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1768976&postcount=24266 ?

[MrVideo]

Hey, I want to compile about 40 gigs of episodes using the Import function, but I think I asked about this before, each episode has the DTS core audio @1500 which I would LIKE to keep if possible. But, if I remember correctly, I THINK BDRB automatically converts the audio to AC3 @640 which I DON'T want. I THINK it does this because the DTS core itself is not a BD standard, right?

All of the DTS formats are allowed with Blu-Ray. Hell, even DTS Atmos and DTS-X are allowed with Blu-ray, even though they didn't exist when the Blu-ray standard was cast. So, I'm confused as to why any of the Dolby or DTS formats couldn't be used with BDRB.

[varekai]

@jdobbs
Some resizing won't work. No inverse telecining. No filters can be used. Lots more. Anything that requires AVISYNTH would be unavailable.


Then I think I'm good because all I mostly do is encode a BD (movie only) to fit a BD-R 25GB.
Made some smaller mkv's (10GB) that came out in perfect quality.

That's because I've added some checks so that sometimes when you select "extended" features BD-RB will automatically switch to DirectshowSource() rather than LAVF/X264 (when LAV or FFDSHOW is installed).

That's a nice feature I didn't know about.
Looks like I will keep my settings as they are.

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Hey, I want to compile about 40 gigs of episodes using the Import function, but I think I asked about this before, each episode has the DTS core audio @1500 which I would LIKE to keep if possible. But, if I remember correctly, I THINK BDRB automatically converts the audio to AC3 @640 which I DON'T want. I THINK it does this because the DTS core itself is not a BD standard, right?

But, is there any way for me to have BDRB compile the episodes and compress them and KEEP the DTS audio @1500?

Hmmm, actually I just checked and it looks like my only choice is AC3 @448...

No way to get 640 at least if I can't keep the DTS...?

Thanks!You must be thinking of a discussion on AVCHD -- which doesn't support DTS. BD format supports DTS.

I don't see an issue with what you're attempting to do. During import BD-RB will convert the audio only when it is required in order to meet BD standards. When you reencode (assuming you must) the default is to use AC3 -- but your settings will dictate whether any conversion is performed.

[worknstiff]

@ Lathe RE: each episode has the DTS core audio @1500 which I would LIKE to keep if possible.

If you are creating a BD25 project then BD Rebuilder will keep the DTS "CORE" intact when you leave the check in "Do not convert DTS to AC3 box) and take it out of the "Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate intact". Or at least that's what happens when I create a Blu ray folder with BD Rebuilder. Hell it will even keep the DTS core for a DVD DL movie only output if you use the "Do not convert DTS" checked and full-backup, or movie-only and "Strict AVCHD" is not checked: When the source is DTS, the DTS core is extracted and used intact (bit-for-bit).

[Lathe]

@ Lathe RE: each episode has the DTS core audio @1500 which I would LIKE to keep if possible.

If you are creating a BD25 project then BD Rebuilder will keep the DTS "CORE" intact when you leave the check in "Do not convert DTS to AC3 box) and take it out of the "Keep HD Audio for BD25/Alternate intact". Or at least that's what happens when I create a Blu ray folder with BD Rebuilder. Hell it will even keep the DTS core for a DVD DL movie only output if you use the "Do not convert DTS" checked and full-backup, or movie-only and "Strict AVCHD" is not checked: When the source is DTS, the DTS core is extracted and used intact (bit-for-bit).

Oh yeah... I think I remember now. Thanks too JD for your comments. I think what the deal was before when I asked was that I was making a BD9 and I THINK what was said was, as you mention above, I need to uncheck the 'Strict AVCHD' But, now that I think of it, I don't think I've compiled episodes on a full BD25 before, so probably what you say is right, I just need the 'Do not convert DTS to AC3' box checked (I always leave the keep HD audio checked for Blu-rays anyway) and that should work.

Heh, I tried it anyway, and the bloody thing would have taken like over 25 hours, so I just cancelled it. I was TRYING to take 10 4 Gig episodes and compress them down to a BD25, which I've not done before. I guess that just takes a CRAPLOAD of time to do properly, so I don't suppose I will be doing that now...

Thanks though!

[omegaman7]

Heh, I tried it anyway, and the bloody thing would have taken like over 25 hours, so I just cancelled it. I was TRYING to take 10 4 Gig episodes and compress them down to a BD25, which I've not done before. I guess that just takes a CRAPLOAD of time to do properly, so I don't suppose I will be doing that now...

Thanks though!

Number of frames/run time will play a role in the total encode time ;) I've done compression like that in the past with anime. Anime is HIGHLY compressible. Given the simple color space ;)

[gamete]

Sorry @jdobbs can you reply at. http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1768976&postcount=24266 ?

[MrVideo]

Heh, I tried it anyway, and the bloody thing would have taken like over 25 hours, so I just cancelled it. I was TRYING to take 10 4 Gig episodes and compress them down to a BD25

Ya, that makes sense. I do a lot of x264 encoding and the amount of time per re-encode would be about the number of hours you mention, if I were to do 10 of them.

[Tenker]

@jdobbs

I find your software super :thanks:
and want for converting video files into one * .H264 fixed bit rate of
- 10000 kbps avg Bitrate
- and without creating the BD structure

So I need at the end of the conversion ONLY * .H264 file.

Can I edit something to achieve this?

Thank you and best regards
tenker

FOUND (http://club.myce.com/f32/bd-rebuilder-guide-conversion-blu-ray-other-formats-326975/) -> but how do I change the bit rate to 10000 kbps?

http://www2.pic-upload.de/thumb/30820685/Image1.jpg (http://www.pic-upload.de/view-30820685/Image1.jpg.html)

Found -> ...\BD_Rebuilder\Misc\alternate.txt

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
My source disc has 1 feature (37GB) and 1 Extra (5GB)
I selected "full backup" with "Use Quicker for Extras" (QUICK_EXTRAS=1 in the .ini). Nevertheless the Extra gets encoded 2-pass like the feature.
Did you change anything, or do I miss something?

[omegaman7]

@jdobbs
My source disc has 1 feature (37GB) and 1 Extra (5GB)
I selected "full backup" with "Use Quicker for Extras" (QUICK_EXTRAS=1 in the .ini). Nevertheless the Extra gets encoded 2-pass like the feature.
Did you change anything, or do I miss something?

I've seen that happen several times. Haven't been bothered enough to say something.

[jdobbs]

BD-RB does it's best to try and identify extras -- but it's not perfect. There's no "I'm an extra" flag anywhere on a BD disc. There are a few things it looks at -- and a 5GB threshold is one of them.

[omegaman7]

BD-RB does it's best to try and identify extras -- but it's not perfect. There's no "I'm an extra" flag anywhere on a BD disc. There are a few things it looks at -- and a 5GB threshold is one of them.

Perhaps you could implement a way so that we can intervene. A check-mark for instance.
Certainly no rush on it here. Seems like it's been mentioned before, but due to certain complexities, it was more a back burner idea ;)

[gamete]

@jdobbs why can not you reply to me ? :(

[Sharc]

BD-RB does it's best to try and identify extras -- but it's not perfect. There's no "I'm an extra" flag anywhere on a BD disc. There are a few things it looks at -- and a 5GB threshold is one of them.
I understand. In my case it is probably due to the 5GB Extra, which is indeed quite big for an Extra.

P.S.
The improved CRF prediction works very well, and so does the kick-in for a 2nd pass when the CRF encode - in very rare cases - happens to exceed the target size. Very nice! :)

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs why can not you reply to me ? :(I replied several times -- but it seemed that every time I replied it resulted in you asking two more questions. I gave up. You have 11 posts of questions in the last two pages of his thread. In fact, this is the third time you've asked this question.

[gamete]

I replied several times -- but it seemed that every time I replied it resulted in you asking two more questions. I gave up.



I asked you if my setting in FFDshow are correct

I have not received a reply
Thanks anyway

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1768976&postcount=24266

[jdobbs]

I asked you if my setting in FFDshow are correct

I have not received a reply
Thanks anyway

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1768976&postcount=24266And that was a follow-up to about 5 or 6 earlier questions -- to all of which I had responded.

[gamete]

And that was a follow-up to about 5 or 6 earlier questions -- to all of which I had responded.



You have reply at this post
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768966#post1768966

In this post i asked you if the setting of FFDSHOW is correct
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1768976&postcount=24266

Thanks

[jdobbs]

Of course that would be ignoring a few others:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768898#post1768898
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768921#post1768921
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768903#post1768903
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768966#post1768966
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768947#post1768947
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768949#post1768949
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768966#post1768966
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768967#post1768967
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768971#post1768971
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768972#post1768972
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768974#post1768974
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1768976#post1768976
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769024#post1769024
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769121#post1769121
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769178#post1769178
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769188#post1769188
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769190#post1769190
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769191#post1769191
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1769193#post1769193

This is just in the last three pages of the thread.

[gonca]

@Lathe
(I always leave the keep HD audio checked for Blu-rays anyway)
deselect this option and see if it speeds things up

[Lathe]

@Lathe

deselect this option and see if it speeds things up

Hmmm, interesting idea... I might try that. Thanks!

[jdobbs]

@Lathe

deselect this option and see if it speeds things upI don't see why it would?

[MrVideo]

I don't see why it would?

I do not see how it would either. The audio is just copied (when not doing DTS-HD -> AC3), the video is what is getting recoded.

[gamete]

Have i set correctly FFDSHOW ?
http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1070286_Nuovaimmaginebitmap.jpg.html


for win7 i must set VC1 "libavcodec" like a mpeg2 or wm9 ?

Thanks

[varekai]

Have i set correctly FFDSHOW ?
http://www.imagestime.com/imageshow.php/1070286_Nuovaimmaginebitmap.jpg.html
for win7 i must set VC1 "libavcodec" like a mpeg2 or wm9 ?
Thanks

I think your good to go! Your settings looks just fine.
Time to let BDRB do it's magic. :D

Here's images from my setup in Win7
http://imgur.com/a/7qbJc

[gonca]

I don't see why it would?
Keeping the HD Audio leaves less space for video, and BD_RB might be using a higher quality setting (slower) for the encoding

[gamete]

I think your good to go! Your settings looks just fine.
Time to let BDRB do it's magic. :D

Here's images from my setup in Win7
http://imgur.com/a/7qbJc


But jdobbs write

"If you installed HAALI/FFDSHOW< Setup VC-1 decoding in the same way you did MPEG-2 in step 2B. For Vista or Windows 7+ using "Video Decoder Configuration" -- select "wmv9".

So for win7 i must set VC1 "libavcodec" like a mpeg2 or wm9 ?

THANKS