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jdobbs
2nd September 2021, 15:12
Here is the log:
[08:18:15] Importing: Movie-HEVC-HDR
- [08:18:35] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Correcting MKV format inconsistencies...
- Scanning for Variable Frame Rate...
- Collecting audio/video streams from source...
- Converting source to compliant format...
- Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [09:54:50] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
- Encoding menu background...
- Building menu structure...
[09:54:54] Video import completed successfully.
Because of the above issue with converting E-AC3 5.1 to AC3-2.0, I used VideoReDo to recode the audio to AC3-5.1 and wrapped into MKV. The source was HEVC HDR @23.976.

The "Converting source to compliant format" resulted in a H264 video at 59.94 fps at ~twice the original size (22.5GB to 48GB). Totally useless. No idea why it thought the source was not a compliant video. The config INI file is basically the same one used for creating the Castle HEVC BDs.The only difference is that it points to the source path of the movie file.

UPDATE: For some reason, BDRB does not like what VideoReDo does with the video portion of the file, either MKV wrapped or TS wrapped. So, I took the original file into TSMuxer and removed the audio. I then added the VRD file and removed the video and remuxed it in a TS file. BDRB liked that, not complaining that it wasn't compliant.It's converting it because the file you are importing is screwed up. Complain to whereever you got the file. BD-RB can only work with what you give it.

1. First you tell me how it doesn't open the files properly -- only to find out you were using the import rather than selecting a source on the main screen.
2. Next you complain that a setting doesn't work -- and you aren't even typing the setting in properly.
3. Now you try to import a file that has issues, and somehow decide it is BD-RB's fault because it can't fix your screwed up file.

I'm getting a little fed up with your attitude. If you find BD-RB to not meet your needs... you should use something else. I'm not getting any of these types of complaints from the thousands of other users. It's one thing to create freeware and fix bugs -- it's another to have to listen to people rudely complain and say things like "the hits keep on commin'" or "this is becoming a PITA" or "totally useless" or you "lost about an hour". How many hours have I "lost" writing software for people (like you) who don't appreciate it?

I have no idea why I am still even supporting a software package that hasn't even gotten a single dollar in donations in the past 6 months. Maybe it's better to just stop.

MrVideo
2nd September 2021, 21:27
It isn't MENU_FORCED_QUICK. It is MENU_FORCE_QUICK (no "D").
Typo in the posting. In the INI file, it is FORCE.

UPDATE: While working on my next UHD-BD project, I decided to import just one file. When I clicked on backup, it went into MOVIE-ONLY mode. I then removed UHD_CONVERT_ENABLE from the INI file and did the import again. When I clicked backup, MOVIE-ONLY mode was not done. It did as expected and when done, the menu was there. The only thing that was weird was that the single video file was recoded, even though it was under 2GB and would fit the BD25 disc.

I hope this helps find the issue.

MrVideo
3rd September 2021, 02:14
It's converting it because the file you are importing is screwed up. Complain to whereever you got the file. BD-RB can only work with what you give it.
The programmers at VideoReDo take pride is trying to get their outputs to be correct. I have no clue as to what BDRB thinks is wrong with the re-wrapped HEVC video file. VRD did yout recode the video. All it does is copy the input to the output. Obviously something is being done with the support data for HEVC. As remuxing with TSMuxer didn't have an issue with BDRB. If I knew what was wrong, I would let the VRD staff know, so that they could look into it. But, what was really bad about the BDRB fix was that it recoded the HEVC video into an H.264 video, at about twice the size. No idea why doing that would be considered fixing the video.
1. First you tell me how it doesn't open the files properly -- only to find out you were using the import rather than selecting a source on the main screen.
Because that was not intuitively obvious. I've PM'd you what I think would be a help in making it more intuitive. But, I suspect that my idea will be ignored. I also suspect the other couple of long standing issues won't be resolved either (posts 30824/30825).
2. Next you complain that a setting doesn't work -- and you aren't even typing the setting in properly
Which setting is that? If you mean MENU_FORCE_QUICK, that has been explained above, with some troubleshooting info to help track down the issue.
3. Now you try to import a file that has issues, and somehow decide it is BD-RB's fault because it can't fix your screwed up file.
See above.

It is not my intent to be rude.
I have no idea why I am still even supporting a software package that hasn't even gotten a single dollar in donations in the past 6 months. Maybe it's better to just stop.
I have no idea why users are not contributing. As you well know, I did.

geheim
4th September 2021, 14:24
@jdobbs
Just sent you a little donation with many thanks for this fantastic piece of software :)

jdobbs
4th September 2021, 19:14
@jdobbs
Just sent you a little donation with many thanks for this fantastic piece of software :)Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

jdobbs
4th September 2021, 19:18
The programmers at VideoReDo take pride is trying to get their outputs to be correct. I have no clue as to what BDRB thinks is wrong with the re-wrapped HEVC video file.Did the programmers at VideoReDo tell you to create or use a file with a variable frame rate? A BD structure cannot accept a video stream that uses a variable frame rate -- and it is forced to be reencoded.Because that was not intuitively obvious.It seems to be intuitively obvious to everyone but you. BD Rebuilder has been opening files that way since 2008 -- and you're the first person who has ever had any problem with it.

jdobbs
4th September 2021, 22:53
The "Use 192kbs and 2 channel for AC3 encoding" is not selected. Neither is 448kbs for multichannel not selected. No ALTERNATE either.Yes, it does. See http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1946941#post1946941
(and, no, I have never told it to do so). In that (and certain other) case(s), I used Handbrake to re-encode and got 5.1 DD from it (see the unapproved attachments on that post), which I then tsMuXer -ed back onto the BDRB encoded video..Can't imagine how that could happen... but I'll do some testing and see what I find. Interesting that it only happens with EAC3. I looked at the code for the reencode of EAC3 during import. The encode is being handled using DirectShowSource() directly accessing the EAC3 file. In most of the other cases requiring audio reencodes, the source is muxed into an MKV first and then the MKV is fed to DirectshowSource(). So it may be something related to DirectShowSource() reading the EAC3 file directly.

The bitrate indicates that BD-RB is seeing the proper channel configuration -- so I have to assume that DirectshowSource() is having trouble interpreting directly from that file (somehow mixing up the channels). I'll do some testing to see if I can find an EAC3 source that gets screwed up on my system. I don't think I've seen this happen -- so that's probably a long shot. There are ways to tell DirectshowSource to convert to DD2.0. Perhaps that may be involved in the issue somehow? If I can repeat the problem, I will try running it using MKV muxing first to see if that fixes it. If I can't repeat it, I may rely on one of you to do some testing with a test version of BD-RB and give me feedback.

If BD-RB encounters E-AC3 during a regular encode, any reencoding (or keeping intact of non-HD) would be done against the core audio. No telling what would happen if someone created the source without core audio -- but since the core audio is required by the BD standard, that would be considered a damaged source and BD-RB would not be at fault.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 00:25
Did the programmers at VideoReDo tell you to create or use a file with a variable frame rate? A BD structure cannot accept a video stream that uses a variable frame rate -- and it is forced to be reencoded.
The file does not have a variable frame rate. The file fed into VRD, according to MediaInfo, is constant frame rate (23.976), as well as the file that is output from VRD. VRD copies the input to the output, no recoding was done. All I used VRD for was to convert the DDPlus to DD.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 01:02
It seems to be intuitively obvious to everyone but you. BD Rebuilder has been opening files that way since 2008 -- and you're the first person who has ever had any problem with it.
Intuitive to me steps:
1. Mode: Full Backup
2. Need to import BD content for the backup: Import->BD(s)
The "Quick Reauthor" should have been a clue. Browsing for the BD was not obvious, as everything else is done via a pull-down menu option.

So, maybe in the Import-> list, add two options at the top:
BD - Full Backup
DVD - Full Backup
When Full Backp mode is not selected, those two options are greyed out.

Just a thought.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 01:04
IIf I can't repeat it, I may rely on one of you to do some testing with a test version of BD-RB and give me feedback.
Can do. I still have the source that had the issue, so I'll hang onto it.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 02:56
If BD-RB encounters E-AC3 during a regular encode, any reencoding (or keeping intact of non-HD) would be done against the core audio. No telling what would happen if someone created the source without core audio -- but since the core audio is required by the BD standard, that would be considered a damaged source and BD-RB would not be at fault.
Just for shits-n-grins, I tried to take the file I was using and used TSmuxer to create a new 00001.M2TS file to replace the one in the IMPORTS directory. With the DDPlus audio stream, it resulted in the BD structure that was 25MB too large. So, I used a different, smaller 4K file with DDPlus and TSMuxer'd it. TSMuxer said that there was 0 core. The audio was also 768k, so it couldn't be plain old AC3. I burned that to disc and played it in my Sony X800M2 player, which feeds a Denon AVR.

It played just fine, with the AVR front panel indicating DD+. It seems that newer gear will play coreless DDPlus just fine, as long as the AVR will handle DDPlus.

Maybe a hidden option to keep DD+ audio. Doesn't preclude figuring out what is going on for those whose gear can't handle DD+.

jellyhead1
5th September 2021, 07:20
Just for shits-n-grins

Apparently you feel this is retail software which you paid for - It isn't. I sppose if this amazing software which you are using for FREE isn't working properly, then you could just create you own that works how you need it to.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 08:57
Apparently you feel this is retail software which you paid for - It isn't. I sppose if this amazing software which you are using for FREE isn't working properly, then you could just create you own that works how you need it to.
I have contributed to jdobbs. What I did was a test to help out the the DD+ issue.

gonca
5th September 2021, 12:22
TSMuxer said that there was 0 core.
You realize this is not BD spec compliant
And BD_RB is supposed to produce spec compliant output

jdobbs
5th September 2021, 13:19
Maybe a hidden option to keep DD+ audio. Doesn't preclude figuring out what is going on for those whose gear can't handle DD+.That would be creating a file that is in violation of the standard. That just causes other issues further down the road. For example -- what if you then took that file, a year or two later, and ran it through another software package (or BD Rebuilder) that assumes there is a core (because it is required). Then any problems encountered from it would be BD-RB's fault (for creating a noncompliant disc).

Add to that the frustration of when you loan that disc to your know-it-all-brother-in-law, and he rolls his eyes at you when there is no sound on his player.

SeeMoreDigital
5th September 2021, 13:31
It's a bit of a shame that 'eac3to.exe' is unable to place an AC-3 core within an E-AC-3 stream, like it can with Dolby TrueHD streams...

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 14:04
That would be creating a file that is in violation of the standard. That just causes other issues further down the road. For example -- what if you then took that file, a year or two later, and ran it through another software package (or BD Rebuilder) that assumes there is a core (because it is required). Then any problems encountered from it would be BD-RB's fault (for creating a noncompliant disc).
Since I created it, I would know that it was not totally compliant, as I would make note on the disc/paperwork. But, that is me. Who knows what someone else would do.
Add to that the frustration of when you loan that disc to your know-it-all-brother-in-law, and he rolls his eyes at you when there is no sound on his player.
That would be a real neat trick. Maybe I have a sister in another reality. :eek: The only person who gets anything from me is a friend and he recently upgraded to the same BD player and a newer Denon AVR.

But, I get your point.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 14:05
It's a bit of a shame that 'eac3to.exe' is unable to place an AC-3 core within an E-AC-3 stream, like it can with Dolby TrueHD streams...
Yes, it is strange. It seems that no one can.

MrVideo
5th September 2021, 14:08
Interesting. I've been going through files with E-AC3 audio, trying to find one that would create the issue (no luck yet). While doing so, I ran across one that Media Player Classic HC says is E-AC3@768Kbs, but the version of MEDIAINFO included with BD-RB thinks it is standard AC3@640Kbs. I downloaded a newer version of MEDIAINFO and it recognized it (properly) as E-AC3. I wonder if this is related to the problem? BD-RB uses MEDIAINFO during imports to get information about the file to be imported.
As an added data point, I ran the file thru BDRB's mediainfo and got the following appropriate data:
Count of video streams : 1
Count of audio streams : 1
Count of text streams : 1
Video_Format_List : HEVC
Video_Format_WithHint_List : HEVC
Codecs Video : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Video_Language_List : English
Audio_Format_List : E-AC-3
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : E-AC-3
Audio codecs : AC3+
Audio_Language_List : English

Audio
Count : 296
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 0
StreamOrder : 1
ID : 2
ID : 2
Unique ID : 6776555949728184569
Format : E-AC-3
Format/Info : Enhanced Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : E-AC-3
Format profile : E-AC-3+Atmos / E-AC-3
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Internet media type : audio/eac3
Codec ID : A_EAC3
Codec : AC3+
Codec : AC3+
Codec/Family : AC3
Codec/Info : Dolby Ehanced AC3
Codec profile : E-AC-3+Atmos / E-AC-3
Duration : 7638784
Duration : 2 h 7 min
Duration : 2 h 7 min 18 s 784 ms
Duration : 2 h 7 min
Duration : 02:07:18.784
Duration : 02:07:18.784
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 768000
Bit rate : 768 kb/s
Channel(s) : 15 objects / 6
Channel(s) : 15 objects / 6 channels
Channel positions : 15 objects / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Channel positions : 15 objects / 3/2/0.1
ChannelLayout : L C R LFE Ls Rs
Samples per frame : 256
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Samples count : 366661632
Frame rate : 187.500
Frame rate : 187.500 FPS (256 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay : 0
Delay : 00:00:00.000
Delay, origin : Container
Delay, origin : Container
Delay relative to video : 0
Delay relative to video : 00:00:00.000
Video0 delay : 0
Video0 delay : 00:00:00.000
Stream size : 733323264
Stream size : 699 MiB (3%)
Stream size : 699 MiB
Stream size : 699 MiB
Stream size : 699 MiB
Stream size : 699.4 MiB
Stream size : 699 MiB (3%)
Proportion of this stream : 0.03065
Title : English
Language : en
Language : English
Language : English
Language : en
Language : eng
Language : en
Service kind : CM
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Default : No
Forced : No
Forced : No
bsid : 16
dialnorm : -27
dialnorm : -27 dB
compr : -0.28
compr : -0.28 dB
acmod : 7
lfeon : 1
dialnorm_Average : -27
dialnorm_Average : -27 dB
dialnorm_Minimum : -27
dialnorm_Minimum : -27 dB
dialnorm_Maximum : -27
dialnorm_Maximum : -27 dB
dialnorm_Count : 872
compr_Average : 1.23
compr_Average : 1.23 dB
compr_Minimum : 0.53
compr_Minimum : 0.53 dB
compr_Maximum : 2.36
compr_Maximum : 2.36 dB
compr_Count : 106
In other words, it was detected correctly.

jdobbs
5th September 2021, 14:12
As an added data point, I ran the file thru BDRB's mediainfo and got the following appropriate data:
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In other words, it was detected correctly.Weird. I tried it too. Last night it detected it wrong. This morning it detected it right. Oh well... I must have made a mistake last night. Ignore that post.

[EDIT] Hah! I had run it against the wrong file. As Rosanne Rosannadanna has said "Never mind."

I deleted that post, just to avoid confusion.

MrVideo
6th September 2021, 01:48
Sorry for the delay in running the test, but after the creation of the directory in the IMPORTS area, the converted audio is still 2 channels.

As another test, I took a completely different file and ran it thru the same configuration and ended up with the same result: stereo.

jdobbs
6th September 2021, 18:58
Sorry for the delay in running the test, but after the creation of the directory in the IMPORTS area, the converted audio is still 2 channels.

As another test, I took a completely different file and ran it thru the same configuration and ended up with the same result: stereo.I'm looking at something else. I'll let you know what I find.

[Edit] Nope. Back to not being able to repeat the issue.

Can you run INSPECT from the HELP menu and post the results?

jdobbs
6th September 2021, 20:22
Sorry for the delay in running the test, but after the creation of the directory in the IMPORTS area, the converted audio is still 2 channels.

As another test, I took a completely different file and ran it thru the same configuration and ended up with the same result: stereo.Can you check something for me.

1. Click on the Windows Icon on the bottom of your screen.
2. Scroll down to LAV Filters. Click on it.
3. Click on LAV Audio Configuration
4. In the Properties Window that comes up. Click on the "Mixing" tab
5. See if the "Enable Mixing" checkbox is checked.
6. If it is checked... uncheck it and push the "Apply" button.

If that box is checked on my system, I can repeat your issue. But, of course, that's because LAV is configured to downmix.

MrVideo
7th September 2021, 00:49
Can you check something for me.

1. Click on the Windows Icon on the bottom of your screen.

I'm running Win7-64, so I do not have such an icon on my system. I have the Start icon on the lower-left.

I tried to google LAV filters and no one, that I found, explains how to bring up the configuration dialog window, only how to deal with the settings.

I found where the LAV Filters are installed, but there is no program to bring up the configuration dialog.

UPDATE: I did a little more digging on my system and went into FFDshow, under the programs location. In there was the program to bring up the configuration. Mixing was selected. I unchecked it and reran the job. The output was now 5.1.

Maybe a little note about not enabling the audio mixer when installing the software and certainly not setting it later on.

@RetsimLegin: hopefully this will fix your issue as well.

FreaQ
10th September 2021, 14:06
Does BD-RE support DV and HFR?
Because I am getting the following error with an UHD.

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[09.10.21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.22
[14:49:21] Source:
- Input BD size: 24,02 GB
- Approximate total content: [00:45:18.176]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), 1-Pass VBR
- UHD-BD source detected.
- Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:49:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:49:21] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 24)
- [14:49:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [14:49:25] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [14:49:25] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [14:49:25] Processing audio tracks
- [14:49:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [14:49:28] Processing: VID_00001 (2 of 24)
- Error: Video framerate is illegal/unknown.
[14:49:28] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

VID_0001 has DV and 60fps according to MediaInfo.

SeeMoreDigital
10th September 2021, 14:27
Does BD-RE support DV and HFR?
Because I am getting the following error with an UHD.



VID_0001 has DV and 60fps according to MediaInfo.What's the movie?

FreaQ
10th September 2021, 14:41
It's a Dolby demo disc.

gonca
10th September 2021, 22:39
[14:49:28] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
What is the audio type, and does it have a core?

MrVideo
10th September 2021, 22:58
Please, don't use QUOTE, use CODE. The reason is that the quote isn't included in a quoted post.
Does BD-RE support DV and HFR?
Because I am getting the following error with an UHD.
VID_0001 has DV and 60fps according to MediaInfo.
- Error: Video framerate is illegal/unknown.
[14:49:28] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
I didn't know that Dolby made a UHD disc at 60fps. It seems that BDRB agrees. IMHO, the audio error is a result of having issues with the video and therefore is a red herring.

Edit: I just looked on ebay and there is a disc that contains 60p, 25p and 24p video. Interesting.

gonca
10th September 2021, 23:19
I have a UHD which has a frame of 60 fps, might be a Dolby type (don't remember off the top of my head)
As far as the audio issue being a red herring, with your recent streak with audio (improperly configured apps) maybe you should consider the possibility
Maybe demo files are not totally BD compliant
This movie
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemini-Man-4K-Blu-ray/252674/
Yep, DV + Atmos.

MrVideo
11th September 2021, 04:38
As far as the audio issue being a red herring, with your recent streak with audio (improperly configured apps) maybe you should consider the possibility
Keep in mind that at least two of us reported the audio issue and it had jdobbs stumped for quite a while.

FreaQ
11th September 2021, 08:51
Here is the MediaInfo

General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : E:\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
CompleteName_Last : E:\BDMV\STREAM\00025.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 24.0 GiB
Duration : 2 min 55 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 175 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate : 109 Mb/s

Video #1
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : 36
Duration : 2 min 54 s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 7386 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 493 cd/m2

Video #2
ID : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : 36
Duration : 2 min 54 s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Duration : 2 min 54 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 7 563 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 13.3 MiB (0%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects : 15
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : E-AC-3 JOC
Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
Format profile : Blu-ray Disc
Format settings : Dolby Surround EX
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 132
Duration : 2 min 54 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 664 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 34.7 MiB (0%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Complexity index : 16
Number of dynamic objects : 15
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2 min 54 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 13.3 MiB (0%)
Service kind : Complete Main

MrVideo
11th September 2021, 09:34
Here is the MediaInfo

Video #2
Duration : 2 min 54 s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 60.000 FPS

I believe that this is the DV portion of the video. I have an issue with DV video as well, which I have reported. I could be why the job failed.

jdobbs
14th September 2021, 13:50
Does BD-RE support DV and HFR?
Because I am getting the following error with an UHD.
...
VID_0001 has DV and 60fps according to MediaInfo.I believe that this is the DV portion of the video. I have an issue with DV video as well, which I have reported. I could be why the job failed.Prior to the extensions associated with the BD-UHD standard, 60fps was only allowed on 720p sources (actually 59.94fps). Now with UHD it is also allowed on 2160p and 1080p HEVC sources (60fps, 59.94fps, and 50fps). BD-RB hasn't been adjusted to accomodate the higher frame rates. It hadn't come up as an issue before now. In fact, I'd be surprised if it is used anywhere other than a demo disc. I'll have to look at it and see how much work it will entail and then put the necessary changes in my "to do" list.

gonca
14th September 2021, 22:33
Prior to the extensions associated with the BD-UHD standard, 60fps was only allowed on 720p sources (actually 59.94fps). Now with UHD it is also allowed on 2160p and 1080p HEVC sources (60fps, 59.94fps, and 50fps). BD-RB hasn't been adjusted to accomodate the higher frame rates. It hadn't come up as an issue before now. In fact, I'd be surprised if it is used anywhere other than a demo disc. I'll have to look at it and see how much work it will entail and then put the necessary changes in my "to do" list.
Gemini Man and possibly another movie are 4K 60fps movies

FreaQ
15th September 2021, 06:28
ow with UHD it is also allowed on 2160p and 1080p HEVC sources (60fps, 59.94fps, and 50fps). BD-RB hasn't been adjusted to accomodate the higher frame rates. It hadn't come up as an issue before now. In fact, I'd be surprised if it is used anywhere other than a demo disc. I'll have to look at it and see how much work it will entail and then put the necessary changes in my "to do" list.

Nevertheless the outcome

:thanks:

FreaQ
15th September 2021, 06:35
Gemini Man and possibly another movie are 4K 60fps movies

Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemini-Man-4K-Blu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy-Lynns-Long-Halftime-Walk-4K-and-3D-Blu-ray/166477/

SeeMoreDigital
15th September 2021, 09:10
Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemini-Man-4K-Blu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy-Lynns-Long-Halftime-Walk-4K-and-3D-Blu-ray/166477/
Agreed... There are not many HFR 4K Blu-ray releases. Probably way too few to force any major changes to BD Rebuilder ;)

If anyone is interested there is/was a brief discussion (very brief) about HFR movies over on the Blu-ray Forum (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=325690).

Out of interest... Did anybody here have a AVCHD 2.0 camcorder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD#Specifications) that could capture 1920x1080p50/60 AVC video?

Cheers

cartman0208
15th September 2021, 10:13
Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemini-Man-4K-Blu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy-Lynns-Long-Halftime-Walk-4K-and-3D-Blu-ray/166477/

I did convert both disks with BDRB to a 50GB target without issues
They play fine in my Panasonic player.
Guess there is no need to adjust anything

Emulgator
15th September 2021, 23:35
Out of interest... Did anybody here have a AVCHD 2.0 camcorder that could capture 1920x1080p50/60 AVC video?
I have a Panasonic GH5 and for 98% of shots I decided indeed for AVCHD 2.0 1920x1080x50p,
besides a few attempts at 4K@25p in .mov.
The GH5 Micro 4/3 sensor isn't really worth 4K, but its HFR is very nice to have.
Most projects of mine end up as Blu-ray 1280x720x50p.
The result after stabilizing/framing fits the camera sensor capabilities well and is buttersmooth.

SeeMoreDigital
16th September 2021, 12:23
I have a Panasonic GH5 and for 98% of shots I decided indeed for AVCHD 2.0 1920x1080x50p...
Interesting... If you have the time I would be most grateful in having a short sample of some vehicles in motion, contained within the native AVCHD file folder structure ;)

jdobbs
17th September 2021, 13:40
Yes, Gemini Man has 60fps
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Gemini-Man-4K-Blu-ray/252674/

Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk has 60fps, too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Billy-Lynns-Long-Halftime-Walk-4K-and-3D-Blu-ray/166477/So I should spend hours of work to support two movies and a demo disc?

Like I said, I've added it to my to-do list. But it isn't a high priority.

Emulgator
18th September 2021, 14:59
I would be most grateful in having a short sample of some vehicles in motion, contained within the native AVCHD file folder structure.
Will shoot a short traffic scene soon.

FreaQ
18th September 2021, 15:00
So I should spend hours of work to support two movies and a demo disc?

Like I said, I've added it to my to-do list. But it isn't a high priority.

I never said that.
My post was just informational.
If you decide it is too much work and you won't support it, I respect that.

cartman0208
18th September 2021, 16:30
So I should spend hours of work to support two movies and a demo disc?

Like I said, I've added it to my to-do list. But it isn't a high priority.

As I mentioned before ... BDRB handles HFR just fine (at least with my settings):
[09.15.21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.22
[10:58:45] Source: GEMINI_MAN
- Input BD size: 86,10 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:17:58.350]
- Target BD size: 47,36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), CQM
- UHD-BD source detected.
- Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[10:58:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:58:47] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 3)
- [10:58:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [10:58:53] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 528 frames
- [10:58:53] Performing CQM Prediction...
- Analyzing 17,25 21,70 23,30 23,70 [23,75]
- [10:59:16] Encoding using constant quality mode.
- [10:59:26] Video Encode complete
- [10:59:26] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [10:59:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:59:30] Processing: VID_00003 (2 of 3)
- [10:59:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [11:13:47] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 420.962 frames
- [11:13:47] Performing CQM Prediction...
- Analyzing 1,00 18,20 19,70 21,00 22,30 23,40 24,30 25,05 25,60 25,95 26,15 [26,20]
- [11:23:54] Encoding using constant quality mode.
- [12:42:45] Video Encode complete
- [12:42:45] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- Track 4354 (deu): Keeping original audio
- [12:42:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:45:07] Processing: VID_00579 (3 of 3)
- [12:45:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00579]
- [12:45:26] Reencoding video [VID_00579]
- Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160
- Rate/Length: 59,940fps, 10.940 frames
- [12:45:27] Performing CQM Prediction...
- Analyzing 1,00 [8,15]
- [12:45:33] Encoding using constant quality mode.
- Performing size-correcting second pass...
- [12:49:36] Video Encode complete
- [12:49:36] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
- [12:49:37] Multiplexing M2TS
[12:49:42]PHASE ONE complete
[12:49:42]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:49:42] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:50:10] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:50:10] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
- GEMINI_MAN folder removed.
[12:53:36] JOB: GEMINI_MAN finished.

Must be something odd with that DEMO disc

I'd love to see more movies in HFR ... on a big screen with 4K thats just a stunning experience.

MrVideo
18th September 2021, 21:50
As I mentioned before ... BDRB handles HFR just fine (at least with my settings):

Must be something odd with that DEMO disc
Yes, but is it HFR with DV? From what I saw it wasn't. The demo disc has a separate DV video file. I think that is the issue. I have run into an issue with a normal frame rate movie that has a separate DV video file and it failed.

gonca
19th September 2021, 02:36
Gemini Man has DV

MrVideo
19th September 2021, 08:11
OK, let me rephrase the question... does it have a separate DV video file?

gonca
19th September 2021, 13:07
OK, let me rephrase the question... does it have a separate DV video file?

Do you mean a separate track for DV?

MrVideo
19th September 2021, 13:59
Sorry, yes.