BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[gonca]

@jdobbs and Mark_Venture
Testing the Ninja Turtle movie right now
Seems to be encoding fine

[gonca]

@jdobbs and Mark_Venture
quick encode of Ninja Turtle movie
All is good

[11/07/16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.18
[16:12:42] Source: TMNT_2_OUT_OF_THE_SHADOWS_00800
- Input BD size: 29.28 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:52:07.595]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- AVS Filtering is enabled
- Mode: MKV, CRF, Intact Audio
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[16:12:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:12:42] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [16:12:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [16:17:15] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 161,301 frames
- [16:17:15] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- [16:38:43] Video Encode complete
- [16:38:43] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[16:38:43]PHASE ONE complete
[16:38:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:38:43] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[16:43:08] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[16:43:09] JOB: TMNT_2_OUT_OF_THE_SHADOWS finished.

[Status]
LABEL=TMNT_2_OUT_OF_THE_SHADOWS
VERSION=v0.50.18
SOURCE_SIZE=31443320832
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=31443320832
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.783681091817828
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=3
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=4
DGDECNV=-1
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00800]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=11000
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=24641536000
SPLITS=4
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[MrVideo]

The way it is supposed to work is that if the menu encode fails, you end up with a menu-less disc (it plays the disc titles sequentially). That doesn't seem to have worked in your case. I'll have to go back and check it.
Ah, OK. Correct. In this case, it locked up one player and just wouldn't play in the other two.

[Mark_Venture]

@jdobbs and Mark_Venture
Testing the Ninja Turtle movie right now
Seems to be encoding fineThanks for checking.

Now I guess its time to figure out what is going wrong with my system...

I just booted to my win10 partition.. and with 50.18, same INI, etc... and TMNT_2 worked.. So its got to be something with my Win 7 setup.

I guess I'll completely blow away my BDRB folder, and start it over.

[Lathe]

Either dvd-rb@jdobbs.net or dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com should both work. The other alternative is to PM the card number as in gonca's link.

Thanks.

Wow, I stay away for a couple of days and all kinds of great stuff happens! All right, good going whomever thought of that on the other thread from Toronto! (My Mom was born in Brandfort if I spelled that right...)

DAMN! That is awesome that we now FINALLY have a way to send JD something decent. Yeah, I get almost bloody EVERYTHING from Amazon, so that is a frigg'n great idea! :D

[jdobbs]

Thanks for checking.

Now I guess its time to figure out what is going wrong with my system...

I just booted to my win10 partition.. and with 50.18, same INI, etc... and TMNT_2 worked.. So its got to be something with my Win 7 setup.

I guess I'll completely blow away my BDRB folder, and start it over.Did you ever find out what was going on?

[Mark_Venture]

Did you ever find out what was going on?
Well.. No, but I got it working...

First I made a fresh new folder, unzipped 50.18 to it... When I started BDRB for the first time I got told about LAV not being configured, did I want to fix it? I said yes, It errored saying something like SetACL_x64 wasn't compatible with this version of Win 7. I got past that by copying the SetACL_x64 from my 50.17 folder. Trying an encode, it failed nearly immediately saying "Failed to retrieve audio, aborted." Again, 50.17 continued to perform just fine.

I verified FFDshow settings per the OP, even made sure what versions I was running, etc. Still 50.18 failed, but 50.17 continued to work.

Finally, I deleted all folders of 50.18 I made while trying to trouble shoot this. I unzipped again into a new "new folder." Again on first launch I got the LAV not configured.. I answered yes... and it didn't error. I manually setup my options and tried again with TMNT2, this time it worked.

While I've had issues upgrading in the past by just unzipping the new version on top of the old, in this case, I did that weeks ago (ok, month and a half?) and had been working fine. So I'm not sure why all of a sudden I ran into problems when I hadn't changed anything on BD-RB. And other than updates to windows, DVDFab Passkey, Nvidia Geforce drivers, and iTunes, I haven't changed anything on my Win 7 install or BD-Rebuilder since the end of September.

[gonca]

Well.. No, but I got it working...

First I made a fresh new folder, unzipped 50.18 to it... When I started BDRB for the first time I got told about LAV not being configured, did I want to fix it? I said yes, It errored saying something like SetACL_x64 wasn't compatible with this version of Win 7. I got past that by copying the SetACL_x64 from my 50.17 folder. Trying an encode, it failed nearly immediately saying "Failed to retrieve audio, aborted." Again, 50.17 continued to perform just fine.

I verified FFDshow settings per the OP, even made sure what versions I was running, etc. Still 50.18 failed, but 50.17 continued to work.

Finally, I deleted all folders of 50.18 I made while trying to trouble shoot this. I unzipped again into a new "new folder." Again on first launch I got the LAV not configured.. I answered yes... and it didn't error. I manually setup my options and tried again with TMNT2, this time it worked.

While I've had issues upgrading in the past by just unzipping the new version on top of the old, in this case, I did that weeks ago (ok, month and a half?) and had been working fine. So I'm not sure why all of a sudden I ran into problems when I hadn't changed anything on BD-RB. And other than updates to windows, DVDFab Passkey, Nvidia Geforce drivers, and iTunes, I haven't changed anything on my Win 7 install or BD-Rebuilder since the end of September.

Use win7dsfiltertweaker to see what filters you are using and then compare to when you start having issues

http://www.videohelp.com/software/Preferred-Filter-Tweaker

[Yordan5]

My OS is Win 7 64bit with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 graphics card. When shrinking BD movies I always use the "Highest (very slow)" encoder setting. This worked just fine with all versions of BD RB and on average took 3 to 4 hours to complete (movie only). For some reason with the lates build of BD RB (0.50.18) the processing time doubled. It now takes overnight to do the same job. I tried clean install of everything, tried it on freshly installed OS, tried with and without LAV filters and Matroska splitter installed but it still takes more than 8 hours to complete a job that would previously take 50% less time. Is there a known issue that I need to be aware of and also is there a solution that would reduce the Reencoding time to previous levels?

[jdobbs]

My OS is Win 7 64bit with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 graphics card. When shrinking BD movies I always use the "Highest (very slow)" encoder setting. This worked just fine with all versions of BD RB and on average took 3 to 4 hours to complete (movie only). For some reason with the lates build of BD RB (0.50.18) the processing time doubled. It now takes overnight to do the same job. I tried clean install of everything, tried it on freshly installed OS, tried with and without LAV filters and Matroska splitter installed but it still takes more than 8 hours to complete a job that would previously take 50% less time. Is there a known issue that I need to be aware of and also is there a solution that would reduce the Reencoding time to previous levels?Are you using X264's internal LAVF as your decoding option? If so, see this link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1779038#post1779038) and associated posts.

[Yordan5]

Are you using X264's internal LAVF as your decoding option? If so, see this link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1779038#post1779038) and associated posts.

I am using whatever BD RB (downloaded from page 1) comes with. Sounds like for the time I will have to accept slower processing speeds.

[jdobbs]

I am using whatever BD RB (downloaded from page 1) comes with. Sounds like for the time I will have to accept slower processing speeds.Not necessarily. From within BD-RB go to the SETUP page (Settings/Setup) and report what is checked under "Decoding/Frame Serving Options". The default changes based upon how your system is configured.

[mparade]

Will BD-RB support quicktime codecs to import? My projects include DNxHD 1080p 10-bit (50fps progressive) 4:2:2 output files coming directly from the editor program. I would like to import and reencode them into mkv format using the power of x264 in BD-RB.

Thank you for the help.

[jdobbs]

Will BD-RB support quicktime codecs to import? My projects include DNxHD 1080p 10-bit (50fps progressive) 4:2:2 output files coming directly from the editor program. I would like to import and reencode them into mkv format using the power of x264 in BD-RB.

Thank you for the help.It would have to be a Blu-Ray compatible CODEC (MPEG-2, AVC, VC-1, or HEVC) to import without forced reencoding during import. It will also import XVID or DIVX and reencode to AVC during the import process.

The source would have to be in a supported container as well.

[Yordan5]

Not necessarily. From within BD-RB go to the SETUP page (Settings/Setup) and report what is checked under "Decoding/Frame Serving Options". The default changes based upon how your system is configured.

The checked options are:Use DEINTERLACER on..., Do not convert DTS to AC3, Do not reencode AC3, Keep HD Audio for BD25, Use X264's internal LAVF for frame serving, Strict AVCHD for BD-5/9

[jdobbs]

The checked options are:Use DEINTERLACER on..., Do not convert DTS to AC3, Do not reencode AC3, Keep HD Audio for BD25, Use X264's internal LAVF for frame serving, Strict AVCHD for BD-5/9 The boldfaced setting above is your problem. Select DirectshowSource instead. If you can't select it, then you're not configured properly -- go back to the instructions in the first post of this thread and uninstall/reinstall.

[MrVideo]

Will BD-RB support quicktime codecs to import? My projects include DNxHD 1080p 10-bit (50fps progressive) 4:2:2 output files coming directly from the editor program. I would like to import and reencode them into mkv format using the power of x264 in BD-RB.
You have a lot of things going against you: 1) DNxHD 2) 50fps 3) 4:2:2

But, ffmpeg has support for VC-3, so you should be able to directly use ffmpeg to recode to H.264. So, take a look at ffmpeg.

[Yordan5]

The boldfaced setting above is your problem. Select DirectshowSource instead. If you can't select it, then you're not configured properly -- go back to the instructions in the first post of this thread and uninstall/reinstall.

Did as you suggested: clean install and selected DirectshowSource. Unfortunatelly it is still taking almost 8 hrs to process a movie that would previously take no more than 4 hrs. Thank you for the time to try and help.

[jdobbs]

Did as you suggested: clean install and selected DirectshowSource. Unfortunatelly it is still taking almost 8 hrs to process a movie that would previously take no more than 4 hrs. Thank you for the time to try and help.Then I'm guessing you are still using X264/LAVF -- and if that is selected automatically you didn't install LAV Filters (or FFDSHOW) correctly.

[mparade]

You have a lot of things going against you: 1) DNxHD 2) 50fps 3) 4:2:2

But, ffmpeg has support for VC-3, so you should be able to directly use ffmpeg to recode to H.264. So, take a look at ffmpeg.

I will do that way. The second option would be to output from DaVinci in AVC format and then import that file to BD-RB, but that would be a "unnecessary" extra step that may degrade the quality even more. In these specific projects of mine I will use ffmpeg instead. :thanks:

[brunchto]

Hi,

I rip my 3D discs to m2ts with film only mode. BD -> FILM ONLY folder, get m2ts. it's the only way i find to rip br3D and play on my oppo.

on some films, left and right eyes are inverted (edge of tomorrow, The Jungle Book). on my tv, i can invert while playing, but i don't have the option on my projector.

is there a way to invert eyes at the creation of the backup?

[Blurayhd]

Hi guys, I have a Bluray copy on my hd of Alice Through the looking Glass 3D and I don´t have any system that support 3D, I mean, My Bluray player, My Led TV etc dont support 3D, so, I can see on BD rebullder settings the "Process 3D video sources as 2d for backup" so I encoded this movie and I tried it on my computer with Powerdvd and ask me for 3D

So I wonder if this option of Bd rebuilder is to convert the 3D to 2d? or what exactly does that function? and there´s some way to encode with Bd rebuilder the 3D to 2d?

Thank you for your time guys

[jdobbs]

Hi guys, I have a Bluray copy on my hd of Alice Through the looking Glass 3D and I don´t have any system that support 3D, I mean, My Bluray player, My Led TV etc dont support 3D, so, I can see on BD rebullder settings the "Process 3D video sources as 2d for backup" so I encoded this movie and I tried it on my computer with Powerdvd and ask me for 3D

So I wonder if this option of Bd rebuilder is to convert the 3D to 2d? or what exactly does that function? and there´s some way to encode with Bd rebuilder the 3D to 2d?

Thank you for your time guysYou should be able to... I'll do some testing an make sure it's still working right.

[jdobbs]

Did as you suggested: clean install and selected DirectshowSource. Unfortunatelly it is still taking almost 8 hrs to process a movie that would previously take no more than 4 hrs. Thank you for the time to try and help.Then I'm guessing you are still using X264/LAVF -- and if that is selected automatically you didn't install LAV Filters (or FFDSHOW) correctly.In the next release of BD-RB there will a change that automatically uses an older version of X264 if you have selected X264/LAVF for decoding. That should solve your speed problem. I may post it later today or tomorrow.

[Ch3vr0n]

The thing with 3D is that even if you process it with the option to treat as 2D, that doesn't mean that the java code on the disc will allow it. Certain code can exist that enforces the need for a 3D capable playback device, regardless of the fact if BDRB made the video 2D or not. There's nothing BDRB can do about that.

[jdobbs]

The thing with 3D is that even if you process it with the option to treat as 2D, that doesn't mean that the java code on the disc will allow it. Certain code can exist that enforces the need for a 3D capable playback device, regardless of the fact if BDRB made the video 2D or not. There's nothing BDRB can do about that.True.

[jdobbs]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.50.19). Changes for this release:- Added the ASS/SSA subtitle format to those
supported during import (converts to SRT).
- Fixed an error during import in which weird
source size could result in an AddBorders()
filter appendix that causes encode failure
(YV12 AddBorders parameters must be MOD2).
- Corrected an issue in which framerates that
are slightly off might prevent import from
converting to pseudo-bd format.
- Modified code so that SRT files that exist
in an import folder that have the same name
as selected video files (except with an SRT
extension) will be automatically imported.
Also see the IMPORT_SRT_LANG hidden option
in HIDDENOPTS.TXT for setting a default
language for the imported SRT. Note that
SRTs that are embedded in a source stream
retain their specified language and are not
affected by the IMPORT_SRT_LANG setting.
- Included an older version of X264 for users
that use X264/LAVF frame serving. Newer
X264 versions run significantly slower in
this mode (probably due to libavformat
updates that are slower).
- Added code that will recognize when sources
using AC3 with variable bitrate might have
an incorrect bitrate in the header.
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to
the latest release (r2721).
- Updated the included version of X264-64.EXE
to the latest release (r2721).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[soneca]

Thank you jdobbs! :rolleyes:

[MrVideo]

In these specific projects of mine I will use ffmpeg instead. :thanks:
You are welcome. Hopefully that works just fine.

[jdobbs]

To Robert

Just wanted to let you know that I received your gift card -- but, for some reason, I didn't get a return address in the e-mail. So I'm posting here to let you know I got it -- and to thank you -- your generosity is greatly appreciated!

[MrVideo]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.50.19).
I have to assume, that based upon the change list, that allowing a single menu item is not in this release.

[TheEthic]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest version of BD-RB (v0.50.19). Changes for this release:
- Included an older version of X264 for users
that use X264/LAVF frame serving. Newer
X264 versions run significantly slower in
this mode (probably due to libavformat
updates that are slower).

Hi! Thanks for another update...!!!

In this new update, I have the following error:


[11/14/16] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.19
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Working Path Free Space: 6,78GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- X264: Wrong version found
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[11/14/16] Systems Settings Check complete


Will the new version of x264 be the cause? How could you solve it?

[jdobbs]

I have to assume, that based upon the change list, that allowing a single menu item is not in this release.No. Sorry. I'll get to work on that tomorrow. I'm also going to work on the ability to make BD-5/9 menus that will work (AVCHD). I got a couple gift-card donations this week and got me thinking I might spend some more time on it.

[jdobbs]

Hi! Thanks for another update...!!!

In this new update, I have the following error:



Will the new version of x264 be the cause? How could you solve it?That's a mistake on my part -- It appears I forgot to update the X264 checksum when I released the new version. Just ignore it.

[jdobbs]

I wish I could somehow change the Amazon Gift card link to reflect something smaller than the $50 default -- that might turn people off. Does anybody know how to do that?

[MrVideo]

No. Sorry. I'll get to work on that tomorrow.
Thanks.

[Yordan5]

In the next release of BD-RB there will a change that automatically uses an older version of X264 if you have selected X264/LAVF for decoding. That should solve your speed problem. I may post it later today or tomorrow.

With the updated BD-RB version the longer encoding time issue for me is still present. I experimented using X264/LAVF and then DirectshowSource. With using X264/LAVF the encoding time was approximately an hour less but still almost 7 hours in total for the whole process. Another thing is that with the last two versions of BD-RB my CPU utilization seems to have become a lot heavier during Pass 1. The PC is now far less responsive even if used for web browsing. This was not the case before even during Pass 2.
CPU - Intel Core i7 4770, 8Gb RAM.

[Shuttle99]

This has probably been asked but I couldn't find the answer to help me decide. The question is in setup under decoding/frame serving there are 4 choices the only two I have used are the top two "Use DirectshowSource for frame serving or Use X264's internal". Which one is better to use and a quick explanation of why, or even the last two (I've never used the last two) but maybe their better.

Thanks,
Shuttle99

[jdobbs]

This has probably been asked but I couldn't find the answer to help me decide. The question is in setup under decoding/frame serving there are 4 choices the only two I have used are the top two "Use DirectshowSource for frame serving or Use X264's internal". Which one is better to use and a quick explanation of why, or even the last two (I've never used the last two) but maybe their better.

Thanks,
Shuttle99I just keep it on DirectshowSource. There are lots of features that require that aren't supported via X264/LAVF, like iVTC, some resizing, adding/removing borders, etc. The truth is that if you have LAV filters or FFDSHOW installed, and something is set that requires it -- it is used even if you have selected X264/LAVF. The only reason to really use X264/LAVF is if it is faster on your computer. I think that's rare (at least to any significant effect). But if you get a few fps more -- then you might want to use it. The downside is that some recent changes in X264 seem to make it slower...

If you are using an Intel processor that is supported by the Intel SDK library, you may get some extra speed out of FRIM -- but it's really there to support 3D, and it gets set automatically for that when needed.

DGDecNV is probably the best choice for everyday use -- but it costs money (you have to buy a license). It also requires a supported Nvidia video card, and if you are using Win10 the list of supported cards has shrunken (many older cards don't work anymore).

[Shuttle99]

Thanks jdobbs for the quick reply on which to use.

Shuttle99

[Blurayhd]

Hi guys, ther´s some way to extract the subtitles from Bluray disc? I mean, I have some movie and I need to extrat any language to SRT format, can Bd rebuilder do that? Have a good day

[jdobbs]

Hi guys, ther´s some way to extract the subtitles from Bluray disc? I mean, I have some movie and I need to extrat any language to SRT format, can Bd rebuilder do that? Have a good dayNo, not directly. Subtitles on BD are PGS (graphic) format and an SRT actually needs the text rather than the graphics. That means some type of OCR has to occur in between.

BD-RB does have the ability to convert it during output to ALTERNATE formats (see the selection in the SETUP dialog) -- but the OCR is unsupervised, so there is usually some required editing after the conversion.

There are a few good independent methods for PGS -> SRT conversion. Subtitle Edit is a pretty good one. You can use TSMUXER to extract the PGS (to a .SUP file), and then use Subtitle Edit to perform a supervised OCR conversion.

[MrVideo]

if you are using Win10 the list of supported carsd has shrunken (many older cards don't work anymore).
Really, M$ has made perfectly good cards unusable?

[jdobbs]

Really, M$ has made perfectly good cards unusable?The cards are usable with Win10, no problem. But Nvidia has stopped supporting them in their SDK that DGDecNV uses.

[MrVideo]

But Nvidia has stopped supporting them in their SDK that DGDecNV uses.
Well that sucks. Good thing I won't be going to Win10 any time soon, if ever.

[DoctorM]

This has probably been asked but I couldn't find the answer to help me decide. The question is in setup under decoding/frame serving there are 4 choices the only two I have used are the top two "Use DirectshowSource for frame serving or Use X264's internal". Which one is better to use and a quick explanation of why, or even the last two (I've never used the last two) but maybe their better.

Thanks,
Shuttle99
Since the internal LAVF got slow, I've been a big fan of using external LAVF with hardware acceleration turned on.
Not as fast as DgdecNV, but reliable and quick.

[Yordan5]

Since the internal LAVF got slow, I've been a big fan of using external LAVF with hardware acceleration turned on.
Not as fast as DgdecNV, but reliable and quick.


Yesterday I purchased a license for DgdecNV and tried it with BD-RB. (Nvidia card GeForce GTX 750, Intel Core i7 4770). Pointed BD-RB to the location of DgdecNV exe file and ran the job. There was no difference in encoding speed at all. Could someone suggest what I should pay attention to or be aware of when using BD-RB with DgdecNV? Do I need to have installed LAV Directshow Filters or FFDShow or Haali as well?

[jdobbs]

Yesterday I purchased a license for DgdecNV and tried it with BD-RB. (Nvidia card GeForce GTX 750, Intel Core i7 4770). Pointed BD-RB to the location of DgdecNV exe file and ran the job. There was no difference in encoding speed at all. Could someone suggest what I should pay attention to or be aware of when using BD-RB with DgdecNV? Do I need to have installed LAV Directshow Filters or FFDShow or Haali as well?DGDecNV works independently of LAV or FFDSHOW. Speed isn't everything you'd get with it. For example, it has frame accurate seeking -- so you can confidently use MULTIPROCESS. That's something you might want to try if you aren't using 100% of you processors during encoding.

[Weirdo]

When "Scanning source directory" is triggered, for example by changing Settings/Output options or selecting "Quicker Encode for Extras", all Blanked item selections are lost. Not sure if this is intended behaviour, doesn't seem like these selections interfere with these options.

[Seajunk]

Yesterday I purchased a license for DgdecNV and tried it with BD-RB. (Nvidia card GeForce GTX 750, Intel Core i7 4770). Pointed BD-RB to the location of DgdecNV exe file and ran the job. There was no difference in encoding speed at all.

You also have to keep in mind that DgdecNV is a hardware decoder only. It reduces the over all time of a job (usually significantly) but wont affect the encoding speed portion.