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DGenerateKane
28th April 2010, 08:01
The full log would help. Did you stop, change you audio settings, and resume? The error you are describing is exactly what would happen if you did. In the next release I think I'm going to put in a check to prevent that from being allowed.

Nope, I never interrupt the process for any reason.

Hmm, my log is too long, I'll have to upload a txt document.

woodman
28th April 2010, 19:39
I’ve just done a full backup of Apocalypto to bd25 with one HD audio track selected and in the work files folder there is two audio tracks, one at 3.99GB and the other 2.68GB, both are 00001._4352 wav. Is this normal, the film has 3 tracks LPMC, 5.1 and stereo. The main file that BD Rebuilder created has only one audio track.

jdobbs
28th April 2010, 19:46
I’ve just done a full backup of Apocalypto to bd25 with one HD audio track selected and in the work files folder there is two audio tracks, one at 3.99GB and the other 2.68GB, both are 00001._4352 wav. Is this normal, the film has 3 tracks LPMC, 5.1 and stereo. The main file that BD Rebuilder created has only one audio track. Yes its normal. BD-RB tells TSMUXER to break up .WAV files into multiple parts to keep them under 4GB. They are recombined when they are reencoded/remuxed.

woodman
28th April 2010, 20:07
Yes its normal. BD-RB tells TSMUXER to break up .WAV files into multiple parts to keep them under 4GB. They are recombined when they are reencoded/remuxed.

Thanks jdobbs. Thats a very large audio track, i did'nt think they were that high.

great program, can't wait for the pro version

unrox
28th April 2010, 22:09
I have made copies of Avatar, made 2 copies each in BD5 and BD9. Neither of th BD9's would play on my stand alone, yet played on the computer. I have a Panasonic B60, the BD 5's played on both, Used Verbatim 2.4X disks on the BD 9's Ty02's on the BD5's. Any ideas? Also one copy of each was full movie and one movie only.Again neither worked On BD9, both did work on BD5. T.I.A.

jdobbs
28th April 2010, 22:49
I have made copies of Avatar, made 2 copies each in BD5 and BD9. Neither of th BD9's would play on my stand alone, yet played on the computer. I have a Panasonic B60, the BD 5's played on both, Used Verbatim 2.4X disks on the BD 9's Ty02's on the BD5's. Any ideas? Also one copy of each was full movie and one movie only.Again neither worked On BD9, both did work on BD5. T.I.A. That's odd. You wouldn't think a player would distinguish in any way between BD-5 and BD-9... and Verbatims have always been good discs in my experience, so I wouldn't think that to be the issue.

DK
28th April 2010, 23:54
Could different booktype settings be an issue?

setarip_old
29th April 2010, 01:04
@unrox, @jdobbs

Hi!

I believe "multiAVCHD" has (and has had for some time now) some special settings for dealing with such known idiosyncrasies of Panasonic standalone players...

BTW - Verbatims (DVD5s and DVD9s) are no longer a "sure thing", ever since they added manufacturing facilities in places such as India and the United Arab Emirates...

jdobbs
29th April 2010, 01:53
@unrox, @jdobbs

Hi!

I believe "multiAVCHD" has (and has had for some time now) some special settings for dealing with such known idiosyncrasies of Panasonic standalone players...

BTW - Verbatims (DVD5s and DVD9s) are no longer a "sure thing", ever since they added manufacturing facilities in places such as India and the United Arab Emirates... Yeah, I had a discussion with him about that, but I don't think it was related to BD-5 as opposed to BD-9...

setarip_old
29th April 2010, 04:05
@unrox, @jdobbs

Well, just to let you know, I've seen a few of posts making that distinction (DVD5s Yes, DVD9s No) regarding this specific Panasonic player at DVDHelp and other forums...

raul124
29th April 2010, 04:36
@unrox, @jdobbs

Hi!

I believe "multiAVCHD" has (and has had for some time now) some special settings for dealing with such known idiosyncrasies of Panasonic standalone players...

BTW - Verbatims (DVD5s and DVD9s) are no longer a "sure thing", ever since they added manufacturing facilities in places such as India and the United Arab Emirates...

setarip_old would you know the special settings for dealing with some panasonic BD30 players. I have tried using multiavchd after shrinking the BD disc to BD9 full backup and still getting not compatible format. Maybe Iam doing some thing wrong. Would you know what to do first and the rest of the steps...much appriciated

jdobbs
29th April 2010, 05:18
setarip_old would you know the special settings for dealing with some panasonic BD30 players. I have tried using multiavchd after shrinking the BD disc to BD9 full backup and still getting not compatible format. Maybe Iam doing some thing wrong. Would you know what to do first and the rest of the steps...much appriciated I'd like to know too.

setarip_old
29th April 2010, 07:52
If I remember correctly, that information (or how to implement it) should be in the following thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146602

JohnnyB.Good
30th April 2010, 01:01
I've been having trouble recently, I keed getting "Encode Failed". I have been encoding for quite a while so something has changed since the "Automatic Quality" version was introduced that I keep gettings these problems that weren't there for me before.

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[19:23:40] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: RED_BIRD_2D_WW
- Input BD size: 43.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:25.736]
- Target BD size: 23.14 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:23:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:23:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:49:06] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
[19:49:18] - Failed video encode, aborted

8ternity
30th April 2010, 03:33
I've been having trouble recently, I keed getting "Encode Failed". I have been encoding for quite a while so something has changed since the "Automatic Quality" version was introduced that I keep gettings these problems that weren't there for me before.

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[19:23:40] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: RED_BIRD_2D_WW
- Input BD size: 43.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:42:25.736]
- Target BD size: 23.14 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:23:40] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:23:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [19:49:06] Reencoding: VID_00002 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
[19:49:18] - Failed video encode, aborted

Hello mister. I've got the same issue with this movie. Did you decrypt with anydvd hd or with another software?

- Source: RED_BIRD_2D_WW (AVATAR)

i was trying the rip with dvdfab. I've got two m2ts file has been converted, And i burn it and can't play at my bluray player. Ive ripp in iSO the original decrypted BD but samething. I was thinking that the decryption has been corrupted. AnyDVD HD don't have the solution for this movie for the version "_WW". I wait for the new version to test it back.

Also: Post the entire log from bd rebuilder. we have only one INSPECTOR value.

tandi
30th April 2010, 03:53
Hello mister. I've got the same issue with this movie. Did you decrypt with anydvd hd or with another software?

- Source: RED_BIRD_2D_WW (AVATAR)

i was trying the rip with dvdfab. I've got two m2ts file has been converted, And i burn it and can't play at my bluray player. Ive ripp in iSO the original decrypted BD but samething. I was thinking that the decryption has been corrupted. AnyDVD HD don't have the solution for this movie for the version "_WW". I wait for the new version to test it back.

Also: Post the entire log from bd rebuilder. we have only one INSPECTOR value.

i rip it with anydvd 6.6.3.7 and it work
have convert it to BD-9 with no problem

@jdobbs
any chance having pause button for the next versions ?

setarip_old
30th April 2010, 04:10
@Johnny B. Good, @8ternity

With AnyDVDHD running in the background, try simply copying the disc to your hard drive. I believe you'll see it fail.

Presently, all three significant "players" in the BluRay decryption arena (DVDFab, MakeMKV, AnyDVDHD) are still having all sorts of difficulty with the unbelievably complex and multiple protection schemes (including different schemes for different countries within the same region protection schemes!). Each of the three is at a different stage of success.

At this time, I'd suggest you try DVDFab v.7.45 (with AnyDVD turned COMPLETELY off)...

steveg32
30th April 2010, 04:41
I have made copies of Avatar, made 2 copies each in BD5 and BD9. Neither of th BD9's would play on my stand alone, yet played on the computer. I have a Panasonic B60, the BD 5's played on both, Used Verbatim 2.4X disks on the BD 9's Ty02's on the BD5's. Any ideas? Also one copy of each was full movie and one movie only.Again neither worked On BD9, both did work on BD5. T.I.A.

Re: BD-5 & BD-9 playback problems on standalone Blu-ray players.

Make sure your burner drive & DVD+R/+R DL disc's Book Type are set to "Normal" and not "DVD-ROM". Many standalone B-R players cannot read BD-5 (DVD+R) & BD-9 (DVD+R DL) discs with a Book Type of "DVD-ROM". In ImgBurn, to check & change Book Type, go to > Tools > Drive > Change Book Type. This fixed all my playback issues regardless of what brand DVD+R/+R DL I burned on (although I only recommend Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden media). Good luck!

chudm
30th April 2010, 05:22
guys i tried to do avatar to bd9 (Reencoding to 1280*720), but cant get it done with the subtitles... any suggestion?

jdobbs
30th April 2010, 05:36
@All

Until the issues with Avatar are settled at the decrypting end -- please refrain from posting any bug reports related to that title. This is a BD Rebuilder bug thread and the problems with that title currently shouldn't be considered bugs in BD-RB.

If, after the dust settles on the AnyDVD and DVDFab fronts related to that title, there still seem to be issues, we'll readdress. But right not it's just not fruitful to discuss a problem that may or may not have anything to do with BD Rebuilder.

chudm
30th April 2010, 05:39
this happened too with the ice age blurays jdobbs, this happened when trying to reencode the subs from 1080p to 720p, tsmuxer hang up, i tried to manually mux all the files on tsmuxer having the same results..

DK
30th April 2010, 11:02
Re: BD-5 & BD-9 playback problems on standalone Blu-ray players.

Make sure your burner drive & DVD+R/+R DL disc's Book Type are set to "Normal" and not "DVD-ROM". Many standalone B-R players cannot read BD-5 (DVD+R) & BD-9 (DVD+R DL) discs with a Book Type of "DVD-ROM". In ImgBurn, to check & change Book Type, go to > Tools > Drive > Change Book Type. This fixed all my playback issues regardless of what brand DVD+R/+R DL I burned on (although I only recommend Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden media). Good luck!

That was exactly my way of thinking and the reason I mentioned booktype setting in my last post!

My Samsung 1600 is one of those players that does NOT accept -ROM.

jdobbs
30th April 2010, 14:25
this happened too with the ice age blurays jdobbs, this happened when trying to reencode the subs from 1080p to 720p, tsmuxer hang up, i tried to manually mux all the files on tsmuxer having the same results..That's a known problem for which there is currently no fix. You have to find the sub that won't resize, and not transfer it.

SRB01
30th April 2010, 20:56
That was exactly my way of thinking and the reason I mentioned booktype setting in my last post!

My Samsung 1600 is one of those players that does NOT accept -ROM.

Long time user, first time poster.
I too have a sammy bd-p1600, and have created many coasters, attempting bd-9's.
unless you tick "strick acvhd" in the setup, you are going to get a set of files that when burned won't play. There is a certain set of files that comprise a avchd bd-9. any more or less files and they won't play. I am not at home, so I can't give you the exact file names and order.
ALSO: you are correct. A sammy BD-P1600 will not play A DVD +R DL as a -rom file. You must be able to change the book type on your drive. Go into IMG burn and change the setting for "AUTO book type change" as this will change it automatically to ROM, and that's bad for you. As far as disks go, I have had no better luck with one type over the other. I use them all, TDK'S, Memorix, Vertbatium, Sony, Ridata, Quantum. When the programs are working and giving me proper output, I can burn w/ around 95% working disks.
In my 10 plus years of burning CD, DVD, BD disks I have found and follow these two things:
1. Only use LG burners. PERIOD.
2. Burn SLOW. Repeat: SssLllOooWww.
Music and data cd's 4x max. DVD and Br's 2X max. my 2 cents. YMMV. stu

SRB01
30th April 2010, 21:10
That was exactly my way of thinking and the reason I mentioned booktype setting in my last post!

My Samsung 1600 is one of those players that does NOT accept -ROM.

@All

Until the issues with Avatar are settled at the decrypting end -- please refrain from posting any bug reports related to that title. This is a BD Rebuilder bug thread and the problems with that title currently shouldn't be considered bugs in BD-RB.

If, after the dust settles on the AnyDVD and DVDFab fronts related to that title, there still seem to be issues, we'll readdress. But right not it's just not fruitful to discuss a problem that may or may not have anything to do with BD Rebuilder.

FWIW. I did a movie-only, no HD audio backup of Avatar last night and burned it this morning. Original movie ripped w/ DVDfab to ISO. BD-RE ver 33.06, stock settings, burned w/ IMG 2x, to a Quantum BD-R 25. 9 hours to process w/ quad Phenom @3.6 ghz.
BUT the results were STUNNING. Acutally I have come to expect that from BD-RE. The quality of the output of JDobbs' program is AWESOME. My 2 cents. Stu

laserfan
30th April 2010, 22:09
A sammy BD-P1600 will not play A DVD +R DL as a -rom file. You must be able to change the book type on your drive. Go into IMG burn and change the setting for "AUTO book type change" as this will change it automatically to ROM, and that's bad for you.
Further, most Pioneer burners default to ROM for DL discs and can't be changed, so don't bother to try this with a Pioneer.

DGenerateKane
30th April 2010, 23:50
Jdobbs, did you get a chance to look at my log? I set all 7 discs of Star Trek Season 2 in batch mode last night and they just finished, 2 of them had similar errors and thus failed.

jdobbs
1st May 2010, 03:49
Jdobbs, did you get a chance to look at my log? I set all 7 discs of Star Trek Season 2 in batch mode last night and they just finished, 2 of them had similar errors and thus failed. Yeah. Not sure what happened. I have the Star Trek Season One box set, and I'll try running S1_D7 tonight. I'd tested on those before -- but I think I only did the first couple.

It would help, though, if I knew what settings you were using (languages, setup options, etc) so I can run it the same way.

gwendal13
1st May 2010, 10:23
Yeah. Not sure what happened. I have the Star Trek Season One box set, and I'll try running S1_D7 tonight. I'd tested on those before -- but I think I only did the first couple.

It would help, though, if I knew what settings you were using (languages, setup options, etc) so I can run it the same way.


jdobbs i have also many problems with this season.Bd RB works perfectly until end of conversion but the BD25 don't play the episdode, because of the angle i think. Forgive my english.

SoniG
1st May 2010, 10:27
Hi jdobbs, I know you like to forget me sometimes :) however I would like to know what you think about the Batman Returns BD sample I sent you last week. Just to know if I will have to do it manually and especially as I think if you find the issue on this sample, you should remove any field order issue remaining. Thanks for your answer, and I promise to not beg you too much!

jdobbs
1st May 2010, 14:39
Jdobbs, did you get a chance to look at my log? I set all 7 discs of Star Trek Season 2 in batch mode last night and they just finished, 2 of them had similar errors and thus failed. I just did the disc you reported (Disc 7) with no issues...

jdobbs
1st May 2010, 14:59
Hi jdobbs, I know you like to forget me sometimes :) however I would like to know what you think about the Batman Returns BD sample I sent you last week. Just to know if I will have to do it manually and especially as I think if you find the issue on this sample, you should remove any field order issue remaining. Thanks for your answer, and I promise to not beg you too much! Well first, its not BFF. It is a VC-1 field-based source that uses RFF profusely. Here are the field flags for the first 500 frames:
TR TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT
TR TT RT TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT TR TT RT TR TB TB TB TB
TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB
TB TB TB TT RT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT
TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB
TB TT RT TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT
TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB
TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB
TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT
TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB
TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB
TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT This certainly confuses me, but I'm far from expert on VC-1. Maybe someone else could analyze it and make more sense of it. The only real thing I see that is consistent is that the Bottom field is never first. The issue might be that field-based sources have to be converted to an MKV first, because more often than not the M2TS won't playback correctly (for frame serving to X264, that's what the "**" means in the streams list). It's possible that this mess gets misinterpreted in the conversion.

DGenerateKane
1st May 2010, 22:02
I just did the disc you reported (Disc 7) with no issues...

Well what the deuce. My settings should be the same as they've always been, except quality. I always had BD-25 set but after updating for the first time in months I see you added a new default setting (auto) so I just left it.

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BLU-RAY RIPS\STAR_TREK_S1D7\
WORKING_PATH=F:\FULL DISC\

jdobbs
1st May 2010, 22:20
Well what the deuce. My settings should be the same as they've always been, except quality. I always had BD-25 set but after updating for the first time in months I see you added a new default setting (auto) so I just left it.

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
TARGET_SIZE=23000
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BLU-RAY RIPS\STAR_TREK_S1D7\
WORKING_PATH=F:\FULL DISC\ I'm doing "Star Trek, The Original Series, Season 1, Disc 7" Region 1. It looks like you're keeping HD audio, though, and I wasn't (I should have noticed that from your log). I'll try it again with that set.

SoniG
2nd May 2010, 03:37
Well first, its not BFF. It is a VC-1 field-based source that uses RFF profusely. Here are the field flags for the first 500 frames:
TR TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT TR TT RT TR TT RT TR TT RT .... TB TB TB TB TT RT TB TB TB TB TB TB TB TT. This certainly confuses me, but I'm far from expert on VC-1. Maybe someone else could analyze it and make more sense of it. The only real thing I see that is consistent is that the Bottom field is never first. The issue might be that field-based sources have to be converted to an MKV first, because more often than not the M2TS won't playback correctly (for frame serving to X264, that's what the "**" means in the streams list). It's possible that this mess gets misinterpreted in the conversion.
Well the funniest thing about this footage, is that when you see it with your eyes, in fact it's progressive. There is no field lines on it, and whatever I encode it as BFF or TFF, the result is ok. However there are always the same slight furtive lines sometimes, but too furtive to be considered as fields, and it shows how far these footages are stranges and surely bad managed from the beginning, even if as you learned me, we can't do 29.97 progressive. In fact the Stargate sample I gave you is more interesting, it's exactly the same specs as Batman : VC1 BFF, but this one do have fields lines and is well BFF, because it gives jerky playback when encoded as TFF. As these kind of footages seems to be fortunately rare, wouldn't it be interesting when we choose DEINTERLACE=0, to add a flag to force bff or tff encode for interlaced files of these particular BD, just in case there is in fact no solution and if there is absolutely no real/normalized field order flags on these source footages (and how the hell all these players do so?!). I tried adding -bff on the x264 tweaks, but of course it encode all as bff, even the main movie.
And finally, If you don't see BFF, maybe as you say a possible bug somewhere could false your analyse on these kind of footage. It's a very high probability as other interlaced footages from AVC and MPEG2 (that I think is good too) contained on a M2TS files seems to be well interpreted all the time. I can't really say much about how to better analyse it by code, I even don't understand how you grab these TBR letters, but I just can tell you that with my eyes, it's well BFF (at least Stargate) or RFF with much more BFF. More enough to remove any jerky playback effects, and I don't know how mediainfo is relevant, but he is always agree with what I see. If it could help you, know that mediainfo have a dll, maybe you could try to understand how this tool arrive to well analyse these files. To finish, Mediainfo tells me Interlaced/BFF on the source, Interlaced/BFF on the MKV you generate, Interlaced/TFF on the encoded m2ts. I understand hardly all of this and I would like to help you more.

jdobbs
2nd May 2010, 03:49
@SoniG

The flags I'm showing you come straight from the original M2TS VC-1 stream's flags in the picture headers -- and I verified them by hand. So there isn't room for argument as to what the stream says (at least in the first 500 pictures). How someone might interpret them I guess is debatable... but I don't see how it could in any way be interpreted as BFF since there isn't a single BFF in the lot.

If it is a 29.97fps progressive sequence that is flagged as interlaced, it really wouldn't matter if it was BFF or TFF -- as there would be no chronological difference between the two. But that would be really odd for an originally progressive picture to be split out into a field-picture stream.

SoniG
2nd May 2010, 04:20
@SoniG

The flags I'm showing you come straight from the original M2TS VC-1 stream's flags in the picture headers -- and I verified them by hand. So there isn't room for argument as to what the stream says (at least in the first 500 pictures). How someone might interpret them I guess is debatable... but I don't see how it could in any way be interpreted as BFF since there isn't a single BFF in the lot.

If it is a 29.97fps progressive sequence that is flagged as interlaced, it really wouldn't matter if it was BFF or TFF -- as there would be no chronological difference between the two. But that would be really odd for an originally progressive picture to be split out into a field-picture stream.
I agree with you, but as you said, we can't have 29.97 progressive, so maybe encode a progressive footage as 29.97 480i is the best solution for them. And I'm ok with your analyse, if you say it's tff, rff or whatever, so it is! But for example, the first 500 pictures of a bonus footage could be a progressive 3D intro (as this one) and after give you some nice and real bff or tff images as there is often when guys are interviewed. That's the point, where should it be the best place to analyse the footage? That's what join what I told you about theory, even if they are good, we don't know what was done at the source, and the eyes are there also to judge. And when you will have more and more guys like me that will come here to moan (like me! :)) because their bonuses are all jerky, well, it's because eyes took the influence on the theory. So I don't know what to say to you. How players do? Are they analyse each frames in realtime to determine and BOB fields on the fly, or is there any hidden flags on these footages that notify them? I will certainly stay modest about all of this, you certainly more understand all of this than me, and in waiting, fortunately, we can at least launch a Backup of the BD, let the main movie encode, Abort, add a bff or tff tweak flag and resume the backup for these bonuses that are fortunately very rare. So thanks for your Resume management, it will saves precious time... again! Maybe, tff or bff x264 encode option is too limited. Maybe it misses a real internal analyzer, with an additional RFF process, and field order switch on the fly. Don't know!

gwendal13
2nd May 2010, 10:07
I just did the disc you reported (Disc 7) with no issues...

Season 1 or 2 ? Season 2 contains multi-angle and all the disks don't works in BD25 full backup with all languages et subtitles. My BD85 stop playing when episode start. I compare the structure with bdedit and there is some differences in clip and playlist. multi-angle make problem ?

jdobbs
2nd May 2010, 14:04
Season 1 or 2 ? Season 2 contains multi-angle and all the disks don't works in BD25 full backup with all languages et subtitles. My BD85 stop playing when episode start. I compare the structure with bdedit and there is some differences in clip and playlist. multi-angle make problem ? Season One. I've haven't bought Season 2 (yet). It shouldn't be a problem, though -- there are lots of discs with multiangles and multiple storylines out there.

gwendal13
2nd May 2010, 16:18
Season One. I've haven't bought Season 2 (yet). It shouldn't be a problem, though -- there are lots of discs with multiangles and multiple storylines out there.

yes but he don't work at all.

jdobbs
2nd May 2010, 18:14
yes but he don't work at all.

Please don't post "it don't work", that doesn't help anyone -- post specific results, what happened and when, and the log from the encode.

8ternity
2nd May 2010, 19:59
Cancelled.

bassnut
2nd May 2010, 20:17
Man has BD Rebuilder come along way, it's been a long time since I ahve had any issues in my recodes and this is a new one for me. I was doing Dances With Wolves Region A release and had the following result.

[10:53:50] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: DANCES_WITH_WOLVES
- Input BD size: 43.09 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:23:14.172]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640

Truncated //////

[14:09:34]PHASE ONE complete
[14:09:34]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:09:34] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [14:09:38] CopyDirStructure() 00052 1200
[15:07:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[15:07:58]JOB: DANCES_WITH_WOLVES finished.

[Status]
LABEL=DANCES_WITH_WOLVES
VERSION=v0.33.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=46269466728
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=46224881664
TARGET_SIZE=24326963200
REDUCTION=.525309687377981
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=15
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00017]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=9683
NSIZE=6144
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00016]
AUDIO=
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=12910
RATE=500
NSIZE=12288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00007]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=69336451
NSIZE=115789824
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00008]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=73764585
NSIZE=179755008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00009]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=84573494
NSIZE=179030016
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00011]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=85322274
NSIZE=137846784
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=0111
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=107278979
NSIZE=144685056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=117742544
NSIZE=95324160
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00015]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=119504761
NSIZE=156542976
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00021]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=146938538
NSIZE=180652032
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00022]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=149794878
NSIZE=115329024
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00013]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=152096088
NSIZE=205891584
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00014]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=186998307
NSIZE=190046208
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00012]
AUDIO=0
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=194031037
NSIZE=194660352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=0111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=22386806680
RATE=8572
NSIZE=21772769280
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


BDRebuilder has created the Root folder but it is empty and work files are still there. I ahve run this twiced now in Automatic and High quality modes with the same result.

gwendal13
2nd May 2010, 20:24
Please don't post "it don't work", that doesn't help anyone -- post specific results, what happened and when, and the log from the encode.

No problem with the encode, the log report no error. But the result, Bd25 full backup, stop then playing episode.

playlist of the firts episode : original

11022

clipinf of the first file m2ts

11021

terrykuntz
2nd May 2010, 21:55
I have built a new computer with window 7 64 bit and I have installed all the programs listed on the first post. I have problem with the blu-ray Die Another Day. Everytime I try to shrink it I get the following message:

[13:34:27] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: DIEANOTHERDAY
- Input BD size: 25.25 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:12:34.404]
- Target BD size: 22.66 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- One Pass ABR Mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[13:34:28] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:34:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00130]
- Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: D:\HD MOVIE SHRINK\DIEANOTHERDAYSHRINK\WORKFILES\00130.M2TS
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: D:\HD MOVIE SHRINK\DIEANOTHERDAYSHRINK\WORKFILES\00130.M2TS
[13:39:42] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted


On my other machine that uses Window XP 32 bit the movie works fine with no errors. I have re-encoded the movie using anydvd again and I get the same errors. Are there some additional settings I need to configure for windows 7 64? I followed the instructions to a tee on the first post. Why am I getting this error?

Audiophile1178
2nd May 2010, 22:06
jdobbs, I would like to say that I've backed up ~40 blu-ray discs using full bakcup to BD-25 and have yet to have a problem with playback on my BDP-83. I have a few questions/suggestions for you.

First, I just backed up "Crank 2 - High Voltage" the other day and noticed something. The main movie has a secondary video that is mpeg-4 (AVC), 480p, 23.976fps. I was looking at my workfiles folder and noticed that the secondary video didn't get encoded at all while the primary video got a 50% or more reduction. Is there a way to get it to encode and reduce it the same amount as the main title for future encodes so that I can steal space from the secondary video and give it to the primary instead or would the bitrate get so low it wouldn't look good?

Original:
Main: 14 GB, 1080p
Secondary: 3.34 GB, 480p

Final Output:
Main: 5.95 GB, 1080p
Secondary: 3.34 GB, 480p

Second, my backup of "The Air I Breathe". The deleted scenes audio was out of sync with the video.

Third, this is regarding folders:
PS3_UPDATE
PS3_VPRM
SNP (Digital Copy Movie) (Can take up a gig or two of space)

File:
PS3_DISC.SFB

Also, anything else that takes up wasted space. I was wondering if you could put in an option in the setup to not copy/ignore these files on the final output.

Thank you for making such a great program!!! :thanks:

8ternity
2nd May 2010, 23:22
No problem with the encode, the log report no error. But the result, Bd25 full backup, stop then playing episode.



Please add "Code" source tag when pasting an huge text log.

ex: (code) (/code) (replace () for []

Capsbackup
3rd May 2010, 00:41
Also, anything else that takes up wasted space. I was wondering if you could put in an option in the setup to not copy/ignore these files on the final output.


Why not only include the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders in the source folder you direct BD-RB to? :cool:

Audiophile1178
3rd May 2010, 02:47
Why not only include the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders in the source folder you direct BD-RB to? :cool:

Because I use AnyDVD to rip to an image keeping the copy protection. I then mount the image with virtual clonedrive and point BDRebuilder to the image drive. I do that so that I have the original source that I can go back to incase something goes wrong without having to waste the time having to rip it to the hard drive again. BDRebuilder sees the source and copies everything on the final rebuild.

JohnnyB.Good
3rd May 2010, 03:30
Here's an interesting problem with Red Cliff, the movie encoded fine and failed at like 96% at file 00520 which happened to be a trailer. I replaced that file with another trailer from another Blu-ray, renamed it to 00520 and over-wrote the file, BD-Rebuilder continued fine with the encode after doing this but then it happened again on the next file 00521, another trailer and had to replace it as well for it to continue. Has this happened to anyone else with specific files not being able to encode?

[00:05:27] BD Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Source: RED_CLIFF_THEATRICAL
- Input BD size: 45.41 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:34:41.528]
- Target BD size: 23.78 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[00:05:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [00:05:35] Reencoding: VID_00520 (10 of 13)
- [00:05:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,084 frames
- Bitrate: 13,621 Kbs
- [00:05:35] Reencoding: VID_00520, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.33.06 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
[00:06:12] - Failed video encode, aborted