BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[doffot]

Beyoncé: I Am... Yours. An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas reencode does not work on blu-ray player sony and ps3 black screen ? help

[chudm]

Beyoncé: I Am... Yours. An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas reencode does not work on blu-ray player sony and ps3 black screen ? help

my girlfriend bought that one, ill give a try tomorrow!

[AGKnotUser]

Ver. 0.31.06 will not encode if I have VC-1 set to disabled. It complains I don't have VC-1 set to wmv9. If I set VC-1 to wmv9 then it runs. Did not have this problem with 0.31.05. What am I doing wrong? I'm running Win 7 32 bit Home Premium.

Error as follows:
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[23:11:45] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Capsbackup]

I believe Win 7 needs VC-1 set to WMV9, only XP and Vista could be set to disabled if WMP 11 was installed.
If I set VC-1 to wmv9 then it runs.
This is good! :p

[jdobbs]

Ver. 0.31.06 will not encode if I have VC-1 set to disabled. It complains I don't have VC-1 set to wmv9. If I set VC-1 to wmv9 then it runs. Did not have this problem with 0.31.05. What am I doing wrong? I'm running Win 7 32 bit Home Premium.

Error as follows:
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3133)
- FFDSHOW: VC-1 not set to wmv9
[23:11:45] - Failed video encode, abortedIt only gives you that message after it has already failed to encode -- which, of course, means that something has already changed in your system (assuming "disabled" worked before)... just set it to wmv9 and you won't have an issue.

It doesn't sound like an "problem" to me, it sounds more like a "solution".

[Choppermike]

I've managed to rebuild two movies since I reinstalled everything and working on a third now. I've noticed that I only have the BDMV file and not the certificate file. I burn the BDMV to dvd5 and it plays fine in the ps3. Questions: 1 why don't I see the certificate file anymore? 2 Why doesn't it matter?

I think I've seen this question b4, went back but couldn't find it.

[jdobbs]

I've managed to rebuild two movies since I reinstalled everything and working on a third now. I've noticed that I only have the BDMV file and not the certificate file. I burn the BDMV to dvd5 and it plays fine in the ps3. Questions: 1 why don't I see the certificate file anymore? 2 Why doesn't it matter?

I think I've seen this question b4, went back but couldn't find it. If a CERTIFICATE folder exists in the source, it will be copied to the output (for full backups). If you did a full backup and it isn't there, my guess would be that the source folder doesn't have it.

For movie-only backups it is not needed.

[Choppermike]

If a CERTIFICATE folder exists in the source, it will be copied to the output (for full backups). If you did a full backup and it isn't there, my guess would be that the source folder doesn't have it.

For movie-only backups it is not needed.

I Learn something everyday. Thanks

[drmih]

In actual fact the Certificate folder is empty unless there is bd-j content. Many blu-ray discs don't need it but it's included.

[chesterman]

Thanks JDobbs for putting together this beautiful program.

[e143slime8]

Have been using v0.31.05 for around a month now. Will give 06 a shot.

So far, have backed up around 20 BR movies, all with great results.

Only one I've had problems with is playing "Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary" on My Panny BD60. Movie stops reading and then nothing. I'm able to see the "Top" menu but that will not respond with any choices I make, am unable to play from "Scene" selection. Will be trying another pass with .06 and see what happens.

I am able to get to play on my computer using VLC Media Player.

Any thoughts?

BTW, thanks for the great work and hopefully I can contribute with some feedback from time to time.

[DrKajun]

What verison of FFDshow thats stable yall running?

Jdobbs: you dont by chance update the main pages links with the lastest verison your using with your latest verison of BD-RD do ya?

[jdobbs]

What verison of FFDshow thats stable yall running?

Jdobbs: you dont by chance update the main pages links with the lastest verison your using with your latest verison of BD-RD do ya?Yes I do. It is current with what I am running now.

[jdobbs]

Have been using v0.31.05 for around a month now. Will give 06 a shot.

So far, have backed up around 20 BR movies, all with great results.

Only one I've had problems with is playing "Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary" on My Panny BD60. Movie stops reading and then nothing. I'm able to see the "Top" menu but that will not respond with any choices I make, am unable to play from "Scene" selection. Will be trying another pass with .06 and see what happens.

I am able to get to play on my computer using VLC Media Player.

Any thoughts?

BTW, thanks for the great work and hopefully I can contribute with some feedback from time to time. I did a BD-25 full-disc backup of "Wizard of Oz" with no issues. I need more information.

[e143slime8]

I did a BD-25 full-disc backup of "Wizard of Oz" with no issues. I need more information.

Will give it another shot and check out the log when done in case I missed something the first attempt. Thanks for the reply and will get back to you. Used Optical Quantum BD-R 25G burned with an LG

Here's my settings that have successfully squeezed and burned 20 so far.

Mode: Full Backup
Quicker Encode For Extras

Encoder: x264
Encoder Settings: Normal Priority
High Quality

Options: Custom Target size 23450

Auto Burn To Disc with ImgBurn (at 4x)

BD-R Setup:
Audio Encoding Options: Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Bluray only)
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding


If you need more info, let me know (not sure what else you need).

[endlrls]

Jdobbs,
Great app, I'm finding that .31.05 works with my Win 7, 7100 build, but not with my Vista 64 bit Ultimate machine. the last beta worked on both however. Other than a matter of just network transferring the data to the other machine, Please keep up the good work. You guys Rock! Thanks again
endlrls

[tacky187]

Hello,

Great job on wonderful, wonderful program. I had originally started writing a similar program, but was quite thankful to see someone already tackling it. I've backed up many discs and almost all work wonderfully.

I did notice, however, that the second disc of Terminator Salvation (Director's Cut) seems to hang/have issues when using chapter skipping or selecting chapters from the pop-up menu. It will hang for several minutes and then start but with either no sound, or sound really out of sync. I haven't experienced this issue with any other movie on my PS3 (and I now specifically check the pop-up chapters feature.)

I am taking the disc over to check a couple more BD players, but was curious if anyone else has experienced this issue? Are there any settings I can enable or try to help debug why this would be happening?

[chudm]

Beyoncé: I Am... Yours. An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas reencode does not work on blu-ray player sony and ps3 black screen ? help

did a test yesterday, with 31.05 but it didnt worked either on my ps3, tonight ill do another test with 31.06

[yeepeefr]

Hi,

I dont know if it is a bug or an unwanted feature but here it is.

I use laste beta (v0.31.06).
My settings are so that i keep only the movie, with two langages (audio and subtitle). I aim to keep the movie and the audio without reencode, so, for the movie, i put a custom size that wont bother me with reencoding (46Go).

I have tried with choosing the option of "keep only one track" of the preselected languages / sub, and without choosing to keep the "one only option".

If I do a single rebuild, it works perfect, I mean that if i am not satisfied with the result of keep only one track/sub per language (or keep all), wathever modification i do is taken into account.

But if i use the add to the job list, then my modifications are not taken into account when the batch is proceeded (it does not do random, it act as it was opening the projectf ofr the first time with the default setup). So that with the batch list I have no way to define precisely what I want or dont want to keep, when for some movies my preselected options are not ok (20% of movies doesnt fit any of the preselected setup if you want to keep the best audio track, as the audio track has to be in the good order for that, and same problem with the subtitles, but with subs, you can afford to keep them all in option as they dont take a lot of place).

Thanks for your job on this app, and sorry if it has been said before as i havent read all the 300+ pages of posts.

Would be also greatly appreciated if you could confirm if it is either a bug or a future functionnality (keep modification made individually for each job of the job list), or if will never be a future functionnality.

[Capsbackup]

@yeepeefr;
But if i use the add to the job list, then my modifications are not taken into account when the batch is proceeded
This is how BD-RB works with batch mode. It is unable to keep all the potential selections for subs and audio in batch mode.
Thanks for your job on this app, and sorry if it has been said before as i havent read all the 300+ pages of posts.
Bad yeepeefr!! start reading...:rolleyes: :p

[doffot]

did a test yesterday, with 31.05 but it didnt worked either on my ps3, tonight ill do another test with 31.06

ok thx in panasonic bd30 is perfect , sony not :confused::confused:
I test 31.06

[JBear]

Hey JDobbs, love the program. Was wondering how to tell what extras are being encoded when "quicker extras" is applied and can this be controlled. Also if there is a list or thread to all the hidden commands would help a bunch.

thanks again.

[jdobbs]

Hey JDobbs, love the program. Was wondering how to tell what extras are being encoded when "quicker extras" is applied and can this be controlled. Also if there is a list or thread to all the hidden commands would help a bunch.

thanks again.Quick encoding for extras is "On" if it has a checkmark next to it on the MODE menu.

The BD Rebuilder folder (from the ZIP file) contains a text file called "HIDDENOPTS.TXT" -- that explains the current hidden options.

[chudm]

ok thx in panasonic bd30 is perfect , sony not :confused::confused:
I test 31.06

tested on 31.06, and again my ps3 says unvalid disc, its weird cause i test all my backup on my ps3 and sony s360 (and both doesnt play at all the backup)

[doffot]

tested on 31.06, and again my ps3 says unvalid disc, its weird cause i test all my backup on my ps3 and sony s360 (and both doesnt play at all the backup)

exactly very weird, panasonic perfect test ,and sony fail test :mad:

[jdobbs]

Well, I have a Sony S360 and have never found a disc that wouldn't work, sometimes I think it would play back a piece of toast if I put it in... are you using IMGBURN via BD-RB to burn? Are you using decent blanks?

[doffot]

Well, I have a Sony S360 and have never found a disc that wouldn't work, sometimes I think it would play back a piece of toast if I put it in... are you using IMGBURN via BD-RB to burn? Are you using decent blanks?

problem is music video some for example :

Beyoncé: I Am... Yours. An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas

verbatim

[chudm]

problem is music video some for example :

Beyoncé: I Am... Yours. An Intimate Performance at Wynn Las Vegas

verbatim

yeap i used imgburn, on my pc with total media theater worked perfect, but on my s360 and my ps3 doesnt play at all, burned on a verbatim bd-re

[chudm]

yeap i used imgburn, on my pc with total media theater worked perfect, but on my s360 and my ps3 doesnt play at all, burned on a verbatim bd-re

full backup to bd25, all audios kept, 2 pass high quality, same results on beta 31.05 and beta 31.06

[doffot]

full backup to bd25, all audios kept, 2 pass high quality, same results on beta 31.05 and beta 31.06

me too...!

[e-motion]

Don't think it's been mentioned before but the District 9 Blu-Ray is giving BD Rebuilder a tough time. First time I tried to do a full reencode (I only do full discs with menus/extras, minus extra languages, BD-25 size) it gave me a "wrong size PGS, possible oversize error" and effectively was oversized by about 10GB if I remember correctly. Second time I tried, I deselected the audio descriptive track since I wouldn't need it anyway, didn't get an error message, but this time the movie file was reencoded down to about 3GB... I think you can easily imagine how a 2 hour movie looks once reencoded into 3GB...

I don't know if that helps you any JDobbs, but District 9 seems to be an interesting case and challenge so you might want to give that disc a shot.

[Capsbackup]

Don't think it's been mentioned before but the District 9 Blu-Ray is giving BD Rebuilder a tough time. First time I tried to do a full reencode (I only do full discs with menus/extras, minus extra languages, BD-25 size) it gave me a "wrong size PGS, possible oversize error" and effectively was oversized by about 10GB if I remember correctly. Second time I tried, I deselected the audio descriptive track since I wouldn't need it anyway, didn't get an error message, but this time the movie file was reencoded down to about 3GB... I think you can easily imagine how a 2 hour movie looks once reencoded into 3GB...

I don't know if that helps you any JDobbs, but District 9 seems to be an interesting case and challenge so you might want to give that disc a shot.

Yes, it has been mentioned before. Make sure you remove all the extra files from the rip, only leaving the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders. Also, 2 pass encode and do not check "Quick Encode For Extras" worked perfect for me. :)

@jdobbs;
I have now experienced " Audio and/or PGS size too large. Probable oversize. Continue? "
It happened on a BD-25 backup of District 9, Region A, on pass 1 of the main title, VID_00011, which is a MPEG4 (AVC) 1080P, 23.976fps, 23,360.85 MB.
I selected the option to continue, and it's started running again on pass one of this title. I will update the results as they develop.
Does not appear to be anything special about this movie:

[18:47:36] BD Rebuilder v0.31.05 (beta)
- Source: DISTRICT_9
- Input BD size: 42.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:43:51.701]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
There are 14 subtitles also, which are all selected to keep as well, but I doubt that has any effect.

EDIT:
It completed, but running only 1 pass of a 2 pass selection for the main title.
And the error message did not lie either, finished at 29.8GB, and there was not a "CERTIFICATE" folder created in the new backup. Strange! :confused:
The main title is 13.2GB, all extras( 179 files) are 16.6GB.

EDIT 2:
I just realized that when ANYDVD rips all the files off the disc, for this one there is 4.99GB of extra files: example-PS3_GAME=2.95GB, PS3_UPDATE=256MB, SNP=1.78GB.
Doing the math, it is no wonder BD-RB oversized. 29.8GB - 4.99GB = 24.81GB.
Just a guess, but this might be why the error was thrown, if BD-RB saw the extra content and factored it in to the size calculation before it started the last and main title.
I will remove the extra content from the ripped folder and try a full backup again with the same settings and report back. :)

[jdobbs]

Don't think it's been mentioned before but the District 9 Blu-Ray is giving BD Rebuilder a tough time. First time I tried to do a full reencode (I only do full discs with menus/extras, minus extra languages, BD-25 size) it gave me a "wrong size PGS, possible oversize error" and effectively was oversized by about 10GB if I remember correctly. Second time I tried, I deselected the audio descriptive track since I wouldn't need it anyway, didn't get an error message, but this time the movie file was reencoded down to about 3GB... I think you can easily imagine how a 2 hour movie looks once reencoded into 3GB...

I don't know if that helps you any JDobbs, but District 9 seems to be an interesting case and challenge so you might want to give that disc a shot.Whenever you get that error -- always check your source, because it is telling you that the combination of the audio, pgs, and other stuff on the disc is using up all your available space.

[e-motion]

Thanks for your help guys, I'll be sure to re-rip and reencode that disc again.

JDobbs, awesome stuff there, couldn't thank you enough, you have had me save a lot of storage space.

It's getting difficult to keep track of all the posts, this thread is huge, sorry for missing the District 9 mention...

[Kakashi Sensei]

JDobbs - Gotta say I haven't had an issue with BD-RB in terms of encodes or otherwise. I have success after success. The app is looking more stable with every release. Looks like the biggest hurdle you have is people with codec configuration issues.

Thanks for all the hard work.

[tacky187]

Regarding my previous post on Terminator Salvation not working. I upgraded to the latest BDRB, ffdshow and haali splitter and tried again. This time it worked fine.

Thanks again for the great app.

[SoniG]

Hi jdobbs, first thanks for your work on this so useful app. As already mentionned here : http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1349513#post1349513 , I have also issue to rebuild BD that contains the main movie on multiple m2ts. All the rebuild process work at a glance, absolutely no problem. No, the problem is to playback correctly these kind of movie. When you watch it, there is a ~one second freeze at the end of each m2ts clip transition while the sound continue without issue. I tried to rebuild Stargate wich contain a theatrical and extended version, the source is VC1, transcoded in high quality with x264, played directly on TotalMedia3, the issue is present whatever I set on BDRebuilder. 1 pass, 2 pass, fast, slow quality, with or without the secondary video, different Haali/FFDshow (I now use your last links), different tweak pass like : with or without pyramid, there is nothing to do, the issue is ever present as soon as it is transcoded from VC1 to 264. My only solution is to remux the movie on TSMuxer or BDClown, rework the playlist, m2ts, BD structure to make it work with the menu etc... before rebuild it. Well, it do the trick but leave 2 problems : it's very time consuming and you have to choose one movie version and say byebye to the others. If you have a workaround for that or even an explaination, I would appreciate. Without that, for me the app is very stable, easy and effective. Thanks for that!

[e143slime8]

(originally posted by jdobbs): I did a BD-25 full-disc backup of "Wizard of Oz" with no issues. I need more information.

(from slimer8): Will give it another shot and check out the log when done in case I missed something the first attempt. Thanks for the reply and will get back to you. Used Optical Quantum BD-R 25G burned with an LG

Here's my settings that have successfully squeezed and burned 20 so far.

Mode: Full Backup
Quicker Encode For Extras

Encoder: x264
Encoder Settings: Normal Priority
High Quality

Options: Custom Target size 23450

Auto Burn To Disc with ImgBurn (at 4x)

BD-R Setup:
Audio Encoding Options: Do not convert DTS to AC3 (Bluray only)
Keep HD Audio for BD25 encoding


If you need more info, let me know (not sure what else you need).

Update: well, made a second attempt at burning "Oz" with same results, player attempts to "read blu-ray" then, after around 20 seconds, reading" icon on TV goes blank then nothing. Am still able to pull up the "top" menu choices but can only look at that. No reponse to any of the choices within the top menu. Anyone know if my settings below are proper?

Again, TIA.

[skylab1]

I am getting a error during PHASE TWO of full backup, anyone know how to get pass this error?
Movie only backup work fine.


[17:42:01] BD Rebuilder v0.31.06 (beta)
- Source: LIVING_LANDSCAPES__MOUNTAINS
- Input BD size: 11.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:03:23.633]
- Target BD size: 8.79 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:42:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:42:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [17:42:11] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 5)
- [17:42:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:43:07] Reencoding: VID_00000 (2 of 5)
- [17:43:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [17:43:56] Reencoding: VID_00004 (3 of 5)
- [17:44:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [17:45:10] Reencoding: VID_00006 (4 of 5)
- [17:46:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [18:26:21] Reencoding: VID_00001 (5 of 5)
[01:54:43]PHASE ONE complete
[01:54:44]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [01:54:44] Rebuilding BD file Structure
- [01:54:44] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [02:55:59] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [02:56:07] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [02:56:08] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [02:56:09] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
- [02:56:13] CopyDirStructure() 00076 1200
[02:56:15] - Aborted at user request
-----------------------------------------------------
This is the BD info:
[Status]
LABEL=LIVING_LANDSCAPES__MOUNTAINS
VERSION=v0.31.06 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=12530524606
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=12514136064
TARGET_SIZE=9437184000
REDUCTION=.752812292420349
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=5
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00007]
AUDIO=10
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=83370649
NSIZE=11083776
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00000]
AUDIO=10
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=92833969
NSIZE=34148352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00004]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=96427811
NSIZE=58103808
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00006]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=197471650
NSIZE=108828672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00001]
AUDIO=10
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=9208630850
RATE=18314
NSIZE=8917499904
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[saphire199]

Using newest build 31.06. I am having trouble with the extraction of the A/V streams. It is going REALLY slow, sometimes so slow that computer reports "not responding" I know this is not BDRB, I am asking if anyone has encountered this cuz I don't even know where to start debuggging. More info - this is on the Orphan blu-ray, which is VC-1. There is only 1 stream. I have W7 Ultimate 64bit, and I followed the tweak by MickJT on "SOLUTION to Windows 7 (32 and 64bit) VC-1 video with AviSynth". I am doing movie only, DVD 9, default speed. I am using two external drives connected by firewire (thru the computer). Any help would be appreciated.

[jdobbs]

Using newest build 31.06. I am having trouble with the extraction of the A/V streams. It is going REALLY slow, sometimes so slow that computer reports "not responding" I know this is not BDRB, I am asking if anyone has encountered this cuz I don't even know where to start debuggging. More info - this is on the Orphan blu-ray, which is VC-1. There is only 1 stream. I have W7 Ultimate 64bit, and I followed the tweak by MickJT on "SOLUTION to Windows 7 (32 and 64bit) VC-1 video with AviSynth". I am doing movie only, DVD 9, default speed. I am using two external drives connected by firewire (thru the computer). Any help would be appreciated. Have no idea what that tweak is -- but I can assure you that with BD-RB v0.31.06 it isn't needed if you installed the software listed on the first post of this thread, and for all I know the tweak may be doing harm rather than good. With that said, AVISYNTH has no impact on extracting...

I'm not sure what your definition of "really slow" is -- but extracting AV streams takes time no matter what. You're talking about an extreme amount of data that has to be scanned and rewritten (up to almost 50GB). If your system is moving data at 25MB/sec (which is pretty fast) it would still take 30 minutes or so in a perfect situation -- and perfect situations are rare.

Extracting time is, for the most part, a function of your disc speed, disc type, drive controller, remaining space, and degree of fragmentation. If you have anything else running at the same time, or if your virus software is looking at everything you write, it can really, really slow you down. I personally turned real-time virus scanning and search indexing off on the drive(s) I use for blu-ray backups.

[slayers]

Hi jdobbs, first thanks for your work on this so useful app. As already mentionned here : http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1349513#post1349513 , I have also issue to rebuild BD that contains the main movie on multiple m2ts. All the rebuild process work at a glance, absolutely no problem. No, the problem is to playback correctly these kind of movie. When you watch it, there is a ~one second freeze at the end of each m2ts clip transition while the sound continue without issue. I tried to rebuild Stargate wich contain a theatrical and extended version, the source is VC1, transcoded in high quality with x264, played directly on TotalMedia3, the issue is present whatever I set on BDRebuilder. 1 pass, 2 pass, fast, slow quality, with or without the secondary video, different Haali/FFDshow (I now use your last links), different tweak pass like : with or without pyramid, there is nothing to do, the issue is ever present as soon as it is transcoded from VC1 to 264. My only solution is to remux the movie on TSMuxer or BDClown, rework the playlist, m2ts, BD structure to make it work with the menu etc... before rebuild it. Well, it do the trick but leave 2 problems : it's very time consuming and you have to choose one movie version and say byebye to the others. If you have a workaround for that or even an explaination, I would appreciate. Without that, for me the app is very stable, easy and effective. Thanks for that!


I have Noticed this as well. Might not be at 1 sec all the time (24 frames), but at least any where from 3 to 13 frames of video. (thanks SoniG )

I have also mention this to Jobbs, not sure why he seems to not think it is an issue. It has however been an issue since BD re builders 1st version. I have applied the same work around as you did.. At least the Audio does not drift out of sync as it did with previous versions....


The New version of DVD FAB actually rencodes the multiple main (movie only) m2ts (as is...) Compressing them and then codes the play list to play all the parts as one, vs muxing them all together. (DVD FAb Does not Support full back up Menu ect,) Of Coarse DVD FAB does not offer compression options as far as quality goes, But at least it is a start in the right direction...

Jobbs..... (Just a thoughts on future versions of bd rebuilder supporting that?)


Thanks..

[SoniG]

Hi Slayer, yeah the problem do exist and is really present, it's not our imagination or a config issue, and you right it's more about 3-13i than 24. I read you about DVDFab but did you test it and well observe there was not the same issue with it? Is someone test this with powerdvd to see if it has the same issue? I already can't understand what cause this problem seen I verified each m2ts files and did not notice any strange duplicated frames at the end of them. I will take a look at DVDFab but I think process the m2ts in batch in RipBot264 would give a better result if you tell me there is no advanced x264 settings in DVDFab. But beyond all of that, I'm here to report this issue to jdobbs and would prefere here, to read him, and know what he thinks about it!

[jdobbs]

Hi Slayer, yeah the problem do exist and is really present, it's not our imagination or a config issue, and you right it's more about 3-13i than 24. I read you about DVDFab but did you test it and well observe there was not the same issue with it? Is someone test this with powerdvd to see if it has the same issue? I already can't understand what cause this problem seen I verified each m2ts files and did not notice any strange duplicated frames at the end of them. I will take a look at DVDFab but I think process the m2ts in batch in RipBot264 would give a better result if you tell me there is no advanced x264 settings in DVDFab. But beyond all of that, I'm here to report this issue to jdobbs and would prefere here, to read him, and know what he thinks about it! Have you tried it on a standalone player? From the prior reports it seems the issue is with TotalMedia rather than BD-RB, but you never know.

[jdobbs]

I have Noticed this as well. Might not be at 1 sec all the time (24 frames), but at least any where from 3 to 13 frames of video. (thanks SoniG )

I have also mention this to Jobbs, not sure why he seems to not think it is an issue. It has however been an issue since BD re builders 1st version. I have applied the same work around as you did.. At least the Audio does not drift out of sync as it did with previous versions....


The New version of DVD FAB actually rencodes the multiple main (movie only) m2ts (as is...) Compressing them and then codes the play list to play all the parts as one, vs muxing them all together. (DVD FAb Does not Support full back up Menu ect,) Of Coarse DVD FAB does not offer compression options as far as quality goes, But at least it is a start in the right direction...

Jobbs..... (Just a thoughts on future versions of bd rebuilder supporting that?)


Thanks.. If I did that -- it wouldn't be a true backup (like the original). It's better to figure it out and fix the problem than to screw up the source by changing the authoring. JMHO.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbsIf I did that -- it wouldn't be a true backup (like the original).If you consider that (other than branching/multi-angles) the ONLY reason that I'm aware of, for splitting a main movie into multiple .M2Ts files is a feeble attempt at copy protection, perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in doing the suggested joining. After all, the original that's being fed to BD-RB has already been stripped of AACs and, possibly, BD+, so that BD-RB's output is not truly "like the original" ...

[SoniG]

Well jdobbs, I will try to test on Powerdvd but I had to restart my rebuild cause I a bit screwed up the directory in testing it. And my opinion is I have no issue playing original BD on TMT3 whatever it is, as I have no issue playing some ps3 movie BD that also have h264 m2ts 4GB splitted files. So the issue come from the BDRebuilder process and I don't think most of us want to go with Powerdvd that force you to create an iso. But I agree if TMT3 is the only guilty, to find a solution at the player side, that's why I asked if someone notice or not this issue on Powerdvd. Will give you my report in a few days. For setarip_old, I don't think multi m2ts movie is a copy protection attempt. It is just used to create multiple version of the movie in the same BD wich wouldn't be possible if you had to duplicate all the data twice or three times for a few of them.

[saphire199]

Have no idea what that tweak is -- but I can assure you that with BD-RB v0.31.06 it isn't needed if you installed the software listed on the first post of this thread, and for all I know the tweak may be doing harm rather than good. With that said, AVISYNTH has no impact on extracting...

I'm not sure what your definition of "really slow" is -- but extracting AV streams takes time no matter what. You're talking about an extreme amount of data that has to be scanned and rewritten (up to almost 50GB). If your system is moving data at 25MB/sec (which is pretty fast) it would still take 30 minutes or so in a perfect situation -- and perfect situations are rare.

Extracting time is, for the most part, a function of your disc speed, disc type, drive controller, remaining space, and degree of fragmentation. If you have anything else running at the same time, or if your virus software is looking at everything you write, it can really, really slow you down. I personally turned real-time virus scanning and search indexing off on the drive(s) I use for blu-ray backups.

The tweak I'm talking about was post #5954, Nov 13, 2009. When I installed W7, I had a problem with audio sync issues, then I saw this tweak and it worked. But I also see in 31.04 changelog that you addressed this issue. So I'm gonna get rid of the tweak and see what happens (I know that this has nothing to do with the extraction, just wld rather run BDRB as is)

When I say really slow, I mean over several hours the amount of data extracted doesn't even show up on the progress indicator - where usually, it just fills right up. I got what you said about possibilities and anti-virus, so I will lokk into this more and get it figured out. Thanks for help.

[SoniG]

Ok same problem with Powerdvd, a bit better, frame freeze about 2 or 3 frames at the end of each m2ts, but the original don't freeze at all. And I just would like to say, about stability and Media Center integration, Powerdvd is a real piece of sh**. I understand why HTPC users use TMT3. I have no issue with some PS3 m2ts splitted movies BD that used x264, so here is my 2 cents, the way BD Rebuilder restructure the BD at the end, convert the Playlists files, play with Java files or something like that. Another remark about the issue to manage the Secondary Audio on BD Rebuilder, particularly when it use the stupid DTS Express format. I read you that there was no codec or splitter that support this. Well what I can tell you is I managed to recover the PiP Bonus secondary video with his sound in using BDClown. The secondary audio track is well reconized as DTS Express, and not DTS-HD as in BDR, I chose to convert it to AC3 192kbps in BDClown output options and outed that as a m2ts file and it works just fine. For your information, BDClown uses TSMuxer and eac3to. And to finish, all these issues is present in the same BD : Stargate, Director's Cut, 15th Anniversary, a nice brain-teaser that would become your new challenge!

[setarip_old]

@SoniG

Hi!For setarip_old, I don't think multi m2ts movie is a copy protection attempt.I'll presume you haven't seen that many BluRay discs and I'll just say you're mistaken


It is just used to create multiple version of the movie in the same BDI've already made a similar statement in my previous post ("If you consider that (other than branching/multi-angles) the ONLY reason that I'm aware of, for splitting a main movie into multiple .M2Ts files is a feeble attempt at copy protection")