BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[DQL]

Thanks. That is the most recent version according to SourceForge -- apparently I was using an older version (SVN). The next release will include v0.0.8

The most recent version of BD Rebuilder 0.30.04 still seems to be coming with the "SVN" version of aften, which crashes on my XP machine. Upgrading to the most recent 0.0.8 version of aften fixed the problem.

[ron spencer]

well I tried transformers 2 again...movie only one pass abr quick...no issues this time. Must have been a weird encoder problem.

You know, the quick one pass seems to look just as good (ABR) as the high quality many hours encode on my 50" plasma. Why would this be?

[Fullasoul]

Out of curiosity, has anyone managed to get the picture-in-picture type tracks (sometimes they're trivia tracks like on Halloween, sometimes they're actual full-motion video like on Friday the 13th: Killer Cut) to work? So far I only own a couple of discs that have that, but none ever work after being backed up to DVD9. Anyone else have better luck than me yet?

[Capsbackup]

Out of curiosity, has anyone managed to get the picture-in-picture type tracks (sometimes they're trivia tracks like on Halloween, sometimes they're actual full-motion video like on Friday the 13th: Killer Cut) to work? So far I only own a couple of discs that have that, but none ever work after being backed up to DVD9. Anyone else have better luck than me yet?

Probably an AVCHD compatibility issue, or maybe not supported to DVD media. No problems with PiP on BD-25 media on my full movie backups. I do movie only backups to BD5/9 media, and my full movie backups to BD-25 media.

[Capsbackup]

well I tried transformers 2 again...movie only one pass abr quick...no issues this time. Must have been a weird encoder problem.

You know, the quick one pass seems to look just as good (ABR) as the high quality many hours encode on my 50" plasma. Why would this be?

x264, one great encoder!!
BD-RB, great program!!
Thanks again to Dark Shikari and the x264 team.
And jdobbs, all this time and effort to create another great backup program. And still all free!!
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

The most recent version of BD Rebuilder 0.30.04 still seems to be coming with the "SVN" version of aften, which crashes on my XP machine. Upgrading to the most recent 0.0.8 version of aften fixed the problem. The key question would be "why is it crashing on your system?" -- because the vast majority of BD-RB users are on XP -- and they are not crashing. If I recall correctly (which isn't guaranteed) -- I tried that version and and it had issues, convincing me to go back. It's been a while, though, so I'm not sure.

[Update]January 3rd, 2009 - v0.17.13
- Updated AFTEN to the most recent SVN version.

July 8th, 2009 - v0.25.01
- Regressed the version of AFTEN in order to prevent
hangs on some AVS sources.

[Fullasoul]

Probably an AVCHD compatibility issue, or maybe not supported to DVD media. No problems with PiP on BD-25 media on my full movie backups. I do movie only backups to BD5/9 media, and my full movie backups to BD-25 media.

Hmm...definately not a media issue, since the capability is absent even just playing the output directory from hard disk.

I asked about this a few months back and the impression I remember getting was that it was fairly common for such tracks NOT to work. I just figured, with months passed, I would ask again and see what people say. Glad to see your BD25's retain the capability....has anyone else had positive results with PiP tracks on DVD9 backups?

[Capsbackup]

Hmm...definately not a media issue, since the capability is absent even just playing the output directory from hard disk.

I asked about this a few months back and the impression I remember getting was that it was fairly common for such tracks NOT to work. I just figured, with months passed, I would ask again and see what people say. Glad to see your BD25's retain the capability....has anyone else had positive results with PiP tracks on DVD9 backups?

AVCHD issue, not DVD media issue. AVCHD may not support PiP.

[marius1]

I told BD Rebuilder not to re-encode AC3 but it looks like it's spending at least a few min processing the file:

- [15:08:34] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [15:11:38] Multiplexing M2TS

Is that normal?

- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640

jdobbs? any idea what it's doing for 3 min if it's not re-encoding the ac3? thx

[GaPony]

Checking to see what audio tracks exist and whether or not it needs to do anything.....maybe? Then a quick smoke break before the next step. :)

You're not telling it to assume everything is AC3, only to not reencode it.

[JohnnyB.Good]

For Blu-rays that have 2 versions of the movie, ie. Dark City or Drag Me to Hell... Is there a way to use the full back-up option to keep the menus yet eliminate one of the versions?

I tried deleting the video entirely and adding a redundant .m2ts file and renamed to the original file number but it makes my blu-ray player crash occasionally depending on what I do in the menu, a bug that's probably more my fault than BD-Rebuilder's doing.

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

For Blu-rays that have 2 versions of the movie, ie. Dark City or Drag Me to Hell... Is there a way to use the full back-up option to keep the menus yet eliminate one of the versions?

I tried deleting the video entirely and adding a redundant .m2ts file and renamed to the original file number but it makes my blu-ray player crash occasionally depending on what I do in the menu, a bug that's probably more my fault than BD-Rebuilder's doing.

Thanks.No. But it will likely be included in a future version.

[chudm]

No. But it will likely be included in a future version.

awaiting that :devil: what about deselecting some extras? ehh sorry about this post, this doesnt belongs here :p

[vamsiklak]

You're likey to have more audio than the BD9 (DL DVD) disc can accomodate, leaving no room for the movie itself.

hey Thankyou for repy
Iunderstand that
the way i want to create is dvd9 with ac3+moive one disc
true-hd+movie one dvd9
i wanna create multiple discs

[hudsucker]

Originally Posted by hudsucker
Same problem for me with v.0.30.04:

- [22:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [22:39:35] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
[04:26:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Setting: Full backup mode with highest encoder quality.


I think I solved the problem. In ffdshow video decoder settings click on
H264/AVC = ffmpeg-mt

Regards

Thanks, but changing the settings in ffdshow did not work for me. Same crash as before. Anyway, I´ll have a try with the next version.

[setarip_old]

@hudsucker

Hi!

Again, What's the title and region of your problematic original BluRay disc?

Other members might be able to help you (or determine the nature of a new bug) if we knew this information...

[hudsucker]

@hudsucker

Hi!

Again, What's the title and region of your problematic original BluRay disc?

Other members might be able to help you (or determine the nature of a new bug) if we knew this information...

Hi setarip,

the Blu-ray is `Angel & Demons` region B.

I have remuxed the movie with TsMuxer before to see if I can avoid the reencoding process for BD-R 25. Maybe that´s part of the problem, but I have done that several times before with other discs and never encountered a similar problem.

Anyway, it´s just a test as I have the original disc to watch the movie, but it is still a bit weird that it doesnt´t work like so many times before...


Thanks,
hudsucker

[setarip_old]

It's only cold comfort to you, but you should know that member "lican" appeared to have encountered the same problem with the same disc at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1333638&postcount=5563

[jdobbs]

Here's one jdobbs! Full backup to BD-9. Everything basically default except I use an 8150 target. For encode, I have quick xtras, 2 pass HQ on main.

Everything is great until we get to the special features. They're all good except for all 3 trailers & one old documentary. Those 4 are WAY OOS....., like 3 to 5 seconds!

The OOS Vid#'s are: 0032, 0033, 0037 & 0051

Also if I recall, in the "streams" box, there was a couple of vids with asterisks behind them. BUT, those * vids ended up fine.Thanks for the info. I ran this through and was able to repeat the issue. It appears I wasn't checking far enough into the M2TS in all cases to find the flag sequences that indicate pulldown and on some sources it wasn't detecting it properly. I've corrected it for the next release.

[chudm]

Thanks for the info. I ran this through and was able to repeat the issue. It appears I wasn't checking far enough into the M2TS in all cases to find the flag sequences that indicate pulldown and on some sources it wasn't detecting it properly. I've corrected it for the next release.

great news :)

[chudm]

hey jdobbs did u checked the issues on the menu when a full backup to bd25 were performed on some concert blurays? (like foo fighters, elton john)

[jdobbs]

hey jdobbs did u checked the issues on the menu when a full backup to bd25 were performed on some concert blurays? (like foo fighters, elton john) I think I've fixed that too. But I won't know for sure until someone tries it on the next release.

[Giddeon]

Hi.

I just thought I'd post to let you know I'm having trouble with the second X-Files Movie. I'm doing full disc backup to BD25 and this is the error I'm getting...

[03:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_F1
- Input BD size: 42.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:26.751]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.2 [3790]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[03:34:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:34:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [03:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 35)
- [03:34:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [03:35:02] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 4,014 frames
- Bitrate: 8,476 Kbs
- [03:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:51:08] Video Encode complete
- [03:51:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:51:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:51:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[03:51:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



This is same for versions 0.29.05, 0.30.02 and 0.30.04 and its a UK version of the disc. Has anyone else had this same problem with this film? Is this something you need to know to help improve your BD Rebuilder?

If you need any more info then please let me know :)

[chudm]

I think I've fixed that too. But I won't know for sure until someone tries it on the next release.

thx man :) as soon as you post it ill try it!

[DK]

I think I've fixed that too. But I won't know for sure until someone tries it on the next release.

looking forward to do so as i have one concert bd (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1305740#post1305740) as well, which bd-rb cannot handle until now

[tekmobile]

hey jdobbs did u checked the issues on the menu when a full backup to bd25 were performed on some concert blurays? (like foo fighters, elton john)

I did the foo fighters without problems but had to increase the min_m2ts to not encode the menu

[CATWILDUK]

-----------------------
[12:19:22] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: GHOST_RIDER
- Input BD size: 42.39 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:31:02.366]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:19:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:19:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00069]
- [12:19:24] Reencoding: VID_00069 (1 of 7)
- [12:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00091]
- [12:19:50] Reencoding: VID_00091 (2 of 7)
- [12:20:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00092]
- [12:21:08] Reencoding: VID_00092 (3 of 7)
- [12:22:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00090]
- [12:23:48] Reencoding: VID_00090 (4 of 7)
- [12:38:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00070]
- [12:41:14] Reencoding: VID_00070 (5 of 7)
- [13:01:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00089]
- [13:03:36] Reencoding: VID_00089 (6 of 7)
- [13:21:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00066]
- [13:39:13] Reencoding: VID_00066 (7 of 7)
[14:31:58]PHASE ONE complete
[14:31:58]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [14:31:58] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[14:32:15] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[14:32:15]JOB: GHOST_RIDER finished.



ENCODER SETTINGS--IDLE PRIORITY
HIGHT SPEED OPTION BD-25


OPTIONS--TARGET SIZE BD-25


SETUP--AUDIO ENGLISH ((ONLY))

SUBS - NONE


ONLY GOT TICKED BELOW SETTINGS..!!!

DO NOT CONVERT DTS TO AC3
DO NOT REENCODE TO AC3
KEEP HD AUDIO FOR BD 25 ENCODE
LIMIT TO ONE TRACK FOR EACH LAUNGAGE

HOPE THIS HELPS SOME PEOPL..!!!!E

TO CONVERT THE 42.39 GIG
TO BD 25 DISK


:helpful:

[CATWILDUK]

- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640

please can some one point out the audio settings above i.e the 0 or the 1

is it better to keep these settings..???
all as 1`S TO KEEP AC3 DTS AND HD AUDIO..???




:stupid:

[deank]

AVCHD issue, not DVD media issue. AVCHD may not support PiP.

Yep, AVCHD certainly does not support PIP (at least it is not a requirement for the standard).

[Race Guy]

I did the foo fighters without problems but had to increase the min_m2ts to not encode the menu

chudm......., This is what you need to do on Elton 60 also.

I believe the min_m2ts setting needs to be 600MB, maybe 800?? I forget.

The issue is, tsMuxeR can't handle the IGStream, so it gets "lost" if you process the menu VIDS. Changing that min_m2ts setting, tells BD-RB to skip those VIDS.

Try it, you'll like it!

[chudm]

chudm......., This is what you need to do on Elton 60 also.

I believe the min_m2ts setting needs to be 600MB, maybe 800?? I forget.

The issue is, tsMuxeR can't handle the IGStream, so it gets "lost" if you process the menu VIDS. Changing that min_m2ts setting, tells BD-RB to skip those VIDS.

Try it, you'll like it!

thx will do that :):thanks:

[old-hack]

Thanks, but changing the settings in ffdshow did not work for me. Same crash as before. Anyway, I´ll have a try with the next version.

By chance do you have multiAVCHD installed? This happened to me after I installed multiAVCHD and went away after I removed it. The audio sync problem made me look at what had changed since the last time I used BD-rebuilder.

[jdobbs]

Hi.

I just thought I'd post to let you know I'm having trouble with the second X-Files Movie. I'm doing full disc backup to BD25 and this is the error I'm getting...

[03:34:11] BD Rebuilder v0.29.05 (beta)
- Source: X_FILES_2_F1
- Input BD size: 42.52 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:30:26.751]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 5.2 [3790]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[03:34:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [03:34:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [03:34:29] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 35)
- [03:34:29] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
- [03:35:02] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps, 4,014 frames
- Bitrate: 8,476 Kbs
- [03:35:02] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [03:38:29] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [03:51:08] Video Encode complete
- [03:51:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [03:51:26] Multiplexing M2TS
- [03:51:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: H:\RIPPEDBLURAYS\XFILES2\X_FILES_2_F1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
[03:51:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted



This is same for versions 0.29.05, 0.30.02 and 0.30.04 and its a UK version of the disc. Has anyone else had this same problem with this film? Is this something you need to know to help improve your BD Rebuilder?

If you need any more info then please let me know :) That's usually an indicator of a bad rip...

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleMan

[chudm]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleMan

rememeber to test the discs on players like ps3,or any bluray player (not only pc), cause power dvd has many issue, the only way to see if the disc works properly is playing it on a bluray player not just pc :)

[PurpleMan]

rememeber to test the discs on players like ps3,or any bluray player (not only pc), cause power dvd has many issue, the only way to see if the disc works properly is playing it on a bluray player not just pc :)

Thanks for the input, although that is completely ignoring the fact that I pointed to several issues in the MPLS files.

The fact that certain players (like ps3 or a certain standalone player) are less restrictive about the disc's compliance and agree to play properly even if something is off-spec does not mean the disc is perfect. The fact that there is a player that refuses to play the disc indicates that it's possible that there's something not quite right with it.

[jangai]

Since few weeks, when i make following tasks, i get always the same error 1605 after end of audio extraction /:http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10422&stc=1&d=1256410190
just at the end of audio extraction...

Sources : mkv (video H264, audio DTS or AC3 and some srt)
BD construction with tsMuxeR (V1.10.6)
BD Rebuild to BD5 or BD9 with BD-RB in Movie Only mode

Unsuccessful tests have been made with different :
-Sources files
-BD-RB releases

Log:
-----------------------
[21:05:13] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: MUSIQUE_A_VERSAILLES
- Input BD size: 4,74 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:28:37.645]
- Target BD size: 4,27 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:05:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:05:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [21:14:26] ExtractAudioSubs() 00058 1605
[22:13:26] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

Any idea ?

[Capsbackup]

Thanks for the input, although that is completely ignoring the fact that I pointed to several issues in the MPLS files.

The fact that certain players (like ps3 or a certain standalone player) are less restrictive about the disc's compliance and agree to play properly even if something is off-spec does not mean the disc is perfect. The fact that there is a player that refuses to play the disc indicates that it's possible that there's something not quite right with it.

Logically, I tend to agree with you. I use to believe software players like PowerDVD were less finicky, at least when backing up DVD's. However, I made several that played back fine on PowerDVD but not my standalone. But with Blu-Rays, it seems to be the opposite. I have done several full movie backups to BD-25 that PowerDVD would not play, TMT would play, as well as my Sony BDP-BX1.
I know jdobbs has tried a Samsung Blu-Ray player, but returned it because it was not as compatible as the Sony.
As far as making full movie backups, whether BD5/9 or BD-25, compatible with software players, I believe there may be too many strict restrictions placed on them to allow for most of these backups to play. I no longer trust the playback of my backups to be judged by software players alone.
For a successful backup, it would be ideal if it would play back just as the original, on both software players and standalones. That day may come, based on the time and effort we all have seen from jdobbs, especially with the limited Blu-Ray specs available.
For now, I am quite pleased, extremely satisfied, with my results! :)
And I commend you for trying to help uncover some of the mysteries and bugs that can affect us all. ;)

[PurpleMan]

But with Blu-Rays, it seems to be the opposite. I have done several full movie backups to BD-25 that PowerDVD would not play, TMT would play, as well as my Sony BDP-BX1.


Considering that I have yet to see PowerDVD9 fail playback on an original disc (latest version, that is), I think we should not ignore the fact that it fails to play some backups, especially when it's a series of discs that have something in common (in this case, Universal Studios discs of REGION B).

I believe there may be too many strict restrictions placed on them to allow for most of these backups to play.

And an on-spec disc should follow all these restrictions. They are there for a reason. Our goal should be to have a backup that matches the original and in accordance with the blu-ray specifications to gain playability on all certified players, not only those that are less restrictive about off-spec materials (even tho it might be most players).

And I commend you for trying to help uncover some of the mysteries and bugs that can affect us all. ;)

Thank you. I'm trying to help development as much as possible. That's why I didn't just say "hey, PowerDVD fails so bd-rb is no good", I did my homework and came up with evidence as of why. Hopefully this helps jdobbs catch more bugs and reach that optimal playability level you mentioned.

I see no reason whatsoever to why a certain player should play all original discs but won't play some backups. This means it can obviously tell a difference, for now.

[drmih]

I think that we all have found that Universal discs are always a problem for re-encoding. Either because of the PiP issue (because of the problem with the secondary audio) or the vanishing main audio selection on bd-9 and Sony SAP. I also think something is slightly off but I've never been able to find anything to help jdobbs.

[gandalf027]

Don't know if i can qualify this as a bug, but here it goes.
I'm trying to put the galactica series on bd25, the original one has two large .m2ts files witht he episodes.
BD Rebuilder will only see one as the movie and will encode the one as extras?
Is there any way to go around this?

Thanks

[worknstiff]

Don't know if i can qualify this as a bug, but here it goes.
I'm trying to put the galactica series on bd25, the original one has two large .m2ts files witht he episodes.
BD Rebuilder will only see one as the movie and will encode the one as extras?
Is there any way to go around this?

Thanks

Hi Gandalf27, Here is the roundabout way I used to get them to fit on a DV9. First play the different episodes to get the play times of the different episodes. Next use BD_RB to reencode the different playlists using the alternate file selection. After you get the pieces I used TSMUXER GUI to glue them together into a BD format and used BD_RB to get the file size back down. Considering the video quality of the original was sort of lackluster anyhow (imo), I got 2 to 3 episodes on each DL disk and was pleased with the result.
(sorry that this is off topic, I wish there was a thread for reporting various BD_RB stuff like this to teach how to better use BD_RB.) thanks JDobbs!

[drmih]

Don't know if i can qualify this as a bug, but here it goes.
I'm trying to put the galactica series on bd25, the original one has two large .m2ts files witht he episodes.
BD Rebuilder will only see one as the movie and will encode the one as extras?
Is there any way to go around this?

Thanks

Does it really matter if you're doing a full disc copy to bd-25. As long as you haven't got 'quicker encode for extras' selected it will just do all of the files.

[PurpleMan]

@jdobbs:

I think I found some more MPLS bugs.

I did 3 movies this weekend: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Wanted. All of which are REGION B universal studios releases that has PiP, which I ripped to BD25 full backup (*without* the PiP). All of them suffered from the same problem - played in PowerDVD9, In the main menu if you click on Play Movie, the playback hangs.

Searching this thread I found posts of people reporting similar issues with similar discs in the past. As I've stated in previous bug reports, we could just say "it's a pdvd bug", but I don't think so (original discs play fine). I once again suspected the MPLS, so I tried swapping the BD-RB one with the original (just to see if it won't hang, didn't actually expect a proper playback) - and voila, it didn't hang.

So I concluded that there's something in the BD-RB MPLS file that PowerDVD does not like/expect. I started digging in BDEdit, comparing the original MPLS with the BD-RB one, and here are my findings (all of which you can see for yourself in the screenshots I've attached):

1) On both the original disc and the BD-RB output there are substreams in the MPLS that are flagged as SubPath subtitles instead of regular PlayItem. On the original disc, however, the SPID's of those streams are mapped correctly to actual subpath items. On BD-RB's output they are mapped to NON-EXISTING subpath items (see images).

2) The actual subpath items (which are the textsubs) have their IN/OUT times untouched in the backup, even tho they should have been updated to match the new in-time of the main video (10 mins). I could be wrong here, look in the image.

3) Even after fixing the IN/OUT times and the substreams SPID's (hex-editted), the disc would STILL not play, which makes me believe there is an additional problem with that MPLS that I still haven't figured out (even so, the abovementioned problems should still be addressed, I think). I attached the original MPLS and the BD-RB MPLS as well, so you can see if you spot anything that's doesn't look right.

I hope this helps,
-PurpleMan

UPDATE:

I opened the main movie M2TS file in tsmuxer, and produced a new Blu-ray disc with just that file and chapter points. I then took the MPLS file tsmuxer produced and replaced it with the faulty one that BD-RB outputted.
Naturally, the new MPLS doesn't contain any SubPath play items, and the disc now plays perfectly with that new MPLS.

My conclusion is that the source of the problem definitely lies in the MPLS, and specifically involves the SubPath playitems. All of them are of m2ts's that were untouched by bd-rb, their IN/OUT times were not adjusted, and neither were their Sync PTS values.

(worth noticing that the CLPI files also contain the Sync PTS value of each m2ts. So maybe if we end up changing the values in the MPLS we'll also need to adjust the CLPI?)

A penny for your thoughts, jdobbs :)

[marius1]

Checking to see what audio tracks exist and whether or not it needs to do anything.....maybe? Then a quick smoke break before the next step. :)

You're not telling it to assume everything is AC3, only to not reencode it.

Figuring out that the audio track is AC3 should not take 3-4min right? I just want to make sure that bd rebuilder is not re-encoding the track. I don't care about the extra 3 min - I just don't want to get more lossy.

[Lynxs]

I'm having a bit of a problem with the audio re-encoding of my backup on my store bought Monsters vs Alien BD.

First of all let me say this program is great. I've successfully backed up several full BD-9 with movie+menu+extras without issue .. until recently.

My encode for M vs. A completes with no error , however the audio problem I'm having is that it seems that the secondary audio and the main movie audio sound like they've been mixed together when the movie is played -> sounds garbled (funny it is however in sync with the video). If I remove the processing the secondary video then no problem .. the main movie audio works fine. However, I'd really like to keep the secondary video. It's become like a personal vendetta for me right now to get this to work..

This is the first time I've experienced this and I've played with the switches all the way from not converting the DTS & AC3 to encoding all the audio tracks on the disc. I've tried every version of BD-Rebuilder since version 28 to see if this would get corrected but they all produce the same results. I'm wondering if it could be how my system has been configured or could this be a real bug.

Anybody else experienced this backing up M vs. A. as a full BD-9?

[Capsbackup]

A high probability is AVCHD does not support PiP.
If you burn that same backup to BD-RE, does it work properly?
Does this problem happen when you play it back to software player like PowerDVD / TMT, or on a standalone?

[Lynxs]

Never tried backing it up as a BD-RE.

The player I'm using is TMT. I don't have Power DVD so I don't know.

If I use VLC Media Player, I can pull up all the videos and audio separately and all look and sound fine. It just sounds garbled in TMT 2.6 and 3.0 platinum. Just wondering if any else has tried it and the full BD-9 has worked in TMT, PowerDVD and/or standalone?

I'll try making a BD-RE and see if it gives me the same problem

[gandalf027]

Got a audio sync problem with Battlestar Galactica - The Plan.
The imagem doesn't play normaly, it breaks from time to time and the audio is out of sync from chapter two.
Here is the log:

[17:59:28] BD Rebuilder v0.30.04 (beta)
- Source: BD-BSGTP
- Input BD size: 28,69 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:51:22.676]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:59:30] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:59:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00010 (1 of 1)
- [18:29:38] Collecting video information
- Video: 1920x1080, 23,976fps, 160.224 frames
- Bitrate: 22.755 Kbs
- [18:29:38] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
- Switching to FFMS2.DLL for decoding.
- [20:46:55] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
- [08:19:59] Video Encode complete
- [08:19:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [08:19:59] Multiplexing M2TS
[08:34:00]PHASE ONE complete

Any ideas?

Thanks

[jdobbs]

A high probability is AVCHD does not support PiP.
If you burn that same backup to BD-RE, does it work properly?
Does this problem happen when you play it back to software player like PowerDVD / TMT, or on a standalone?It certainly shouldn't since it only supports one video stream.