BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[HWK]

Hi,

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but since I upgraded to the latest version I have the following issue: in Movie-Only Backup with Alternate Movie-Only Output (MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1) and two pass target size 8152 I only get 10 min of the movie encoded. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Here is the log from the last encode:

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[12/09/16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.20
[15:17:28] Source: ARIES_DISC1_WL_00800
- Input BD size: 36.51 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:12:56.301]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Automatic cropping of borders enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[15:17:29] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [15:17:29] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [15:17:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [15:19:26] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 191,240 frames
- Bitrate: 7,732 Kbs
- [15:19:26] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 2
- [15:29:25] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 2 of 2
[15:30:15]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
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Best regards,
Djuby

is this only disc in question causing issues or other as well.

[Lathe]

This is really weird. I tested the new version, and it seems that the problem has gone away. Running in X264/LAVF is just as fast as the DirectshowSource() encode (actually a couple of fps faster). That's good, right?

But then I went back through all the X264 versions, and I can't seem to be able to repeat the issue at all anymore. All of them seem to be about the same speed. I'm really confused now.

Oh great... Our Leader in confused...

Talk about your world of Reality being shaken... :eek:

[Djuby]

is this only disc in question causing issues or other as well.
Good call HWK. Did another disk and all was OK. With the problem one I imported the M2TS and looks like there is no issue so far - first pass was OK, now doing the second one. The question is, why with the previous version of the BD Rebuilder (v0.50.18) the issue was not present?

Best regards,
Djuby

[MrVideo]

[15:30:15]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
I'm curious as to why it said that you requested that the job be stopped.

[Lathe]

FWIW, as far as any of you who also use x264 presets on occasion, I just did an encode with the x264-64.exe used in the latest version of BDRB and I was surprised that with the preset=slow setting (blu-ray compatible added too of course) that now that setting uses me=hex instead of umh. I don't fully understand everything about it, but I had asked on Videohelp because my encode had that parameter change and I wondered why. According to the VideoLan link in the answer I was given, the developers apparently decided to swap out me=umh with hex AND substitute trellis=2 instead of 1 because they said the net effect was better and took about the same amount of time. So, those 2 changes AFAIK were made to the Slow setting if any of you happened to be unaware of it, because I sure didn't know...

[Djuby]

Will try it and report back.

Edit: Same result :-(

is this only disc in question causing issues or other as well.

I'm curious as to why it said that you requested that the job be stopped.

There was no reason to continue with the second pass after just 10 min of encoding in the first one.

[Djuby]

I'm curious why sometimes it happens that the audio goes out of sync in the rebuilt MKV file. It plays well for some time and after a scene with a lot of action (explosion for instance) the audio is out of sync, regardless if the original audio was kept or re-encoded into DD5.1.

Djuby

[jdobbs]

I'm curious why sometimes it happens that the audio goes out of sync in the rebuilt MKV file. It plays well for some time and after a scene with a lot of action (explosion for instance) the audio is out of sync, regardless if the original audio was kept or re-encoded into DD5.1.

DjubyI haven't had that problem. Anyone else seen this?

[MrVideo]

I'm curious why sometimes it happens that the audio goes out of sync in the rebuilt MKV file. It plays well for some time and after a scene with a lot of action (explosion for instance) the audio is out of sync, regardless if the original audio was kept or re-encoded into DD5.1.
I personally believe that there is something wrong with your playback equipment.

Until it is played and the audio stream decoded by the amp, it is just a digital stream. There is no way to know what the audio contains when handled by a program like BDRB. Even if recoded, a "loud" section or a "quiet" section isn't going to cause anything to go wrong with the sync.

Play it on another device, computer, etc.

[MrVideo]

While building an import disc I've noticed a few minor strange things.

After I imported the files, it said that all 12 files met the 10 min import criteria. But, two of the files are well under 10 minutes.
After the job was done importing and putting together the menu and BD file layout, the list of streams did not include the two files under 10 minutes; but the two files are on the disc and included in the menu.
The disc only has two menus, yet there is a PREV on the first page and a NEXT on the 2nd page. Technically there is no page before 1 and no page after 2. While the menu selections work just fine, it is just a little strange.


I wish there was a way in order to be able to go back and keep the text that is on the menu so that if I have to remake the structure, because I had to replace one of the video files (for example), I wouldn't have to re-enter all of the text in the menu.

After redoing the import, maybe BDRB can ask if the previous menu should be used and presented for editing. If the number of imported items is different, then the user should be presented with a fresh menu to edit.

[Djuby]

I personally believe that there is something wrong with your playback equipment.

Until it is played and the audio stream decoded by the amp, it is just a digital stream. There is no way to know what the audio contains when handled by a program like BDRB. Even if recoded, a "loud" section or a "quiet" section isn't going to cause anything to go wrong with the sync.

Play it on another device, computer, etc.

I use MPC-HC for playback. The audio problem is always on the same spot when played over again. I also noticed there is an image distortion (maybe a bad transfer from the BD), like very low bitrate (blocks). Maybe those couple of bad frames are causing the misalignment of audio and video?!

[MrVideo]

I use MPC-HC for playback. The audio problem is always on the same spot when played over again. I also noticed there is an image distortion (maybe a bad transfer from the BD), like very low bitrate (blocks). Maybe those couple of bad frames are causing the misalignment of audio and video?!
It does help in trouble shooting that all of the info be provided. This is an important piece of information.

When there is a glitch in the video and audio, sync loss is very much an issue. When that glitched area is run thru programs like BD-RB, things like this can and do happen.

You need a clean source.

[jdobbs]

While building an import disc I've noticed a few minor strange things.

After I imported the files, it said that all 12 files met the 10 min import criteria. But, two of the files are well under 10 minutes.
After the job was done importing and putting together the menu and BD file layout, the list of streams did not include the two files under 10 minutes; but the two files are on the disc and included in the menu.
The disc only has two menus, yet there is a PREV on the first page and a NEXT on the 2nd page. Technically there is no page before 1 and no page after 2. While the menu selections work just fine, it is just a little strange.


I wish there was a way in order to be able to go back and keep the text that is on the menu so that if I have to remake the structure, because I had to replace one of the video files (for example), I wouldn't have to re-enter all of the text in the menu.

After redoing the import, maybe BDRB can ask if the previous menu should be used and presented for editing. If the number of imported items is different, then the user should be presented with a fresh menu to edit.The "Prev" on the first page goes to the last page, which is your case is page 2. The "Next" on the last page goes to the first page (which in your case is page 1).

It's meant as a time saver so you don't have to click back through or forward through all interim pages. But in your case it is a little odd, since there are only two choices and they both go to the same page. I'll look at it, and maybe change it so the "Prev" on the first page and the "Next on the last page aren't there for some small number of pages.

As for remembering the titles, BD-RB will do what you're asking for DVDs and BD imports, but it's a little harder for files (because you may be importing only a couple of files from a directory filled with files). But I'll see what I can do.

[jdobbs]

I use MPC-HC for playback. The audio problem is always on the same spot when played over again. I also noticed there is an image distortion (maybe a bad transfer from the BD), like very low bitrate (blocks). Maybe those couple of bad frames are causing the misalignment of audio and video?!The image distortion you mentioned is almost always an indicator of a bad rip. There are frames missing (or inserted) at that point, and that is why the audio goes out of sync. About all you can do is a re-rip.

[MrVideo]

The "Prev" on the first page goes to the last page, which is your case is page 2. The "Next" on the last page goes to the first page (which in your case is page 1).
Yep, that is exactly what it does.
It's meant as a time saver so you don't have to click back through or forward through all interim pages. But in your case it is a little odd, since there are only two choices and they both go to the same page. I'll look at it, and maybe change it so the "Prev" on the first page and the "Next on the last page aren't there for some small number of pages.
I see what you are trying to accomplish. Let's take for example a three-page menu. If on the last page, instead of clicking on PREV twice to get to the first page, you just click on NEXT. If on the first page, click on PREV to get to the last. Instead of NEXT and PREV for button names, how about FIRST and LAST, respectively. Then the button names will better describe the actual function. (Only on the first and last pages, otherwise PREV and NEXT on all other pages.)
As for remembering the titles, BD-RB will do what you're asking for DVDs and BD imports, but it's a little harder for files (because you may be importing only a couple of files from a directory filled with files). But I'll see what I can do.
Ah yes. I wasn't thinking about only some files from the many. :D In my case, I work from a directory only containing the files I'll be including, as they will always be from projects. Even with only choosing some files from a bunch, asking the user if they wanted to re-edit the menu could still apply. If importing from a completely different directory, the question would not be asked.

Even if a user imported different files from the same directory, they might be related and re-editing a previous menu might be easier than starting from scratch, i.e., it would act as a template.

I look forward to what you come up with.

Thanks.

[Mark_Venture]

Anyone try a "Alt Movie Only w/intact audio" on The Secret Life of Pets (USA)?

I'm getting the attach pop-up message when BD Rebuilder is starting to extract... If I choose YES, it continues processing, completes fine, and I get my output MKV.

Playing the MKV on my Fire TV in Kodi/SPMC, it reports track 1 as Dolby TrueHD 7.1. Track 2 is unknown 5.1, and track 3 is AC3 Stereo. All three sound the way I expect (sounds the same as when using the disc in my bluray player).

This is the first time I got that message. I'm guessing its something specific with this disc?

EDIT: I also get this message (a few times with other PID's) when doing a full backup output BD-25.

[jdobbs]

Anyone try a "Alt Movie Only w/intact audio" on The Secret Life of Pets (USA)?

I'm getting the attach pop-up message when BD Rebuilder is starting to extract... If I choose YES, it continues processing, completes fine, and I get my output MKV.

Playing the MKV on my Fire TV in Kodi/SPMC, it reports track 1 as Dolby TrueHD 7.1. Track 2 is unknown 5.1, and track 3 is AC3 Stereo. All three sound the way I expect (sounds the same as when using the disc in my bluray player).

This is the first time I got that message. I'm guessing its something specific with this disc?That message comes from DGIndexNV. You can make that go away and take the default with an INI setting (DGIndexNV.ini in the folder where you have it installed). I believe it is ResponseOnAudioMismatch=0 (at least that's what I have in my INI).

Or, easier I guess, you can open up DGIndexNV and set the default response under the Options menu.

[Mark_Venture]

That message comes from DGIndexNV. You can make that go away and take the default with an INI setting (DGIndexNV.ini in the folder where you have it installed). I believe it is ResponseOnAudioMismatch=0 (at least that's what I have in my INI).

Or, easier I guess, you can open up DGIndexNV and set the default response under the Options menu.Awesome! Thanks! I didn't know that. (I just installed and left defaults)

If I go into the DGIndexNV app, and select "use PAT/PMT" it sets ResponseOnAudioMismatch=1 in the ini. ResponseOnAudioMismatch=0 is "prompt" which is how it was set.

Which is normally preferred? PAT/PMT or Detected? (for now, I've set it for Use PAT/PMT)

[jdobbs]

Yeah, I think that's right, but it's been a while. I just noticed that setting it to "0" tells it to prompt myself, so that wouldn't be it. Since my card is no longer supported by DGDecNV (because of Windows 10), I've been using DirectShowSource.

[jdobbs]

Well I'll be damned. I'm glad you mentioned this. When I installed Windows 10 I read the information that DGDecNV wouldn't work with older cards (and mine is pretty old) -- and I just shrugged my shoulders and stopped using it. When I was opening DGIndexNV responding your your bug report, I tried an index a file for the hell of it. It told me the key was not valid. "Huh?" I thought. So I downloaded another key from Neuron2's site. Well... it started working again. All this time I though it was my card -- when what happened was that Windows 10 changed my machine ID.

Too bad I wasn't born smarter. I should have noticed that a long time ago.

That's great. I've always preferred DGDecNV!

[videoh]

Which is normally preferred? PAT/PMT or Detected? (for now, I've set it for Use PAT/PMT) It's an option because it is possible that the PAT/PMT could be wrong, and it is possible that the detected type could be wrong. I have seen both. If I had to, I would say that it's less likely that the PAT/PMT would be wrong, so if you must set a default behavior, then PAT/PMT may be preferable. Just remember if you run into audio problems for a specific stream to try it the other way.

In your case, the detected type was likely wrong. It is a heuristic detection that can be spoofed by header emulation.

Well I'll be damned. I'm glad you mentioned this. When I installed Windows 10 I read the information that DGDecNV wouldn't work with older cards (and mine is pretty old) -- and I just shrugged my shoulders and stopped using it. When I was opening DGIndexNV responding your your bug report, I tried an index a file for the hell of it. It told me the key was not valid. "Huh?" I thought. So I downloaded another key from Neuron2's site. Well... it started working again. All this time I though it was my card -- when that happened was that Windows 10 changed my machine ID. Actually, it was the case that Windows could change the machine ID only for earlier releases of DGDecNV. For recent versions, it is only the motherboard serial number that controls things. Perhaps you upgraded from an earlier version and ran into the new licensing mechanism.

What card do you have? We can't rule out that nVidia has improved the Win10 support for older cards in recent driver releases.

I've always preferred DGDecNV! Me too.

[jdobbs]

What card do you have? We can't rule out that nVidia has improved the Win10 support for older cards in recent driver releases.GeForce GT 520

[Sharc]

For 3D backups I can select mode "Movie and menus" and "SBS output" which will keep the original menu and put the movie SBS in the .m2ts container / BD file structure.
My HW player will however stall. Now my questions:
- Is this only an issue of my player/TV?
- or is the SBS setting illegal for BD output, and only applicable for alternate output .mkv / .mp4? (and if so, should the selection be greyed out in the BD RB menu?)
- or should the original clipinf / playlist be modified to instruct the player/TV to play the SBS .m2ts as 3D?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

For 3D backups I can select mode "Movie and menus" and "SBS output" which will keep the original menu and put the movie SBS in the .m2ts container / BD file structure.
My HW player will however stall. Now my questions:
- Is this only an issue of my player/TV?
- or is the SBS setting illegal for BD output, and only applicable for alternate output .mkv / .mp4? (and if so, should the selection be greyed out in the BD RB menu?)
- or should the original clipinf / playlist be modified to instruct the player/TV to play the SBS .m2ts as 3D?

Thanks.Half SBS isn't illegal. The player has no idea that it is side-by-side, since it is simply two pictures combined into a standard 1920x1080 format (typically, you could also do 720p or 480/576 if you wanted). The player just sends the 1080p picture to the playback device which then does the splitting/stretching of the SBS for 3D playback.

It would be, however, illegal to attempt to create a Full-SBS 3840x1080p picture and attempt to play it SBS from a BD player. To get full SBS you need standard 3D output to a 3D player. But I don't think I even allow that in BD-RB (I'd have to check, as it's been a while since I worked on the 3D code).

[videoh]

GeForce GT 520 Good to hear that nVidia is progressing with the Win10 driver support for older architectures. ;)

[sieve]

I have a 4 DVD set of a Sweedish TV show. I wanted to compile all episodes onto 1 BD that will play in the U.S. The source is 576i 25fps. I tried a couple different methods and have been unsuccessful in getting the video on the output BD to display when played in a BD player. Subtitles and audio play fine. I'll note that audio and video play fine on the same TV if I play the BD through a computer.

My config settings are pasted below.

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.20
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22000
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=2000
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=2
ALTAUTOCROP=0
IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\WORKING\IMPORTS\BRIDGE_S3\
WORKING_PATH=C:\WORKING\


The first time I tried, I imported DVD(s) quick reauthored. The one thing I notices in the stream window as that each video chapter (episode) was MPEG-2, 576i, 25fps. I assumed that the 25fps would be a problem. I thought that IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1 was supposed to convert that to 23.975fps in the import process, but apparently it didn't. I then ran a full backup to a BD-25 .iso. The burned BD w.ould not display video when played in a BD player. Video remained at 576i 25 fps.

The second time I tried, I imported DVD(s) quick reauthored. Same 576i 25fps in the stream window. I then did alternate movie-only output to MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio. I then imported these video files. Same 576i 25 fps. I then ran full backup to a BD-25 .iso. Same problem as above.

So, my questions are:
Is it possible to do what I am attempting to do in BD rebuilder?
If so, what settings/steps am I doing incorrectly?

Thanks in advance!

[Sharc]

@sieve
576i25 is perfectly Blu-ray compliant, even for U.S. There is no need to deinterlace and to convert it to 23.976fps for U.S.
If I interpret your settings correctly you try to produce a 576p23.976 output which is not Blu-Ray compliant, hence your player may refuse to play.
I would try again without deinterlacing and without frame rate conversion.

[Sharc]

Half SBS isn't illegal. The player has no idea that it is side-by-side, since it is simply two pictures combined into a standard 1920x1080 format (typically, you could also do 720p or 480/576 if you wanted). The player just sends the 1080p picture to the playback device which then does the splitting/stretching of the SBS for 3D playback.

It would be, however, illegal to attempt to create a Full-SBS 3840x1080p picture and attempt to play it SBS from a BD player. To get full SBS you need standard 3D output to a 3D player. But I don't think I even allow that in BD-RB (I'd have to check, as it's been a while since I worked on the 3D code).
It's definitely Half-SBS in my case.
It seems to be a player issue (or perhaps a poor burn):
- Samsung BD-J5500 fails
- Samsung HT-F4500 works
- LG BP440 fails
"Fail" means it loads the BD25 Disc but refuses to play the menu. The player spins full speed (noisy), TV screen is black....
Anyway, Half-SBS in .mkv container works with all 3 players.

Edit:
... No, it was not a bad burn. There seems to be a problem with the original menu which appears to make reference to the no longer existing MVC (dependent) stream. Possibly the culprit are the 3D buttons in the original menu. It's all a bit speculative though ....

I re-imported the disc and made a Quick Menu instead of keeping the original menu. Now the half-SBS BD plays fine on all 3 players with the quick-menu using the original backdrop.

Edit2:
Some more findings:
- The original menu backdrop (a static picture) and the feature are both 3D ssif structured on the original disk.
- BD-RB recreates the menu as in-muxed stereo, and converts the feature (as requested) to Half-SBS. The in-muxed 3D menu does however not play with 2 of my players.
- When I re-import the disc, the menu backdrop is encoded as 2D (base view) and plays ok in 2D. The Half-SBS feature plays correctly stereoscopic after setting the TV to SBS.
After all my conclusion is that it seems to be a player issue, as these players apparently refuse to play the in-muxed menu backdrop.

[jdobbs]

I tried a couple different methods and have been unsuccessful in getting the video on the output BD to display when played in a BD player.@sieve
576i25 is perfectly Blu-ray compliant, even for U.S. There is no need to deinterlace and to convert it to 23.976fps for U.S.
If I interpret your settings correctly you try to produce a 576p23.976 output which is not Blu-Ray compliant, hence your player may refuse to play.
I would try again without deinterlacing and without frame rate conversion.I'd be very surprised if 576p/23.976 didn't play. The player is required to support it (for secondary video) -- and I've never seen a player that wouldn't play SD @ 23.976 for primary video, even though it isn't strictly compliant.

I'd have to see what the video and audio AVS files looks like that were used for the encode. Since I'm in an NTSC zone, I convert 50fps to 23.976 all the time. All I set is IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1.

I'll play around with it today if I get some extra time.

[Sharc]

I'd be very surprised if 576p/23.976 didn't play. The player is required to support it (for secondary video) ....
Are you really positive that 576p23.976 is included for secondary video for Blu-ray? I thought that only 480p23.976 is accepted for secondary video, but not 576p. Maybe I am wrong. I agree however that players will usually play it anyway.

[jdobbs]

Are you really positive that 576p23.976 is included for secondary video for Blu-ray? I thought that only 480p23.976 is accepted for secondary video, but not 576p. Maybe I am wrong. I agree however that players will usually play it anyway.Hmm.. I'll go back and look. But, if you are converting to NTSC you would be resizing to 480p anyway.

[Edit]

According to Chapter 8 of that standard (para. 8.3.1), when the primary video is 1920x1080, 1440x1080 or 1280x720 the secondary video can be 720x480 or 720x576. Also 576p is an acceptable video type (it is video_format=7) in the StreamCodingInfo() table.

I assumed that would infer that a primary stream that is progressive would also require a progressive secondary stream at the same frame rate.

But... when looking at Table 9-49 in the standard, – which shows the allowed combinations of primary/secondary video formats, it appears that 720x576 (p or i) is only allowed when the primary frame rate is either 25fps or 50fps. So the bottom line is that 576p is supported -- but only at 25fps, not at 23.976fps.

So you are correct. 576p/23.976 is not a legal format.

[Sharc]

.... So the bottom line is that 576p is supported -- but only at 25fps, not at 23.976fps.
Yep, exactly.

[ggtop]

I have updated the first post of this thread with a link to the latest release of BD-RB (v0.50.20). Changes for this version:- Fixed an problem in which multipart sources
could cause an error 0000 in CreateAVS()
when SupTitle support is requested during
an ALTERNATE movie-only backup.
- Reinstituted the Donations popup. It only
appears once at startup for each version
release.

Hi jdobbs,
many thanks for the current version. Just want to let you know it fixes MP4 output with hard-codes subs on "Brigde of spies". Just tested it.

Regarding donation which I would to like to do I have a question: Do you want "us" to adress any gift cards directly to your mail address from amazon.com or send just the code to you (which I did earlier)?

ggtop

[meadrocks]

What email address do we use for the Amazon donation?

[jdobbs]

What email address do we use for the Amazon donation?Either dvd-rb@jdobbs.net or dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com. Alternatively a PM with the code works just as well.

Thanks for asking.

[Lathe]

This is weird... I've done this many times before with BDRB, which is after creating a movie only disc I go back and blank the main feature and have BDRB create an Xtras only disc with full menus. I always leave the output size to BD-25 or thereabouts and BDRB always creates a disc WITHOUT re-encoding anything. In the past, it always has used 'keeping original video'. However, this time, even though as you can see I have specifically includes the force no encode in the ini, it STILL is re-encoding all the video files.

Does anyone know why...? Did I miss some setting in the setup?

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.20
ENCODER=0
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=1
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
IVTC_480i=0
IVTC_METHOD=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0

AUTO_BIAS=3
B_PYRAMID=1
QUICK_CRF=24
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

ARCHIVE_ENABLE=1
ARCHIVE_LIMIT=1
ARCHIVE_265=0
ARCHIVE_AUDIO_100
ARCHIVE_CRF=18

KEEP_HD_LPCM=1
USE_ZLIB=0

ALTERNATE_BLURAY=0
ENCODER_MENU=1
MBTREE=1

IMPORT_THRESHOLD=1
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=1
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=1
MENU_AUTO_DVDAUDIO=1
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;

QUICK_EXTRAS=1


TARGET_SIZE=23500
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23700
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\_______MEDIA\_BDRB\
SOURCE_PATH=F:\00000\

Here is the partial log before I aborted the process:


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[12/15/16] BD Rebuilder v0.50.20
[23:57:36] Source: 00000
- Input BD size: 8.54 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:36:32.008]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Auto Quality: Better (Faster), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[23:57:45] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:57:45] Processing: VID_00021 (1 of 24)
- [23:57:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
- [23:57:49] Reencoding video [VID_00021]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 483 frames
- [23:57:49] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
[23:57:56]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

***EDIT

Wait a minute... I THINK I might know why... This is what the VID.avs looks like:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.50.20
DirectshowSource("F:\00000\00021.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=483, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("D:\EXECUTABLES\BD-RBV05020\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=true)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

So, apparently it is deinterlacing the video which means it has to re-encode, right? Maybe I need to UNcheck 'deinterlace' in the setup menu. I will try that now...

***EDIT 2

DANG! No, that didn't do it, Grrrrr! :mad:

***EDIT 3

Okay, I tried the last version of BDRB (5018) and it is doing it just fine. Clearly I MUST have something set wrong / differently in the ini or something...

***EDIT 4

Yeah... it was SOMETHING in the ini, I don't know what yet, but I just simply copied the ini of version 5018 over to the new one and re-ran it and it is just fine. I guess I'll poor over the two different ini's to see what it was...

Isn't it nice that I can come here and just talk to myself for about half an hour and then I feel ALL better... :)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
Did you change anything in the Quick-Play backup?
The quick menu shows as expected, but when I press the feature the player stops and returns to the Home screen. There is no way to play the movie.
It's a movie-only backup, so the quick-menu has only a single selection: the feature.

The quick-menu works fine with older disk from former releases.

Edit:
Importing the non-playable disc (using the BD folder structure which was still on the HD) and re-authoring the quick-menu eventually produced a playable disc.
I am wondering now whether the first attempt failed because the original source was an .iso (3D) on an external USB Drive?
Also to mention that the default text for the quick-menu was kept in the first run, although I edited it. The edit was effective with the re-authored disc from the 2nd run.

[sieve]

@sieve
576i25 is perfectly Blu-ray compliant, even for U.S. There is no need to deinterlace and to convert it to 23.976fps for U.S.
If I interpret your settings correctly you try to produce a 576p23.976 output which is not Blu-Ray compliant, hence your player may refuse to play.
I would try again without deinterlacing and without frame rate conversion.

I tried. Unchecked "use deinterlaced on interlaced sources". Removed IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1. Same result. Blu-Ray player would not display video.

[sieve]

I'd have to see what the video and audio AVS files looks like that were used for the encode. Since I'm in an NTSC zone, I convert 50fps to 23.976 all the time. All I set is IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1.

I think this is what I'm trying to accomplish also...
I just can't seem to get the settings right to make it happen.

[jdobbs]

I tried. Unchecked "use deinterlaced on interlaced sources". Removed IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1. Same result. Blu-Ray player would not display video.Can you provide me with a short clip of the output?

[sieve]

Can you provide me with a short clip of the output?

Sure. Which specific file should I send, and what can I use to extract a short section?

[jdobbs]

Sure. Which specific file should I send, and what can I use to extract a short section?You can use the split/cut function of TSMUXER. But, before we go to that trouble, let me find a short PAL source and do some testing.

[sieve]

You can use the split/cut function of TSMUXER. But, before we go to that trouble, let me find a short PAL source and do some testing.

I split off some video, but even 1 second is too large to attach.

[jdobbs]

I split off some video, but even 1 second is too large to attach.Send it via e-mail to dvd-rb@jdobbs.net

[jdobbs]

Sure. Which specific file should I send, and what can I use to extract a short section?I think the problem is in the conversion to FILM. As was mentioned by Sharc, it may be that the video is staying 720x576 and only the framerate was changing. I normally import HD -- and in that instance changing only the framerate would work. In fact, it may even be possible that nothing is being changed at all during import (because it is an SD and DVD source).

Testing in progress.

[jdobbs]

Yep. I'd forgotten. The IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM parameter only applies to video file imports (not DVD), note what I've highlighted:

IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=n n = 0/1 - Default=0, if set to 1, imported 25fps video file sources are converted to 23.976

I'll have to create another setting for this.

In the meantime, what you can do is import the DVD, then output it to MKV files using the "MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio" setting. You can then select all the MKV files and import them. Assuming IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM is set, they will be converted to 720x480@23.976 when the pseudo-BD source is reencoded.

[sieve]

In the meantime, what you can do is import the DVD, then output it to MKV files using the "MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio" setting. You can then select all the MKV files and import them. Assuming IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM is set, they will be converted to 720x480@23.976 when the pseudo-BD source is reencoded.

I read that in the thread somewhere and did try that the second time (see below). But it didn't work. It didn't change the resolution or frame rate.

The first time I tried, I imported DVD(s) quick reauthored. The one thing I notices in the stream window as that each video chapter (episode) was MPEG-2, 576i, 25fps. I assumed that the 25fps would be a problem. I thought that IMPORT_PAL_TO_FILM=1 was supposed to convert that to 23.975fps in the import process, but apparently it didn't. I then ran a full backup to a BD-25 .iso. The burned BD w.ould not display video when played in a BD player. Video remained at 576i 25 fps.

The second time I tried, I imported DVD(s) quick reauthored. Same 576i 25fps in the stream window. I then did alternate movie-only output to MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio. I then imported these video files. Same 576i 25 fps. I then ran full backup to a BD-25 .iso. Same problem as above.

[Sharc]

Well, apart from squashing a possible bug, my question would still be why people want to convert 576i/25fps to 480p/23.976fps? Blu-ray is a global standard, there is no need to convert from "PAL" to "NTSC" .....

[jdobbs]

I read that in the thread somewhere and did try that the second time (see below). But it didn't work. It didn't change the resolution or frame rate.When is it failing? Do you have a menu? Is it failing when you try the menu or when you select a title? I just did the procedure I mentioned with no menu and it worked fine. I'll try one with a menu next. I have my doubts, though, since the menu is always 1920x1080...

[sneaker_ger]

Well, apart from squashing a possible bug, my question would still be why people want to convert 576i/25fps to 480p/23.976fps? Blu-ray is a global standard, there is no need to convert from "PAL" to "NTSC" .....
Not all BD-ROM Players support 50Hz video formats.
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/assets/Downloadablefile/BD-ROM_Audio_Visual_Application_Format_Specifications-18780.pdf (3.3.1 + 3.3.2)