BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[datman]

What error screen?

[Edit] Let me know what happens with the latest version.

sorry jdobbs I haven't been taking notes. I can see I'm not helping much I'll work on my documentation :stupid:

[isoss]

on BD25 lsoss?

yes on bd25

[turbojet]

jdobbs, 0xdeadbeef, the developer of BDSup2Sub was able to fix the msialigned subs problem I first reported in this thread.

From BDSup2Sub 1.3 changelog (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1257726#post1257726)
- x/y ofs from start PCS is used instead of that from the window definition (fixes most misaligned subtitles)

Could you look into something like this to fix the misalignment?
I'm more then welcome to test it and you have a sup from this thread I posted yesterday that has many problems.
Also any chance to resize the sups down 1.5x (1920/1280 = 1080/720) ?

[Furiousflea]

sorry jdobbs I haven't been taking notes. I can see I'm not helping much I'll work on my documentation :stupid:

Hi there, I'm not sure if english is your first language, I expect not. I'm not knocking you but it might be a good idea to type out a rough draft of exactly what you want to say. Giving as much information as clearly as possible. Will help save time for you and be easier to understand what is wrong exactly. Just for example, those 3 windows you posted with "0%" were just the window for encoding your AC3 audio, not an error.

Please try and be completely certain it's not something on your computer causing the problem before posting. Because I get the feeling that the problem is more than likely not a bug but like you say, a bad rip or whatever. Just try and be sure first as you can be first :)

Sorry if that sounds patronising.

[Talkietoaster]

Wall E - UK Edition

I downloaded v0.20.02 still the same problem.

When I select "Full Backup", the process starts without any problems with file 0000:

-----------------------
[13:17:13] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: QUACKD1_GBR
- Input BD size: 40.11 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:59:06.351]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
[13:17:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:17:13] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [13:17:41] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 117)
- [13:22:17] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]

... (and so forth, works like a charm)

When I select "Movie Only" it fails at the exact same file with:

[13:23:08] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: QUACKD1_GBR
- Input BD size: 24.86 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:41.998]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[13:23:09] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:23:09] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[13:23:10] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

I am at a loss, especially as your (Jdobbs) version of Wall E seems to work :confused:.

[laserfan]

...Wrestlemania 24...is VC-1, 1080i, 29.97fps

[21:09:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:09:44] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00064]
- [21:29:48] Collecting video information [00064]
- Video: 1920x1080, 29.970fps
- Bitrate: 3,921 Kbs
- [21:29:48] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[21:30:02] - Failed video encode, abortedLooks like interlaced VC-1 perhaps; if yes this is a decoding problem not encoding. Try dragging the m2ts in question onto GraphEdit or GraphStudio and see what you get, and whether it will play cleanly. In fact, does it play on any player you might have on your PC?

This has been discussed before as a problem (interlaced VC-1)
but AFAIK has been ignored since to-date it's only been seen in extras vs. main feature.

[mmace]

Looks like interlaced VC-1 perhaps; if yes this is a decoding problem not encoding. Try dragging the m2ts in question onto GraphEdit or GraphStudio and see what you get, and whether it will play cleanly. In fact, does it play on any player you might have on your PC?

This has been discussed before as a problem (interlaced VC-1)
but AFAIK has been ignored since to-date it's only been seen in extras vs. main feature.I've had all sorts of problems with interlaced VC-1, in the end I set FFDShow to use libav and it did it at 0.05x, took best part of a week to do the extra's, once it was finished I found out the extras were picture-in-picture only (universal disc) so it didn't work anyway!!

[laserfan]

I've had all sorts of problems with interlaced VC-1, in the end I set FFDShow to use libav and it did it at 0.05x...Really!!!??!!! How do you set it to "0.05x"? :confused:

[datman]

Hi there, I'm not sure if english is your first language, I expect not. I'm not knocking you but it might be a good idea to type out a rough draft of exactly what you want to say. Giving as much information as clearly as possible. Will help save time for you and be easier to understand what is wrong exactly. Just for example, those 3 windows you posted with "0%" were just the window for encoding your AC3 audio, not an error.

Please try and be completely certain it's not something on your computer causing the problem before posting. Because I get the feeling that the problem is more than likely not a bug but like you say, a bad rip or whatever. Just try and be sure first as you can be first :)

Sorry if that sounds patronising.

thanks for the input I'll work on it.:)

[liquidskin76]

I've had all sorts of problems with interlaced VC-1, in the end I set FFDShow to use libav and it did it at 0.05x, took best part of a week to do the extra's, once it was finished I found out the extras were picture-in-picture only (universal disc) so it didn't work anyway!!

I'm getting the same with '300' (UK version) when running full disc to BD25. x264 crashes with the error 'x264.exe has stopped working'. More specifically, it stops working a little way into encoding the first 1080i VC-1 steam.

All 1080p or 480i streams are ok.

Here's the lastcmd text...

"C:\Users\####\Desktop\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "C:\USERS\####\DESKTOP\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\VID_00025.AVS" --crf 24 --level 4.1 --sar 1:1 --aud --vbv-bufsize 25000 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-maxrate 35000 --bframes 3 --8x8dct --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --stats "C:\USERS\####\DESKTOP\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\VID_00025.AVS.264.stats" --pass 1 --output "C:\USERS\####\DESKTOP\NEW FOLDER\WORKFILES\VID_00025.AVS.264"


Ran the lastcmd from CMD however no other info was given when x264 stops working.

Checked Vista's event logs and part of the application error was 'faulting module wmvdecod.dll'.

With ffdshow VC-1 settings set to 'disabled' and 'wmv9', x264 stops working.

If ffdshow VC-1 is set to 'libavcodec' i get the same as mmace, with the BD_Rebuilder speed running between 0.05x and 0.07x speeds!

The stream plays ok in PowerDVD 8. When played in Windows Media Player, the image keeps scambling/blocking.

Looks like interlaced VC-1 perhaps; if yes this is a decoding problem not encoding. Try dragging the m2ts in question onto GraphEdit or GraphStudio and see what you get, and whether it will play cleanly. In fact, does it play on any player you might have on your PC?

This has been discussed before as a problem (interlaced VC-1)
but AFAIK has been ignored since to-date it's only been seen in extras vs. main feature.

I agree with laserfan that it's not a x264 issue, rather a decoding issue.

Checked the M2TS file in GraphEdit and the video/subtitles are linking to ffdshow video decoder, with the audio linking to ffdshow audio decoder.

@jdobbs
@dark shikari

Is there any more info i can give you that may be of help?

Cheers

[GaPony]

I'm getting the same with '300' (UK version) when running full disc to BD25. x264 crashes with the error 'x264.exe has stopped working'. More specifically, it stops working a little way into encoding the first 1080i VC-1 steam.

All 1080p or 480i streams are ok.

Ran the lastcmd from CMD however no other info was given when x264 stops working.

With ffdshow VC-1 settings set to 'disabled' and 'wmv9', x264 stops working.

If ffdshow VC-1 is set to 'libavcodec' i get the same as mmace, with the BD_Rebuilder speed running between 0.05x and 0.07x speeds!

The stream plays ok in PowerDVD 8. When played in Windows Media Player, the image keeps scambling/blocking.

I agree with laserfan that it's not a x264 issue, rather a decoding issue.



This would accurately describe what I'm experiencing on several movies... though I haven't connected it to a problem with wmvdecod.dll. I did experience x264.exe stopping when it ran into a 1080i VC-1 file while copying The Express and Burn After Reading.
Most of my output lately has been scrabled/blocked... after a very long run of successful copies. I'm not sure what might have changed. I don't have PowerDVD installed, but I get poor results when viewing with TotalMediaTheatre and WMP11... or from a disc burned with ImgBurn.

[Furiousflea]

READ.....:)

All the problems with 1080i VC1 streams discussed in last few posts are NORMAL. The reason you are getting blocky output\x264 crashing is because the FREE decoders DO NOT support hybrid interlaced VC1 streams.

The ONLY decoder that seems to support them properly is a PAID one by neuron2.

HOWEVER...

duh duh duhhhhh

There is a work around, by setting the minimum VTS for encoding by BD-Rebuilder you can get it to NOT encode these streams and just copy them as is to the backup you are using. Using the minimum VTS option in the ini - Any VTS under a certain size will not be compressed but just direct stream copied into your backup.

Obviously there are limitations here so if you backing up to anything smaller than BD25 don't bother.

[liquidskin76]

READ.....:)

All the problems with 1080i VC1 streams discussed in last few posts are NORMAL. The reason you are getting blocky output\x264 crashing is because the FREE decoders DO NOT support hybrid interlaced VC1 streams.

The ONLY decoder that seems to support them properly is a PAID one by neuron2.

HOWEVER...

duh duh duhhhhh

There is a work around, by setting the minimum VTS for encoding by BD-Rebuilder you can get it to NOT encode these streams and just copy them as is to the backup you are using. Using the minimum VTS option in the ini - Any VTS under a certain size will not be compressed but just direct stream copied into your backup.

Obviously there are limitations here so if you backing up to anything smaller than BD25 don't bother.

Hey Furiousflea,

Cheers for the info and work around. Should have figured that one myself! :)

[stef73]

ive got a ps3 and panasonic bd35, if i just back up movie only will work on panasonic great for some reason ps3 stopped playing backups for first time in two years hence why i bought bd35 i want to back up the whole disk to bd25 im using traxdata tried the FIX_CLPI=0 in the ini file and still wont play full disk back ups using latest version, im using verbatims traxdata sony and getting same result which is it looks like its going to play then just says stop. these disk are playing fine on my pc which is weird anyone have any ideas or is it me lol

[iSeries]

Hi,

I'm hoping someone can help me. Yesterday I ripped Before The Devil Knows I'm Dead with AnyDVD HD. I played the movie .m2ts in MPC and it played perfectly.

I then set up BD Rebuilder (latest version) to do a movie-only rebuild with a target size of DVD-9, and 640kbps AC3 audio. I left that overnight, and by the time I had got back home from work today it had finished. However, playing the .m2ts file in MPC shows a terrific picture but unfortunately no sound. If I check the properties in MPC it shows the video information but no sound information. If I load the .m2ts file in tsMuxer it shows both the video and sound stream. I tried loading the movie into MakeMKV and it fails to load, saying 'invalid mux'.

Log File:

[21:45:19] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: BEFORE_THE_DEVIL
- Input BD size: 16.22 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:56:43.413]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:45:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:45:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [21:51:37] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
[16:41:02]PHASE ONE complete
[16:41:02]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [16:41:02] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[16:45:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[16:45:02]JOB: BEFORE_THE_DEVIL completed.

Does anyone have any idea whats gone on here? This is the 2nd time I've used BD-Rebuilder. The first time I got no picture and no sound, so I guess I've made some progress lol.

What I don't understand is I've used Ripbot264 successfully to rebuild to DVD-9, so what could be the problem with BD-Rebuilder?

[Elesias]

What version are you using. Make sure it is v0.20.2, because there was apparently some issue introduced in v0.20.1 with the new TSMUXER. I've backed into the older TSMUXER with the latest one.

Great news : tried the lastest version with "Street Kings", and everything runs just fine on my BD 35 player.

Great job !

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, 0xdeadbeef, the developer of BDSup2Sub was able to fix the msialigned subs problem I first reported in this thread.

From BDSup2Sub 1.3 changelog (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1257726#post1257726)
- x/y ofs from start PCS is used instead of that from the window definition (fixes most misaligned subtitles)

Could you look into something like this to fix the misalignment?
I'm more then welcome to test it and you have a sup from this thread I posted yesterday that has many problems.
Also any chance to resize the sups down 1.5x (1920/1280 = 1080/720) ? I'll look at it. I also reposition them based upon the center of the window definition. Most of the time the window is only around the text -- but in one of the examples you showed it looks like that's not always the case.

I haven't even put together a routine to decode the RLE picture yet (I'd love it if someone had an algorithm they'd share) -- so it might be a while before I resize the picture. If I resized them, though, it would eliminate the misalignment... as I could use the top/left corner as the point of reference instead of the middle of the picture.

[stef73]

elias was that a full backup or movie only

[Elesias]

elias was that a full backup or movie only

Movie only.

[stef73]

thnanks mate its always worked movie only on mine, have you tried full back up

[laserfan]

READ.....:)

All the problems with 1080i VC1 streams discussed in last few posts are NORMAL.Perhaps in your peculiar "alternate universe"! :rolleyes:

The reason you are getting blocky output\x264 crashing is because the FREE decoders DO NOT support hybrid interlaced VC1 streams.They don't have to be "hybrid", they only have to be I/L VC-1.

The ONLY decoder that seems to support them properly is a PAID one by neuron2.Perhaps, but a group of guys on this board have figured-out (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144625)how to cobble together the right filters to make these work. Unfortunately I am not among them (tho I do have neuron2's excellent nvidia tools).

HOWEVER... duh duh duhhhhh There is a work around, by setting the minimum VTS for encoding by BD-Rebuilder you can get it to NOT encode these...Well, duh, your workaround absolutely sucks! :p Particularly from the POV that "how do you know they're I/L VC-1s that are causing the problem in the first place? This is gonna drive newbies crazy.

I have ID'ed I/L VC-1s and separately encoded them using neuron2's tools, but I wonder how many people here are experiencing crashing BD-RB due to this problem.

jdobbs is, I'm sure, lying awake nights trying to figure-out some of the issues people are having--this is an ugly one but probably worth pursuing (because the problems tend to be buried in the bowels of the discs ie. the extras).

[unixman2]

Sorry, not a bug but I wanted others to see this and hope they follow my lead.

Thanks very much for your efforts in providing us such a great utility for backing up our BD's. Yes, these are just words, but today I put my money where my mouth is and sent you a donation because I've been using BD-Rebuilder with great success! It's the right thing to do because I have no problem paying for something that provides me value.

Keep up the good work.

T

[GaPony]

It seems the whole point of the beta is to find the strengths and weaknesses of the program and work on those weaknesses. I, for one, wasn't complaining that x264 was crashing. I was hoping that there was some reason for it. That question has been answered, and I appreciate it. I was beginning to think I had seriously screwed something up after so many successfull copies. :)

While I would like to get my backups completed, I'm also quite willing to wait for revision after revision of BD-Rebuilder and keep making several copies of whatever movies I have that benefits the beta program.

What I don't want is to endup having to cobble together a bunch of different apps to get a Blu-Ray movie backed up. I could already do that for the most part. If there is an encoder/decoder that works with these tempermental files, free or otherwise, I'd appreciate a post or PM that would help me find it, especially if its geared toward the nVidia cards that may take advantage of CUDA... but thats another area of interest.

[liquidskin76]

Well, duh, your workaround absolutely sucks!

The problem exists right now so any work around will do if it means we can keep beta testing BD Rebuilder!! :rolleyes:

[datman]

Ok I started this project last night. I don’t remember exactly but there was some kind of an error but the encode resumed. When I checked it in the morning it was stalled no errors just very very slow the cpu was not active then it would turn on for a minute and back off. Did that for a while so I stopped it.

As with many of my attempts I was working off a preprocessed archive not the disc. If I am the only one have this failure to reencode the audio error then I will stop doing it and from now on work off a unprotected image. Why would so many work and a few not?

This also could be a Windows 7 error.

-----------------------
[20:44:28] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: ERIN_BROCKOVICH
- Input BD size: 23.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:11:17.995]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:44:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:44:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [21:06:08] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
[22:27:03]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[22:50:41] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: ERIN_BROCKOVICH
- Input BD size: 23.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:11:17.995]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:50:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:50:42] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
[06:19:42]PHASE ONE aborted by user request


I used the unfinished project to help me in set limits for overclocking my cpu. That worked great strait to 2nd pass, all 4 cores 100%.

When I resumed the project it ran very slow, slowest with this cpu to date, settled down to .27 for the whole project. As with all the other errors I’ve had lately at the end of the 2nd pass it fails

This is all the information I know of

-----------------------
[08:49:42] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: ERIN_BROCKOVICH
- Input BD size: 23.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:11:17.995]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[08:49:44] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [08:49:44] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
- ERROR in attempt to reencode audio (AFTEN) [AUD_00001__4352.WAV]
[16:42:24] - Failed to reencode audio, aborted



[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
RESIZE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=0
AVCHD=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
TARGET_SIZE=7910
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\



[Status]
LABEL=ERIN_BROCKOVICH
VERSION=v0.20.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=25437769728
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=25437769728
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.326059880590488
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=3
REBUILD_COMPLETE=0
[00001]
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=7325

[Furiousflea]

Perhaps in your peculiar "alternate universe"! :rolleyes:

They don't have to be "hybrid", they only have to be I/L VC-1.

Perhaps, but a group of guys on this board have figured-out (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144625)how to cobble together the right filters to make these work. Unfortunately I am not among them (tho I do have neuron2's excellent nvidia tools).

Well, duh, your workaround absolutely sucks! :p Particularly from the POV that "how do you know they're I/L VC-1s that are causing the problem in the first place? This is gonna drive newbies crazy.

I have ID'ed I/L VC-1s and separately encoded them using neuron2's tools, but I wonder how many people here are experiencing crashing BD-RB due to this problem.

jdobbs is, I'm sure, lying awake nights trying to figure-out some of the issues people are having--this is an ugly one but probably worth pursuing (because the problems tend to be buried in the bowels of the discs ie. the extras).

FFS don't be so pedantic. jdobbs has recommended the min vts workaround as a temporary solution himself a few pages back on this thread. What I posted might not be ideal, far from it. But it's a workaround that is useful for quite a few problem discs if backing up to BD25 since extras *usually* aren't many GB is size.

It's strange you saying (and not a criticism!) that this affects all 1080i sources and not the hybrid type with mixed content. As I made a similar post but without the accussational undertones as yours a week or two ago and was told that there was no problem with 1080i sources that weren't a hybrid mix.

How about we stick on topic and try and be helpful, if you have a better solution to what I have posted by all means go for it. I would also love to hear it. And again I'm not trying to wind you up or promote a rude response but some hard answers.

[Furiousflea]

Ok I started this project last night. I don’t remember exactly but there was some kind of an error but the encode resumed. When I checked it in the morning it was stalled no errors just very very slow the cpu was not active then it would turn on for a minute and back off. Did that for a while so I stopped it.

As with many of my attempts I was working off a preprocessed archive not the disc. If I am the only one have this failure to reencode the audio error then I will stop doing it and from now on work off a unprotected image. Why would so many work and a few not?.....

I can only suggest that you try the original Bluray ripped to your hard drive with the latest version of AnyDVD HD and not from your archive. Since you've experienced this error on numerous discs and we haven't seen many (any?) other reports of the encoder just stalling.

1. Check your CPU isn't overheating with a temperature monitor.
2. Run a memory test application like "Super Pi"
3. Try a freshly ripped source and run it through EAC3To with one of the GUIs to see if it can load it properly (also extracting the audio stream to see if there are any errors).

In any case I would definately do a fresh rip to begin with

[Furiousflea]

The problem exists right now so any work around will do if it means we can keep beta testing BD Rebuilder!! :rolleyes:

Thank you, that's the whole point and I'm pleased someone saw it.

[turbojet]

Thanks jdobbs I feel I've given you some content to work with to keep you busy. Beyond the playback of full backups in a lot of players (reason unknown?) this pesky decoder issue (out of your control) and the random issue like nights in rodanthe, I think these are the size and subs resize are the biggest issues currently.

Cyerblink is a workaround to the VC1 interlaced+progressive issue but I have seen cyberlink 'freeze' on some streams too. It will be decoding fine and then all of a sudden will decode the same frame over and over again until the stream ends. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Arsoft I haven't had a chance to test yet, maybe thats a better workaround.

[punisher12]

Hi there, cant wait for the final product and will happily pay/donate when up and running buddy.
i keep on getting the failed to retrieve audio error and it wont backup, see log below, any ideas, thanks, keep up the great work!! (file has been decrypted using anydvdhd)


[10:10:59] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: STARGATE
- Input BD size: 22.78 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:09:55.125]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10:11:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:11:01] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[10:11:01] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[jdobbs]

FFS don't be so pedantic. jdobbs has recommended the min vts workaround as a temporary solution himself a few pages back on this thread. What I posted might not be ideal, far from it. But it's a workaround that is useful for quite a few problem discs if backing up to BD25 since extras *usually* aren't many GB is size.

It's strange you saying (and not a criticism!) that this affects all 1080i sources and not the hybrid type with mixed content. As I made a similar post but without the accussational undertones as yours a week or two ago and was told that there was no problem with 1080i sources that weren't a hybrid mix.

How about we stick on topic and try and be helpful, if you have a better solution to what I have posted by all means go for it. I would also love to hear it. And again I'm not trying to wind you up or promote a rude response but some hard answers.I think we should remember to recommend first that people install Windows Media Player 11 and disable FFDSHOW's VC-1 support. That way the WMV11 codec gets used. I have done this -- and only one disc has failed (BAND OF BROTHERS) to encode because of VC-1 hybrid video, and my guess is I've run a lot more of these than most people. I got around that one (temporarily) by using the minimum sizing for BD-25 output.

I'll eventually fix the hybrid problem -- but let's not overreact and suddenly decide the problem includes ALL VC-1 interlaced sources. It does not. If someone hits a problem -- first make sure the right codec (WMV11) is in use. The odds that you're hitting a hybrid source is very low (at least from my experience).

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs I feel I've given you some content to work with to keep you busy. Beyond the playback of full backups in a lot of players (reason unknown?) this pesky decoder issue (out of your control) and the random issue like nights in rodanthe, I think these are the size and subs resize are the biggest issues currently.

Cyerblink is a workaround to the VC1 interlaced+progressive issue but I have seen cyberlink 'freeze' on some streams too. It will be decoding fine and then all of a sudden will decode the same frame over and over again until the stream ends. Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Arsoft I haven't had a chance to test yet, maybe thats a better workaround.I'm working the "Nights in Rodanthe" issue right now. Seems there are some things happening in the CLPI that I need to research. It might have impact on other issues as well. More to come.

[datman]

In any case I would definately do a fresh rip to begin with


yep from now on that's what I'm going to do. I thought I was saving steps. I'm going to do Erin Brochovich today.

and from now on I will only post issues off fresh rips

[liquidskin76]

I think we should remember to recommend first that people install Windows Media Player 11 and disable FFDSHOW's VC-1 support. That way the WMV11 codec gets used. I have done this -- and only one disc has failed (BAND OF BROTHERS) to encode because of VC-1 hybrid video, and my guess is I've run a lot more of these than most people. I got around that one (temporarily) by using the minimum sizing for BD-25 output.

I'll eventually fix the hybrid problem -- but let's not overreact and suddenly decide the problem includes ALL VC-1 interlaced sources. It does not. If someone hits a problem -- first make sure the right codec (WMV11) is in use. The odds that you're hitting a hybrid source is very low (at least from my experience).

@jdobbs

Just to let you know...

I'm running Vista which has WMV11 installed as default. I tried it with the FFDSHOW VC-1 setting disabled (so the WMV11 codec is used), however get the same problem on the 2 discs (300 and Mamma Mia - UK versions) that i have that contain 1080i VC-1 streams.

On another note, if i play the 1080i VC-1 streams through WMV11 with the FFDSHOW VC-1 settings disabled, the image keeps scambling.

I'll use the work around for now.

Thanks

[jewish]

Hi jdobbs

I tried to do Mr and Mrs Smith and it failed. log below. any ideas?

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[13:04:05] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: MRMRSSMITH_F1
- Input BD size: 31.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:40.500]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[13:04:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:04:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00012]
- [13:04:29] Collecting video information [00012]
- [13:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 11)
- [13:04:57] Video Encode complete
- [13:04:57] Reencoding audio tracks
- [13:04:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:05:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [13:09:08] Collecting video information [00010]
- [13:09:08] Reencoding: VID_00010 (2 of 11)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[13:12:32] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Status]
LABEL=MRMRSSMITH_F1
VERSION=v0.20.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34133436465
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33969315840
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.71903086568022
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=1
[00012]
M2TS_TARGET=20074145
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=3428352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
M2TS_TARGET=255446150

[cyberdoggy]

Has anyone successfully encoded Enchanted in movie only mode? I encoded it but it apparently has many m2ts files and it gathers some it obviously shouldn't, because when you play it back you get the proper audio but the video is showing things like the interactive pop-up trivia track every now and then, and I cannot seem to find a way to get just the movie complete without the trivia track pop-ups.

[jdobbs]

Has anyone successfully encoded Enchanted in movie only mode? I encoded it but it apparently has many m2ts files and it gathers some it obviously shouldn't, because when you play it back you get the proper audio but the video is showing things like the interactive pop-up trivia track every now and then, and I cannot seem to find a way to get just the movie complete without the trivia track pop-ups. Choose a different Playlist from thte alternates (MODE menu).

I'm going to have to find out a better way to choose the main feature than just "the largest" -- I'm just not sure how yet.

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Just to let you know...

I'm running Vista which has WMV11 installed as default. I tried it with the FFDSHOW VC-1 setting disabled (so the WMV11 codec is used), however get the same problem on the 2 discs (300 and Mamma Mia - UK versions) that i have that contain 1080i VC-1 streams.

On another note, if i play the 1080i VC-1 streams through WMV11 with the FFDSHOW VC-1 settings disabled, the image keeps scambling.

I'll use the work around for now.

Thanks Hmmm... that sure sounds like what you'd see with a hybrid source.

[jdobbs]

Hi jdobbs

I tried to do Mr and Mrs Smith and it failed. log below. any ideas?

-----------------------
[13:04:05] BD Rebuilder v0.20.02 (beta)
- Source: MRMRSSMITH_F1
- Input BD size: 31.79 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:26:40.500]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[13:04:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:04:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00012]
- [13:04:29] Collecting video information [00012]
- [13:04:29] Reencoding: VID_00012 (1 of 11)
- [13:04:57] Video Encode complete
- [13:04:57] Reencoding audio tracks
- [13:04:58] Multiplexing M2TS
- [13:05:00] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00010]
- [13:09:08] Collecting video information [00010]
- [13:09:08] Reencoding: VID_00010 (2 of 11)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[13:12:32] - Failed video encode, aborted

[Status]
LABEL=MRMRSSMITH_F1
VERSION=v0.20.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34133436465
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33969315840
TARGET_SIZE=24589107200
REDUCTION=.71903086568022
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=1
[00012]
M2TS_TARGET=20074145
AUDIO=1
NSIZE=3428352
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
M2TS_TARGET=255446150 Have you done any other movies successfully? This looks like a setup problem, probably a codec that isn't activated.

[laserfan]

I made a similar post but without the accussational undertones as yours ... How about we stick on topic and try and be helpful, if you have a better solution to what I have posted by all means go for it. I would also love to hear it. And again I'm not trying to wind you up or promote a rude response but some hard answers.Hey, you're the one who used the "READ" and "duh duh duhhhhh" in boldface as if everyone was supposed to know what you described in your post, and was an idiot if not! Next time post "just the facts" without the commentary lest someone else here (like me!) responds in kind!

As for "hybrid 1080i" I've had problems with 1080i VC-1 whether hybrid or not, regardless of what you may have been told elsewhere here.

[laserfan]

I think we should remember to recommend first that people install Windows Media Player 11 and disable FFDSHOW's VC-1 support. That way the WMV11 codec gets used. I have done this -- and only one disc has failed (BAND OF BROTHERS) to encode because of VC-1 hybrid video, and my guess is I've run a lot more of these than most people. I got around that one (temporarily) by using the minimum sizing for BD-25 output.

I'll eventually fix the hybrid problem -- but let's not overreact and suddenly decide the problem includes ALL VC-1 interlaced sources. It does not. If someone hits a problem -- first make sure the right codec (WMV11) is in use. The odds that you're hitting a hybrid source is very low (at least from my experience).Well, I for one can't get WMV11 to work no-way-no-how, and I've struggled with this on two computers, both updated to latest (though I've yet to update to DirectX from Nov08, last thing I can think to try). Maybe the VC-1s I've had trouble with are unique in some fashion that I've been unable to recognize, but I don't believe they are hybrid. OTTOMH I can think of the six extras from Mamma Mia--I'll try to remember the other place I encountered it (again, an extra) so maybe someone here can confirm-or-deny.

[jewish]

Hi mate,

Yes i`ve managed to do about a dozen but it fails with the same error on a few;

Mr and Mrs Smith
Deja Vu
Independence day

please help if you can or let me know what all the settings should be in the various apps?

Kind regards

[Furiousflea]

Well, I for one can't get WMV11 to work no-way-no-how, and I've struggled with this on two computers, both updated to latest (though I've yet to update to DirectX from Nov08, last thing I can think to try). Maybe the VC-1s I've had trouble with are unique in some fashion that I've been unable to recognize, but I don't believe they are hybrid. OTTOMH I can think of the six extras from Mamma Mia--I'll try to remember the other place I encountered it (again, an extra) so maybe someone here can confirm-or-deny.

My copy of mamma mia crashes on the extras also at the 1080i VC1 encoding part.

EDIT - This is using wmv11 decoder, however most 1080i stuff in VC1 is fine. Could just be that you got unlucky and your discs all have the hybrid VC1....Depends how many we're talking tho. I doubt you'd be so unlucky as to have 10 of 10 of your discs for example etc.

[punisher12]

any thoughts?
:thanks:

[liquidskin76]

any thoughts?
:thanks:

Been thinking about Malin Akerman in that very tight suit from the Watchmen movie. Not sure if that's any help to anyone though!!! :devil:

[punisher12]

Been thinking about Malin Akerman in that very tight suit from the Watchmen movie. Not sure if that's any help to anyone though!!! :devil:

LOL, cheers!

no, any thoughts on my last post

:p

[datman]

yep from now on that's what I'm going to do. I thought I was saving steps. I'm going to do Erin Brochovich today.

and from now on I will only post issues off fresh rips

I got it out to rip and I see it's an HD dvd I converted. That must be my problem. Has anyone successfully encoded a convrted HD dvd? I don't want to waste my time.

[Furiousflea]

I got it out to rip and I see it's an HD dvd I converted. That must be my problem. Has anyone successfully encoded a convrted HD dvd? I don't want to waste my time.

Come on now, :eek: I have written a guide on converting HD DVD -> Bluray in the thread marked "BACKUP guide..."

Should help you out abit, note though that you can't keep menus when you convert but you can keep all audio streams\subs etc.

[turbojet]

punisher12: Have you tried on a different BD or is stargate the only one that can't extract audio/subs?

[punisher12]

punisher12: Have you tried on a different BD or is stargate the only one that can't extract audio/subs?


Thanx, yes tried ironman, indiana jones and several others to no avail, i'm stumped.