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Adbear
19th August 2012, 18:26
I already know the results which is why I always remove trailers etc completely and even then it doesn't always make any difference when you get the final output
nozuul
20th August 2012, 02:08
Greetings,
Trying to make an iPad MP4 HD 1920 x 1080 alternate movie only output. Works fine if I use constant rate factor output, but the file size is bigger than I want (over 11 GB), so I used 2 pass target size at 4096 and get an MP4BOX error.
Here is the log.
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[08/19/12] BD Rebuilder v0.41.01 (beta)
[16:38:42] Source: THE_HUNGER_GAMES_PLAYLIST_00017
- Input BD size: 36.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:22:33.378]
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: iPad MP4 HD, 1920x1080, 128Kbs AAC
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:38:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:38:42] Processing: VID_00511 (1 of 12)
- [16:38:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00511]
- [16:45:50] Reencoding video [VID_00511]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,466 frames
- Bitrate: 3,738 Kbs
- [16:45:50] Reencoding: VID_00511, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:48:49] Reencoding: VID_00511, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:53:58] Video Encode complete
- [16:53:58] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AAC...
- [16:58:27] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 12)
- [16:58:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [16:58:33] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 719 frames
- Bitrate: 4,097 Kbs
- [16:58:33] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [16:58:42] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [16:58:53] Video Encode complete
- [16:58:53] Processing: VID_00507 (3 of 12)
- [16:58:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00507]
- [17:01:06] Reencoding video [VID_00507]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 35,506 frames
- Bitrate: 4,095 Kbs
- [17:01:06] Reencoding: VID_00507, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:07:34] Reencoding: VID_00507, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:15:47] Video Encode complete
- [17:15:47] Processing: VID_00503 (4 of 12)
- [17:15:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00503]
- [17:15:55] Reencoding video [VID_00503]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,262 frames
- Bitrate: 4,084 Kbs
- [17:15:55] Reencoding: VID_00503, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:16:09] Reencoding: VID_00503, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:16:26] Video Encode complete
- [17:16:26] Processing: VID_00008 (5 of 12)
- [17:16:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
- [17:17:49] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 22,838 frames
- Bitrate: 4,064 Kbs
- [17:17:49] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:21:56] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:26:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:26:53] Processing: VID_00007 (6 of 12)
- [17:26:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
- [17:27:01] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,172 frames
- Bitrate: 4,110 Kbs
- [17:27:01] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:27:14] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:27:31] Video Encode complete
- [17:27:31] Processing: VID_00009 (7 of 12)
- [17:27:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [17:27:39] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,132 frames
- Bitrate: 4,108 Kbs
- [17:27:39] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:27:52] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:28:07] Video Encode complete
- [17:28:07] Processing: VID_00003 (8 of 12)
- [17:28:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
- [17:29:46] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 26,243 frames
- Bitrate: 4,077 Kbs
- [17:29:46] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:34:35] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:40:24] Video Encode complete
- [17:40:24] Processing: VID_00501 (9 of 12)
- [17:40:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
- [17:40:29] Reencoding video [VID_00501]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 624 frames
- Bitrate: 4,093 Kbs
- [17:40:29] Reencoding: VID_00501, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:40:37] Reencoding: VID_00501, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:40:45] Video Encode complete
- [17:40:45] Processing: VID_00004 (10 of 12)
- [17:40:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
- [17:43:03] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 40,442 frames
- Bitrate: 3,969 Kbs
- [17:43:04] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:50:04] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:58:48] Video Encode complete
- [17:58:48] Processing: VID_00505 (11 of 12)
- [17:58:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00505]
- [17:58:54] Reencoding video [VID_00505]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 706 frames
- Bitrate: 3,963 Kbs
- [17:58:54] Reencoding: VID_00505, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:59:02] Reencoding: VID_00505, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:59:12] Video Encode complete
- [17:59:12] Processing: VID_00502 (12 of 12)
- [17:59:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00502]
- [18:02:07] Reencoding video [VID_00502]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 61,966 frames
- Bitrate: 3,276 Kbs
- [18:02:07] Reencoding: VID_00502, Pass 1 of 2
- [18:11:57] Reencoding: VID_00502, Pass 2 of 2
- [18:24:37] Video Encode complete
[18:24:37]PHASE ONE complete
[18:24:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:24:37] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- ERROR in attempt to mux (MP4BOX)
[18:46:00] - Failed to REBUILD
Any ideas?
Thanks for the help!
jdobbs
20th August 2012, 02:15
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=1 n = minimum size required for BD-RB processing in MB, default is 100
By dialing 1, then encode all mpeg2 files, right?It depends whether the size would require reencoding. You didn't post your log, so I can't tell... but if you want to force encoding you can add FORCE_ENCODE=1 to your config file (see HIDDENOPTS.TXT).
jdobbs
20th August 2012, 02:17
Greetings,
Trying to make an iPad MP4 HD 1920 x 1080 alternate movie only output. Works fine if I use constant rate factor output, but the file size is bigger than I want (over 11 GB), so I used 2 pass target size at 4096 and get an MP4BOX error.
Here is the log.
Any ideas?
Thanks for the help!MP4BOX does the multiplexing into the .MP4 container. Not sure why you'd get an error just because you used 2-pass, that doesn't make sense. An X264 file is an X264 file either way. I'll have to pick up "The Hunger Games" and give it a test.
jdobbs
20th August 2012, 02:23
say 50mb, but will be more likely to say something!, have not tried it yet but it is certainly one way to improve a little more, but the final quality, the human eye does not seeAdbear is right. There's "trying to get the best" and then there's "going overboard" -- in this case you're (respectfully) going overboard.
nozuul
20th August 2012, 20:08
MP4BOX does the multiplexing into the .MP4 container. Not sure why you'd get an error just because you used 2-pass, that doesn't make sense. An X264 file is an X264 file either way. I'll have to pick up "The Hunger Games" and give it a test.
Thanks for looking into this, first time it has happened to me.
:thanks:
mcdcad
21st August 2012, 03:25
In backing up this movie ,movie only backup, I'm using any dvd hd latest version. Bd rebuilder latest version all the tools are up to date. Two scenes while playing the copied movie back were out of sequence. This happened on two other movies and I can never seem to find a fix for it. The only way around it seems to be a full backup using a 50 gig disk. I have backed up many movies with your software and with no problem. great great software for bd movies. Also play lists at times seems to be a problem. I used 665 for this movie. I have read allot of issues as far as that goes. Any suggestions.
Adbear
21st August 2012, 06:44
When you say the 'latest' AnyDVD, which build do you mean?
jdobbs
21st August 2012, 14:35
In backing up this movie ,movie only backup, I'm using any dvd hd latest version. Bd rebuilder latest version all the tools are up to date. Two scenes while playing the copied movie back were out of sequence. This happened on two other movies and I can never seem to find a fix for it. The only way around it seems to be a full backup using a 50 gig disk. I have backed up many movies with your software and with no problem. great great software for bd movies. Also play lists at times seems to be a problem. I used 665 for this movie. I have read allot of issues as far as that goes. Any suggestions. You likely have to change the selected playlist. There are a few discs out there that create a few or even a large selection of available playlists in an attempt to obfuscate the correct one. Some of the available playlists do nothing but mix up or repeat scenes. Since selecting the correct playlist is essentially just an educated guess (there are no flags that say "I am the movie") -- it's possible that BD-RB might pick the wrong one. Usually a google search will tell you which playlist is correct.
setarip_old
21st August 2012, 16:47
@mcdcad
The following information appeared in a post at another forum. It seems to be pertinent to your post here:
I clicked through it for those scenes and you're correct. You can see the window of the train if you pay attention.
And for the part where she's training and then out of nowhere she appears to be in the forest. Well, she isn't actually in the forest, but in the spot where two others where previously making a fire. She's now in that same spot trying to make a fire herself. It's a quick scene so it looks disjointed.
So yeah, 76 is a good playlist.
jellyhead1
22nd August 2012, 08:28
It would seem that all these playlists are the same due to the obfuscation protection
76
108
447
462
565
665
832
843
876
971
I used MultiAVCHD to blank all titles except 00971 and 00003 (menu) resulting in a blanked main movie. This was OK because I used TSMuxer to loaded playlist 00971 and created a single m2ts for the main movie. I then renamed the 00000.m2ts and 00000.clpi to 00004 and replaced the files created by MultiAVCHD. I edited the 00000.mpls created by TSMuxer changing the m2ts to 00004 then replaced all of the main movie playlists with the edited one including 00321.mpls which includes the 'Your disc can't play' clip. The menu and all chapter links were working so I then used BDRebuilder to resize the movie for BD25.
If you just want to do movie only, then use TSMuxer on playlist 971 and output as BluRay then use BDRebuilder to resize the created files.
I use MultiAVCHD since the blank title option in BDRebuilder has yet to be finished. With each new release I hope that it will be be finished but not so far.
jdobbs
22nd August 2012, 13:32
It would seem that all these playlists are the same due to the obfuscation protection
76
108
447
462
565
665
832
843
876
971
I used MultiAVCHD to blank all titles except 00971 and 00003 (menu) resulting in a blanked main movie. This was OK because I used TSMuxer to loaded playlist 00971 and created a single m2ts for the main movie. I then renamed the 00000.m2ts and 00000.clpi to 00004 and replaced the files created by MultiAVCHD. I edited the 00000.mpls created by TSMuxer changing the m2ts to 00004 then replaced all of the main movie playlists with the edited one including 00321.mpls which includes the 'Your disc can't play' clip. The menu and all chapter links were working so I then used BDRebuilder to resize the movie for BD25.
If you just want to do movie only, then use TSMuxer on playlist 971 and output as BluRay then use BDRebuilder to resize the created files.
I use MultiAVCHD since the blank title option in BDRebuilder has yet to be finished. With each new release I hope that it will be be finished but not so far. Why not just select the correct playlist from within BD-RB directly instead of making it complicated?
Ch3vr0n
22nd August 2012, 16:38
Because unless I'm mistaking you can only do a movie only with an alternate playlist, somewhere near the bottom open said something about keeping menu etc too. With an alternate playlist, you lose the menu.
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jdobbs
22nd August 2012, 16:48
If you are doing a full backup, then you don't have to worry about any of it... because the structure will transfer over and work the same. A movie-only uses only one MPLS anyway, so all you have to do is select it.
As for "blanking" or removing the other playlists -- you couldn't "blank" or "remove" any of them anyway -- because they contain pointers to the exact same video that is in the true playback, they are just referenced out of order. I guess if they are unreferenced you could simply dump the MPLS or ignore it -- but in the end you would have the same thing as a full backup anyway.
Removing this kind of stuff accomplishes nothing -- you save no space (because they are referenced elsewhere), you take the chance of screwing up the internal functioning and menuing system, and in the end you get about the same thing as a full backup would have done with a single click. It's like going around the world to get to the other side of the street -- sure it works, but why would you choose that option?
jellyhead1
22nd August 2012, 18:40
Why not just select the correct playlist from within BD-RB directly instead of making it complicated?
True, you can do that with BDRebuilder but you will wait 1.5+ hrs to find out if you have the movie you want. I use TSMuxer when creating a movie only BR so I can check to make sure the movie plays as it should without wasting hrs with BDRebuilder. I suppose you can just use the preview feature in BDRebuilder but I just like to do it this way, it only takes a matter of minutes with TSMuxer. When done I use BDRebuilder to resize.
BDRebuilder doesn't currently offer any way to create a movie with extras stripped but retaining the menu. This is why all the extra steps are necessary before using BDRebuilder to resize. I use MultiAVCHD to blank all playlists I don't want such as previews and warnings. When there are multiple playlists for the same clips it doesn't work correctly though.
I'm hoping the blanking feature in BDRebuilder will be functional soon.
Adbear
22nd August 2012, 19:11
BDRebuilder doesn't currently offer any way to create a movie with extras stripped but retaining the menu.It does, it just doesn't let you choose a different playlist when using that option
AmigaFuture
22nd August 2012, 20:36
It's like going around the world to get to the other side of the street -- sure it works, but why would you choose that option?
Perhaps for the adventure which leads to experience? :D Especially if you ~go~ around the world just to get to that other side of the street..the people you meet, the sites you see, the adventures you have while getting there. Much like some blind friends helping Me to "see"/hear video/audio with more detail than just accepting "What Is". If I just accepted "It looks/sounds good enough.." then where's the beyond mainstream adventure in That?
I thought it pretty cool what Jellyhead1 did.
High Speed option for BD-25 is swEEEEt, but an option for rebuild without compression would be really nice. Something like DVD Rebuilder has. A thought, for what it's worth. :D
mayhem2408
22nd August 2012, 21:40
I have bene using BD-rebuilder for a long time now. In the past I have only been creating BD25 discs. Recently I started creating 1080p MKVs. I am mainly using the MKV 1920x1080 640kbs DD5.1, but sometimes use the 1280x720 448kbs DD5.1.
The MKV file is created and appears to play, but the subtitles are on automatically by default. So I run mkvmerge GUI to change the subtitles to default as no. This way I still have the subs if I want them, but are not on by default. However mkvmerge starts popping errors in the log that the structure is corrupt, Resyncing. etc. Eventually it fails.
However, If I take the 264, AC3, SUP and chapter files from the WORKING folder and manually merge them, the resulting MKV is fine and none of the individual files are corrupt.
Is there a parameter I might have wrong?
MKVMERGE LOG based on MKV created by BD-Rebuilder:
mkvmerge v5.7.0 ('The Whirlwind') built on Jul 8 2012 20:08:51
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'Matroska'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV' track 1: Using the output module for the format 'AC3'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV' track 3: Using the output module for the format 'PGS'.
The file 'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01 (1).mkv' has been opened for writing.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 566670502. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 567732205.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 583740369. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 584087942.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 775978006. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 776833055.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 793108216. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
Resyncing successful at position 793250521.
H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\BATTLESHIP_G51_01.MKV: Error in the Matroska file structure at position 1448150014. Resyncing to the next level 1 element.
MKVMERGE LOG based on 264,AC3,SUP,CHP files created by BD-Rebuilder:
mkvmerge v5.7.0 ('The Whirlwind') built on Jul 8 2012 20:08:51
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\VID_00023.AVS.264': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\AUD_00023_4353.AC3': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'AC3'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\00023.track_4609.sup': Using the demultiplexer for the format 'PGSSUP'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\VID_00023.AVS.264' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AVC/h.264'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\AUD_00023_4353.AC3' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'AC3'.
'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\WORKFILES\00023.track_4609.sup' track 0: Using the output module for the format 'PGS'.
The file 'H:\BATTLESHIP_720p_MKV\Battleship (2012) 720p.h264.ac3.sup.chap.mkv' has been opened for writing.
The cue entries (the index) are being written...
Muxing took 2 minutes 9 seconds.
nozuul
23rd August 2012, 00:09
If you are doing a full backup, then you don't have to worry about any of it... because the structure will transfer over and work the same. A movie-only uses only one MPLS anyway, so all you have to do is select it.
As for "blanking" or removing the other playlists -- you couldn't "blank" or "remove" any of them anyway -- because they contain pointers to the exact same video that is in the true playback, they are just referenced out of order. I guess if they are unreferenced you could simply dump the MPLS or ignore it -- but in the end you would have the same thing as a full backup anyway.
Removing this kind of stuff accomplishes nothing -- you save no space (because they are referenced elsewhere), you take the chance of screwing up the internal functioning and menuing system, and in the end you get about the same thing as a full backup would have done with a single click. It's like going around the world to get to the other side of the street -- sure it works, but why would you choose that option?
I actual tried the full backup first with this movie. It completed without any errors, but the disk will not play in any blue ray player I have, or on the computer. I read on other boards that other people were having this issue with Hunger Games. I just made a movie only backup and it worked fine. Entire disk gave me a headache...:(
mayhem2408
23rd August 2012, 05:29
After playing around a bit, I have captured the command line sent to mkvmerge and reproduced the problem at the command line, however if I remove the --default-duration 0:23.976fps parameter from the command line, the resulting file does not appear to be corrupt. I also tried changing the default duration to 0:24000/1001p and that appears to work OK as well. Has anyone else experienced this problem.
Adbear
23rd August 2012, 06:28
I actual tried the full backup first with this movie. It completed without any errors, but the disk will not play in any blue ray player I have, or on the computer. I read on other boards that other people were having this issue with Hunger Games. I just made a movie only backup and it worked fine. Entire disk gave me a headache...:(
Did you check that the rip plays back on your PC before running it through BD rebuilder. Some of the people over on the Slysoft forum had to re-rip the movie with everything set to 'default' and just the region code removed before they got a working copy.
nozuul
23rd August 2012, 06:42
Did you check that the rip plays back on your PC before running it through BD rebuilder. Some of the people over on the Slysoft forum had to re-rip the movie with everything set to 'default' and just the region code removed before they got a working copy.
I have not yet tried to re-rip it, partly because I was able to get the main movie, and partly because I didn't recall ever messing with the default settings to begin with. Just figured I'd call the main movie good enough and not risk another disk. I'm cheap that way. :rolleyes:
Adbear
23rd August 2012, 06:45
But did you check the original rip by playing it on your PC in PDVD or TMT?
jdobbs
23rd August 2012, 17:28
Perhaps for the adventure which leads to experience? :D Especially if you ~go~ around the world just to get to that other side of the street..the people you meet, the sites you see, the adventures you have while getting there. Much like some blind friends helping Me to "see"/hear video/audio with more detail than just accepting "What Is". If I just accepted "It looks/sounds good enough.." then where's the beyond mainstream adventure in That?
I thought it pretty cool what Jellyhead1 did.
High Speed option for BD-25 is swEEEEt, but an option for rebuild without compression would be really nice. Something like DVD Rebuilder has. A thought, for what it's worth. :DTo force a disc to rebuild without compression you would add FORCE_NOENCODE=1 to your config file.
jdobbs
23rd August 2012, 17:46
I actual tried the full backup first with this movie. It completed without any errors, but the disk will not play in any blue ray player I have, or on the computer. I read on other boards that other people were having this issue with Hunger Games. I just made a movie only backup and it worked fine. Entire disk gave me a headache...:( I would check the original and make sure it is good. In all the discs I've done in testing (a huge number) I have yet to have found one that will not successfully backup in full backup mode. The only exception might be related to playback of secondary audio with DTS Express -- and even that is dependent on certain players.
jdobbs
23rd August 2012, 17:52
True, you can do that with BDRebuilder but you will wait 1.5+ hrs to find out if you have the movie you want. I use TSMuxer when creating a movie only BR so I can check to make sure the movie plays as it should without wasting hrs with BDRebuilder. I suppose you can just use the preview feature in BDRebuilder but I just like to do it this way, it only takes a matter of minutes with TSMuxer. When done I use BDRebuilder to resize.
BDRebuilder doesn't currently offer any way to create a movie with extras stripped but retaining the menu. This is why all the extra steps are necessary before using BDRebuilder to resize. I use MultiAVCHD to blank all playlists I don't want such as previews and warnings. When there are multiple playlists for the same clips it doesn't work correctly though.
I'm hoping the blanking feature in BDRebuilder will be functional soon.1. You don't have to wait... that's why there is a preview mode. The fact that you don't like to preview isn't the same thing as "you have to wait 1.5 hours". You have to preview some way even if you do it your way...
2. BD-RB does offer a mode with extras stripped out. Although it is experimental, you may want to search this thread.
3. Blanking works now (see #2) -- but, like any other way of blanking you need to review it and make sure you are blanking what you want.
So I guess the point is... until you learn all the features of the software you shouldn't make assumptions as to what it can and can't do -- or telling others the same.
colinhunt
23rd August 2012, 22:35
Found a bug relating to aspect ratios. Did a full backup of Eureka's Punishment Park (UK release) which includes a 28:29min introduction by the director. The source video specs, according to MediaInfo, are AVC, 35Mbps CBR, 16:9 AR, 24fps progressive -- and a resolution of 1440x1080.
BD-RB v0.41.01's Stream window says the file is MPEG-4 (AVC), 1080p, 24fps. Encoding log says of the file:
- [21:57:36] Processing: VID_00006 (3 of 4)
- [21:57:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [21:59:41] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 41*032 frames
- Bitrate: 25*172 Kbs
- [21:59:41] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:09:29] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:05] Video Encode complete
What comes out after processing is an AVC file with an AR of 4:3 and a resolution of 1440x1080. The image is horizontally squashed.
jdobbs
23rd August 2012, 23:23
Found a bug relating to aspect ratios. Did a full backup of Eureka's Punishment Park (UK release) which includes a 28:29min introduction by the director. The source video specs, according to MediaInfo, are AVC, 35Mbps CBR, 16:9 AR, 24fps progressive -- and a resolution of 1440x1080.
BD-RB v0.41.01's Stream window says the file is MPEG-4 (AVC), 1080p, 24fps. Encoding log says of the file:
- [21:57:36] Processing: VID_00006 (3 of 4)
- [21:57:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [21:59:41] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24,000fps, 41*032 frames
- Bitrate: 25*172 Kbs
- [21:59:41] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:09:29] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:53:05] Video Encode complete
What comes out after processing is an AVC file with an AR of 4:3 and a resolution of 1440x1080. The image is horizontally squashed. Is this from an original BD disc?
jellyhead1
24th August 2012, 09:52
2. BD-RB does offer a mode with extras stripped out. Although it is experimental, you may want to search this thread.
I guess I don't understand how it works, i only see a full disk and movie only. How are the extras stripped.
3. Blanking works now (see #2) -- but, like any other way of blanking you need to review it and make sure you are blanking what you want.
I guess I don't understand how the blanking function works. For me this option is always greyed out. I do have all the required apps installed including #2 - Avisynth v2.58
NM, I just found post #12911
colinhunt
24th August 2012, 12:06
Is this from an original BD disc?
Only pre-processing was done by AnyDVD for ripping to HDD. Original really has a resolution of 1440x1080, something I haven't seen on a Blu-ray before.
RobertM
24th August 2012, 12:40
I guess I don't understand how it works, i only see a full disk and movie only. How are the extras stripped.
Here's a link to where the discussion began about how to use these experimental features: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1526277#post1526277
jdobbs
24th August 2012, 14:09
Only pre-processing was done by AnyDVD for ripping to HDD. Original really has a resolution of 1440x1080, something I haven't seen on a Blu-ray before. It's legal according to the spec, but I've never seen one either. The reason it is stretched is because 1440x1080 should always be displayed with black bars on the sides (making it 1920x1080). I'm going to look around and see if I can find an original in that format so I can do some testing.
ihmcjacky
24th August 2012, 16:42
When the region is set to Chinese (taiwan), bd-rebuilder cannot read the bd folder and encounters the following message
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m112/ihmcjacky/111-9.jpg
But when I try to change the region setting to English, it does not appear, please note and fix this bug, thanks!
Adbear
24th August 2012, 17:29
It's legal according to the spec, but I've never seen one either. The reason it is stretched is because 1440x1080 should always be displayed with black bars on the sides (making it 1920x1080). I'm going to look around and see if I can find an original in that format so I can do some testing.
Are you sure about that, 1440 uses non square pixels (1.33) so it should always show as full frame without black bars down the side. All my own 1440x1080 footage plays back as full frame when I put it onto a Blu-ray
A.Fenderson
24th August 2012, 20:10
Are you sure about that, 1440 uses non square pixels (1.33) so it should always show as full frame without black bars down the side. All my own 1440x1080 footage plays back as full frame when I put it onto a Blu-ray
Agreed. I have a number of adult releases that use 1440x1080, some interlaced some progressive, and they're all 16:9 DAR, which is the only BD-spec allowed DAR for this resolution (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1399419#post1399419). I can understand why this would cause confusion, because the BD spec was built for a world of square pixels and HD, and yet there it is: anamorphic encoding at HD resolution.
edit: this might have been a concession to formats such as HDV which actually capture at 1440x1080, 16:9. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Specifications)
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 00:03
When the region is set to Chinese (taiwan), bd-rebuilder cannot read the bd folder and encounters the following message
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m112/ihmcjacky/111-9.jpg
But when I try to change the region setting to English, it does not appear, please note and fix this bug, thanks! That's probably because of the way I am using text strings in some code areas. In order to get it to work with an Asian language you'll probably have to set the "Language for Non-Unicode programs" in the control panel to a western language. I believe its under "Regional and Language Options".
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 00:04
Are you sure about that, 1440 uses non square pixels (1.33) so it should always show as full frame without black bars down the side. All my own 1440x1080 footage plays back as full frame when I put it onto a Blu-ray I'm confused. How can you display full screen with no black bars on a 16:9 screen without distortion? When you say "full frame" are you talking about "full" as in full-screen (4:3) or "full" as in "fills the screen on my 16:9 monitor"?
Have you backed any of these up with BD-RB? Did they reencode correctly?
NightHawkGuy
25th August 2012, 03:11
Recently I had a case of Windows 7 x64 displaying an exception popup about wavi.exe when it was finished for a rare Blu-Ray with LPCM for audio on the main title and BD Rebuilder would convert the LPCM audio track to AC3. The BD Rebuilder process would stop and wait for user input when the error message popped up.
I did some searching and found that someone had done a small code change about a year ago to wavi from the wavi v1.06 source to create wavi v1.06m specifically to resolve the bug in wavi that causes that exception to happen when wavi is cleaning up to close down.
I downloaded the newer wavi.exe version (v1.06m) and used it (in place of the older v1.06) with bd rebuilder and it worked fine this time, no more problem with using LPCM audio track and converting to AC3, no more error message.
Here is the link to the doom9 thread about the wavi fix, which includes the download link to the wavi106m.zip file:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=161639
Another source of a wavi bug fix for v1.06 regarding: bug in wav header - ID: 2957741
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2957741&group_id=196137&atid=956250
Might be useful in future bd rebuilder version to include that newer version of wavi to resolve the rare bug with some titles with LPCM audio track, if conversion to AC3 is desired.
SquallMX
25th August 2012, 05:35
I'm confused. How can you display full screen with no black bars on a 16:9 screen without distortion? When you say "full frame" are you talking about "full" as in full-screen (4:3) or "full" as in "fills the screen on my 16:9 monitor"?
Have you backed any of these up with BD-RB? Did they reencode correctly?
1440x1080 mode is anamorphic (16:9 material encoded at 4:3 resolution), I use that format for my BD9 backups (great middle point between 720p and full 1080p), BD-Rebuilder probably is using SAR 1:1 when re-encoding causing the wrong playback ratio, for proper playback just change the value to "--sar 4:3". :helpful:
PD: It would be great to have an option for use that resolution on BD-Rebuilder :).
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 07:06
After playing around a bit, I have captured the command line sent to mkvmerge and reproduced the problem at the command line, however if I remove the --default-duration 0:23.976fps parameter from the command line, the resulting file does not appear to be corrupt. I also tried changing the default duration to 0:24000/1001p and that appears to work OK as well. Has anyone else experienced this problem. I've modified the MKV output so that it no longer has any subtitles defaulted to "on". You'll see it in the next release.
I've never had an issue with setting the default-duration with fps... but I'll do some testing just to make sure everything is kosher.
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 07:09
1440x1080 mode is anamorphic (16:9 material encoded at 4:3 resolution), I use that format for my BD9 backups (great middle point between 720p and full 1080p), BD-Rebuilder probably is using SAR 1:1 when re-encoding causing the wrong playback ratio, for proper playback just change the value to "--sar 4:3". :helpful:
PD: It would be great to have an option for use that resolution on BD-Rebuilder :). The PITA part is recognizing the 1440x1080 source. I've been getting the video information from the CLPI and MPLS files, which tells you it is 1080p... but doesn't specify the horizontal resolution. At this point all 1080p sources are just assumed to be 1920x1080... I guess I need to add some code to do a look at the M2TS itself for the horizontal resolution. Interesting that with all the discs I've done I've never run into one with that source resolution.
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 07:15
Recently I had a case of Windows 7 x64 displaying an exception popup about wavi.exe when it was finished for a rare Blu-Ray with LPCM for audio on the main title and BD Rebuilder would convert the LPCM audio track to AC3. The BD Rebuilder process would stop and wait for user input when the error message popped up.
I did some searching and found that someone had done a small code change about a year ago to wavi from the wavi v1.06 source to create wavi v1.06m specifically to resolve the bug in wavi that causes that exception to happen when wavi is cleaning up to close down.
I downloaded the newer wavi.exe version (v1.06m) and used it (in place of the older v1.06) with bd rebuilder and it worked fine this time, no more problem with using LPCM audio track and converting to AC3, no more error message.
Here is the link to the doom9 thread about the wavi fix, which includes the download link to the wavi106m.zip file:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=161639
Another source of a wavi bug fix for v1.06 regarding: bug in wav header - ID: 2957741
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2957741&group_id=196137&atid=956250
Might be useful in future bd rebuilder version to include that newer version of wavi to resolve the rare bug with some titles with LPCM audio track, if conversion to AC3 is desired. Thanks. I'll download it and do some testing -- and if all is well, I'll include it in the next release.
Adbear
25th August 2012, 08:11
The PITA part is recognizing the 1440x1080 source. I've been getting the video information from the CLPI and MPLS files, which tells you it is 1080p... but doesn't specify the horizontal resolution. At this point all 1080p sources are just assumed to be 1920x1080... I guess I need to add some code to do a look at the M2TS itself for the horizontal resolution. Interesting that with all the discs I've done I've never run into one with that source resolution.
It's not something you normally find on commercial discs which is why you've probably never come cross it, but in the editing world HDV (anamorphic 1440x1080) cameras have been around for years (although they are now disappearing) and has been part of the Blu-ray spec since the beginning. Most people just convert it to 1920x1080 when outputting to Blu-ray.
lauguru
25th August 2012, 09:56
hello
bdrebuilder not saved correctly in custom target size mb, in the setup menu, when you write to save, not the file is saved in bdrebuilder.ini.
Must manually edit bdrebuilder.ini, so it is saved.
http://subir.cc/images/bugxux.jpg
Sharc
25th August 2012, 12:06
1440x1080 mode is anamorphic (16:9 material encoded at 4:3 resolution), I use that format for my BD9 backups (great middle point between 720p and full 1080p), BD-Rebuilder probably is using SAR 1:1 when re-encoding causing the wrong playback ratio, for proper playback just change the value to "--sar 4:3". :helpful:
PD: It would be great to have an option for use that resolution on BD-Rebuilder :).
Agree. 1440x1080 @ --sar 4:3 for DAR 16:9 is fully blu-ray standard compliant, same as the more usual 1920x1080. I have also made a couple of such anamorphic backups using this format on BD5 and have no playback issues on the SONY S360. I have however not seen this format on any commercial Blu-Ray disk so far.
+1 to get it into BD-RB as an option :)
Adbear
25th August 2012, 15:35
hello
bdrebuilder not saved correctly in custom target size mb, in the setup menu, when you write to save, not the file is saved in bdrebuilder.ini.
Must manually edit bdrebuilder.ini, so it is saved.
Works fine here on 4 different systems, must be something on your system blocking BD rebuilder from altering the .ini file
lauguru
25th August 2012, 15:36
hello
other problem or bug
bdrebuilder not capable of extracting audio from Ucontrol pip
http://subir.cc/images/bugucontro.jpg
lauguru
25th August 2012, 15:40
Works fine here on 4 different systems, must be something on your system blocking BD rebuilder from altering the .ini file
hello
have the latest version of bdrebuilder? the v041.01?
my previous versions in me works perfect, but in this version, I have to not let me edit and save bdrebuilder.in.
I know it can not happen!
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 15:42
hello
other problem or bug
bdrebuilder not capable of extracting audio from Ucontrol pip
http://subir.cc/images/bugucontro.jpgSearch for DTSX_ENABLE=1 in this thread.
jdobbs
25th August 2012, 15:43
hello
have the latest version of bdrebuilder? the v041.01?
my previous versions in me works perfect, but in this version, I have to not let me edit and save bdrebuilder.in.
I know it can not happen! Where did you install it? Did you follow the directions and not install it in the "Program Files" path?
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