BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

They did reencode this time, though -- originally the process only took a couple of hours and little memory because apparently all it was doing was stripping out unwanted audio tracks. But for this batch process it took an entire weekend, maxed out my memory and CPU while running and the resulting files were significantly smaller than the first attempt (though still not small enough).

I'll attach my encode log to show that video really was being reencoded.

Again, my current INI file looks like this:


[Options]
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=23200
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;fas;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
FULL_AVCHD=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
FORCE_ENCODE=1
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=\\.PSF\EXTRA\BD\TEMP\
SOURCE_PATH=W:\BD\DECRYPTED\STARTSHIP_TROOPERS_1_P1\
Then where is the INF from that one? The others won't do any good...

[brianus]

Then where is the INF from that one? The others won't do any good...

Those are the INF's that were generated this weekend. I don't have the ones from previous jobs (in fact I had never tried A Mighty Heart or Green Mile before setting FORCE_ENCODE=1).

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Just curious, and you are probably already aware of this, :) , but as I reported a problem a few days ago about missing button highlights on a BD-RB backup, I notice that if I load the menu .m2ts file in tsMuxeR, it displays only 2 streams, a MPEG2 and a AC3. If, However, I load that same .m2ts file in TsRemux, it displays 3 streams, MPEG2, AC3 and an Interactive Graphics Stream.
So it appears that tsMuxeR is the cause for the missing button highlights. :rolleyes:
Now, to get this and DTS Express secondary audio licked will be another obstacle for you! :p

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs;
Just curious, and you are probably already aware of this, :) , but as I reported a problem a few days ago about missing button highlights on a BD-RB backup, I notice that if I load the menu .m2ts file in tsMuxeR, it displays only 2 streams, a MPEG2 and a AC3. If, However, I load that same .m2ts file in TsRemux, it displays 3 streams, MPEG2, AC3 and an Interactive Graphics Stream.
So it appears that tsMuxeR is the cause for the missing button highlights. :rolleyes:
Now, to get this and DTS Express secondary audio licked will be another obstacle for you! :pThis is actually good news. That means that it is the problem I was suspecting. I can fix that one with a little remuxing magic. :) This isn't the same disc/problem were were discussing in posts #8761 and #8762 is it?

[Capsbackup]

This is actually good news. That means that it is the problem I was suspecting. I can fix that one with a little remuxing magic. :) This isn't the same disc/problem were were discussing in posts #8761 and #8762 is it?

Yes actually it is. I guess I was mis-reading BDEdit, or at least was not viewing the correct playlist when I reported last time.:o
Sorry about that, and I will hold on to that one on my hard drive for testing if you would like! :) To be able to confirm "I can fix that one with a little remuxing magic". :p

[gamete]

can i set a delay when reencode the movie with bdrebuilder?

[jdobbs]

Yes actually it is. I guess I was mis-reading BDEdit, or at least was not viewing the correct playlist when I reported last time.:o
Sorry about that, and I will hold on to that one on my hard drive for testing if you would like! :) To be able to confirm "I can fix that one with a little remuxing magic". :p Give me a couple of days and I'll get a test version to you. I'm writing a module to handle this and also DTS Express PiP audio.

[Capsbackup]

Give me a couple of days and I'll get a test version to you. I'm writing a module to handle this and also DTS Express PiP audio.

:) Excellent! Very good news. I will be looking forward to it. :)

[HatchetMan]

Look in all the entries in the INF files. They all say NSIZE=0. That's means they aren't being reencoded, otherwise that would be set to the size after reencoding. Your configuration has to be hosed... It sure looks like your system has "FORCE_NOENCODE" set.

I don't think it is related to .2 -- in fact you are the only person reporting this issue.

See post # 8643.

[jdobbs]

[/B]

See post # 8643. Different. Look at your INF and look at his. They're not even close to the same...

[HatchetMan]

Different. Look at your INF and look at his. They're not even close to the same...

I was referencing the oversize. If his is so different, any ideas on mine?

[jdobbs]

I was referencing the oversize. If his is so different, any ideas on mine?Frankly I don't know how yours oversized. I looked at all the files -- and it looks like it should be sized correctly to me. Is there any chance you may have changed the audio selections after encoding but before before building? BD-RB doesn't readjust when that happens.

[Edit] Actually I'm confused looking at your INF for a second time. On 00008 the INF says "USE_ORIGINAL=1" -- but NSIZE is greater than the target. That should be impossible unless "FORCE_NOENCODE" is set -- and that would affect all the streams. There's gotta' be a bug in there somewhere.

[HatchetMan]

Frankly I don't know how yours oversized. I looked at all the files -- and it looks like it should be sized correctly to me. Is there any chance you may have changed the audio selections after encoding but before before building? BD-RB doesn't readjust when that happens.

[Edit] Actually I'm confused looking at your INF for a second time. On 00008 the INF says "USE_ORIGINAL=1" -- but NSIZE is greater than the target. That should be impossible unless "FORCE_NOENCODE" is set -- and that would affect all the streams. There's gotta' be a bug in there somewhere.

I absolutely did not touch anything between encoding and building. I have also never touched any of the hidden settings. The oversize only happened on this disc, but three times in a row, so I finally just backed up 'movie only' and came out with a pretty small output. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I absolutely did not touch anything between encoding and building. I have also never touched any of the hidden settings. The oversize only happened on this disc, but three times in a row, so I finally just backed up 'movie only' and came out with a pretty small output. Thanks. Can you post what audio streams you were keeping, the type of audio, and the settings? I'd like to see if maybe there was something unusual about them that confused BD-RB and it didn't set aside enough space. Right now BD-RB apparently thinks the video will fit without reencoding -- but after it's muxed it is 1GB larger than it should be. Hmmm... can you also look at the size of the subtitles and see if they are large?

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
I have been reviewing my list of BD-RB backups that have experienced the no audio heard for the main title when making a full movie backup burned to BD5/9 media, and, though initially thought it was a problem with Universal titles, now believe it is related to PiP.
All of the Universal titles that I have done this way, the latest being The Bourne Identity, have PiP with DTS Express audio. I have set BD-RB to not include the PiP video for all of them, and they have all experienced the same results.
The multiAVCHD re-author while substituting an external audio for the main title has corrected this problem for all of them.
So it appears, as you expected, that there is nothing special or different about Universal titles, except that they tend to have PiP with DTS Express audio, where others may not. However, as I experienced with Twilight, not a Universal title, but which had PiP with DTS Express audio, the results were the same as a Universal title.
This issue seems to only occur when using DVD media and not BD-R/RE media.
My hope is that this will help you uncover the cause, so that we all can make reliable full movie backups to BD5/9 media regardless of the contents/structure of the original retail Blu-ray. :)

[drmih]

@jdobbs;
I have been reviewing my list of BD-RB backups that have experienced the no audio heard for the main title when making a full movie backup burned to BD5/9 media, and, though initially thought it was a problem with Universal titles, now believe it is related to PiP.
All of the Universal titles that I have done this way, the latest being The Bourne Identity, have PiP with DTS Express audio. I have set BD-RB to not include the PiP video for all of them, and they have all experienced the same results.
The multiAVCHD re-author while substituting an external audio for the main title has corrected this problem for all of them.
So it appears, as you expected, that there is nothing special or different about Universal titles, except that they tend to have PiP with DTS Express audio, where others may not. However, as I experienced with Twilight, not a Universal title, but which had PiP with DTS Express audio, the results were the same as a Universal title.
This issue seems to only occur when using DVD media and not BD-R/RE media.
My hope is that this will help you uncover the cause, so that we all can make reliable full movie backups to BD5/9 media regardless of the contents/structure of the original retail Blu-ray. :)

I'm sure that you're aware of this, but it only occurs on Sony standalone players on bd5/9. I presume from what you have tried that it may be the Sony being very strict to the standard and of course it will be nice if something is found which makes the Sonys work as well.

[Capsbackup]

I'm sure that you're aware of this, but it only occurs on Sony standalone players on bd5/9. I presume from what you have tried that it may be the Sony being very strict to the standard and of course it will be nice if something is found which makes the Sonys work as well.

No actually I was not aware of this, but thought Sony standalone players were the most compatible when it comes to AVCHD. I am aware that jdobbs has the same player, and has reported great success with his backups.
This could be easily reproduced by jdobbs if he has any of these movies or types I have listed, and since he has the same Sony S360, may also help him determine whatever necessary corrections will make these backups more compatible with all players. :)

[drmih]

I also have a 360 and 550 which have this exact issue with PiP discs but have a couple of other standalones which play the discs fine - they are cheaper products which the kids have in their bedrooms but never the less play the discs okay. They also seem to manage with the discs where the Sony's loose some of the buttons on the main menu (Che - parts 1 and 2 come to mind).

[Capsbackup]

I also have a 360 and 550 which have this exact issue with PiP discs but have a couple of other standalones which play the discs fine - they are cheaper products which the kids have in their bedrooms but never the less play the discs okay. They also seem to manage with the discs where the Sony's loose some of the buttons on the main menu (Che - parts 1 and 2 come to mind).

This may be good news, if other mfg's are making players with better compatibility for AVCHD. My experience with Samsung, Panasonic, and LG, at least in the past, have not been favorable. I know there are many others too, so this is encouraging! :p

[jdobbs]

This is very definitely a Sony-only issue. But since I have a Sony, it is also a high priority! ;)

[Capsbackup]

This is very definitely a Sony-only issue. But since I have a Sony, it is also a high priority! ;)

Well I'm right there with you then! :p
I will be happy to share my I7, and with your Phenom II X4 945, lets hammer out some of these stubborn bugs. :cool:

[Capsbackup]

You can just run BD-RB from that new, unzipped file. Or, you could copy only the configuration settings from your previous unzipped file to the new folder if you want to keep your old settings.

[cartman0208]

First of all: GREAT PROGRAM :thanks:

I just tried to Backup Pelham_123 and BD Rebuilder failed to reencode 04999.m2ts
- [10:39:16] Reencoding: VID_04999 (6 of 20)
- [10:39:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 4.316 Kbs
- [10:39:16] Reencoding: VID_04999, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.


Same thing with "The ugly truth", same file name, same size.
I first suspected ffdshow, so I reinstalled it, but no success.

Arcsoft Mediaplayer gives me "unsupported file type" on the file and VLC player at least starts to play but without video, total length about 27:40 and stops playing at 3:35.

I did several backups until now, but none had that file.

Is there any strange codec, that has to be installed?
Am I the only one with that problem?
What am I missing?

[jdobbs]

First of all: GREAT PROGRAM :thanks:

I just tried to Backup Pelham_123 and BD Rebuilder failed to reencode 04999.m2ts
- [10:39:16] Reencoding: VID_04999 (6 of 20)
- [10:39:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 4.316 Kbs
- [10:39:16] Reencoding: VID_04999, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.


Same thing with "The ugly truth", same file name, same size.
I first suspected ffdshow, so I reinstalled it, but no success.

Arcsoft Mediaplayer gives me "unsupported file type" on the file and VLC player at least starts to play but without video, total length about 27:40 and stops playing at 3:35.

I did several backups until now, but none had that file.

Is there any strange codec, that has to be installed?
Am I the only one with that problem?
What am I missing?1. Did you install the exact support programs from the first post of this thead?

2. Run INSPECT.EXE and post your results.

3. When posting logs -- I need to see the whole thing...

[maximus rus]

hoju3508 and jdobbs
Thank you for trying to help me but i have this problem after uninstall/install all need programs and doing all necessary operations. Before i had this problem i used a non-recommended version of Haali Media Splitter like hoju3508 but now it's everything ok in inspect.exe but i still have the same audio sync issues...
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set "disabled", WMP11, Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.34.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[jdobbs]

Thanks, but I still don't understand. Which is the previous unzipped file? I installed the Pro version and then downloaded an update, so the update is the only thing I unzipped. The program is installed in my Program Files Folder, along with every other program I own. So do i just ignore that and run DVD Rebuilder from wherever it lays its head? It's like a hippy program with no permanent address? This is a BD Rebuilder bug thread. There is no "Pro" version of BD Rebuilder. If you're talking about DVD Rebuilder, I'd recommend you download the fully installable version. The "update" zips are only meant for those who are very familiar with DVD-RB and have extremely low download speeds.

[Sharc]

Not sure if this is a bug, or if I misundersand something.

My source is BD, 1080i, 25fps, MBAFF. (The video is actually progressive, the fields are identical i.e. no temporal shift between pairs of fields)
I resize with BD-RB to 720. If my understandig is right, blu-ray spec requires 'progressive@50fps' for 720 resolution.

BD-RB script:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.34.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("K:\......\00003.m2ts", fps=25, framecount=175445, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\VIDEO\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace()
LanczosResize(1280,720).ChangeFPS(50)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(25000,1000)
I understand that
- ChangeFPS(50) duplicates every frame to obtain the 50fps (350890 frames) for blu-ray compliancy for 720p, keeping the playback duration same as original.
- AssumeFPS(25000,1000) frameserves the duplicated frames to the enocoder at 25fps.

The encoded video stream (VID_00003.AVS.264) is eeventually reported as 720 progressive@25fps. Is this blue-ray compliant? Progressive is ok, but shouldn't it be 50 fps to comply with blu-ray specs? (In former versions of BD-RB the AssumeFPF(25000/1001) was not included..... IIRC.)

Secondly, perhaps beyond the scope: the frame duplication as above slows the encoding process down significantly (2x).
What about the alternative of just slowing down audio, video and sups to blu-ray compliant 24000/10001 in order to avoid the frame duplication? I personally wouldn't mind the slight audio pitch shift.

[setarip_old]

@cartman0208

Hi! I just tried to Backup Pelham_123 and BD Rebuilder failed to reencode 04999.m2ts.
Same thing with "The ugly truth", same file name, same size.

What software and procedures did you use to initially rip these two original Sony BluRay discs?

[cartman0208]

1. Did you install the exact support programs from the first post of this thead?
Yes


2. Run INSPECT.EXE and post your results.
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.34.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

3. When posting logs -- I need to see the whole thing...

Sorry, it's a bit crappy, because i had to abort several times, one time my computer hung up (my fault)
[17:27:02] BD Rebuilder v0.34.02 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 39,88 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:01:41.565]
- Target BD size: 8,11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:27:04] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:27:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:27:05] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 20)
- [17:27:05] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 346 frames
- Bitrate: 1.905 Kbs
- [17:27:05] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:27:26] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:27:53] Video Encode complete
- [17:27:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:27:54] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:27:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- [17:28:02] Reencoding: VID_00001 (2 of 20)
- [17:28:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.176 frames
- Bitrate: 862 Kbs
- [17:28:02] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
- [17:29:07] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
- [17:30:41] Video Encode complete
- [17:30:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:30:41] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:30:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
[17:36:42]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[19:47:17] BD Rebuilder v0.34.02 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 39,88 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:01:41.565]
- Target BD size: 8,11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[19:47:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [19:47:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
[19:47:29]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[20:14:40] BD Rebuilder v0.34.02 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 39,88 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:01:41.565]
- Target BD size: 8,11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[20:14:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:14:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
- [20:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 20)
- [20:24:45] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 152.376 frames
- Bitrate: 5.391 Kbs
- [20:24:45] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:43:43] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
[22:56:31]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[16:45:07] BD Rebuilder v0.34.02 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 39,88 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:01:41.565]
- Target BD size: 8,11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[16:45:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:45:08] Reencoding: VID_00011 (3 of 20)
- [16:45:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 152.376 frames
- Bitrate: 5.391 Kbs
- [16:45:08] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:05:57] Video Encode complete
- [21:05:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:14:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:18:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00081]
- [21:18:17] Reencoding: VID_00081 (4 of 20)
- [21:18:17] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.440 frames
- Bitrate: 2.955 Kbs
- [21:18:17] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 2
-----------------------
[10:36:51] BD Rebuilder v0.34.04 (beta)
- Source: PELHAM_123
- Input BD size: 39,88 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:01:41.565]
- Target BD size: 8,11 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[10:36:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:36:52] Reencoding: VID_00081 (4 of 20)
- [10:36:52] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.440 frames
- Bitrate: 2.955 Kbs
- [10:36:52] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:37:55] Reencoding: VID_00081, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:38:59] Video Encode complete
- [10:38:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:38:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:39:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
- [10:39:01] Reencoding: VID_00205 (5 of 20)
- [10:39:01] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 120 frames
- Bitrate: 3.554 Kbs
- [10:39:01] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 1 of 2
- [10:39:08] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 2 of 2
- [10:39:15] Video Encode complete
- [10:39:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [10:39:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [10:39:15] Extracting A/V streams [VID_04999]
- [10:39:16] Reencoding: VID_04999 (6 of 20)
- [10:39:16] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 720 frames
- Bitrate: 4.316 Kbs
- [10:39:16] Reencoding: VID_04999, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.34.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[10:39:20] - Failed video encode, aborted


What software and procedures did you use to initially rip these two original Sony BluRay discs?

I used DVDFab 7.

[Capsbackup]

I used DVDFab 7.

I suspect this is your problem. I had no problem with the region A version after using AnydvdHD.

[Shuttle99]

Not sure what changed from 33.02 to 33.04 but what ever it was the disc's no longer play in my Sharp player but they still play in my Panasonic player. I just purchased the sharp player and all disc's that were compressed up to v33.02 play in the Sharp but none play that were done with 33.04. I even tried the strick option and re-compressed and burned and its a no go. Any ideas let me know? These are movie only and DVD9.

[jdobbs]

Not sure if this is a bug, or if I misundersand something.

My source is BD, 1080i, 25fps, MBAFF. (The video is actually progressive, the fields are identical i.e. no temporal shift between pairs of fields)
I resize with BD-RB to 720. If my understandig is right, blu-ray spec requires 'progressive@50fps' for 720 resolution.

BD-RB script:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.34.04 (beta)
DirectshowSource("K:\......\00003.m2ts", fps=25, framecount=175445, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\VIDEO\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace()
LanczosResize(1280,720).ChangeFPS(50)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(25000,1000)
I understand that
- ChangeFPS(50) duplicates every frame to obtain the 50fps (350890 frames) for blu-ray compliancy for 720p, keeping the playback duration same as original.
- AssumeFPS(25000,1000) frameserves the duplicated frames to the enocoder at 25fps.

The encoded video stream (VID_00003.AVS.264) is eeventually reported as 720 progressive@25fps. Is this blue-ray compliant? Progressive is ok, but shouldn't it be 50 fps to comply with blu-ray specs? (In former versions of BD-RB the AssumeFPF(25000/1001) was not included..... IIRC.)

Secondly, perhaps beyond the scope: the frame duplication as above slows the encoding process down significantly (2x).
What about the alternative of just slowing down audio, video and sups to blu-ray compliant 24000/10001 in order to avoid the frame duplication? I personally wouldn't mind the slight audio pitch shift. That's definitely a bug. The "AssumeFPS()" is incorrect. As for the 50fps... I think what I'll do is use the new pulldown feature in X264 to double the framerate. That way you'll just encode the original, but the playback will double the rate. I'll have to test that to see how it works, though.

[jdobbs]

Right, but you advised me when I bought the pro version of DVD Rebuilder to download the update, which I did, and I don't know what the do with it. I'm a bit puzzled. Is it a secret?

Sorry about OTing this thread, but whenever I do a search on *any* topic, this thread *always* shows up. In fact it was the only one that showed up. With the zip you can just replace the existing files in the DVD-RB directory.

When I say "Update" it means the newest version. The full install is an "update" as well, only to everything, the zip file just contains the files that changed (those that were updated) that's why it is called "updates only".

[Sharc]

That's definitely a bug. The "AssumeFPS()" is incorrect. As for the 50fps... I think what I'll do is use the new pulldown feature in X264 to double the framerate. That way you'll just encode the original, but the playback will double the rate. I'll have to test that to see how it works, though.
Ok, thanks. In the meantime the encode has finished and the video plays at half speed (the duplicated frames), whereas the audio is at regular speed. File size is about double size a s well.
Your new proposal sounds promising as it will also reduce the encoding time accordingly, I presume. I will be glad to test it :)

[cartman0208]

I suspect this is your problem. I had no problem with the region A version after using AnydvdHD.

Is there a problem with Sony BluRays?
What would AnyDVD do different than DVDFab?

[jdobbs]

Is there a problem with Sony BluRays?
What would AnyDVD do different than DVDFab? I don't know if it's the problem in your case. But your symptoms are unusual. Go back through this thread and you'll see lots of instances where AnyDVD works and DVDFab doesn't.

[Sharc]

Ok, thanks. In the meantime the encode has finished and the video plays at half speed (the duplicated frames), whereas the audio is at regular speed. File size is about double size a s well.
Your new proposal sounds promising as it will also reduce the encoding time accordingly, I presume. I will be glad to test it :)
@jdobbs
--pulldown double seems to be the perfect solution in this case (1080i@25fps -> 720p@50 fps). I just have to finalize the running encode, burn it and play it on the standalone for verification.

[Shuttle99]

jdobbs, any idea what has changed from 33.02 to 33.04 all movies done in movie only no longer play on my Sharp player. I was going to try it again with 33.02 but it no longer works. Any ideas I even selected strict in the setup but it did not work either. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, any idea what has changed from 33.02 to 33.04 all movies done in movie only no longer play on my Sharp player. I was going to try it again with 33.02 but it no longer works. Any ideas I even selected strict in the setup but it did not work either. Thanks. The only change that could have any affect might be the updated X264 and the Open GOP support. You may want to try disabling Open GOP support from the SETUP menu -- but if that truly is the problem it would indicate a bug in the Sharp player, not X264. Open GOP as implemented in X264 (with the bluray parameter) should be supported by the Blu-Ray standard. I'd say the odds are low for that... have you changed anything else on your system or player setup?

[Shuttle99]

I will re-run it again with the GOP unselected. Nothing has changed they just stopped working with 33.04 they do still work on the Panasonic so they are good but the Sharp does not like something it is seeing. I will let you know after it gets done and I test it. Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the most recent update of BD-RB (v0.34.05). Changes for this release:- Added code to generate chapter files to be used with
X264's "--qpfile" command. This will assert I frames
at appropriate points during encoding, should provide
better continuity with the new open GOP structures,
and may prevent possible slight delays at chapter
points during chapter seeking.
- Added an option to the SETUP dialog to enable or
disable movie-only playback looping. Unclicking the
option will result in movie-only discs stopping at the
end rather than restarting (looping).
- Corrected an error in which conversion to 720p for
25fps sources was incorrectly setting the value used
in AssumeFPS(). This could result in "slow motion"
video and out-of-sync audio when converting to 720p on
PAL area discs (25fps).
- Added a new hidden option called "KEEP_HD_LPCM". If
set to "0" while also keeping HD audio for BD25, only
DTS and DD HD audio will be kept intact. LPCM will be
converted to AC3. This is meant to help prevent huge
LPCM audio streams from stealing too much space and
negatively affecting video quality. The default value
is "1".
- Updated the included version of X264.EXE to the
latest release (r1677).
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[jdobbs]

@Capsbackup
Give me a couple of days and I'll get a test version to you. I'm writing a module to handle this and also DTS Express PiP audio.I'm going to need more time. I was hoping to finish it today, but have a long way to go. I have company visiting this week, so it may be a while.

[Sharc]

That's definitely a bug. The "AssumeFPS()" is incorrect. As for the 50fps... I think what I'll do is use the new pulldown feature in X264 to double the framerate. That way you'll just encode the original, but the playback will double the rate. I'll have to test that to see how it works, though.
I just noted that you fixed the AssumeFPS() issue with the new version 0.34.05. Thanks.
I made some tests with --pulldown double in the meantime. It seems to work, however I had to replace in the tsmuxer *.meta the original fps=25 by fps=50 for the video, For the sups I had to keep the original fps=25.
Not sure if the resulting stream is really blu-ray compliant, it however plays on the SONY S357 (=360).

[jdobbs]

I just noted that you fixed the AssumeFPS() issue with the new version 0.34.05. Thanks.
I made some tests with --pulldown double in the meantime. It seems to work, however I had to replace in the tsmuxer *.meta the original fps=25 by fps=50 for the video, For the sups I had to keep the original fps=25.
Not sure if the resulting stream is really blu-ray compliant, it however plays on the SONY S357 (=360). I'll experiment with it. Hmmm... I didn't think about the sups -- I'd better check that.

[skylab1]

I am getting error on VC-1 encode video, for some reason it stop working. I already reinstall ffshow, avisynth and Matroska Splitter, VC-1 in ffshow is set to wmv9 like before bdrebuilder still won't encode VC-1 video. Does anyone know how to mix this? I am running Windows 7 64bit.

Note: I never had this problem until about few weeks ago.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[14:53:53] BD Rebuilder v0.34.04 (beta)
- Source: THE.NEVERENDING.STORY.BLURAY.1080P.VC-1.DTS-HD.MA5.1-BLUWAVE
- Input BD size: 17.97 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:34:04.597]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[14:53:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:53:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
- [15:37:46] Reencoding: VID_00020 (1 of 1)
- [15:37:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 135,335 frames
- Bitrate: 10,579 Kbs
- [15:37:47] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.34.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3124, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[15:41:21] - Failed video encode, aborted

[jdobbs]

- FFDSHOW: 3124, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

You have to set up according to the first post of this thread. I'm sorry, but I can't respond to self-inflicted injuries.

[skylab1]

- FFDSHOW: 3124, not recommended version
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly

You have to set up according to the first post of this thread. I'm sorry, but I can't respond to self-inflicted injuries.


I did followed the instruction, reinstall everything, still the same error:

[17:49:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00020 (1 of 1)
- [17:49:35] Collecting video information
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 135,335 frames
- Bitrate: 10,579 Kbs
- [17:49:35] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.34.04 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok


What I can't figure out is why VC-1 and Mpeg2 codec isn't set correctly for win 7 when it was working up until now?

[jdobbs]

The first time you run BD-RB, right click and select "Run as Administrator" and it will set the preferred CODECs automatically. Some other software you've installed probably decided to change them.

[Capsbackup]

@Capsbackup
I'm going to need more time. I was hoping to finish it today, but have a long way to go. I have company visiting this week, so it may be a while.

No problem, I learned the art of patience long ago! :p
It is enough to know you are working on it, I appreciate that. :)
Enjoy your company!

[skylab1]

The first time you run BD-RB, right click and select "Run as Administrator" and it will set the preferred CODECs automatically. Some other software you've installed probably decided to change them.

Ok thanks, I'll reinstall BD-RB and runs as admin see if this would correct the problem.

Thanks