BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[setarip_old]

@Elsy

Hi!

I guess you overlooked the title of this thread, which is:BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[GaPony]

@ setarip_old

He's preparing to make some bugs to report. :)

[jdobbs]

How or where can I modify the encoder settings ?Not in this thread. For that matter, not in BD-RB. You can choose the quality level and the settings associated, but not the specific command lines.

Thats purposeful and isn't likely to change. There a certain settings that are required to be Blu-ray compliant -- and I insist that I contol them to ensure it works. I've had too many problems with "creative users" causing a self-inflicted-sucking-chest-wound and then screaming at me...

Sorry.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs...

Just an update, it seems that Pinnochio is now the ONLY disc I own with PiP problems (obviously containing eac3 and not DTS express).

For now, I would maybe write it off as a quirk of this disc... I'm going to have PiP processing enabled by default in the next release.

I'd still like to see what the issue is on Pinnochio.

[Capsbackup]

Just completed a full movie backup to BD-25 of Transformers, Region A, a PiP movie with DD Plus secondary audio. The movie backs up successfully, but the secondary video track does not play like the original.
The original starts with some pop up descriptive subtitles surrounded by a border. BD-RB has only the english subtitles to the audio track, not the descriptive ones with the border around it. The PiP video and audio that starts at approx. six minutes into the movie works fine, just like the original.
So only the descriptive portion of the PiP does not seem to work correctly.

[jdobbs]

Just completed a full movie backup to BD-25 of Transformers, Region A, a PiP movie with DD Plus secondary audio. The movie backs up successfully, but the secondary video track does not play like the original.
The original starts with some pop up descriptive subtitles surrounded by a border. BD-RB has only the english subtitles to the audio track, not the descriptive ones with the border around it. The PiP video and audio that starts at approx. six minutes into the movie works fine, just like the original.
So only the descriptive portion of the PiP does not seem to work correctly. Look at your Subtitle selections in SETUP. For example, if you tell it to keep only one subtitle in a language, it might be stripping the one you're missing.

[Capsbackup]

Look at your Subtitle selections in SETUP. For example, if you tell it to keep only one subtitle in a language, it might be stripping the one you're missing.

I chose to select all subtitles. BD-RB appears to have hard coded the english subtitles to the english audio language track, and I cannot turn it off or change the selection.
Subtitles available for this 00010.m2ts are 2 eng,1 Fre, 1 Spa, and 1 Port.

EDIT:
Subtitles even play over the PiP video window. On the original, subtitles are not displayed and are not selectable either.
EDIT:
It looks like I missed a subtitle track after all. :o
I should know better, thats what the scroll bar is for. :p
I apologize, and will give it another try.

[drmih]

Is your Blu-Ray player's audio setup set to "Direct" for audio playback? If so, you may need to change it to "Mixed" to hear the secondary audio being played. I believe this is true for DTS HD Master, but not sure for True HD.( You will still hear your HD audio, it just might not be displayed on your receiver as such).
Thanks to Furiousflea for pointing this out to me. :)

..but the original plays fine on the same kit, and I tend to use TMT3 to check all of the settings to see what's 'on' and what's 'off'. TMT3 on a pc plays the ripped original fine but loses the secondary audio output on the bd-25 version.

[baudi]

@baudi;
What OS are you using? XP, Vista, W7?
I have an I7 920, using XP Pro 32bit, and have backed up many region 1, NTSC, VC-1 discs to BD-25 full movie and BD-5 movie only, and have never had a problem like this. I don't recall if these are field based VC-1 or not, just whats on the disc works. You will need to provide more info than this for any helpful suggestions.

Problem solved!

By installing MS Windows Media Video 11 my VC-1 problems were resolved.

My O.S. is Windows XP Pro 32bit SP3.

Thank you.

[daberti]

Defaults are:

NTSC @ 23.976
SAMPLE_GROUP=4800
SAMPLE_SIZE = "48"

NTSC @ 29.97
SAMPLE_GROUP=6000
SAMPLE_SIZE=60

PAL @ 25
SAMPLE_GROUP=5000
SAMPLE_SIZE=50

Thanks :)

One thing I cannot understand, though: all of my Blurays are labelled as Region B and PAL. Yet they are 23.976 .
Where is the trick?

[jdobbs]

Thanks :)

One thing I cannot understand, though: all of my Blurays are labelled as Region B and PAL. Yet they are 23.976 .
Where is the trick? If it's 23.976 it will use 4800/48 -- I guess I shouldn't have labeled that one as NTSC, since it's used in both (it wasn't in DVD).

[jdobbs]

To test the theory of potentially system instability, I ran 2 BD-RB jobs (different software versions) and one other CPU intensive job over the last 24 hours. MAD MEN SEASON2 DISC1 using v026.3 finished successfully having the correct output size of 23.4 GB. CAPOTE running v0.28.3 has not completed and is at 54%. Note both jobs have the same setup and initialization settings. MAD MEN was the larger of the two initial file sizes. Max CPU temperature reached 28C. My other job not related to BD-RB is still running as well. The odd thing is that v0.28.3 launched x264 and seems to have hung, I'm monitoring the memory and CPU usage through task manager as well as watching Haali's properties graphic. I'll update later with its status. Well no matter what results you get -- here's the bottom line. Your system isn't finishing a full encode. No one else is reporting the same problem as you. I ran the exact same disc on my computer and it came out right.

Just those three things alone make it virtually 100% clear that it is your system that is the issue, not BD-RB or X264. So no matter how the tests come out -- your system (the only remaining variable) is the issue.

Sorry -- but I've been doing this a long time, and when you remove the things that are proven ok from the equation, the problem is somewhere in the part that is remaining.

[jdobbs]

I sit possible that the new version is slower than the previous one? I use the default quality settings every time. Good enough for me. But I`ve lost about 5 frames per second on the first pass with the new version. Any idea? I'm wondering too. I'm in the middle of an encode at High Quality that is running at 4.59fps. While there's always the possibility that it could just be something peculiar in this source, I've always run at 8-9fps before and would only occasionally drop into the 7's.

After this pass is over I'll run a side-by-side comparison.

[Update] My virus scanner was running in background... duhhh.... I guess I'm not wondering anymore. :)

[Dark Shikari]

(assuming you're using a recent x264) MB-tree requires more processing in the lookahead of the first pass, so with large numbers of cores the first pass may be significantly slower. Second pass should be faster though.

This will be mostly mitigated when the threaded slicetype patch is done--it almost is.

Also, the Handbrake guys' testing has reported gains on TV and DVD sources of about 10-30%+ quality-wise with MB-tree, so I'd say it's worth it.

[jdobbs]

This is the second pass (using r1210). It's on four cores (all running at 100%). It's too early to report as fact, though. This movie has 2 1/2 hours of encoding left. When it's done I'll do some testing with old/new versions.

I've definitely seen improvement in quality with MB-tree, especially when the bitrate gets challenging. I have a Firefly series disc with 5 hours of HD video on it that never looked quite good enough in a backup to me before -- the newer versions cleaned it up nicely.

[jdobbs]

(assuming you're using a recent x264) MB-tree requires more processing in the lookahead of the first pass, so with large numbers of cores the first pass may be significantly slower. Second pass should be faster though.

This will be mostly mitigated when the threaded slicetype patch is done--it almost is.

Also, the Handbrake guys' testing has reported gains on TV and DVD sources of about 10-30%+ quality-wise with MB-tree, so I'd say it's worth it. Whatever it is it has nothing to do with MB-tree. I just killed the job and then took the commandline and ran it (pass 2) in two dos windows (exact same settings except --no-mbtree in one).

The window with mb-tree enabled is running about 6% faster than the "--no-mbtree" command.

[Capsbackup]

Just to confirm, Transformers does backup successfully with PiP working properly, descriptive subs and video, with PowerDVD 7.3. I will burn to BD-RE for final test on my BX1.
Thanks jdobbs for quickly finding my mistake. :p

[jdobbs]

Whatever it is it has nothing to do with MB-tree. I just killed the job and then took the commandline and ran it (pass 2) in two dos windows (exact same settings except --no-mbtree in one).

The window with mb-tree enabled is running about 6% faster than the "--no-mbtree" command.Same conclusion between versions. I also just ran two windows side-by-side (using r1195 and r1210) on pass 2 -- and r1210 is faster. So it's obviously something on my system or the source that's slowing it down, and nothing to do with X264 updates.

[jdobbs]

Problem solved!

By installing MS Windows Media Video 11 my VC-1 problems were resolved.

My O.S. is Windows XP Pro 32bit SP3.

Thank you. We discussed that along the way in this thread -- and the recommendation is that WMV11 should be the codec of choice. Unfortunately it is buried somewhere in this very long thread. I'll add it as a recommendation on the first post.

[Capsbackup]

..but the original plays fine on the same kit, and I tend to use TMT3 to check all of the settings to see what's 'on' and what's 'off'. TMT3 on a pc plays the ripped original fine but loses the secondary audio output on the bd-25 version.

I don't own TMT3, so I cannot comment there, but if you try to change the audio setup on your S550 to "mixed", I think the secondary audio will now be heard.
I just tested Transformers, which has True HD for the main audio track, and DD Plus for the secondary track. Unless I change my Sony BDP-BX1's audio selector to mixed from direct, I do not hear the secondary audio either. This is true for the original and the BD-RB backup.
This is certainly an inconvenience, a shortcoming on behalf of the Blu-Ray Mfg's and Blu-Ray authoring company's, to have to change a setup for the BD player to be able to enjoy a feature on the disc. ( I believe anyway :rolleyes: )

[baudi]

We discussed that along the way in this thread -- and the recommendation is that WMV11 should be the codec of choice. Unfortunately it is buried somewhere in this very long thread. I'll add it as a recommendation on the first post.

+1

Thanks master.

[drmih]

I don't own TMT3, so I cannot comment there, but if you try to change the audio setup on your S550 to "mixed", I think the secondary audio will now be heard.
I just tested Transformers, which has True HD for the main audio track, and DD Plus for the secondary track. Unless I change my Sony BDP-BX1's audio selector to mixed from direct, I do not hear the secondary audio either. This is true for the original and the BD-RB backup.
This is certainly an inconvenience, a shortcoming on behalf of the Blu-Ray Mfg's and Blu-Ray authoring company's, to have to change a setup for the BD player to be able to enjoy a feature on the disc. ( I believe anyway :rolleyes: )

You're quite right that does work on the Sony and therefore it'll do but I do think that as the original ripped version works on a pc with TMT3 and the bd-25 doesn't that something is slightly wrong.

[Furiousflea]

You're quite right that does work on the Sony and therefore it'll do but I do think that as the original ripped version works on a pc with TMT3 and the bd-25 doesn't that something is slightly wrong.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm only saying it to be sure that you're reporting a genuine bug

My suspicion is that you have downloaded the "original" and and mounted that as an ISO on your hard drive and run it on TMT3 and it works with the PiP audio intact (as it should). However you have only tried the ISO on your standalone after running it through BDRB and burning to BD25 and playing that on your standalone...Thereby experiencing the missing audio that happens on the Sony bluray players unless you have the audio output set to "Mix" in the setup menu.

Thus, jumping to the conclusion that the original wouldn't do this because it doesn't with TMT3 having never actually tested the original ISO with the Sony standalone since you don't have a BD50 disc.

Sorry dude for assuming this, but it's defo a likely scenario for some people ain't making a judgment on morals or anything here.

[GaPony]

How does the original Blu-Ray disc act on the SAP. You should be comparing the BD-RB copy to the original disc, not to the ripped file playing on TMT.

[Lif3styl3]

Hi,

tried reencoding DER_VORLESER, but i'am getting the message reencoding failed every time i tried it.

-----------------------
[10:56:54] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: DER_VORLESER
- Input BD size: 27,68 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:14.688]
- Target BD size: 21,92 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
[10:56:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:56:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:07:02] Reencoding: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[11:10:19] - Failed video encode, aborted


[Status]
LABEL=DER_VORLESER
VERSION=v0.28.03 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29724641280
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29724641280
TARGET_SIZE=23540531200
REDUCTION=.791953415963982
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
[00000]
AUDIO=000
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=23540531200
RATE=23450


I'am using windows 7 as Operating System. It's the real Version which is available at MSDNAA since last week. So it's an original licended version and no beta or rc.

Other movies worked fine,....

Any ideas ?

[DK]

Same title, different settings, no problems

-----------------------
[22:51:50] BD Rebuilder v0.27.01 (beta)
- Source: DER_VORLESER
- Input BD size: 29,62 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:04:14.697]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[22:51:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:51:52] Reencoding: VID_00005 (1 of 1)
[12:13:01]PHASE ONE complete
[12:13:01]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:13:01] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:22:02] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[12:22:02]JOB: DER_VORLESER finished.


[Status]
LABEL=DER_VORLESER
VERSION=v0.27.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=31802757120
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=31802757120
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.260802424415711
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
COMPLETED=1
[00005]
AUDIO=1100
PGS=1
M2TS_TARGET=8294236160
RATE=7240
NSIZE=7093045248
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[jdobbs]

Hi,

tried reencoding DER_VORLESER, but i'am getting the message reencoding failed every time i tried it.







I'am using windows 7 as Operating System. It's the real Version which is available at MSDNAA since last week. So it's an original licended version and no beta or rc.

Other movies worked fine,....

Any ideas ? BD-RB does not currently support Windows 7 (which isn't scheduled to be released until October 22nd). It has been reported to work, but that O/S still has bugs that are being worked.

BTW... if it were the "real" verstion and not a beta or rc, Microsoft would have it on the shelves already. They don't keep a completed product in their development shop for two months awaiting release... more typically they release it before its ready and clean it up afterward. JMHO

[Lif3styl3]

Hi Jdobbs,

i think you arent't informed correctly. Microsoft has launched a community for universitys a few years ago. There are all microsoft products available for free with licence keys which are downloaded directly via microsoft servers.

The public production for windows 7 and win 2008 r2 was started 3 weeks ago, and since last week microsoft has published the final version for students in their msdnaa community.

Thats the link to our university:
Our MSdnAA (http://msdn40.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=lah_wirtsch)

Ok,...
Then i will try reencoding this movie on my laptop using win xp.

[Furiousflea]

BD-RB does not currently support Windows 7 (which isn't scheduled to be released until October 22nd). It has been reported to work, but that O/S still has bugs that are being worked.

BTW... if it were the "real" verstion and not a beta or rc, Microsoft would have it on the shelves already. They don't keep a completed product in their development shop for two months awaiting release... more typically they release it before its ready and clean it up afterward. JMHO

It is the RTM version been available for the past couple of weeks. Similar to the cracked Vista release where a bios emulator is used to maintain activation with an OEM volume license key from that bios manufacturer. Ummm anyways :)

[jdobbs]

Hi Jdobbs,

i think you arent't informed correctly. Microsoft has launched a community for universitys a few years ago. There are all microsoft products available for free with licence keys which are downloaded directly via microsoft servers.

The public production for windows 7 and win 2008 r2 was started 3 weeks ago, and since last week microsoft has published the final version for students in their msdnaa community.

Thats the link to your university:
Our MSdnAA (http://msdn40.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=lah_wirtsch)

Ok,...
Then i will try reencoding this movie on my laptop using win xp. Just for the record. It is Microsoft's job to make sure that their Operating System remains compatible with the standards they themselves developed -- not the other way around. If there is an issue with software running on Windows 7 -- they should fix Windows 7, not expect 100,000 software developers to adapt to their poor planning and configuration control. Again JMHO.

The release date I quoted is directly from the Microsoft 7 site. If they're wrong then... well I guess that wouldn't surprise me either.

Frankly I'm tired of having to clean up their mess every two years or so.

[Furiousflea]

Hi Jdobbs,

i think you arent't informed correctly. Microsoft has launched a community for universitys a few years ago. There are all microsoft products available for free with licence keys which are downloaded directly via microsoft servers.

The public production for windows 7 and win 2008 r2 was started 3 weeks ago, and since last week microsoft has published the final version for students in their msdnaa community.

Thats the link to our university:
Our MSdnAA (http://msdn40.e-academy.com/elms/Storefront/Storefront.aspx?campus=lah_wirtsch)

Ok,...
Then i will try reencoding this movie on my laptop using win xp.

You will have problems encoding VC1 material in Windows 7 unless you do some registry editing? Is that m2ts that is failing encoded in VC1? Were the other successful discs encoded in VC1? I'm using an evaluation RTM version of Windows 7 and have done a good 10-15 discs with no problem after setting the registry correctly.

[jdobbs]

You will have problems encoding VC1 material in Windows 7 unless you do some registry editing? Is that m2ts that is failing encoded in VC1? Were the other successful discs encoded in VC1? I'm using an evaluation RTM version of Windows 7 and have done a good 10-15 discs with no problem after setting the registry correctly. I guess I'm going to have to make BD-RB look at those registry settings and change them when is sees Windows 7 so their Operating System remains consistent with it's previous version. Otherwise I'll keep getting bug reports for Microsoft's FU. I was kinda' hoping they'd correct that when they get to a final release.

If I sound pissed at MS its because I am. I got an automatic Windows Update for Vista yesterday that screwed my system up, rearranged my desktop, and reset my video to the wrong resolution. So I won't be saying anything nice about them for a while. Buncha' Dicks. :)

[Lif3styl3]

hi,

you 're right its my first disc in vc1 since i'am using windows 7

which value has to be changed ??

[Lif3styl3]

jdobbs, you are right about the release date.
Since Windows Vista Microsoft do a pre Release for all msdnaa users after the final version started to be produced.

And your opinion about microsofts behaviour, regarding ignoring there own standards is also right.

I'am programmer too.

by the way for me the problem regarding hd tracks are reencoded to dolby digital tracks isn't solved.
In my case bd rebuilder has got the hd soundfiles in his working directory, but did't use them.

So i have got the oppertunity to change this by myself, but it wouldn't be nicer bd-rebuilder would do the job for me.
I've got this problem since winxp in all of your versions which supported keep hd audio.

[jdobbs]

hi,

you 're right its my first disc in vc1 since i'am using windows 7

which value has to be changed ??I think it's in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924). But I don't have Windows 7, so I can't really say what works and what doesn't.

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, you are right about the release date.
Since Windows Vista Microsoft do a pre Release for all msdnaa users after the final version started to be produced.

And your opinion about microsofts behaviour, regarding ignoring there own standards is also right.

I'am programmer too.

by the way for me the problem regarding hd tracks are reencoded to dolby digital tracks isn't solved.
In my case bd rebuilder has got the hd soundfiles in his working directory, but did't use them.

So i have got the oppertunity to change this by myself, but it wouldn't be nicer bd-rebuilder would do the job for me.
I've got this problem since winxp in all of your versions which supported keep hd audio. I don't think I understand. You are selecting to keep HD but it is still being reencoded to AC3? If so, please post your BDREBUILDER.INI file so I can see your settings.

[Lif3styl3]

I think it's in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146924). But I don't have Windows 7, so I can't really say what works and what doesn't.


i have found this thread by myself. Nevertheless thanks.
I give it a try.

[Lif3styl3]

I don't think I understand. You are selecting to keep HD but it is still being reencoded to AC3? If so, please post your BDREBUILDER.INI file so I can see your settings.

here's my ini file

[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=22450
TARGET_SIZE=22450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DOCUMENTS\DVDFAB\ISO\DER_VORLESER\
WORKING_PATH=C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\

Using the same configuration for every BluRay.
The target_size is reduced by 1Gb, because the hd audio doesn't fit, wehen bd rebuilder has switched to dolby digital.

The Result of ever bd rb disc is, that my hd data is lost, but hd data is still availabe in the workingfile, which i'am using to create a blu ray with hd audio.

After reencoding of DER_VORLESER i could post the newest results.

[Lif3styl3]

ok,...

after changing the registry and editing the vc1 encoder the reencoding of the vorleser is still running.
So it seems to be working.

[Furiousflea]

For anyone still having problems with Windows 7 VC1 encoding...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1283290#post1283290

Do that and it will work, follow the link in his step by step guide. It's pretty simple really. I've got everything working same as Vista by doing that and then even getting interlaced hybrid VC1 working by having TMT2 and the VC1 Tweaker installed...

It's not complicated but might take a few times to get it working, for me I wasn't sure which version of the tweaker to install. Also note that TMT2 itself doesn't actually work in Windows 7 but the decoding engine does work. (which is used by BDRB once you have set it to use the TMT2 decoding for VC1 for those interested)

[Sharc]

@jdobbs
From the discussion going on here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148826), I wonder if DB-RB should set --level 4.0 for best blu-ray compliance, because x.264 doesn't use slices.
Secondly, is --nal-hrd set by tsmuxer?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs
From the discussion going on here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148826), I wonder if DB-RB should set --level 4.0 for best blu-ray compliance, because x.264 doesn't use slices.
Secondly, is --nal-hrd set by tsmuxer? I'll check out the link, but I've been involved in similar discussions before. Frankly I think its much ado about nothing. If you set to 4.0 you're also limiting other parts of the encode (like bitrate). Level 4.1 is what Blu-ray intended, but 4.0 works. I may set it if I ever hear of problems that appear to be related.

nal-hrd is set by TSMUXER, so you don't have to worry about it in X264. If/when I finish my own muxer module it will do it as well.

[leChameleon]

Furiousflea and jdobbs, Are either of you running a Intel i7 940 on a x58 architecture? Or is anyone else here running this architecture?

[Capsbackup]

Furiousflea and jdobbs, Are either of you running a Intel i7 940 on a x58 architecture? Or is anyone else here running this architecture?

I7 920, 2.67GHz, x58, Asus P6T Deluxe, 3 GB triple channel memory(1333), 1000watt PSU, XP Pro SP3.
Very pleased, no stability issues. Fast.

[Adbear]

I've had no issues on 3 systems running 920's with 6GB ram and Vista 64, my issues have only been on Dual Xeon i7 systems

[Lif3styl3]

Hi Jdobbs, i've got the same Problem with der_voleser. Every track was reencoded to Dolby Digital, even the normal DTS tracks.

Heres the mux_movie_only.meta where you will see the reencodinh to AC3:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --custom-chapters=00:00:00.000;00:06:52.912;00:16:16.308;00:22:53.455;00:27:38.656;00:37:13.689;00:46:02.468;01:04:15.393;01:09:16.443;01:18:17.359;01:25:33.169;01:34:09.644;01:41:52.731;01:53:34.557;02:04:14.447 --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\VID_00005.AVS.MKV", fps=23.976, track=1, insertSEI, contSPS
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\AUD_00005_4352.AC3", lang=deu
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\AUD_00005_4354.AC3", lang=deu
A_AC3, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\AUD_00005_4355.AC3", lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "C:\USERS\LIFESTYLE\DESKTOP\DER_VORLESER\WORKFILES\00005.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,lang=deu

[Category 5]

The latest version from the first page is giving me a "expired - try newer version" message. PC date and time are correct and there is no newer version so what gives?

[Furiousflea]

Furiousflea and jdobbs, Are either of you running a Intel i7 940 on a x58 architecture? Or is anyone else here running this architecture?

Well I got a 920\x58 based motherboard at 4.1Ghz. All i7 chips are the same basically.

[jdobbs]

The latest version from the first page is giving me a "expired - try newer version" message. PC date and time are correct and there is no newer version so what gives? The one on the first page doesn't expire for over a a month from now... and it's running right now on my system. I think you're mistaken. Are you sure you're pointing to that version?

If the file has been modified/hacked in any way it might also cause that message. I'd suggest you do a virus scan on your system and then download again.

[GaPony]

His shortcut is probably aimed at an older version. I've done that several times. :)