Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[Stingrey]

I wanted to ask if DXVA Support with MPC-HC is possible with "Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family".
DXVA Checker from here (http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html#DXVAChecker) lists a lot of supported modes,
but with MPC-HC I can't get DXVA support running.

On my PC with an Ati HD4850 everything runs perfect.

[Px]

but with MPC-HC I can't get DXVA support running.
Look on previous pages - Intel uses non-standard gud for acceleration, and don't want to release their specs, so - no support for Intel videochips

[Stingrey]

I read the preveous pages and used the search function, but mostly I found stuff about IGP's in normal mainbourds.
I thought maybe in the mobile area it would be different, but thanks for your answer.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 879 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/378/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 879 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/379/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Fixed the "display stats" menu option. It does not depend on the OSD, but only works with VMR-9 renderless and EVR custom; Adjusted the Direct3D warning message. It now mentions that fullscreen can be exited with Ctrl+C; Updated : subtitle option dialog box for Hungarian translation; Italian resources updated; translated new "TODO" lines.

[CiTay]

I have a problem since installing Catalyst 8.11 for Vista x64 today. Graphics card Radeon HD 4670. Playing a HDTV x264 video (MPEG4 Video H264 1280x720 25.00fps) with MPC HC, EVR custom, Internal decoder or CoreAVC (doesn't matter), i get a black area where the video is supposed to be. Meaning, the window resizes to the expected size, but it's black. Audio plays fine. When i set it to EVR, i see video too, but i want to use EVR custom, and it worked fine yesterday with Catalyst 8.10. What happened?

P.S. The 8.11 install required no reboot, but when i first try to play the video afterwards, Vista said "MPC doesn't work anymore, looking for solutions". After the reboot, i have this black screen problem.


edit: After toying with the deinterlacing mode in CCC, i get this Vista message again that mplayerc.exe doesn't work anymore! But only with H264 files, XviD etc. plays fine.

These problems are all new, since Catalyst 8.11. New MPC HC from SVN doesn't change anything.


edit #2: Vista tells me that the problem with mplayerc.exe came from "atiumdva.dll".


edit #3: Went back to Catalyst 8.10 and all problems are gone. It seems they packed a broken "atiumdva.dll" with Cat 8.11 x64. Can anyone reproduce this?

[ACrowley]

Pan&Scan still doesnt work for me! When i enable Pan&Scan i get a black Picture only!

[Klaus_1250]

agp version?
I can't get 8.10 to install for my 3650..

Neither http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31625 or http://www.donotargue.com/page.php?id=552 install??? (Never mind, 8.11 is out, though it will take a while for both sources to be updated).

Feature Request:
Some anime is available with dubbed English and original Japanese, with the English set as standard (grrr). Would be nice if MPC-HC had an settings tab where you can set preferences for Languages and Subtitels, similar (but more advanced) to the settings now available for DVD.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 879 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/378/1/)Sadly, even this version of MPC HC is still unable to correctly display MPEG-4 AVC video encoded with aspect ratio signalling!

How is it that the original versions of MPC can correctly display MPEG-4 AVC video encoded with aspect ratio signalling and not MPC HC?

[Mercury_22]

I have a problem since installing Catalyst 8.11 for Vista x64 today. Graphics card Radeon HD 4670. Playing a HDTV x264 video (MPEG4 Video H264 1280x720 25.00fps) with MPC HC, EVR custom, Internal decoder or CoreAVC (doesn't matter), i get a black area where the video is supposed to be. Meaning, the window resizes to the expected size, but it's black. Audio plays fine. When i set it to EVR, i see video too, but i want to use EVR custom, and it worked fine yesterday with Catalyst 8.10. What happened?

P.S. The 8.11 install required no reboot, but when i first try to play the video afterwards, Vista said "MPC doesn't work anymore, looking for solutions". After the reboot, i have this black screen problem.


edit: After toying with the deinterlacing mode in CCC, i get this Vista message again that mplayerc.exe doesn't work anymore! But only with H264 files, XviD etc. plays fine.

These problems are all new, since Catalyst 8.11. New MPC HC from SVN doesn't change anything.


edit #2: Vista tells me that the problem with mplayerc.exe came from "atiumdva.dll".


edit #3: Went back to Catalyst 8.10 and all problems are gone. It seems they packed a broken "atiumdva.dll" with Cat 8.11 x64. Can anyone reproduce this?

With EVR custom & VC-1 & Cat 8.11 MPC-HC it's crashing with this message

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: mplayerc.exe
Application Version: 1.1.879.0
Application Timestamp: 491b5465
Fault Module Name: atiumdva.dll
Fault Module Version: 7.14.10.205
Fault Module Timestamp: 4907bf59
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00114c3f
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160

With any other render or Cat 8.10 everything it's OK ! :helpful:

[CiTay]

Thanks for reproducing it, Mercury_22!

So something seems wrong with 8.11's atiumdva.dll...


Can you maybe report this to ATI/AMD too: http://ati.supportcenteronline.com/ics/survey/survey.asp?deptID=894&surveyID=486&type=web

I already did, but it may go under, who knows...

[STaRGaZeR]

Cats 8.11 do broke hardware deinterlacing too. Instant crash no matter what decoder you use, MPC, Cyberlink...

[Snowknight26]

Woo, green screen with DXVA things using 8.11. Oh and deinterlacing is broken too.

[cweb]

I noticed that when I hibernate my pc, and then I restore it, media player classic home cinema always crashes...

[Casimir666]

Sadly, even this version of MPC HC is still unable to correctly display MPEG-4 AVC video encoded with aspect ratio signalling!

How is it that the original versions of MPC can correctly display MPEG-4 AVC video encoded with aspect ratio signalling and not MPC HC?

Have you sample for that?

[hwti]

Thanks for reproducing it, Mercury_22!

So something seems wrong with 8.11's atiumdva.dll...


Can you maybe report this to ATI/AMD too: http://ati.supportcenteronline.com/ics/survey/survey.asp?deptID=894&surveyID=486&type=web

I already did, but it may go under, who knows...

It has nothing to do with Catalyst driver.
The problems happens with 8.10 hotfix2 too (same atiumdva.dll version), and I remember getting the same black screen/crashes with older versions.

I reported the problem to Casimir666 Monday, it comes from a wrong D3D9 texture format in EVR Custom presenter.

[CiTay]

It has nothing to do with Catalyst driver.
The problems happens with 8.10 hotfix2 too (same atiumdva.dll version), and I remember getting the same black screen/crashes with older versions.

I reported the problem to Casimir666 Monday, it comes from a wrong D3D9 texture format in EVR Custom presenter.

But how come that before this, i only had a couple crashes, but with Cat 8.11 i have problems all the time? Something must have changed in that DLL to trigger that.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Have you sample for that?Here you go: -

http://rapidshare.de/files/40903339/SMD_Test_Samples.7z.html


Cheers

[nae1986]

I am using version SVN 879 and using the internal Ogg/Vorbis splitters, I can't play an OGG audio file.

Here is a sample file:
http://www.usaupload.net/d/9m9o7h22t07

[Casimir666]

It has nothing to do with Catalyst driver.
The problems happens with 8.10 hotfix2 too (same atiumdva.dll version), and I remember getting the same black screen/crashes with older versions.

I reported the problem to Casimir666 Monday, it comes from a wrong D3D9 texture format in EVR Custom presenter.

Here you go: -

http://rapidshare.de/files/40903339/SMD_Test_Samples.7z.html


Cheers

Both problems should be fixed with this build :

http://www.zshare.net/download/512930974865f882/

[nae1986]

I am using version SVN 879 and using the internal Ogg/Vorbis splitters, I can't play an OGG audio file.

Here is a sample file:
http://www.usaupload.net/d/9m9o7h22t07

I tried the same file with Media Player Classic - patched build (https://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli2/) and it worked.

Note: I don't have any DirectShow filters enabled so I am using the players' internal ones.

[clsid]

That ogg file indeed does not play with MPC-HC's internal splitter. Casimir666 has made some changes to it, but they are unfinished.

I recommend using Haali Media Splitter for .ogg files.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Both problems should be fixed with this build :

http://www.zshare.net/download/512930974865f882/That was fast.... I'm happy to confirm the issue is indeed fixed now :)

What was the problem?

[STaRGaZeR]

HW deinterlacing is also fixed. Great work.

[Casimir666]

I tried the same file with Media Player Classic - patched build (https://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli2/) and it worked.

Note: I don't have any DirectShow filters enabled so I am using the players' internal ones.

Ok fixed

[Casimir666]

That was fast.... I'm happy to confirm the issue is indeed fixed now :)

What was the problem?
Decoder now rely on "Extended SAR" if present in bitstream, and not on A/R detected by parser.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Decoder now rely on "Extended SAR" if present in bitstream, and not on A/R detected by parser.Thanks for the info...

While I'm thinking about it. A few days ago Kurtnoise13 tweaked Gabest's MP4 parser (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1211578#post1211578) to support AC3 audio streams placed within the .MP4 container. Have you considered providing this option too?


Cheers

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 889 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/388/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 889 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/387/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

FIX : ffmpeg H.264 decoding; FIXED : broken playback with some Ogg files; FIXED : Crash/black screen with DXVA decoder with some ATI cards. Untranslated P&S string added; Removed file association option for image files; The FLV splitter now supports FLV files that contain H.264 video and AAC audio; Updated Czech translation; Update Traditional Chinese translation; Updated Slovak translation; Updated Turkish translation.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

MPC-HC SVN 889 crashes if you enable the internal FFMPEG H.264 decoder(not the DXVA one) and play some MKVs with H.264. Disabling internal FFMPEG H.264 decoder and using external ffdshow decoder, it doesn't crash.

Application exception occurred:
App: C:\Temp\mplayerc.exe (pid=2484)
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6579/crashsf1.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crashsf1.png)

Crash happened on both Intel Core 2 Duo and AMD CPUs. I'm using XP SP3, DirectX Nov 2008 runtime, Nvidia 178.24 drivers.

Confirm :o

[Aleksoid1978]

MPC-HC SVN 889 crashes if you enable the internal FFMPEG H.264 decoder(not the DXVA one) and play some MKVs with H.264. Disabling internal FFMPEG H.264 decoder and using external ffdshow decoder, it doesn't crash.

Application exception occurred:
App: C:\Temp\mplayerc.exe (pid=2484)
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6579/crashsf1.th.png (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crashsf1.png)

Crash happened on both Intel Core 2 Duo and AMD CPUs. I'm using XP SP3, DirectX Nov 2008 runtime, Nvidia 178.24 drivers.

Yes, me too.

[draggoon01]

thanks for fix

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 890 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/388/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 890 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/387/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

FIX : remove rev.889 ffmpeg decoding change, crash on h264 stream.

[Moitah]

@draggoon01: I'll look into it tomorrow.

[Snowknight26]

r890 definitely fixed the deinterlacing crash but the green screen with DXVA remains. Catalyst 8.11. :\

[nae1986]

I have 2 requests regarding the file associations:

1) I don't think anyone uses a media player for viewing images, so the "Image files" association could be removed (MPC patched already implemented that).

2) MPC-HC currently has switches to register audio and video files ("/regaud" and "/regvid") and to unregister all ("/unregall"). It would be good to have a switch ("/regall") for registering all types (and autoplay items), similar in functionality to the "All" button from "Formats".

[STaRGaZeR]

r890 definitely fixed the deinterlacing crash but the green screen with DXVA remains. Catalyst 8.11. :\

You must restart your PC. I had the same issue.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 891 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/390/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 891 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/389/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg

[ikarad]

There is a bug with MPC home cinema under VISTA and subtitles.
I use mpc home cinema + vobusb (2.38) to see subtitles.
Under XP there isn't delay between video and subtitles but under vista there is nearly two seconds.

I notice that when i launch .vob files (or .ifo file which miss pub) instead of using "launch dvd function" there isn't delay between video and subtitles under vista but when I use "launch dvd function" under vista there is a delay of two seconds and consequently subtitles are delayed.

I try all version of mpc home cinema but there is the same problem.

I would like to know if this bug is known and if this bug will be corrected in a new version of mpc home cinema.

I try with two différent PC under vista and there is the same problem.

french version:
"Il y a un bug de MPC home cinema sous vista.
j'utilise mpc home cinema (1.604) et vobsub (2.38 vsfilter).

J'ai remarqué que quand on utilise la fonction "lancer dvd" dans mpc home cinema sous vista il y a un décalage de 2 secondes environ entre l'image et les sous titres (l'image est en retard de 2 secondes) alors que sous xp avec cette même fonction il n'y a pas de décalage.

Par contre sous vista si on lance le dvd avec les .vob ou le .ifo qui saute les pubs du début le décalage n'apparait plus. Sous xp par contre il n'y aucun problème quelque soit la méthode utilisée pour regarder le dvd.

j'ai essayé avec différentes versions de mpc home cinema et c'est le même problème.

J'ai aussi essayé avec d'autres dvds (ce sont des dvd d'anime jap et américain) et il y a toujours le même décalage sous vista et aucun décalage sous xp.

J'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un l'a déjà remarqué et si c'est possible que ce problème soit corrigé dans une future version

PS: j'ai essayé sur 2 pcs avec vista (pour voir si ça provenait pas de mon pc) et c'est le même problème"

I up this message

[73ChargerFan]

I've got MPC working with almost every file, just by double clicking on the file icon. The "Direct3d Fullscreen" option does get rid of tearing, but then I can't easily exit the program afterwards.

Request:

Please add the option "Exit Program After Playback" (I know it is in the menu.)

Reason:
1. With "Direct3D Fullscreen" the screen goes black after the video is over
2. Pop-up menus don't work in this mode, so I can't exit the program using the mouse
3. Options->Player->"Exit fullscreen at the end of playback" does not work in this mode
4. Hitting CTL-C or ALT-F4 is a hassle. I can't find my wireless keyboard; I can't explain it to my wife or kids; it isn't needed for my HTPC, except as a giant remote-control for only one use and only one program.

My Attempts:
It is available as a command line option, and I added it to the file associations in explorer (for each and every supported file type). But then I installed a newer version of MPC-HC, and they were (my fault) reset to defaults.

BTW, did I mention that the player works really great? I only had to install Haali splitter, and everything else is internal.

:thanks:

[airwin]

I would like to summarize my experience with my Catalyst and the broken DXVA decoding:

This issue was discovered with Catalist 8.9, MPC-HC worked just fine with 8.8.

With the new drivers, including 8.11 I get DXVA only by using either overlay mixer or windowed VMR7. All other DirectShow devices work without DXVA (also the video contrast is much better with these two devices).

Even with the above settings I can only play small videos (by downloading the MP4 version of YouTube video, for example). With 720p and 1080p videos I get:

With overlay mixer everything seem okay only the playback doesn't begin. The overlay is black, I can seek forth and back but the timer remains frozen and the picture blank.

With windowed VMR7 MPC-HC simply crashes.

And there is an other issue: some (YouTube) videos show a green, 8-pixel wide line at the bottom, some others show this as a bar at the right of the video.

Could it be a buffer corruption?

Edit: MPC-HC build 891, Radeon 3850, WinXP 32-bit

[CiTay]

All other DirectShow devices work without DXVA (also the video contrast is much better with these two devices).

That is is a known "handicap" of ATI cards, they use the MS-recommended, but wrong colorspace conversion. To fix this, there's two methods:


XP: Regedit.exe, add string "UseBT601CSC"="1" under

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{GUID}\0000]

(search for the correct GUID number which has the 0000 "subfolder").


Vista: Regedit.exe, add string "UseBT601CSC"="1" under

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{GUID}\0000\UMD\DXVA]

(search for the correct GUID number which has the 0000 "subfolder").


You should immediately get the correct levels again. What it does is use the ITU-R BT.601 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._601) colorspace conversion instead of the wrong MS-recommended CSC. Then you don't need none of these "TV -> PC" workarounds or anything.

[Shinigami-Sama]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 891 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/390/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 891 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/389/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg

doesn't let me disable dxva
even changing the registry key doesn't override its

[Fragbert]

I would like to summarize my experience with my Catalyst and the broken DXVA decoding:

This issue was discovered with Catalist 8.9, MPC-HC worked just fine with 8.8.

With the new drivers, including 8.11 I get DXVA only by using either overlay mixer or windowed VMR7. All other DirectShow devices work without DXVA (also the video contrast is much better with these two devices).

Even with the above settings I can only play small videos (by downloading the MP4 version of YouTube video, for example). With 720p and 1080p videos I get:

With overlay mixer everything seem okay only the playback doesn't begin. The overlay is black, I can seek forth and back but the timer remains frozen and the picture blank.

With windowed VMR7 MPC-HC simply crashes.

And there is an other issue: some (YouTube) videos show a green, 8-pixel wide line at the bottom, some others show this as a bar at the right of the video.

Could it be a buffer corruption?

Edit: MPC-HC build 891

I'm in a similar situation as you, DXVA has never seemed to work reliably on my Radeon 3870, E8400 rig running 32bit XP SP3. Throughout each new build (where I always enable all internal filters/formats) it's always a crapshoot even with properly encoded L4.1 .mkv's in 720p or 1080p and an endless rotation of the different outputs (Overlay, VMR7, VMR9, VMR7 Renderless, VMR9 Renderless) in which one output works on x file, but not on y. And, if I am fortunate enough to have an output setting enable DXVA for a particular file, more often then not I get choppy video where it is not smooth at all. I resort to disabling the DXVA filters and I at least get working video. VMR9 + VMR9 Renderless in particular are very troublesome for me with DXVA enabled, which sucks because I need subtitles on occasion as well as the shader for 0-255 conversion.

Does anybody have flawless DXVA playback on a similar system? And if you do, can you link to a sample file where you confirmed DXVA working?

Radeon 3870, Catalyst v8.11
E8400 + 2GB DDR3
XP SP3 (32bit)
Latest DirectX (november) + all ms updates

[Moitah]

On certain flv files, mpc-hc cannot seek. You can start playing file but cannot skip to any other part on seek bar and total time is not calculated.
I fixed this and sent the code to clsid.

[DrNein]

I add the key CiTay mentions "UseBT601CSC" to expand HD levels to match those of SD. I use "VMR7 Windowed" output (which can utilize hardware overlay) and DXVA is always possible (assuming compliant files). At worst, at some times in the past, with certain drivers and cards, it was necessary to add keys: "VForceUVDH264" and "VForceUVDVC1"

"VMR9 Windowed" has never been capable of DXVA as far as I know. I do understand the need for "VMR9 Renderless" since it alone is capable of DXVA with subtitles in MPC-HC but it does seem more problematic.

An alternative for DXVA with subtitles is PowerDVD playing a Blu-ray (more recent versions require disc mode but an image can be made and mounted). tsMuxeR can create the BD structure with imported SRT subtiles.

Testing with hobbyist made files (commonly x264 MKV) is sure to be frustrating as there is no assurance they are compliant. So, it is better to test with professional sources such as BD, broadcast captures, or trailers. Apple is good for that even if the quality is relatively poor (limited to 10Mbps).

QuickTime Alternative includes the downloader component or else direct links are available at demo-world.eu, along with other HD trailers. AVC MOV files can be played with DXVA decoders (ffmpeg or CyberLink) in MPC-HC by changing the Format (under Options - Player) for QuickTime files from QuickTime to DirectShow. The renderer can further be configured from Playback - Output.

[betaking]

src\filters\reader\udpreader\UDPReader.cpp(53) I FOUND A error
SetRegKeyValue(_T("t関?), 0, _T("Source Filter"), CStringFromGUID(__uuidof(CUDPReader)));

[airwin]

XP: Regedit.exe, add string "UseBT601CSC"="1" under

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{GUID}\0000]

(search for the correct GUID number which has the 0000 "subfolder").


Sorry, this had no effect on my system. Still only overlay mixer and VMR7 (windowed) looks good.

[mikegun]

just discovered that dxva seems to work when I disable
h264 (ffmpeg) from internal filters and choose haali as renderer.
at least a quick test worked, where vmr9 always failed.
but you can't use external subtitles with haali, right ?!

edit: it seems like haali doesn't show subtitles at all ?!

[krbo]

On some mkv's at the bottom of the video the image is distorted:

http://i33.tinypic.com/2ecglg9.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2diismo.jpg

I get this distorsion only when I play the video with mpchc. Is there any way to correct this?

Thank you. :)

I have the same on XP SP3 VMR9 only if:

- video is not MOD 16 (e.g 532 pixels vertically)
- DXVA is working


There is no problem with EVR on Vista !!

[CiTay]

Sorry, this had no effect on my system. Still only overlay mixer and VMR7 (windowed) looks good.

Make sure it's a string, like so: Image4.png (http://freefilehosting.net/show/422hh)

[neoufo51]

The latest build (891) plays this H.264 encoded trailer with horizontal and vertical grey bands on the right and bottom of the screen when using the VMR9 output. Switching to the Haali Renderer helps, but there is still a narrow grey band at the bottom of the screen. The latest Videolan doesn't seem to have any of these issues.

Can somebody confirm this? Here's the direct line to the trailer.

http://www.zshare.net/download/5135772708bd9971/