Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[tetsuo55]

Thanks for the replay but I think it is not a splitter problem. I think it is a decoder problem.

Tests:

Monogram splitter + MPC-HC decoder = mutes after a few seconds.
MPC-HC spliter + Monogram decoder = plays fine from start to end
MPC-HC spliter + MPC-HC decoder = mutes after a few
Monogram splitter + Monogram decoder = plays fine from start to end

BTW Monogram AMR decoder package include a decoder, splitter, muxer and an encoder.
http://blog.monogram.sk/janos/2008/03/16/monogram-amr-pack-1010/

FFDShow can also play the samples from start to end just fine. Of course without any Monogram.i tested with internal splitter and haali splitter, internal decoder and ffsdhow, playback breaks on all of them for me

internal decoder and ffdshow decoder are almost exactly the same (both use libavcodec)

[chros]

On freshly installed Win7 x64, the MPC x86 couldn't accelerate VC1 files on my GF9600GT with EVR Custom presenter... It have been working on WinXP (WMR9) ...
In filters I see: MS Video DMO, and MS Audio DMO, on statistics Mixer: NV12, DXVA: Not available (on WinXP was: iDCT...)

Any thoughts?

There is no MPC Video Decoder in the filters list! (I remember that on WinXP thare was.)

There is the PIN info first section:
-----
Filter : WM ASF Reader - CLSID : {187463A0-5BB7-11D3-ACBE-0080C75E246E}

- Connected to:
CLSID: {94297043-BD82-4DFD-B0DE-8177739C6D20}
Filter: WMVideo Decoder DMO
Pin: in0

- Connection media type:
Video: WVC1 1920x816 23.98fps 8000kbps
----

It seems that the "WM ASF Reader" cannot connect to the built in VC1 DXVA decoder ... (It can connect to the VC1 ffmpeg decoder) ....

[BelowSky]

Well... I don't know how splitters and decoders internally behave (programmatically). You sure know better than me.
But please fix it. Even if that bug don't get reported a lot, it is important.
Just think about the numbers of videos created by Nokia phones for the last 6 to 10 years. all of these videos will have that issue when played on MPC-HC.
Let me emphasize this, only videos created by Nokia encoders (phones, desktop applications, other phone makers who use Nokia OS like Samsung and Sony and others) have this problem if they use AMR which was very typical back then.
I say that after examining more than 60 files.

[tetsuo55]

Well... I don't know how splitters and decoders internally behave (programmatically). You sure know better than me.
But please fix it. Even if that bug don't get reported a lot, it is important.
Just think about the numbers of videos created by Nokia phones for the last 6 to 10 years. all of these videos will have that issue when played on MPC-HC.
Let me emphasize this, only videos created by Nokia encoders (phones, desktop applications, other phone makers who use Nokia OS like Samsung and Sony and others) have this problem if they use AMR which was very typical back then.
I say that after examining more than 60 files.Was it added to the tracker already? if not please add it.

[clsid]

internal decoder and ffdshow decoder are almost exactly the same (both use libavcodec)
ffdshow uses a different AMR library inside libavcodec. So essentially its using a different decoder as MPC.

[BelowSky]

I've just added that AMR bug to the tracker under "MPC_HC_CODECS" ... sorry.
Feel free to modify it.

[Polcius]

Does MPC-HC automatically deinterlace videos?

Is there any difference between WMP11 and MPC-HC's deinterlacer? Wich method does each one use?

Thanks

[clsid]

Neither player deinterlaces video. That is done by the video decoder, renderer, or driver.

[Polcius]

Neither player deinterlaces video. That is done by the video decoder, renderer, or driver.

Mmmm... OK. I use default settings on both. Do WMP and MPC-HC share the same decoders and renderers?

[Snowknight26]

They can, but by default they don't*.

[Polcius]

They can, but by default they don't*.

Ok.

And do you know what deinterlacing methods both use? Or wich one gives a better quality?

[kieranrk]

Ok.

And do you know what deinterlacing methods both use? Or wich one gives a better quality?

Graphics card dependent. DXVA checker should show you which ones your card supports - Pixel Adaptive being the best.

[dleach]

I noticed that MPC will save the last location of a movie played if you have the internal options set appropriately (I had to manually delete a saved location). What would be a great option is to allow saved locations AND a prompt to resume from that location or start from the beginning when you start playing a movie. If there is no previously saved location the player would just start from the beginning without a prompt.

I've integrated using this player with XBMC and see that the default player in XBMC can do this and wanted to figure out how to do this with MPC.

[seabro]

Please Help me!!!

I can't play h264 files over MPC-HC.
I mean, any file or codec that require DXVA, I can't play.. it just wont start.

I have Radeon HD 3685 and last catalyst 9.11 (x64) installed.. on Win 7 (x64) with MPC-HC (x64)... no any codec pack, no ffdshow!

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3872/dxvachecker1.png

what am I doing wrong??
I know that my card support hardware decoding, but how come that it's stop working suddenly!

[Mercury_22]

Please Help me!!!

I can't play h264 files over MPC-HC.
I mean, any file or codec that require DXVA, I can't play.. it just wont start.

I have Radeon HD 3685 and last catalyst 9.11 (x64) installed.. on Win 7 (x64) with MPC-HC (x64)... no any codec pack, no ffdshow!

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3872/dxvachecker1.png

what am I doing wrong??
I know that my card support hardware decoding, but how come that it's stop working suddenly!

Follow this steps then report back :
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/Troubleshooting_guidelines

[littleD]

Back to 9.10. This version may be more reliable.

[snakemanson]

how fix this problem ?

64>To compile qedit.h you must install the DirectX 9 SDK, to obtain the dxtrans.h header.
64>EVRAllocatorPresenter.cpp
64>EditListEditor.cpp
64>DX9AllocatorPresenter.cpp
64>.\DX9AllocatorPresenter.cpp(775) : error C2039: 'TryLock' : is not a member of 'CCritSec'
64> c:\work\mpc-hc.vc9\src\filters\BaseClasses\wxutil.h(18) : see declaration of 'CCritSec'
64>.\DX9AllocatorPresenter.cpp(2175) : error C2039: 'TryLock' : is not a member of 'CCritSec'
64> c:\work\mpc-hc.vc9\src\filters\BaseClasses\wxutil.h(18) : see declaration of 'CCritSec'


BuildLog (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/164996/BuildLog.htm)

[tetsuo55]

hi, you need to install this:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=b66e14b8-8505-4b17-bf80-edb2df5abad4

See here for more information:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/How_to_compile_the_MPC

[snakemanson]

DX SDK Aug09 already installed


by this guide /trunk/Compilation.txt

[tetsuo55]

use the wiki link, the documentation in the source is no longer accurate.

[snakemanson]

use the wiki link, the documentation in the source is no longer accurate.
thx, i add the new paths at the end and solved

64>To compile qedit.h you must install the DirectX 9 SDK, to obtain the dxtrans.h header.

but, i cant fix this error

64>.\DX9AllocatorPresenter.cpp(775) : error C2039: 'TryLock' : is not a member of 'CCritSec'
64> c:\work\mpc-hc.vc9\src\filters\BaseClasses\wxutil.h(18) : see declaration of 'CCritSec'
64>.\DX9AllocatorPresenter.cpp(2175) : error C2039: 'TryLock' : is not a member of 'CCritSec'
64> c:\work\mpc-hc.vc9\src\filters\BaseClasses\wxutil.h(18) : see declaration of 'CCritSec'

[tetsuo55]

ok rewrote parts of the compilation guide, please try to follow each step and see what happens

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/How_to_compile_the_MPC

[Leo100]

All builds, since 1312, consistently crash when opening video, complaining igdumd32.dll. This occurs in such device: Viliv S5, video - Intel GMA 500 (driver dated 14.10.2009 Driver Revision: 5.0.0.2015, version igdumd32.dll 8.14.10.2015), System - Windows 7, DirectX - the latest, in August 2009. Perhaps it has something to do with changes in 1312 Built by:

Quote:
28/10/2009
Fixed: Scanline and refresh rate detection algorithm changed
Fixed: Scanline detection and sync was incorrect on rotated displays
Fixed: D3D device interference from other threads minimized
Added: TryLock added to CCritSec

Discovered that crash in the derivation of EVR / EVR cust., VMR9 (renderless). Do not crash when the rest of the render, but dxva not work.
There is a noticeable tearing at all the options vsync in the ON position. If I disable Alternative VSync playback slows down.

Sorry for the language I used google translation.

[tetsuo55]

All builds, since 1312, consistently crash when opening video, complaining igdumd32.dll. This occurs in such device: Viliv S5, video - Intel GMA 500 (driver dated 14.10.2009 Driver Revision: 5.0.0.2015, version igdumd32.dll 8.14.10.2015), System - Windows 7, DirectX - the latest, in August 2009. Perhaps it has something to do with changes in 1312 Built by:

Quote:
28/10/2009
Fixed: Scanline and refresh rate detection algorithm changed
Fixed: Scanline detection and sync was incorrect on rotated displays
Fixed: D3D device interference from other threads minimized
Added: TryLock added to CCritSec

Discovered that crash in the derivation of EVR / EVR cust., VMR9 (renderless). Do not crash when the rest of the render, but dxva not work.
There is a noticeable tearing at all the options vsync in the ON position. If I disable Alternative VSync playback slows down.

Sorry for the language I used google translation.I think something is wrong with the GMA500 hardware/drivers.

Please report this problem to Intel.

[73ChargerFan]

I'm still getting no DTS core over SPDIF, when playing mkv with DTS-MA track.

Win7 x64 RTM, MPC-HC-32 svn 1373, internal filters only (using Haali mkv doesn't work either.)

DS Audio filter shows buffer going up/down, but yet I hear nothing.

Does this explain why?
Filter : Default DirectSound Device - CLSID : {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}

- Connected to:

CLSID: {18C16B08-6497-420E-AD14-22D21C2CEAB7}
Filter: Audio Switcher
Pin: Out

- Connection media type:

Audio: 0x0092 48000Hz stereo 1536kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 4
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0092
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 192000
nBlockAlign: 4
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 0 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 92 00 02 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ee 02 00 04 00 10 00 ’...€»...î......
0010: 00 00 ..

- Enumerated media type 0:

Audio

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
formattype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 0

tetsuo55: I can't find anyone who verifies this, next step for me is to re-install OS but that is soooo muuuuch work. :(

[Leo100]

I think something is wrong with the GMA500 hardware/drivers.

Please report this problem to Intel.

I think the same way, but I doubt that Intel will draw attention to this problem. And, "Intel does not support this product via email." (from offsite)...
In addition, builds 1311 and earlier are working well. Maybe you can do anything from the player?

[tetsuo55]

I'm still getting no DTS core over SPDIF, when playing mkv with DTS-MA track.

Win7 x64 RTM, MPC-HC-32 svn 1373, internal filters only (using Haali mkv doesn't work either.)

DS Audio filter shows buffer going up/down, but yet I hear nothing.

Does this explain why?
Filter : Default DirectSound Device - CLSID : {79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}

- Connected to:

CLSID: {18C16B08-6497-420E-AD14-22D21C2CEAB7}
Filter: Audio Switcher
Pin: Out

- Connection media type:

Audio: 0x0092 48000Hz stereo 1536kbps

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM {00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_WaveFormatEx {05589F81-C356-11CE-BF01-00AA0055595A}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 4
cbFormat: 18

WAVEFORMATEX:
wFormatTag: 0x0092
nChannels: 2
nSamplesPerSec: 48000
nAvgBytesPerSec: 192000
nBlockAlign: 4
wBitsPerSample: 16
cbSize: 0 (extra bytes)

pbFormat:
0000: 92 00 02 00 80 bb 00 00 00 ee 02 00 04 00 10 00 ’...€»...î......
0010: 00 00 ..

- Enumerated media type 0:

Audio

AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Audio {73647561-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
formattype: TIME_FORMAT_NONE {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
bFixedSizeSamples: 1
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 0

tetsuo55: I can't find anyone who verifies this, next step for me is to re-install OS but that is soooo muuuuch work. :(please contact spec-chum about thisI think the same way, but I doubt that Intel will draw attention to this problem.
In addition, builds 1311 and earlier are working well. Maybe you can do anything from the player?
DXVA is very important for Intel, they will try to fix it.

[73ChargerFan]

I think the same way, but I doubt that Intel will draw attention to this problem.
In addition, builds 1311 and earlier are working well. Maybe you can do anything from the player?
Sounds like a regression in mpc-hc.

[Leo100]

DXVA is very important for Intel, they will try to fix it.
But DXVA works great, I now use MPC-HC build 1311 and MPCVideoDec.ax build 1356 (external), DXVA available.
Sounds like a regression in mpc-hc.
Sorry, I do not propose to fall back, I suggest, if possible, to teach the player to work even on bad drivers from Intel.

[snakemanson]

new error :(

5>------ Rebuild All started: Project: libavcodec_gcc, Configuration: Release Win32 ------
5>Performing Makefile project actions
1>videoctl.cpp
5>Project : error PRJ0002 : Error result -1073741515 returned from 'C:\Windows\SysWow64\cmd.exe'.
5>Build log was saved at "file://c:\work\mpc-hc.vc9\src\filters\transform\mpcvideodec\ffmpeg\BuildLog.htm"
5>libavcodec_gcc - 1 error(s), 0 warning(s)

and new problem this YASM path ( is not recognized as an internal or external command)

my path:
MINGW32 — c:\mingw_msys\msys.450x64v2\mingw\
MSYS — c:\mingw_msys\msys.450x64v2\;c:\mingw_msys\msys.450x64v2\bin\
MINGW64 — c:\mingw_msys\msys.450x64v2\mingw\

----

..\..\..\..\lib;$(MINGW32)lib\gcc\mingw32\4.4.1;$(MINGW32)lib

this is correct ?

[ashlar42]

Any of the developers interested in lending a hand in incorporating parts of the MPC-HC tech into XBMC? Check here:

http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=61355 (support thread)

and here: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=59610 (development thread)

It would be great to see the greatest front-end (IMO) with the best media playing technology (again, IMO).

[DeepBeepMeep]

Has anyone else noticed that the Mplayer Classic matroska splitter demux all the audio streams/tracks at the same time and doesn't let the user choose the audio track.

For instance if one wants to play a mkv file that contains an English track and an Italian track two audio decoders will be created in the same graph. This is not only a waste in CPU but this cause as well some stutter.

Am I doing something wrong or is this really a problem with the demuxer? If it is really a bug, thanks in advance for fixing it as this splitter is the onlu splitter on the market that is capable (for the moment) to demux a TrueHD contained in a mkv file.

[clsid]

@DeepBeepMeep
It is not a bug, it is more of a design choice that was made many years ago. None of the internal splitters have a stream switcher (like Haali does). That is because MPC contains a separate audio stream switcher. Files with multiple video tracks were pretty much non-existent back then.

Changing this would mean a whole lot of work. So I don't see it happening anytime soon. Currently there are far more important things to improve/fix in MPC.

[clsid]

I think something is wrong with the GMA500 hardware/drivers.

Please report this problem to Intel.
Given the fact that several people have reported a variety of problems with 1312 wouldn't it be a good idea to (partially) revert this revision?
Hoping Intel will fix this crash (assuming it is their fault) is just being stubborn. Certainly when we know of a solution/workaround.
Development isn't always a straight line. Sometimes you need to go back a try again.

[tetsuo55]

Given the fact that several people have reported a variety of problems with 1312 wouldn't it be a good idea to (partially) revert this revision?
Hoping Intel will fix this crash (assuming it is their fault) is just being stubborn. Certainly when we know of a solution/workaround.
Development isn't always a straight line. Sometimes you need to go back a try again.this is the first report of it every working on GMA500 (other reports i got are of it never ever working)

so that does indeed point the finger back at MPC-HC.

we are currently trying to get usefull debug logging into MPC-HC.
There is no chance this kind of stuff is going to get fixed without that.
fixing one thing breaks another.

[sneaker_ger]

I have a problem with the "file"->"close" function. While indeed the file is closed and I can rename/move it the folder containing the file can not be modified until I exit MPC-HC.

[BatKnight]

I've noticed that when playing a full Bluray disc using MPC's internal TS splitter the subtitles (presentation graphics, I think) aren't recognized. It shows: no subtitles.
But when using Haali Media Splitter, it shows the subtitles.

Is support for presentation graphics subtitles in the to-do list of MPC-HC, or am I missing something?

Auto-answer: I was missing something, because now it show the subtitles... Sorry for this post.

2nd EDIT: Looks like some m2ts shows with internal filter but others don't, so my first statement is right

3rd EDIT: After all, the subtitles show, but they take long seconds before they do, and I was misleaded into believe they werent' showing

Thanks
Bat

[Spec-Chum]

The Goto command (Ctrl + G) seems to be broken in the x64 builds.

When I enter any time it gives the error: Error parsing entered time!

When I just edit the preset values it works. But as soon as I have used my own numbers even once it stops working.

It won't even work for the preset values from that point on.


Goto works just fine in the 32bit builds.


My system:
Windows 7 x64
8800GT

(the bug report section on sourceforge seems to have been closed? so I report it here)


Could anyone with a x64 build please check if this applies to others as well? Just open the Goto windows by pressing Ctrl + G and then enter something like 2.8.0 - it should go to 2 mins 8 secs 0 ms then.

I've fixed in rev 1378

[Snowknight26]

I've noticed that when playing a full Bluray disc using MPC's internal TS splitter the subtitles (presentation graphics, I think) aren't recognized. It shows: no subtitles.
But when using Haali Media Splitter, it shows the subtitles.

Is support for presentation graphics subtitles in the to-do list of MPC-HC, or am I missing something?

Auto-answer: I was missing something, because now it show the subtitles... Sorry for this post.

I've already reported it several pages ago.
http://85.230.118.136/showthread.php?p=1347648#post1347648

[Leo100]

we are currently trying to get usefull debug logging into MPC-HC.
There is no chance this kind of stuff is going to get fixed without that.
How can I help identify the problem? What additional information can I provide?

[tetsuo55]

How can I help identify the problem? What additional information can I provide?Well if you are a programmer you could help getting the debug logging and exception handling feature into MPC-HC

[Leo100]

Well if you are a programmer you could help getting the debug logging and exception handling feature into MPC-HC

Sorry, I can help only by the user ...

[Steveo08]

i have a big problem with some mkv movies.

i am using mpc-hc with win 7 x64 @1080p and 24p and most videos are represented correctly, but not all.

when i looked under display stats during playback i saw that the green line make waves and the red line goes down irregularly.
i also noticed a judder during the movie.

and what i also noticed unter display stats, that the video frame rate is not the same (it's under my refresh rate) as my refresh rate from my screen (24hz), but it should be the same, because both are 24p.

the other movies are working well, and i got the same values for refresh rate and frame rate.

but what is wrong with the other movies?

i could swear (but i am not sure) it wasen't for a week, but i don't change anything at my media-pc.

my graphic card is xfx gt 220 with hdmi 1.3, i also installed the latest nvidia driver.






Edit:

i found my mistake, some days ago i disabled the jitter option at ac3filter cause i thought, that my receiver will do it, but he dosen't.

[DeepBeepMeep]

@DeepBeepMeep
It is not a bug, it is more of a design choice that was made many years ago. None of the internal splitters have a stream switcher (like Haali does). That is because MPC contains a separate audio stream switcher. Files with multiple video tracks were pretty much non-existent back then.

Changing this would mean a whole lot of work. So I don't see it happening anytime soon. Currently there are far more important things to improve/fix in MPC.

Ok thanks for you clarification. However, it seems to me that the player mpeg2 transport stream splitter has its own stream switcher contrary to the matroska splitter.

I have tried the internal audio switcher however it seems to be incompatible with ffdshow audio: whenever ffdshow audio is in the chain several multiples internal switchers are spawned. I have finally used instead the internal switcher of ffdshow audio. This is a solution but not very straightforward, it would be great if at least the compatibility between these two great softwares could be fixed.

[Momber]

Some sort of random stuttering was introduced with 1312. It does not happen very often, if it does only pause/play helps.
I concur with your observation and would like to know what is being done about it. Thanks.

[clsid]

I have tried the internal audio switcher however it seems to be incompatible with ffdshow audio: whenever ffdshow audio is in the chain several multiples internal switchers are spawned. I have finally used instead the internal switcher of ffdshow audio. This is a solution but not very straightforward, it would be great if at least the compatibility between these two great softwares could be fixed.You shouldn't be getting multiple switchers. I have never seen that happen before. That's a bug. Please provide more information so that the devs can try to reproduce it.

[Bumsfalara]

Downloading subtitles with Revisions 1373 and 1378 is not possible, I always get some kind of "seek-error".

Switched back to 1369, which is working fine.

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/c0sanxz3/Clipboard01.png

[clsid]

I suspect 1372 is the cause.

[73ChargerFan]

Has anyone else noticed that the Mplayer Classic matroska splitter demux all the audio streams/tracks at the same time and doesn't let the user choose the audio track.
I have tried the internal audio switcher however it seems to be incompatible with ffdshow audio: whenever ffdshow audio is in the chain several multiples internal switchers are spawned.
You shouldn't be getting multiple switchers. I have never seen that happen before. That's a bug. Please provide more information so that the devs can try to reproduce it.
DeepBeepMeep - The built in splitters will render all audio tracks, and has an Audio Switcher to switch between them. Make sure it is enabled under options; then while playing, right click and use the Audio submenu to change tracks.

[73ChargerFan]

How can the trak wiki be edited? The URL in Part A #6 has a typo.
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/How_to_compile_the_MPC

Part B #4c & #4d both reference the same environment variable. Should they be together, like path?

Part B #3, the path has an extra space in it?

Part B #2, Alexins's Cross-Mingw.GCC Core - There are two versions, static or shared pthreads. Does it matter which is used?

Part A #1 - I'd rather not pay $300 for Dev Studio 2008 / Vis C++ 2008. Can Express be retrofitted with ATL & MFC, by copying headers or libraries?