Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[Aleksoid1978]

Thats no true. There will be multiple small m2ts on the discs with low durations, yes, however there will be only 2-3 playlists of full size (one for each edition). There won't be 1m playlists, because that would be silly, you don't want to play those extra footage alone.

Playlists less then 10 minutes are of no interest to me, because even on TV series discs, those are either extras, or some sort of intros or stuff used in menus, which i never care about.

Hence, make it configurable, it'll be the best for everybode.

Options for this duration - later :)

[Mercury_22]

Thats no true. There will be multiple small m2ts on the discs with low durations, yes, however there will be only 2-3 playlists of full size (one for each edition). There won't be 1m playlists, because that would be silly, you don't want to play those extra footage alone.

Playlists less then 10 minutes are of no interest to me, because even on TV series discs, those are either extras, or some sort of intros or stuff used in menus, which i never care about.

Hence, make it configurable, it'll be the best for everybode.
Sorry but this time you're wrong I clearly remember at least one movie (because was so much pain in the a.. to play it with mpc-hc) with more than 2-3 playlists
One or two very short, maybe not 1 min short, but no more than 2-3 min because in one of the "cuts" there were scenes which were 2-3 min longer than in the other cut

[nevcairiel]

Sorry but this time you're wrong I clearly remember at least one movie (because was so much pain in the a.. to play it with mpc-hc) with more than 2-3 playlists
One or two very short, maybe not 1 min short, but no more than 2-3 min because in one of the "cuts" there were scenes which were 2-3 min longer than in the other cut

You misunderstand.
A movie with multiple editions will have one playlist for every edition, one being, say, 90 minutes long, one being 92 minutes long, and one 95 minutes long (Theater, Extended, Directors). It does usually NOT have a playlist for the 2 extra minutes, and even if it did, why the hell would you want to watch the 2 extra minutes separately? You want to watch the 92 minute movie, not a 90 minute movie and 2 minutes extra.

Sure, discs also have many other playlists, but those 3 are the ones i might want to watch, i don't care about the playlists that contain the short trailers or other useless content, which is why i only want playlists of a certain length, for all i care could even be 20 minutes.

You sound like you're trying to play the m2ts files, and not the playlists - which is something *completely* different.

[Mercury_22]

You misunderstand.
A movie with multiple editions will have one playlist for every edition, one being, say, 90 minutes long, one being 92 minutes long, and one 95 minutes long (Theater, Extended, Directors). It does usually NOT have a playlist for the 2 extra minutes, and even if it did, why the hell would you want to watch the 2 extra minutes separately? You want to watch the 92 minute movie, not a 90 minute movie and 2 minutes extra.

Sure, discs also have many other playlists, but those 3 are the ones i might want to watch, i don't care about the playlists that contain the short trailers or other useless content, which is why i only want playlists of a certain length, for all i care could even be 20 minutes.

You sound like you're trying to play the m2ts files, and not the playlists - which is something *completely* different.

I didn't misunderstood, what you're saying it's usually correct , BUT there are movies (I"m really really sorry I can't remember the names right now) where the main versions (director cut, Theater, Extended...) are "made" from multiple playlists ( I had to use tmt to play that one) !
(If i remember correctly it was a rumor they were specially "made" this way to make them harder to be ripped)

Anyway I don't see a reason to not expose all the playlists and let the user pick the ones he/she wants to play .
Why restrict user's access ? :confused: when clearly (at least in the case of calibration BD) there are situations when 1 min playlist are needed .

P.S. If needed I can provide you with examples of calibration discs with ~ 1 min playlists

[nevcairiel]

Anyway I don't see a reason to not expose all the playlists and let the user pick the ones he/she wants to play .
Why restrict user's access ? :confused: when clearly (at least in the case of calibration BD) there are situations when 1 min playlist are needed .


Because a list of 100 playlists is just annoying to navigate? :p

[Mercury_22]

Because a list of 100 playlists is just annoying to navigate? :p
:D then it seems the appropriate solution it's the one you've proposed make it configurable for the time being:p

[Superb]

Okay, I had a chance to install a hebrew Windows 7 (RTLed) on a VirtualBox and test the RTL bugs users reported.
a) Install MPC-HC w/o the translations on a Hebrew Windows.
b) Run MPC-HC for the first time:
http://i.imgur.com/Q8Fg7.png

I don't have a compilation environment installed here, but looking at the code (mplayerc.cpp; line 2453):
// Hebrew needs the RTL flag.
SetProcessDefaultLayout((nLanguage == 22) ? LAYOUT_RTL : LAYOUT_LTR);

The code in that function should probably be:
if ( hMod == NULL ) {
hMod = AfxGetApp()->m_hInstance;
s.iLanguage = 0;
} else if (nLanguage == 22) {
// Hebrew needs the RTL flag.
SetProcessDefaultLayout(LAYOUT_RTL);
}
if (AfxGetResourceHandle() != AfxGetApp()->m_hInstance) {
FreeLibrary(AfxGetResourceHandle());
}
AfxSetResourceHandle( hMod );

/*
// Something like this is needed to have the options dialog RTLed

Explanation: only if the Hebrew language DLL is found AND nLanguage == Hebrew (22), then layout should be set to RTL.

[Superb]

Alright. The fix in my previous comment fixes the issue where the layout is set to RTL even though the language DLL wasn't loaded.
I'm now testing and checking the mis-layout of the Options dialog. It seems to be garbled anyway when:
a) The Hebrew DLL is installed.
b) MPC-HC is set to Hebrew.
c) Windows is Hebrew.
Screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/G6Zvw.png
(Hebrew MPC-HC on Hebrew Windows 7)

If Windows is English, then the Options dialog is not messed up, even when it contains Hebrew:
http://i.imgur.com/6jAWe.png
(Hebrew MPC-HC on English Windows 7)

EDIT: Opened a ticket (https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1899) on trac.

[DzigiBau]

I have been following this thread for a long time, without a need to ask a simple thing, since you explained everything perfectly. Now, I have two small issues if someone can check it out.

1. Internal decoder works fine with 1080p content, but FFDshow has a black screen with sound plays fine. It is Planet Earth BBC show, for instance. I can use internal one for this content, but I like FFDshow since it has more options to play with.

2. I do not know how to correctly explain this one, but it bothers me a lot. Can you imagine some scene, where camera moves fast horizontally from left to right or opposite way. Anytime we have a such scene, there is a huge lag, jitter whatever. On vertical moves it is playing fine. No matter what decoder I use, it always had a lags on horizontal moves, something like it plays a little bit slower than normal speed. I have card ATI 5770, latest drivers 11.11, EVR-CP, tried every single version of them, the problem remains. Played with de-interlacing in CCC, situation remains same. I started thinking it could be encoding problem, when someone makes a rip of movie from Blue ray source or it is decoder problem.

I really would like to discover, how to solve this one.

[vkapartz]

2. I do not know how to correctly explain this one, but it bothers me a lot. Can you imagine some scene, where camera moves fast horizontally from left to right or opposite way. Anytime we have a such scene, there is a huge lag, jitter whatever. On vertical moves it is playing fine. No matter what decoder I use, it always had a lags on horizontal moves, something like it plays a little bit slower than normal speed. I have card ATI 5770, latest drivers 11.11, EVR-CP, tried every single version of them, the problem remains. Played with de-interlacing in CCC, situation remains same. I started thinking it could be encoding problem, when someone makes a rip of movie from Blue ray source or it is decoder problem.

I really would like to discover, how to solve this one.

Others will probably explain it better, but that's an encoder problem and a decoder problem and a frame rate problem, so I highly doubt you'll ever be able to resolve it. Google "3:2 pulldown" and you'll get a lot of explanations regarding the frame rates, but in addition panning shots are just difficult to encode and decode smoothly.

[Superb]

Guys, in order to compile the trunk, do I need to separately download and extract MediaInfo and ZenLib?

[golagoda]

Guys, in order to compile the trunk, do I need to separately download and extract MediaInfo and ZenLib?

When I used to use TortoiseSVN on the mpc-hc folder that I had fetched from the trunk branch of the SVN it would update those by itself as well as MPC-HC, so no.

[Mercury_22]

@Aleksoid great job with Revision 3891 - Directory Listing
Modified Mon Dec 12 00:10:53 2011 UTC (10 hours, 13 minutes ago) by Aleksoid

Change : Rearranging sub-menu "Jump to...", the partition sub-menu "Jump to .." of 30 items; Show chapters only if more than one value;
:thanks:
But for BD with 2 or more playlists (mpls) is it possible to add an option to make MPC-HC play them one after the other continuously without stopping after first mpls ?

[Superb]

When I used to use TortoiseSVN on the mpc-hc folder that I had fetched from the trunk branch of the SVN it would update those by itself as well as MPC-HC, so no.Oh. I see. Heh. They made svn auto-download it from the other repositories. I didn't use svn to download the sources. I used the "Download GNU tarball" in the buttom of the page in the SF.net browser, heh. Thx for the explanation. I managed to compile MPC-HC now.

[Superb]

I don't have a compilation environment installed here, but looking at the code (mplayerc.cpp; line 2453):
// Hebrew needs the RTL flag.
SetProcessDefaultLayout((nLanguage == 22) ? LAYOUT_RTL : LAYOUT_LTR);

The code in that function should probably be:
if ( hMod == NULL ) {
hMod = AfxGetApp()->m_hInstance;
s.iLanguage = 0;
} else if (nLanguage == 22) {
// Hebrew needs the RTL flag.
SetProcessDefaultLayout(LAYOUT_RTL);
}
if (AfxGetResourceHandle() != AfxGetApp()->m_hInstance) {
FreeLibrary(AfxGetResourceHandle());
}
AfxSetResourceHandle( hMod );

/*
// Something like this is needed to have the options dialog RTLed

Explanation: only if the Hebrew language DLL is found AND nLanguage == Hebrew (22), then layout should be set to RTL.I can verify that this fixes the first RTL issue.

EDIT: here is the patch file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/f5q9v9).

[Superb]

And here is an updated Hebrew RC file (http://www.sendspace.com/file/r8xk3y) which adds RTL style to:
a) Options dialog property pages.
b) Organize favorites dialog.
c) About dialog.
d) Shader editor dialog.

[Blight]

I hope this is the right thread,
I have a small feature request for vsfilter:
Can you please modify the IAMStreamSelect entry for the embedded subtitle-stream to use a different group value?
As it is now, there's no reliable way to distinguish between external/embedded sub streams.

[Superb]

I've fixed the Options dialog RTL issue! :)
Patch attached here: https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1899

[hellbringer616]

I'm having an issue with MadVR, which is basically preventing me from using this amazing plugin..

And that is, fullscreen interface is broken.. No volume adjust, not seeking, nothing..

I was reading on page 840 it was pseudo fixed with MPC-HC 3011. I am using the main download from the home page (3456) and it's not working..

[oddball]

I have an issue when using MPC-HC with ReClock. Actually it's more a feature request.

Right now as it stands you can set MPC to change screen refresh and resolutions to match the video FPS using fullscreen output. This is great. However it has one big downside for anyone using ReClock and PAL material. You either have to set MPC to change to 50Hz for anything it detects in the 25FPS area - which is all well and good for actual PAL stuff like TV shows - or if you have a movie that is 25FPS and you want to use ReClock to slow it down to the correct speed of 23.976FPS then the fullscreen detection goes out of the window and you have to go in and set the detection manually.

Not good!

What I suggest in this scenario is the ability for MPC-HC to detect a tag either in the filename (_24FPS_ for instance) or a file in the same folder that tells MPC to ignore changing to 50Hz and instead setting it to 23/24Hz output.

Does this sound like too much to ask? :) This would make MPC-HC one step short of perfection (at least for me). MadVR has a toggle to treat 25FPS as film but it also requires setting and restarting and using it's inbuilt refresh changer (The new MPC-HC autochange is better).

What do the devs think?

[hellbringer616]

I have an issue when using MPC-HC with ReClock. Actually it's more a feature request.

Right now as it stands you can set MPC to change screen refresh and resolutions to match the video FPS using fullscreen output. This is great. However it has one big downside for anyone using ReClock and PAL material. You either have to set MPC to change to 50Hz for anything it detects in the 25FPS area - which is all well and good for actual PAL stuff like TV shows - or if you have a movie that is 25FPS and you want to use ReClock to slow it down to the correct speed of 23.976FPS then the fullscreen detection goes out of the window and you have to go in and set the detection manually.

Not good!

What I suggest in this scenario is the ability for MPC-HC to detect a tag either in the filename (_24FPS_ for instance) or a file in the same folder that tells MPC to ignore changing to 50Hz and instead setting it to 23/24Hz output.

Does this sound like too much to ask? :) This would make MPC-HC one step short of perfection (at least for me). MadVR has a toggle to treat 25FPS as film but it also requires setting and restarting and using it's inbuilt refresh changer (The new MPC-HC autochange is better).

What do the devs think?

I can actually help with that. A program here with do exactly what you want.

http://www.homecinema-hd.com/autofrequency_en.html

[Blight]

Hi, I've found a bug related to stream selection through the IAMStreamSelect interface:
The MPC MKV splitter (and possibly other MPC splitters) assign a language code using the ISO639 standard instead of LCID (like Haali, LAV, and what the spec says) on the IAMStreamSelect interface.

[nevcairiel]

MPC MKV doesn't have a IAMStreamSelect, it always exposes all streams (It supports ITrackInfo though)
MPC MPEG-TS uses LCID values.

[betaking]

MPC MKV doesn't have a IAMStreamSelect, it always exposes all streams (It supports ITrackInfo though)
MPC MPEG-TS uses LCID values.

TO NEV:MPC Mpeg Splitter not support evo file,can you make a patch for MPC Mpeg Splitter for evo file?:thanks:

[nevcairiel]

TO NEV:MPC Mpeg Splitter not support evo file,can you make a patch for MPC Mpeg Splitter for evo file?:thanks:

Why would i ever do that?

[Keiyakusha]

MPC-HC really need just throw away its filters and use LAV. Porting anything from LAV is a waste of time...
BTW, if dxva is what preventing this, why not just make it totally separate?
I mean currently updating ffmpeg means updating the code for normal decoders and some of the code for DXVA, right? But why not just make DXVA totally separate (compiled against ffmpeg that have only needed stuff turned on) and never update its ffmpeg part? It doesn't looks like updating can bring any changes related to quality or speed (as long as it won't break it) so pick some stable ffmpeg revision and go with that... And for everything else just use LAV.

[ney2x]

mpc-hc really need just throw away its filters and use lav. Porting anything from lav is a waste of time...
Btw, if dxva is what preventing this, why not just make it totally separate?
I mean currently updating ffmpeg means updating the code for normal decoders and some of the code for dxva, right? But why not just make dxva totally separate (compiled against ffmpeg that have only needed stuff turned on) and never update its ffmpeg part? It doesn't looks like updating can bring any changes related to quality or speed (as long as it won't break it) so pick some stable ffmpeg revision and go with that... And for everything else just use lav.

+1 ;)

[clsid]

It is already possible to build MPC-HC without (some of) the internal filters. Loading unregistered external filters is also already possible. Problem is that there is no consensus about replacing the internal filters, because some devs prefer MPC-HC be be one large executable, even though it makes no difference at all with regard to portability.

[SamuriHL]

It is already possible to build MPC-HC without (some of) the internal filters. Loading unregistered external filters is also already possible. Problem is that there is no consensus about replacing the internal filters, because some devs prefer MPC-HC be be one large executable, even though it makes no difference at all with regard to portability.

Yup. I build my version of MPC-HC with no internal filters. Works great. Once you set up your external filters the way you like, back up your config and call it good. The whole large executable thing is a bit ridiculous, IMO, but, I understand the debate that has gone on with that and I'll just leave it alone. :)

[Keiyakusha]

Yup. I build my version of MPC-HC with no internal filters. Works great. Once you set up your external filters the way you like, back up your config and call it good. The whole large executable thing is a bit ridiculous, IMO, but, I understand the debate that has gone on with that and I'll just leave it alone. :)
Do you know anyone who makes this kind of builds on constant basis? If no, can you share one of your compiles? Currently i have zero software installed needed to compile it on my own and don't have any free time =(

[SamuriHL]

Do you know anyone who makes this kind of builds on constant basis? If no, can you share one of your compiles? Currently i have zero software installed needed to compile it on my own and don't have any free time =(

I don't know of anyone building one like that besides me on a regular basis, no. I'd share mine but it's having issues. For some reason the version information is all screwed up. It's having trouble finding SVN during the build so it's not able to pull the latest version number to build with. The code is the latest, but, there's no way to know what build it is. I need to fix that.

EDIT: I think I just found the issue. My local copy wasn't upgraded to the new TortoisSVN version so it was failing in update_version. I'm fixing that now and will try to do another build.

[kasper93]

I have had same issue. Simply download latest version of win32svn http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32svn/files/ and replace it in a MSYS/bin directory (or anywhere where you have old version of win32svn). Of course it is needed only for TortoisSVN version higher than 1.7.

[SamuriHL]

Thanks. I just solved it slightly differently and it'll work for me. I wrote custom build scripts for all the projects I build. I just needed to update the project to the latest TortoisSVN version and update one line in my script. It's building now and I'll post a build shortly. Please note I only build 32 bit versions as I use madVR.

[SamuriHL]

http://www.mediafire.com/?4d0yvdbcw5dqa9m

Latest 32 bit build, *NO* internal filters whatsoever. The entire internal filters page is blank....just the way I like it. :D

[Mierastor]

Any possibility of adding gamma correction to Color controls? Gamma correction is very important if less than optimal environmental lightning or computer monitor. It is found in for example every graphics intensive game with self respect which illustrates its importance.

[Keiyakusha]

http://www.mediafire.com/?4d0yvdbcw5dqa9m

Latest 32 bit build, *NO* internal filters whatsoever. The entire internal filters page is blank....just the way I like it. :D

Thank you! Seems to be everything is ok!
Personally I don't see any reasons to use x64 build... not only because I use madvr ^__^

[SamuriHL]

Thank you! Seems to be everything is ok!
Personally I don't see any reasons to use x64 build... not only because I use madvr ^__^

I don't either. I don't even build it. In fact, I haven't even resolved the libs necessary TO build it. I could if needed, but, I have no intention of doing so. In any case, I hope that helps you out. I'm not in a position to post continuous builds like that, however. I tend to build it when I need it.

[Blight]

nev:
You're correct, I've been buried in IAMStreamSelect for days and got dazed.
What I meant to say is that the connection between the MPC splitter, which outputs a pin for every stream, doesn't relay the stream's language code to the connected filter (i.e. DirectVobSub).
Is this not possible or just missing code in vobsub/mpc?

[oddball]

I can actually help with that. A program here with do exactly what you want.

http://www.homecinema-hd.com/autofrequency_en.html

I tried it and all it does is add a right click to alternate MPC.EXE and .ini file in the Explorer context menu and it flashes my displays on and off more times than it should. Plus it is a very messy way of doing it. I want MPC-HC to do it more elegantly internally. All it is is a bit of code that flags PAL movies tagged with say _24FPS_ to play at 23/24Hz refresh rate instead of 50Hz. Yeah I know. It sounds easy but like most things implementing it is another matter. Any devs want to chime in? The silence is deafening.

EDIT: Oh and it does not work with some of my MKV files for some reason. MPC does not open to play them.

EDIT2: I uninstalled AutoFrequency as it is not working correctly for me despite folowing that guide to the letter. I tried to run MPC-HC from a different folder location in Explorer and not it won't let me set two differeng locations with two differing mpc-hc.ini files from the context menu. It always defaults back to the old folder even if I choose the exe in the other folder. Any way around this?

EDIT3: Sorry if it sounds moanie and demanding. It's been a long day :)

I can't believe nobody has sorted this one out yet. PAL movies speedown is completely different to PAL 50 TV and it should be an easy thing to fix. ffdshow has profiles (But sadly no option to change refresh on-the-fly). I think MPC-HC needs auto loading profiles too.

[Waleska]

Would a partially inaccessible menu for a commercial DVD fall in the category of already known problems you're likely to expect from EVR-CP's current state of development or should I bother reporting this stuff? just happened to me with "Alice In Wonderland Masterpiece Edition"

Thanks.

[nevcairiel]

What I meant to say is that the connection between the MPC splitter, which outputs a pin for every stream, doesn't relay the stream's language code to the connected filter (i.e. DirectVobSub).
Is this not possible or just missing code in vobsub/mpc?

For subtitles at least, it sets the language in the FORMAT_SubtitleInfo block. Its quite possible that DVS just fails at reading it.

TBH, i see no reason whatsoever to use the MPC-HC MVK Splitter for anything these days, it has no features or advantages over LAV or Haali.

[Superb]

Can anybody please commit the following fixes:
a. http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1899
b. http://www.sendspace.com/file/f5q9v9 (explanation (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1544546#post1544546))
c. http://www.sendspace.com/file/r8xk3y (explanation (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1544572#post1544572))
?

They only affect the RTL interface and make it usable under RTL OSs.

EDIT: I'm talking w/ Underground78 regarding the patches and even more RTL improvements. :)

[Reino]

I would appreciate it if TAK (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=TAK) could be added to MPC-HC's file extension list. If OptimFROG is in it, TAK deserves to be in it too imo.

[Blight]

nev:
Just trying to be complete in my stream-selection code since MPC's codecs are still being used, they're not my default choice either.

[ADude]

For music you have fb2k. Or songbird if you want opensource. I believe there are even more alternatives that I'm not aware of.

The best one for Windows at the moment is at:

http://getmusicbee.com

Free - and dev is much friendlier than fb2k ;)

[LV3]

Hi all I started using this as my media player but I've had a problem I can't seem to find a resolution to anywhere. I have a 5.1 channel audio setup (this is the system default) however when playing movies with Media Player Classic HC I only get stereo...

Windows Media Player outputs 5.1 just fine but it can't play Blu-Ray and MPCHC is a more convenient player anyways. I have no idea how to mess with MPCHC's audio output system (in fact most of the players settings confuse me), and it's not working right even though the player says its reading the 5.1 track!

Forgive me if there already is one but a 'how to' guide for this program would be very welcome as well.

[kasper93]

If you are using internal filters you have to set number of output channels in decoder setting, by default it's 2.0. (options->internal filters->double click on decoder)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16282309/5.1.png

Personally I would suggest you to use LAV filters instead of internal filters. Anyway here is nice guide to set up MPC-HC http://www.homecinema-hd.com/intro_en.html

[Superb]

Alright, now that the first batch of RTL fixes is in (Underground78 committed it), it is time to talk about improving the translation system.
In my opinion it should work w/ string tables (in rc files compiled to dlls) instead of doubling the resource file completely.
Each dialog's class should contain a Localize() method which will load the strings to the controls.
See the eMule source code (MFC-based as well, of course) for a nice way of doing it.
It will also simplify the process of submitting/adding/editing a translation. Will allow the project to get rid of some of the scripts for syncing the translation.
It will also allow the project to dump the txt files and use the regular RC by itself.
What do you think?

[CruNcher]

MPC-HC Matroska parser fails @ correct playback of both remuxes http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=163478 dshow = haali muxer cmd = mkvmerge :(

[LV3]

If you are using internal filters you have to set number of output channels in decoder setting, by default it's 2.0. (options->internal filters->double click on decoder)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16282309/5.1.png

Personally I would suggest you to use LAV filters instead of internal filters. Anyway here is nice guide to set up MPC-HC http://www.homecinema-hd.com/intro_en.html

Thanks a bunch, it works now! Sorry if this was in the wrong thread.