Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[rpm7200]

@sidi0us

please disable mpc's internal audio decoder and install last ffdshow. in decoder options disable "enable jitter correction" . your problem will be solved. sorry my english.

[decapitado]

@Ar-Jar
What settings should I change in Sync Renderer to 24p playback? :confused:

[betaking]

this words not add to mpc-hc Menu by mpc-hc.exe and mplayerc.rc!
Scale to 16:9 TV
Zoom To Widescreen
Zoom To Ultra-Widescreen
http://imgur.com/GJcGG.jpg

[sidi0us]

@sidi0us

please disable mpc's internal audio decoder and install last ffdshow. in decoder options disable "enable jitter correction" . your problem will be solved. sorry my english.

thank you so much, I've been dealing with this problem for a long time.

[Polcius]

Any ETA on the "double image" fix?

How should I set up ffdshow, in the meantime?

Any help with ffdshow?

[Underground78]

Hello,

Is there a guide for the new BDA capture card support somewhere or something like a FAQ maybe ?

I've managed to make a scan to get the channels' list (French digital terrestrial television) but when I try to play a channel, I have only the sound track for SD channels and a crash for HD channels.

Thanks

[ar-jar]

What are your setting in the sync renderer?
It was a clean win7 install, I have microsoft security essentials running but it doesn´t take too much cpu to run in background.

The CPU load is between 5 and 15%.

Do you achieve those results with or without subtitles? Or both? What settings can I change in Sync Renderer to perfect playback?

thanks

See my blog, particularly this page (http://www.ostrogothia.com/?page_id=1050) and its underlying pages. I get perfect sync with all subtitles, e.g. with blu-ray subs.

[ar-jar]

Hi, I have this weird glitch that I just can't find a proper way to resolve it.

This is what I'm talking about.

evr-cp (default) (http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/sidi0us/evr-cpdefault.jpg) // evr-cp (mpc audio renderer) (http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/sidi0us/evr-cpmpcaudiorenderer.jpg)

evr - present at nearest vsync (default) (http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/sidi0us/evr-presentatnearestvsyncdefault.jpg) // evr - present at nearest vsync (mpc audio renderer) (http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/sidi0us/evr-presentatnearestvsyncmpcaudiore.jpg)

As you cand see, the only way to completely remove it is to use MPC renderer, but the sound is crackling and audio gets slightly aut of sync.

Here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zmjjunnlzzz/sample.mkv) is a sample of the video (mkv 23.97 fps). On my sistem (analog 5.1) the glitch appears twice, first at 00:07 and then at 00:15.

My specs are: Win 7 x86, e2180, Radeon 4670 (Catalyst 10.1), Realtek HD alc888 (2.41).
I've tried every renderer, different versions of mpc-hc (1557, 1489, 1249, 604), different audio and video drivers and nothing.

Do you also get this with external decoders? I have similar glitches in some blu-ray movies I play, e.g. "300", in very dark passages of the movie using the internal decoder. I believe it's a peculiarity of the internal video decoder. -A

[tetsuo55]

Hello,

Is there a guide for the new BDA capture card support somewhere or something like a FAQ maybe ?

I've managed to make a scan to get the channels' list (French digital terrestrial television) but when I try to play a channel, I have only the sound track for SD channels and a crash for HD channels.

ThanksUnfortunately not, i have started a manual framework but its emtpy
We need some volunteers to fill it.

Maybe you can add it to this page when you finally find out?
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/Manual
(you will need to be logged into sourceforge for the edit button to appear)

[tetsuo55]

this words not add to mpc-hc Menu by mpc-hc.exe and mplayerc.rc!
Scale to 16:9 TV
Zoom To Widescreen
Zoom To Ultra-Widescreen You can open a translation request for this on the translation forum: http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/mpc-hc/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=3757342f7e3e4a6489bd7f7ed74952bd
(You will need to log into your sourceforge account)

Alternatively you could open a ticket on the tracker listing all items that require translation

[sidi0us]

Do you also get this with external decoders? I have similar glitches in some blu-ray movies I play, e.g. "300", in very dark passages of the movie using the internal decoder. I believe it's a peculiarity of the internal video decoder. -A

Yes, CoreAVC 2.0 and Microsoft Video Decoder had the same glitch. I've disabled "enable jitter correction" in ffdshow audio decoder like rpm7200 said and now all is working fine. I've also tried disabling jitter correction from ac3 filter but it was even worse.
MPC audio renderer was the only solution, but the sound glitches and audio delay was annoying.

[decapitado]

See my blog, particularly this page (http://www.ostrogothia.com/?page_id=1050) and its underlying pages. I get perfect sync with all subtitles, e.g. with blu-ray subs.
Thank you, I´ve been troubleshooting all afternoon and I finally did it!
Some notes that may interest you:

At 23.976hz with the option "present at nearest vsync" it dropped a frame every 5 minutes or so - annoying

At 60hz with the option "present at nearest vsync" NEVER DROPPED any frames but judder from the pulldown was present - still annoying

After reading your tutorial I was loosing hope when it said that with the option "sync video to display" would lead do Spdif audio problems (wich I use).

But I tried it anyway, and voila!
The red line in the graph is always straight, there are no dropped frames or glitches, and the audio starts with a +-150ms lag (which is not noticeable) and after a couple of minutes the lag disappears and all is in perfect sync :D:D:D:D

All the above with a target sync offset of 20ms and CoreAVC (Cuda) as video decoder.

Thank you ar-jar, you´re the man, keep up the good work ;)

[ashlar42]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1400 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1400.html)

(1394-1400)
Fixed : blank item for appcommand;
Added : support of Broadcom Video decoder for VC1, H264 and Mpeg2 (hardware acceleration);
I've tried reading several pages but the thread it's really tough to navigate, with the variety of subjects going on. So, pardon me if I ask something obvious (I did search for Broadcom and Crystal HD).

I'm under Windows 7 x64, I installed the Broadcom drivers for x64. MPC-HC is 32 bit because I'd like to keep using Reclock.
How exactly should I go about using Crystal HD decoding?

If I disable the internal filters (h264 for instance) playback doesn't even start. If I have them activated it works really badly. If I block Broadcom video decoders, my ATI is used for DXVA.

I also don't understand how and if EVR sync should be used with Reclock. By selecting it I had *really* juddery playback. Pretty much unwatchable. Standard DXVA with ATI plus Reclock and Custom EVR is giving me really smooth playback with 24p sources.

Edit: ok, just read ar-jar's page: no Reclock with EVR synch.

[mark0077]

EDIT: De-interlacing twice (in ffdshow and then using gfx card, which was a mistake on my part) causes mpc-hc to drop half of the 100 frames. This of course isn't a big deal for me as its pointless to have 25i converted to 100p but I still don't think mpc-hc should drop any frames.

[tetsuo55]

I've tried reading several pages but the thread it's really tough to navigate, with the variety of subjects going on. So, pardon me if I ask something obvious (I did search for Broadcom and Crystal HD).

I'm under Windows 7 x64, I installed the Broadcom drivers for x64. MPC-HC is 32 bit because I'd like to keep using Reclock.
How exactly should I go about using Crystal HD decoding?

If I disable the internal filters (h264 for instance) playback doesn't even start. If I have them activated it works really badly. If I block Broadcom video decoders, my ATI is used for DXVA.

I also don't understand how and if EVR sync should be used with Reclock. By selecting it I had *really* juddery playback. Pretty much unwatchable. Standard DXVA with ATI plus Reclock and Custom EVR is giving me really smooth playback with 24p sources.

Edit: ok, just read ar-jar's page: no Reclock with EVR synch.just to be sure, you do have a crystal hd card installed right?

[ar-jar]

Thank you, I´ve been troubleshooting all afternoon and I finally did it!
Some notes that may interest you:

At 23.976hz with the option "present at nearest vsync" it dropped a frame every 5 minutes or so - annoying

At 60hz with the option "present at nearest vsync" NEVER DROPPED any frames but judder from the pulldown was present - still annoying

After reading your tutorial I was loosing hope when it said that with the option "sync video to display" would lead do Spdif audio problems (wich I use).

But I tried it anyway, and voila!
The red line in the graph is always straight, there are no dropped frames or glitches, and the audio starts with a +-150ms lag (which is not noticeable) and after a couple of minutes the lag disappears and all is in perfect sync :D:D:D:D

All the above with a target sync offset of 20ms and CoreAVC (Cuda) as video decoder.

Thank you ar-jar, you´re the man, keep up the good work ;)

Thanks! Present at nearest will drop or duplicate a frame every now and then by design. It doesn't attempt to synchronize, just to drop or duplicate as discreetly as possible w/o tearing or extra judder. So you can conclude that your display and video rates have a difference of one frame cycle time every five minutes (which is not too bad actually). But perfect sync is always better :-). I can't guarantee that SPDIF output won't lead to audio and video getting slightly out of sync eventually but then again, I've only tested it on my own setup. -A

[khagaroth]

A question for some developers, what version of Inno Setup are you going to use for the installer? The setup script says 5.3.7+, but it doesn't specify if it's going to be the ANSI or Unicode version. I'm going to translate custom_messages.iss, but the Unicode installer needs UTF-8 iss files and the ANSI installer needs ANSI iss files, the text gets messed up otherwise, so it cannot be mixed.

[iSeries]

@decapitado: regarding your comments about present at nearest. With my screen at 23.976hz, and target offset set to 30, I just played 'The Bourne Identity', and reset the stats after a few minutes. I let the whole movie play through. There were 0 glitches and 1 dropped frame for the whole film. Not sure why you would get a dropped frame every 5 minutes?

[XhmikosR]

A question for some developers, what version of Inno Setup are you going to use for the installer? The setup script says 5.3.7+, but it doesn't specify if it's going to be the ANSI or Unicode version. I'm going to translate custom_messages.iss, but the Unicode installer needs UTF-8 iss files and the ANSI installer needs ANSI iss files, the text gets messed up otherwise, so it cannot be mixed.

That's a good question. We need to use the unicode Inno Setup but it gives me some errors about wrong codepage for the two chinese languages.

[decapitado]

@decapitado: regarding your comments about present at nearest. With my screen at 23.976hz, and target offset set to 30, I just played 'The Bourne Identity', and reset the stats after a few minutes. I let the whole movie play through. There were 0 glitches and 1 dropped frame for the whole film. Not sure why you would get a dropped frame every 5 minutes?

I don´t know either :(
But with the other option it works so I´m pleased :)

Just one question did you see the movie with 5.1 sound via SPDIF?

[iSeries]

Hi decapitado: the sound was 5.1 FLAC decoded to PCM over hdmi (ATI 4550)

[ashlar42]

just to be sure, you do have a crystal hd card installed right?Yes, I do. :)
Win 7x64, driver version 3.10 (64 bit). Using MPC-HC 32 bit to be able to keep on using Reclock.

[tetsuo55]

Yes, I do. :)
Win 7x64, driver version 3.10 (64 bit). Using MPC-HC 32 bit to be able to keep on using Reclock.maybe you need to use mpc-hc 64 bit?

[asdz]

Installing an url file is silly altogether. InnoSetup can create URL shortcuts directly without have to install a file.

well what i mean is to just correct the file name located in mpc install folder "check_update_for_MPC-HC.url" to "check update for MPC-HC.url" when recompiling the installer >_>

[Dark Eiri]

Since rev 1503, I've been getting this on my main PC (Q6600, Radeon HD4870, Win7):

http://i48.tinypic.com/dlqech.jpg

Should be this (rev 1489):

http://i48.tinypic.com/x5rwqd.png

I get this on all renders. Even on a brand new installation. On Catalyst 9.11, 9.12 and 10.1 (all I tried, basically).

On my netbook (Atom 330, Intel 945, Win7), everything is fine.

Is there something I can do? Is someone able to reproduce this?
I'm stuck on 1489 for my PC to this date :/

[stevenckl]

Dark Eiri maybe u can try disable the internal filter H.264/AVC(FFmpeg). I had the same problem but after disable the filter everything back to normal.

[iron2000]

Someone at Neowin made a MPC background:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/869170-a-better-stock-media-player-classic-background/

[Dark Eiri]

Oh it happens with everything, even with not h264! But you're right, disabling the internal filters and leaving ffdshow do the job seems to fix it! Thanks!

[X-Files]

Oh it happens with everything, even with not h264! But you're right, disabling the internal filters and leaving ffdshow do the job seems to fix it! Thanks!

Don't laugh so early, Just try some WMV ,MKV files, hoho~~ U will still get "Double Images" , but whatever, AVI ok first .

My option: back to v1489 , I know v15xx not right yet.

[Dark Eiri]

^ Oh, I noticed it. But I disabled the internal filters for absolutely everything not-DXVA. Left only the audio ones checked. I'm letting ffdshow do the work on the video till they fix it. I just don't understand why on my netbook everything is okay if the problem is in the decoders, not the renderers. The GPU shouldn't affect the software decoders, right? Any ideas on the cause of the issue? It's been almost 100 revisions now, and it still persists.

[Xorp]

Since rev 1503, I've been getting this on my main PC

http://i48.tinypic.com/dlqech.jpg

Same issue here with VC1 + Haali renderer

[Snowknight26]

Why is Haali Renderer a selectable option in the 64-bit version of MPC-HC if it isn't installed? Should show the same behavior as madVR.

[decapitado]

^ Oh, I noticed it. But I disabled the internal filters for absolutely everything not-DXVA. Left only the audio ones checked. I'm letting ffdshow do the work on the video till they fix it. I just don't understand why on my netbook everything is okay if the problem is in the decoders, not the renderers. The GPU shouldn't affect the software decoders, right? Any ideas on the cause of the issue? It's been almost 100 revisions now, and it still persists.
Is your Win7 32 or 64 bit?
I have a x64 machine where I have that problem, and a 32bit where the recent builds work fine.
Maybe it´s a 64 bit bug.

[kramcd]

Is your Win7 32 or 64 bit?
I have a x64 machine where I have that problem, and a 32bit where the recent builds work fine.
Maybe it´s a 64 bit bug.

Nope, I have 2 pc's running windows 7 32bit and both have this fault with v.1490->. No worries with MKV files only AVI files....

[decapitado]

I can't guarantee that SPDIF output won't lead to audio and video getting slightly out of sync eventually but then again, I've only tested it on my own setup. -A
Once again you´re right, I celebrated too early :(
Audio and video get of out sync along the movie.
Well, guess I have to stick with present at nearest and have dropped frames once in a while :rolleyes:

[ar-jar]

Once again you´re right, I celebrated too early :(
Audio and video get of out sync along the movie.
Well, guess I have to stick with present at nearest and have dropped frames once in a while :rolleyes:

Turn off the stats and you will never notice :-) -A

[Underground78]

Unfortunately not, i have started a manual framework but its emtpy
We need some volunteers to fill it.

Maybe you can add it to this page when you finally find out?
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/Manual
(you will need to be logged into sourceforge for the edit button to appear)

Hum I think I will need some help first ... :o

It seems that there is something wrong with live capture and DVXA decoder, I have to disable the internal MPEG2 DVXA decoder to get a video output. It is quite strange because when I try to play a MPEG2 file there is no problem and DVXA is not even used.

Moreover something else must go wrong somewhere because when it works (ie with DVXA disabled), the ratio aspect is not correct (I always get 4/3 for 16/9).

[pirlouy]

@Dark Eiri: well known bug (described several times in previous pages):

Disable some internal filters and let another decoder do the job (ffdshow for example).

[CiNcH]

I have no clue how to use the recently added DVB stuff. Think I managed to open the DVB device via "Open Device...". But how can I add channels now?

[torpedo]

Double picture issue has been regressed by Cassimir666 since svn 1589.

[decapitado]

Turn off the stats and you will never notice :-) -A
Don´t ask me how but I managed it. I installed Reclock 1.7 (an older version) and now audio and video are always in sync with reclock as audio renderer. :p

[Underground78]

I have no clue how to use the recently added DVB stuff. Think I managed to open the DVB device via "Open Device...". But how can I add channels now?

To open the scan panel you must use shift + T after you have opened the device.

[Dark Eiri]

Is your Win7 32 or 64 bit?
I have a x64 machine where I have that problem, and a 32bit where the recent builds work fine.
Maybe it´s a 64 bit bug.

Nope, it's 32bit, both machines.

So rev 1589 or newer should be fixed, huh? I'll try that then!

[ar-jar]

Don´t ask me how but I managed it. I installed Reclock 1.7 (an older version) and now audio and video are always in sync with reclock as audio renderer. :p

Yeah, reclock and "present at nearest" works fine (but most likely not the other sync modes). I get maybe one glitch per movie, sometimes not even that. -A

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1594 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1594.html)

Supported languages: BR, BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SE, SK, TR, UA

(1587-1594):

Add : auto resolution change for DVD;
Fixed pesky error message in Sync Renderer when 10 bit RGB isn't supported by the graphics device;
Fixed : quick and dirty patch to fix convertion to YUY2 with swscale (revert to CopyBuffer);
translated Czech strings in custom_messages.iss - this required to change its code page to UTF-8 and bumping minimal requirements for setup to Unicode versions of Inno Setup only - changed info in mpc-home_x86.iss and mpc-home_x64.iss accordingly;
installer: -added mutex so install/uninstall stops if mpc-hc is running
-added Minversion (win2k) and removed an invalid directive since we're using unicode IS;
Cosmetics;
Allow compiler to emit SSE code by adding /arch:sse for all projects and -msse -mfpmath=sse for ffmpeg (as discussed on IRC, SSE has been available for AMD since 2001, intel since 1999, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_SIMD_Extensions);
Add messagebox when unable to connect to subtitle database site.

[X-Files]

The Big good news is : the "double images" is totally fixed by v1594 ! yep, repeat , it's fixed, I tried all the AVI , WMV,MKV ,lol! thx alot for developer !

[Snowknight26]

The Big good news is : the "double images" is totally fixed by v1594 ! yep, repeat , it's fixed, I tried all the AVI , WMV,MKV ,lol! thx alot for developer !

Obviously:

Fixed : quick and dirty patch to fix convertion to YUY2 with swscale (revert to CopyBuffer);


It's times like these that MPC-HC had source code documentation.. makes it kind of hard to fiddle with the code and potentially fix bugs if you don't know what you're doing. :p

[tetsuo55]

Obviously:



It's times like these that MPC-HC had source code documentation.. makes it kind of hard to fiddle with the code and potentially fix bugs if you don't know what you're doing. :pI hear you.
I'm reading a (best practice)book on the subject, so this can be improved. http://producingoss.com/

[decapitado]

Add : auto resolution change for DVD
:thanks: X-Dron :)

[XhmikosR]

To all translators: Download the latest installer from xvidvideo.ru and see if the messages look ok in your language. Currently Swedish has a problem which is fixed but not yet committed. If you find that some other language has problems please post here.