Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[6233638]

Thanks for the documentation. My apologies if these are really basic questions. (I'm new to HTPC stuff)

I've searched, but can't find any relevant answers. When I enable D3D Fullscreen Mode, I get the error:
CreateDevice failed
DX9AllocatorPresenter failed

0x8876086a

I'm running on a GeForce 9400. (Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H motherboard)

It seems to actually be working in D3D fullscreen mode, though I don't get any GUI, even with the option enabled.

I've tried updating my drivers and reinstalling DX9 without any luck.

[yesgrey]

What I am trying to do is to take a 24-bit 96khz 6 channel FLAC file and output it through SPDIF as an AC3 6 channel file (at 640k) to hear the 6 channel surround effects.
Have you tryed with reclock? It has an AC3 encoder incorporated. I don't know if it supports 96kHz, so give it a try...

Thanks for the documentation. Very clear.

[Mark_A_W]

As promised here are the documentation for the new settings.

Output RangeThis setting is used for specifying the OUTPUT range of the YUV to RGB transfrom.

0 - 255[INDENT]The output from the YUV transfrom is 0 to 255 in 8 bit or 0 to 1023 in 10 bit. This is the default and normally the best option for computer monitors and most TVs.

16 - 235The output from the YUV transfrom is 16 to 235 in 8 bit or 64 to 940 in 10 bit. This is the best option for some TV:s that expect the input signal at 16 to 235 levels.



Thank you Beliyaal.

In the Output section, could you add the expected Expansion behavior:


0 - 255The output from the YUV transfrom is 0 to 255 in 8 bit or 0 to 1023 in 10 bit. This is the default and normally the best option for computer monitors and most TVs.


Retains Black at 16, and White at 235 (requires adjustment to Displays Brightness control if mixing video and PC desktop content). BTB and WTW are passed intact.


16 - 235The output from the YUV transfrom is 16 to 235 in 8 bit or 64 to 940 in 10 bit. This is the best option for some TV:s that expect the input signal at 16 to 235 levels.


Expands Black from 16 to 0, and White from 235 to 255, clipping BTB and WTW, but allowing single black level for video and PC content. May exacerbate banding/posterisation.*



I might have that BACKWARDS!! Hence the need for the expanded explanation of expansion ;).


* The topic of debate, but banding is clearly visible in a smooth greyscale ramp that has been expanded, at least in my tests.
I always figure out which setting to use by trial and error, looking both and the black level moving around, and looking for banding in a greyscale. When my greyscale is clean, the black level will be higher than the desktop, and I know I have got my levels retained, which is how I want them.

[n00bleader]

I have a blurry bar in the bottom of the frame when I play any video using dxva, I've read a lot but couldn't find any solutions.

Also, is there a quality difference between ffdshow and mpc's decoder?

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 1090 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/741/1/)

Supported languages: BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

(1082-1090)
Fixed: compilation error in Belarusian translation;
Fixed: Extra (gray) pixels at bottom and right of video when decoding with DXVA removed;
Fixed: Bicubic resizer checker pattern when zooming;
Fixed: Tearing when subtitles are enabled possibly fixed;
Fixed: Bad render performance when coming back from other session / display settings changed / changing channel on TV / etc;
Update Belarussian translation;
Updated Spanish translation.

[Hypernova]

I got the strange vertical lines from EVR CP in SVN 1090 (same as Haali's renderer). Anyone else get them?

[Chumbo]

I have a blurry bar in the bottom of the frame when I play any video using dxva, I've read a lot but couldn't find any solutions.

Also, is there a quality difference between ffdshow and mpc's decoder?
I think turning on or off VMR Mixer mode may help? Sounds familiar.

As to quality, no one else's eyes can tell you what quality is best to YOU. So try them both and go with what YOU consider the better one.

[n00bleader]

I think turning on or off VMR Mixer mode may help? Sounds familiar.I think turning it on fixes it, buuuut...it makes it lag, including non-HD stuff

also, SD stuff gets displayed at the container resolution

This is all for VMR9

[ADude]

ffdshow also only supports 32/48kHz AC3 output.

That's okay, as long as I can tie the frequency converter output to the input of the AC3 encoder.

[Mike5]

Have you tryed with reclock? It has an AC3 encoder incorporated. I don't know if it supports 96kHz, so give it a try...

It doesn't. I need to downsample to 48KHz with ffdshow before giving the audio to ReClock, otherwise there is no sound.

[neoufo51]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 1090 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/741/1/)
I love this release so much.

[Phaser]

The bicubic resizer bug is not really fixed for me in build 1090. Checker pattern is larger now and appears even without zooming (in fullscreen).

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/438/img01e.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/438/img01e.jpg)


Another small thing I noticed since build 1050 is that jitter appears when using volume control. But everything else is great now...

[Hypernova]

The bicubic resizer bug is not really fixed for me in build 1090. Checker pattern is larger now and appears even without zooming (in fullscreen).

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/438/img01e.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/438/img01e.jpg)


Another small thing I noticed since build 1050 is that jitter appears when using volume control. But everything else is great now...

I'm seeing those as well. I'm pretty sure I didn't have that in 1089. Actually, 1089 x64 that I'm using right now don't have that at all.

[Casshern]

Hi Beliyaal,

still no luck with VC-1 Decoding and VMR9 Renderless - just gives audio with a black screen with V1090. One more interesting tidbit. The scenes which give a slight occasional judder (one repeated frame) with the inbuild DXVA engine and your render code, work perfectly if i use the cyberlink powerdvd 7.0 h264 decoder (also in DXVA mode). Either it initializes the card differently, so its just a little bit faster, or it does something else differently. This is reproducable switching between the two decoders. To bad it doesn't decode VC-1, but there is still hope left here!

regards,

Casshern

I have submitted some fixes to SVN. Check if they work in a SVN build later than or equal to 1089:

Extra (gray) pixels at bottom and right of video when decoding with DXVA removed.
Bicubic resizer checker pattern when zooming.
Tearing when subtitles are enabled possibly fixed.
Bad render performance when coming back from other session / display settings changed / changing channel on TV / etc.

[yesgrey]

I might have that BACKWARDS!! Hence the need for the expanded explanation of expansion ;).

Yes, you have it backwards. The 0-255 and 16-235 in the names are referring to the black and white position in RGB output.

[xiulet]

hi,
still remains a bug with Spanish language . Menu options--> tweaks is already not showing.

thank you so much.


adéu.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1093 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/742/1/)

Supported languages: BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

(1091-1093)
Fixed: Crash in VSync code in 64 bit version when locking the D3D device;
Fixed: Bicubic checker pattern broken when fixing zoomed checker pattern;
Fixed: Spanish translation error.

[xiulet]

ok with 1093 now is ok, thanks you.
how do i participate of translation to catalan language?

thank you.

:)

[Phaser]

The bicubic checker pattern bug is still there in svn 1093... Seems like fixing one thing breaks another.
I noticed that the bug appears only when using 3D surfaces, so maybe it has something to do with it. Also I'm curious if this happens on nVidia cards too, or it's an ATI related bug.

[thuan]

I'm on nvidia and the checker bug is there, too. It really shows when watching SD material on big screen.

[Hypernova]

I had the checker patttern on 1090, but with 1093 it's fixed. So maybe now it's Nvidia specific?

[ADude]

As promised here are the documentation for the new settings.
Accurate VSyncCan be used to disable accurate VSync. If accurate VSync is disabled CPU usage is slightly decreased, especially when alternative VSync is also disabled.

Alternative VSyncEnabling alternative VSync will bypass the default VSync built into D3D. This can often get rid of tearing issues and is the preferred mode of VSync if your hardware/drivers are compatible with it.
All of that post is good information, but I think you are so close to that project, you are forgetting that you need to define " Accurate VSync " and " Alternative VSync " and explain when and why it is needed. (And also, you need to specify how a user knows whether their hardware/drivers are compatible with it.)

Thanks!

[Steveo08]

Thanks for the documentation. My apologies if these are really basic questions. (I'm new to HTPC stuff)

I've searched, but can't find any relevant answers. When I enable D3D Fullscreen Mode, I get the error:
CreateDevice failed
DX9AllocatorPresenter failed

0x8876086a

I'm running on a GeForce 9400. (Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H motherboard)

It seems to actually be working in D3D fullscreen mode, though I don't get any GUI, even with the option enabled.

I've tried updating my drivers and reinstalling DX9 without any luck.



well i have the same problem like you, if i enable 10 bit rgb and d3d fullscreen mode.

i'm using vista 32bit and a 8600gt with the latest beta driver 185.81.

[Snowknight26]

Still get crashes/freezes on seek when trying to play interlaced content with DXVA with a 4850/4870 using Catalyst 9.4.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1094 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/743/1/)

Supported languages: BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

ADD: Indicator of the mode DXVA on status panel.

http://s53.radikal.ru/i140/0905/cb/7e133bcbed76t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s53.radikal.ru/i140/0905/cb/7e133bcbed76.png.html)http://s57.radikal.ru/i158/0905/b0/d3357b2c17e7t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s57.radikal.ru/i158/0905/b0/d3357b2c17e7.png.html)

[neoufo51]

Any chance the devs can change the indicator so that it works in this way instead?
DXVA not enabled displays: Playing

DXVA enabled displays: Playing [DXVA]

It's kind of annoying to see "DXVA: not using" on almost every video I play...

[neoufo51]

Also how about only displaying DXVA status for the formats that can actually use DXVA, H.264 and VC-1? It's strange to see the status on Xvid videos.
That's probably more coding than needed just for the status display. My option would take care of that too, anyway.

[Aleksoid1978]

Also how about only displaying DXVA status for the formats that can actually use DXVA, H.264 and VC-1? It's strange to see the status on Xvid videos.

When you press Ctrl+J on Xvid what you see ??? - DXVA not using ...

[Aleksoid1978]

Any chance the devs can change the indicator so that it works in this way instead?
DXVA not enabled displays: Playing

DXVA enabled displays: Playing [DXVA]


This is idea.

[tetsuo55]

Also how about only displaying DXVA status for the formats that can actually use DXVA, H.264 and VC-1? It's strange to see the status on Xvid videos.

Some hardware does support Divx(Xvid).

However since there is no DXVA support for that in MPC-HC your point still stands :)

[Casshern]

I would NOT make it an DXVA enabled/disabled display only. I would make it broader, displaying the decoder used (and if available DXVA info). This would not waste the space for a single bit of info: So it could read something like:
Decoding with FFDSHOW
Decoding with MPC Video Decoder (DXVA enabled)
Decoding with MPC Video Decoder (DXVA not used)
Decoding with Xvid

etc...


Some hardware does support Divx(Xvid).

However since there is no DXVA support for that in MPC-HC your point still stands :)

[neoufo51]

I would NOT make it an DXVA enabled/disabled display only. I would make it broader, displaying the decoder used (and if available DXVA info). This would not waste the space for a single bit of info: So it could read something like:
Decoding with FFDSHOW
Decoding with MPC Video Decoder (DXVA enabled)
Decoding with MPC Video Decoder (DXVA not used)
Decoding with Xvid

etc...
That's all very unnecessary. We know what decoder we are using, since after all, we enabled them in this first place.

[Phaser]

I would like to see in the status the video/audio FOURCC... Maybe something like this:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7096/mpcstatusl.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7096/mpcstatusl.jpg)

[avivahl]

I would like to see in the status the video/audio FOURCC... Maybe something like this:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7096/mpcstatusl.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7096/mpcstatusl.jpg)
+1. Looking slick.

[Mike5]

What is this (http://downloads.guru3d.com/Media-Player-Classic-Home-Cinema-1.2.1081.0-download-2174.html) ?

Is there a 1.2.1081.0 version of MPC-HC ???

[avivahl]

What is this (http://downloads.guru3d.com/Media-Player-Classic-Home-Cinema-1.2.1081.0-download-2174.html) ?

Is there a 1.2.1081.0 version of MPC-HC ???Probably a compilation of revision 1081.
Rev 1094 is already on XvidVideo.ru, so this is old... :P

[Mike5]

Ok, I assumed it was a new stable version, but didn't find it on sourceforge, so I was puzzled.

[SBeaver]

LPCM decoder still doesnt work correctly.
All mono LPCM tracks in m2ts containers I've tried so far are unplayable.
They slow down movie to half speed making it unwatchable.
Blurays I've tried are both criterion bluray releases.
This problem is the same as ffdshows decoder.

[fastplayer]

LPCM decoder still doesnt work correctly.
All mono LPCM tracks in m2ts containers I've tried so far are unplayable.
They slow down movie to half speed making it unwatchable.
Blurays I've tried are both criterion bluray releases.
This problem is the same as ffdshows decoder.
Even with ffdshow build 2936?

[SBeaver]

Even with ffdshow build 2936?

Yes it's the same.
This is really a pain since I have to demux all tracks, re-encode the lpcm to something else and then mux it back to be able to play it.

[Spec-Chum]

Any chance the devs can change the indicator so that it works in this way instead?
DXVA not enabled displays: Playing

DXVA enabled displays: Playing [DXVA]

It's kind of annoying to see "DXVA: not using" on almost every video I play...

Simplest way would just be:
Index: MainFrm.cpp
===================================================================
--- MainFrm.cpp (revision 1094)
+++ MainFrm.cpp (working copy)
@@ -2979,16 +2979,8 @@
if((!m_fAudioOnly) && (fs == State_Running))
{
CString DXVA_Text = GetDXVADecoderDescription();
- if((_T("Not using DXVA")==DXVA_Text) || (_T("Unknown")==DXVA_Text))
- {
- DXVA_Text = _T("Not using");
- }
- else
- {
- DXVA_Text = _T("On");
- }
- UI_Text+=_T(", DXVA : ");
- UI_Text+=DXVA_Text;
+ if(!(_T("Not using DXVA")==DXVA_Text) || (_T("Unknown")==DXVA_Text))
+ UI_Text += _T(" [DXVA]");
}
pCmdUI->SetText(UI_Text);
}

Patch here: http://pastebin.com/me884bc8

[Beliyaal]

Yes it's the same.
This is really a pain since I have to demux all tracks, re-encode the lpcm to something else and then mux it back to be able to play it.

Could you provide a sample?

[Casshern]

I disagree on multiple levels:
1) If i deselect a decoder in mpc, the merit system takes over and it is not clear which decoder windows chooses
2) There are other decoders than MPC's that use DXVA. For example i have the cyberlink h264 decoder on the preferred list, and that also uses DXVA if possible, but also falls back to CPU decoding if the stream is out of DXVA spec.
3) If one follows your reasoning all info is unneccessary as we all know which streams are DXVA compliant, which filters are choosen on merit and so on. Then one could also get rid of all other sources of information: filters menu, ctrl-j stats etc.

I think it is reasonable to display the filter that might/might not use DXVA (see 2). I personally am satisfied with the ctrl-j or the filters property pages that can also easily be accessed from mpcs menus - but somebody felt that additional DXVA info should be displayed even more prominantly. And if one thinks about redesigning the status window info - i think one should explore all possibilites.


That's all very unnecessary. We know what decoder we are using, since after all, we enabled them in this first place.

[SBeaver]

Could you provide a sample?

Here is a sample:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1xvbq0jg2jj

It's a 2sec cut of the movie.

[Casshern]

Hi,
with V1094 the internal dxva decoder does not work with h264 anymore Ie.g. the euro bd of Star Trek 1) when using vmr9 renderless, Win XP and ATI 2x00 boards. Its now the same as Vc-1 (which was broken starting right after the beliyaal merge at least with V1053) - it just gives a black screen (Beliyaals V25 is the last version where everything works - after that i only tried v1053, which does not work)

Now to the bright side: The cyberlink h264 decoder still works in DXVA mode in VMR9 renderless and the internal Vc1-DXVA decoder still works with EVR CP. Here i also noticed an improvement: now i can use the vsync options with an offset of 0 without any corruption, i do not even need flush GPU after present anymore (the other two GPU flush options are still required though). I also noticed there is a new "lock: xxxx ms" in the stats screen - i somehow think thats related. Care to comment Beliyaal?

I just hope Casimir fixes the internal DXVA decoders soon.

bye,

Casshern

Could you provide a sample?

[73ChargerFan]

DXVA stopped working on hidef h264 videos, sometime around v1060 I think.
720p videos play, but not my BD rips.
I downloaded 1043 & 1050 to test.

Windows XP MCE2005 SP3, ATI 4850, Cat9.3, VMR9 D3D fullscreen, internal splitter & decoder.

[Steveo08]

CreateDevice failed
DX9AllocatorPresenter failed

0x8876086a


well i have the same problem like you, if i enable 10 bit rgb and d3d fullscreen mode.

i'm using vista 32bit and a 8600gt with the latest beta driver 185.81.




does no one else have this problem?

10 bit rgb is only working for me without d3d fullscreen mode, but Beliyaal wrote it's only possible to get 10 rgb with d3d fullscreen mode.

if i set 10 bit rgb to my renderer settings and look during a movie under display stats it told me that i am using 10 bit rgb under settings.

so is it working for me without d3d fullscreen mode or not, i am not sure about that.

[Beliyaal]

CreateDevice failed
DX9AllocatorPresenter failed

0x8876086a







does no one else have this problem?

10 bit rgb is only working for me without d3d fullscreen mode, but Beliyaal wrote it's only possible to get 10 rgb with d3d fullscreen mode.

if i set 10 bit rgb to my renderer settings and look during a movie under display stats it told me that i am using 10 bit rgb under settings.

so is it working for me without d3d fullscreen mode or not, i am not sure about that.

Some parts of the pipeline should still be 10 bits without fullscreen mode. It might be that your drivers doesn't support 10 bit backbuffer in fullscreen mode (for flipping). I will look at making it work with some parts of the pipeline in 10 in fullscreen as well.

[Steveo08]

Some parts of the pipeline should still be 10 bits without fullscreen mode. It might be that your drivers doesn't support 10 bit backbuffer in fullscreen mode (for flipping). I will look at making it work with some parts of the pipeline in 10 in fullscreen as well.




so nvidia won't support it in there driver, because on my desktop-pc with a 8800gt won't work it too.

[mariner]

VMR9 (windowed), VMR9 Renderless, VMR7 Renderless not working with 1920x1080@60P video.

Greetings Casimir and Belilaay.

Tested these 1080@60P samples on XP3 with HD3650 AGP graphics. Only plays smoothly in VMR7 (windowed).

All renderers work in PotPlayer.

Appreciate if anyone can help. Many thanks and best regards.

Samples:
http://www.sanyo-dsc.com/products/lineup/dmx_hd2000/img/sample/movie_sample_hd2000_03.zip
http://www.sanyo-dsc.com/products/lineup/dmx_hd2000/img/sample/movie_sample_hd2000_01.zip
http://ckworks.sakura.ne.jp/data/xacti_hd2000_dogsample20090207_1_mp4.zip
http://88.191.20.67/video/akiba/SANYO_HD2000_1920x1080_60fps.zip