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appyton
16th March 2008, 07:48
mpc-hc r466 compiled by MSVC 2008:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99809586/mplayerc.zip.html
MPC-HC decoder
Nvidia 8600GT, vista, EVR: DXVA works! 720p; distortion with 1080p (even newer encodes)
No vobsub subtitle support
Cyberlink
EVR, vista, DXVA with both 720 and 1080p (newer encodes); no vobsub subtitle support.
Any alternatives to get subtitle support with DXVA? MPC-HC will load subtitles only in VMR9 / Haali, not in EVR.
Pheon
16th March 2008, 08:31
With r466 on Vista x64 with an 8600 M GT, I also got DXVA working! However, sometimes if I seek forward or backward, the video and subtitles will freeze but the audio continues. Seeking back or forward a few times gets the video and subtitles going again, but they freeze again after a bit. I also seem to have the same problem if I pause then resume the video. Even playing it without seeking or pausing, the video and subtitles freeze eventually.
Casimir666
16th March 2008, 09:06
MPC-HC decoder
Nvidia 8600GT, vista, EVR: DXVA works! 720p; distortion with 1080p (even newer encodes)
What do you mean by distortion? Wrong aspect ratio?
Any alternatives to get subtitle support with DXVA? MPC-HC will load subtitles only in VMR9 / Haali, not in EVR.
Subtitles do works with DXVA and Vista+EVR Custom, or XP+VMR9 renderless. Vobsub will never be compliant with DXVA it's not possible.
ACrowley
16th March 2008, 09:06
Can you upload the newest MPC VideoDecoder (mpcvideodec.ac)File please ?
Build 466 : Still Black Picture with Pan&Scan with all Renderer,Decoder/Format
thuan
16th March 2008, 09:20
Can someone with a Vista machine check my problem, please? To be honest, it's really weird.
Pheon
16th March 2008, 09:29
Can someone with a Vista machine check my problem, please? To be honest, it's really weird.
Hey, just noticed the same problem on vista x64. I hardly use the file open dialog so just went to check it out. However, in my case, beside "Media files (all types)" it also has (__dummy). It adds (__dummy) to all the other selectable file types also except for "All files." However, even selecting "All files", none of my files in any directory show up.
_xxl
16th March 2008, 10:41
New mpc-hc build(MSVC2008) r466:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99930935/mplayerc.zip.html
Casimir666
16th March 2008, 10:59
Can someone with a Vista machine check my problem, please? To be honest, it's really weird.
I confirm the problem : MS have remove something use by mpc in file open common control. Working on it
cca
16th March 2008, 11:16
I have a strange problem. I'm using Vista 64bit, together with an Nvidia Geforce 8800GTS. EVR Custom used to do automatic levels conversion TV->PC . After I installed Service Pack 1, EVR Custom no longer does that, black is dark grey, white is bright grey.
Another thing I noticed, the normal EVR is now doing automatic level conversion! I did not change any settings anywhere in windows or the drivers. Anyone else notice this?
Miryan
16th March 2008, 12:07
New mpc-hc build(MSVC2008) r466:
http://rapidshare.com/files/99930935/mplayerc.zip.html
mirrored here: http://dl2.usite.hu/player/Media.Player.Classic.Homecinema-1.1.0.2.466.zip
DeepBeepMeep
16th March 2008, 13:36
Same black screen with latest build on my 8600 GTS. Could it be a compatibility problem with DXVA1 since I am using XP?
I am 100% sure DXVA works with Cyberlink decoder since I have only 5% CPU usage to decode an AVC file.
3ngel
16th March 2008, 14:05
Has been resolved the "Can't initialize the application" message, due to non correctly statically linked libraries?
iwod
16th March 2008, 16:05
What are the chances of support H.264 HW acceleration in the forth coming Intel X4xxx GFX?
appyton
16th March 2008, 16:11
What do you mean by distortion? Wrong aspect ratio?
Subtitles do works with DXVA and Vista+EVR Custom, or XP+VMR9 renderless. Vobsub will never be compliant with DXVA it's not possible.
Distortion: not with aspect, but image is not clear with too many grains and garbled margins, like watching something in 'windows safe mode/ low resolution.
Will try some more files (newer encodes).
vlada
16th March 2008, 19:58
Sorry guys, I haven't been around for some time. Today I downloaded MPC-HC and tried out the DXVA feature. Well it somehow doesn't work for me. I have following issues and questions:
1) Playback is choppy. CPU is running only at about 5%. The video doesn't get out of sync, it rather looks to me as if some frames are dropped. Any movement isn't smooth.
2) The DXVA says H.264 bitmap decoder, no FGT. What does FGT mean?
3) PAFF interlaced H.264 is very distorted (missing and swapped lines etc. I can upload a sample from AVCHD camcorder, if somebody's interested.
4) If I want to use ffdshow as a postprocessing filter, then DXVA is turned off. Is this a general problem or can it be somehow fixed?
5) Can the DXVA code be ported to other projects, for example ffdshow or Windows versions of MPlayer and VLC?
Sorry if some of my questions are stupid or have been already answered before. As I already wrote, I haven't been around for some weeks and the thread is very long.
My configuration is following: CPU A64 3500+ (single core), ATI HD 2600XT, driver 7.11.
TheShadowRunner
16th March 2008, 20:04
4) If I want to use ffdshow as a postprocessing filter, then DXVA is turned off. Is this a general problem or can it be somehow fixed?
As soon as a filter is inserted between the video decoder and the renderer (like vsfilter or ffdshow raw), it breaks DXVA. There 's nothing that can be done about it.
It's because of the bad design of DXVA by microsoft.
Later,
TSR
_xxl
16th March 2008, 20:22
mpc-hc r.467:
http://www.dump.ro/download.php?file=mplayerc.zip&id=MjNjODRmMWQzOTJkMTQ1M2I3YTFlMzgwYmQ2YWNkMGE=&download=true
Casimir666
16th March 2008, 20:37
2) The DXVA says H.264 bitmap decoder, no FGT. What does FGT mean?
It's an acronym for "Film Grain Technology", and i think it's to mimic film defaults...
3) PAFF interlaced H.264 is very distorted (missing and swapped lines etc. I can upload a sample from AVCHD camcorder, if somebody's interested.
If you have a small sample i'm interested :)
5) Can the DXVA code be ported to other projects, for example ffdshow or Windows versions of MPlayer and VLC?
It's theoretically possible to do postprocessing with DXVA2 (this mean for Vista only), but modifying ffdshow for this is a huge piece of works.
wyrd
16th March 2008, 20:52
1) Playback is choppy. CPU is running only at about 5%. The video doesn't get out of sync, it rather looks to me as if some frames are dropped. Any movement isn't smooth.
It depends on your file.
(levels,ref frames,resolution,etc,etc...)
if you want further information then see here.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=132924
mpc-hc r.467:
http://www.dump.ro/download.php?file=mplayerc.zip&id=MjNjODRmMWQzOTJkMTQ1M2I3YTFlMzgwYmQ2YWNkMGE=&download=true
Thanks for your efforts. mirrored (http://tirnanog.fate.jp/mirror/Misc%20(not%20by%20celtic_druid)/MPC-Homecinema%20SVN/)
ADude
16th March 2008, 21:30
Do any of the new versions fix the DVD problem ?
sheppaul
16th March 2008, 21:38
It's because of the bad design of DXVA by microsoft.
It's the nature of video acceleration driven by hardware.
Tery
16th March 2008, 23:24
Hi,
I don't know if it's already been said but I can't play a DVD, with external subtitle .srt, the subtitle is blinking sometimes but nothing readable, using EVR (custom or not), nor using haali renderer, it is only working using VMR9.
I have tried with MPC HC 1.0.11, 1.1.0.2 r460 et r467, and with internal MPEG2-Video Filter or NVIDIA MPEG2 CODEC.
Can someone confirm the problem or point me where I'm wrong ?
I also can't save subtitle after changing the delay using F1 / F2, when I try to save subtitle it says "attempted an unsupported operation", am I doing wrong or it a problem ? (tried using 1.1.0.2. r467)
Tery.
PS : forceware 169.44 / 8800GT
clsid
17th March 2008, 01:11
I also can't save subtitle after changing the delay using F1 / F2, when I try to save subtitle it says "attempted an unsupported operation", am I doing wrong or it a problem ? (tried using 1.1.0.2. r467)Using F1/F2 does not change the subtitle file itself. So saving would be pointless. Although that doesn't mean that it should give an error. So it is still a bug.
Rectal Prolapse
17th March 2008, 07:06
Hi, is there a quick guide to compiling the MPC-HC sources? I've already checked out the build from SourceForge, and have followed the old MPC compiling guide from here:
http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=Guliverkli
But unfortunately this doesn't work at all for MPC-HC!
I am using the Microsoft Vista SDK (latest one). THis is the error I get when compiling mplayerc.cpp:
56>mplayerc.cpp
56>TmSchema.h is obsolete. Please include vssym32.h instead.
56>d:\projects\mpc-hc\trunk\src\apps\mplayerc\struct.h(56) : error C2011: '_RTL_USER_PROCESS_PARAMETERS' : 'struct' type redefinition
56> c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\winternl.h(125) : see declaration of '_RTL_USER_PROCESS_PARAMETERS'
56>d:\projects\mpc-hc\trunk\src\apps\mplayerc\struct.h(104) : error C2011: '_PEB_LDR_DATA' : 'struct' type redefinition
56> c:\program files\microsoft sdks\windows\v6.1\include\winternl.h(103) : see declaration of '_PEB_LDR_DATA'
What is required, and what order should the include directories be? I'm using Microsoft Visual Studio 2005.
I would like to work on adding blu-ray subtitle displays to MPC's subtitle renderer...
Thanks in advance!
_xxl
17th March 2008, 07:14
I am using the Microsoft Vista SDK (latest one).
Doesn't work!You need Windows SDK 6.0a, not 6.1.And for MSVC 2008 you need ATL Server Library from: http://www.codeplex.com/AtlServer/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=3754
JimmyZ
17th March 2008, 11:17
i've just built a HD2400 system as a HTPC, MPC-HC with DXVA works great! thank you all for this precious piece of work :)
KoD
17th March 2008, 15:23
DXVA acceleration for h264 is no longer exclusive to DXVA 2.0 (read Vista). Microsoft has published new extensions to DXVA 1.0 regarding h264 hardware acceleration.
This means, don't be surprised if you see h264 hardware acceleration on WinXP using other video renderers than EVR/VMR9, as soon as video card manufacturers implement them in drivers (the restriction to VMR9 seemed artificial, anyway).
The specs (for both DXVA 1.0 and DXVA 2.0) are publicly available on Microsoft's website (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3d1c290b-310b-4ea2-bf76-714063a6d7a6&DisplayLang=en). The doc is very useful as it goes in depth explaining interfaces and their use, but seems to require quite a lot of knowledge of the h264 video format.
Edit: because I know this issue is going to be raised. If your video card is not one of those that were built with h264 decoding support, don't expect it will be magically able to do it now.
nurbs
17th March 2008, 17:27
What are the chances of support H.264 HW acceleration in the forth coming Intel X4xxx GFX?
If wikipedia is right all but the GL40 will support hardware acceleration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#Table_of_GMA_graphics_cores_and_chipsets
Casimir666
17th March 2008, 19:18
This means, don't be surprised if you see h264 hardware acceleration on WinXP using other video renderers than EVR/VMR9, as soon as video card manufacturers implement them in drivers (the restriction to VMR9 seemed artificial, anyway).
You are partially right, DXVA2 do works on XP sometimes :
- XP+ATI+VMR+VC1 : Ok
- XP+ATI+VMR+H264 : Ok
- XP+ATI+EVR+VC1 : OK
- XP+ATI+EVR+H264 : don't works
I have deliberably omit to say VC1 works with EVR+XP in my how-to because it's complicated enough to make DXVA works :devil:
Same tests with Vista :
- Vista+ATI+VMR+VC1 : don't works
- Vista+ATI+VMR+H264 : don't works
- Vista+ATI+EVR+VC1 : Ok
- Vista+ATI+EVR+H264 : Ok
So my conclusion is that DXVA2 is limited by graphic card drivers on XP. It would be interesting to try XP+EVR+nVidia+H264 to see if it's working or not ;)
rack04
17th March 2008, 19:21
What about Nvidia? Is it more or less limited?
Rectal Prolapse
17th March 2008, 19:43
Thanks XXL - I'm having a tough time finding Windows SDK 6.0a though - I found 6.0 from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ff6467e6-5bba-4bf5-b562-9199be864d29&displaylang=en&
But, as per usual Microsoft practice, they like to shuffle files around and even delete them! :(
Rectal Prolapse
17th March 2008, 20:20
Ok I solved my problem - I installed Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Express and now have a 6.0a directory!
http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/#webInstall
TheShadowRunner
17th March 2008, 20:48
It would be interesting to try XP+EVR+nVidia+H264 to see if it's working or not ;)
I tested it. XP SP2/ Geforce 8500GT/ Cyberlink/ EVR.
This gives a black screen. The audio plays for a few seconds then everything freezes.
The same test just changing the renderer to VMR9 works perfect.
edit: i'm using 169.44. I'd be very surprised if nvidia implemented EVR support for XP in the future.
The Hooded One
17th March 2008, 21:55
Moved to a new topic, because mine didn't specifically deal with DXVA. Sorry!
Casimir666
17th March 2008, 22:20
This gives a black screen. The audio plays for a few seconds then everything freezes.
Black screen is strange (should have use software decoder). Can you post the property page for EVR input pin? What is the DXVA status displayed in video decoder property page?
P.S : this topic is not for DXVA only ;)
TheShadowRunner
17th March 2008, 22:33
Black screen is strange (should have use software decoder). Can you post the property page for EVR input pin? What is the DXVA status displayed in video decoder property page?
P.S : this topic is not for DXVA only ;)
Oh.. I use Zoom Player, I was just talking about general EVR+DXVA support under XP.
I'm pretty sure those questions you asked were about the results under MPC ^^;;
If not, with ZP, i have:
----------------------------
EVR Input0
Connected to : Pin "Video Out" on Filter "CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD7.x)"
Major Type: Video - Sub Type: UnKnown {3231564E-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} Format: VideoInfo2 DXVA 1280X528, 12 bits
----------------------------
Also, cyberlink DXVA status is ON.(can't alter color settings on prop page, this is my way to check if dxva is ON or OFF)
Emp3r0r
18th March 2008, 04:23
I'm also getting the black screen (which first appeard as a green screen). Here is my pin info:
Filter : MPC Video Decoder - CLSID : {008BAC12-FBAF-497B-9670-BC6F6FBAE2C4}
- Connected to:
CLSID: {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}
Filter: D:\HD\My.Home.Video.REMUX.H264.1080p.LPCM.DD51\My.Home.Video.REMUX.H264.1080p.LPC\
Pin: Video
- Connection media type:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 23.98fps
AM_MEDIA_TYPE:
majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
subtype: Unknown GUID Name {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}
formattype: FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO {E06D80E3-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA}
bFixedSizeSamples: 0
bTemporalCompression: 0
lSampleSize: 1
cbFormat: 182
VIDEOINFOHEADER:
rcSource: (0,0)-(0,0)
rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0)
dwBitRate: 0
dwBitErrorRate: 0
AvgTimePerFrame: 417083
VIDEOINFOHEADER2:
dwInterlaceFlags: 0x00000000
dwCopyProtectFlags: 0x00000000
dwPictAspectRatioX: 16
dwPictAspectRatioY: 9
dwControlFlags: 0x00000000
dwReserved2: 0x00000000
MPEG2VIDEOINFO:
dwStartTimeCode: 0
cbSequenceHeader: 50
dwProfile: 0x00000064
dwLevel: 0x00000029
dwFlags: 0x00000004
BITMAPINFOHEADER:
biSize: 40
biWidth: 1920
biHeight: 1080
biPlanes: 1
biBitCount: 24
biCompression: avc1
biSizeImage: 0
biXPelsPerMeter: 1
biYPelsPerMeter: 1
biClrUsed: 0
biClrImportant: 0
pbFormat:
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I have Vista x64 but I'm using 32 bit software/codecs. I have an 8600GT.
http://jvance.com/img/forum/dxva2.png
ADude
18th March 2008, 20:20
I just upgraded to Vista SP1 (downloaded from Microsoft Download Center) and no problems whatsoever. Definitely a lot faster, the lag in opening a folder has gone.
MPC-HC still working fine.
Still using the previous MPC-HC stable version due to DVD playback not working with the current version. I am NOT using the Microsoft MPEG2 decoder. (It would be nice to know whether I will ever be able to upgrade past the October 2007 stable version, but there has been complete silence on this DVD playback issue, despite two different users encountering the problem.)
vlada
18th March 2008, 22:06
Hello,
I realized that the problem with choppy playback of my 720p videos will disappear if I disable VMR9 mixer mode. Do you have any idea why? In fact what is the VMR9 mixer mode good for? Do I need it?
Also I reported some samples which cause serious problems. The first one is from a Panasonic AVCHD camcorder, the second one is from a Czech HDTV broadcasting. They can be downloaded here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/03e808/ (14MB, HDTV sample, crashes MPC)
http://www.filefactory.com/file/b399ec/ (7MB, AVCHD, distorted)
Both files can be opened correctly with DGAVCDec.
Rectal Prolapse
18th March 2008, 22:11
Sorry for the dumb questions again - I'm having trouble getting MPC-HC to link:
1>------ Build started: Project: mplayerc, Configuration: Release Unicode Win32 ------
1>Linking...
1>LINK : warning LNK4199: /DELAYLOAD:msimg32.dll ignored; no imports found from msimg32.dll
1>EVRAllocatorPresenter.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMFVideoRenderer
1>FGManager.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMFVideoMixerBitmap
1>FGManager.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMFVideoDisplayControl
1>Release Unicode\mplayerc.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 3 unresolved externals
I even tried forcing the use of evr.lib in the linker input but that didn't work. I'm using the Windows SDK 6.0a. I can get everything to compiler, but the last step, linking, isn't working for me.
Additional SDKs installed:
Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2
Microsoft DirectX SDK (April 2006)
Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0
Microsoft Visual Studio 8
Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition - ENU Service Pack 1 (KB926601)
Again, thanks for your time - once I get things working I promise to write a guide on how to compile MPC-HC!
Casimir666
18th March 2008, 23:38
Sorry for the dumb questions again - I'm having trouble getting MPC-HC to link:
1>------ Build started: Project: mplayerc, Configuration: Release Unicode Win32 ------
1>Linking...
1>LINK : warning LNK4199: /DELAYLOAD:msimg32.dll ignored; no imports found from msimg32.dll
1>EVRAllocatorPresenter.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMFVideoRenderer
1>FGManager.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMFVideoMixerBitmap
1>FGManager.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _IID_IMFVideoDisplayControl
1>Release Unicode\mplayerc.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 3 unresolved externals
I think you have forget to set this path in VS lib folder :
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0\Lib
@ADude
I have already answered : will be fixed when i had time for it please be patient :)
ADude
19th March 2008, 01:08
@ADude
I have already answered : will be fixed when i had time for it please be patient :)
I don't mind waiting and using the previous stable version 1.0.11.0, it is working fine. I just was looking for some reply.
Perhaps you meant to reply and forgot - the only reply you gave was:EVR custom and Microsoft Mpeg2 decoder are not compatibles at the moment. The fix for this problem have been removed from release 1.1 final because it cause more problems that it solve.
Official release 1.0.11.0 also have this bug, only some intermediate versions present on this thread haven't.
that doesn't apply to this case - because I am not using Microsoft MPEG2 decoder and I am using Official release 1.0.11.0
That is why I restated the question.
Rectal Prolapse
19th March 2008, 01:29
I think you have forget to set this path in VS lib folder :
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0\Lib
Thanks for the quick reply - unfortunately, I have
C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v6.0A\Lib
and it seems the v6.0\lib (non-A) doesn't exist anymore - when I installed Visual Studio 2008 Express it may have deleted the v6.0 one. Are you sure you meant v6.0 and not v6.0A?
BTW, there is an evr.lib file: 7.38 KB (7,558 bytes). I suspect this is where those missing symbols should be...
Rectal Prolapse
19th March 2008, 02:16
Hmmm. I think I figured it out - the VS2005 project file for MPC-HC is missing a reference to strmiids.lib in the linker input!
Ugh - that took some heavy googling around to figure it out - MSDN at least referenced the library name. What a mess.
ANyways, thanks for the hint casimir. :)
flanger216
19th March 2008, 05:09
Still getting garbled green-screens with 1080p content on my 8600GT using the latest build.
Casimir666
19th March 2008, 08:00
I don't mind waiting and using the previous stable version 1.0.11.0, it is working fine. I just was looking for some reply.
Perhaps you meant to reply and forgot - the only reply you gave was:
that doesn't apply to this case - because I am not using Microsoft MPEG2 decoder and I am using Official release 1.0.11.0
That is why I restated the question.
It's not specific to Microsoft Mpeg2, and affect Cyberlink decoder too. DVD playback works fine with nVidia decoder in latest version.
B4TCH
19th March 2008, 17:20
Hey, i'm new to all this. I've got a few 1080p X.264 videos within the MKV container. I'm currently playing them in Windows Media Player, using Haali and Cyberlink X.264 codec, however even my 2.2ghz C2D is struggling. I also have a Nvidia 8600GT, so i'd like to try hardwareacceleration but don't know where to start.
Could someone please let me know what steps to take, what software/codecs to download and use, etc.
Many Thanks
Batch
Moondust
19th March 2008, 20:15
Still getting garbled green-screens with 1080p content on my 8600GT using the latest build.
Green distortion? Sounds like your HDMI/DVI cable is too long? What's the length? See any pink distortion as well?
Moondust
19th March 2008, 21:04
I realized that the problem with choppy playback of my 720p videos will disappear if I disable VMR9 mixer mode. Do you have any idea why? In fact what is the VMR9 mixer mode good for? Do I need it?
Experiencing the same here. I think the mixer mode is supposed to offload certain parts of the process or smt. Fact is that the picture is choppy when turned on and smooth when turned off. I am a happy man.
Scoty
19th March 2008, 23:06
i need a german language file for mpc-hc 1.1.0.2 please.
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