Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[Sylt]

The current MPC-HC Authors.txt (http://mpc-hc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mpc-hc/trunk/docs/Authors.txt?revision=4563&view=markup&pathrev=4563)file says, that Aleksoid is an inactive developer, although Aleksoid's last SVN Commit was 4563.

[vBm]

Is anyone willing to work on mini webui ?
We need something that'll work properly on all mobile platforms, so we can have proper 'remote control' for those of us who doesn't have real remote controller.

Also we need someone that'll work on website.

[wanezhiling]

http://p.gokuai.com/index.php?m=Index&a=file&file=294W87X11cRGeO14
MPC-HC 1.6.2.4568 failed, LAV Splitter is ok.


http://p.gokuai.com/index.php?m=Index&a=file&file=8235TTG6KeZC3728
Would MPC-HC support Apple ProRes?

[Aleksoid1978]

http://p.gokuai.com/index.php?m=Index&a=file&file=294W87X11cRGeO14
MPC-HC 1.6.2.4568 failed, LAV Splitter is ok.


https://rapidshare.com/files/2215177899/mpc-be.20120503.7z

[mr.duck]

https://rapidshare.com/files/2215177899/mpc-be.20120503.7z

Try making new thread for MPC-BE.

[boyumeow]

Try making new thread for MPC-BE.

He is using mpc-be more like alpha test, whatever that works well will be ported to mpc-hc, so please stop asking him to make new thread. Thanks.

[wanezhiling]

https://rapidshare.com/files/2215177899/mpc-be.20120503.7z

Works. :thanks:

[Aleksoid1978]

wanezhiling, MSL_DK
try this https://rapidshare.com/files/3655567694/mpc-be.PGS_20120305.7z

[wanezhiling]

wanezhiling, MSL_DK
try this https://rapidshare.com/files/3655567694/mpc-be.PGS_20120305.7z
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1549389&postcount=18701
:) Now it's good. Many thanks.

[fad]

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[bozek]

This may be already known, but I'm gonna say it anyway, just in case. Try watching harry potter ultimate Blu-ray Disc (double-click index.bdmv) and then jump to some extended scene and you'll see that the audio if completely off. Though I dont care as I never watch BDs in MPC-HC... just thought you might wanna know.

Btw, what is the status of the BE mod? The last time I visited this forum there was some talk about incorporating it in the main SVN so I'm assuming that didnt happen? And why arent there any new builds on xvidvideo.ru or is there another web where BE builds are published now?

[Mercury_22]

This may be already known, but I'm gonna say it anyway, just in case. Try watching harry potter ultimate Blu-ray Disc (double-click index.bdmv) and then jump to some extended scene and you'll see that the audio if completely off. Though I dont care as I never watch BDs in MPC-HC... just thought you might wanna know.

Btw, what is the status of the BE mod? The last time I visited this forum there was some talk about incorporating it in the main SVN so I'm assuming that didnt happen? And why arent there any new builds on xvidvideo.ru or is there another web where BE builds are published now?
Try this MPC-BE.0.1.0.72.x64.exe (http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/75875088/file.html) MPC-BE.0.1.0.72.x86 (http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/23953802/file.html)
With this settings :DWindows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MPC-BE\Settings]
"ThemeBrightness"=dword:00000016
"ThemeRed"=dword:000000aa
"ThemeGreen"=dword:000000aa
"ThemeBlue"=dword:000000aa
"Toolbar clrFace(ABGR)"=dword:00000000
"Toolbar clrOutline(ABGR)"=dword:00808080
"LogoID2"=dword:000000d0

[Lord Maius]

Try this MPC-BE.0.1.0.72.x64.exe (http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/75875088/file.html) MPC-BE.0.1.0.72.x86 (http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/23953802/file.html)
With this settings :DWindows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MPC-BE\Settings]
"ThemeBrightness"=dword:00000016
"ThemeRed"=dword:000000aa
"ThemeGreen"=dword:000000aa
"ThemeBlue"=dword:000000aa
"Toolbar clrFace(ABGR)"=dword:00000000
"Toolbar clrOutline(ABGR)"=dword:00808080
"LogoID2"=dword:000000d0


Is there an MPC BE official site?

[Kinjal]

>Is there an MPC BE official site?
Not yet. Wait until official MPC-BE alpha arrive. Also when it became publicly available, official Doom9 thread will be created.

[Mercury_22]

Is there an MPC BE official site?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/

[Lord Maius]

Ok,Thanks!

[Kinjal]

>https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/
It's actually not official web-site, we use SF just for "downloads center".

[JEEB]

Btw, what is the status of the BE mod? The last time I visited this forum there was some talk about incorporating it in the main SVN so I'm assuming that didnt happen? And why arent there any new builds on xvidvideo.ru or is there another web where BE builds are published now?
On the whole, I don't think the general way of "We will work with people to see if we can merge useful modifications." has changed at all regarding this.

As far as I have seen, there just were problems with getting up-to-date patchsets of the BE mod, and then the gotten user interface changeset usually was one big lump o' code when it came up to be reviewed. The general dislike of certain people towards the general discussion medium of choice for most of the developers certainly didn't make this easier. Then we get to the changes in the BE mod that were actually useful by fixing things and/or making things work better, and not related to the user interface changes. And, as far as I heard and as far I had seen, no available changesets (feel free to derp at me if this is incorrect).

Then, as of late, the developers of the BE modification, for various reasons of their own, decided to fork MPC-HC completely to be a separate project (MPC-BE). The positive thing about this is that we now should have access to their current source code, unlike earlier -- and actually have commits to look at instead of a single diff or a source code archive (of course the commit messages are in Russian, and this is a slight obstacle for people wanting to read changelogs, but still a positive change compared to what we used to have -- also the GUI stuff still seems to be more or less one big change or so).

One of the BE developers is an MPC-HC developer as well, and can put things up on the table on both the MPC-HC side as well as on the BE side. If, for whatever reason, this does not happen -- some MPC-HC developers do see the BE changelog, and if they find useful things, they can be backported. This is not perfect, but "better than nothing at all."

tl;dr: Not that much has changed in the end, although some people seem to be quite herping a derp about BE becoming a "project of its own" in certain ways.

And as a random almost-unrelated comment, if one thing -- I do dislike losing the general history of the project, which was already once lost when MPC was forked by Casimir to bring up MPC-HC, which pretty much stops one from going far enough in the 'blame' command of various revision control tools to see the origination of some change (although to be honest, this kind of information already gets lost with SVN when changes from branches get merged in one huge commit, and thus you have no idea why the change was made back then). This just happened to me some time ago, looking at a completely unused code path around the rendering code, and not having the originator of the code around any more.

[kasper93]

The positive thing about this is that we now should have access to their current source code(...) But unfortunately we don't have access to their current source code :( Public SVN repository is at r72 and builds posted in this thread are r126, so obviously something is wrong here, 'open source' project should not be developed behind closed doors, don't you think?

[Kinjal]

kasper93:
Well, we have VirtualDub, which is also open-source project without public svn, but source code released every time new version become public available.

[JEEB]

kasper93:
Well, we have VirtualDub, which is also open-source project without public svn, but source code released every time new version become public available.
Indeed, it is fine as long as the source code is available for binaries that are released (which is the case as you can see from the VirtualDub's download page). An open repository just makes it easier to note separate changes as well as provide that source code, which is why most open source projects also have public source code repositories :) .

What kasper seems to be mentioning is that we seemingly do not have access to the source code for a binary which seems to be a certain amount of revisions "further down the road" (for which the source code would normally be available from the project's source code repository).

[bozek]

@Mercury_22: thx for the link! I'll keep an eye out on the Files section...

@JEEB: thx for the insight - really appreciated

Incidentally, if anyone was interested why I prefer the BE mod over the MPC-HC, then here's why (in reverse order of importance):

3. custom icons according to file-type
2. this setting (http://oi45.tinypic.com/2cy1oqc.jpg)
1. and last but not least, the GUI of course. mine looks like this...
http://oi45.tinypic.com/11j9r4i.jpg

[Anarchitektur]

uh, this looks great
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/screenshots/7bb168af9fad34233edc42cc50c4cb81.jpg
MPC-HC/BE :devil: with GUI, cant wait

[nuhkka]

is there a way you guys can move the sound button from the control bar to the status bar?

http://i.imgur.com/ZzRXX.jpg

maybe add it to the left side of the playing time? also the filename beside the status?

[Midzuki]

is there a way you guys can move the sound button from the control bar to the status bar?

< SNIPP very-ugly DBZ pic >

maybe add it to the left side of the playing time? also the filename beside the status?

MPC-HC has a button bar already, so why not use it? :)

[Lord Maius]

uh, this looks great
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/screenshots/7bb168af9fad34233edc42cc50c4cb81.jpg
MPC-HC/BE :devil: with GUI, cant wait

Amazing!!

[cengizhan]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpcbe/screenshots/7bb168af9fad34233edc42cc50c4cb81.jpg

I hope that this will not become mpc-hc. It is uglier than mpc-hc.

[vBm]

I hope that this will not become mpc-hc. It is uglier than mpc-hc. Amen brother xD

[Anarchitektur]

I hope that this will not become mpc-hc. It is uglier than mpc-hc.

Indeed, Mickey is much more uglier than before, skin is on the contrary, amazing

all things tweakable, u can not chose skin and default GUI is from win98, please...
:readrule:

[roytam1]

I hope that this will not become mpc-hc. It is uglier than mpc-hc.

I just hope that they should remove the "C" in their name as it is not "Classic" anymore. :devil:

[FDisk80]

i just hope that they should remove the "c" in their name as it is not "classic" anymore. :devil:

mphc


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[Anarchitektur]

c for classy

[pirlouy]

I think a lot of people are afraid by losing 1MB for RAM and 0.01% for CPU, but if it's well-conceived, you will just lose some RAM, and a bit of CPU at start. Nothing to worry about except when you are obsessed by your task manager.

I'm ok with MPC-HC but if it had a new skin (with useful information like codecs) for window version, it could be nice... For Full Screen, there's no need for a new interface, I think it has to be the one from renderer (the seekbar from MadVR is great and enough).

[Jong]

So I read today that Windows 8 will no longer support DVD playback. Does this mean mpc-hc loses its DVD Navigator ( outdated and buggy as it is )?

[nevcairiel]

Its not "its" DVD Navigator, its the one that comes with Windows. I'll agree on buggy, but Outdated - well i suppose, but so is the medium.
Anyway, we won't know if the DVD Navigator will be included unless someone goes and checks!

[Jong]

That was my point. Although mpc-hc can use all kinds of other filters for decoding it has always used the Windows DVD Navigator and now it "seems" it will not be in Windows 8, if this (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/04/windows_media_dvd_playback_dead/)is to be believed.

[ageback]

S.Chinese update to rev.4587
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132862/mplayerc.sc.rc.txt

[Hypernova]

I think a lot of people are afraid by losing 1MB for RAM and 0.01% for CPU, but if it's well-conceived, you will just lose some RAM, and a bit of CPU at start. Nothing to worry about except when you are obsessed by your task manager.

I'm ok with MPC-HC but if it had a new skin (with useful information like codecs) for window version, it could be nice... For Full Screen, there's no need for a new interface, I think it has to be the one from renderer (the seekbar from MadVR is great and enough).

About the seekbar, I still wish that one of the free players will add the preview-on-hover. I found it ironic that YouTube has it before any native players. Well, at least Splash player has it before but it's not free. Of course, I understand it's not easy to add, so I'm not put too much hope on it.

And despite the fact that madVR is my choice of renderer, the style of its seekbar is not my favorite. But that's for another topic.

[pulbitz]

Does MPC-HC H.264 DXVA decoder on Intel HD 2000 process deblocking?
I'm seeing artifacts when using it.
Other DXVA decoders is OK. (MS DTV-DVD, LAV, PotPlayer)

[Octo-puss]

So I read today that Windows 8 will no longer support DVD playback. Does this mean mpc-hc loses its DVD Navigator ( outdated and buggy as it is )?
No-one in his right mind will even THINK about using Windows 8, so I am not worried about that at all.

[god_md5]

mpc-hc
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3668343/22.jpg

vlc
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3668343/23.jpg
thank you add dvb Subtitle support

[Amour]

No-one in his right mind will even THINK about using Windows 8, so I am not worried about that at all.
Disagree.

[ryrynz]

I was going to say the same thing, then I thought it best not to feed it.

[Amour]

With MPC-HC x64 1.6.2.4360, the following MPEG1 video has issues with seeking. When you seek to a different position, the sound is fine but the picture is frozen. Seeking works fine with VLC:
http://directmirror.com/files/16WPSRUM

[Underground78]

Are you sure the internal filters are used? They are normally disabled for MPEG1 so it may be unrelated with MPC-HC.

[Amour]

I always use all internal filters. But when I hover my mouse on MPEG1, I have a message saying it's buggy. Maybe someone could look into it?
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7059/mpeg1bug.jpg

[Amour]

MPC-HC's MPEG1 filter is buggy with libmpeg2.
VLC's MPEG1 filter is not buggy with libmpeg2.

From: http://libmpeg2.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/libmpeg2/mpeg2dec/ChangeLog?view=markup
We have:
mpeg2dec-0.3.1 Fri Dec 13 22:15:36 PST 2002
mpeg2dec-0.4.0 Tue Dec 23 03:04:35 PST 2003

From: http://svn.videolan.org/filedetails.php?repname=libmpeg2&path=%2Ftrunk%2FChangeLog
We have:
mpeg2dec-0.4.1 Wed Feb 15 17:08:28 CET 2006
libmpeg2-0.5.0 Fri Jun 11 23:42:12 CET 2008
libmpeg2-0.5.1 Fri Jul 18 16:28:49 CEST 2008

From: http://mpc-hc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mpc-hc/trunk/src/filters/transform/Mpeg2DecFilter/libmpeg2.h?revision=4602&view=markup
We have:
#define MPEG2_RELEASE MPEG2_VERSION (0, 3, 2) /* 0.3.2 */

[Underground78]

Are you sure the internal filters are really used in this case (check Play --> Filters)? I think MPEG1 decoding is disabled except for debug builds.

[Amour]

Yes, sure. And as a proof:
1) I provided a video sample above (7 Mb only)
2) If I uncheck the MPEG-1 Video internal filter, the seeking works fine.

[Amour]

I compared the revisions of MPC-HC and VLC regarding libmpeg2:
* we have common code from middle of August 2003. It was libmpeg2 0.3.1. The code was in C and split in small files.
* VLC: they became the official host for libmpeg2 and they now host version 0.5.1. Changes were made by walken, sammy and massiot. The code is in C and split in small files.
* MPC-HC: they numbered their fork 0.3.2. Changes were made by casimir666, drevil_xxl, Spec-chum, xhmikosr, kinddragon and Aleksoid. The code is in C++ with some ASM and merged in big files.

So it's not easy to diff those two 8-9 years-old branches and see what change they made that we could apply to fix the seeking in MPEG1.