Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[amigenius]

Hi,

I can confirm the !!RANDOM!! DXVA errors with MPC-HC.
They occur regardless if i use the Cyberlink (in DXVA Mode) or the MPC DXVA Video decoder.

You can somewhat manipulate the occurance of these errors, if you play with the vsync position of reclock or the vsync position of the custom evr renderer of mpc.

The DXVA errors NEVER occur if i use PowerDVD or TMT3 (which are using Overlay for Blurays).

I think that there is a problem with a buffer that's, if the timing is bad, cleared/written to early, so that the following frames are corrupted until an i-frame (the WHOLE screen is rendered new) is rendered.

cya


My Systemspecs:

ATI 5970 Catalyst 10.4a/10.5
Core i7 920
Vista 64 bit SP2
MPC-HC uses EVR custom Presenter (tried changing all parameters like desktop composition/vsync pos etc, but no luck :( )

[edigee]

From what people said the DXVA problems in MPC-HC occur especially with 64bit. OP , HD5xxx series cards and ATI drivers 10.4,10.5 and 10.6.

[(*|*)]

feature request: tag editor

[B.F.]

mpeg2 software deinterlacer - work only in blend mode, bob and ELA not working.

[WonderCsabo]

Hi guys!

I tried this MPC Audio renderer (WASAPI).

With my laptop it only works when i set everything to 16 bit. The sound is good, but when i pause, audio fouls, reapating a little period. Audio Card: IDT 92HD71B (dell inspiron 1545)

I use Win7 x64 with latest beta MPC-HC x64 on machines. The x86 MPC-HC produces this bugs, too.

Every help is much appreciated!

No suggestionts?

A guy from an other forum has the same problem with Realtek ALC 889A as I have with my laptop.

[adam777]

Hello all,
I've got a weird problem that I think I managed to track back to MPC-HC.
It seems that with some MKV files MPC-HC will crash on launch, supposedly because of FFDShow:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: mpc-hc.exe
Application Version: 1.3.2061.0
Application Timestamp: 4c1d363e
Fault Module Name: ffdshow.ax
Fault Module Version: 1.1.3477.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4c18f0da
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000226ad
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

However, using the exact same rendering chain in GraphStudio, I have no problem playing the video.
I use: Haali (20/05/2010), FFDShow (3477), MPC-HC (2061) and madVR (0.20).
I've tried narrowing the problem to a specific video or audio feature, but the whole thing seems pretty random.
Now, I would have uploaded a sample, but much to my surprise the 10 seconds sample created using MKVToolnix 4.0.0 plays just fine... :eek:
Please let me know what kind of testing can be done in order to pinpoint the exact problem better.

[BibiCode]

Hello, I'm using MPC HC to listen to music, I would love it if the black screen that used to view videos were replaced with a geiss like visual representation.

Is it possible to add this with a plugin ? and how ?

thanks for any replies !

[foxyshadis]

I posted this as bug #536 (https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/536) earlier this week, but no work on it yet. I'm sure it'll come soon.

Proposed patch posted on the ticket.

Hello all,
I've got a weird problem that I think I managed to track back to MPC-HC.
It seems that with some MKV files MPC-HC will crash on launch, supposedly because of FFDShow:
Attach the results of mkvinfo and mkvverify (not part of mkvtoolnix). If it fails there, it's a corrupted mux. If it doesn't, it's probably corrupted video or audio. You can demux it and run it through a tool to verify; for h.264 you could try avinaptic or h264visa. (StreamEye is the gold standard, but it's $$$.) For vc-1 and audio formats, I wouldn't know. Still, it looks like it belongs in the ffdshow thread, and only if it's totally up to date.

[XhmikosR]

Hello all,
I've got a weird problem that I think I managed to track back to MPC-HC.
It seems that with some MKV files MPC-HC will crash on launch, supposedly because of FFDShow:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: mpc-hc.exe
Application Version: 1.3.2061.0
Application Timestamp: 4c1d363e
Fault Module Name: ffdshow.ax
Fault Module Version: 1.1.3477.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4c18f0da
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 000226ad
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

However, using the exact same rendering chain in GraphStudio, I have no problem playing the video.
I use: Haali (20/05/2010), FFDShow (3477), MPC-HC (2061) and madVR (0.20).
I've tried narrowing the problem to a specific video or audio feature, but the whole thing seems pretty random.
Now, I would have uploaded a sample, but much to my surprise the 10 seconds sample created using MKVToolnix 4.0.0 plays just fine... :eek:
Please let me know what kind of testing can be done in order to pinpoint the exact problem better.

Does your video have AC3 audio? Are you using an ICL11 build of ffdshow or MSVC build? Because I'm getting some crashes with some specific videos, but only with ffdshow ICL11 builds and AC3 audio. And as you noticed, the crash doesn't happen if I cut a sample.

[cafevincent]

I know this is off topic but I just wanted to share this MPC startup logo with someone. Enjoy.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6166/daftpulp.th.png (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/daftpulp.png/)

[Maccara]

You can somewhat manipulate the occurance of these errors, if you play with the vsync position of reclock or the vsync position of the custom evr renderer of mpc.
Not recommended to allow reclock VSYNC correction with DXVA (there's even a separate setting in reclock to specifically allow it).

From what people said the DXVA problems in MPC-HC occur especially with 64bit. OP , HD5xxx series cards and ATI drivers 10.4,10.5 and 10.6.
Just as a reference, DXVA working fine here with MPC-HC (32bit) + VMR9 renderless + XP X64 + ATI 4850 + Catalyst 10.5. (barring the already known limitations)

BUT, there are some minor random glitches from time to time (looks vsync related) if I have anything overlaid to video (just running time with ctrl+i is enough to show these), but this is only with fullhd video. If I just have video running without OSD (or less demanding video), it is perfect playback.

[adam777]

@foxyshadis, @XhmikosR, things just got weirder.
It turns out that when trying to launch the mentioned files, MPC-HC do not always crash.
That is, trying to launch the file again and again will eventually succeed, eventually being the 10th attempt, 20th attempt or whatever.
Once launched, the file plays flawlessly.
That inconsistent behavior is observed with both madVR and EVR-CP, and "Launch files in full screen" on or off (I think I've read something about it in the madVR thread).
Have I said "weird" already?

PS.
foxyshadis, mkvverify could not find anything wrong.
XhmikosR, ICL11 indeed, but DTS soundtrack.

[XhmikosR]

@adam777: It must be the same crash I've been having, then. For some reason, the crash never happens with ffdshow debug builds. I still haven't found the cause, but I will try to look further into this when I have some more free time. In the meanwhile, use the MSVC builds since it never crashed for me.

[adam777]

@adam777: It must be the same crash I've been having, then. For some reason, the crash never happens with ffdshow debug builds. I still haven't found the cause, but I will try to look further into this when I have some more free time. In the meanwhile, use the MSVC builds since it never crashed for me.

That seems to solve it indeed... still don't know why everything works fine in GraphStudio, though.
Thanks :thanks:

[Momber]

Build 2061: interlaced H.264 still unplayable with internal DXVA decoder.

[Plutotype]

Hi,
is it only me, that LPCM audio stream handled by ffdshow can not be "seen" by the internal MPC HC splitter? I have to disable the internal one and prefer the Haali one. Haali does his job 100percently.
Any hints?
Thanks
Pluto

No little yes or no to this question? Anybody?

[Snowknight26]

What's the issue exactly? If the splitter is feeding LPCM to ffdshow, then the splitter can't see the LPCM? Seems like a circular dependency.

[jasonwc]

Build 2061: interlaced H.264 still unplayable with internal DXVA decoder.

I also found interlaced VC-1 unplayable with the MPC-HC DXVA decoder (as of build 2041). Tested with Life UK Blu-Ray 1080i50. Works fine with ffdshow using the wmv9 codec. The DXVA decoder simply shows a black screen with a black screen.

[pankov]

HI
I'm trying to switch from Haali Splitter to MPC's but I'm having problems with some of my DVB recordings. They don't show any video when I use the MPC - Mpeg Splitter in ZoomPlayer or MPC-HC itself.
I record in .ts format with all audio streams of the channel. In the following sample I've recorded half a minute from EurosportHD broadcasted by my cable TV provider.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4dm2m3mzwun/DVB_2010-06-21_02-26-04_Eurosport%20HD%20%28AC3%2Cen2%29.ts
The sample contains a H264 1920x1080i 50Hz video stream and three audio streams (one AC3 and two MP2) and plays perfectly with Haali Media Splitter but fails with MPC's.

Can somebody help me find a solution?

[gngn]

Build 2061: interlaced H.264 still unplayable with internal DXVA decoder.

interlaced/MBAFF samples from x264.nl like http://mirror05.x264.nl/public/ and mplayerhq.hu - http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/archive/video/h264/ , or samples from different HD cameras posted here on doom9 work without problems for me (internal H264 DXVA decoder + hardware deinterlacing).
only problem with some of the samples is that i have to use Haali Splitter instead of the internal MPEG TS/PS Splitter (either black screen + no playback, or no video stream at all), but this is a splitter problem, not a decoding one.
so XP+Nvidia+DXVA+interlacedH264 work perfectly.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 2067 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-2067.html)

Supported languages: BR, BY, CA, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, KR, NL, PL, RU, SC, SK, SV, TC, TR, UA

Changes (2062-2067): (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/logi-izmeneniy/log-izmeneniy-media-player-classic-homecinema.html)

Updated Catalan translation [xiulet];
Added : support for Matroska presentation graphics;
Fixed : undetected H264 video streams in Mpeg splitter;
Added : program elementary stream types;
Fixed : revert commit 2005 and 2051 (internal H254(AVC) decoder disable for interlaced files bad supported by ffmpeg);
Added : VP8 CLSID;
Fix : Open file with Dub & "Keep history of recently opened files".

[Eliminateur]

i had opened ticket #544 about the dub and when i relog in the forum i see the 2067 SVN commit, awesome Aleksoid, i can confirm it fixes the problem! now i can select the dts dub in the switcher.
Feel free to close the issue

[Plutotype]

What's the issue exactly? If the splitter is feeding LPCM to ffdshow, then the splitter can't see the LPCM? Seems like a circular dependency.

I dont know exactly, but when internal filter is checked, the LPCM sound is heard, but its like 8-bit sound pitched down for 12 semitones and has every seconds a dropout..
When I turn the internal source filter off, Haali takes over and the LPCM audio is ok.
Thanks

[panic84]

hi again,

As I said, I´ve got problems when I use mpc hc with my 4500mhd of my asus ul30a. It never uses the dxva and I don´t know if I´m doing something wrong.

I´ve got a question: does the mpc hc always use the dxva? or it use it just in case it play hd-movies(720p-1080P)?

I´m trying to decrease the cpu consume of my laptop, that the reason because I´m trying to use mpc but when I watching a divx movie(for example) mpc not use dvxa and the consume of my laptop is the same as when I use another player.

I don´t know if mpc hc uses the dxva in divx movies or not.

Can anybody help me?

many thanks

[namaiki]

4500mhd ... I don´t know if mpc hc uses the dxva in divx movies or not.

Only applies to some H.264/AVC videos, not to DivX or XviD.

[G_M_C]

I've got a question about the audio-renders reported in the output tab.

I've installed/removed/reinstalled several cards; A Asus Xonar HDAV, a Ati 5770 and the on-board audio controller.At this point in time i only use the on-board audio.

But in the output-tab all the recently used audio-renderers are still reported, even though i defenately uninstalled all the drivers.

What can i do to get MPC-HT to only report the devices that are actually present in my system, and not just sum up all the devices that have had in my system ?

[fastplayer]

^Deleting your settings should fix this.

[nevcairiel]

I also found interlaced VC-1 unplayable with the MPC-HC DXVA decoder (as of build 2041). Tested with Life UK Blu-Ray 1080i50. Works fine with ffdshow using the wmv9 codec. The DXVA decoder simply shows a black screen with a black screen.


Interlaced VC-1 is not supported by ffmpeg at all. You will have to use the Microsoft decoder.

[G_M_C]

I've got a question about the audio-renders reported in the output tab.

I've installed/removed/reinstalled several cards; A Asus Xonar HDAV, a Ati 5770 and the on-board audio controller.At this point in time i only use the on-board audio.

But in the output-tab all the recently used audio-renderers are still reported, even though i defenately uninstalled all the drivers.

What can i do to get MPC-HT to only report the devices that are actually present in my system, and not just sum up all the devices that have had in my system ?

^Deleting your settings should fix this.

Actually, i did that. I use the installer-version x64, and unistalled my previous version and let all my settings be deleted at that point (the uninstal proces asks if settings have to be deleted).

Edit: Uninstalled/removed settings & reinstalled again, still same situation.

[fastplayer]

If you've physically removed the audio devices, they shouldn't reappear. Maybe the installer is not thorough enough...

Anyway, you can check if the uninstalled devices are still listed in the Device Manager:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
Delete any trace(s) of uninstalled devices and check if MPC still reports em wrongly.

[fastplayer]

When UAC gets invoked during playback, CPU load increases by approx. 25%. Happens with EVR-CP, VMR-9 but not with madVR. Splitter/decoder combinations don't matter.
Can somebody reproduce this?

[Rester]

Hi,

I have a question about the recently implemented MPEG-2 DXVA decoder. I'm using build 2051 (x64) with EVR Custom and D3D Fullscreen, and I noticed that when using MPEG-2 DXVA the subtitles aren't displaying and menus are not correctly rendered (the buttons are not highlighted when browsing the menu). Is this a normal behavior, or I'm doing something wrong?

[hoborg]

Hi,

I have a question about the recently implemented MPEG-2 DXVA decoder. I'm using build 2051 (x64) with EVR Custom and D3D Fullscreen, and I noticed that when using MPEG-2 DXVA the subtitles aren't displaying and menus are not correctly rendered (the buttons are not highlighted when browsing the menu). Is this a normal behavior, or I'm doing something wrong?

Yes, it is "normal".

[Rester]

@hoborg

Thanks for your quick reply. I can live with the software decoder, but hardware deinterlacing is much better then Blend mode...

[nevcairiel]

hardware deinterlacing is not dependent on DXVA. The decoder just needs to not do it, and set the interlaced flag on the output, and output a colorspace that the GFX can deinterlace, and the renderer you use of course needs to support this and forward the interlace flag to the GFX, which then deinterlaces when rendering.

Colorspaces that support deinterlacing are usually YV12, NV12 or YUY2.

[Rester]

Hmm... so by selecting the "Set interlaced flag in output media type" from the properties of MPEG-2 decoder (I was actually wondering what is the purpose of this option in the decoder config), and using colorspace NV12 I can have HW deinterlacing? I'm gona give this a try with EVR Custom as renderer.

Thanks for letting me know about this :).

[G_M_C]

If you've physically removed the audio devices, they shouldn't reappear. Maybe the installer is not thorough enough...

Anyway, you can check if the uninstalled devices are still listed in the Device Manager:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
Delete any trace(s) of uninstalled devices and check if MPC still reports em wrongly.

There is not trace of uninstalled devices. Maybe MPC reads out from registry info it has put into the registry, but did not remove properly upon uninstall ?

[fastplayer]

There is not trace of uninstalled devices. Maybe MPC reads out from registry info it has put into the registry, but did not remove properly upon uninstall ?
Weird. Check if this reg key is deleted after uninstall:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Gabest\Media Player Classic
Make sure there's no mpc-hc.ini in the install directory, too.

[XhmikosR]

From the setup script, the procedure which is called if the user chooses yes in the question to remove the settings:

procedure CleanUpSettingsAndFiles();
begin
DeleteFile(ExpandConstant('{app}\*.bak'));
DeleteFile(ExpandConstant('{app}\{#mpchc_ini}'));
DeleteFile(ExpandConstant('{userappdata}\Media Player Classic\default.mpcpl'));
RemoveDir(ExpandConstant('{userappdata}\Media Player Classic'));
RegDeleteKeyIncludingSubkeys(HKCU, 'Software\Gabest\Media Player Classic');
RegDeleteKeyIncludingSubkeys(HKLM, 'SOFTWARE\Gabest\Media Player Classic');
RegDeleteKeyIfEmpty(HKCU, 'Software\Gabest');
RegDeleteKeyIfEmpty(HKLM, 'SOFTWARE\Gabest');
end;
I'm not sure if there's another key where this info is stored, but if there is let me know so I can add it in the installer script.

[HowlerX]

Hello, I have a problem with a specific file. I've included a sample clip (11MB) and a quick screenshot pointing out the problem.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40336/tp_screen.jpg

Sample clip:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40336/vertical.mkv (11MB)

The problem is that a vertical line is showing up to the left-hand side of the frame when using the latest MPC-HC v1.3.2067.0 and the internal H264/AVC (DXVA) decoder. The line does NOT show up when disabling DXVA. I also get a vertical line when using ffdshow DXVA video decoder.

The line does not show up when using an alternate H264/AVC decoder like DivX H.264 and Cyberlink Video Decoder (PDVD9) both with DXVA ENABLED.

Here are details for the file:

General
Complete name : F:\HD Flicks\67215-348\show_720p.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 3.00 GiB
Duration : 1h 34mn
Overall bit rate : 4 560 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-17 15:29:21
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.0.0 ('The Stars were mine') built on Jun 6 2010 16:18:42
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@3.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 33mn
Width : 942 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 34mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Title : AC3 5.1

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 1h 34mn
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Title : AAC 2.0


My video card is a Radeon 4650 using Catalyst 10.6. I'm on Windows XP SP3 using VMR9 (renderless). Should also point out that using MPC-HC's internal DXVA H264/AVC is very glitchy. I can introduce artifacts on the video just by right-click on the video frame. The vertical line is a new one as I have not had problems with other H.264 content like this before. Thanks for listening.

UPDATE: I found that unticking "Edge-enhancement" in the Catalyst Control center got rid of the vertical line! Still, it's weird that the vertical line doesn't show up with other decoders.

[G_M_C]

Weird. Check if this reg key is deleted after uninstall:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Gabest\Media Player Classic
Make sure there's no mpc-hc.ini in the install directory, too.

From the setup script, the procedure which is called if the user chooses yes in the question to remove the settings:

procedure CleanUpSettingsAndFiles();
begin
DeleteFile(ExpandConstant('{app}\*.bak'));
DeleteFile(ExpandConstant('{app}\{#mpchc_ini}'));
DeleteFile(ExpandConstant('{userappdata}\Media Player Classic\default.mpcpl'));
RemoveDir(ExpandConstant('{userappdata}\Media Player Classic'));
RegDeleteKeyIncludingSubkeys(HKCU, 'Software\Gabest\Media Player Classic');
RegDeleteKeyIncludingSubkeys(HKLM, 'SOFTWARE\Gabest\Media Player Classic');
RegDeleteKeyIfEmpty(HKCU, 'Software\Gabest');
RegDeleteKeyIfEmpty(HKLM, 'SOFTWARE\Gabest');
end;
I'm not sure if there's another key where this info is stored, but if there is let me know so I can add it in the installer script.

I'll do another uninstall when i'm back home later today, and search trough registry and HD's and see if something else is/was left.

To make shure i've given all info; I'm on Win7 - 64, and i use MPC-HT x64.

I've also used MPC-HT x86 for a short while, to see if there is a noticable difference, but stepped up to x64 since then.

EDIT: That reminds me that i did not check the "32-bit program files (x86)" for a left over MPC .ini.
And since stuff ("errors") like i found, almost always stem from the smallest of things, i wouldn't be surpriced if this is actuallty the cause.
(maybe prevent the x86 version and/or the x64 version from reading .ini's from the other version ? Strictly separate the 64/32 versions so to speak ?)

[XhmikosR]

32bit/64bit versions use different INI files and they are installed in different folders by default.

[eddman]

I'm still using 1.3.1249.0 version (I know, it's too old). Could someone recommend a good svn build. I know that latest isn't always the best. thanks.

[clsid]

When running MPC inside VirtualBox (a virtual machine) the EVR CP renderer gives the following error:
CreateDevice failed
DX9AllocatorPresenter failed

D3DERR_NOTAVAILABLE
This error show twice.

I am not using D3D fullscreen, so I would assume that D3D support would not be needed, right? Can any of the devs confirm that?

[Momber]

Build 2067: playback of interlaced H.264 using MPC video decoder still broken.

[Casimir666]

When running MPC inside VirtualBox (a virtual machine) the EVR CP renderer gives the following error:

This error show twice.

I am not using D3D fullscreen, so I would assume that D3D support would not be needed, right? Can any of the devs confirm that?

VirtualBox did not support creation of Direct3D surfaces, so EVR custom and VMR9 renderless are not happy (even if you are not in fullscreen). Shader did not works either.

[Peuj]

Hi,

Just curious what is:
Revision 2068 - Directory Listing
Modified Mon Jun 21 08:30:19 2010 UTC (35 hours, 58 minutes ago) by casimir666

Changed : update for madVR

Thanks

[madshi]

First preparations for supporting madVR's yet-to-come fullscreen exclusive mode. Thanks, Casimir.

[pankov]

Guys,
I apologize for the probably dumb question but how do I configure MPC to use it's internal filters over the external ones installed in my system?
I've ticked all the checkboxes in the Internal Filters list and removed everything from the external filters and still FFDShow is used for H264
?!?!?
what am I doing wrong?

edit:
OK I think I have a clue but nevertheless can someone confirm/deny it?
Is it possible the problem is that I'm trying to play interlaced H264 content?
You can use the same sample I used for reporting the problem with the detection of the H264 stream here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1410473#post1410473
and got fixed right away in build 2067

[ranpha]

edit:
OK I think I have a clue but nevertheless can someone confirm/deny it?
Is it possible the problem is that I'm trying to play interlaced H264 content?
You can use the same sample I used for reporting the problem with the detection of the H264 stream here
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1410473#post1410473
and got fixed right away in build 2067

You should be able to play interlaced H.264 videos in build 2067 now, unlike build 2041.