Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[KindDragon]

Any info about ELA deinterlacer would be appericiated.
Does it run on GPU shaders or CPU?
CPU. Full name: "edge-based line average interpolation".

[Eliminateur]

i've found another "bug", when using EVR Sync(sync to nearest) i'm getting stutter bursts(videos is ok, then stutters... stutters.. stutters... then fine for some time and again).
Here's a capture: http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3162/dropsa.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/dropsa.jpg/)

using EVR CP shows no stuttering.
using b1940 on win7 64 catalyst 10.4 all soft decode

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1947 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1947.html)

Changes (1941-1947): (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/logi-izmeneniy/log-izmeneniy-media-player-classic-homecinema.html)

"Disable DXVA filters" message fixed;
MPC-HC API improvements. Patch by imianz. This commit fixes ticket #489;
Fix : OSD show wrong(previous) audio stream on change;
Code cleanup;
Updated FFmpeg;
Fixed open edl file;
Cosmetic OSD change(on audio stream change).

[Dark Eiri]

Will MPC-HC support WebM soon, since ffmpeg has some patches to support it? or ir already does?

[dansrfe]

Whenever I zoom in to a video in MPC-HC it zooms in but the zooming is uneven and doesn't go towards the center of the video. Instead it "drifts" towards the top. I hope this bug can be fixed in the next version because I really like and use the zoom feature a lot.

[betaking]

can fix this bug?
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/498

[Rille]

Does anyone else have problems with the DXVA-check?
I have the following setup and DXVA will not enable with L5.1:
Windows 7 x64
ATI HD4350 PCIe
Catalyst 10.5 (same problem with 10.4)
External filters: Reclock, AC3filter, matroska splitter

If i disable all checks DXVA works just fine.

I did have the same problem on my other computer which is identical in setup except that id uses a HD4850 instead. Removing Catalyst 10.4 -> driver sweeper -> catalyst 10.5 did however solve the problem on that setup. The same steps on my HTPC (HD4350) did however not solve the problem.

Movieinfo:
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 8 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@5.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 32mn
Bit rate : 10.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.272
Stream size : 10.4 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 56 svn-680
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=4 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=10032 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:0.3:15.0

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1955 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-svn-1955.html)

Changes (1948-1955): (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/logi-izmeneniy/log-izmeneniy-media-player-classic-homecinema.html)

Bug with PGS subtitles finally fixed (ticket #455);
cosmetics: changed remaining "MPC" strings to "MPC-HC". Patch by thevbm.;
Updated FFmpeg;
Black background with PGS subtitles fixed;
updated Ukrainian translation [arestarh];
Supported play times 0 (ticket #400);
manifest file clean up. Patch by thevbm.

[oddball]

Thanks for fixing the bug with subtitle key toggle in the last build.

Will there be support for subs in Blu-ray images? MPC-HC does not display .SUP subs. I am surprised nobody has made an external filter to display those yet. Could this be incorporated into MPC-HC?

[Eliminateur]

After rebooting now i'm getting a horrible sawtooth graph even with EVR-CP, any ideas?, check my previous posts...

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5673/sawtoothevrcp.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/sawtoothevrcp.jpg/)


before the reboot the graph was two parallel lines

[torpedo]

Thanks for fixing the bug with subtitle key toggle in the last build.

Will there be support for subs in Blu-ray images? MPC-HC does not display .SUP subs. I am surprised nobody has made an external filter to display those yet. Could this be incorporated into MPC-HC?

One thing I can confirm: external .SUB subtitle is supported well in mpc-hc.

[nevcairiel]

After rebooting now i'm getting a horrible sawtooth graph even with EVR-CP, any ideas?, check my previous posts...

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5673/sawtoothevrcp.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/sawtoothevrcp.jpg/)


before the reboot the graph was two parallel lines

I've always had a graph like that with the vsync options active. Although mine is pretty regular, no peaks like in yours there.

I don't even know how it should look with vsync on. If i disable vsync, i get two lines, but obviously i'm missing the vsync adjustments.

[oddball]

One thing I can confirm: external .SUB subtitle is supported well in mpc-hc.

But you lose styled subs/embedded fonts.

[torpedo]

But you lose styled subs/embedded fonts.


Styled fonts? You mean text subs?
AFAIK embedded subs such as mkv, DVD, BDMV, HDMV etc. MKV embeds text subs, others embed pic subs.
The styled embedded subs I had never played before. But external styled subs such as .ASS subs, mpc-hc also dose well on them.
Maybe what you were troubled with due to different version of mpc-hc you using as agaist i'm using. Which version of mpc-hc are you using?

[Jong]

After rebooting now i'm getting a horrible sawtooth graph even with EVR-CP, any ideas?, check my previous posts...

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5673/sawtoothevrcp.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/sawtoothevrcp.jpg/)


before the reboot the graph was two parallel linesDon't know what is going on in the middle there, but you will always get a sawtooth if you are displaying 23.976fps @60Hz. Should be regular though.

You must have been using either a different refresh rate e.g 24Hz, or different media e.g 30p when testing before.

[xiulet]

.

hi i have updated the catalan translation, can i use tortoise svn to update it or i have to wait for your testing?
updated translation (https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/mpc-hc/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41&start=10#p144)

thank, you. Adéu.
:o

[Mercury_22]

There is a bug in D3D Full screen Mode: D3DExError: No m_pD3DEx which prevents a Full 10 bit chain = NO Display A2R10G10B10
From the rev available at http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/ I can say that the bug started between Revision 1824 (= last working) and Revision 1829 (= first not working)

Please help

[rahzel]

I can't use MPC HC's audio switcher if I'm using ffdshow audio decoder. ffdshow's audio decoder is unchecked and yes I've made sure auto load audio files is checked and that the audio switcher is enabled. If I use MPC HC's internal audio decoders, I am able to use the sound switcher, but if I use ffdshow, the audio menu is grayed out. Is this normal? I guess I can use ffdshow's audio switcher, but I'm trying to play external audio tracks in MPC HC, but ffdshow doesn't seem to list external tracks. I was told MPC HC's switcher can play external tracks as long as the audio file has the same file name as the video.

BTW, Haali splitter is out of the question too, as I have to use Gabest for bitstreaming. Haali seems to have issues with TrueHD bitstreaming.

[clsid]

Yes, that is normal. Loading of external audio track should still work and show up in the track list in ffdshow (assuming it is getting decoded by ffdshow of course).

[daWsOn_s]

10.5 ATI with MPCHC DVXA decoder still broken! :mad:

[rahzel]

Yes, that is normal. Loading of external audio track should still work and show up in the track list in ffdshow (assuming it is getting decoded by ffdshow of course).
Thanks.

I know someone else who was using external audio tracks, but since he migrated to Win7, he couldn't get external audio to work. I'm using Win7 as well.
10.5 ATI with MPCHC DVXA decoder still broken! :mad:
What issues are you having? I'm having issues as well, but I have the same issues using ffdshow's DXVA decoder. I think it's a driver issue. My problem is I get driver crashes. The screen will go black at random times. Sometimes it goes black for 1-2 seconds then I'm greeted with a "Display Driver AMD (amdkmdap) has stopped responding", and sometimes it goes to a gray screen after the black screen. I've given up on DXVA ATM and I've e-mailed ATI recently.

[Kado]

@Developers

Thanks for the asynchronous subtitles loading/rendering!
Now the video does not freeze when rendering big chunks of text although it still drops a frame or two every now and then...
Anyway, thanks!

[daWsOn_s]

Thanks.

I know someone else who was using external audio tracks, but since he migrated to Win7, he couldn't get external audio to work. I'm using Win7 as well.

What issues are you having? I'm having issues as well, but I have the same issues using ffdshow's DXVA decoder. I think it's a driver issue. My problem is I get driver crashes. The screen will go black at random times. Sometimes it goes black for 1-2 seconds then I'm greeted with a "Display Driver AMD (amdkmdap) has stopped responding", and sometimes it goes to a gray screen after the black screen. I've given up on DXVA ATM and I've e-mailed ATI recently.


I get random and frequent freezes, blocks and artifacts during playback. I had to revert to 10.3, again.

I hate when they made new releases with new bugs previously not present and they carry bugs for many releases instead of fixing. This is so ATI

[oddball]

Styled fonts? You mean text subs?
AFAIK embedded subs such as mkv, DVD, BDMV, HDMV etc. MKV embeds text subs, others embed pic subs.
The styled embedded subs I had never played before. But external styled subs such as .ASS subs, mpc-hc also dose well on them.
Maybe what you were troubled with due to different version of mpc-hc you using as agaist i'm using. Which version of mpc-hc are you using?

Well the picture subs in m2ts streams. I would prefer to have those displayed than an external sub file. I know I can use .ass and probably an external font that emulates it (If I can find the right font). One example is a certain recent big movie from a famous director. It uses a picture font in the Blu-ray m2ts stream. I would like for MPC-HC to display those. Not just a generalised sub.

[rahzel]

I get random and frequent freezes, blocks and artifacts during playback. I had to revert to 10.3, again.

I hate when they made new releases with new bugs previously not present and they carry bugs for many releases instead of fixing. This is so ATI
I have to agree. I've had so many issues with ATI's drivers. That's why I usually stick with whatever driver works and don't bother upgrading. In my case, I have issues with any driver so I've given up on DXVA.

[betaking]

https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/498
thanks fix this bug！ but today i found new bug!
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/503

[dansrfe]

Submitted ticket online.

[Superb]

Just wanted to point out that Nvidia display driver 257.15 (beta) fixed all stutter issues w/ EVR-Sync and Custom EVR here.
(197.45 had issues)

[thuan]

Indeed, any stutter issue I have with nvidia driver is fixed with 257.15 beta driver. BTW has anyone tested WHQL 197.77 yet? It is on guru3d.com

[VenomousNinja]

Just wanted to point out that Nvidia display driver 257.15 (beta) fixed all stutter issues w/ EVR-Sync and Custom EVR here.
(197.45 had issues)

It seems not fully fixed for EVR-CP, sync. I always use my secondary monitor (LCD TV) for movies on my Win7 Pro 32 bit machine (GTX260 SP216). I watched one .avi without stutter, next one got ugly stutter.Only use Direct3D fullscreen fixed it. So its partially fixed, but still problematic on secondary monitor. EVR has no issues.
BTW I can use VMR-9 renderless** without weird half-video issue. This driver fixed it!

[Snowknight26]

When jumping to a time via Ctrl+G, if you leave off the decimals on the seconds, the units get shifted to the right. Example:

00:25:00.000 goes to 25 minutes in.
00:25:00 goes to 25 seconds in.

Parsing should be done from left to right and shouldn't require milliseconds.

[nightfly]

Can NOT build the solution in Release mode. Debug works fine. Head revision of 1975. That's been the case since ~1964 or so.

[Eliminateur]

possibly the previous files where 30fps, the problem of the sawtooth graph was that motion(specially pans) are continuously kerky, it looks like 10 fps motion at the most, that's what got me to open the graphbar and discover that in the first place(the tooth coincide with the jerkiness).

i had to go back to evr-sync and pray the original burst drops from that renderer wouldn't appear again, to my luck, they didn't so i'm running evr-sync and it all goes smoothly
:thanks:

Don't know what is going on in the middle there, but you will always get a sawtooth if you are displaying 23.976fps @60Hz. Should be regular though.

You must have been using either a different refresh rate e.g 24Hz, or different media e.g 30p when testing before.



clsid: what does the new "SSE2" memcpy implementations do specifically(i mean, what part of the playing chain is optimized by this new code?)

[daWsOn_s]

I have to agree. I've had so many issues with ATI's drivers. That's why I usually stick with whatever driver works and don't bother upgrading. In my case, I have issues with any driver so I've given up on DXVA.

I wrote to ATI and they asked to provide more info since is not a known bug:)

[Mercury_22]

After the fix of D3D error (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1403194#post1403194) in svn Revision 1977 - Directory Listing
Modified Fri May 28 23:01:07 2010 UTC (15 hours, 54 minutes ago) by kinddragon

Problem with D3D9Ex fixed (ticket #502) still can't get a full 10 RGB chain, the Display is still X8R8G8B8 instead of A2R10G10B10 as in svn 1824 but i don't get the D3D error (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1403194#post1403194) any more ! Can anyone confirm this ?

[hoborg]

Hi.
Is there plan to update MP4 splitter to support this sample (http://hobring.ic.cz/samples/mp4.AAC+AVC1_(1280x720@50fps).rar) ?

It is working with Haali, but only black screen using "MP4Splitter.ax".
:thanks:

Looks like this issue was fixed (black screen) - tested on svn 1984.
Can be related to Ticket #24.

Now glitch every 2-3 second remain...

[KindDragon]

clsid: what does the new "SSE2" memcpy implementations do specifically(i mean, what part of the playing chain is optimized by this new code?)
QuickTimes movies for example

[Hera]

Hello, newb here,
I have a few problems and / or questions,

System 1,
Intel Atom N270
Nvidia ION (Latest WHQL netbook ION drivers)
Windows 7
EVR CP

System 2,
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
Nvidia 6600 (Older 19x.xx drivers)
Windows XP SP3
VMR9 / Haali

System 3,
Intel Pentium T4400 (x86_64)
Intel GMA 4500M (Latest WU drivers)
Windows 7 (x86_64)
EVR CP and MPC:HC x86_64

1) Some observations about vsync,

On System 1, Accurate VSync caused CPU to spike to 100%. Made sound / video stagger like hell. Regardless whether purevideo was evoked through CUDA or DXVA. Disabling it fixed that problem, and caused no playback issues.
Later, I noticed one video visually lagging (visible during panning scenes), thought it was the video for the longest period of time. Then I enabled "Wait for flushes" - fixed that.
Here is the kicker, disabling "VSync" and enabling "Wait for flushes" reduced my CPU usage by 10%, fixed video stuttering (not detected as skipped frames), and there are no tearing.

On System 2,
Whether D3D Fullscreen, VSync, Accurate VSync, Alternative VSync... I had tearing with video when using VMR9. Then I enabled "Wait for flushes" and disabled everything VSync -> no more tearing (did not check if CPU usage decreased).

Same thing for System 3, decreased CPU usage and no tearing.

2) Weak GPU?

On system 2, enabling "Wait for flushes", using a Pixel Shader Scaler and using 3D surfaces made it skip frames. VMR9 mixer mode decreased the amount of skipped frames, but disabling 3D surfaces actually fixed it.

System 3 skips frames when using bicubic scaler.

4) h264 playback specific

System 3 + Haali Splitter + h264 + DXVA = Corruption (a few versions back it was black screen)
System 3 + Haali Splitter + h264 + DXVA + Microsoft h264 decoder = A OK.

All three systems + Haali Splitter + File with OP/ED in an external file + not CoreAVC = Corruption.
That is, if opening an ending are separate or each chapter of a movie is a separate file - there is just massive video curruption. Any fixes?

If it is a driver problem, I am only accepting official WHQL drivers as fixes.

5) Reference frame check is borked,

I have to disable reference frame check for System 1, otherwise DXVA doesn't kick in. ION seems to run 20Mbit 1080p 16-ref frame h264 fine. (Offtopic: I am looking for something with a more taxing bitrate to test out)

6) Obstructed video with D3D,

With system 2, D3D fullscreen is somewhat borked. What happens: video starts playing just fine, but in the background while in the foreground there is the MPC:HC video player so I have to minimize the MPC:HC video player (to get to the video), this pops up the taskbar, so I have to click on the video to focus on it - which pauses it - and then click on it again to resume playback.
So the problem being, MPC:HC doesn't seem to minimize itself or what?

[oddball]

Submitted new tickets using latest SVN 1984 but earlier builds are also affected.

MPC HC hangs when closing a file or opening a new file using EVR CP or EVR-Sync with D3D.

Also DTS stutters and receiver light does not light when playing back DTS via SPDIF. AC3 plays back fine. I have to use ffdshow or AC3Filter for bitstream because of this.

[Scoty]

I use MPC-HC 1881 ans when i make Thumbnails with MPC-HC look this is not good. Here is an example. Why is that?

[cybersharky]

Which directx sdk must I get? Is this ok: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=2c7da5fb-ffbb-4af6-8c66-651cbd28ca15

[fastplayer]

Which directx sdk must I get? Is this ok: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=2c7da5fb-ffbb-4af6-8c66-651cbd28ca15
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3

[vBm]

Can NOT build the solution in Release mode. Debug works fine. Head revision of 1975. That's been the case since ~1964 or so.

as of 1964 there's been some folder structure re-factoring ... maybe that's why you couldn't compile correctly (some files might not be properly merged etc. ... had the same problem)

After clean importing of trunk problem was gone.

[hayan]

mpc-hc 32bit rev.1984, EVR CP, win7 x64, mpg ext file (mpeg1, 29.97 or 30fps)

OS Splitter: Audio/video stuttering, or normal
mpc Splitter: normal, or double speed&stutter (display stats"framerate: 60fps")

[oddball]

Does anyone know when the bug with video playback (IE no video is shown) will be fixed with MKV files that have LOTS of subtitles in them? There appears to be a limit to the amount of subtitles that are muxed in (Not sure how many) before MPC and also Haali's external splitter will not split the video portion out to the renderer.

[GrandeBoma]

I have a request: can somebody please investigate why mpc fails to connect to cyberlink audio decoder (pdvd10) for pcm, ac3, e-ac3 and truehd tracks in vista and seven?

I really need that decoder in the chain and it's only loading it for dts tracks.

If I launch mpc-hc in xp compatibility mode it will connect for all tracks, but then I am not able to use reclock audio renderer in WASAPI mode because it detects win xp as O.S. and launches kernel streaming instead :mad:

I am sure there is a problem with pin connections that can be solved with a tweak like what happens for VC-1 loader

Anybody feels like looking into this? Pretty please? :p

[oddball]

Is there any way to get rid of the 24Hz frame dropping? If I set my tertiary monitor to 60Hz I get no frame drops with EVR CP or EVR-Sync. But with EVR only I do not get any frames drops on 24Hz output so it's a problem with EVR CP and EVR-Sync obviously. Also I sometimes get stuttering. This is probably caused by background IO because the CPU is not being stressed at all. The frame drop is a concern though and I would prefer that was sorted out first as EVR on it's own is rubbish (Video goes into slow playback mode and stutters).

[Nitrius]

Just wondering, i know in the past DXVA had better support on Nvidia card because it support all the H.264 levels, but after Catalyst 10.4, if i remember correctly, they added support for H.264 Level 5.1 for ATI cards, does this mean that ATI is even with Nvidia now? Or are there still some bugs with ATI and DXVA?


Edit: Also the DXVA(H.264) Compatibility check option, what does it do? The default is set to "Skip level check" i think, but found a guide, and was told it should be set to "Skip all checks" for ATI cards.

[dansrfe]

Also the DXVA(H.264) Compatibility check option, what does it do? The default is set to "Skip level check" i think, but found a guide, and was told it should be set to "Skip all checks" for ATI cards.

I have an ATi card and basically the DXVA(H.264) Compatibility check option checks to make sure that the file you are trying to play is a legal DXVA compatible file for the GPU and drivers you have. In the case of ATi cards and drivers that are pre 10.4 Catalyst, you have to "Skip all checks" because previous driver versions cannot "legally" play anything above L5.1 and more than 8 ref frames I think. But technically speaking it can play it if you force it to and don't inform it of what the specs of the file are. Of course its always best to upgrade to the latest drivers and ensure smooth playback.

[Nitrius]

I have an ATi card and basically the DXVA(H.264) Compatibility check option checks to make sure that the file you are trying to play is a legal DXVA compatible file for the GPU and drivers you have. In the case of ATi cards and drivers that are pre 10.4 Catalyst, you have to "Skip all checks" because previous driver versions cannot "legally" play anything above L5.1 and more than 8 ref frames I think. But technically speaking it can play it if you force it to and don't inform it of what the specs of the file are. Of course its always best to upgrade to the latest drivers and ensure smooth playback.

So it should stay at "Full check" or "Skip level check" if i use latest catalyst driver?

And i seem to get some sort of corruption in the video from time to time while playing in DXVA mode, very much like this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140972 is it possible to fix? It's not happening often, but i would really like to have it gone.

Edit: Running Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit with Asus 5870, Catalyst 10.5. Using latest MPC-HC build: .1984