Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[Kaotech]

Just reposting a bug I reported a few weeks back along with another audio bug.

Bug 1) Dolby True HD within .ts file, the front right channel is inaudible. Using ffdshow audio decoder there is no problem, only mpc-hc decoder has the problem.


I've got the same bug with True HD on BD .

[Casimir666]

Holy crap, that was quick. :eek::thanks:

I'll probably have another Blu-ray subtitle bug report later today after I get a sample uploaded.

Gits sample is fixed too.

[mariner]

Greetings Casimir.

Did you get a chance to see my earlier post on adding Arcsoft VC1 Decoder connectivity?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1265251&postcount=6980

Thanks and best regards.

[Casimir666]

Greetings Casimir.

Did you get a chance to see my earlier post on adding Arcsoft VC1 Decoder connectivity?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1265251&postcount=6980

Thanks and best regards.

I've see it, but unfortunately the current design of the Mpeg demux did not support multiple media type for on track. It's on todo list, but low priority.

[mariner]

Thanks and best regards.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), svn 1023 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/690/1/)

Supported languages: BY, CN, CZ, DE, EN, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Added : EDL editor; Changed : Improved speed for step frame forwar; Fixed : some PGS subtitles were incorrectly displayed; Updated Turkish translation; Updated Czech translation; Updated Hungarian translation

[ikarad]

I found a problem with ffdshow and MPC HOMEcinema

If I want to see DVD movie with separated subtitles (which doesn't on the dvd), subtitle aren't display if I use open dvd fuinction of MPC Homecinema and subtitle function of FFDSHOW.
I use mpc homecinema 1018 and ffdshow 2812

[Xorp]

The PGS subtitles for the Kite Runner US Blu-ray appear blue using build 1023, here's a sample: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1cyrh3

Example: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9717/tkr.jpg

Also, the description for DTS-HD tracks should have a dash in like "DTS-HD" not "DTS HD" if you wanna be anal about correct format names.

[DigitalDeviant]

Gits sample is fixed too.

:thanks: I think my Blu-ray subtitle playback is perfect now.

[Lincoln Burrows]

Guys,
do you have any idea where MPC-HC saves the key definitions and all options changed by the user? I mean, there are the defaul configs from the installer/build and there are the modified options. If I needed to format my machine and reinstall MPC-HC in another computer, what should I do to avoid filling those options again?

Key definitions are the shortcuts you might define in your keyboard for some commands like pausing or opening files.

I know that BSP is saving those options in both ways (see thread below for more info):
http://forum.bsplayer.com/answered-solved-questions/9388-how-do-i-save-my-personal-settings.html

Not sure about MPC-HC. Perhaps all configs are placed in the installation folder? Or the Windows application data? What files do I need to copy/save?

Thank you. :)

[Casimir666]

The PGS subtitles for the Kite Runner US Blu-ray appear blue using build 1023, here's a sample: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1cyrh3

Example: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9717/tkr.jpg

Also, the description for DTS-HD tracks should have a dash in like "DTS-HD" not "DTS HD" if you wanna be anal about correct format names.

Could you demux PGS track with tsMuxer from the complete file and post please.

[Mtz]

Could you add an option to show something like a graph (VU Meters) of audio over the video? Something like "Display stats" but that red line to show the audio VU meters.
This function is needed when trying to find the correct audio delay.
Something like in this screenshot of mp3directcut program.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9024/mp3directcut.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mp3directcut.jpg)

enjoy,
Mtz

[Leak]

Guys,
do you have any idea where MPC-HC saves the key definitions and all options changed by the user? I mean, there are the defaul configs from the installer/build and there are the modified options. If I neede to format my machine and reinstall MPC-HC in another computer, what should I do to avoid filling those options again?
Either in the registry under "HKCU\Software\Gabest\Media Player Classic", or in an INI file with an identical name to that of the MPC binary, i.e. "mplayerc.ini" if the binary is "mplayerc.exe".

To back up everything it's probably easiest to go into the options, check "store settings to .ini file" and backing up your MPC installation folder. Then just restore the MPC folder and run MPC and maybe uncheck "store settings to .ini file" again if you want your settings in the registry...

np: Distance - Battle Sequence (Chestplate)

[Kaotech]

Do you think it's possible to do a fonction to run a HDDVD with MPC, when i run my HDDVD, the player say " Cannot find DVD Directory".

[Mark_A_W]

Do you think it's possible to do a fonction to run a HDDVD with MPC, when i run my HDDVD, the player say " Cannot find DVD Directory".

+1

HD-DVD navigation, similar to the current Bluray navigation please!

:)

[Jong]

I am still remuxing Blu-ray to mkv. Not tried MPC-HC m2ts support yet. Can you select subtitles and language uisng "next subtitle" and "next language" yet? if not, is this on the agenda?

[Leak]

HD-DVD navigation, similar to the current Bluray navigation please!
I wonder if you didn't get the memo that HD-DVD is deader than a doornail...

np: The Future Sound Of London - Pulse State (831 AM Mix) (Future Sound Of London - The Pulse EPs)

[alex_3d42]

Version 1024 :thanks: (http://mpc-hc.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mpc-hc/?view=log)

Nice number :D

[clsid]

Nah, I'll wait for build 1337 :)

[envagyok]

Hy

Is any possibility with mpc-hc to change output refresh rate when different fps source material is played?
i mean my 720p lcd-tv, and beamer support 50,59,60 fps with 720p resolution, and when i want play my pal hdv videos, with 50fps tha look best with 50fps
the ntsc material looks best at 60fps
and when i shot my avchd cam, then the video file looks best at 59 fps
how can i make automatic refresh rate change depending source movie material?

or how it can i send to todo or wishlist?

[Casimir666]

To G45 users, can you try to play this file http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/videos/dawn/dawn20070626/dawn062607-1280-i.m4v with this test build http://www.zshare.net/download/578802606e7ad4d2/ to see if the multi slice bug is fixed.

[The1n]

@Casimir666

Still very garbled here , with intel gfx drivers 1666.

Look at attachment.

The1n

[GrofLuigi]

I want to test MPC-HC on laptop (Intel MHD4500), OS Server2003 (latest DirectX, hw accel ON) and whatever I do, I'm getting "Not Using DXVA". I have some questions:

1. Is the Display Adapter same or similar to G45? I think I read somewhere in the past it is, but now I'm not so sure.

2. Does Haali Splitter interfere? I have it installed.

3. I tested also with EVR and EVR Custom Presenter (three DLLs posted somewhere in this thread/forum). Still no luck. Should it work with DXVA?

4. What should I be paying attention to in the options that is known to prevent DXVA?

GL

[Mark_A_W]

I wonder if you didn't get the memo that HD-DVD is deader than a doornail...

np: The Future Sound Of London - Pulse State (831 AM Mix) (Future Sound Of London - The Pulse EPs)


I still have 10x more HD-DVDs than BDs. As do most of my friends - we all went nuts when they were $7 each. BD's are $50 here.

I can still buy them and rent them, and most are better quality than almost all BD's (finally they are lifting their game, but it's taken ages).

I have remuxed them all to MKV, but it would be nice if I could play the discs directly and free up some hard drive space (let's face it, at $7 I bought quite a few that perhaps aren't worthy of a permanent 25GB chunk of hard drive.)

It's only simple navigation I requested - EAC3TO does it so it can't be *impossible*.

HD-DVD may be dead, but it's not forgotten.

Mark

PS. FSOL Accelerator and Lifeforms do have a permanent chunk of my hard drive :cool:

[Leak]

HD-DVD may be dead, but it's not forgotten.
Okay, so you meant "playing back the main movie" or "jumping to each of the parts on the disc" instead of "full menu support", which is what I would call navigation...

(Then again I don't want any of that encumbered HD crap as long as there's DVDs... :D)

np: Joy Division - The Eternal (Sound Check) (Still Extras)

[Mark_A_W]

Okay, so you meant "playing back the main movie" or "jumping to each of the parts on the disc" instead of "full menu support", which is what I would call navigation...

(Then again I don't want any of that encumbered HD crap as long as there's DVDs... :D)

np: Joy Division - The Eternal (Sound Check) (Still Extras)


Yes, just Open -> DVD, and it plays the main movie, like with BD's.


You still watch DVD's? I can't, not on the projector. They look so bad compared to HD. DVD's get watched on the TV ;)

[Egh]

1022 28.03.2009

Added : EDL editor
Changed : Improved speed for step frame forward

What is EDL editor anyway ???


You still watch DVD's? I can't, not on the projector.

Newsflash: DVD look ugly even on 19" LCD monitor, provided it is has a good matrix.

[Beliyaal]

New version (Link in signature):
* Change: Made stats graph more clear by antialiasing and thicker lines.
* Change: The stats shortcut Ctrl+J now cycles between different amount of stats. Less stats take less time to draw and interferes less with playback.
* Fixed: VSync correction code accidentally disabled in version 20 enabled again.
* Fixed: VSync correction now works when refresh rate is less than movie fps (when dropping frames).
* Fixed: Removed clock smoothing and added better detection of clock speed.
* Fixed: Use detected clock speed to predict next VSync. This fixes stutter problems when using ReClock to resample audio.
* Fixed: Optimized CPU time taken by stats display.
* Fixed: DXVA deadlock when waiting for Present.

Please report any problems and discuss this build in the thread linked in signature.

[Mike5]

Yes, just Open -> DVD, and it plays the main movie, like with BD's.

When I use "Open DVD" on a BluRay MPC-HC says "Cannot find DVD Directory", like you reported for HD-DVD. I still can play the movie with "Quick Open File" on the m2ts file, though.

I still use the 1.2.908 version; is it a new feature of the SVN version ?

And more: which is the best splitter for m2ts ?

If i use the MPC-HC internal splitter, the player sometimes freezes. If I use Haali media Splitter, it doesn't specify the type of audio streams: they are all Unknown and it is difficult to find the right one in a BD with 10 audio streams.

[Jong]

@Casimir666,

Hi. Beliyaal thinks you are the guy for this one.

There has been discussion in the Beliyaal thread since the 12th march about a bizzare judder problem I have seen with VC-1 HD-DVD titles remuxed to mkv. Until today I thought the problem was in the Beliyaal build (since build 16), but now we have nailed it down to all svn builds since 1009.

In 1008 these titles (almost certainly with "soft" 3:2 pulldown flags still in place) are correctly determined by the DXVA decoder (using an ATI 3850 and Cat 9.2) as progressive and playback is smooth. From 1009 the stream is treated as interlaced and playback is horrid!

Here is a link to the later part of the discussion in the Beliyaal thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1267500#post1267500

We have now worked out that the likely reason it works with the internal filters disabled is because MPC is then using the external DS version of the MPC decoder, which I have not updated.

I have a 30MB clip I can send you if you have an ftp address or I can upload to you direct using Windows Messenger. PM me if you need it.

[honai]

A better solution would be to remux these VC-1 MKVs with the latest eac3to and thus remove the pulldown flags from the stream. In any case those shouldn't be in there. It's a remnant from the HD DVD consortium's decision to have VC-1 files at 1080p24 "compatible" with the olden days and give them false interlace flags. On all Blu-rays VC-1 at 1080p24 is correctly flagged, i.e. no pulldown flags.

[Jong]

A better solution would be to remux these VC-1 MKVs with the latest eac3to and thus remove the pulldown flags from the stream. In any case those shouldn't be in there. It's a remnant from the HD DVD consortium's decision to have VC-1 files at 1080p24 "compatible" with the olden days and give them false interlace flags. On all Blu-rays VC-1 at 1080p24 is correctly flagged, i.e. no pulldown flags.I am not sure I agree. Yes that could fix it, for me, with not inconsiderable pain, but there is no reason for the decoder to get confused. It did not in the past (still doesn't in the stable release). The WMV DMO decoder handles the files fine.

I am sure I will not be alone in having ripped an entire HD-DVD collection with these flags in place. If this is not fixed it will cause problems when the next stable release goes out.

[honai]

Pain how? The last few versions of eac3to can easily demux MKVs, i.e. just mux video with mkvmerge again and you're done! Not painful l at all, especially when you use mkvmerge's batch processing.

And the WMV DMO decoder handles them fine because it knows that 29.970 "interlaced" VC-1 is actually true 23.976 progressive and thus simply ignores the pulldown flags.

As I wrote, such streams are a thing of the past (with the demise of HD DVD), and no future Blu-ray will have such streams, so now would be a good time to correct your files. ;)

[Jong]

Because a good number of people have a fair size collection of HD-DVD rips. All their files would need reworking. And there is nothing to "correct" in the files. The flags are there if they are needed, which in this case they are not. MPC-HC merely needs to ignore them as it does currently in the stable version.

[honai]

I respectfully disagree. The flags are never needed for any HD DVD and Blu-ray VC-1 progressive videos because the bitstream itself only contains progressive frames, so effectively the soft pulldown flags in HD DVD VC-1 streams are actually a defect, i.e. they indicate a framerate of 29.97 telecined while actually the bitstream contains true 23.976 progressive frames.

There is a good reason why eac3to 2.x started to remove the soft pulldown flags by default. ;)

[Kaotech]

I still have 10x more HD-DVDs than BDs. As do most of my friends - we all went nuts when they were $7 each. BD's are $50 here.

I can still buy them and rent them, and most are better quality than almost all BD's (finally they are lifting their game, but it's taken ages).

I have remuxed them all to MKV, but it would be nice if I could play the discs directly and free up some hard drive space (let's face it, at $7 I bought quite a few that perhaps aren't worthy of a permanent 25GB chunk of hard drive.)

It's only simple navigation I requested - EAC3TO does it so it can't be *impossible*.

HD-DVD may be dead, but it's not forgotten.

Mark

PS. FSOL Accelerator and Lifeforms do have a permanent chunk of my hard drive :cool:


I agree with that, we just need a little option to play our HDDVD, you can make this option one day, just to have the best freeware player :p

[Jong]

I respectfully disagree. The flags are never needed for any HD DVD and Blu-ray VC-1 progressive videos because the bitstream itself only contains progressive frames, so effectively the soft pulldown flags in HD DVD VC-1 streams are actually a defect, i.e. they indicate a framerate of 29.97 telecined while actually the bitstream contains true 23.976 progressive frames.

There is a good reason why eac3to 2.x started to remove the soft pulldown flags by default. ;)

Look. Let's see what Casimir says.

You are right. I could fix my files, I know about the problem and there is only one of me. But do we really have to release the next version of MPC-HC with something in the release notes that says all who have VC-1 HD-DVD files and did not strip off these flags have to re-work them?

if there is some fundamental reason why this was not needed previously but is now so be it, but if it can be reversed it would save a lot of people a lot of hassle Or, if you must, a fair amount of hassle!.

[St Devious]

can mpc hc, loop a video file over and over again ?

[7o9]

can mpc hc, loop a video file over and over again ?

Options, Playback, Playback, Repeat forever

[flanger216]

I respectfully disagree. The flags are never needed for any HD DVD and Blu-ray VC-1 progressive videos because the bitstream itself only contains progressive frames, so effectively the soft pulldown flags in HD DVD VC-1 streams are actually a defect, i.e. they indicate a framerate of 29.97 telecined while actually the bitstream contains true 23.976 progressive frames.

There is a good reason why eac3to 2.x started to remove the soft pulldown flags by default. ;)

It used to work, and now it doesn't. That's a bug, and ideally it should be fixed, regardless of format equivocations.

Also, the vast majority of MPC-HC users are not Doom9-fiends with a working knowledge of telecine issues and eac3to workarounds.

[73ChargerFan]

I wonder if you didn't get the memo that HD-DVD is deader than a doornail...

np: The Future Sound Of London - Pulse State (831 AM Mix) (Future Sound Of London - The Pulse EPs)

There are millions and millions of hd-dvds out there. I've got 300, and don't want to sell each for $5 only to buy the same disk on bd for $25.

Also, there are billions of doornails still in use. You don't hear chants "throw away your obsolete hammers", do you?

PS - I enjoy your posts, love your np, but am attached to my hd-dvds.

[Leak]

PS - I enjoy your posts, love your np, but am attached to my hd-dvds.
Eh, no worries - like I wrote above, I overestimated the size of that request... :)

np: Tocotronic - Es Ist Egal, Aber (Es Ist Egal, Aber)

[73ChargerFan]

I respectfully disagree. The flags are never needed for any HD DVD and Blu-ray VC-1 progressive videos becauseYeah, yeah, blu-ray did it right, nah-nah nih nah-nah, and I'll have to live with my poor choices.:devil:

The disks in question are standards and requirements compliant, and play correctly on hardware players. They are not faulty.
It used to work, and now it doesn't. That's a bug, and ideally it should be fixed, regardless of format equivocations.

Also, the vast majority of MPC-HC users are not Doom9-fiends with a working knowledge of telecine issues and eac3to workarounds.
+1

[Casimir666]

@Casimir666,

In 1008 these titles (almost certainly with "soft" 3:2 pulldown flags still in place) are correctly determined by the DXVA decoder (using an ATI 3850 and Cat 9.2) as progressive and playback is smooth. From 1009 the stream is treated as interlaced and playback is horrid!
Ok i have done a change in build 1009 to read interlaced flag in VC1 bitstream. But this flag is not supposed to be set in progressive stream :confused:


I have a 30MB clip I can send you if you have an ftp address or I can upload to you direct using Windows Messenger. PM me if you need it.
Could you upload the sample on zshare?

[Jong]

Ok i have done a change in build 1009 to read interlaced flag in VC1 bitstream. But this flag is not supposed to be set in progressive stream :confused:

Could you upload the sample on zshare?Great, thanks. Let me know when I can test.

Sample is here: http://www.zshare.net/download/579339963f8d2dfb/

Can you let me know when you have it so I can take it down.

AFAIK all HD-DVD progressive streams have "soft" 3:2 pulldown data. eac3to can strip it out, but originally didn't by default. A lot of people who ripped their HD-DVDs around the time the format died will have the flags there. And if there is ever a chance that MPC-HC will be able to play an HD-DVD main movie from "disc" as it can for Blu-ray then MPC-HC will need to be able to cope.

[rack04]

Could you upload the sample on zshare?

Here (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1LDE6U6U) is a sample. Let me know if this works for you.

[Casimir666]

Ok I reinstall my ATI board to test VC1 problem : now i have 2 graphics cards (an nVidia + on ATI), both connected to a different monitor. Windows 7 recognized the main monitor (which is connected to the second PCI-E slot !), and mpc support H264 on my monitor and H264+VC1 on the TV !
:eek:

[mark0077]

Hi guys,

My True HD within .ts files bug is still in the latest version 1024. I have another problem / bug. When trying to open an avi file I get a big "AVI Chunk Viewer" saying "This AVI file was not prepared for sequential reading, etc etc etc".

When i click OK, media player classic crashes.

1) Why can't mpc-hc read this by default
2) It shouldn't crash in any case
3) Did any of you get a chance to try and fix the True HD problem, I have found 3 people here that have the same problem, front right channel going mute.

[Casimir666]

Great, thanks. Let me know when I can test.

Sample is here: http://www.zshare.net/download/579339963f8d2dfb/

Can you let me know when you have it so I can take it down.

AFAIK all HD-DVD progressive streams have "soft" 3:2 pulldown data. eac3to can strip it out, but originally didn't by default. A lot of people who ripped their HD-DVDs around the time the format died will have the flags there. And if there is ever a chance that MPC-HC will be able to play an HD-DVD main movie from "disc" as it can for Blu-ray then MPC-HC will need to be able to cope.

Ok fixed

[Jong]

Wow, what service. Thank you.