Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[clsid]

to clsid - in your most recent change projects, you are STRONGLY wrong.
You should include ALL extensions, supported by MPC - and then you can disable the code unnecessary expansion and build a library.
I am agreeable with you Aleksoid1978. User must have the complete set of expansions for the association with different type files…
Tell me which icon files you guys would like to see used for which file extensions, and I shall make the changes. For many file extensions there is no specific icon. Should I then for example use the WMV icon for .asf files? Maybe we could add a generic video icon and a generic audio icon?

Currently there are icons for .dvdf and .dvda, but I don't think that are actual existing file extensions. Shall I remove those two?

[leeperry]

Currently there are icons for .dvdf and .dvda, but I don't think that are actual existing file extensions. Shall I remove those two?
sorry to interrupt, but would that be possible to have nice colorful icons for PLAY/PAUSE/STOP and for the volume too ? I can provide them.
and being able to choose the main skin color would be great too :cool:

[Aleksoid1978]

Tell me which icon files you guys would like to see used for which file extensions, and I shall make the changes. For many file extensions there is no specific icon. Should I then for example use the WMV icon for .asf files? Maybe we could add a generic video icon and a generic audio icon?

Currently there are icons for .dvdf and .dvda, but I don't think that are actual existing file extensions. Shall I remove those two?

You simply do as it was originally, when the same type (icon) may be several extensions:
(from source):
type - extensions
-----------------
("wmv"), _T("wmv wmp wm asf")
("wma"), _T("wma")
("avi"), _T("avi")
("wav"), _T("wav")
("mpg"), _T("mpg mpeg mpe m1v m2v mpv2 mp2v ts tp tpr pva pss m2ts m2t mts evo")
("mpa"), _T("mpa mp2 m1a m2a")
("dvdf"), _T("vob ifo")
("dvda"), _T("ac3 dts")
("mp3"), _T("mp3")
("mid"), _T("mid midi rmi")
("ivf"), _T("ivf")
("aiff"), _T("aif aifc aiff")
("au"), _T("au snd")
("ogm"), _T("ogm ogv")
("ogg"), _T("ogg oga")
("cda"), _T("cda")
("flic"), _T("fli flc flic")
("d2v"), _T("d2v")
("mp4"), _T("mp4 m4v hdmov 3gp 3gpp")
("aac"), _T("m4a m4b aac")
("mkv"), _T("mkv")
("mka"), _T("mka")
("bik"), _T("smk bik")
("ratdvd"),_T("ratdvd")
("roq"), _T("roq")
("rm"), _T("rm ram rpm rmm")
("ra"), _T("ra")
("rt"), _T("rt rp smi smil")
("drc"), _T("drc")
("dsm"), _T("dsm dsv dsa dss")
("mpc"), _T("mpc")
("flac"), _T("flac")
("alac"), _T("alac")
("flv"), _T("flv")
("swf"), _T("swf")
("mov"), _T("mov qt amr 3g2 3gp2")
("jpeg"), _T("jpeg jpg bmp gif pic png dib tiff tif")
("pls"), _T("asx m3u pls wvx wax wmx mpcpl")
("other"),_T("divx vp6 rmvb amv")

for sample, if extension in this group - "mpg mpeg mpe m1v m2v mpv2 mp2v ts tp tpr pva pss m2ts m2t mts evo" - Use mpg.ico, as i do it in begin.
And then people can make their changes in the code, remove unwanted icons

[clsid]

I have just added all extensions to the code. I will restore the old behavior of icon associations, using same icon for whole group. I think it would be useful if some additional icons are made for common file extensions such as .ts, .3gp and .m4a.

[alexins]

clsid, I am ready yet to draw icons, for this I need a list of file extensions that you would like to add.

[MatMaul]

here is a new test version :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/mpc-hc/mplayerc_test_nvidia_2.zip
if someone with old drivers can check that this version fallback in software mode with L5.1 streams.
here is a L5.1 stream to test :
http://www.etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~mvelten/bordel/test_hd_9refs.mp4

[clsid]

clsid, I am ready yet to draw icons, for this I need a list of file extensions that you would like to add.For start: .ts .3gp .m4a .wv .m3u
And generic icons for 'video' and 'audio' would be useful as well.
Maybe others here want icons for even more extensions.

How useful are the 256x256 icons? Because with many icons the DLL will get huge.

[clsid]

MPC-HC 1.1.862 + two iconlibs (http://www.zshare.net/download/50923449edf540c1/)

[Mercury_22]

Since we're talking icons how 'bout a different icon for the 64-bit version ( even if it will not be used for the moment ) :helpful:

[alexins]

Since we're talking icons how 'bout a different icon for the 64-bit version ( even if it will not be used for the moment ) :helpful:
Here a variant icon for MPC-HC x64, x64.ico (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/clsid/x64.7z)

[zilexa]

I have a question. Why does MPC-HC support DXVA for H.264 and VC-1 only? Why not also MPEG4? A lot of tv-shows are only available in mpeg4. I have a 780G wich could easily take over the decoding process of these video files.

[nurbs]

h.264 is also MPEG4 (Part 10/AVC). DXVA can only accelerate what the graphics hardware can accelerate and that's in most cases Mpeg2, VC-1 and AVC.

[Mercury_22]

Here a variant icon for MPC-HC x64, x64.ico (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/clsid/x64.7z)

I don't think it can be easy enough differntiate from the 32-bit ico !
One good option it's the ico from your site http://xvidvideo.ru/ very easy to differentiate from the 32-bit version (or just change the background in the 32-bit ico from white to black) :thanks:

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 862 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/361/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 862 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/360/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg; Updated iconlib

[kutjong]

I have a question. Why does MPC-HC support DXVA for H.264 and VC-1 only? Why not also MPEG4? A lot of tv-shows are only available in mpeg4. I have a 780G wich could easily take over the decoding process of these video files.
MPEG-4 ASP decoding doesn't tax the cpu very much, in which case dxva isn't really needed.

[loretta80]

Hi,
is there a possibility to put 1280 x 720 32pp 24Hz (or multiple of it) in the fullscreen resolution menu?

Or can somebody tell me how i get a PT-AE 900 beamer with ati 2600 pciE to work in 720p24? I used to use reclock but that isnt a good solution for different kind of movies.

System Winxp Sp3 Ati 8.10CCC, Mpc HC 857x86

[Klaus_1250]

I have the same card but from HIS Digital. When I've had issues, it's always been the video driver. You'll probably need to go up or down versions until you find the stable one that works for everything.

I had the same issues with PowerDVD with AVC blu-ray titles and green artifacting. There's also an AGP hotfix for this card that you should consider getting. It's available directly from AMD/ATI from their support web site.

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=31542

After I applied the 8.9 hotfix, I've had no issues at all. I think the current version is 8.10. Good luck.

Thanx for your answer! I'm already using the hotfix versions, at least untill 8.9 (can't even use the normal drivers). For 8.10 I'm trying the DNA-drivers.

But I'm not sure the drivers are they issue. All games work ok and Cyberlink h264/vc-1 works ok (unless it are h264 files @ level 5.1). The only problem I have is I cannot easily configure MPC-HC to use a non-DXVA h264 decoder for certain files.

I've been looking through the changelog and MPC-HC does seem to have code for this. It just isn't right for my particular card and I want to find a way to solve this. Isn't there a MPC-HC dev here?

[Chumbo]

Thanx for your answer! I'm already using the hotfix versions, at least untill 8.9 (can't even use the normal drivers). For 8.10 I'm trying the DNA-drivers.

But I'm not sure the drivers are they issue. All games work ok and Cyberlink h264/vc-1 works ok (unless it are h264 files @ level 5.1). The only problem I have is I cannot easily configure MPC-HC to use a non-DXVA h264 decoder for certain files.

I've been looking through the changelog and MPC-HC does seem to have code for this. It just isn't right for my particular card and I want to find a way to solve this. Isn't there a MPC-HC dev here?
It was the same with me, i.e., PowerDVD had issues, but MPC HC did not.

You can choose to use Cyberlink's h264 decoder rather than the MPC built-in one. Once you do that, you can then turn off DXVA via Cyberlink's properties. Just right-click and select it from the Filters list and uncheck the use DXVA box. Or, leave DXVA on since you say PowerDVD doesn't have this problem, so you should be okay there.

BTW, there is a new 8.10 agp hotfix out now too. Good luck.

[Keiyakusha]

alexins
Please, can you add a checkbox "Don't create a Start Menu folder" to the MPC-HC installer?

[haxor2099]

anyone else having problems downloading that latest web installer?
it just says it couldnt connect to download the needed files :|
(note, the installation file is downloaded fine, but when you run it, it does nothing and then pops an error )

[rack04]

I recently attached a iso file using Alcohol 120 and use MPC-HC to playback using File-Open Disc. Now everytime I click on the file menu there is a 5-10 second pause before the drop down opens. This doesn't happen with View, Play, Navigate, Favorites, or Help. Is there anyway that MPC-HC is stills searching for the attached iso even though it is not attached anymore? Or could something else be the problem?

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 866 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/365/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 866 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/366/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

FIX : rev.854 ffmpeg; FIX : bug in mpciconlib, all associated formats NOT show rigth icons in explorer(only main mpc-hc icon for all types); CHANGE : MpcVideDec.ax x64 version now use libavcodec_gcc.lib(mingw64); FIX : ffmpeg, MpcVideoDec.ax not linked in x64 version using libavcodec_gcc.lib(mingw64).

[tetsuo55]

I think its pretty clear that the dxva rewrite of the ATI catalyst driver that was implemented in 8.6 changed the way DXVA decoding works.

MPC-HC will have to be updated to support the new way of passing the slices on the to GPU.

The bad thing is i have no idea what the changed, its not even in the changelog (but the dxva dll files size and date where changed)

As has been mentioned before, PowerDVD does not use the now defunct method of passing slices to the decoder. So that keeps on working perfectly.

We definately need some help in finding out what MPC-HC is doing wrong here.

All the current bugs, random macroblocks, stutters and green/red flashes all have to do with this difference between powerdvd.

Also AGP cards are effected worse than PCI-E models. No problems with PowerDVD though.

[alexins]

alexins
Please, can you add a checkbox "Don't create a Start Menu folder" to the MPC-HC installer?

I will do so in the next assembling.

[Rectal Prolapse]

Just a quick question: Does MPC-HC support external PGS (ie. Blu-ray subtitle) files?

Thanks!

[s174955]

I think its pretty clear that the dxva rewrite of the ATI catalyst driver that was implemented in 8.6 changed the way DXVA decoding works.

MPC-HC will have to be updated to support the new way of passing the slices on the to GPU.
The bad thing is i have no idea what the changed, its not even in the changelog (but the dxva dll files size and date where changed)
As has been mentioned before, PowerDVD does not use the now defunct method of passing slices to the decoder. So that keeps on working perfectly.
We definately need some help in finding out what MPC-HC is doing wrong here.
All the current bugs, random macroblocks, stutters and green/red flashes all have to do with this difference between powerdvd.
Also AGP cards are effected worse than PCI-E models. No problems with PowerDVD though.

Those issues you mention sound very familiar to me with a MSI HD2600pro agp on xp, but on vista I have no such problems at all (with dxva compatible movies that is).
Would be great it it worked similar in XP!

[noee]

I think its pretty clear that the dxva rewrite of the ATI catalyst driver that was implemented in 8.6 changed the way DXVA decoding works.

.....

All the current bugs, random macroblocks, stutters and green/red flashes all have to do with this difference between powerdvd.

Also AGP cards are effected worse than PCI-E models. No problems with PowerDVD though.

Fwiw, I am on XPSP3 with CCC8.10 on MSI HD2600XT and DXVA is working great with my x264-encoded MKV SD material. I see none of the issues you mention.

[Ultra2D]

Just tested svn 866 (x64), Vista with CCC8.10 on HD4850 (PCI-E). Still a lot of corruption when playing a 720p TV episode. DXVA works pretty well with movies (720p or 1080p) though.
Only working catalyst version for me is 8.7, last time I tried.

[Joniii]

Why is there small green line on bottom of the picture with all H.264 files (mkv and m2ts) when using ffmpeg in mpc video decoder?

mpc video decoder v866
radeon 4850

[Aleksoid1978]

Why is there small green line on bottom of the picture with all H.264 files (mkv and m2ts) when using ffmpeg in mpc video decoder?

mpc video decoder v866
radeon 4850

For me is all okey. With DXVA and without. Vista x64 SP1, EVR custom

[Joniii]

For me is all okey. With DXVA and without. Vista x64 SP1, EVR custom

It's in WMP11 and VMC. Vista SP1 x86.

[Keiyakusha]

I will do so in the next assembling.

Thanks!

[Shinigami-Sama]

All the current bugs, random macroblocks, stutters and green/red flashes all have to do with this difference between powerdvd.

Also AGP cards are effected worse than PCI-E models. No problems with PowerDVD though.

yeah I just updated my MPC-hc to one of the newer ones posted here and one of my files that played 100% is now doing some funny things with random corruption and green macroblocks up till an I-frame and then it snaps back, I'll try again with the older release tommorrow 'cause today is a 12hour day X.x

[rt87]

I will do so in the next assembling.

Would you please compile standalone filters for x86/x64?

[alexins]

Would you please compile standalone filters for x86/x64?

For revision 867?

[mashles]

I am finding that DXVA only works when I load a video from locally attached disks. If i load from my NAS (the exact same video and same settings), DXVA is disabled. Apologies if this has been mentioned before, I searched the thread but couldnt find anything.

[roozhou]

Can anyone explain this strange problem with DXVA?

I am using:
8500GT 512M + 178.24
WinXP SP3 + DirectX Nov 2008
MPC-HC r867

I can play 720p H264 with DXVA enabled. But for 1920x1080 H264, DXVA is disabled. So I reencode the video using x264 at various resolutions. And as long as video width <= 1856, DXVA is OK even at level 5.1. But for video width > 1856, DXVA will be turned off. I tested under Overlay Mixer and VMR7/9 and they gave me the same result.

And for VC1, DXVA is disabled at any resolution.

[yesgrey]

if someone with old drivers can check that this version fallback in software mode with L5.1 streams.

I have GF 8600GT with 175.16 drivers, will update today to the new drivers.
Tested the L5.1 stream you linked and it's working in software mode, no DXVA.

[ghostonline]

Can anyone explain this strange problem with DXVA?

I am using:
8500GT 512M + 178.24
WinXP SP3 + DirectX Nov 2008
MPC-HC r867

I can play 720p H264 with DXVA enabled. But for 1920x1080 H264, DXVA is disabled. So I reencode the video using x264 at various resolutions. And as long as video width <= 1856, DXVA is OK even at level 5.1. But for video width > 1856, DXVA will be turned off. I tested under Overlay Mixer and VMR7/9 and they gave me the same result.

And for VC1, DXVA is disabled at any resolution.

mpc-hc r867 works fine here with 1080p h264 in dxva.

btw, afaik, 8500gt doesn't support vc1 in dxva.

[ikarad]

There is a bug with MPC home cinema under VISTA and subtitles.
I use mpc home cinema + vobusb (2.38) to see subtitles.
Under XP there isn't delay between video and subtitles but under vista there is nearly two seconds.

I notice that when i launch .vob files (or .ifo file which miss pub) instead of using "launch dvd function" there isn't delay between video and subtitles under vista but when I use "launch dvd function" under vista there is a delay of two seconds and consequently subtitles are delayed.

I try all version of mpc home cinema but there is the same problem.

I would like to know if this bug is known and if this bug will be corrected in a new version of mpc home cinema.

I try with two différent PC under vista and there is the same problem.

french version:
"Il y a un bug de MPC home cinema sous vista.
j'utilise mpc home cinema (1.604) et vobsub (2.38 vsfilter).

J'ai remarqué que quand on utilise la fonction "lancer dvd" dans mpc home cinema sous vista il y a un décalage de 2 secondes environ entre l'image et les sous titres (l'image est en retard de 2 secondes) alors que sous xp avec cette même fonction il n'y a pas de décalage.

Par contre sous vista si on lance le dvd avec les .vob ou le .ifo qui saute les pubs du début le décalage n'apparait plus. Sous xp par contre il n'y aucun problème quelque soit la méthode utilisée pour regarder le dvd.

j'ai essayé avec différentes versions de mpc home cinema et c'est le même problème.

J'ai aussi essayé avec d'autres dvds (ce sont des dvd d'anime jap et américain) et il y a toujours le même décalage sous vista et aucun décalage sous xp.

J'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un l'a déjà remarqué et si c'est possible que ce problème soit corrigé dans une future version

PS: j'ai essayé sur 2 pcs avec vista (pour voir si ça provenait pas de mon pc) et c'est le même problème"

[Miryan]

You dont have to use vobsub and MPCHC, because MPCHC already has a subtitling engine.

[Kado]

You can't see the subtitles from a DVD with the internal engine if mpeg-2 dxva is used, only in software mode.
I prefer the internal engine anyway, too bad for the dropped frames when you set the buffer to zero and use styled subs like ssa/ass.

[ikarad]

You dont have to use vobsub and MPCHC, because MPCHC already has a subtitling engine.

with or without vobsub there is the same problem. The porblem come from MPC-HC under vista ant not from vobsub.(under xp it works very well)

Morover subtitle engine of mpc HC doesn't work with separated subtitle like those I own. Consequently vobsub is the only software that works (Also, subtitle function offfdshow doesn't work in this case).

subtitle engine of mpc HC isn't a good solution for all situations.

You can't see the subtitles from a DVD with the internal engine if mpeg-2 dxva is used, only in software mode.
I prefer the internal engine anyway, too bad for the dropped frames when you set the buffer to zero and use styled subs like ssa/ass.
even in sofware mode it's impossible to see subtitles with DVD if subtitles are separated (not included in dvd)

[rt87]

For revision 867?

yes, please.

[p0w3rh0u5e]

Mmmmh, something totally different, just a thought, what could be added in the future: support for 3D/Stereoscopic Movies! ;)

I think it would be great to add it to mpc hc, because there are'nt much solutions for stereoscopic movie playback available, and especially nothing on the freeware/opensource-sector.

3D is a growing market, hollywood tries to establish it (again), playback-devices are getting better and widely available, camcorders are getting cheaper and cheaper (buy two of them, add a lanc-synchronizer, and start making your own 3D-movies) and people will want more than "just" FullHD, when they come out of a digital 3D-cinema. ;)

This basically means MPC would have to handle two synchronized videostreams (left/right) and prepare the output for different 3D-techniques. The streams could come from different files or from one file with two videostreams (maybe this could be an addition to the mkv specs?). Well, in a far future it could come from a single videostream too, i guess that would make the encoding more efficient...

I think for the start it would be great to support NVIDIAs stereoscopic driver for output (Does ATI have something similar? I dont't know.) and two files/streams for input. Internal HW-independent "3D-Renderers" (for red/blue etc.) could be added later...

Well, have a look at this player, to get a better idea what could be done:
http://www.berezin.com/3D/stereoscopic_player.htm

Like i said, this is just something i was thinking about (because i'm going to experiment with 3D-movie-making soon), i don't even call it a feature-request, because i'm not going to request it. ;) Just think about it and lets talk...

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 867 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/371/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 867 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/370/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

add drivers version detection for the support of level 5.1 on nvidia cards

[rack04]

I recently attached a iso file using Alcohol 120 and use MPC-HC to playback using File-Open Disc. Now everytime I click on the file menu there is a 5-10 second pause before the drop down opens. This doesn't happen with View, Play, Navigate, Favorites, or Help. Is there anyway that MPC-HC is stills searching for the attached iso even though it is not attached anymore? Or could something else be the problem?

Is anyone else having this problem. I'm experiencing this on multiple computers.

[nlnl]

I have Vista 32, MPC HC 1.1.853 , WMV decoder , madflac, Haali Renderer and can not play m2ts (D. Guilmour 'Remember the night') with VC-1 interlaced video 1080i@60 and PCM audio. The same with C. Dion 'A new day'.
I remuxed everything in mkv transcoding audio in Flac but the issue is still here.
Could you help :thanks:

[Steveo08]

is there a trick or a bugfux, that black will be "black" and not grey-black with EVR custon?

and does anyone know, if there's a hotkey for vobsub to enable oder disable subtitels?

[leeperry]

is there a trick or a bugfux, that black will be "black" and not grey-black with EVR custon?
a dirty fix is to copy evr.dll from Vista RTM, or on nvidia cards you can force TV levels in the drivers I think.