Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[STaRGaZeR]

@STaRGaZeR
"A=-1.0" is the highest value possible, i.e., the most sharp possible, AFAIK.

Damn, it gives the most natural sharpening effect for me. Too bad the limit is -1.0 .

[raynor]

Regarding the DVD crasher bug:

Is it fixed in this build ? :
http://www.zshare.net/download/19993928ce9df4ff/

Yes, it seems to be fixed in that build.
Playing DVDs works flawlessly again. :)
Thanks Casimir!

Best regards,
Raynor

[marc99]

NVidia official WHQL drivers 178.13 were just released today. It now appears to fully support 1080p files with more than 4 reference frames.

I tested some samples and it's working. Max DPB limit gone. 11+ limit still exist.

[Tima]

clsid suggested to crosspost it here.

I have an issue with frame decoding accuracy.

Originally, I had a problem with VirtualDub frame decoding accuracy. Problem is described here (http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=16216), and has been fully resolved by switching from ffdshow to official Xvid decoder.

Seems that MPC is still affected with this issue even with official decoder -- on my real-life video, when it's asked to show frame x, it shows frame x+1.

[JohnLai]

Regarding the DVD crasher bug:



Yes, it seems to be fixed in that build.
Playing DVDs works flawlessly again. :)
Thanks Casimir!

Best regards,
Raynor

Same here~

[chros]

Is Leadtek 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E supported by MPC regarding DXVA?

I want to change my 7600GT to something cheap...
If anyone has this card, I'd appriciete some feedback ...
(I'm using WinXP SP2)

Thanks

[marc99]

Now it's possible to use GPU decode h264/AVC (VC1=?) video with post processing and/or software subtitles (VSFilter).

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141104&page=27
http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=1391

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7001/dxvavsfilterxv5.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dxvavsfilterxv5.jpg)http://img143.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[Kado]

@chros
It's supposed to work, it has the same decoding engine as my 9800gtx but with additional vc1 decoding i think

[GTPVHD]

9800(G92), 9600(G94), 9500(G96), GTX200 GPUs all don't support VC-1 bitstream processing, only H.264. G98 GPU, Geforce 8200/8300 AMD IGP chipsets and upcoming Geforce 9300/9400 Intel IGP chipsets are the only Nvidia GPUs that support VC-1 bitstream processing in addition to H.264. The Nvidia Intel and AMD IGP chipsets also support MPEG-2 bitstream processing, G98 GPU does not support MPEG-2 bitstream processing as far as I know.

[STaRGaZeR]

ATI chips don't support MPEG-2 bitstream processing.

[Inferi0r]

Feature request:

By Keys (in Options) you can't set a Hotkey of remote command for 'Minimize the player'. Hopefully can this one added?

[Leak]

Feature request:

By Keys (in Options) you can't set a Hotkey of remote command for 'Minimize the player'. Hopefully can this one added?
Try the "Boss key" command... ;)

np: Capracara - Opal Rush (Soul Jazz Records Singles 2006-2007 (Disc 1))

[ooferomen]

9800(G92), 9600(G94), 9500(G96), GTX200 GPUs all don't support VC-1 bitstream processing, only H.264. G98 GPU, Geforce 8200/8300 AMD IGP chipsets and upcoming Geforce 9300/9400 Intel IGP chipsets are the only Nvidia GPUs that support VC-1 bitstream processing in addition to H.264. The Nvidia Intel and AMD IGP chipsets also support MPEG-2 bitstream processing, G98 GPU does not support MPEG-2 bitstream processing as far as I know.

G98 does support MPEG-2 bitstream, same as the IGPs

[Casimir666]

Now it's possible to use GPU decode h264/AVC (VC1=?) video with post processing and/or software subtitles (VSFilter).

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141104&page=27
http://www.geeks3d.com/?p=1391

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7001/dxvavsfilterxv5.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dxvavsfilterxv5.jpg)http://img143.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

:eek:
I'm impressed and did not seem how this can be possible (at least without VSFilter modifications)??

[marc99]

This is new feature of CUDA. :)

[Kurtnoise]

did you mux or not your subtitle file with the video ?

or did you use vsfilter in your avs script ?

[marc99]

At this moment is not possible to use conteiner.
VSFilter autoload subtitle file (the same name, not in avs script).

[Leak]

:eek:
I'm impressed and did not seem how this can be possible (at least without VSFilter modifications)??
AFAIK he's using neuron2's CUDA-assisted AVC decoder in an AviSynth script.

It's a neat hack, but having to create an AVS file for every file you want to watch is hardly consumer-friendly, and it'll only work on nVidia cards to boot... i.e. the video gets decoded (mainly) in the graphics card's shaders, then the image is read back into RAM, VSfilter applies the subtitles and the image goes back to video RAM...

np: Secondo - We Got It Like That (Soul Jazz Records Singles 2006-2007 (Disc 3))

[tetsuo55]

Can i enable the YV12 Chroma Upsampling pixel shader permanently for all videos on my ATI card.

Is there any reason to not use it?

[SCRATCHY]

anyone know why Gabest MKV Splitter does random silences on 1.5mbit/s DTS soundtracks ? is that possible to fix ?

thanks

[boyumeow]

My problem: checking whether realmedia is the problem or myself again...

1) .rm is played but only 1 channel is decode (file is confirmed to be 2channels using MediaInfo776), was selected to realmedia under the MPC options-Player-formats. When it was renamed to .rmvb, no sound is heard (maybe its b'cos of the audio code G.722.1 real player 6), MPC options-Player-Formats-DirectShow.
2) If .rmvb(2channels) is play (MPC options-Player-Formats-realmedia), only 1channel is decode.

My computer info: Vista32, real player 11 is installed (shared computer as my brother prefer real player), creative audigy sound card, ffdshow tryouts 2180.
Thanks.

Edit: Seems like real player 11 is the problem, I have uninstalled it and play normal with real player 10 installed. Thanks.

Edit2: Forget about my previous edit, same problem too, get it decode correctly when I select to Formats-DirectShow. Thanks again.

[Snowknight26]

When I play back a VOB, if I drag and drop another VOB onto MPC-HC x64, it will continue to play both. If I hit stop, only one of them stops. If I hit close file, only one of them closes.

Infact, if I hit close while one of the VOBs are playing, it still plays but supposedly closes the file anyway - all the controls are disabled yet its still going.

Rawr. This annoying issue keeps popping up, but it seems to (only?) happen with the splitter that comes with MPC-HC. Any word?

[kthxbye]

I have a problem. I am using MPC HC to play an .MKV file which contains built-in subtitles. I am using a Sony Vaio FW11S, with a Radeon HD3470 videocard (with Avivo). DXVA works, CPU usage is between 10 - 20% when playing the file and in the MPC decoder properties it says "H.264 bitstream decoder, no FGT" behind DXVA Mode. I am using "EVR custom pres."
Subtitles do not work though. They are loaded, but do not display properly! I see that they are being displayed, but they are displayed as reverted, upside down, little letters in the top of the movie. Yesterday when I tried to watch a movie, they were in the bottom right side. They are the subtitles, because they pop up at the times someone is talking, at the times that the subs should display. See screenshot:

http://xs232.xs.to/xs232/08403/wrongsubsdxva289.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs232&d=08403&f=wrongsubsdxva289.jpg)

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

[Miryan]

I have a problem. I am using MPC HC to play an .MKV file which contains built-in subtitles. I am using a Sony Vaio FW11S, with a Radeon HD3470 videocard (with Avivo). DXVA works, CPU usage is between 10 - 20% when playing the file and in the MPC decoder properties it says "H.264 bitstream decoder, no FGT" behind DXVA Mode. I am using "EVR custom pres."
Subtitles do not work though. They are loaded, but do not display properly! I see that they are being displayed, but they are displayed as reverted, upside down, little letters in the top of the movie. Yesterday when I tried to watch a movie, they were in the bottom right side. They are the subtitles, because they pop up at the times someone is talking, at the times that the subs should display. See screenshot:

http://xs232.xs.to/xs232/08403/wrongsubsdxva289.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs232&d=08403&f=wrongsubsdxva289.jpg)

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

I had the same problem, with an older version of MPC HC. Try using the latest from http://www.xvidvideo.ru .

[kthxbye]

I had the same problem, with an older version of MPC HC. Try using the latest from http://www.xvidvideo.ru .

Thanks. I am trying the latest version (v 1.1.818.0). If I load the file now, subtitles do play without it using VobSub, but it uses the CoreAVC decoder. If I disable all input formats in CCCP settings and CoreCodec settings, the video does not load in MPC HC, it just plays the audio!)

:(

[kthxbye]

I got it to work by checking the box next to "H264/AVC (DXVA)" in the options menu under the Internal Filter > Transform Filters field. Nice! :D

[TechFreak]

hi guys

when i play files and use EVR Custom, my audio is out of sync.
with evr custom in d3d mode it's better. but not every time.

i need evr custom for hw acceleration and subtitles.

tried ffdshow instead of the internal decoder, same problem.

can someone help me please?

thx

hw: Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H (onboard ATI Radeon HD 3300), AMD Athlon 4850e, 4GB Ram

sw: Vista SP1 64-Bit, mpc-hc (x86) svn 818, reclock 1.8.1.8, realtek hd audio 2.05 (spdif out), Catalyst 8.9

http://www.getpic.info/thumbs/evrcustom4b8626a0png.png (http://www.getpic.info/?image=evrcustom4b8626a0png.png)

[professor_desty_nova]

I just noticed a problem. I have a DVR, and if I burn something to a DVD-R, I can seek the video, but if I burn the same thing to a DVD+R I can't seek it. This happens in MPC and MPC-HC (1.1.818.0). There is though a difference between the DVD-R and the DVD+R. The DVD-R has a VIDEO_TS folder, but the DVD+R has a VIDEO_TS and a VIDEO_RM folders. Could this be the cause?
I can upload a sample if needed.

PS: I can seek the DVD+R in PowerDVD and VLC.

[bmnot]

Anyone know why I get choppy .m2ts playback with the latest builds from xvidvideo.ru? It's not the internal decoders, because when I use Haali as the splitter, no matter what video and audio filters I use, it plays back perfectly. But as soon as I use the internal mpchc ts splitter everything is choppy for m2ts, no matter. If I use the mpc splitter in zoomplayer instead of haali, m2ts playback is choppy in there as well.

Hrm, I noticed that when I use the MPC HC ts splitter for m2ts, when I load the haali renderer OSD to check the specified framerate, it jumps around between 8fps and 14fps, but it says the achieved framerate is ~23.976. When using the Haali splitter the specified framerate and achieved frame is the correct fps of 23.976. I think this might be the cause for the choppy m2ts playback im getting. Anyone know a fix for this?

[Casshern]

which catalyst do you use that works? I tried 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, 8.9....
Interestingly:
The cyberlink decoder with DXVA works with VMR 9 (renderless) in PowerDVD
but even the cyberlink decoder gives the same jumping frames in zoomplayer/mediaplayer hc when using VMR 9 renderless and DXVA

I think the problem has two components:
1) somehow Powerdvd initializes VMR 9 renderless differently to MPC HC (and ZOOMPLAYER) so it works regardless of catalyst driver
2) certain versions of catalyst driver (yours) work with the initialization of VMR 9 by MPC HC and ZOOMPLAYER

But as 8.9 doesnt work for me with VMR 9, maybe ATI thinks that powerdvds initilization is the correct way.... maybe that should be incorporated in MPC HC...

I now also tried Catalyst 8.10 RC2 and still no luck. The garbled/jumping frames remain when using DXVA and VMR9 renderless under WinXP (2600 PRO HD AGP). As nobody here got that combination working and Powerdvd with VMR9 with DXVA works i tend to think its a bug in MPCHC. Probably VMR9 renderless needs to be initialized differently for the ATI DXVA engine. Maybe somebody can look into this?

[mikegun]

@casshern

same here !

[s174955]

@casshern

same here !

And here (the only reason why I switched to Vista)

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 839 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/306/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 839 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/307/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Slovak translation: all the new todo strings were translated; Update Traditional Chinese translation; Fix : remember position not working on some DVDs.

[Shinigami-Sama]

I now also tried Catalyst 8.10 RC2 and still no luck. The garbled/jumping frames remain when using DXVA and VMR9 renderless under WinXP (2600 PRO HD AGP). As nobody here got that combination working and Powerdvd with VMR9 with DXVA works i tend to think its a bug in MPCHC. Probably VMR9 renderless needs to be initialized differently for the ATI DXVA engine. Maybe somebody can look into this?

confirmed
I have similar issues on my asus AH3650 AGP
sometimes the file just randomly corrupts
sometimes the video stops and shows a single/partial/corrupt frame even though the audio still plays
sometimes I can't seek

other times the video plays 100% perfect
EVR(custom) won't use DXVA either
would be nice if haali supported DXVA but I don't see that happening though

[Mercury_22]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 839 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/306/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 839 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/307/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Slovak translation: all the new todo strings were translated; Update Traditional Chinese translation; Fix : remember position not working on some DVDs.

Subtitles are broken with SVN 839 & EVR custom !:helpful:

[tetsuo55]

confirmed
I have similar issues on my asus AH3650 AGP
sometimes the file just randomly corrupts
sometimes the video stops and shows a single/partial/corrupt frame even though the audio still plays
sometimes I can't seek

other times the video plays 100% perfect
EVR(custom) won't use DXVA either
would be nice if haali supported DXVA but I don't see that happening though
I have 0 problems with my hd2400pro agp+winxp with cvatalyst 8,6 hotfix (shows as 8,5 in the system screen)

[Kado]

@Mercury_22
Subtitles work fine on xp 32bit + mpc rev 839 + EVR CP (from vista sp1). Will try tomorrow on vista 32bit.

[Mercury_22]

@Mercury_22
Subtitles work fine on xp 32bit + mpc rev 839 + EVR CP (from vista sp1). Will try tomorrow on vista 32bit.

Sorry I also had to specify: I'm trying to play a m2ts VC-1 high bitrate which has "internal" subtitles with external subtitles (.sub file) They are playing OK with VMR9 renderless for the same file

Strange though: subs with other files are playing ok with EVR custom :eek:

P.S. With v1.1.604.0 beside no subs I have some strange letters on top


EDIT: If I demux the m2ts with eac3to and add the sub file in the same folder I can play the VC-1 + AC3 + sub file(s) OK = subs are working ! What's happening ?

To recap :
original m2ts (VC-1 + AC3+ internal sub) + external sub = Subtitles NOT working with EVR Custom BUT working with VMR9 renderless
demuxed VC-1 + AC3 + external sub = Subtitles are working with EVR custom & VMR9 renderless :mad::stupid::helpful:

[Shinigami-Sama]

I have 0 problems with my hd2400pro agp+winxp with cvatalyst 8,6 hotfix (shows as 8,5 in the system screen)

forgot about that hotfix will try again soon

[3ngel]

Can PGS subtitle support be implemented in .mkv too?

In this way it would be easy to just remux directly from eac3to to mkv.

Thanks

[mikegun]

I have 0 problems with my hd2400pro agp+winxp with cvatalyst 8,6 hotfix (shows as 8,5 in the system screen)

where would I get an old hotfix driver ?

[Casshern]

where would I get an old hotfix driver ?

get them here:
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

[tetsuo55]

That site doesn't have the agp hotfix

http://www.4shared.com/account/file/57337561/a7c8d7a3/agp-hotfix_xp32_63478_2.html

[mikegun]

That site doesn't have the agp hotfix

http://www.4shared.com/account/file/57337561/a7c8d7a3/agp-hotfix_xp32_63478_2.html

:thanks:

[nautilus7]

Since ffdshow support for the new HD codecs (TrueHD and E-AC3) is almost finished, what about support for those inside .EVO files? Currently, neither mpc internal splitter or haali media splitter supports TrueHD inside EVO. :(

[ACrowley]

is there any Way to display Subtitles into m2ts yet ? Ive no Subtitles in any m2ts File

Is use latest Builds ,on Vista x64 with EVR custom Renderer. M2ts Files are untouched and/or Remuxed

[burfadel]

where would I get an old hotfix driver ?

Is there any reason why you would want to use a hotfix driver, since the hotfix is included in 8.7 through 8.9 anyway?

[mikegun]

tested the 8.6 hotfix driver : dxva with mpc-hc works with this driver but now dxva with cyberlink (at least for hd tv)
is broken :mad:
so I stay with latest cat and coreavc

[DarkZell666]

Is there any reason why you would want to use a hotfix driver, since the hotfix is included in 8.7 through 8.9 anyway?

Because v8.7+ breaks something else ? :p

[Casshern]

tested the 8.6 hotfix driver : dxva with mpc-hc works with this driver but now dxva with cyberlink (at least for hd tv)
is broken :mad:
so I stay with latest cat and coreavc

I now also tried the 8.6 hotfix driver. But i come to different conclusions. First the good:
1) At first it seems to work better - only very rarely there are the jumping/corrupted frame artifacts. But they are still there!
2) It seems as stable as 8.5 hotfix, so no blue screens

Now the bad:
1) it turns off the AGP Fast Write. This means that the card is much slower for all applications directly writing to the frame buffers: ffdshow, mame, etc.
2) you can check this with powerstrip or in the catalyst control center
3) if you turn AGP Fast Write back on, everything is like before: jumping frames and corruption with dxva and vmr9

Conclusion: ATIs workaround (turning of fast write for AGP) does not solve the problem but merely reduces it. In later drivers ATI enabled AGP Fast Write again, so this "fix" was not deemed to be appropiate. Powerdvd somehow manages to initialize the DXVA Engine/VMR9 so it works even with AGP Fastwrite on. Could some developer please look into this....

regards,
Casshern