Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[Carpo]

I think this happend only if DxVA is in use becouse of missing subpicture pin in EVR renderer.

Isnt EVR the same on both versions? Turned off dvxa and all is good again :)

[THX-UltraII]

having a problem that came with some versions ago (at least, i THINK that it s the problem!)

When playing .mov trailers no filters etc. are loaded anymore.

[LigH]

Then you probably let it get handled by QuickTime, not by DirectShow.

[hoborg]

Hi.

This MOV sample (http://www.filedropper.com/p1030423) (Pansonic Lumix camera) playing at wrong speed (DirectShow in use).

v0lt, i think this is your cup of tea :)

[niksus]

Why is MPC-HC so slow on shutting down? Trying to open another video while the player is still closing will delay it even more.Are you using the 'Store settings to .ini file' option?
What's the point here? I'm using .ini too and have the same delay. The .ini is only 40KB, how could it cause such a slowdown?

[khagaroth]

If I remember correctly, mpc was doing something stupid like opening and closing the ini file before/after each key written. I remember seeing some fix that tried to fix this, but don't remember how successful that was, or if it is included in mpc-hc.

[v0lt]

hoborg, I advise you to use LAVFSplitter for mov files. :)

Built-in MP4splitter has a problem with the sound with the old mov files. I could not solve it.

[hoborg]

hoborg, I advise you to use LAVFSplitter for mov files. :)

Built-in MP4splitter has a problem with the sound with the old mov files. I could not solve it.

Yep, that fixed the speed issue.
The problem is that "MJPEG Decompressor" is used instead of FFDshow video decoder :/

[v0lt]

The problem is that "MJPEG Decompressor" is used instead of FFDshow video decoder :/
I have no problem. ffdshow is working properly.

[hoborg]

I have no problem. ffdshow is working properly.

For sample i posted?

LAVfsplitter .11 output it as: (wont connect with FFDshow)
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_MJPG {47504A4D-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}

MP4 splitter:
subtype: MEDIASUBTYPE_QTJpeg {6765706A-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} (FFDShow connection working, but wrong speed)

[nevcairiel]

It connects to ffdshow for me, using LAVFSplitter, obviously.

From that file, the PCM media type its using could use some work, i guess, but the MPC-HC PCM Decoder works with it.

[SpaceAgeHero]

Hey folks,

some 16:9 DVD's are stretched too wide in MPC HC.
Here you can see an example.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8980/wtfw.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/wtfw.jpg/)

This one was saved losslessly to a Matroska container
but it is occuring when playing the original DVD as well.
In VLC the file plays just fine. Why is this happening and is there anything I can do
apart from adjusting the image manually?

MediaInfo:

General
Complete name : D:\MakeMKV\2-1\title06.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.88 GiB
Duration : 41mn 58s
Overall bit rate : 6 413 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-11-06 21:30:00
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.6.2 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.6.2 (0.7.7/0.8.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration : 41mn 58s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 5 646 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 000 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Original display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.545
Stream size : 1.66 GiB (88%)
Language : English

[v0lt]

For sample i posted?
yes
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5285/movmjpg.th.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5285/movmjpg.jpg)http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5013/movmjpg2.th.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5013/movmjpg2.jpg)

[hoborg]

yes
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5285/movmjpg.th.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5285/movmjpg.jpg)http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5013/movmjpg2.th.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5013/movmjpg2.jpg)

What i am missing here? FFDshow refuse connection for me...
Can you send me your FFDshow setings?
hoborg@volny.cz

Thanks.

[v0lt]

All can be seen in the first picture. I specifically select the row.
ffdshow->Video decoder configuration->Codecs->MJPEG = libavcodec
ffdshow rev. 3627

[hoborg]

All can be seen in the first picture. I specifically select the row.
ffdshow->Video decoder configuration->Codecs->MJPEG = libavcodec
ffdshow rev. 3627

I already have this enabled. But reinstalling FFDShow help. Strange.

[saint-francis]

Hey folks,

some 16:9 DVD's are stretched too wide in MPC HC.
Here you can see an example.


Could you provide a sample? I haven't encountered this.

[SpaceAgeHero]

Could you provide a sample? I haven't encountered this.

Here's a 5 MB sample.
http://netload.in/datei6XuXt2Im8I/VTS_01_1-010.mkv.htm

I do not use ffdshow.
Only Haali Media Splitter as well as the Haali Renderer.
But the problem also exists with EVR etc ...

[mr.duck]

I have a setup where everything is working OK. But I want to disable DXVA. Is that possible? Oh the decoder is a Microsoft decoder for MPEG2 video. It is the best I've ever seen for quality, but I don't need DXVA, it just wastes power.

[janos666]

I have a setup where everything is w
working OK. But I want to disable DXVA. Is that possible?

Yes, you can untick the DXVA filters on the internal filters tab.

Oh the decoder is a Microsoft decoder for MPEG2 video. It is the best I've ever seen for quality, but I don't need DXVA, it just wastes power.

Interesting and funny.

DXVA is theoretically saves power! Your VGA will have much lower load than your CPU would and the overall power consumption should be lower with DXVA (in usual systems).

Theoretically, every decoder should produce the same result because they should follow the standard. If there is any noticeable difference between the decoded images, then it's a bug.
For example, if CoreAVC and FFDShow produces the same image (I tested it once. And yes, they do!) but the MS one shows something else, then the MS decoder is broken (even if you think it's look better)!

I think there is some other setting which changes when you change the decoders (for example: output pixel format) and it causes the difference (DXVA decoders outputs nv12 while the optimal format is yv12 for DVDs and BDs).

[Carpo]

I have a setup where everything is working OK. But I want to disable DXVA. Is that possible? Oh the decoder is a Microsoft decoder for MPEG2 video. It is the best I've ever seen for quality, but I don't need DXVA, it just wastes power.


For mpeg2 or x254? in mpc-hc there is an option to disable it for SD stuff

View -> Options -> Internal Filters -> Transform Filters

MPEG2-Video (DXVA)
H264/AVC (DXVA)

[mr.duck]

Interesting and funny.

DXVA is theoretically saves power! Your VGA will have much lower load than your CPU would and the overall power consumption should be lower with DXVA (in usual systems).

Theoretically, every decoder should produce the same result because they should follow the standard. If there is any noticeable difference between the decoded images, then it's a bug.
For example, if CoreAVC and FFDShow produces the same image (I tested it once. And yes, they do!) but the MS one shows something else, then the MS decoder is broken (even if you think it's look better)!

I think there is some other setting which changes when you change the decoders (for example: output pixel format) and it causes the difference (DXVA decoders outputs nv12 while the optimal format is yv12 for DVDs and BDs).

I know I am probably the only one that wants to break DXVA from working. Thing is though, decode MPEG2 is so trivial that the CPU stays at idle clocks. All DXVA does is clock the GPU up. I know how to stop it doing that by reflashing the GPU BIOS but I don't want to try that.

The MS one looks much better than FFDShow though! It is something to do with deinterlacing. It looks so perfect with the MS decoder. The MPC built in MPEG2 decoder is close to the MS one but there is still a difference and when you pause the video you can see why easily. FFDShow is by far the worst and no settings could fix it. It is being deinterlaced but there are horizontal lines as well as ghost images which are there in the MPC built in decoder too (clear only when paused). The MS decoder has non of that. I use the exact same settings and for the graphics card I tell it to only use the Vector Adaptive Deinterlacer which is the best quality available to day AFAIK.



For mpeg2 or x254? in mpc-hc there is an option to disable it for SD stuff

View -> Options -> Internal Filters -> Transform Filters

MPEG2-Video (DXVA)
H264/AVC (DXVA)

Ya it's MPEG2 for sure. I don't know how to use the one called "MPEG2-Video (DXVA)". It can only use the other one which is old, or external ones like the Microsoft one. The MS one has no options whatsoever to disable DXVA or anything else.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), 1.4.2719 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-1-4-2719.html)

Changes (2715-2719): (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/logi-izmeneniy/log-izmeneniy-media-player-classic-homecinema.html)
fixed: [DVB] some characters don't show in EPG OSD (Patch by Underground78). This commit fixes ticket #895.;
DVB: TV/Radio button text in TV navigation panel can be translated;
fixes the warning introduced in r2703. Patch by Underground78;
fixed internal filter hangs with certain AR since r2667. This commit fixes ticket #908.;
updated build scripts

[LigH]

Disabling "Save settings in INI file" solved my problems with the slow quitting and the even slower loading right afterwards.

[hoborg]

All can be seen in the first picture. I specifically select the row.
ffdshow->Video decoder configuration->Codecs->MJPEG = libavcodec
ffdshow rev. 3627

Well, i have no problem to play it in MPC-HC, but by some reason, if i open the sample in graphstudio, it is using MJPEG Decompressor by default (MJPEG Decompressor have lower merit), but only on my Win7 x64, on XP it is working fine.

If you have Win7, can you try to open my sample in Gaphstudio?

[v0lt]

If you have Win7, can you try to open my sample in Gaphstudio?
Yes. The player plays, but LAVFSplitter does not work in GraphStudio. :confused:

[ajp_anton]

Theoretically, every decoder should produce the same result because they should follow the standard. If there is any noticeable difference between the decoded images, then it's a bug.I think this is only true for h264 and other new-ish formats.

I know I am probably the only one that wants to break DXVA from working. Thing is though, decode MPEG2 is so trivial that the CPU stays at idle clocks. All DXVA does is clock the GPU up. I know how to stop it doing that by reflashing the GPU BIOS but I don't want to try that.Why would DXVA need to clock up the GPU?

[mr.duck]

Why would DXVA need to clock up the GPU?

Maybe it's just AMD GPUs but that's how they do it. I have a Radeon 5750. At idle the clocks are 157/300 MHz for GPU and memory respectively. When using DXVA it goes to 400/900 MHz (it seems a dumb choice, like it's the same for any video, HD or SD). This speed bump to 400/900 will probably also come with a voltage bump as well which could quite easily double the power consumption of the GFX card since it idles at 11-12W or something like that. Full speed such as playing a game it runs at 700/1150 MHz. I think the card uses only 2 voltage states. One for idle and one for UVD/load.

You can check the GFX card clocks and load % using GPU-Z... http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/


EDIT: I just downloaded the latest version of GPU-Z which now shows GPU voltage and it looks like it stays the same for 157/300 and 400/900 at 0.950v

[fairchild]

I'm having a problem where MPC-HC x86 version instantly crashes on my system with certain files and also crashes when trying to go Full Screen (it doesn't crash when I setup a key to Full Screen w/o res.change, but then the video doesn't actually go fullscreen, it just leaves the video frame where it was, then removes all parts of the UI.) Always the error is: Media Player Classic - Home Cinema has stopped working, then only option is to Close Program. This happens with any version of the x86 version which I've tried to use (1.4.2499.0 or any of the newest versions, just tried 1.4.2719 in both the MSVC2008 or MSVC2010 versions). I've tried deleting all registry entries pertaining to Gabest or mpc-hc or media player classic - home cinema, etc) The x64 versions work perfect for me. (both the latest official or the latest 1.4.2719 versions) I really wanted to use the x86 version because I want to use MadVR renderer and Reclock audio renderer, as well as FFdshow).

I'm at a loss as to what the problem is. Other media players work fine for me (VLC, Potplayer, KMP, Gomplayer, and as I said the x64 version of MPC-HC). The weird thing is every single time I open the 32-bit x86 version of MPC-HC I have this huge gray area above which I'm guessing is the capture function which is grayed out. I have no capture card or anything to capture video in my system but the x86 version of MPC-HC seems to think I do. I don't know if this is the source of my problems. I used to be able to run MPC-HC x86 versions many months ago, but I don't know what changed in my system or with the newer versions that is causing these issues for me. I've attached a few images of the capture issue I mentioned. I'm using an XFX 4890 video card, Soundblaster X-fi xtreme music, on Windows7 64bit.

The 2nd picture that shows the playing file is a 1920x1080 clip that should be taking up the whole screen as I'm currently running on my 1680x1050 monitor.

The 3rd picture shows what happens when I hit full screen.

Also for some odd reason, if I have one clip playing, then I open a new clip while the current one is open, the big gray capture UI goes away, and it's now unchecked in View and still grayed out. But still, when trying to go full screen, it won't actually correctly fill the screen, same thing that happens in the 3rd picture. I'll attach a 4th picture showing this odd behavior.

I'm a techie, so pretty knowledgable, but am not a coder, so not sure what's going on here on my system. Any ideas?

Here is a link to all 4 images I uploaded (http://img38.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=mpchc1.jpg)

BTW, I've made sure to try everything at stock with MPC-HC: EVR, EVR-CP, video renderer (the windows default one) everything gives the same results.

[follz20]

Is anyone able to tell me why I am unable to get subtitles on screen when both DXVA (ffdshow) and any EVR renderer (custom, sync etc) is enabled? I've never had any problems with these settings before until recent builds.

Surface overlay is enabled and (obviously) all the right boxes are ticked inside the subtitles menu within FFVA so I have no idea why it's not working.

Also, is anyone able to tell me why I get horizontal screen tearing across the MPC-HC player when playing a video which uses DXVA and the EVR renderer? The problem disappears when I use the EVR custom renderer though.

[clsid]

The subtitle functionality in ffdshow DXVA should only be used with renderers that are not compatible with the internal subtitle functionality of MPC, because it is very inefficient compared to the one in MPC due to the different method it needs to use to merge the subs with the video.

For the subs not workingwith ffdshow you probably need to go the ffdshow topic.

[Visor]

Hello,

I will probably report this as a bug, but first wanted to see if anyone else who's experienced this has come up with a workaround. I've done a couple of searches within this very large thread, but haven't been able to find anything specific to this problem.

My PC is running Windows 7 with an ATI Radeon HD 5450 graphics card. It's hooked up to my 52" Sony TV via HDMI. For normal text-based use, I have the resolution set at 1280*720 @ 60Hz.

In MPC, I have set in the Autochange section to open in fullscreen and switch the resolution to 1920*1080, and either 23.976 Hz or 29.97 Hz depending on the source material, which are mostly high-def mkvs. However, whenever I open a movie file, MPC displays the movie in the top left area of the screen. The movie itself takes up what I would guess to be the 1280*720 area out of the 1920*1080 screen. The rest of the screen just shows my Windows desktop. MPC is not running in a window; only the movie itself is shown, which makes me think that MPC believes it's running the movie in fullscreen.

If I set the resolution to 1080p before opening MPC, all is well; it will properly set the refresh rate, and the movie will fill the screen.

I've tried adjusting a bunch of settings within MPC, including VSync, Presentation, Video Frame, and Output options, but the problem persists. My desktop is currently in Windows 7 Basic mode; if I ran it with Aero turned on, then I'd have the added problem of video stuttering when the resolution is changed.

Please let me know if I need to report this as a new bug.

Thanks,
Visor

[oddball]

I often get crashes in all versions of mpc-hc I have tried when skipping through a video.

Faulting application name: mpc-hc.exe, version: 1.4.2499.0, time stamp: 0x4c8646fc
Faulting module name: evr.dll, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bda54
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000082d5
Faulting process id: 0x720
Faulting application start time: 0x01cb80471c8d63b2
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Media Player Classic - Home Cinema\mpc-hc.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\evr.dll
Report Id: f9024cda-ec3d-11df-ad0f-90e6ba68d2f9
---

Any ideas?

[Ede_123]

Hi all,

I have a problem with MPC-HC regarding EVR:
When I choose "EVR Custom" or "EVR Sync" and set any resizer using PS 2.0 I get a stuttering video output.

I tried with a H264 HD video as well as with an Xvid SD video.
Filter Info shows no dropped frames.
The problem occurs with the previus stable build, the current stable build as well as a recent SVN build 2969 (didn't test with earlyer versions).

Do you have an idea what could be wrong? Or is it only my video card being too slow? (I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470) Are there any infos concerning MPC-HCs system requirements?

I hope you can help me, if I can provide any further informations to help locating the problem just ask.

P.S. I'm running Windows Vista x32 on a Lenovo T400 Laptop.
CPU: Intel Core2Duo P8400 (2,26 GHz)
GPU: ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470
Aero is turned on.

[namaiki]

Have you already tried:
View-> Renderer-> Reset-> Optimal and/or Default.

[Ede_123]

Well I think default settings were active all the time (didn't mess with any options I could remember), resetting to defaults didn't change anything.

Resetting to optimal settings forced windows to disale Aero and resulted in terrible tearing. Tough it seems to be running smoother then.

[namaiki]

Sounds like you are using madVR. Press Ctrl+J to toggle the OSD.

[techer]

Sounds like you are using madVR. Press Ctrl+J to toggle the OSD.

:)
haha
yea, I just found out like a min after posting.
I went ahead and deleted my post.
Thanks for responding, though

[fairchild]

I guess I'm SOL on my issue. I was hoping someone might know what was going on and maybe there were some settings I was missing in the registry or something to totally force MPC-HC to reset to the defaults. :(

[tetsuo55]

I guess I'm SOL on my issue. I was hoping someone might know what was going on and maybe there were some settings I was missing in the registry or something to totally force MPC-HC to reset to the defaults. :(
Did you follow this page's instructions? http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/Troubleshooting_guidelines

Also there might be something in username/appdata/mpc-hc Delete everything there if so.

I often get crashes in all versions of mpc-hc I have tried when skipping through a video.

Faulting application name: mpc-hc.exe, version: 1.4.2499.0, time stamp: 0x4c8646fc
Faulting module name: evr.dll, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bda54
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000082d5
Faulting process id: 0x720
Faulting application start time: 0x01cb80471c8d63b2
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Media Player Classic - Home Cinema\mpc-hc.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\evr.dll
Report Id: f9024cda-ec3d-11df-ad0f-90e6ba68d2f9
---

Any ideas?

Crash on seek is a known bug, can you reproduce with lavfsplitter?

[fairchild]

Did you follow this page's instructions? http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/wiki/Troubleshooting_guidelines

Also there might be something in username/appdata/mpc-hc Delete everything there if so.?

Yes, I followed all the instructions on that page. Created the registry file to delete the entries in registry using:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Gabest]

I deleted anything found in the username/appdata/mpc-hc

I even re-downloaded and installed a fresh copy of the latest official x86 build: MPC-HomeCinema.1.4.2499.0.x86.exe

Installed it to a new location (to the Program Files (x86) folder instead of where I had it installed which was a folder on my main drive labeled mpc-hc)

Fire it up for the first time, same thing. Capture is checked and grayed out, everything looks exactly like the pictures I posted and the same issues are occurring (clips don't actually go full-screen when using different renderer that doesn't crash, and clips crash when going full-screen using default filters and evr-cp)

[ajp_anton]

Could you make an option to *not* upscale the video in fullscreen mode if it's just going to be a couple of pixels?
Like when watching something 1916x800 on a 1080p screen, I'd rather leave 4 pixels of black bars on the sides than upscale it by 0.2%.

[dansrfe]

^ Right click on video -> Video frame -> Normal size.

[dansrfe]

Feature request:

Add an option under Auto-Zoom to only resize to half-res when source video is greater than or equal to screen res, just like Haali's renderer did. The main reason I want this is so that I can use this feature with madVR in MPC-HC

[namaiki]

Feature request:

Add an option under Auto-Zoom to only resize to half-res when source video is greater than or equal to screen res, just like Haali's renderer did. The main reason I want this is so that I can use this feature with madVR in MPC-HC

View-> Options-> Playback-> Set Auto-zoom to Auto Fit.

[dansrfe]

That upscales videos with a resolution less than the screen size. I want anything less than the screen res to remain as is. Just like Haali's method.

[mindbomb]

I ran into a problem recently.
While watching something using the internal DTS filter set to spdif, the video froze at certain points and sometimes would involuntarily move to an earlier point in the video.
I have 2 samples here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?8fw72jmwn22k5kn

The problem happens at about 6 seconds and 15 seconds respectively.

The video would play normally if the DTS filter was set to decode to stereo, or if arcsoft hd audio decoder was used in spdif mode though.

[ajp_anton]

^ Right click on video -> Video frame -> Normal size.Doesn't really look good on videos way below the threshold size I had in mind for "do not upscale"...

That upscales videos with a resolution less than the screen size. I want anything less than the screen res to remain as is. Just like Haali's method.That's exactly what Haali does. Well, not always when vid res < screen res, but for really small resolutions it does.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), 1.4.2726 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-1-4-2726.html)

Changes (2720-2726): (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/logi-izmeneniy/log-izmeneniy-media-player-classic-homecinema.html)
updated ukrainian translation by arestarh;
merged subtitle misc and db option page;
update build scripts;
Property page added to MPC Audio Renderer (Wasapi usage / mute audio on fast forward);
updated rc files for r2723;
Fixed : debug assertion failed;
add ICL 12 in the compiler string.

[moviebug]

I have just gone from Vista to Windows 7(x86).

I have a 2.66GHz quadcore with
an ASUS ATI 4670 with 10.10 driver
displaying on a Sony 46inch 1080p screen
via an Onkyo SR606 Av receiver

I output 5.1 multi channel LPCM..ie no passthru
of AC3 or DTS

In setting up MPHC(version 2719)

I have loaded ffdshow(rev3627 IC11 version)...

and haali splitter....version 1.10.175.0

I used to use madVR as my renderer
..but now I cant get access to that option??
(under options>>playback>>output)

I play mkvs(including 1080ps)...avis(divx and Xvids)

what is the best way to display subtitles???
for MKVs(included in title)
and Divxs(srts)