Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[clsid]

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=899211

Libpng 1.2.34 released. Casimir, clsid and the other current coders for MPC-HC, we should keep libpng updated if possible since there's a security bug in libpng 1.2.32.

http://secunia.com/advisories/32418/
Not a big problem since MPC never reads any PNG files that might have come from an untrustworthy source. PNG is only used for the logos and save image feature.

But I will update it whenever I have some time.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 929 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/500/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 929 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/499/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg; Updated libpng to version 1.2.34; Updated Turkish translation.

[Snowknight26]

With http://stfcc.org/misc/00000.cut.m2ts playing (DXVA with hardware deinterlacing, not sure about software decoding), it takes two frame steps to actually change frames.

Also, as soon as you take exit full screen by way of Alt+Tab, for example, the status bar text changes to "Shader:" even with shaders off followed by Playing a couple of seconds later.

Eh, more things. When in full screen mode, if you show/hide some of the view options (Ctrl+5 or Ctrl+6 come to mind), the controls, seek bar, and everything else you have enabled stays visible until you move your mouse.. assuming you have the auto-hide setting enabled.

[darkfalz79]

I would like to see deinterlaced playback of interlaced XVID content.

[ikarad]

I don't think that DirectVobSub is used for DVD subtitles. I think that is handled internally. Nevertheless, this delay issue should be fixed.

With what video renderer(s) does it happen?
Does it happen with ALL your DVDs?
Is the delay always the same value?

With MPC-HC it is impossible to load separate subtitles when I see DVD subtitles. MPC-HC only allow to load subtitles included in the DVD but not subtitles which are not included in the DVD (it is the same thing with ffdshow). Consequently vobsub is the only choice.
For example, I buy japan DVD anime from japan and there isn't subtitles in the DVD. I extract subtitles from .mkv (available in sites like tokyotosho.com) and I retime (if necessary) to see japan dvd with english subtitles (using MPC-HC and vobsub).

But between XP and vista there is a delay of neraly 1610 milliseconds (If I compare the time of the start of the subtiles (available in .srt or .txt file), I have noticed that on vista, there is a delay of 1610 milliseconds (subtitles are always display at the same time but video start with neraly 1600 milliseconds of delay).

It is the same delay for all dvd I tested.

my video renderer is libmpeg2 (because i use ffdshow). I tried to use integrated mpeg2-video codec of MPC-HC but there is the same problem of delay of subtitles display with vista.

yes it happen with all dvd with separated subtitles under vista.

I give you 20 seconds of DVD japan anime (NADESICO)
http://www.zshare.net/download/52975167f44a8243/
You must decompressed in a folder (video_TS) and use launch dvd function in MPC and open folder (video_TS) (not the .vob or .ifo, just the folder)

I give you also the subtitles files to see subtitles (you must use vobsub to display these subtitles)
http://www.zshare.net/download/52974803aba1ee38/

You can test under xp and under vista and compare

[PolaR ID]

I installed ffdshow clisd version with MPC-HC in my old machine , and i face little problem Playing DVD movie, when I open the DVD folder with MPC-HC, it just doesn't play at all. Processor is AMD 3200+ with ATI RADEON 9600.

[ikarad]

Thanks, all subtitles are now displayed, however some subtitles are not displayed with the right timing.
In the video I gave you, there is one case:
- 5 subtitles are displayed with a noticeable delay (ie. They start later than expected, however they end exactly as they should),


** In the 1min video I gave you, here are the subtitles which start with a delay:
“8
00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,148
Just relax and sleep .”
“13
00:00:41,641 --> 00:00:44,644
My name's Eluluu.”

“15
00:00:47,714 --> 00:00:50,984
And this is my house .”

“17
00:00:52,986 --> 00:00:57,323
Well , I found you collapsed in the forest.”

“21
00:01:03,630 --> 00:01:07,133
You're through the worst of it,
that's what Grandma says.”


EDIT: I made a mistake, I have said that one subtitle ends sooner than expected but it is wrong. In fact the original subtitle ends really slightly before the character stops speaking, this has leading me to make this mistake.

Casimir666, have you suceed to eliminate the delay between voice and blu-ray subtitles display?

[Casimir666]

Casimir666, have you suceed to eliminate the delay between voice and blu-ray subtitles display?
I found where the problem is, but not how to fix it. You will have to wait a little.

[ikarad]

I found where the problem is, but not how to fix it. You will have to wait a little.

thank you

[Atak_Snajpera]

is there any particular reason why EVR Custom preset + Bilinear (PS 2.0) and YV12 chroma upscaling shader are not set by default on Vista? Subtitles and DXVA require EVR to work so I see no reason why we still have anything else than EVR . Overlay , Haali , Old renderer even VR7 9 are useless (Correct me if I'm wrong but If you have .net 3.5 installed EVR should also work on XP)

[amango]

If I select the MPCVideodecoder in Mediaportal for H264-DVB S2 transport streams, the graph won't connect. However MPC Classic itself is able to play H264-transport streams correctly with Hardware acceleration on my system (780G).

Is there a way that the H264-decoder from MPC Classic can be used successfully with Mediaportal for watching HDTV? That would be great!

[yesgrey]

I see no reason why we still have anything else than EVR .

In XP, only VMR9 allows DXVA of VC1 files with Microsoft WMVideo Decoder (NVidia cards).

[Mark_A_W]

VC-1 stutters with internal splitter?


I'm so close to getting complete playback of BD straight from the disc, with DXVA disabled, so I can get a Gamma control, which my projector desperately needs.

The biggest problem is VC-1 is choppy with the MPC-HD MPEG PS/TS/PVA splitter - which "sees" TrueHD and names the streams. It's choppy with any external decoder (I use ffdshow pointing at WMV9 currently). VC-1 is not choppy with the Haali Splitter, but that doesn't see TrueHD and doesn't name the streams. Using the MPC splitter in another player gives the same result - it's the splitter.

With the internal VC-1 decoder (but not DXVA) I get flashing blocks.


I know the VC-1 choppiness issue has been mentioned, but it's one of two last stumbling blocks to full BD playback from disc (full DTS-MA in ffdshow audio is the other)....so if you guys could fix it.. I'LL BE YOUR BEST FRIEND FOREVER!!!

Sorry to pollute the development thread, I didn't want to, but it's driving me nuts.

[Emp3r0r]

Would it be possible to turn MPC's shader post-processing into a stand-alone filter that could be added into any filter graph?

[Leak]

Would it be possible to turn MPC's shader post-processing into a stand-alone filter that could be added into any filter graph?
Uh - no?

Without a custom renderer (like MPC-HC's VMR9 and EVR custom renderer) it's not possible to use shaders since in that case the video is just some data in your RAM, not a texture on the graphics card.

And I don't think you can just rip those renderers out of MPC and have other apps use them without support through the application itself.

np: B. Fleischmann - Even Your Glasses Miss Your Eyes (Angst Is Not A Weltanschauung!)

[leeperry]

Would it be possible to turn MPC's shader post-processing into a stand-alone filter that could be added into any filter graph?
you can use the Avishader() Avisynth plugin(also within ffdshow), but it's a CPU hog(due to frames going back & forth CPU<>GPU)....yet it does work, even in realtime http://forum.slysoft.com/images/smilies/agreed.gif

[tetsuo55]

Now that ffdshow supports E-AC3, TrueHD and DTSHD-core i want to try playing my bluray's with MPC-HC

Is it possible yet to use MPC-HC for bluray menu's? If not then why?

Does the splitter show all options in the stream, i have the feeling that opening the m2ts stream doesn't always give me the option to use subtitles or different audio streams

Why is everything marked as unknown when i open a m2ts file?

[Leak]

Is it possible yet to use MPC-HC for bluray menu's? If not then why?
All interactive stuff on BluRay discs is basically a stripped down Java Virtual Machine that's running on the player. I doubt there's any open source project that does that yet...

np: Boy Robot - Old Habits Die Hard (Glamorizing Corporate Lifestyle)

[b66pak]

does mpc-hc support .sup subtitles in .m2ts streams?
_

[nautilus7]

Yes, it does.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 934 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/504/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 934 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/503/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

FIXED : Bugs on presentation graphics (missing subtitles, better synchronization); FIXED : Audio change on M2TS files reset the selected subtitle; VSFilter resource fix; Updated FFmpeg; CHANGED: LibVorbis updated to v1.2.0.

[rt87]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 934 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/504/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 934 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/503/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

FIXED : Bugs on presentation graphics (missing subtitles, better synchronization); FIXED : Audio change on M2TS files reset the selected subtitle; VSFilter resource fix; Updated FFmpeg; CHANGED: LibVorbis updated to v1.2.0.

no standalone vsfilter build of this revision?

[betaking]

no standalone vsfilter build of this revision?
standalone_filters-svn934_x64
http://www.xvidvideo.ru/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,887/Itemid,11/
standalone_filters-svn934_x86
http://www.xvidvideo.ru/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,886/Itemid,11/

[ikarad]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 934 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/504/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 934 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/503/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

FIXED : Bugs on presentation graphics (missing subtitles, better synchronization); FIXED : Audio change on M2TS files reset the selected subtitle; VSFilter resource fix; Updated FFmpeg; CHANGED: LibVorbis updated to v1.2.0.

1) What is "vsfilter ressource fixed"?

2) I notice a bug with blu-ray subtitles in this version.
Sometimes a subtitles is displayed but doesn't disappeared. Consequently the following subtitles aren't displayed.

When I use inverse telecine filter to deinterlace my video (because japan anime are often interlaced), the second subtitle ("burning") of utawarerumono is blocked and don't disappeared. The following subtitles aren't displayed. This problem didn't existed with 1.2.923 version

Here is the video
"Here is the link for video (utaweruromo 1 min with subtitles) with subtitles embedded (265 MB)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5268802709403859/

the other link is a txt file with all subtitles (1 kB)
http://www.zshare.net/download/5268532167381f2b/"

and here is the parameters that I use for inverse telecine (is telecide with avisynth)
http://nsa03.casimages.com/img/2008/12/21/mini_081221100446894147.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=081221100446894147.jpg)

3)FIXED : Bugs on presentation graphics (missing subtitles, better synchronization);
the synchronization isn't perfect because some subtitles are displayed too late but it is maybe normal because casimir666 told me two days ago:
I found where the problem is, but not how to fix it. You will have to wait a little.

[rt87]

standalone_filters-svn934_x64
http://www.xvidvideo.ru/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,887/Itemid,11/
standalone_filters-svn934_x86
http://www.xvidvideo.ru/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_download/gid,886/Itemid,11/

did you find vsfilter.dll in standalone_filters-svn934_x86.7z? :rolleyes:

[Casshern]

Hi,

i noticed that the new build 934 does disable dxva and falls back to software decoding if set to evr custom presenter under winxp (HD2600Pro). Is there any reason for that ? In previous builds (same graphic card driver) it would use DXVA.

On a sidenote. Is it possible to enable DXVA decoding for VMR7 renderless? It works in VMR7 windowed. Or are there technical reasons preventing this?

regards,
Casshern

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi,

i noticed that the new build 934 does disable dxva and falls back to software decoding if set to evr custom presenter under winxp (HD2600Pro). Is there any reason for that ? In previous builds (same graphic card driver) it would use DXVA.

On a sidenote. Is it possible to enable DXVA decoding for VMR7 renderless? It works in VMR7 windowed. Or are there technical reasons preventing this?

regards,
Casshern

Under Windows XP - DXVA can't work with EVR, only VMR9/7.

DXVA work with EVR/EVR Custom only in Vista

[betaking]

did you find vsfilter.dll in standalone_filters-svn934_x86.7z? :rolleyes:

yes!:rolleyes:
you can download vsfilter.dll svn934 at here:
http://www.zshare.net/download/53062482fa0d74a9/

[rt87]

yes!:rolleyes:
you can download vsfilter.dll svn934 at here:
http://www.zshare.net/download/53062482fa0d74a9/

21/12/2008 10:25 +0800 2,523,097 standalone_filters-svn934_x86.7z

CRC32: 38498fce
MD5: 76d12ce9165e576e3a26ecd4c19b7840
SHA-1: 91d83e1040804d9ac812e49cdf5d3996e9a906fb

no vsfilter.dll in the archive.:p

[ikarad]

I don't think that DirectVobSub is used for DVD subtitles. I think that is handled internally. Nevertheless, this delay issue should be fixed.

With what video renderer(s) does it happen?
Does it happen with ALL your DVDs?
Is the delay always the same value?
With MPC-HC it is impossible to load separate subtitles when I see DVD subtitles. MPC-HC only allow to load subtitles included in the DVD but not subtitles which are not included in the DVD (it is the same thing with ffdshow). Consequently vobsub is the only choice.
For example, I buy japan DVD anime from japan and there isn't subtitles in the DVD. I extract subtitles from .mkv (available in sites like tokyotosho.com) and I retime (if necessary) to see japan dvd with english subtitles (using MPC-HC and vobsub).

But between XP and vista there is a delay of neraly 1610 milliseconds (If I compare the time of the start of the subtiles (available in .srt or .txt file), I have noticed that on vista, there is a delay of 1610 milliseconds (subtitles are always display at the same time but video start with neraly 1600 milliseconds of delay).

It is the same delay for all dvd I tested.

my video renderer is libmpeg2 (because i use ffdshow). I tried to use integrated mpeg2-video codec of MPC-HC but there is the same problem of delay of subtitles display with vista.

yes it happen with all dvd with separated subtitles under vista.

I give you 20 seconds of DVD japan anime (NADESICO)
http://www.zshare.net/download/52975167f44a8243/
You must decompressed in a folder (video_TS) and use launch dvd function in MPC and open folder (video_TS) (not the .vob or .ifo, just the folder)

I give you also the subtitles files to see subtitles (you must use vobsub to display these subtitles)
http://www.zshare.net/download/52974803aba1ee38/

You can test under xp and under vista and compare

EDIT : With the 1.1.604 version separated subtitles can't be loaded when we want to see a dvd with launch DVD function of MPC-HC (load subtitle doesn't work)
. With the version more recently (1.2.908 and superior) load subtitle function works and I can load separated subtitles of DVD. But the delay between voice and subtitle display is still present (as described above).

I noticed another bug. Load subtitle function works only with VMR9 and not with EVR custom and VMR9 renderer is very bad under vista.

[Leak]

no vsfilter.dll in the archive.:p
That might be because it's actually been replaced by "standalone_filters-svn934-1_x86.7z" that does include a vsfilter.dll... :rolleyes:

np: Brandlmayr, Dafeldecker, Fennesz - Till The Old World's Blown Up And A New One Is Created (Till The Old World's Blown Up And A New One Is Created (Disc 1))

[alexins]

that might be because it's actually been replaced by "standalone_filters-svn934-1_x86.7z" that does include a vsfilter.dll
... :)

[mark0077]

One Tiny Bug I noticed, might as well mention it: In the properties dialog of for example, the mpeg2 filter, if "Set interlaced flag in output media type" is set to on and click ok, when the dialog is loaded again, the Deinterlacing option is not greyed out.

Also one feature request: My goal in my htpc would be complete automation, so in time I would hope to have colour space conversion done and detected automatically. One thing I find myself doing alot however is choosing audio output in many dvds especially music dvds like queens greatest hits. Alot of these dvds default to stereo when they actually have a 5.1 track.

Could a feature be added sometime in the future to allow people to add preferences for say 5.1 > 2.1 or DTS > DD, and for mpc-hc to choose the audio track based on these simple rules.

This would be fantastic and I'm sure bring alot of people along the way in terms of automating common tasks !!!!

[Steveo08]

yes!:rolleyes:
you can download vsfilter.dll svn934 at here:
http://www.zshare.net/download/53062482fa0d74a9/




is it possible to control vsfilter by hotkeys with a remote control?

[Casshern]

Under Windows XP - DXVA can't work with EVR, only VMR9/7.

DXVA work with EVR/EVR Custom only in Vista

Well thats not correct. DXVA does work in Win XP with EVR. Just choose output EVR or EVR Custom Presenter and you will see that on an ATI CARD MPC-Videodecoder shows that its using the "VC1-Bitstream decoder". Also the CPU usage is about 10% compared to 70-90% when not using DXVA. I do not know what happens internally - but i also do have all the evr renderer options when i go to the property page of the video renderer.

But i have to retract my previous post somewhat. It also works with 934! Do not really know why it didn*t work before, but after a reboot it worked just like in all the old versions.

regards,
Casshern

[bmnot]

VC-1 stutters with internal splitter?


I'm so close to getting complete playback of BD straight from the disc, with DXVA disabled, so I can get a Gamma control, which my projector desperately needs.

The biggest problem is VC-1 is choppy with the MPC-HD MPEG PS/TS/PVA splitter - which "sees" TrueHD and names the streams. It's choppy with any external decoder (I use ffdshow pointing at WMV9 currently). VC-1 is not choppy with the Haali Splitter, but that doesn't see TrueHD and doesn't name the streams. Using the MPC splitter in another player gives the same result - it's the splitter.

With the internal VC-1 decoder (but not DXVA) I get flashing blocks.


I know the VC-1 choppiness issue has been mentioned, but it's one of two last stumbling blocks to full BD playback from disc (full DTS-MA in ffdshow audio is the other)....so if you guys could fix it.. I'LL BE YOUR BEST FRIEND FOREVER!!!

Sorry to pollute the development thread, I didn't want to, but it's driving me nuts. Same here. All I need is VC1 support fixed and everything can played from disc.

[tetsuo55]

does MPC-HC support WASAPI exclusive mode in vista?
As described here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143659

If not then i would like to request support for this feature

[Kado]

@Casshern
Maybe DXVA for H264 in XP does not work with EVR (I assume that this was what he was trying to say).
I cannot test VC-1 because my 9800GTX does not support VC-1 bitstream decoding, and I'm using Vista SP2 anyway.

@tetsuo55
I don't see that happening in the near future. :(

[Px]

Feature request - add ability to show picture on both displays in dualscreen configuration

[avivahl]

Feature request - add ability to show picture on both displays in dualscreen configuration
+1. Would be a wonderful feature.

[alexins]

Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 939 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/511/1/)
Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x64), svn 939 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/510/1/)

Supported languages: CN, CZ, DE, ES, FR, HU, IT, KR, PL, RU, SK, TR, UA

Changes log (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/7/17/)

Updated FFmpeg; FIXED : Bugs on presentation graphics, missing subtitles, better synchronization.

[Mercury_22]

VC-1 stutters with internal splitter?


I'm so close to getting complete playback of BD straight from the disc, with DXVA disabled, so I can get a Gamma control, which my projector desperately needs.

The biggest problem is VC-1 is choppy with the MPC-HD MPEG PS/TS/PVA splitter - which "sees" TrueHD and names the streams. It's choppy with any external decoder (I use ffdshow pointing at WMV9 currently). VC-1 is not choppy with the Haali Splitter, but that doesn't see TrueHD and doesn't name the streams. Using the MPC splitter in another player gives the same result - it's the splitter.

With the internal VC-1 decoder (but not DXVA) I get flashing blocks.


I know the VC-1 choppiness issue has been mentioned, but it's one of two last stumbling blocks to full BD playback from disc (full DTS-MA in ffdshow audio is the other)....so if you guys could fix it.. I'LL BE YOUR BEST FRIEND FOREVER!!!

Sorry to pollute the development thread, I didn't want to, but it's driving me nuts.

Same here. All I need is VC1 support fixed and everything can played from disc.

I too concord that the VC-1 issue (MPEG PS/TS/PVA internal splitter) should become a priority ! It's the only MAJOR problem keeping MPC to become a VERY GOOD player !

:thanks:

I do appreciate dev's hard work and all I'm saying it's that this should be at the TOP of the bug list !

P.S. It's there a FLAC support that I can't find ? :helpful:

[Homeless]

I have a large problem with MPC:HC that doesn't occur with MPC. I am not sure if it's a misconfigured setting or a problem with the app itself but whenever I stream media from my computer to my television using HDMI from a radeon 4550, MPC:HC creates audio static, audio lag at times and even once in a blue moon loss of video signal for a few seconds. This does not happen with MPC or windows media 11.

I can reproduce this error on two computers with completely different setups. The only thing they share in common is the software used to playback media (MPC:HC / ffdshow) and the video card (radeon 4550). Using realtek hdmi driver 2.09 if that makes a difference

[DrNein]

P.S. It's there a FLAC support that I can't find ? :helpful:

Install madFlac:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130498

[73ChargerFan]

Homeless, I suggest you try different output renderers first. Then report back here, with your os version also.

[Mercury_22]

Install madFlac:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130498

Thanks ! But i was referring to MPC

[Mark_A_W]

Thanks ! But i was referring to MPC


Install MadFlac, and add it as an "External Filter" in MPC - under Options.

(Or am I completely lost as to what you are after?)

[rack04]

Install MadFlac, and add it as an "External Filter" in MPC - under Options.

(Or am I completely lost as to what you are after?)

I think he's looking for it as a MPC-HC transform filter.

[Homeless]

Homeless, I suggest you try different output renderers first. Then report back here, with your os version also.

Happens on all of the video renderers with MPCHC. Using windows XP. Full screen playback to my television only works with VMR7, but I think that's a limitation with the way it's setup.

[HarryM]

MPC-HC is very good player for DXVA. More accurately, he is only one, which can plays files with dxva acceleration. :) Im using Win XP SP3.
But I have two problems:

1) I can not using subtitles (Im not english speaking naturarely, I need to see subtitles (eg. *.srt, *.sub) at movie. I have two choices. Movie with subtitles, but without dxva. Or dxva using, but without subtitles.:confused:
When i switch from EVR renderer to VMR9 renderer, I can see subtitles, but dxva decoder is fail in = movie is jerky (I see only P-frames?).

2) DXVA is fully functional only for standard resolution (eg. 720x576, etc). When I am using nonstandard resolution, eg. 576x320px, I get strong tearing in fullscreen mode.


Note: When I switch to VMR9 Renderless and playing MP4 file, subtitles are corrrectly displayed and DXVA is functional. But MKV is still problematic. I think, that internal MKV splitter in MPC is PROBLEM.