Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA!

[v0lt]

Are there any goals left for 1.5.3? It would be nice to see more than one or two stable releases a year.
Use the r3920-r3922.The newer builds are not stable.

[Keiyakusha]

Are there any goals left for 1.5.3? It would be nice to see more than one or two stable releases a year. Last release was on 22-July 2011, for software that has daily updates the full releases are looking pretty stagnant.
Just curious, for you as a user, what will be different when so called "stable" release will go out?

[fairchild]

Just curious, for you as a user, what will be different when so called "stable" release will go out?

Well in my case hopefully bugs don't make it into said release. For instance in my case most newer builds that I've tried will hang and not close files properly while in full-screen with MadVR. I have to then do CTRL+ALT+DEL and kill the mpc-hc.exe file. Also it sometimes crashes when swapping to different files in a playlist.

The stable build 1.5.2.3456 is the only build that is rock-solid stable and doesn't have any issues.

[Keiyakusha]

Well in my case hopefully bugs don't make it into said release. For instance in my case most newer builds that I've tried will hang and not close files properly while in full-screen with MadVR. I have to then do CTRL+ALT+DEL and kill the mpc-hc.exe file. Also it sometimes crashes when swapping to different files in a playlist.

The stable build 1.5.2.3456 is the only build that is rock-solid stable and doesn't have any issues.

Well, yes. For stable release, one of the builds will be taken that doesn't seem to give new problems. But why it is so hard to pick this build by yourself and stick to it? Why the name "stable" matters so much? if there is some bugs that are not some regressions added in most recent revisions, they are not going to be magically fixed when you'll call it "stable"

[Hera]

Well, yes. For stable release, one of the builds will be taken that doesn't seem to give new problems. But why it is so hard to pick this build by yourself and stick to it? Why the name "stable" matters so much? if there is some bugs that are not some regressions added in most recent revisions, they are not going to be magically fixed when you'll call it "stable"

It is called getting the product to the masses, something that VLC does VERY well and MPC does not.

[Keiyakusha]

It is called getting the product to the masses, something that VLC does VERY well and MPC does not.
Understand. But do you think MPC-HC needs that? It is bad to be a project for limited audience? Especially when it is developed not for masses but to satisfy needs of the developers.

[_xxl]

Just 1 or 2 developers working on MPC-HC can't do much in very short time. This project needs new developers to deliver a better and stable media player.... with ffdshow the same situation .... maybe those 2 projects should sign for "Google Summer of Code" if possible, that's to be decided by the right people.

[Hera]

MPC needs larger exposure, a broader audience
This, in turn, can bring in potential developers

:)

[ryrynz]

Just curious, for you as a user, what will be different when so called "stable" release will go out?

It's really just about distribution, not everyone goes looking for nightlies or betas as mentioned by Hera.

Understand. But do you think MPC-HC needs that? It is bad to be a project for limited audience? Especially when it is developed not for masses but to satisfy needs of the developers.

Yes I do, which is why I mentioned it. MPC-HC isn't made for developers only, it's actually known as one of the best functioning most compatible players out there.
It may not be the flashiest thing about but it gets the job done and could really use a more active approach in new "stable" releases.

MPC needs larger exposure, a broader audience this, in turn, can bring in potential developers.

My thoughts exactly, egur's development in ffdshow actually made it to the front page on many news sites as an example and no doubt brought about more exposure. I think we can all agree that this is a good thing and it should be desired.

Just 1 or 2 developers working on MPC-HC can't do much in very short time. This project needs new developers to deliver a better and stable media player.... with ffdshow the same situation .... maybe those 2 projects should sign for "Google Summer of Code" if possible, that's to be decided by the right people.

An excellent idea xxl, anything to invigorate the life of these two products would be of great benefit to the community.

While I'm on the topic of improvements, can a nice developer please finally integrate the BE mod and make make an option to revert to the original theme?, I think everyone generally agrees it's a better UI.
We already have a few developers making BE versions, It's about time it got added to MPC officially and should be in the "stable" release.

IF it was integrated the playlist would have to match in color, also there's a bug with it not disappearing in fullscreen that been around since forever.

If there was to be a consolidated effort for a new release I believe it would be best if the version was updated to 2.0, It's about time to ditch the current legarthic version numbering for stable releases.
Again, this is to help stimulate MPC development and overall awareness.

Removing the majority or all of the internal filters which has been discussed and integrating LAV would be a good idea for 2.0 also as that's made quite some headway and isn't far off from primetime.

[B.F.]

Just want to ask.
There was an old patch for WASAPI exclusive mode.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1332687#post1332687
Is it still there or it was trown away?

[Remicade]

Reclock works with MPC HC 64 bits ? The Reclock Audio Renderer doesn't show.

[SamuriHL]

Reclock is 32 bit only.

Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

[Aleksoid1978]

Just want to ask.
There was an old patch for WASAPI exclusive mode.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1332687#post1332687
Is it still there or it was trown away?

Yes - MPCAudioRender can use WASAPI exclusive mode

[_xxl]

There is a bug that occurs only on my old AMD XP 2000+, on my newer PC no problem at all. Internal Avispitter crashes randomly .... Xvid + avi file.

[v0lt]

There is a bug that occurs only on my old AMD XP 2000+, on my newer PC no problem at all. Internal Avispitter crashes randomly .... Xvid + avi file.
Try the latest version:
r3948 (xvidvideo.ru) (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-1-5-3-3948.html)
r3952 (http://www.mediafire.com/?xfgh33iws56bh)

Try to disable the internal audio decoder.

[Aleksoid1978]

There is a bug that occurs only on my old AMD XP 2000+, on my newer PC no problem at all. Internal Avispitter crashes randomly .... Xvid + avi file.

Try to detect in what version begin bug. Try disable internal Avi splitter and(or) Mpeg Audio Decoder.

Where you download svn build ??? Can run with /minidump key - and upload a dump file.

[sillKotscha]

ahoj,

unfortunately its not possible to play the following avi file "out-of-the-box" ...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=16CMVCAY

fourCC = IV32


[ About file ]

Name: MODE.AVI
Date: 14/11/1995 15:56:02
Size: 6,274,476 bytes (5.984 MB)

[ Generic infos ]

Play duration: 00:00:55 (54.806318 s)
Container type: AVI
Number of streams: 2
Type of stream nr. 0: video
Type of stream nr. 1: audio
Audio streams: 1
JUNK: J)

[ Relevant data ]

Resolution: VERY LOW (268 x 200)
Width: multiple of 4 (16 would be better)
Height: multiple of 8 (16 would be better)

[ Video track ]

FourCC: iv32/IV32
Resolution: 268 x 200
Frame aspect ratio: 67:50 = 1.34 (~4:3)
Pixel aspect ratio: 1:1 = 1
Display aspect ratio: 67:50 = 1.34 (~4:3)
Framerate: 12.078899 fps
Number of frames: 662
Delay: 0 ms

[ Audio track ]

Audio tag: 0x1 (PCM)
Bitrate (container): 88.2 kbps CBR
Channels (container): 1
Sample rate (container): 11025 Hz
Delay: 0 ms

[ About MS-MPEG4 encoding ]

Packed bitstream: No
QPel: No
GMC: No
Interlaced: No
Aspect ratio: Square pixels
Quant type: H.263


would it be possible to play the file without installing additional software (currently LAV is installed "on top")?

I have a handful of such files... old GDR advert spots :D

[v0lt]

fourCC = IV32
This is a very old format, now it is not used.
Use ffdshow or LAV Video.

[sillKotscha]

This is a very old format, now it is not used.
Use ffdshow or LAV Video.


would it be possible to play the file without installing additional software (currently LAV is installed "on top")?

thank you for reading ...

[cafevincent]

I'm getting a green screen with 4K HD (mp4) videos downloaded from youtube. The audio plays fine and I have no control over my computer, not even ctrl-alt-del works until the playback ends (audio stops). Then I can ctrl-alt-del.

I have a Radeon 5850/512mb ram and Windows 7 with 8gb ram. MPC-HC settings are pretty much default, set to dxva.

[Aleksoid1978]

I'm getting a green screen with 4K HD (mp4) videos downloaded from youtube. The audio plays fine and I have no control over my computer, not even ctrl-alt-del works until the playback ends (audio stops). Then I can ctrl-alt-del.

I have a Radeon 5850/512mb ram and Windows 7 with 8gb ram. MPC-HC settings are pretty much default, set to dxva.

What version MPC-HC ???
What Video decoder ???

[cafevincent]

What version MPC-HC ???
What Video decoder ???

1.5.2.3456
Not sure about the decoder or how to check it. As I said I have pretty much default settings in mpc-hc (internal filters as is) but I have installed shark007 pack (default settings) for thumbnail purposes and under H264 it says "do not use FFDshow", "use MPC-HC codec", "in directshow players use LAV codec" and under MP4 "use LAV's splitter" are selected. MMG shows the testfiles being avc1 with mp4a audio (mp4 container). I do get thumbnails for the them in explorer.

edit: I didn't change any settings in MPC or Shark but now I get video (wtf?) but not at full speed. Audio has gabs in playback probably because video seems to have trouble keeping up to speed. CPU (sandy bridge i5 2500) is at 25%. The video is at a 550mb/s SSD so it's not a read speed bottleneck.

[LigH]

@ sillKotscha: Long time no see! :D

@ IV32: Long time no see - as well... :p — intel Indeo Video 3.2 possibly deserves to be deprecated.

[Luyten]

latest svn 1.5.3.3958 x64 seem crashing with hi10p videos (x86 version works fine)...

[v0lt]

r3961 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-1-5-3-3961.html)
Fix : x64 crash on hi10p video, update libav;

[Luyten]

r3961 (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86-x64-1-5-3-3961.html)
Fix : x64 crash on hi10p video, update libav;

Great! :thanks:

[kasper93]

If you're updating copyright year, you could change AUTHORS to Authors.txt too. But it's only cosmetics.

[ADude]

Some good work done over the past months.

My main hard drive died and I reinstalled Vista clean on a new SSD (since hard drives are still expensive), and I then installed MPC-HC stable (3456) with no external anything.... and all my files that I tested play just fine. MKVs and AVIs, default subtitles work fine, and even have black borders around the white lettering by default. The only things I had to change from default were to use "EVR Sync" instead of "EVR CP" and "open files in fullscreen" (the latter being just personal preference).

So, thanks to all the devs and volunteers who have tweaked all of these details for months. I think that the hours I've spent reporting bugs and reading this thread, has been well invested... I hope the program does not disappear in favor of some new "flavor of the month".

[Superb]

My main hard drive died and I reinstalled Vista cleanVista? For real? :P

[Midzuki]

Vista? For real? :P

If it's not broken, don't try to fix it ;)

[nevcairiel]

If it's not broken, don't try to fix it ;)

But it did break, together with the harddrive. :D

[Midzuki]

But it did break, together with the harddrive. :D

No problem, Windows 7 and Windows 8 will also break, sooner than you expect :devil: :p

[ / End Of Vista-bashing OTs ;) ]

[Aleksoid1978]

Hi all. Test DXVA VC1 I and P playback with internal DXVA decoder - http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-hc.vc1%5bI%5dtest_2.7z

[wanezhiling]

win7 x86
m hd4650
CCC 12.1

http://i.imgur.com/v8ACe.png
vc1 i ts

http://i.imgur.com/grxQO.png
vc1 i avi

Fine.:)

[Snowknight26]

Works well for all interlaced and progressive samples I tried with my Radeon 6870 on Windows 7.

One thing I noticed, though, was that the beginning of most VC-1 streams showed green frames/macroblocks (only when using DXVA), such as in the following samples:
http://stfcc.org/misc/VC-1i.sample1.mkv
http://stfcc.org/misc/VC-1i.sample2.mkv

[Aleksoid1978]

Works well for all interlaced and progressive samples I tried with my Radeon 6870 on Windows 7.

One thing I noticed, though, was that the beginning of most VC-1 streams showed green frames/macroblocks (only when using DXVA), such as in the following samples:
http://stfcc.org/misc/VC-1i.sample1.mkv
http://stfcc.org/misc/VC-1i.sample2.mkv

Very short sample - need biggest. But - on this sample i don't have green frames/macroblocks.

[nevcairiel]

Stealing my VC1i fixes, are we? :p

[Aleksoid1978]

Stealing my VC1i fixes, are we? :p

Yea :)
Yes - I took the part of your code in ffmpeg and adapted to the code of MPC VC1 DXVA decoder.

[Mercury_22]

The green screen (http://i.imgur.com/yXNV6.png) only appears when you start to play the file from the beginning, if you start to play the file from any other point in time there's no green screen

Sample (http://www.multiupload.com/A8AY35UVLZ)

P.S. Do I understand correctly that at this point in time MPC-HC's internal DXVA is faster than Nev's DXVA ?

[Aleksoid1978]

P.S. Do I understand correctly that at this point in time MPC-HC's internal DXVA is faster than Nev's DXVA ?

I don't know. Not measured the rate of - for me it does not matter.

[nevcairiel]

Its probably faster on AMD/ATI because it doesn't copy the frames back to the CPU, however it also only works with EVR. :)

btw, the green screen issue doesn't happen with LAV, or does it? :)

[Mercury_22]

Its probably faster on AMD/ATI because it doesn't copy the frames back to the CPU, however it also only works with EVR. :)

btw, the green screen issue doesn't happen with LAV, or does it? :)
No it doesn't ;)
With LAV the same ~1sec it's black
It's the beginning of (any ? VC1i ) file that is black with LAV and green with MPC-HC

[Aleksoid1978]

No it doesn't ;)
With LAV the same ~1sec it's black
It's the beginning of (any ? VC1i ) file that is black with LAV and green with MPC-HC

I think - we have green screen at begin only on Ati, on my GTX 460 no green, ~1sec it's black at you sample.

[Mercury_22]

I think - we have green screen at begin only on Ati, on my GTX 460 no green, ~1sec it's black at you sample.

Quite possible since Snowknight has a Radeon 6870

P.S. But it's still a MPC-HC decoder bug since with lav there's no green screen

EDIT IIRC you've fixed something similar for MPC-HC's h264(i) on ATI no?

[dbcooper]

It's really just about distribution, not everyone goes looking for nightlies or betas as mentioned by Hera.



Yes I do, which is why I mentioned it. MPC-HC isn't made for developers only, it's actually known as one of the best functioning most compatible players out there.
It may not be the flashiest thing about but it gets the job done and could really use a more active approach in new "stable" releases.



My thoughts exactly, egur's development in ffdshow actually made it to the front page on many news sites as an example and no doubt brought about more exposure. I think we can all agree that this is a good thing and it should be desired.



An excellent idea xxl, anything to invigorate the life of these two products would be of great benefit to the community.

While I'm on the topic of improvements, can a nice developer please finally integrate the BE mod and make make an option to revert to the original theme?, I think everyone generally agrees it's a better UI.
We already have a few developers making BE versions, It's about time it got added to MPC officially and should be in the "stable" release.

IF it was integrated the playlist would have to match in color, also there's a bug with it not disappearing in fullscreen that been around since forever.

If there was to be a consolidated effort for a new release I believe it would be best if the version was updated to 2.0, It's about time to ditch the current legarthic version numbering for stable releases.
Again, this is to help stimulate MPC development and overall awareness.

Removing the majority or all of the internal filters which has been discussed and integrating LAV would be a good idea for 2.0 also as that's made quite some headway and isn't far off from primetime.

Further to this post, contributing to the following discussion by the mozilla Firefox devs, on whether to consider doing color space conversions and color management on the GPU, might bring some nice attention to the MPC-HC project.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.platform/9JZhTxGlG8k/8s538TGvF8cJ

[Aleksoid1978]

Quite possible since Snowknight has a Radeon 6870

P.S. But it's still a MPC-HC decoder bug since with lav there's no green screen

EDIT IIRC you've fixed something similar for MPC-HC's h264(i) on ATI no?

I don't have Ati ... sorry.

[betaking]

To:Mercury_22, you must know If ATI's drivers DXVA decoder on the case of a problem than the NVIDIA or INTEL's even more!

[Aleksoid1978]

Quite possible since Snowknight has a Radeon 6870

P.S. But it's still a MPC-HC decoder bug since with lav there's no green screen

EDIT IIRC you've fixed something similar for MPC-HC's h264(i) on ATI no?

Try this - http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-hc_vc_test_2.7z

[Mercury_22]

Try this - http://aleksoid.tosei.ru/Test/mpc-hc_vc_test_2.7z

No change

[aufkrawall]

There's a bug in some of the latest versions, for some videos the FPS are more than doubled, e.g. with Theora Big Buck Bunny.

Doesn't happen with videos that are decoded with DXVA, it seems.

Edit: Another issue: It can't play 5.1 Vorbis audio.
Download a legal sample here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2o3ccy1qnyyfddk